City Council - Regular Meeting

GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. IT'S A BIG DEAL. SO WE'LL BE GETTING TO THAT SO WE'LL BE GETTING TO THAT IN JUST A MOMENT. IN JUST A MOMENT. THIS MEETING IS BEING RECORDED THIS MEETING IS BEING RECORDED BY TRU LENS COMMUNITY MEDIA. BY TRU LENS COMMUNITY MEDIA. IT'S ALSO BROADCAST LIVE AND IT'S ALSO BROADCAST LIVE AND IT'S REPLAYED ON CABLE CHANNEL 799. REPLAYED ON CABLE CHANNEL 799. YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE MEETING ON YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE MEETING ON THE CITY OF WOODBURY'S YOUTUBE THE CITY OF WOODBURY'S YOUTUBE CHANNEL. PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE TAKEN EITHER BEFORE THE MEETING, SOMETIMES WE HAVE THEM DURING. I'VE GOT A COUPLE GREEN SHEETS FOR PEOPLE, SO I'VE GOT THAT. IF ANYONE ELSE NEEDS TO SPEAK, YOU DO NEED TO FILL OUT A GREEN SHEET. AND WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, WHICH WE ALWAYS DO, BUT I HAVE A, YOU HAVE TO INDULGE ME FOR A MINUTE, BECAUSE I HAVE A PREAMBLE TO THIS TODAY. And then in addition, where's our Boy Scouts? I see there's a troop here. Okay, didn't know you were coming, so we don't have free giveaways for you, but would love to invite you up to lead the Pledge of Allegiance as soon as I share something else. Many of us were involved in celebrating our wonderful whatever, quarter millennia. And what's the other one? Jen and I can never remember what it's called. The bisiquitin.

Semi-quincess. Semi-quincess.

The 250.

I know.

It's a big deal. And there is a lot of great celebrations that have happened in the last week, of course, because of the July 4th. But we should be celebrating this all year. This is a big deal to be celebrating our country's 250th anniversary or birthday. And with that, we say the Pledge of Allegiance every time. And sometimes we just say it. We've been saying it our whole life. We just spit it out. We don't think about it. So I just want to take a moment and provide a few meetings of it before we actually stand and do it. So as we hear the words, we say the word I. It means me, an individual, a committee of one. Pledge means to dedicate all of my worldly goods to give without self-pity. Allegiance is my love and my devotion. To the flag, our standard, the old glory, is a symbol of freedom. Wherever she waves, there is respect because of your loyalty has given her a dignity that shouts, freedom is everyone's job. Of the United States, that means we have all come together. States. individual communities that have united into 50 great states, 50 individual communities with pride and dignity and purpose, all divided with imaginary boundaries, yet united to a common purpose and a love for the country of America and to the republic, a republic which is a sovereign state in which power is invested in representatives chosen by the people to govern. And the government is the people, and it is from the people to the leaders, not from the leaders to the people. for which it stands, one nation under God, meaning so blessed by God, indivisible, incapable of being divided, with liberty, which is freedom, the right of power to live one's own life without fears, threats, or any sort of retaliation, and justice, the principle and qualities of dealing fairly with others. Oops. For all, for all that means it's as much your country as it's mine. SO WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THOSE SCOUTS UP. WE'LL STAND AND DO THE PLEDGE. SCOUTS, I'D LIKE TO DO IT A LITTLE SLOWLY SO WE CAN EACH APPRECIATE AND UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF EACH WORD THAT WE SAY. THIS IS SCOUT TROOP 9071 FROM GROVE, UNITED METHODISTS.

HI, GUYS. OKAY, YOU ALL LOOK FAMILIAR. I'VE MET WITH YOU ALL BEFORE.

HI. NOT WITH MANY OF YOU. OKAY, THE FLAG IS HERE. So let's begin.

Who's ready? All right, scouts and everybody. Please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge.

Okay, and now, Angela, would you please do the roll call? Council Member Morris.

Here.

Council Member Santini.

Here. Council Member Wilson. Here. Council Member Stafford. Here. Mayor Burt.

Here. We are all here tonight, so we're able to conduct tonight's business. So, again, special order business tonight is the swearing in of new police officer Matthew Berg. I'd like to invite our public safety leadership to come up and share a little bit more about that.

Thank you mayor Burton City Council members is an exciting night for the department. It's also exciting night for the community. I we're going to be swearing in a new police officer along with conducting a badge pinning. So our mission at Woodbury Public Safety is to serve all people with compassion and courage. What makes that possible is hiring people that share in our values of integrity, trust, respect, and excellence. People who have a servant's heart, who understand that these professions exist to serve others and that they will often encounter people on their worst day and work to make them better. As mentioned, tonight we'll be conducting a badge pinning, a little bit about our badge. Police badges are the most recognizable symbol of a police officer. They represent pride, honor, integrity, service, and self-sacrifice. They represent a commitment to our mission and to our values. So police badges have a unique number engraved upon them. This number signifies each officer's place in the history of our organization. This number will never be duplicated in the future. So tonight we're going to be swearing in Officer Matthew Berg. A little bit about Matthew. He graduated from Prior Lake High School. Before joining the city of Woodbury, he worked as a paramedic with Hennepin EMS and as an EMT with mHealth Fairview. He earned his law degree at Rasmussen University. He also served 10 years in the United States Army as an airborne infantryman, completing four deployments during his military career. So we also thank him for his service to our country. Matthew has served as a police cadet with the City of Woodbury since July of 2024. After the oath for the badge pinning, we're gonna be calling up his wife, Madeline, and his daughter, Mason, to help with the badge pinning. So to Matthew, I would say know that our department supports you, our city administration, and our city council supports you, and most importantly, the community supports you, and that this community support is not given, but earned on every interaction, every day. So next we're gonna call up Matthew Berg for the oath, and I'll turn it over to Mayor Berg for the swearing in. Thank you.

Hi, Matthew. Okay, please raise your right hand and repeat after me. I. I. State your name.

Matthew Byrd.

Do solemnly swear under oath.

Do solemnly swear under oath.

That I will support the Constitution of the United States.

That I will support the Constitution of the United States.

And of the State of Minnesota.

And of the State of Minnesota.

And faithfully discharge the duties.

And faithfully discharge the duties.

Of the Office of Police Officer.

Of the Office of Police Officer.

In the City of Woodbury.

In the City of Woodbury.

In the County of Washington. And the state of Minnesota.

And the state of Minnesota.

To the best of my judgment and ability.

To the best of my judgment and ability.

So help me God.

So help me God.

Fantastic, and the family? Where's your family? Come up to do the pitting. Congratulations. Council members, I'll have you go back up here. We'll have you for the picture. Come and shake the hand, and then we'll stand here for the picture. And then Officer Berg. You can come here if you'd like to bring your family back up with your wife, your daughter, and anybody, Jason, if you would like to come and join as well for a couple of pictures.

Are we gonna scooch in? Yes. Act like we like each other?

My guys may be bright and be seen. I'm usually behind the door.

Put Donna in front of the logo. She won't cover it.

Very nice, Macy. Smile big. Oh, that's a good smile. Macy. Okay, one more over here, too. One, two, three. Big smiles, Mace, big smiles. Perfect. Perfect.

Welcome aboard, Matthew.

Are you related? I'm a close family friend.

You know, we're always recruiting in Woodbury.

That's why I'm here. I am a Woodbury resident. So I'm expecting all these fine gentlemen and females to come to my house when I need it. Hopefully I don't. Fantastic.

Well, it's normally at this point when they all leave to go have their celebration, but we have another very important recognition to give tonight. So with that, I would like to invite up for this presentation. This is a public safety acknowledgement presented by the Oak Park Heights Chief of Police, Steve Hansen. Steve, welcome. We recruit here, too, for chiefs.

I only have a couple years left. Okay. Thank you, Mayor. Good evening, Mayor and Council. Thank you for this opportunity to come down here tonight and acknowledge three members of your public safety that so absolutely deserve it. I want to give a little bit of a background on the event, if I could, before we read the letter. On May 21st, we had a serious call on our bridge the St. Croix Cross Injury, a person in crisis. Responders got there, immediately recognized that we got situation we need a lot more help with. In fact, seven agencies sent their officers. So it was a big, big event. Person in crisis with a language barrier as well. Typically in those events, we contact crisis negotiations team that's affiliated with our SWAT team. And that's how we got here today with three of your best members from the public safety showed up and dropped what they were doing. And we had a very successful resolution on that. And with that, just some of that context of how that evolves. So what I'd like to do is read the letter and then have all three members later come up here and present it to them. On behalf of the city of Oak Park Heights and the Oak Park Heights Police Department, I'm writing to formally extend our deepest appreciation and commend you for your superior performance on May 21st. On that day, you responded to a critical incident involving a suicidal individual in severe crisis on the St. Croix Crossings Bridge. Facing a highly tense and dangerous situation, you deployed exceptional de-escalation skills and acted with immense compassion. Working seamlessly as the team with our responding officers, your calm demeanor and active listening and tactical communication were instrumental in the outcome. Thanks to your efforts, the male individual was successfully negotiated back over the railing and transitioned into a safe environment to receive the help he needed. Your actions that day directly saved a human life and prevented a tragedy. Your professionalism exemplifies the highest standards of law enforcement and highlights the vital importance of interagency teamwork during critical incidents. In recognition of your outstanding service and dedication to life safety and exceptional crisis intervention, you are hereby awarded this letter of excellence and appreciation. Along with this letter, please accept the Chief's coin as a token of enduring gratitude. Thank you for your bravery, and your skills, and your unwavering, protecting the communities. Thank you, appreciate it.

And are you naming the individuals, or would you like me to do so? I'd be more than happy to name them. You have them? Sure. Yes, please, please, because they'll come forward too.

So the three members of public safety is Detective Kim Richardson, and I'll have them come up now, if that's okay. Detective Kim Richardson. Detective Kaitlyn Jarwowski. And I just wanna side note, this is the second event that Kaitlyn's been to on our bridge back in 2021. She also had another successful crisis negotiations on there too. So this is her number two event. And CSO Stephanie Sosa. And with that, if I could have Director Pozzol swing up here, that'd be great, and get the letters. And we have obviously submitted a formal letter to Chief Pozzol to review for your own awards committee at a later date as well, if appropriate. But this is our appreciation from Oak Park Heights and Washington County as a whole too, I think. So well done, well done, very well done.

I would also just like to add, it was a, I'm sure a very emotional, it's a heart wrenching situation that you all went through. There was a picture that was there and just to see the compassion from each of you in handling that situation, it really speaks to the work that is done with our public safety team to serve with compassion and courage. So thank you on behalf of the City of Woodbury for being willing to go and help in this crisis situation. you all want to do a photo. Yeah, so why don't we move out of the way, because we weren't really instrumental in any of this.

They were, they need to be honored on their own without us.

All right, one, two, one, two, three. Perfect. Just added to that, our officers and everyone on our public safety team does great work every single day to keep our community safe. Thank you. On behalf of city council, we just had a nice discussion downstairs in workshop about the amazing improvements, changes, things that have occurred in public safety over the last several years. And we're so really blessed and fortunate to have you here in the city of Woodbury protecting our community. So thank you. And with that, you all get to leave and go have your little party that you do. Thank you. You always have to wait until the doors close because they make noise. Okay, now we'll move on to other items on our agenda tonight. I have one green sheet for the open forum tonight. This is for Justin Rappella. You've been here before. You know the routine, so I don't think I need to speak to it. I don't have any other green sheets, so... You know, we do a three minute time where you get your red, yellow, green, green, actually in opposite order, green, yellow, red. If you'd like to come forward to the podium, state your name and your city of residence.

