Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

The regular meeting for RAM's planning commission for Monday, December 15, 2025 now come to order. Please rise for the pledge of allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Please roll item two. Roll call.

Roll call. Uh just a second. There we are. Okay. Roll call. Mr. Glove here. Mr. Mcelli here. Mr. Long here. Miss Rosco here. Miss Jimson here. Mr. Crover, he's excused. Excuse. Okay. Mr. Bob is here. And uh Mr. Green, Mr. Green here.

And Miss Fry Tag is excused. Next item is the approval of the minutes that was held on Monday, November 17th, 2025. So called Oh, I'm sorry. Approval of the agenda for tonight's meeting. So-called. Motion by Miss Jimson, supported by Mr. Long. Roll call. Miss Jimson. Yes. Mr. Long. Yes. Miss Rosco. Yes. Mr. Blapfelty. Yes. Mr. Bob? Yes. Mr. Green? Yes.

I vote yes. Motion is carried. Now, next item is approval of the minutes from the meeting held on November 17, 2025. So, call support. Motion by Miss Jameson, supported by Miss Rosco. Any discussion on this? Roll call. Miss Jimson, yes. Miss Rosco, yes. Mr. Long, yes. Mr. Glaffelty, abstain. Mr. Bobo, yes. Mr. Green. Yes.

I vote yes. Motion carried. Uh, next is public comments. These are public comments from anybody in the audience on items that are not on our agenda tonight. Seeing no one. Carry on. Next item six is public hearings. First one is RZ2025003 Marman School Romulus self storage 15303 Marman Road. Is the applicant going to come first or do you have Okay. Very good.

If you could give us your name and address for the record, please. Hello everyone. My name is Brian Canona. Uh 3780 Milano Court, Rochester Hills, Michigan. I'm with 15303 Maryland Road LLC. Jeff Gappy, 162 Clubhouse Circle, Wald Lake, Michigan 48390. Thank you. Thank you everyone for Can you hear me? Yes.

Okay. Thank you everyone for attending. Commissioners, staff. Um so we're here to present to you uh Marman School Ramula Self Storage uh located at 15303 Marman Road. So we just want to say that the purpose for tonight's meeting is we're pretty much going to give you a project overview. Okay. We're going to respond to uh the CWA and OHM's review uh in the in their comments. We're gonna clarify some key items identified in their report and provide to you why postponement really isn't necessary tonight and that we're going to support our recommendation request for approval for uh tonight's meeting and uh our application. So, just to give you a a brief update right now, what we're we're requesting is is a conditional reszone for 13 acres at parcel A, uh, which is what it's going to be labeled. We're going to be repurposing a vacant Marman Elementary School. I'm sure you guys are well aware of. It's been there for a very long time that, uh, hasn't shut down, I'd say for almost 14 years ago is uh, what I was told. Uh we're we're looking to convert it into indoor climate controlled self storage, lowintensity flex business spaces, drive up units on the property, as well as recreational vehicle storage and moving van rental. So, a little bit of a site data right now. If we can look at the screen and really get a acquainted on the property, uh it's about 26 acres. Uh the white is highlighted on the 13 acres. As you can see, the school is roughly

almost 50,000 square feet. There's existing lots. Right behind it, you'll see the remaining 12 acres. And that right now, uh on about 9 to 10 acres is a public park. It's a it's actually a dog park that's in the far right. Uh the entire property is highlighted in red and as you can see that this little budding out towards the south end is an easement where it previously was an access road into the dog park. So I'm going to present to you our plans. This is phase one right here. Uh we have total of three phases. Phase one is going to be essentially taking the building as is. Okay. And uh converting it into self storage in the flex spaces. It's a very unique building. It's got classrooms all around on the outside and it's got a large parking lot right up front and then there's some pavement in the back of it. Uh as you can see, what we want to do is initially is is utilize the parking lot for RV storage in the front. Uh parking for the storage units and also some of the flex spaces is actually right in front of that. And then in the back, we would utilize the pavements that are there uh and provide a temporary gravel access to allow some of the RV parkings to go through, park there, and then make a U-turn and around. Uh you could see that the the first ent first uh uh entrance there is actually going to be an exit. You would enter at the most south end of the uh the property and then work your way in there and around and exit towards the the north north end uh entrance.

So, some of you guys may have seen that the if we go back here, there's there's two lots to this. One is of uh a separate lot essentially. It it makes up the whole 26 acres, but the school the first square there, there's two red squares. If you see that, uh there's about four to five acres in one little slot right there at the north end. And just below that is another uh lot both owned by Ramula School District which is the seller. I don't know. And if you can see there, it kind that line that draws right at the north end there is separates the lots. You want to go over what going to go on this lot.

Um yeah, the the the park. Yeah. Okay. So, from our understanding, the one more Yeah. So, that's the dog park. We we Yep. Explain. All right, here we go next. So, right here is phase two and three. You can see the phase line right there. Is there a laser to this? There is a laser. It goes on that screen there.

Oh, that's great. Uh, so the north north end of the property, you can see that we're going to be developing drive up self storage units. And then in phase three would be right behind the the school building would be uh more drive up storage units. Essentially what we're doing is is we're phasing out the RV parking. So it would be non-existent really towards phase three, phase two and three. Uh phase, as you can see, there's a little bit of parking right next to phase three. That's going to be where the the planned moving rental van is going to be parked. And this is going to be gated all the way around. gated access to the front as well as into the back storage units and um where the moving van rental is. So, as you can see beside me, this is a little bit of a rendering that we put together for the daytime. We've got a nighttime rendering there. It'd be very similar, give or take, the colors. Um so, as you can see, it's going to be very lighted. And on this on this image right here, the plan is to have a drive-thru uh for for the storage units to be able storage unit tenants to be able to drive in, park their car there, unload, and be able to exit through the back end and make a U-turn back around. So, we want to give you the the fiscal benefits for the city. Um we're we're going to be reinvesting this into this building. It's going to cost around 3.5 to $4.5 million. All of this is going to be funded through financed through an SBA loan. Um, now we're going to the goal is to be able to provide all of this reinvestment into the building, which is essentially going to increase the u the local tax revenue by $200,000

a year. Uh, which directly is going to be 67,000 for the city operating. There's it's going to increase the onetime permit fees by 75 to 150,000. As you can see, there's a lot of buildings there that are going to require uh you know, the process of going through the permit approvals and applications. There's going to be ongoing local spending from the vendors to um the different services that we're going to be requesting over there, which is going to equal about $100,000 a year. And then also the goal is is to be able to donate parcel B uh as you could you saw in the back that's going to be a uh donated to the city of Romulus which we were provided that it's going to cost $504,000 to about $756,000 donation to the city in value. So, the community and economic benefits are are pretty clear. It's going to take a long vacant building that's been sitting there. The school's been trying to sell it for a very long time. They've been having rough issues mainly due to the zoning there. Um they've the last applicant I don't I don't think they were actually an applicant. They never really moved forward with this, but um they were trying to come in there and and it just didn't work out. But prior to that, there was really no interest in the building. I, you know, I've talked to Ben, which is the superintendent of the school district. They're really, really pushing the sale of this property. I know that the school district really needs the funds for their students. So, it's going to be able to provide not only the Ramulo School District the funds that they need, but also it's going to provide uh really a a building into a productive use. It's going to improve the corridor in that area. As you could tell that across the street is

M1 industrial where we are. It's um it is residential in that on our side but it the plan is is to be able to develop the M1 industrial there. So, it's going to improve the corridor appearance, the curb appeal, and uh essentially the neighborhood perception of that area. I'm increasing the tax base, creating more jobs, obviously providing the lighting, we should mention 24-hour surveillance think I actually had experience on four or five other projects which I've done the same thing and working on a school in Moskegan doing the same project very similar.