My name is Justin Ropella and I am a resident of Woodbury. Hi, mayor and council members. I'm here to ask again for you to place the proposed resolution regarding municipal property and immigration enforcement activity on an upcoming agenda for a vote. At the last open forum, it was suggested that our community survey results demonstrate a lack of interest or need for this topic. I would remind the council that those surveys were completed between January 7th and February 23rd. Many of those surveys were completed prior to the surge in federal activity here, and all of them were completed before the council was presented with this proposed resolution. I was one of the respondents of that survey, and I can assure you that my answers today regarding leadership and governance would be different than they were in January. It has also been stated that this topic is outside of your jurisdiction. You're not being asked to set federal immigration policy or to solve federal issues. We are asking you to ensure that city owned property parks and community centers remain focused on their intended public use rather than serving as a staging grounds for federal operations. It's not about overstepping. It's just about local governance being intelligently preventative rather than reactive. We don't wait for a child to get tetanus before we address things that need to be fixed in our parks, right? We shouldn't wait for another abuse of federal power before we establish clear guidelines for our municipal property. I want to be clear that people are engaging with our state and federal representatives outside of this room. We appreciate the levers that they hold and we're working with them too, but I'm here because this council holds the keys to its own house. Zoning and facility use agreements are not federal concerns, they're yours. Our legislators haven't been pushing this work off onto us. They've encouraged us to use our voice at every level of government, including theirs, and that's what we're doing. So this issue is often characterized as some sort of partisan circus, right? But it doesn't really matter what party you belong to. You should be able to rely on your city to take actions within its control to prevent abuses of power on their property. There have been comments about how this is a waste of time and a distraction as well. And to that, I say if this is a waste of time, then put the resolution to a vote, cast your vote, and be done with it. The reasons continues to consume everyone's time is because the council hasn't acted. So you don't need to agree with it. I understand that, but you do have a responsibility to actually meaningfully address it. So avoiding a vote is not a strategy. It's an avoidance of your responsibility and Woodbury residents deserve a council that leads with conviction rather than one that remains silent and hopes that this issue will just go away. So please stop the delay, put it on an upcoming agenda for a formal recorded vote. Thank you.

I would now like to invite up, I'm gonna have a hard time with the name, so Elam, Elam? Hi, okay, now, I think you're new to this, so now I do have to give the little thing, in case you haven't done this before. I'm familiar, thank you. You know the three minutes, you know the red, yellow, green?

I have read your rules, thank you.

Okay, perfect, thank you. I don't need to repeat them, but welcome.

Yeah, my name is Ilamurugu Vajapuri. Please call me Ilam. No pronouns, just call me Ilam, thank you. I'm a resident of Princeton, Texas, and I'm visiting my friend out here. I just wanted to play... Thank you for the trail system that is there. Online system is very good. I was able to identify all the... I must have done some 15 miles of trail system here. Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Thank you.

OKAY, WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA. ALL ITEMS LISTED UNDER THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE CONSIDERED TO BE ROUTINED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, WILL BE ENACTED BY ONE MOTION AND AN AFFIRMED VOTE BY ROLL CALL OF THE MAJORITY OF THE MEMBERS PRESENT. THERE WILL BE NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OF THESE ITEMS UNLESS A COUNCIL MEMBER OR A CITIZEN SO REQUESTS. IN WHICH EVENT, THE ITEMS WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND CONSIDERED A SEPARATE SUBJECT OF DISCUSSION BY THE COUNCIL. SO WITH THAT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE HAVE ITEMS 6A THROUGH 6H, IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO PUT FOR Oh, my mic is on. Sorry, yes, I mean, you can, go ahead, if you want to poll. Does anyone want to poll?

Yes, I do. Oh, okay, please. Yes, I do. Okay, feel free to jump in and poll. Okay, thank you. I just have one question, but we don't have any engineer here, so it must not be true. So 6G, appointing of election judges, I will abstain from that.

Okay, anything else from anybody? Hearing none, would somebody like to put forth a motion now?

I'll make a motion to approve consent agenda item 6A through 6H. With the exception of G. With the exception of item 6G. I'll second.

Motion is second. Any further discussion? Hearing none, roll call please.

Councilmember Santini. Aye. Councilmember Wilson. Aye. Councilmember Stafford. Aye. Councilmember Morris. Aye. Mayor Burt.

Aye. Those items passed. Does someone want to put

Forward 6G. I'll move to adopt Resolution 26-82, a resolution appointing election judges for the August 11th, 2026 statewide primary. Second.

Motion to second. Any further discussion? I'll just add thank you, Councilmember Wilson, for serving as an election judge, and that's why you're abstaining from the vote. Any other comments? Hearing none, roll call, please.

Councilmember Wilson. Abstain. Councilmember Stafford. Aye. Councilmember Morris. Aye. Council Member Santini? Aye. Mayor Burt?

Aye. All right. All those items pass. When is the primary?

August 11th. August 11th. Early voting has started.

Okay. Fantastic. All right. We'll now move on to our public hearing tonight. And this is a public hearing regarding considering the approval of Bailey West Comprehensive Plan Amendment rezoning preliminary and final plat. PART OF THAT, LET ME JUST SHARE, BECAUSE I DO HAVE SEVERAL GREEN SHEETS, SO LET ME JUST SHARE THE PROCESS DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION. IN ORDER TO ALLOW A FULL AIRING OF ALL SPEAKER COMMENTS, INDIVIDUAL REMARKS MAY NOT EXCEED TEN MINUTES EACH. IF A SPEAKER DETERMINES THAT MORE TIME IS NECESSARY, THEY CAN MAKE A REQUEST. ALL RIGHT, TOO LATE. WELL, IF YOU NEED ONE, LET ME KNOW, BUT USUALLY YOU HAVE TO DO THAT IN ADVANCE, SO I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T READ ALL THAT. PLEASE... Come up to the microphone, state your name and your city of residence, and make your remarks. We just ask that remarks should be limited to the subject at hand. If there's several people speaking about one thing, it helps to coordinate or just come up and say, I agree with the guy before. We don't have to elongate the whole conversation. Again, you're allowed to say what you want in your 10 minutes, but just being respectful of time. We would ask that those in attendance at the hearing refrain from any applause or other expressions of emotion, whether in favor of or opposition to any particular application or argument. Inappropriate language, outbursts, or criticisms aimed at individuals or groups are not allowed. I always have to share that really for the most part everyone has come has been very respectful, so thank you for that. Okay, with that, the hearing is now open, and I turn this over to Eric Searles, who's gonna share more about this particular issue.

Thank you, Mayor and members of council. Bailey Nurseries has submitted a development application for their property located to the north of Bailey Road and west of New Life Church and Academy. The application is proposing to plot property to facilitate a future mixed-use commercial and residential development which includes retail, public, semi-public uses for New Life Academy. A portion of the project is identified as light industrial and some multifamily uses on approximately 185 acres. The Bailey property is not just in Woodbury. It is also the Bailey's hold property, totaling about 300 acres spread across Maplewood, Newport, and of course, Woodbury. the cities have, throughout this development process, have worked collaboratively through the project development to review things such as site access, stormwater management, and project timing. As council is well aware at their last council meeting, I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT ONE OF THE MORE IMPORTANT ITEMS THAT COUNCIL DID PROVIDE CLARITY ON AND THAT IS THE FINAL BULLET WHICH IS THE NEED TO REVIEW THE LOCATION AND ALTERNATIVE ALIGNMENTS FOR CENTURY AVENUE CONNECTION AS PART OF THE 2050 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT DIALOGUE AS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN AND THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IDENTIFY THAT IN FRONT OF YOU THIS EVENING AS WELL AS THE FINAL MASTER PLAN. SO THAT WILL BE THE INTENTION OF THE CITY TO LOOK AT THAT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH RAMSEY COUNTY, THE CITY OF NEWPORT AND WASHINGTON COUNTY. IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL THIS EVENING IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THAT AMENDMENT IS NECESSITATED BY THE ACQUISITION OF APPROXIMATELY 30 ACRES OF LAND BY NEW LIFE ACADEMY. THE GRAPHIC ON THE SCREEN SHOWS ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE THE EXISTING LAND USE. ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE IS THE PROPOSED LAND USE. AND HISTORICALLY THE CITY HAS USED ONE OF TWO FINDINGS OF FACT TO A PROPERTY, A CERTAIN WAY WITHIN A PROPERTY, A CERTAIN WAY WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OR THE TIMES AND CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED TIMES AND CONDITIONS HAVE CHANGED TO WARRANT A CHANGE IN THE PLAN. TO WARRANT A CHANGE IN THE PLAN. IN THIS CASE, STAFF RECOMMENDS IN THIS CASE, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT TIMES AND CONDITIONS HAVE THE UNANTICIPATED PURSUIT AND ULTIMATE ACQUISITION BY NEW LIFE ACADEMY OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY THAT WAS NOT CONTEMPLATED AS PART OF THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND AS YOU'LL SEE ON THE GRAPHIC, REALLY THE GREEN AREA IS JUST REDISTRIBUTED AROUND THE PUBLIC SEMI-PUBLIC PORTION. SO THE INTENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN STAFF'S OPINION REMAINS AND THIS IS GENERALLY A NEGLIGIBLE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGE. WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHANGE COMES A MODIFICATION OF ZONING. AND SO A REZONING APPLICATION IS ALSO IN FRONT OF COUNCIL THIS EVENING. CURRENTLY THE PLAN IS THE PROPERTY IS ALL ZONED BUSINESS CAMPUS DISTRICT AND WITH THE CHANGE TO THE MIXED USE LAND USE, IT IS APPROPRIATE TO ADDRESS THE ZONING AS WELL. On the south side, B3 is our planned shopping center district. That is the majority of our retail area within the community. And the R4, which would necessitate the ability for the residential uses that are contemplated within the master plan, but also the future use of New Life Academy for recreation purposes on their holdings. You will note that the area on the north side is currently not being proposed to be changed for business campus. That was contemplated. PROVIDE A LARGER PART OF THE PROVIDE A LARGER PART OF THE PLAN AS PART OF THE PLAN AS PART OF THE PLAN AS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN AS THAT MASTER PLAN AS THAT MASTER PLAN AS THAT FINAL LAND USE WILL OCCUR FINAL LAND USE WILL OCCUR FINAL LAND USE WILL OCCUR AS PART OF THE 2050 COMPREHENSIVE AS PART OF THE 2050 COMPREHENSIVE AS PART OF THE 2050 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS AND ULTIMATELY PLAN PROCESS AND ULTIMATELY PLAN PROCESS AND ULTIMATELY THOSE REZONING ACTIVITIES THOSE REZONING ACTIVITIES THOSE REZONING ACTIVITIES WOULD TAKE PLACE IN THE FUTURE WOULD TAKE PLACE IN THE FUTURE A PRELIMINARY PLAT IS IN FRONT OF COUNCIL THIS EVENING, INCLUDING ONE PLATTED LOT OF RECORD AND A NUMBER OF OUTLOTS. THOSE FUTURE OUTLOTS WILL BE PLATTED IN THE FUTURE AS MORE INFORMATION ON THE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS ARE KNOWN. SO THERE WILL BE FUTURE REVIEW IN THE FUTURE, NOT ONLY ON THE PLAT SIDE, BUT ALSO ON THE LIKELY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, SITE AND BUILDING PLANS AT THAT OPPORTUNITY. The Planning Commission and City Council will have the opportunity to look at architecture, landscaping, screening and buffering, and also things like site flow and parking and setbacks. Those are not in front of Council this evening. Those will come forward as more information is known on the development applications. As I referenced in some of my earlier comments, one of the key items within the master plan was evaluating the construction of Century Avenue. Century Avenue is proposed to be constructed as part of the application in front of you this evening, but only to the area shown on the screen in the dashed box. So there is a fairly large gap between the termination of WHAT WE ARE CALLING PHASE ONE OF CENTURY AVENUE AND THE OF CENTURY AVENUE AND THE ULTIMATE CONNECTION POINT THAT ULTIMATE CONNECTION POINT THAT WILL GIVE AMPLE OPPORTUNITY FOR WILL GIVE AMPLE OPPORTUNITY FOR FUTURE REVIEW OF THE DESIGN FUTURE REVIEW OF THE DESIGN ALTERNATIVE OF LOCATIONS AND ALTERNATIVE OF LOCATIONS AND OVERALL NEED FOR THAT CONNECTION OVERALL NEED FOR THAT CONNECTION TO OCCUR AS PART OF THE 2050 Consistent with the master plan, there are three areas of stormwater management, including the large regional basin on the left-hand side of the screen. That is a regional stormwater management. From an efficiency standpoint, this is a way for the city to be very efficient with the stormwater being in one larger area versus multiple ponds spread out to the development site. It also provides an interesting opportunity to provide trails around that area and an open space feel to enhance the overall area. From an access management standpoint, there are a number of access points. What's on the screen is the major access points, and the main access point for this development is a future signalized intersection onto Bailey Road. You'll also identify another full access point at access point A. That's located within the city of Newport. It's important to establish for the record the connection to Chamberlain Road. There was a number of conversations at the neighborhood meeting that there were concerns raised about that becoming a through traffic movement. And the record is clear to establish that as Outlot D develops, there will be very careful deliberation to ensure that that's connectivity, but not designed to move traffic through the site. So connecting the two areas, not a travel way. IMPROVEMENT IN THE PROCESS OF CHANGING THE TRAVEL PATTERNS. OF CHANGING THE TRAVEL PATTERNS. AND AGAIN, NOT TO BE REDUNDANT, AND AGAIN, NOT TO BE REDUNDANT, BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE TO ESTABLISH AT EVERY TURN THE TO ESTABLISH AT EVERY TURN THE INTENT THAT WAS CLEARLY INTENT THAT WAS CLEARLY ESTABLISHED AS PART OF THE MASTER ESTABLISHED AS PART OF THE MASTER PLAN AS WELL AS PART OF THE PLANNING PLAN AS WELL AS PART OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION REVIEW RELATED TO COMMISSION REVIEW RELATED TO ACCESS POINT E WHERE IT IS to the connection, the alignment, the design will be reviewed for Century Avenue as part of the 2050 plan. And again, that will be done in partnership with the other jurisdictions, Ramsey County, Washington County, and the City of Newport. THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID REVIEW THIS APPLICATION REVIEW THIS APPLICATION AT THEIR JUNE 29, 2026 AT THEIR JUNE 29, 2026 MEETING, AND AT THAT TIME MEETING, AND AT THAT TIME THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL. THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL. JAKE GUZIK IS HERE FROM THE JAKE GUZIK IS HERE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH A PLANNING COMMISSION WITH A LIAISON REPORT. LIAISON REPORT.