So, as you as we said before, it's adding about 12.6 acres to uh as new public park land since the parcel B in the back is going to be donated to the city and they're going to have complete ownership to do what they want. I know that there is interest in residential uh back there. So, they you guys have the opportunity to bid it out for residential or expand the the park area there. So to touch base on some of the the supportive findings from CWA and OM. So CWA had mentioned that we're not spot zoning here because of the M1 indust M1 zoning across the street. Um so the adjacent subdivision which is all the way where the 12.6 6 acres are is going to be there's going to be significant amount of buffering there that it's just not going to be impacted. Um it essentially so we yeah so some of the proposed uses are limited. We do have a conditional zoning agreement in place that we had presented. So we're limiting oursel to really only the the uses that we presented. They're all low intensity, low traffic generating. Uh, and we're we're excluding any heavy industrial operations there. Even moderate tabby, there's going to be really nothing going on in that area. Self storage really doesn't generate much traffic. The the only traffic that is going to be generated is really if the the flex space uh contractors or the the the tenants that would be there. And again, most of those tenants are not going to be having any retail or customers customers come into there and those would be based on appointments and it's very slim minimal.

So we know that CWA concluded that the proposed conditions improved the compatibility and uh protect the surrounding neighborhoods and also OM had mentioned that they there was really no objections from their end. um to the conditional reasonzoning once some of their comments were addressed and we'll get to that. So, one of the things that they had talked about was the the easement there if you remember where the uh the park the old entrance that would entrance that went into the park that was it essentially that was part of the lease that was made 1970s. We have the lease. It's there. It's a uh an easement that's been there between the city of Ramulus and the and the school district. Uh it serves the dog park. You can see it in uh the um B page two of the lease agreement which we presented. Uh and also we're we're pretty much proposing to clarify all that. Obviously, the lease has to be addressed and um what we're doing is is we're we're taking a 60 ft access corridor there to be able to allow for a public road there uh for the city to use in the case that they want to be able to access the 12.6 acres from Marman Road. Uh I know it would be something that would steer residential developers in if they had access through Marman Road. I know that Oak Oakrook Park subdivision is a little bit condensed through that way. So, it it just gives you guys the ability to be able to have another access there. So, some of the discussions that that were made or comments that were made were uh the flex business suites uses and their impacts on there.

really we're we're and and I provided you guys an updated exhibit D which took our revi our our previous exhibit D and really revised it and made it a little bit more detailed which I appreciate because it did need a little bit more detail which we do provide on there as you could see that there's let's see right here you could tell that there's a lot of details that restrict the tenants from providing any sort of outdoor storage or any overnight night parking. I it if they some of these contractors will have obviously a you know let's just say uh a landscaper right has some lawnmowers. those lawnmowers. It was some of the the lease spaces would have a garage entrance into their the the lease space within the building. And also we would require them if they are unable to uh fit those in there, they would have to lease a storage unit right nearby their their unit uh the the leased unit which then essentially they'd be able to pull it out of there and drive off. So nothing would be stored there. Outside you won't really see anything from the street. would be all buffered um and we would ensure that we would provide uh strict regulation against that.

Another suggestion I had if they do screen fencing as well, we can also do that. So we're we have it's a gated access and also keypad access which is going to restrict anyone from coming in there after 10:00. It would be from 6:00 to 10 the operating hours and we would have a a manager there from 9 to about four o'clock, four or five o'clock. If I may, a lot of these things that you're talking and discussing would be laid out on a site plan when we get a site plan. So, it's like absolutely

that would be a better way to instead of going piece by piece. We don't have all this stuff that you're talking about. You gave a response to administration tonight, right? A packet of response. I did. We don't have that. They haven't reviewed it. The attorney hasn't reviewed it. So, this kind of verbal descriptions of stuff that will be covered on the site plan doesn't seem I feel like I want the overview of what you're doing and what your plan and I have no issue with it, but I don't want to get too bogged down to the things that we'll be covering with documentation later. Sure. because we do have a a public hearing and we want to let the public speak if they're here tonight.

Yeah, not a problem. So, uh, was there anything that you wanted to know specifically? No, it's just I don't want to take something verbally when we know we're going to get it documentationally and I know that we have documents that you submitted tonight that need to be reviewed. Sure. And we haven't seen those. So there, you know, I just don't want to get too mired into it.

Absolutely. uh just to to and I'll move forward because I totally agree with you that that is uh a lot of it procedural and and really done in the background. So um what we're what we're proposing really is is a lot of the the documents that we provided really meet a lot of what their requests are from OM and CW um CWA. Yep. And what we're we're asking for is recommendation for approval uh for a conditional reszoning to city council.

Okay. Thank you. At this point, this is a public hearing and I'd like to say that there's an affidavit on file of first class mail. And if there's anybody in the audience that wishes to speak on this, please come up to the podium, give us your name and address, and give us your comments. Okay, we have somebody. Hello. Hello.

My name is Don Kauski. I reside at 16247 Maramman Road. Um, this whole block between Eureka and Pennsylvania is a residential area. Even though the uh even though the west side of the street was zoned M1, that was only done because there was a party that wanted to put a horse barn there. So, the residents all had to agree to allow the other side of the road to become M1. For the most part, it is still all residential, but I feel that this is a slippery slope if you start zoning off parcels of the opposite side of the street as M1 because ultimately who okay, they're saying that this will be low impact and not a lot of industry. Who's to say that they don't sell that property in a few years and now it's zoned M1 and then the residents who live there are stuck with whatever comes in there next because that is exactly what happened to the opposite side of the road. you right now we have a few that are still they're still residences they're still privately owned but the problem is they are running businesses out of there and so and my neighbors some of them have been there longer than my family back in the 80s and they are looking across the street out their windows at junkyards and storage facilities. I I think this is a very slippery slope that needs to be properly considered all the way around.

Thank you, madam to platter. I'll hold it.