WELCOME, COMMISSIONER.

Thank you for having me. Good evening, Mayor and Council. Jake was in the Planning Commission. We had a few public comments at Planning Commission, mostly discussing that access E, that's Northern Century Avenue connection. We discussed how our recommendation would be to keep that clear that it's not set in stone right now, that it's still up for investigation. We also discussed some of the audit, Eric highlighted the items well, but some of the outlots and how they could develop, what uses would be on them. Also discuss some of the potential of Washington County to take over Century Avenue, what standards are applied there, and some discussion around the pedestrian access and making sure that there are safe crossings and AD accessibility.

Great. Any questions for our commissioner? Okay. Thank you.

Thank you.

Are you finished with your part?

I am finished. The applicant is on hand for any questions as well, Mayor.

Okay, that's great. Well, the hearing is still open, so I do have several green sheets. Just, can you go back to one of the maps, like this one? Again, I know we've got a lot of people that probably want to comment on this. My guess is, after our meeting last time we had, there's several people talking about that extension of Century Avenue, and so just for ultimate clarification, where we see the letter D on this map, just below that is the beginning of a TURN, IT'S MAYBE KIND OF LOOKING LIKE A ROUND ABOUT, WE DON'T KNOW, BUT THE POINT IS, THE ROAD WILL NOT, AS PART OF THIS AGREEMENT, OR THIS PROPOSAL THAT WE'VE GOT BEFORE US NOW, THE ROAD TERMINATES THERE AND TURNS TO THE EAST. IT DOES NOT GO NORTH, AND AGAIN, JUST TO CLARIFY THAT FURTHER DISCUSSION IS GOING TO HAPPEN AT A LATER TIME RELATED TO THE 2050 PLAN AND INVOLVING THE OTHER COUNTIES, OR THE OTHER COUNTY, WHICH IS WASHINGTON. SO, ERIC, JUST ONE MORE TIME, with this map, would you just highlight again and stress what is happening with this road?

Not happening.

Not happening. Well, it is happening because it's not built yet, but it's going to stop. Yeah.

CENTURY AVENUE IS IDENTIFIED CENTURY AVENUE IS IDENTIFIED TO BE CONSTRUCTED TO BE CONSTRUCTED TO BE CONSTRUCTED TO SERVE THE RETAIL AREA, TO SERVE THE RETAIL AREA, TO SERVE THE RETAIL AREA, THE FUTURE MULTIFAMILY AREA, THE FUTURE MULTIFAMILY AREA, THE FUTURE MULTIFAMILY AREA, AND A CONNECTION ACCESS POINT AND A CONNECTION ACCESS POINT AND A CONNECTION ACCESS POINT INTO NEW LIFE ACADEMY. INTO NEW LIFE ACADEMY. INTO NEW LIFE ACADEMY. IT IS IDENTIFIED TO TERMINATE IT IS IDENTIFIED TO TERMINATE IT IS IDENTIFIED TO TERMINATE AT THE LOCATION THAT I'M AT THE LOC FURTHER EXTENSION OF THE ROAD THROUGH ACCESS POINT E IN ANY ALIGNMENT WOULD BE REVIEWED THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT YOU IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE 2050 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, MORE SPECIFICALLY THROUGH THE TRANSPORTATION SECTION IN PARTNERSHIP WITH RAMSEY AND WASHINGTON COUNTY. PERFECT, OKAY, GREAT, THANK YOU.

SO IT IS NOT IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT. IT IS NOT IN FRONT OF US TONIGHT, OKAY.

WITH THAT, I HAVE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX, SIX SHEETS, AND I'M JUST GOING TO START IN ORDER.

WE DO TIME STAMPS ON THESE NOW, SO... MAYOR BURT, IF I JUST MAY INTERRUPT, WE DO HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH WE CAN JUST READ AFTER ALL THOSE ARE DONE, TOO.

I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT. OKAY, DON'T LET ME FORGET. KEN SABOTA. WELCOME, AND AGAIN, JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR CITY OF RESIDENCE, AND THEN SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS. THANK YOU.

My name is Ken Sabota, I'm a Maplewood resident on Century Avenue. If I may get one of these into each of your hands, it's just a little one-page supplement.

Come around. Kind of go along with what I'm gonna talk about.

What I think is important to talk about is something, and first of all, thank you for the consideration from the June meeting. I was not able to be at that one, but I watched it afterwards. And I think you guys are taking a good approach here and listening to the people about our concerns of Century Avenue and how that road is constructed today and really not being able to handle more traffic and the dangers of it. So what I put together here that you have in front of you is kind of one of those dangers. Drivers really like to go fast through the curves. I know that. I used to be a motorcycle rider. I never broke the speed limit, for the record. And what happens is they come down Century Avenue from the north, and the lake presents itself on the left. And they look to the left, oh, look at the beautiful lake. And what you see in front of you on here is what happens when they look to the left and the Carver's further to the right into the yard of 1190 Century Avenue. These are our mailboxes that are laying here on the street. This is on a Sunday morning, by the way. This is not a drunk driver on a Saturday night, unless it was a carryover, I don't know. But they took out the mailbox posts and kept right on going up the hill. So the bumper is on the right here, left his bumper behind in the whole bit. So ironically, us neighbors got out there and repaired it and had the mailboxes up again within about an hour. And the reason we were able to do that is because the prior year, somebody took them out. It was a young girl that was driving and she was on her phone looking for the beach, says that she was looking for the map of how to get there. But, and her father came when it occurred. She stopped and we talked to her and she was in tears and all. And her father came and said, I will replace the mailbox post for you guys while we got it done before he brought the post. So we had a post left over to take care of it a year later. So why am I saying this to you guys? I just want you to think about a couple of things that may not show up on a traffic study. And that's, think about if that mailbox post was a pedestrian walking along the side of the road, what that would have been. Or what if going the other direction primarily, it would have been someone drifting over into the oncoming lane of traffic and dealing with a head-on collision. It's just a big distraction. It's a beautiful lake, but it's a distraction for drivers going through a corner and they veer off the road quite often, so. I just want you guys to consider that as you move forward. I appreciate the consideration of what's going to happen with the 2050 plan, and I just wanted to bring this forward to you as another point of consideration that may not show up on a traffic study. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you very much. Next I have Jeff Miner.

Good evening, Mayor and Council. Thank you for giving me the opportunity tonight to address you. And what I want to speak about is my concerns relating to the northwest corner of the project, Area E. Maybe I should say my name is Jeff Miner, and I live at 1315 Century Avenue South. My residence is directly across from the Carver Lake Park entrance. I've lived there for about 40 years, so even before Carver Lake Park came to be.

And can I just clarify, is that in Maplewood or is that in?

I'm in Maplewood.

You're in Maplewood. Okay, thank you.

Unfortunately, in my view, the powers that be, those that have most control over planning for the Bailey development are representing Woodbury and Washington County. Very little of the Bailey development will actually be on Maplewood or Ramsey County property, so it makes me feel somewhat like an outsider. However, it is important for my neighborhood, the city of Maplewood and Ramsey County, to be included in the planning before decisions are made by Woodbury, because your decisions will have a large and direct impact on us. Simply put, Century Avenue South along the stretch between Carver Avenue and Courtly Road is not suited even for existing traffic loads. I will briefly review the problems. There are many blind curves along this section of Century Avenue. Many of the residential driveways are at a steep grade, making entry and exits hazardous to both the residents and through traffic. There are either no shoulders or narrow road shoulders on either side of the road. In multiple places, if your vehicle leaves the road, it ends up down a steep grade and in the woods or in the marsh. There are hills that block line of sight and one monster hill that can't be navigated by vehicles in winter weather. Pedestrian and bike access does not exist. My spouse Karen and I have had personal firsthand experiences with these hazards. On one occasion, a neighbor to our north was unable to get all the way into his driveway due to our usual winter snow. He had to block the road and just around a blind curve and on a hill. Even at low speed, Karen had no chance to avoid hitting the car. Fortunately, no one was hurt. Another neighbor on a different day was actually hit near his mailbox located just around a blind curve. He was nearly killed and required extended hospitalization. On many winter occasions, we have not been able to get up the hill to our driveway because our car couldn't get through the snow or because the road was plugged up by other stuck vehicles. And then there are vehicles trying to drive in reverse to get back down the hill they could not climb. Besides general traffic on Century Avenue South, Carver Lake Park draws a lot of additional traffic. I encourage Woodbury to plan for making another connection to the Carver Lake parking lot so vehicles can enter from the east side. The Woodbury side of the park has multiple paved bike and pedestrian routes into the park from the Woodbury neighborhood. There isn't any similar infrastructure along Century or along the park entrance road inside the park. So for people who risk getting to the park via Century Avenue by bike or foot, they are still not in a safe place when they get to the park entrance because they need to continue using the park driving lanes with more blind curves, hills, and with no shoulder at all for a distance of almost one-half mile inside the park to reach the park grounds. To get there, you need to keep your head on a swivel. When the Woodbury residents want to take a vehicle into the park, they all need to come around to the Century Avenue side in order to access the entrance from the east. From the west, I should say. Seems all traffic is getting funneled through our neighborhood. So please plan for an entrance from the east side. Lastly, I want to say Woodbury in Washington County has most of the Carver Lake area property. Maplewood and Ramsey County has the Fish Creek Natural Area and Greenway. Altogether, they make a single geographic corridor that is then connected to the Mississippi River Wildlife Corridor. Unfortunately, these undeveloped nature areas and surrounding development projects are being managed by various government authorities. I think all the areas should be developed holistically with strong coordination between city, county, and state agencies, creating an even busier road in the heart of this special scenic nature preserve degrades its unique beauty and creates obstacles for current and future use by people who want to experience the special geology of the extended watershed, all connected seamlessly from Carver Lake Park to the Mississippi River. Woodbury City Council, please support our request to remove references from any existing plans for a future Century Avenue South Road extension that connects through to Bailey Road. The situation has not been sufficiently analyzed to document that direction or intent at this time. I understand that the current plan shows the road dead ending and not going through, but some of the drawings I've seen, and I don't know if it's still the current state, it says future existing extension. And we would like to see that removed to get that mindset out of the picture at this time. In closing, thank you for your time this evening and for your support going forward.

Thank you. I would just like to say from a time management point of view, you nailed that. Exactly at 10 minutes. That's hard to do. Next I have Johnny DeMay.

Mayor and Council, my name is Johnny DeMay and I live at 1211 Century Avenue South in Maplewood. My family is part of the New Life Academy community and is excited for their ability to expand. It's an amazing school and church. I'm, however, here again to voice opposition to extending our portion of Century Avenue South to Bailey Road. See, I got my computer this time, not just notes on the phone. Many of us in the audience have voiced significant safety issues. Tonight, I'd like to dive into some additional points and requests. First, I will remind you that Century Avenue South is an old farm county road that became residential. If you take a look at a map, feel free to pull out your phones. You'll see we got cut off from the main Century Avenue a mile north of us when it turns into Lake Road. That road north of us is a straight shot from White Bear Lake to essentially Carver Lake. The attention I'd like to bring is actually to the south of us in Newport and Cottage Grove. You will see there are more roads named Century Avenue. These are not connected, which leads to much confusion. We don't want our road connected. Why add another segment of Century Avenue that's not connected to the others? So my first request is that you consider a different street name. Second, there's been a lot of publications referencing our road going through. Woodbury and Newports, Planning Documents, Pioneer Press, Business Journal, Finance and Commerce, Cushman, Wakefield, Discover Woodbury, Woodbury Heritage Society, the list goes on. Although these are other parties, we have concerned of developers and the public seeing these plans set in stone. Your current plan is to review our street extension as part of the 2050 plan. So, our question is, how would the 30 of us on Century Avenue South have a say in that? What will the developers, hundreds of new residents, owners, and tenants say? We ask that you put a stop to this now and remove the extension references and imagery. I've contacted Maplewood and Ramsey County many times. Their planners, engineers, county commissioner, even our state senator who was in attendance last city council meeting. There has been little movement and no response to my request to meet with them regarding this. At this point, I'm still hoping to meet with them, but not counting on it. This isn't a problem for you to solve. But I will remind you that several of our neighbors are property taxpayers in Woodbury, and we all pay sales taxes in Woodbury. It's where we shop. What I ask is that you keep us and members of the community engaged in any ongoing planning, and do everything you can to get our city and county to the table. Tying back to our safety concerns, I'd like to bring attention the environmental assessment worksheet, which was reposted to Woodbury's website yesterday per my request. I don't know if you're able to pull it up, Eric, but there's a lot of details in it, specifically at the end of it, Appendix F, pages 212 and 213, it does go into details on our traffic study for the area. So there's a few things that I want to highlight from that before diving into my main point. So this traffic study is using data from six to eight years ago. So that's COVID time periods. It likely doesn't consider the church and schools expansion along with sports fields. You gotta remember there's over 800 current students and many other parishioners. It doesn't consider other new developments in the area. We have East Ridge Heights and Century Ponds, which totals 279 new dwelling units within a couple miles. I also don't think it considers other developments in Woodbury, Bailey Road construction plans, and corresponding detours. So the biggest flaw in the table in that Appendix F is the land use columns. These are severely underestimated from current plans, as it currently shows only 345 dwelling units, 700,000 square feet of business park, 61,000 square feet of retail. For all three cities involved, the total is instead double that. At 869 dwelling units, 985,000 square feet of business park, and 100,000 square feet of retail, including a major gas station. So in total, the traffic state that we have shows half of the current plan's traffic. But let's look at the traffic studies numbers anyway. Of the 4,178 average daily trips for the residential and retail uses on the development, 28% would come from the Century Avenue extension at Carver Avenue. That's 1,170 additional vehicles in front of Rogers House each day. On top of that, 6% of the industrial traffic will go in front of Rogers House again. That's 278 vehicles, probably larger and louder vehicles. In total, that's almost 1,500 additional vehicles past Rogers House each day. Based on the original traffic study being half of the current plan estimates, I project that number to be over 3,000 each day. But how does that compare to our current traffic? We fortunately have public Minnesota DOT traffic data from 2025. Traffic at Roger's home on Carver currently shows 512 vehicles a day. Going from 512 to 3,000 is a 486% increase. What's stopping it from getting to traffic levels like Lake Road or Wood Lane? Remember my story of the county snowplow sliding backwards down our hill along the guardrail? The Maplewood portion of the development is slated in our 2040 plan as mixed use neighborhood. Assuming these kids will be sent to Carver Avenue north of us, I don't want to think of the busloads of them going down and up our dangerous hill. Another interesting note, going back to the traffic data. While traffic at Rogers is 512 daily, traffic at my house is 1,174 vehicles per day. We live right by each other. is at least 662 vehicles going to Carver Lake Park each day. Proving the traffic on our street is disproportionately Woodbury's Carver Lake Park traffic. In summary of this fourth and final point, I know it's been referenced that a new traffic study would be done, but I challenge you to shut this extension down in its entirety. It's not only dangerous, it's a waste of our resources and taxpayer money. Even if I'm half wrong, this extension would destroy our neighborhood and endanger lives. So, Mayor, Council, in closing summary, I'm here to ask you to please rename what you are now showing as a new portion of Century Avenue. Second is to remove any references to the extension of our street from your plans. Third is to keep us engaged and go out of your way to do everything you can to involve Maplewood and Ramsey County. And fourth is to look at the numbers and do not consider the extension any further. There's no more research needed. We don't want it, and for the safety of our residents, it shouldn't be considered. Thank you for opportunity to voice this.

Thank you, Johnny. Next, Marilyn Pierce.

My name is Marilyn Pierce. We actually live on the other end of the issues here on 6315 Bailey Road, which is right at the intersection of Newport and Woodbury. And the new stoplight would be right across from our property.

So technically, are you in Newport or are you in Woodbury?

We are in Woodbury.

Okay, thank you.

Our next door neighbor is in Newport. Yeah, yeah. Excuse me. When we moved to Bailey Road just nine years ago, we were made aware that a development and a gas station would be constructed across the street from us in the future. At that point, I don't think we thought it would happen this soon, but here it is. And I'm sure you all are aware, but just so that everybody else is aware, Newport is about in the same process of getting this done for their development next door. That includes a gas station, a big gas station, an apartment building of approximately 170 units. That's a lot of traffic there. And also two, I believe two business buildings of mixed use. So our concern, living right on Bailey Road, is the traffic and everything that's going to be associated with this project. I guess my request for our family and for those of us that live on the south side of Bailey Road, there aren't a lot of us there, with most people have been there for a long time, that we be considered in the planning and the implementation of the construction process. From what I have understood, the improvements and possible enlargement of Bailey Road probably will not happen for a minimum of three to five years because of planning and budget availability. It just seems like once this development on the south side of Newport and the Woodbury developments happens, then in a very short time, there's gonna be a total disturbance to us again, and accessibility is a real concern of ours here. Our house is also the closest to the road on Bailey Road, and so I have real concerns about if there's an expansion of Bailey Road, and I understand that's a Washington County thing, but I would hope that this council would keep us in mind as residents of Woodbury in giving some information about that. Thank you very much.

Next, I have Janelle Erickson.

Hi. Hi.

All right.

Reading glasses again. Good evening. My name is Janelle Erickson. I live at 1160 Century Avenue South and have a dual homestead in Maplewood and Woodbury. Proud graduate of Woodbury High School. Little Miss Woodbury Princess, 1987. Oh! FIRST RUNNER UP, DIDN'T QUITE MAKE IT. FIRST RUNNER UP, DIDN'T QUITE MAKE IT. AND A FORMER EMPLOYEE OF AND A FORMER EMPLOYEE OF WOODBURY PARKS IN IRAQ WHERE I WOODBURY PARKS IN IRAQ WHERE I ACTUALLY WORKED AT CARVER LAKE ACTUALLY WORKED AT CARVER LAKE PARK IN HIGH SCHOOL.

PARK IN HIGH SCHOOL. OH, SWEET. OH, SWEET. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, ARE YOU IN AND JUST TO CLARIFY, ARE YOU IN WOODBURY OR MAPLEWOOD?

WOODBURY OR MAPLEWOOD? I'M IN BOTH. I'M IN BOTH. YOUR HOME IS SPLIT. YOUR HOME IS SPLIT. WHERE'S THE MASTER BEDROOM? WHERE'S THE MASTER BEDROOM? BECAUSE I More in Maplewood, though, more in Ramsey County. At your last meeting, which I watched on YouTube while I was out of town for work, several members of this council acknowledged that the Century Avenue connection deserve additional study with the 2050 comprehensive plan. So thank you. I appreciated that discussion because it recognized something important, which is obviously that this decision has not been made yet. But tonight, the preliminary plat still shows Century Avenue as a future connection. We talk about it will be studied further, but I still see a really thick line right under the letter E. And the proposed road going through the Bailey West development is still labeled as Century Avenue. And that's my concern. I've worked in advertising for 20 years. I do what Don Draper does, minus all the smoking and drinking and other things. So I do understand the power of a visual. And if the purpose of the 2050 planning process is to evaluate all reasonable access options, then This plat should not identify just one specific roadway before that work is complete. So if the other potential connections aren't shown on this plat, why is Century Avenue still there? And if there are no roads currently mapped out or identified in phase two of this development, which there are not, why is Century Avenue there? Why does it remain underneath access point E? And then showing only one option that goes through phase two creates the appearance that the decision has already been made. And once something appears on an approved plat, it becomes very difficult to change later. I've been at the other planning commission meetings. Hello, Jane. And I've shared there that my family has lived in that home since 1973, and my parents are very good at saving paperwork. So I recently found a copy of the original 1984 master plan for Carver Lake Park. in their file cabinet, which we still have. And I'd like to read something from it. Final plan, access and parking. A temporary vehicular entry point is proposed using the Camp Owen Digo Road from Century Avenue until Carver Lake Road is developed, at which time the entry point will be from Carver Lake Road. A parking lot for the cars is proposed on an unwinded portion of the site, again, being connected from Carver Lake Road. The current park entrance and the one right next to this proposed extension was never intended to be permanent. It was labeled as temporary until the road connection across the lake was built, which still has a street sign there that says Carver Lake Park Road. 42 years later, the temporary road into the park is still there. And that illustrates exactly why our neighbors are concerned, because what gets drawn on plans, they have a way of becoming permanent. And let's talk a little bit about the traffic analysis that was done in anticipation of this development, which Johnny talked about a little bit. That assessment worksheet was based on counts collected in 2019 and 2020. Of course, 2020, no one was going anywhere because of COVID. So the traffic levels would have been recorded as much, much lower than usual. It also predates the Century Ponds development in Maplewood and East Ridge Heights, which I'm sure you're familiar with. But Century Ponds is right on Century Avenue, hence the name. It's less than two miles from this hopefully eliminated proposed road extension. It will have 133 single-family homes and 73 townhomes. It's huge. It's the old golf course, the ponds on Battle Creek, and not reflected in that 2020 study. Johnny talked about the 1,500 additional trips, and that is a massive increase for this narrow roadway, and that is way more than double what is currently on the road, which is already overcrowded. Additionally, and I'm not an engineer or a planner, but what I've seen in the documents is that the road connecting B and D here and up over E would require, it appears to require 120 feet of right-of-way. to account for trees, to account for sidewalks, landscaping, the road, et cetera, a lot of safety and pedestrians, traffic flows, et cetera. The existing Century Avenue South physically does not have that space. I think we have around 60 feet. My own home is 20 feet from the road. So the extra space just isn't there to have that same consideration for traffic patterns, sidewalks, pedestrian safety, and nice trees, although we already have the nice trees taken care of, I guess. Even without any homes, there are steep embankments, ponds, and other physical barriers to that widening and that expansion. Century Avenue cannot reasonably or safely absorb that extra traffic. So, like Johnny tonight, I'm asking you to do one simple thing. If the Century Avenue connection is still under study, as was agreed upon in the last meeting, then let the plot reflect that. Remove Century Avenue as the identified future connection. And even as a copywriter, I will say change the name of that road that's going through the development which is also right now called Century Avenue because when we name something, then it becomes permanent. That's why vision boards are so popular with Oprah. Replace it with neutral language indicating that future roadway location is still to be determined pending the 2050 transportation planning process. A lot has changed in the past six to seven years when that traffic study was done. The lake, park visitors, kids riding bikes, families taking walks, neighbors getting mail, turtles, and unproblematic taxpayers who happen to live along this road deserve that consideration. So please remove Century Avenue from the plat and the visual of the road in phase two until further study is complete. Thanks.