Uh there we go. Um good evening commissioners. Happy holidays. Um, if we have more comments, I kind of wanted to uh the the resident made a good made a very good comment and just to um discuss what what's being proposed tonight is is what the world of planning we'll call sometimes contractual zoning or conditional zoning. And so just a a real brief overview of that because because of the comments made by the resident is that um a property owner, a potential property owner can petition a community to reszone a piece of property for a specific use. Um what that does uh for a long time the zoning enabling legislation didn't allow that and and that opened the door or we use a slippery slope term for other potential uses if the property owner were to go out of business or if the property owner were to sell the property or whatever the case may be. Any of those uses in the M1 or M2 district could be permitted. So, the state changed the the law, the zoning law to say, "Okay, uh, folks, if you if you want to propose a specific use on a piece of property, that's going to give the municipality, the planning commission, and then ultimately the council a final decision and a much more most of the time comfortable decision. So basically what you're looking at commissioners and for the residents who are here is that uh the only use that can go on this site if it is reszoned is the the mini storage and the ancillary uses attached to it.

It's tied to the business. Am I correct?

It's directly tied to the business. And so um if the business were to go out of business or if the property owner wanted to do something more intensive, they they could they would have to go through a process or they would have to go back. it would revert back to the residential zoning if it were to close up. And so I think that's an important concept is that um because I I'm I'm supportive of the use on here. Uh but certainly the number of uses that could be in the industrial district wouldn't fit here. This is more of a low inensity use for this frontage on Marman whereas a lot of the uses in the industrial district just wouldn't fit. So, I just wanted to kind of clarify that process and as you know, you're a recommending body. Uh once you're comfortable with uh the conditional resoning and the kind of the overall concept, you would make a recommendation up to city council.

Is there anybody else in the audience that wishes to speak on this? Seeing no one, I'll close that part of the

Oh, we have somebody in the back. My name is Imtias. Uh I am neighbor to that property. My address is 15295 Marman. Uh the property was high school. Uh you know I have a kids I cannot have a storage next to my house. Is a zone for residential has always been there. uh like like she said if you guys change it to M2 and later on this is going to be storage vans uh parking space of that thing is is not going to be suitable to the residential area and uh they was talking about they're going to donate some land to the city uh did they have any survey done on that. Maybe that's a wet land. City cannot do anything on the land either.

What direction do you live from the property? Right next right next door. First house from the Marman. Okay. So, you're directly north of the property. Yes.

Thank you.

Anybody else wish to speak? Yes, sir.

Name is Gerald Christian. I'm a property owner one house south of the site. In regards to the sewer line to that school, that was a temporary sewer line put back in the 70s or so with no public that live on Marman Road to have be able to use. Instead, people are spending $30,000 for septic tanks. And that temporary sewer line to the school was for the school use only. And nobody wants to talk about that. And another thing, the traffic on that road to get to the storage lot should be offering black top or something because the road's already a mess with just homeowners traveling and land owners traveling on Marman in the winter and the spring. So, we should consider how we can tie that into this to make it beneficial for the people that are property owners and live in the area to have better road conditions because if we're going to have more traffic, we're going to have more potholes and more, you know, terrible roads in the spring and in the fall. Thank you.

Thank you. That was a good point. Is there anybody else? All right, I'll close that portion out and open it up to the commissioners. Mr. Long. Yes, through the chair. Yes, sir. Thank you for uh coming in and presenting your um petition tonight for your storage unit, but one question I have in regards to the property. Are you is this conditioned upon you um having this reszoning approval? Yeah, this yes, it's it's conditional resone approval. So, have you purchased the property?

We have not. We are under contract with the school district right now and we're nearing the the end of the contract right now. So if you're granted this here um resoning request, the conditions from which the resident expressed their concerns, how would you address those issues if um they were brought forth when you go to council if we approve it here? So, from what I heard, it it would change the surrounding area was one of the concerns. Uh, as this is all residential, I know that the um the the individual that said he lives just north of this uh what so it's going to be gated access right now. We would actually provide a gate right past to prevent anyone from, you know, crossing over into his property. Uh it would be gated from up front, anyone to cross in. We would have security, 24-hour surveillance. Um one of the discussions we had was partnering up with the Ramulo School District and their robotic team to be able to compose a robot there that would uh AI generate walk drive through to be able to uh assess this the the area through surveillance to see if there's anything going on. Um that that was one of the discussions we had. lighting.

And to address their concerns about traffic, I like I said, I have a couple storage facilities myself. And we probably see, if we're lucky, two to three customers a day, and we have roughly 300 units at one one of the locations that we have. Other one's got 400. So, we're looking at max four or five people per day.

Yeah. So, as as far as we're not really going to be changing the look of the inst the institutional building, it's going to stay the same. The building is essentially going to be unchanged as far as what it presents as other than what the the storage buildings would be up front. Uh, might I remind there is M1 up across the street. So, eventually the plan for that corridor to improve and develop for M1. Uh, there I know it is a dirt road. That is definitely something we we understand there. It it's something that we've discussed diligently, had multiple conversations with our lender to be able to see what our options are. Uh again, the traffic is lower than really what the school generates. those buses coming in there and all the the parents and and the teachers, you know, we're bringing it down to about 200 vehicles less, two to 300 vehicles less where uh so it's not going to break up the road as it more than what it would be already whether the school was there or not. So uh also that road is planned for a class A uh improvement and in the master plan. So I I would assume if the M1 develops really nicely that the city would definitely want that road through public funding to be able to to develop it themselves. So for something as far as the road goes, we've like I said, we talked to our lender and because it's an SBA loan, there's no way that they're going to be able to fund reconstruction offsite. So uh that's that's something that we we definitely do acknowledge. And as far as a neighbor that's concerned about his children, the uh the property will be completely gated. So unless they're climbing,

I would hope that when the site plan comes, there'll be buffering between any residential property. I don't want headlights going into somebody's homes or any kind of visibility if we can avoid it.

And and absolutely. I think buffering was very important to us when we first discussed this. Um, I'm just going to go back up here. If you look at this in the back, you you see the natural buffing buffering there already. There's there's no way that anyone is going to be able to see this the the self storage. Uh, if they if they do, there's if you look at all the way in the back of parcel B, which is where the city park is, the city dog park is, where the residential homes are are back there, there's already natural life planting back there. And we're providing in the back about I think it's 75 ft uh a buffer as well as the natural buffers there. And I considered the neighbor to the north as well. And I you know I even told our city uh civil engineer I said you know what let's let's stay as far away as we can there. So we also provided the 75 ft buffer there as well. Um and we're going to have in the site plan it's going to explain a lot of detail on where the trees go. I'm sure we're going to be able to put

Well, I'd like to see screening just prevent them from having to deal with Yeah, we're okay with that. Absolutely. And also answer your question here, Mr. Long. Was it and also through the chair when you stated on your um petition that about warehousing you know that it would be some warehousing there because if I'm you renting to a client that um is storing things there that would be considered warehousing.