Thank you. And then Roger Anderson. It's Roger Anderson. Oh, there you are.

Good evening.

Council, thanks for the meeting and keeping people informed. I got a ton of questions, but you're going to have meetings going way beyond this. And I'll get there's, you know, during the runoff for this project. You know, you're going to you're going from absolutely dirt property, 200, 300 acres, whatever it is, so it's all running into the ground, and they're holding ponds, which irrigate back out when they used to water. Well, once that stops, where is the runoff, and where are they sending it? You're talking all these homes, all this blacktop, These holding ponds only are gonna hold so much water and it's gotta go somewhere. So it'll be something down the road, but I'll be interested to see where they're gonna run this water out of this place. It's gotta go downhill, obviously. But this access to Carver Avenue, or Century Avenue, Woodbury has seven access points on the Woodbury side. Chamberlain Road it says right on the road future access Woodbury there's a fire hydrant on the corner and There's sewer there for the homes. So there's an easy access point. It just stops right there That's an access point. You've got Jordan Road that comes to the park. That's road. That's dead ends and stops there There's multiple paths going in on Thames Avenue, York Bay, Falstaff. There's an open lot that's there I'm sure they left it for another access so you've got tons of access to go out into Woodbury with this road. I mean, I'm not talking semi-traffic, but this low-density housing you want to put on the, they want to put, not you guys, north end. Low-density in my neighborhood, one house per five acres. That's low-density. Low-density can be up to nine houses per half acre. That's a huge difference. You can put three, four hundred homes. What's that? That's not Low density, I've read it can be from nine houses up to a half an acre.

Yeah, just clarify that.

Just for clarification purposes, the low density within our adopted comprehensive plan is 3.5 units per acre.

Okay, well, I mean, I just read something about, they said low density, and I said, well, I don't know if they're doing five acre lots there, like what's to the west of them. But it's obviously different. I mean, they show low density over here. There's hundreds of homes next to the school. That's low density. Well, there's tons of homes there, town homes. So there's multiple units there. So just that stuff, it's like, there's tons of options to get out of this place. And then with the Century Avenue extension, You've got Quick Trip gas station. One of the nicest gas stations you can go to around here. They have Full chickens you can buy. You can get pizzas. You can eat. Dead chicken. Yes. Dead chicken.

Yes.

Pizzas. I mean, you can eat in the restaurant. All these people from north of Century up in Highwood on the Maplewood side and all them houses around Lake Road by the old, well, now it's Speedy Gas. They used to be SA. They're not going there. They got the stale pizzas rotate on the rotisserie all afternoon. It's been there since seven o'clock in the morning. We're going to Quick Trip, man. We're gonna run a thousand cars a day up and down there. After 10 p.m., there is no traffic on the road I live on. Maybe a car every half hour after 11. Once the park closes, the traffic stops. No coming to my house. I'm on the curve directly in a curve part of the easements on my property I knew it was there when I bought it I Didn't have a problem with it. It's progress lived there for 26 years. I thought he got a pretty good run and I've had four cars in my front yard, the last one went 100 feet up my driveway, never hit the brakes, and hit a pine tree, a 30-footer, and I don't know how he survived, but he never hit the brakes. So just on that curve there, I mean, there's big signs both ways on that curve, and I don't know what these people are doing, but it's just a... It's not a good road to be sending. Like John said, there's traffic going past my house versus traffic going past his house. Once the park closes, then it slows down. But you cannot run trucks down that road. They'll go down at once in the wintertime. It'll never go back, never. I mean, it's, like you said, The cars are stacked up on the guardrail in the wintertime, and the people try going down, then you got two cars, three cars, like I said, the snow plow stuck on the guardrail. It's just, it's not well maintained because it's a county road. It's not Maplewood and Woodbury's road, it's a county road. So it's just, I appreciate it. There's going to be more meetings and all this stuff, and there's tons of stuff, but, you know, they've got plenty of accesses out other ways, and there's multiple ways to get out on the east side for car traffic, but I don't know about truck traffic. But anyway, thank you, and we'll be talking again. Thanks. Have a good night.

All right.

Do we have a public comment on wine? Yes, I'd like to submit my comments, questions. This is an online. This is Ellen McPartland, 1135 Century Avenue South. I was at your previous 629 Council meeting where you discussed this topic. Can you please, number one, remove Century Avenue South from the Platte and the Master Plan? None of the other potential entrances are shown on the plat, including Century Avenue South suggests a decision has already been made, but it hasn't. Please remove it until further study is complete. Number two, change the placeholder Century Avenue name. Please don't label it, quote, Century Avenue South, when we know if or when a connection will be. Use the natural language like, quote, future connection to be determined, quote, to be transparent with the public. Number three, study the environmental effects of the lake. Carver Lake is a protected resource. We must study stormwater runoff, erosion, water quality impacts, and shoreline effects before any road alignment is shown. And finally, number four, safety slash traffic impacts and pedestrian infrastructure. Century Avenue South has narrow shoulders, blind curves, and speeding. A new entrance would add traffic that would overpower the hilly road without safe space for pedestrians. Sidewalks are extremely difficult, if not impossible, to add. Thank you very much. Thank you.

Right, as far as I know, because I've done with green sheets and there's no more online comments, that this is now the time that we close the hearing. Just let me clarify, when we close the hearing, this is now an opportunity for city council to ask questions, deliberate, have conversation, but public comments then are now completed. So with that, I'd like to make a motion that we close the hearing. Second. Motion is second. Any discussion? Hearing none, all in favor? Aye. Okay, the hearing is now closed and We'll let Council ask some questions. Can I first start? Sure, Steve.

Yeah, as a 30-year veteran of Super America, I just want to say I left when it started going downhill, and our pizzas did not roll around. It was only for four hours before the Speedway. So on behalf of Super America brethren, which I'm no longer part of, he is right about the chicken.

Okay, thank you.

I'M DONE, THAT'S IT.

OKAY, THAT'S GOOD.

NO, I HAVE MORE.

I JUST WANTED TO... WELL, AND I DO JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, ALL THESE COMMENTS ARE GREATLY APPRECIATED, AND THEY, WHILE THEY RELATE TO WHAT IS BEFORE US TONIGHT, THEY'RE NOT EXACTLY WHAT WE WOULD BE APPROVING OR MOVING ON WITH TONIGHT. SO, JUST TO CLARIFY THAT. WE CAN MAKE THE DECISIONS ON THESE SPECIFIC ITEMS HERE, AND STILL, WE'RE NOT BEGINNING TO ADDRESS WHAT'S HAPPENING ON IF IT'S CENTURY OR IF IT CONTINUES OR WHAT IT'S NAMED OR WHAT HAVE YOU. Again, we're very specific to what is being proposed tonight in front of us. That said, Eric, can you just provide a little history on the who, where, why, what is the impetus to make this connection on Century?

Yeah, much like the future proposed, which is to review the overall transportation system as part of a comprehensive plan process, The last two comprehensive plans, the 2030 comprehensive plan and the 2040 comprehensive plan, identified a connection from the existing terminus of Century Avenue to Bailey Road. That's in the Woodbury plan. It's also in the Washington County plan. The reason for that is simply interconnectivity. IN OUR CONNECTIVITY OF MAJOR ROADWAYS TO MOVE TRAFFIC THROUGH THE SITE IS A BEST PRACTICE, BUT AS PART OF THAT EVALUATION, YOU LOOK AT MANY OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP THIS EVENING, BACKGROUND TRAFFIC, END DESTINATIONS, LAND USES WITHIN THE AREA, SO THAT IS WHY I THINK council wisely moved the analysis through to the 2050 comprehensive plan where additional evaluation will be looked at not only within the boundaries of Woodbury but also some of the surrounding boundaries of in Newport and in Maplewood and some of those development patterns as one of the residents pointed out there would be an evaluation of a new traffic study that looked at some of the emerging traffic patterns that there is a major redevelopment for instance of the century that is under construction now it won't show up in any data at this point it generally shows up the way you look at that from a best practice is by increasing background traffic growth when you do a traffic study in advance of development happening but we'll start to see some of those as homes are occupied and we can forecast THE REASON THAT THE EXTENSION THE REASON THAT THE EXTENSION EXISTS IS THE LONG-TERM EXISTS IS THE LONG-TERM PLANNING THAT WAS DONE PLANNING THAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY. PREVIOUSLY. THE BEAUTIFUL PART OF LONG-TERM THE BEAUTIFUL PART OF LONG-TERM PLANNING IS AS YOU CONTINUE PLANNING IS AS YOU CONTINUE THAT EFFORT AS THINGS GET MORE THAT EFFORT AS THINGS GET MORE CLEAR AND MORE CONTEXT IS CLEAR AND MORE CONTEXT IS PROVIDED. PROVIDED. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE AREA clear to those that are here we appreciate as well from a staff standpoint the questions that we've received and we try to be really deliberate as part of creation of the public record for the decision making that's really at the end of the day where the public can go to with these types of decisions what as the mayor alluded to what's in front of them tonight so acts in the planning commission staff report BASED ON PLANNING COMMISSION, EXCUSE ME, FEEDBACK, BASED ON PLANNING COMMISSION, EXCUSE ME, FEEDBACK, THEY WANTED TO BE VERY THEY WANTED TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT, VERY CLEAR THAT TRANSPARENT, VERY CLEAR THAT IT SAYS THE PHASE TWO EXTENSION IT SAYS THE PHASE TWO EXTENSION OF CENTURY AVENUE ALONG WITH ITS OF CENTURY AVENUE ALONG WITH ITS DESIGN AND CONNECTION TO THE DESIGN AND CONNECTION TO THE EXISTING CENTURY AVENUE OF THE EXISTING CENTURY AVENUE OF THE NORTH WILL BE EVALUATED, NORTH WILL BE EVALUATED, INCLUDING ALTERNATIVES TO THE INCLUDING ALTERNATIVES TO THE CONNECTION THROUGH THE 2050 PLAN CONNEC CENTRAL AVENUE WILL INCOMPASS THE EXTENSIONS OVERALL DESIGN, THE NEED FOR THE CONNECTION TO THE EXISTING NORTHERN PORTION OF CENTRAL AVENUE AND ANY POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVES TO THAT CONNECTION. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE COME UP IS WHY DOES THE PLAT CONTINUE TO SHOW THE RIGHT-OF-WAY AND THAT'S A VERY FAIR QUESTION AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THE UTILITIES THAT ARE NECESSARY TO BE IN PORTIONS OF THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY. SO THERE WILL BE UTILITIES THAT ARE EXTENDED THROUGH OUTLAW D BECAUSE UTILITIES COME FROM THE NORTH AND THAT IS THE ALIGNMENT IN WHICH THOSE GO THROUGH. A PORTION OF THAT. THAT'S WHY THAT PORTION EXISTS. IF IN THE FUTURE THERE IS A DECISION TO BE MADE ON AN ALTERNATE ALIGNMENT FROM A ROADWAY STANDPOINT, THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY WOULD BE VACATED. THAT'S NO LONGER NECESSARY.