So we would actually restrict any warehousing that that is there and that's part of our exhibit D conditional resoning agreement. There's going to be our our tenants for flex space are mainly going to be contractors and on there it'll go into detail and it provides the specific tenants we're only allowing there. We we would restrict any warehousing that would happen there. If there is anything and and that's related to operations, but if there is anything that they do want to store,

it's going to be in a storage unit. So it would and and uh there's not going to be deliveries in regards to semi-truckss coming in there. We're restricting any sort of deliveries to the the weight limit to Marman Road. So, I mean, more than an Amazon truck weight would be the max. Yeah, that was my point there because if I'm all if I have a small business and um and I'm getting stopped delivered to the facility. That was that's what I was getting to right there at that point that the delivery will be coming there. So, but that's operational like you said. Thank you.

Anybody else? Okay. My only comment is this. Um, you've made a very nice presentation. You did a good job, but you presented a lot of information that just went to the administration tonight that needs to be reviewed. It needs to be vetted by different departments, including legal. The conditional resoning agreement will have to be updated. My opinion, I feel like we need to postpone this for the next meeting. Yes, M. Jason. Yeah, I do have one question. I think Carol, is that a Tiff district or no? It is the other side of the road is the other side. The west side of Marman Road is

okay. So, in terms of some improvements that that you know, half the road. Okay. Thank you. There are any other comments on a motion? So, it's in response to that, Commissioner. Uh, and I respect your comment as far as, you know, recommending postponement, but a lot of the things are very procedural and can be handled really administratively. Uh, to postpone this. Right now, again, we are under a contract with the school district, which is nearing the end, and we've we've kind of mentioned that.

Yeah. and we we did have to pull an extensions already on it. We've been going really we've had multiple discussions and sat down with the city uh in regards to the conditional zoning agreement and and the the the planning here. We've had two previous meetings uh you know the mayor was involved and also coming uh uh the uh community developer. Uh what we're a lot of this is a conditional zone reszoning request. It's a land use request. It's a lot of the the the fine details as far as uh you know the the conditional zoning agreement really can be handled administratively. So that is our request as well as you know recommendation for approval is is if we would get a a request to approve here that a lot of the things would also be a request to approve administratively with this the lawyer the city lawyer as well as uh the planning director. I've been up here 24 years and I can't remember where we've ever had u a conditional resoning that isn't complete that isn't finished that's doesn't have a site plan tied to it and then we just said oh well we'll just go ahead and approve it um I'll leave this up to this panel they can make their motion Mr. Bl

Mr. Chairman, I I enjoyed your presentation, but I can't vote on something I can't see. I'm just not comfortable with I'd be much more comfortable by postponing it. I'd like to see it in front of me next time. I understand. Thank you. Uh through the chair, I have a couple of questions for you guys. Uh uh a resident brought up the proposed parcel that you want to donate asking if maybe a survey has been done if it's wetland. Is that something you guys have looked into? I mean if you don't have an answer that's fine.

Yep. The survey we have uh just completed a survey. I don't know if I'm going to bring up Chris here because civil engineer he'll answer that. Yeah. I would just like the resident's question to be answered. Good evening. Christian Cvich, uh 2183 Plus Drive, Brighton, Michigan. Uh we are working through the survey process right now doing topographic survey, boundary surveys for the property. Uh there have been no wetlands identified on the property at this time and uh we're still working our way through it, but I don't anticipate to uh find any within that particular area.

Okay. So survey is ongoing. Okay. The other question that I had, you you'd mentioned a drive up within the storage. So, is it a drive-thru? Is it a drive up? And if it's a drive-thru, how many cars? I mean, I'm I'm never heard of a drive-thru within a storage facility. Pretty much uh for the people that load and unload their products are not getting rained on or snowed on or they're away from the elements, from nature. So how many cars can two cars two to three cars just two? Yeah.

Okay. And then my last question is you'd mentioned in your plan here um RV storage. Am I reading that correctly? Temporary which is mainly in phase one. Okay. So you you plan to offer RV storage and then to phase that out. Phase that out eventually. Yes. Okay. And then you also said uh moving van rental office. So you'll be you have vans on site parked and it would be like a U-Haul type facility where people can come and rent vans.

It would be it's an ancillary uh use that's related to self storage. So it's it's we're going to be it's not going to be a primary U-Haul uh u vendor. It would be five trucks parked in the back. We offer the service for moving van rental uh because a lot of the the the tenants there would be moving. So they those are the individuals that typically use self storage. So they would rent the van from there, move their equipment and then return it at another location. And then final question, could you please put more texture around flex business lease suites? What what what exactly does that mean?

It would be more like for contractors like we discussed like landscapers or maybe somebody that has a small business, for example, somebody that So, is it like an office space? Yeah, kind of like a big office, right? So, somebody that, let's say, somebody that makes granite or Okay. Uh, he's got a granite business, marble business, and he needs a place to work out of. So, it be pretty much his office. Office, not storage, his equipment, storage yard, landscaping materials outside.

Yeah. So we our limitations are no storage outside any of the equipment that would be in there would be related to the business only and it would not be any it would be only light duty required. So for example the use category falls under professional offices would be architects, engineers, accountants, consultants, real estate offices, insurance offices, uh things of that nature. Uh personal business services and trades would be more of, you know, individuals in the electrical and plumbing. Uh uh contractors uh like landscaping businesses that would want to be able to put their uh lawnmowers into one of the storage units or one of the uh tenant spaces. uh creative studios like art studios, music studios, uh photography studios, uh and also and the smallcale assembly or the storage like e-commerce. So for example, uh that's where the light product assembly would would occur or kitting which is promotional kits. A lot of them are they're you're seeing a boom in online s uh sellers which what they do is is they essentially package and and ship. So they need a little bit of a larger space to be able to do that. Yeah, we've seen um a self storage plan and this to me is it has a lot more to it

and I would just like to see what it looks like. Um because there's yeah there's just so many nuances with other things attached to it that um if it was just self storage straight up self storage it it's easier to um visualize and you know but RV parking and lease space and we need for me I need more details there there's a lot to it commissioner and and I know there's a motion on the floor but What I what I would say there's not

Oh, there's not a motion. Okay. No, sir. Um what I would say is that there are there are still some questions um that need to be worked out with the attorney through the the development agreement and the conditional resoning agreement. For example, when does the property convey to the city? When does the property behind the post school? And and again, I'm saying these things with the understanding that you don't often get an opportunity to uh redevelop a school. I'm I'm I'm working in a few of these in some of my communities where these poor buildings because whether it's working with the school district or the arch dascese or whatever the case may be, they sit and they become a blighted use. And so I I think that this there's an opportunity here for this. Uh, but what I'm hearing from the commissioners is that there's still some questions in in regards to the late to the to the overall use and um the information provided tonight, I haven't reviewed it, but uh it it clarifies some of the issues with what flex space is was submitted to staff tonight. Um, but that kind of sets the table also for if there's going to be more flex space or office uses, how does that impact the amount of parking that would be required for the site? So, there's some there's some things that need to be tiebarred together. Uh uh but again but overall uh to have an opportunity to redevelop the school to go but to go through that detailed process of site plan review to screen and buffer whether through landscaping and lighting uh these uses so they don't impact the residents. That's going to be that's going to be um your exercise to do that. there's nothing preventing uh the applicant and I realize there is options on property and how that all works but there's nothing preventing the the applicant from uh concurrently submitting uh a site plan along with the conditional reszoning. I I I think that there what

I'm hearing there is a comfort level with the actual concept. So you could possibly go through that concurrently if that's there's some interest. We have in the past gotten resonings along with the site plan same night and approved lo same time.

Correct. You normally do they're normally more detailed one simple component of the site plan in phase one even which is um a little bit beyond a reoccupancy. It's not as detailed as obviously getting into phase three but the way the gravel the just the use of gravel is they have to approve that on a site plan. Uh they can't do that per agreements. The variances that were required they can't do that per that agreement. So there's there's sort of this twofold thing that agreement needs to be more detailed. Um described process is a little more the big one yeah conveyance to the city on property that that's big but then the more detail on the site plan which they are very used to seeing go hand in hand. So, it's partially there and kind of as we told you at the meeting, you sure you don't want to wait till January? There's this is going to be

and I mentioned it's trust me, we if we could keep extending this, it'd be great. But, you know, we're pressured on on our end as well. You know,

I will say I did have a call from um from the real estate agent and he appeared to be very understanding of what this kind of process is. This does not happen overnight when you're dealing with these agreements. Yeah. Um, as you know, we noted in one of our reviews, our legal council is retiring parties tomorrow. Um, so we've got new people on board that need to look at this and um, you know, you've got plenty to work with with what's been given you here in that agreement. Typically with these agreements, we all of us go through them. I mean, how many times do we go back and forth? Three, four, five times, you know, back and we sit right down with you. We mark them up and we go back and forth and we haven't had the opportunity to do that with you on it. Sure. But we all kind of agreed, well, the stuff here is it's definitely heading in a in a direction that we can do something with and talk to you about certain things and, you know, go from there.

Mr. Jameson.

Yeah. Um, couple of more questions. So you listed a lot of different type of uh businesses with that flex use. Those people have clients andor customers. Are they going to be visiting those sites? And as he mentioned that that that changes the whole thing about parking, but then also it it becomes almost like a a business, you know, a business center. Yeah. or or or retail cuz if you got people that are doing light production, so is there like one or two people in there and now we got like a a light assembly line thinking happening. So now you're talking about employees and in in and out. So it sound like a whole lot when you listed all of those uses. And so um that makes a little concern um because like my commissioner partner said there that it's not just a self storage unit anymore now. Now it's it's small businesses that you're actually um housing as well. So that that that's really different and that's more traffic than just your two or three people a day as your as your counterpart mentioned there for the units that he has that has three or 400 units, two or three cars a day. No, you throw business people in there then then that adds. And then if you throw customers and you throw assembly, yeah, it's it's more than your two or three cars a day. So that that really does need to be addressed and that information that you gave them. Hopefully those details are in there so we get to see that because I wouldn't vote on anything like that that I couldn't see either. So and there is a concern now cuz Yep. It's a dirt road and it's more than two or three cars now. So yeah, we do have a greater impact than the parking issue. So that you that adds a whole lot more to it um for us to make a decision like that. And we live here too. So we don't live there

but they are our neighbors. So we have a concern for our neighbors as well.

Absolutely. And I respect that and I totally understand. Uh we do have some detail in regards to the the traffic study uh that we we did a preliminary study and we took into account the the amount for the higher end of the tenants that we would have there. We also placed restrictions on the am the customers that would come in. It would be appointmentbased. It would be appointment by appointment. So a large amount of people to come in. There are de a lot of restrictions and which I just gave and I to totally respect that there. They need to be reviewed. So I understand. My question is is I I know that from my understanding the the site plan review is a different process procedure to this which this is a little bit uh different than this is more of a land use request

uh where what we're understanding is is you're uh requiring or recommending or requesting a site plan along with the land use request.

Right. It's a it's a conditional resoning and as as Mr. Inos talked about, you know, what that's all about. This so happens to be something that there's going to be improvements done on the site. So that site plan goes along with this. They go hand in hand and it's it's actually referenced in your agreement. We just don't have the detail on it. So, and again, like like I said, even phase one, that use of gravel, that's not anything we can do administratively. That's got to come back to them. Um, you know, something about sewer came up that and, you know, we'll have Jessica look at just, you know, we get started and see what these questions are about, what needs to be what needs to be looked at. There'll be that whole component of the inside of the building that Jeff will, you know, want to get into a little bit more and get more detail there. um you know conceptually and and sometimes conditional resonings do have concept plans but just to to to like I said the use of gravel alone and it's not the full-blown um you know site plan necessarily for phase one with that amount of expansion you're doing but you are doing some expansion so

yeah so my next question is is for the site plan are we looking for it for all of the three phases or We is it just essentially the agreement will need to address that. Typically what agreements do is they'll address what happens in phase one, what happens in phase two, what happens in phase three. So phase one is is going to be all about the stuff that you've told us. You know, renovating the inside of the building, um adding some areas, the whole repavement of the parking lot, I don't know if that's been talked about tonight. And does Wayne County come into play with storm water? all that that you'll need to look into and um get that addressed. So I don't know Jessica, do you have any more comments on that?

Jessica might in terms of some additional information for the site plan that that looking at.

I there are a couple items that I have been talked about tonight that I'd just like to clarify what we would be looking at in regards to engineering. Um the sanitary sewer, there is a sanitary sewer lead that does come from the Oakbrook subdivision. It is not intended to be a sewer that can be um extended to serve any properties along Marman Road. So there is there would be no intent to um create that as a public sewer and do any further extensions. But the the sewer that exists now um we would recommend that it be tbded to ensure that it still is uh has um um it it still is structurally sound and that there um is the ability to use it. the sanitary sewer that is there will need to be relocated during their phase two um in order to not be impacted by the the buildings that they're proposing. Um, per Carol's mention of phase one, the repaving of the parking lots and the use of the gravel, that will trigger a Wayne County um, uh, permit process to do uh, storm water management on the site and they will have to accommodate any of the impervious area that they are creating. Um, and then I would like to just note that though the traffic generation study that they did does show that they will have less cars than the proposed or that the school did in its heyday 15 years ago or so. That does not um negate our recommendation of paving from Maramman Road to the end of their property in order to provide a paved surface um for this use. Um, I would say that the school probably needed a pave service as well and they the city taking on the maintenance of having this added traffic

on to Marman Road um is not something that I I don't believe that the DPW is looking to maintain a gravel road for this purpose. So I would contend that the recommendation stands that they should pay that the road should be paved from Mirramment to their south property line. And I said we there's some things that have to be worked out. Yeah, I have no doubt. Chair. Yes, Mr. Rusco. I just have one comment. Um, we are better off to postpone this tonight than to push it through to city council because in my opinion, when it gets to city council, it would get denied. That's right.