OKAY. SO JUST BUILDING OFF OF THAT FOR A MINUTE, WE ARE ACTUALLY APPROVING WHAT'S BEFORE US, THE ENTIRE PICTURE THAT'S BEFORE US TONIGHT.

We're, what is being approved and requested for construction from a Century Avenue is what's identified on the screen.

Okay, so when it says that adoption, we're to adopt a motion approving Bailey West preliminary plat, final plat, I'm sorry, so that's not that then?

So the preliminary plat does show some right-of-way within this location, as that is to facilitate some utility construction within that area. However, the development patterns and the outlots, as you can see, that are in close proximity will be future actions.

But we are approving the preliminary plat set before us, this screen right here?

That is correct.

BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT'S NOT TECHNICALLY THE ROAD, THAT'S NOT TECHNICALLY THE ROAD, THAT'S NOT TECHNICALLY THE ROAD, IT'S THE RIGHT WAY.

IT'S THE RIGHT WAY. IT'S THE RIGHT WAY. CORRECT. CORRECT. CORRECT.

THE ROAD WITHIN THE PLAT THE ROAD WITHIN THE PLAT THE ROAD WITHIN THE PLAT APPLICATION IS WHAT'S SHOWN ON APPLICATION IS WHAT'S SHOWN ON APPLICATION IS WHAT'S SHOWN ON THE SCREEN, WHICH IS A PORTION THE SCREEN, WHICH IS A PORTION THE SCREEN, WHICH IS A PORTION OF CENTURY AVENUE. OF CENTURY AVENUE. OF CENTURY AVENUE.

BUT THE UTILITIES WILL COME BUT THE UTILITIES WILL COME BUT THE UTILITIES WILL COME FROM THE NORTH, SO THEREFORE FROM THE THERE IS SOME EFFICIENCIES TO THERE IS SOME EFFICIENCIES TO RUN IT ALONG A MAJOR ROADWAY RUN IT ALONG A MAJOR ROADWAY CORRIDOR, BUT WE HAVE MANY CORRIDOR, BUT WE HAVE MANY UTILITY CORRIDORS.

UTILITY CORRIDORS.

DO THEY RUN THROUGH DO THEY RUN THROUGH PEOPLE'S YARDS?

PEOPLE'S YARDS? YES.

YES. YES. ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. YES. YES. THEY DO? THEY DO? YES. YES. WE HAVE A PIPELINE THAT RUNS WE HAVE A PIPELINE THAT RUNS IN FOLKS' BACKYARD. IN FOLKS' BACKYARD. SURE. SURE.

OKAY. OKAY. AGREED. AGREED. BUT THIS IS DIFFERENT.

BUT THIS IS DIFFERENT.

BUT YOU'RE NOT BUILDING ON TOP OF THE PIPELINE. CORRECT. IT'S CLEARLY MARKED.

BUT THERE'S NOT A ROADWAY THERE, IS THE POINT.

PARDON ME?

THERE'S NOT A ROADWAY THERE. CORRECT. IT'S A UTILITY.

DO WE IN WOODBURY HAVE ANY UTILITIES THAT ARE CONSTRUCTED THROUGH PEOPLE'S YARDS? PIPELINE. I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT PIPELINE I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT PIPELINE NOW. NOW.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THERE ARE A NUMBER OF EXAMPLES WITHIN WOODBURY EXAMPLES WITHIN WOODBURY WHERE THERE IS MAJOR WHERE THERE IS MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE RUNNING THROUGH INFRASTRUCTURE RUNNING THROUGH PRIVATE PROPERTIES WITH PRIVATE PROPERTIES WITH EASEMENTS UNDERNEATH. EASEMENTS UNDERNEATH.

WE HAVE ONE HAPPENING RIGHT WE HAVE ONE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IN THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S NOW IN THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GOING ON THE ROAD REHABILITATION GOING ON THE ROAD REHABILITATION CONSTRUCTION OFF OF RIMBLY AND CONSTRUCTION OFF OF RIMBLY AND ST

I WOULD SAY, I WOULD ENCOURAGE COUNCIL TO THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE REVIEWS THAT WILL BE IN FRONT OF THEM AS PART OF THAT RESIDENTIAL, THAT UTILITY WILL BE PRESENT, BE CONSTRUCTED, SO IT WILL BE KNOWN WHERE THAT ALIGNMENT IS, AND AT THAT TIME COUNCIL CAN EVALUATE WHETHER THAT LEVEL OF ENCUMBRANCE ON A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IS REASONABLE. I THINK ULTIMATELY WHAT COULD BE LOOKED AT IS DO THOSE BECOME TRAIL CORRIDORS OR OTHER THINGS, THAT WOULD NOT BE UNUSUAL.

Okay, so what you, sorry, what you just said there, it would be reasonable for us to take a look at this, and I'm pointing to the Phantom Century Avenue on the picture here. If we put the utilities along there, you're saying it would be up to future council to develop or to make a determination whether we build on top of those or not.

WHETHER A ROADWAY GOES WITHIN THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY, WHETHER IT'S AN ALTERNATE ROADWAY, WHETHER THE VACATION OF THAT RIGHT-OF-WAY TURNS INTO JUST AN EASEMENT FOR THE UTILITY PURPOSES, ALL OF THOSE ARE AVAILABLE TO A FUTURE COUNCIL FOR DECISION MAKING.

And when I see, this is Newport property here. I'm sorry, I'm pointing. Yeah. This whole corner here is Newport property, and this road here is dead ending, or will it continue up into our outlets?

You are correct. That is identified to dead end in that location, and yes, it is Newport property.

So,

THOSE OUTPUTS ARE PLANNED FOR THOSE OUTPUTS ARE PLANNED FOR STORM WATER RETENTION. STORM WATER RETENTION. THERE'S NOTHING UP THERE THERE'S NOTHING UP THERE TO GO TO.

TO GO TO. WE HAVE. WE HAVE. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY.

SO THAT FROM A MASTER PLAN SO THAT FROM A MASTER PLAN PERSPECTIVE, THE INTENT IS TO PERSPECTIVE, THE INTENT IS TO HAVE THIS, I'M GOING TO GO HAVE THIS, I'M GOING TO GO TO THE ACCESS PLAN. TO THE ACCESS PLAN. THIS WOULD BE, This would be designed to connect to Bailey Road at access point A, would end in this location and basically a driveway. This is intended and designed to be the access for what's labeled as Outlot B. That is a Woodbury project. Based on previous feedback that we've received during the master plan process, careful design is a train that this is the truck access for this area and there'll be deliberate design elements to keep the truck access off of access point B in this location.

And then regarding, when does the 2050 Comprehensive Plan have to be completed? 2030? End of 2028.

2028, so two years. Yeah.

In two years, we have to have it done, submitted, approved, all this stuff. Okay. So we're kicking this to the 2050 Comprehensive Task Force to see what they think. My question is, I wasn't aware the last time this was before us until after the fact that we had already been working with developers regarding Outlaw A. Are we working with developers right now on Outlaw D? No. OR C, WHICH IS THE PONDS, RIGHT? IS THAT CONNECTED TO B?

C. OH, I'M SORRY.

THE C IS THE POND.

LET ME LOOK AT, SORRY, LET ME LOOK AT, I WAS LOOKING AT A DIFFERENT GRAPHIC. OUT LOT D, NO, WE ARE NOT HAVING ANY CURRENT, AND WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY END USER CONVERSATIONS ON OUT LOT D FROM A STAFF STANDPOINT. The areas where there has been conversations, no applications have been received and we are not having active dialogue would be on Outlot A, Outlot D, which wraps around to this area. We have not had significant conversations on Outlot B other than it is our understanding that they may be and are likely gonna be the same as the Newport developer in this location.

But there's no application in front of us.

That is correct.

Or pending, sorry, not in front of us. That is correct.

Was there an application in front of us before when we tried to rezone, when we had discussion on this too at the end of June, there wasn't an application before us at that point?

No, there are no active development applications other than for New Life for their residential, for their use.

The action in front of us. Yeah, right. The rezoning.

MAY I ASK A QUESTION? MAY I ASK A QUESTION? ARE YOU STILL ON ARE YOU STILL ON THE SAME TOPIC? THE SAME TOPIC? YEAH, GO AHEAD. YEAH, GO AHEAD. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW I CAN PHRASE IT. CAN PHRASE IT. JUST HELP ME UNDERSTAND JUST HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE STREET NAME THING. THE STREET NAME THING. I THINK THAT RAISES A GOOD POINT I THINK THAT RAISES A GOOD POINT BECAUSE IT IS ALL BROKEN UP BECAUSE IT IS ALL BROKEN UP AND WHAT IS THE THOUGHT AND WHAT IS THE THOUGHT AROUND THAT? AROUND THAT? IS THAT SOMETHING WE DECIDE IS THAT SOMETHING WE DECIDE OR WHO DECIDES THAT? OR WHO DECIDES THAT? BECAUSE

UNLIKELY, IT'S NOT UNUSUAL, IT'S NOT IDEAL, BUT IT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR MAJOR ROADWAYS TO HAVE GAPS WITHIN THEIR TRANSPORTATION PATTERNS. CENTURY AVENUE IS THE ROADWAY TO THE NORTH AND IF A CONNECTION OCCURS THERE IT'S LIKELY REASONABLE TO HAVE THAT CONTINUE TO BE CENTURY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COULD OCCUR TO SAFEGUARD AGAINST future issues is to not address properties off of Century and instead address them off of Bailey, for instance, or address them off of others. That will keep the option open for Council if it does not become Century and you don't have established businesses and other things that become a complicating factor.

Why do we have to name it Century, though?

If it's going to connect to the existing Century, it would make sense for it to continue to be Century Avenue. If it does not connect, then it's already Avenue already has three names.

DIVISION, CENTURY, 120. I GREW UP IN NORTH ST. PAUL. WE CAN CALL THEM ALL THREE. AND RIGHT NOW IT'S STUBBED. WE'RE STUBBING IT. CENTURY AVENUE WOULD CONTINUE NORTH AND WEST, RIGHT? curves around correct to the century avenue south as a as an offshoot of century avenue so the point i think would be could be made of it's not century avenue it's not a continuation it's an offshoot of it because century continues as it is today it exists but doesn't when it curves it becomes carver CORRECT. CORRECT. ANOTHER POINT OF A REASON ANOTHER POINT OF A REASON WHY WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO WHY WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO CALL IT.

CALL IT.

THAT'S EXACTLY THE POINT. THAT'S EXACTLY THE POINT. IT BECOMES CARVER LAKE BOULEVARD IT BECOMES CARVER LAKE BOULEVARD OR CARVER LAKE DRIVE.

OR CARVER LAKE DRIVE. I'LL POINT OUT WOODBURY I'LL POINT OUT WOODBURY DRIVE AND KEATS.

DRIVE AND KEATS. COUNTY ROAD 19, YOU MEAN?

COUNTY ROAD 19, YOU MEAN?

IDEAL, RADIO. IDEAL, RADIO.

COUNCIL COULD CERTAINLY COUNCIL COULD CERTAINLY NAME IT SOMETHING DIFFERENT. NAME IT SOMETHING DIFFERENT. Washington County to take it over if that was the ultimate decision would be design standards. The name is not a design standard.

So you're saying, excuse me, that there's a potential that this would become a county road?

That is correct.

We're building it to those design standards for them to be able to accommodate that. That is also correct. Interestingly enough, it's not today.

Well, yes, it would be. Well, not the portion that they were speaking of. Not to their design standards.