And you're better off to have it postponed here than denied there. That's just my uh opinion. And Miss Rosco is our leazison to the council. She is a council member. And I I just don't believe in the format that we have here tonight that it would it would pass city council. Understood. Thank you. We have a motion. I can make a motion. Mr. Lely. Mr. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion to postpone RZ-20225-00003 Marman schools Ramulo self storage. Is there support?

Motion by Mr. Glopfelty, supported by Mr. Long to postpone RZ 2025 003 Marman School, Romul Self Storage, 15303 Marman Road. Is there any discussion? Seeing none, roll call. Mr. Lfelty, yes. Mr. Long, yes. Miss Rosco, yes. Miss Jennison, yes. Mr. Bob, yes. Mr. Green, yes. Chairbo, yes. Motion carries. This is postponed to sub. Thank you very commissioners. Merry Christmas.

Thank you. Next item is the next public hearing RZ 2025 004 Bradford Airport Logistics Wayne Road and Eureka Road petitioner here could give us your name address.

My name is Marcus Tommy. I'm the director of economic development for the airport authority, the Wayne Airport Authority. Uh address is 11050 Rogale Drive, Detroit, Michigan 48242. The request that you have for you tonight is for a project that is years in the making. The airport authority conducted a public solicitation in which Bradford Airport Logistics was awarded the opportunity to design, build, finance, operate, and maintain a centralized receiving and distribution center facility. Our development partners for the project include Bradford, Gilbane, CNS Engineering, and LS LS3P. Uh, and I'll now ask Mike Rosson from Bradford to come up and provide you with the details of our request. And thank you, uh, happy to be here and we appreciate the opportunity. Um, like I said, I'm Mike Rosson, uh, director of business development for Bradford Airport Logistics, uh, 7324 Southwest Freeway in Houston, Texas, 7704. Um I don't live here but that's where our corporate headquarters are in Houston but we do have operations here in uh Detroit. Um the purpose of our presentation tonight is to give you a little bit of an overview and many of you probably are asking what is a centralized receiving and distribution center and we want to give you a little context a little background and excuse me little frog my throat and uh go over what we're proposing for the site um and uh building and things like that some of the key benefits for Wayne County Airport Authority as well as the city of Ronus. So if I may uh begin the presentation. So just a little bit about Bradford and it's us. We always like to

put this on here together. We are Bradford airport logistics. Uh we continue to be the primary catalyst for uh CRDC growth and innovation within the US and the global aviation industry. Our purpose really is to help airports run great. So the centralized receiving and distribution center, think of it as the main logistics hub for the airport. All goods coming in or destined for sensitive areas of the airport, the main terminal complexes of the camp as a whole would go through the centralized receiving and distribution center, the CRDC. At that point, um it's uh staged, screened, and then redistributed. Um once once those goods are processed, we do this in these facilities. It creates operational efficiency, right? The site reduces costs, streamlines deliveries, and adds capacity security, enhanced screening compliance. The facility will be future ready with enhanced regulatory standards and ready for for anything else that is laid out by DHS and the TSA. Sustainability supports recycling initiatives of the airport. Safety minimizes roadway traffic on the terminal fronts and surrounding areas. And then the community impact is we don't want to under ate this, but we intend on utilizing 20% MWTVE participation with local local businesses. With that, I would like to introduce one of my colleagues, uh, Mr. Rick Free, who's our vice president of quality assurance compliance. Good evening, commissioners. My name is Rick Free. My address is 2588 World Gateway Place, sweet T160 Detroit. And again, I've been with Bradford for 15 years. I have been working as a concessionire at the airport since the doors opened until I transferred over to um to Bradford. So I've been at the airport for 25 years and have seen it change in many

significant ways to benefit the operations of the airport and to benefit those employees, those folks who do work at the airport. Currently the airport maintains two centralized receiving distribution centers. One is located in the McMary terminal, one is located in the Evans terminal. The object of this is to consolidate those operations for one operation. Again, many of the concessionires that operate in the Mcmary terminal also have operations in the Evans terminal. So we have a very big duplication of services. Vendors that supply these concessionires are required to visit both sites in order to deposit goods. Going to one centralized spot located off campus mitigates the risk issues of having unknown vehicles approach the airport and then allows vendors to just make one stop to offload all their goods so our facilities can be processed. Ergo, that's why we want to go through and move forward with this in consolidating our operations. Thank you.

Good evening. Michael Holdwick, 3977 Blockbend, Commerce Township, Michigan. Um, I'm with CNS Engineers. We're the civil engineer of record. I'm also here to represent LS3P who are our architectural partners and just give you a little overview of some of the development details on the project. So, um starting from the big picture, uh just introducing the site. So, the site that's in question that we look to reszone is um in the southwest corner of Wayne Road and Eureka Road immediately south of the airfield at DTW adjacent to checkpoint 34. For those of you who are familiar with the airfield, um we're proposing to develop 7 and 12 acres of that 40 and a half acre parcel. So this is the norththeastmost corner of Eureka and Wayne roads. It's the upland portion of um that particular site. In general, we're looking to establish approximately 30,000 square foot warehouse, which will be a centralized receiving center for goods that come into the airport, uh, with 10 inbound docks and seven or eight outbound docks. And, um, currently the parcel is zone C3 and we're proposing to reszone it to M2, which is General Industrial. Uh, the parcel is part of the Southern Gateway. It's also worth noting. Um, so just to lay out some of the community the vision and the community benefits. I know this is wordy, but we just wanted to start with the M2 zoning. Um, M2 zoning is really where um the city wants to take this particular corridor to support the transportation and um industrial type facilities that

support in and around DTW. The current zoning is uh C3, which is your retail and highway support developments. So, we believe long term um it's in the best interest of the city to reszone this parcel to be more congruent with the Southern Gateway Plan. So there are four main or key benefits uh that I want to mention for the city of Ramulus. First is the economic growth and stability. The proposed use is compatible with surrounding land use and will expand the local tax base in the southern gateway. Next enhanced property appeal. The project can and will uh attract additional investment making use of the improved infrastructure at the parcel. Further, the sustainability and smart growth uh our request reflects thoughtful planned growth principles that complies with all environmental regulations. And lastly, the community engagement. The project supports long-term community goals by bringing a state-of-the-art airport logistics center to the city. So, a little bit about um the site plan details. This is a preliminary site plan that we've developed. And I just want to introduce some of the key concepts so you guys can fully understand what we're proposing to do here. So, um plan north has now been rotated. So, this is north on this side and the airfield is across Eureka Road. Uh this is Wayne Road. So, what we're proposing is to um install a 30,000 foot logistics facility with two entrances off of Wayne Road. The southernmost entrance is where the truck

docks would be located. So, the inbound trucks or nonsecure goods come in this location. They're screened, stored, and sorted. And then they come out of the outbound or the gated um truck docks. And from here they're delivered ac uh up Wayne Road across Eureka Road into the terminals. Um the employee parking would be on the north side of the facility with a second entrance coming off of Wayne Road. And um all the development will be in accordance with the site plan review process. So you'll see that we've proposed sidewalk. Uh we have the offsets that are um compliant with the M2 zoning for both uh the front uh sideyard and then also green back uh green belt. Um there's a 24 foot wide fire circulation road uh for the zoning ordinances and then some site features uh retaining walls and things like that. Um it's worth noting that there are wetlands on the site to the south and some to um the west that we are not impacting. So the the develop the developable site that we're proposing as part of this does not impact any existing wetlands. This is a rendering of the um logistics facility. This is taken looking northbound on Wayne Road. So this is Wayne Road and then Eureka Road is is up here to the north. You'll see these are the inbound truck docks and then the outbound truck docks would be located behind that. This is just a representation of the materials that we plan on using. So um we intend to fully comply with the material requirements that are laid out in the zoning ordinance. Um the building proportioning and the roof line will be um congruent

with the surrounding facility. So, it doesn't have as high of a roof line as you would see on some logistics facilities. And then we're also um proposing screening through um landscaping trees and ornamental walls to block the site from the public roadways. This is just a snapshot of the floor plan if you want to address that.

Good evening, commissioners. My name is Gage Prime. uh 7324 southwest freeway Houston, Texas. I'm the project manager with Bradford. So, I just wanted to give you an idea of what the internal flow of this building will look like. So, as Mike mentioned, in that green area, we do have 10 inbound dock doors where vendors can drop their goods off, they'll be unloaded into that green L-shaped section of the building. Um, and just to mention, you guys are going to be getting a very state-of-the-art high-tech facility on the inside of this. You'll notice the separating wall between the green and the red spaces has some X-ray machines. Those are state-of-the-art brand new machines that we use to screen the goods for security, making sure nothing prohibited makes it to the terminal. Once the goods are screened, they'll be put in storage in the cooler and freezer on the plan north there um or in dry storage in the rest of the red area, whether that's been staged and will be loaded onto our trucks in the light red area and delivered out to the airport. Mike mentioned, we also have that small yellow area which is going to be the office area uh for use by our management team for conference rooms and things like that and training. Um and also Mike mentioned you know we are going to be designing this to comply with all the Romulus ordinances in terms of design. So like you mentioned building materials screening things like that. Total square footage of the interior is going to be about 30,000t use. Um and we are designing with the capability for integrated operations of other you know consolidated needs. So off-site supply chain touches could be consolidated in this building as well. And we're designing really with sustainability in mind, making sure we have great areas for recycling to maximize the potential recycling program for the airport. Uh this is also just kind of a side rendering showing more images showing earlier. And with that, I'll turn back to again high level, excuse me, high level over. like to open it up to the commissioners to if there's any questions that we could answer.

Being that this is a public hearing, I'll open that portion and then open it up to anybody in the audience that wishes to get up and speak on this from the citizens. Seeing no one, uh just bear in mind we do have a affidavit of first class mail for this public hearing also. And I'll close that portion out and open it up to commissioners. Um my question is your building is what 30,000 square ft and the site is going to be that you're going to be utilizing is relatively a small portion of this 40 acres. Why are you reszoning the entire parcel?

Correct. It so the building is 30,000 square feet. Our develop area we will develop is approximately seven acres. Um the decision was as uh to enable uh for Wayne County the development of uh other local or regional businesses.

Yeah. So, it's a great question to be able to say why are we asking for the entire parcel? Uh, and that's because we believe that this project is going to spur additional businesses, additional airport specific logistical services that we can utilize uh on that site. So, this isn't just a a one-time choice. It's that we want to be able to drive additional businesses to that location and having it reszoned as M2 is going to afford us those opportunities. So you don't foresee any other different use than that use that C2 use. That's correct. Um any other commissioners have any comments?

Do the chairman I'm kind of familiar with Bradford um logistics out there at the airport. Now all the vendors, do they use Bradford or are separate vendors using different um forms of bringing their goods in or do do they have to go through Bradford? They've got to go through Bradford airport logistics. Any materials going into the sensitive areas of the airport, main terminal complexes, things like that, they have to go through Bradford. They deliver to us first. We staged them, screened them, and

now the current facility that's over there now that Bradford is using, is that too small of an area or what's the purpose of building a whole new building?

Well, it's it's twofold really. Uh, yes, we have outgrown the space in there. We have both uh like my colleague Rick mentioned, we have operations of both the Evans and Macars, right? By consolidating them, we've outgrown both of those. By consolidate consolidating them into one site, it's going to one allow us more room to do the perform the necessary functions and two it takes uh traffic away from the main terminal complex as a sensitive area of the airport, right? Um whether it's whoever delivers to us, whether it's US food to co the beer, right? it right now it's coming it's in and around sensor areas of the earth what this does it moves it offsite approximate across the street and then it will allow us a space to grow and and and expand and and consolidates the operation which will provide some efficiencies and economies and with our operation

now and with your operation I know this is operational I don't have any but one question with in regards to the security aspect of it now when you send those trucks over to the terminal area. Will they be sealed once they leave Bradford or how does that work? Correct. And Rick, why don't you have that?

We do establish what we call a virtual secure uh delivery tunnel. All of our trucks are outfitted with geot trackers and also with six-sided um all four sides of the truck are under a DVR as well as in cab and in a cargo box. We have routes that are programmed into our systems so that if the truck deviates from the CRDC to its destination point, we are alerted that there is an issue. The trucks are sealed and they the documentation for that can be transmitted to a to the airport AOA checkpoint for vehicle entrance where they can perform the verification on site that the cargo box has not been tampered with in transit.

Thank you. Yeah. Um question. So I believe one of you gentlemen mentioned about screening. So that photo that's up there going down Wayne Road. You see those trucks there. So are you planning to have taller plantings to cover the truck? Cuz I'm assuming if you're anticipating more businesses maybe there. One of the things that we do try to do is that side review of truck docks is is kind of like a little issue for us. So, are you planning to put plantings there that will be tall so that would shield all of that?

Yes, that's correct. Um, our partners with CNS Engineering um have stated that there will be additional screening whether that's decorative fencing or walls or landscaping that will be able to screen the truck dock. So, you won't be able to see that from here. Thank you. Couple of comments. Um I guess I want to go over to Mr. Enos and the OM to see if they have any additional comments because it appears that you're lacking information similar that we situation we had in the previous petitioner.