Right. Yeah. And that's one of the conversations that will occur with Washington County and Ramsey County is their future identification of future improvements. And that will inform, I would assume, the future conversation as part of the task force and ultimate review of the 2050 plan is what is the intention of some of the other jurisdictions. It is important to note from a council standpoint that following the council meeting for the adoption of the master plan, the Ramsey County ENGINEER DID REACH OUT TO CITY STAFF, AND WE HAVE BEGUN DIALOGUE WITH THEM REGARDING THE FUTURE PROCESS.

BY SCOUTS. I'M IMPRESSED YOU STAYED THIS LONG. IN THE FUTURE, DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU NEED TO.

WE'LL TAKE OFFENSE TO THAT.

IT'S NINE. WOW.

USUALLY IT'S THE ENGINEERS THAT GET PEOPLE TO LEAVE. I'M TALKING ROADWAY.

But Ramsey County engineer did reach out. City staff did meet with the Ramsey County engineer. They are fully on board with the dialogue as part of their comprehensive plan and our comprehensive plan, and they're very open to having further dialogue. So I think that partnership will certainly occur.

Okay, what do you mean by having, are you, they want to have further dialogue regarding Century Avenue?

sharing what their ultimate plans are, what their future improvements are.

But we didn't want to have that before we came here tonight?

No, at this point, we view it as an opportunity to have that conversation through that comprehensive plan process.

Just one more question. Low density, you said, are 3.5 homes per acre. That's what our ordinance holds.

That's what our comp plan identifies, correct. Yeah.

What do we build in the newer areas as we're, yeah.

Between three and 3.5 units per acre.

So I'm just trying to figure this out. So you're telling me the newer neighborhoods that we're building are three to 3.5 houses per acre?

That is correct.

And so if you were to go into a Wedgwood neighborhood, that's 3 to 3.5 houses per acre. Or if you went down to Arbor Ridge, that's 3 to 3.5 houses an acre?

Arbor Ridge is in that 3 to 3.5. Wedgwood is larger lots. It was developed several decades ago. I don't know off the top of my head what that density is, but my opinion would be it's in the 2.5 to 3.5. TO 2.5 WOULD BE MY GUESTIMATE, 2.5 WOULD BE MY GUESTIMATE, I'LL SAY. I'LL SAY.

FROM A TIMING, IT WOULD BE FROM A TIMING, IT WOULD BE THROUGH THE STUDY. THROUGH THE STUDY. I GUESS MY POINT IS, THE NAMING I GUESS MY POINT IS, THE NAMING OF THE ROAD IS NOT SOMETHING OF THE ROAD IS NOT SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DECIDED. THAT HAS TO BE DECIDED. WHEN DOES THAT HAPPEN? WHEN DOES THAT HAPPEN?

THE NAMING OF THE ROAD SHOULD THE NAMING OF THE ROAD SHOULD OCCUR BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION OCCUR BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS PORTION. OF THIS PORTION. IT SHOULD OCCUR UNLESS AS I REFERENCED BEFORE, UNLESS THE DECISION IS TO THE DECISION IS TO ADDRESS NOT OFF OF THAT ROADWAY. ADDRESS NOT OFF OF THAT ROADWAY.

WHAT FORCES THAT DECISION AND WHAT FORCES THAT DECISION AND WHO DECIDES THE NAME OF THE WHO DECIDES THE NAME OF THE ROAD? ROAD? CURRENTLY IT IS DEFAULTED TO CURRENTLY IT IS DEFAULTED TO CENTURY. CENTURY.

THE CITY HAS THE ABILITY TO THE CITY HAS THE ABILITY TO NAME THE STREETS.

COMPONENT OF THAT, AND WE'RE INTUITIVE NAMING. INTUITIVE NAMING. SO THEY'RE A PART OF THAT SO THEY'RE A PART OF THAT CONVERSATION, TOO. CONVERSATION, TOO.

OKAY. OKAY. BECAUSE IF IT'S CALLED BAILEY BECAUSE IF IT'S CALLED BAILEY ROAD, TO ME THAT DOESN'T SEEM ROAD, TO ME THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE RIGHT, NOT NECESSARILY LIKE THE RIGHT, NOT NECESSARILY THE RIGHT SOLUTION IF YOU'RE NOT THE RIGHT SOLUTION IF YOU'RE NOT LITERALLY ON BAILEY. LITERALLY ON BAILEY. BUT THAT SAID, I WOULD JUST LIKE BUT THAT SAID, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT I THINK THIS WHOLE TO ADD THAT I THINK THIS WHOLE THING NEEDS A LOT MORE THING NEEDS A LOT MORE EVAL a thoroughfare at this point. And I am not an engineer to help figure out, would you ever put a thoroughfare through there? Doesn't make sense to me based on how hilly and curvy it is and trees. But that said, I think this, again, the proposal, what's before us is not having to do with that. That said, can we just eliminate the name of this road right now, Century, and pick a different name AND, AGAIN, MOVE ALL THIS INTO THE FUTURE WHEN IT NEEDS A LOT MORE FURTHER DISCUSSION AND DECISIONS.

MAYOR BURT, I WOULD ARGUE THAT IT IS BEFORE US TONIGHT BECAUSE WE'RE APPROVING THIS MAP THAT'S BEFORE US.

WELL, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE NAME OF THE ROAD, SPECIFICALLY.

BUT THIS, BUT I'M JUST, ALL I WANT TO POINT OUT IS RIGHT NOW THERE IS SHOWING A ROAD CONNECTION.

AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE SHOWING. NO, IT'S SHOWING UTILITIES. IT'S NOT A ROAD. THAT IS NOT THE ROAD. GO BACK TO THE ROAD PICTURE. THIS IS THE ROAD.

THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE STUBBED, WHICH WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION LAST COUNCIL MEETING. THE CONTINUATION OF THE ROAD IS PAST THAT.

THIS IS WHY I'M SUGGESTING THAT CAN WE COME UP WITH EITHER A DIFFERENT NAME FOR THIS ROAD? I DON'T KNOW, EVEN IF IT'S MADE INTO A CONNECTION, THAT THE ROAD NEEDS TO BE CALLED CENTURY. IT IS NOT CENTURY TO THE SOUTH. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE TO THE NORTH. WE HAVE NO IDEA. CAN WE COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT NAME? THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. BERT BOULEVARD, JUST KIDDING. JUST KIDDING. I'M TOTALLY KIDDING. I'M TOTALLY KIDDING. BUT NO, WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO CREATE, HAVE THAT BE NAMED DIFFERENTLY? AND WHEN DOES THAT NEED TO BE DONE? AND HOW DOES THAT DECISION COME ABOUT?

COUNCIL COULD CERTAINLY GIVE DIRECTION TO THE STAFF TO REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO AMEND THE PLAT. WE WOULD IDENTIFY AN ALTERNATE NAME AS PART OF CONVERSATIONS WITH PUBLIC SAFETY AS ADMINISTRATOR DALL IDENTIFIED AND FROM A CONDITION STANDPOINT IT WOULD BE STAFF SHALL WORK WITH PUBLIC SAFETY TO ESTABLISH AN ALTERNATE NAME FOR WHAT IS TURNED ONLY SHOWN AS CENTURY AVENUE. I'd be for that.

I'd be for that. I'd be for that.

I get on board with that. My concern is that we're approving this whole entire plat that is before us. My question is, is can we approve part of it and leave the north part off if I make an amendment?

COUNCIL COULD DIRECT STAFF TO EVALUATE WHERE THE EASEMENTS ARE NEEDED ONLY, AND THAT IS THE ONLY AREA THAT IS PLATTED. ANY ADDITIONAL WOULD BE AMENDED. SO WE COULD AMEND THE PORTIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY NOT ENCUMBERED BY EASEMENT, AND WE COULD DO THAT FAIRLY EASILY. AND SO WHAT I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE IS LIKELY THIS AREA WOULD LIKELY NOT EXTEND.

HELP ME UNDERSTAND FOR JUST A HOT SECOND, WHAT UTILITY REQUIREMENTS ARE COMING FROM THE NORTH THAT ARE OURS THAT WE HAVE TO HOOK INTO?

THERE'S FULL SANITARY AND WATER THERE'S FULL SANITARY AND WATER THAT COMES FROM THE NORTH. THAT COMES FROM THE NORTH. FROM WOODBURY?

FROM WOODBURY?

WAIT A MINUTE.

WAIT A MINUTE.

FROM THE NORTH AND THEN WITHIN FROM THE NORTH AND THEN WITHIN CARVER LAKE PARK. CARVER LAKE PARK. WITHIN WOODBURY.

WITHIN WOODBURY. THAT'S WOODBURY WATER AND THAT'S WOODBURY WATER AND SEWER?

SEWER? THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S RIGHT. NOT OVER THERE.

NOT OVER THERE. OKAY. OKAY. YES, THROUGH CARVER LAKE PARK. and that is identified and has been identified within our comprehensive plan for many days.

But there's alternate, so what our recommendation can be is to provide alternate recommendations for easement delineations.

We wouldn't pull water and sewer off of Bailey or out of the Chamberlain?

There is some interconnectivity there, but generally speaking, the trunk infrastructure comes from the north, and that has been identified in our plan for many, many years.

I KNOW WE HAVE THINGS I KNOW WE HAVE THINGS IDENTIFIED IN OUR PLAN IDENTIFIED IN OUR PLAN FOR A LONG TIME. FOR A LONG TIME. BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT WE CHANGE BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT WE CHANGE OUR PLANS. OUR PLANS.

TRUE. TRUE.

AS THINGS CHANGE AS WE'RE AS THINGS CHANGE AS WE'RE DOING TONIGHT.

DOING TONIGHT. THERE'S ALSO A QUESTION THERE'S ALSO A QUESTION RAISED JUST ABOUT STORM RAISED JUST ABOUT STORM RIDER. RIDER. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE STORM RIDER? CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE STORM RIDER? THE STORM RIDER IS DESIGNED FOR THE STORM RIDER IS DESIGNED FOR ALL THE IMPROVIOUS ALL THE IMPROVIOUS SURFACES THAT YOU BELIEVE ARE SURFACES THAT YOU BELIE

Site engineers here, and the graphic on the screen identifies that, but if I may.

Yes, exactly. Mark Kronvig at Alliant Engineering. I'll just start with the New Life portion on the southeast will be kind of self-contained and drains towards the large wetland slash lake that there's now. The Newport and Woodbury portion of the site will drain, that's getting built, it will drain to the larger blue area. stormwater pond and filtration area. And it ultimately drains. That area goes to the northwest through a wetland and through a valley and essentially towards the river. So it's not going towards the homes.

So, yeah, so we're, I'm confused. If it's going northwest, wouldn't that be heading towards Carver and Century?

Well, it's going more west and north. And I guess, too, it's been reviewed by Woodbury's engineering staff, and we've been approved by Ramsey, Washington, and the watershed district.

I've just gone through the watershed. There are high standards now for stormwater.

Yeah, and I can add the smaller blue area on the northeast is a temp sedimentation basin, because it's a large outlot, and then that would be potentially expanded when there's potential single-family homes there.

Excuse me, just to clarify again, the public hearing is closed. This is the hearing that we're talking about right now, so you're welcome to come and bring additional comments in another meeting or send them in, but right now this is a conversation that we're having.

Say that last part again.

The smaller pond of the northeast is a temp sedimentation basin. That will be enlarged if there's single-family homes developed up there and

So as part of the action in front of us tonight, it is not the plat approval, preliminary plat approval. These stormwater retentions, would these need to be addressed if we address the easement? Because the easement right now, those are splitting the easements. the location of these, does that need to be re-engineered in order to address that?

No, I don't believe that that would need to be readdressed if Council's direction was to reevaluate the need for the right-of-way to be platted at this time as part of the FINAL PLAT ACTIVITY. MARK, IF I MAY, MAYOR, MARK MIGHT BE ABLE TO POINT OUT THE GENERAL ALIGNMENT OF WHERE THE UTILITIES COME IN, AND YOU'LL SEE WHERE THE RIGHT-OF-WAY CONFLICTS ARE AND WHERE THEY'RE NOT. I DON'T KNOW, MARK, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH APPROACHING THE SCREEN TO SHOW THAT GENERALLY? BECAUSE I THINK I think that would be helpful to understand where the overlap is. It's not all the way up through Century. And is that part, is that in front of us as part of this approval tonight? The utility expansion is, yes.

Okay, okay. So we do need to account for that tonight.

Everything that you see on this screen right here.

In part of this, though, not in B and C. No, sorry.

What do you mean?

I can try to add some clarity.

Okay, please. Do you actually need to walk up and point at the things on the screen?

Do you have the full staff report, like page 68 of our plan set, or no? I don't. Okay, so you can see that dashed line. I can walk.

Yeah, that'd be helpful.

So this is generally the easement for the large overhead power lines that are out there now. Oh, okay. THE WATER AND SEWER ARE GONNA PARALLEL THESE UP INTO THIS AREA, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GO ALONG THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE, AND THEN BEFORE WE GET TO THIS NEXT OUTLINE, WE'RE GOING INTO THE PARK. OKAY, SO HOW IS IT CONNECTING DOWN TO THE... DOWN HERE, THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE COMING UP THE PROPOSED RIGHT-O-WAY, AND THEN THEY'LL TURN NORTHEAST HERE. SO THERE'S NOTHING GOING NORTH OF THAT.

OKAY, SO IT'S JUST, IT IS FOLLOWING THE PROPOSED CENTURY AVENUE.

YEAH, THAT'S A TYPICAL ROAD

But you're saying if there wasn't a roadway on that, that's still possibly the best place for those utilities to go?

That is correct. But it doesn't have to be roadway?

Correct. That's what I'm saying. We could amend.

Council could give direction to amend the final plat, have this be an easement, drainage and utility easement at this time.

I would agree with that. I would agree for that.

Yep.

Yes.

Yeah. THREE. WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO BE? WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO BE? A SUPER MAJORITY? A SUPER MAJORITY?

ONLY ON THE COMPREHENSIVE ONLY ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT. PLAN AMENDMENT. OKAY.

OKAY.

WE COULD AMEND THE PLAT WE COULD AMEND THE PLAT SO THAT WOULD NO LONGER BE SO THAT WOULD NO LONGER BE RIGHT OF WAY. RIGHT OF WAY. IT WOULD BE THE EASEMENT, IT WOULD BE THE EASEMENT, WHICH IS PROPOSING FOR THE WHICH IS PROPOSING FOR THE UTILITY PURPOSES.

UTILITY PURPOSES. FUTURE PLATTING ACTIVITIES FUTURE PLATTING ACTIVITIES WOULD NEED TO OCCUR WITH THE WOULD NEED TO OCCUR WITH THE PLATTING OF THE ADJACENT PLATTING OF THE AD Just want to be clear.

Versus a roadway. That's correct.

I LIKE THAT, TOO. I THINK IT JUST WARRANTS IT. I THINK THERE'S A LOT, THERE'S JUST TOO MANY QUESTIONS ON THIS, SO I WOULD AGREE THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO, THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THIS WHOLE THING IS, AND SO THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE PROCESS, CORRECT? BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AT THIS POINT.

RIGHT, AND CAN YOU JUST DESCRIBE, I TALKED WITH YOU EARLIER ABOUT IT, CAN YOU JUST DESCRIBE WHAT THE PROCESS IS TO MAKE THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT?

PENDING COUNCIL REVIEW AND APPROVAL, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO REQUEST THE METROPOLITAN COUNCIL AMEND OUR 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THAT IS GENERALLY ABOUT A 45 TO 60 DAY PROCESS. THEY WOULD ONLY BE LOOKING AT TWO THINGS. WELL, THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE LAND USE ASPECT. THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE PUBLIC SEMI-PUBLIC ACCESS ASPECT AND THE HIGH-DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ASPECT OR MIXED USE, EXCUSE ME.

And then just one more question regarding the new life property, the fields that are going in there. Is that new life property then? Or is that, do we have an agreement with them, kind of like what we have with other schools that we're utilizing that area?

We do not currently have, and there's nothing that's being approved tonight to actually allow for the construction, the actual creation of fields and so on. We have had a number of conversations with New Life staff about the opportunities. We already have agreements with them on use. We have a relationship with them. They rent space from us. So that dialogue will continue as more information is known. From a potential condition of approval standpoint, The final plat shall be amended to conclude only necessary drainage and utility easements to facilitate construction of the utility extensions. Okay.

And how do you address the name change, street name change?

Staff shall work with public safety to establish an alternate name for what is currently shown as Century Avenue.

Great. Okay. Okay.

Anything else anyone wants to question or add or otherwise? Could you just read that amendment one more time? I just want to make sure I have an understanding.

The second one?

The easement.

The final plot shall be amended to include only necessary drainage and utility easements to facilitate the construction of the utility extensions. I'm going to actually amend this for clarity throughout lot D. So that'll be through this portion. So the north part that we're stubbing, so north of the stub.

Correct, north of the stub, we're gonna just stay.

For Council Cleary, this would be right-of-way to the portion that mimics to this general location would be right-of-way, and easement would take off from there. Drainage into an easement.

Mayor Burt, just one point of clarification. Mr. Searles, can you just go back to the land, proposed land use? Right there, yeah. Just confirming places to work is still going to be to the north and not places to live?

That is correct. This area is contemplated as places to work until the 2050 comprehensive plan affirms it. Thank you.

Okay. Okay, I thought that it showed something else on the other.

It does show it on the master plan.

Master plan does, but that's, yeah, master plan, yeah. We're not there yet. All right, so I will make a motion to adopt approving the comprehensive plan amendment from places to work to mixed use.

Second. Motion and second. Any further discussion? Hearing none, roll call, please. Council Member Stafford. Aye.

Council Member Morris. Aye.

Council Member Santini. Aye. Council Member Wilson.

Do we need to clarify which area that is?

No. It is identified within the staff reports and public information.

Okay, aye.

Aye. Mayor Byrd? Aye.

Steve, you wanna take the next one?

Oh, could you usually say, okay, got it.

Oh, okay, all right. Oh, I usually say that passes. Usually say it, thank you. Okay, sorry, sorry.

I move to adopt Ordinance 2080, an ordinance rezoning certain property from BCD to Business Campus District to R4 Urban Residential, and from BCD Business Campus District to B3 Planned Shopping District.

SECOND. MOTION IS SECOND. MOTION IS SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? JUST A POINT OF JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. CLARIFICATION. SO WOULD THAT BE THE HOUSING SO WOULD THAT BE THE HOUSING THEN THAT WE HAVE AROUND THE THEN THAT WE HAVE AROUND THE NEW LIFE? NEW LIFE? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING?

THAT IS CORRECT, AS SHOWN ON THAT IS CORRECT, AS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN.

THE SCREEN.

IN THE YELLOW.

IN THE YELLOW. THAT IS CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. FIRST WAS THE COMP PLAN, NOW FIRST WAS THE COMP PLAN, NOW IS THE ZONE.

IS THE ZONE. ANY FURTHER DISCUS Mayor Burt.

Aye. That ordinance passes.

I will make a motion to adopt approving the Bailey West preliminary plat and final plat project number 19-2025-00600 as amended per discussion and authorizing the mayor and city administrator to execute the developers agreement with all approvals subject to the following conditions as the City and Council letter 26-146 and as amended tonight.

SECOND. MOTION IS SECOND. MOTION IS SECOND. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? JUST A POINT OF JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. CLARIFICATION. IT'S A UTILITY AND DRAINAGE IT'S A UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENT.

EASEMENT. AND THE RENAMING. AND THE RENAMING. ANYTHING BEYOND THAT?

ANYTHING BEYOND THAT? HEARING NONE, THE ROLL CALL HEARING NONE, THE ROLL CALL PLEASE.

PLEASE. COUNCIL MEMBER SANTINI? COUNCIL MEMBER SANTINI? AYE. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER WILSON? COUNCIL MEMBER WILSON? AYE. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER STAFFORD?

COUNC That passes. First of all, I just want to say thank you. Thank you for all the work. Thank you for coming forth to speaking. This points to the importance of having public hearings when there are changes. The voice of our community is very important. We do not want that taken away. There is work being done right now in the legislature to take your voice away. We don't want that to happen. So THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT FORTH. I THINK WE HAVE COME TO I THINK WE HAVE COME TO I THINK WE HAVE COME TO A REASONABLE SOLUTION TONIGHT A REASONABLE SOLUTION TONIGHT A REASONABLE SOLUTION TONIGHT TO THIS. TO THIS. TO THIS. IT DOES REQUIRE MORE WORK, IT DOES REQUIRE MORE WORK, IT DOES REQUIRE MORE WORK, MORE STUDY. MORE STUDY. MORE STUDY. PROJECT THAT'S BEEN APPROVED PROJECT THAT'S BEEN APPROVED PROJECT THAT'S BEEN APPROVED CAN MOVE FORWARD.

CAN MOVE FORWARD. CAN MOVE FORWARD.

AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT THE NEW NAME IS GOING TO BE. WHAT THE NEW NAME IS GOING TO BE. WHAT THE NEW NAME IS GOING TO SO, AGAIN, PUBLIC AT WORK. I LOVE IT. THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO DISCUSSION ITEMS. STAFF REPORT, CITY ADMINISTRATOR UPDATE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR BURT. JUST ONE ITEM TONIGHT, AND THAT IS, I'M NOT SURE IF THE COUNCIL'S AWARE, BUT THERE'S AN ELECTION COMING UP, SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE A A LITTLE BIT OF DETAILS ABOUT THE ELECTION TIMELINE. SO EARLY VOTING FOR THE STATEWIDE PRIMARY STARTED JUNE 26TH. THAT RUNS ALL THE WAY TO MONDAY, AUGUST 10TH. THE PRIMARY ELECTION FOR STATEWIDE IS TUESDAY, AUGUST 11TH. SO THE NEXT DAY AFTER EARLY VOTING ENDS. AND THEN FOR THE GENERAL ELECTION, EARLY VOTING WILL START SEPTEMBER 18th AND GO ALL THE WAY TO NOVEMBER 2nd, WHICH IS A MONDAY, AND THE GENERAL ELECTION, OF COURSE, IS NOVEMBER 3rd. THAT'S A TUESDAY. ALL THAT INFORMATION IS ON THE WEBSITE, OF COURSE, OUR CITY WEBSITE AND A LOT OF LINKS TO WASHINGTON COUNTY, WHO ULTIMATELY LEADS ELECTIONS HERE IN WOODBURY. FROM A LOCAL ELECTION PERSPECTIVE, THERE IS NO PRIMARY, BUT BUT CITY COUNCIL AND MAYORAL FILING PERIOD, THAT STARTS JULY 14TH, WHICH IS NEXT WEEK, NEXT TUESDAY. PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN FILING FOR LOCAL OFFICE CAN GO TO CITY HALL DURING OUR REGULAR BUSINESS HOURS. THAT WILL GO ALL THE WAY TO TUESDAY, JULY 28TH. SO IT'S OPEN FOR JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER TWO WEEKS. Once that is closed, then there is a two-day availability for candidates to withdraw. That ends on Thursday, July 30th at 5 p.m. If you don't withdraw at that point, then your name will be on the ballot. So all that's on the website, but I just wanted to highlight that because it's all starting very soon. That's all I have.

POINT OF CLARIFICATION, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THERE IS NO PRIMARY FOR OUR LOCAL PEOPLE, BUT THERE ARE STATEWIDE, YOU KNOW, WE STILL NEED PEOPLE TO SHOW UP AT PRIMARIES FOR THE STATE. STATE AND EVEN COUNTY, TOO.

SO, YEAH, GOOD POINT. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE FOCUS ON NO PRIMARY. OKAY, WELL, I THINK THAT CONCLUDES OUR MEETING TONIGHT, SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN THE MEETING. Motion is second. Any further discussion? Hearing none, all in favor? Aye. We're adjourned. Thank you.