Yes. Uh thank you, Mr. Chairman. I and I appreciate the the the applicant's very detailed presentation and and like our previous project. Uh I'm supportive of the of the resoning from a from a a master planning and more specifically the detail the the conditional use for the property. And you had a good question, Mr. Chairman. That was one of my questions is that we're leaving 30 plus acres available for uh zoned M2 and the applicant has indicated that and hopefully they will able to kind of move other business in there, but um they would have to come back before this body each and every single time to amend this request. So once this is built, if they were to put another one, they would have to come back and go through this same process. So even though the map may show with an asterisk on it uh zone M2, any future uses would have to come back before and go through this conditional reszoning process because as I said with the the other use, there are there are uses that really wouldn't fit at this gateway area. Um auto repair, things like that just don't that just don't fit the the idea of this area of the city. Um but this use does. And so, uh, that that was one of my bigger concerns that they would have to go through that process and that should be outlined in the the conditional, uh, agreement that I do think and Carol, I'll point out that does need some work. There are some there are some issues in there. There's some errors in there, uh, that need to be cleaned up a little bit. And, um, the plan, the site plan itself is a good start. Uh you certainly could I I think uh conditionally approve the the the reszoning when you're ready uh with the concept plan attached. Um and then in the future they would come back with a

much more detailed site plan. This may be as a little less uh intricate as the the redevelopment of the school. This is going to be a logistical building. It's going to be screened. It's going to have those kinds of things. whereas the other one had a lot of lot of other issues. So, uh when you're ready to when you're ready to allow this conditional resoning, you could tie in the the the concept plan itself um with the understanding that when they're ready to come back before us, they have to bring that site plan in much more detail. Those are those are my main issues and I don't our engineer had any.

But is you're stating though any other development on that parcel that's already reszoned will have to have its own conditional resoning request to tie over. It would have to come back with every single change. Will it be modifying the existing or adding another one?

You're modifi your opiates, you know, those first stated, second stated, those all those amendments. And depending on there's a lot of room for a lot more development. It's it's very very doable. It's just that this language in here needs to describe that process. So that and they have to make a decision whether they want to go through that with every development on the site because it's a planning commission public hearing and then off to city council. So there is some some timing there. So, it's something I think and and again part of this too is getting tied up with new legal counsel coming on board and um I think you know there's been some good comments already that can probably be addressed in the agreement but we'd really like to sit down with you and do some back and forth um again once new council gets involved um they may have a whole different take on you know they may have a whole whole new way to possibly solve this problem um

and it'll be a recordkeeping issue as well like I like I indicated I We're reszoning a piece of property that that allows it's going to say on the zoning map and I the city would typically what a community do would put an asterisk there so we know this is a unusual piece of property because once we're all gone or tired or whatever the case may be um that zoning map's going to show M2 and we want to know what that means and and so the records with the clerk and the planning department would have to to follow that and that's why the development that's why the agreement is so important to talk about that. You you may compare this to um back when you did it's it's the cajjoyan development you know Romulus Corpa Park when PNG Vistar came in you remember that piece of property had one development but you did a conditional resoning for the other the other two and then but the way that agreement was set up was so much more detail in it with regard to process that when building three came in and when Opus came in you just dealt with them as as a site plan and we go back to that agreement to you know so I mean we're very familiar with doing it it just hasn't just hasn't presented been presented in this one so because it's now involving I think when you came in it first was just the seven and a half acres wasn't it and then because it was part of a bigger parcel we said well you know if you're talking about expanding or anything else let's look at the whole thing but the agreement that this type of agreement didn't really match that So,

okay. Um, depending on how how the commission wants to handle this, we we can bring this if you do postpone it, we'll bring back a cleaned up agreement or if you want to have it handled administratively, those are your options. Ideally, in my mind, just me, I'd love to have the cleaned up agreement. be ideally it'd be great if we had a sightful site plan, but if we all we had is this concept

having having the process cleaned up, I think is is really going to help. Um, you think back at some of those other agreements and there's there are some site plan elements that are in there. The good news on this, we do have the southern gateway both in the master plan and in the zoning ordinance with some standards. So, it's rather than getting into a lot of those design elements that you may need to, it's already in the zoning ordinance, but the uses are important and as John says, there's there's a lot of uses in that M2 district you may not want in in this area. So, this area was that this was the the frontage, you know, when it when it uh you know, the C3 zoning, the hope was that it was going to get some service related uses to support some of the industrial that was coming. And, you know, maybe that will happen. you want to have have that flexibility um and having a an agreement um because we've seen it in you know the other side of the airport over inviting road you know we have a lot of that a lot of lot of opportunity depending on what comes in so

and I'm sorry I got caught up in the the land use and what our engineer was were you going to speak I through the chair I can just I can speak to the fact that there is um public infrastructure uh adjacent to the site that can serve the site for the proposed use that they are looking for at this time. So there's water sanitary and then the um the road frontages that they have um are adequate for what what they're currently proposing which is in my report but just a a opportunity to verbalize it. Okay,

perfect. Is there any other comments? to the chair. Other than just making a statement, um, as far as the airport go, me being a longtime Romulus resident, you know, I understand development down around the airport is good and everything for the populace, but you know, the airport itself as a uh entity that's operating on its own with the Wayne County Airport Authority, I don't feel is fair to the city of Romulus. And that's just a statement I want to make as far as um income and revenue. So other than that, that's just my uh personal viewpoint. I I I just uh have a problem with it, but that don't affect my decisions on the logistics around its operation. So thank you.

Okay. Yep. Uh through the chair. Yes. Um I I can't remember where I I read this, but you're anticipating receiving 39 trucks a day. Is that about right approximately? Yes. Okay. Is that just for inbound or inbound and outbound? That's for inbound. Outbound is significantly lower and outbound just goes across the street onto the airfield. Okay. But you have or you're proposing 10 docks for 39 trucks. How how do you anticipate they would come in?

Everything we do, we schedule dock time each and every vendor that ser serves the airport. They have their allocated dock time. Each of those drivers and vehicles is vetted, right? So we know who's showing up with what truck when. We assign them the dock times, right? They're that's very intentional for our operation and to help mitigate a lot of traffic at any given time.

Okay. Yeah. Because for me 39 trucks is is a lot. And you know, as much as we're trying to cut down on trucks, I I understand this is, you know, really away from residential areas, but I'm I'm just concerned with the number of docks for the number of trucks. except they'll be staged somewhere. Okay. Yes.

One of the things really that you need to consider is the fact that the less impact from vendor trucks is in the early hours. Most of the wareh distribution warehouses will start their operations at 2 or 3:00 in the morning. So our objective is to bring those trucks in as quickly and as early as possible. That's why we're looking at that many docks to be able to get the trucks in here and out of here before really rush hour ever starts. So the impact to the traveling public on public roadways is minimal at best. So if I understand you correctly, 10 trucks roll in maybe about 2:00 a.m. Boom, they're out within an hour, hour and a half. More likely our processing time for a 53 foot trailer is about 30 minutes.

Okay.

So when that comes in, you know, they're scheduled in, we go through our protocols, that is all met. They are then permitted to offload those goods and then we can go ahead and send that truck on its way. And then that just clears the way for us to keep coming in and to keep cycling people through. We're looking at that much interior space because once we go through our security protocols, we then store it and get it ready to be brought inwards to the airport because airport staff will generally not start that early. They will generally start rolling in around 5 6 a.m. and then we can go ahead and start feeding the airport with that with that material. So, it's structured in, structured back out. And again, it's meant to be the least disruptive to the public roadways and then also to any interference that we may encounter in terminal because that's still not that time of the morning, say from 5 to 5:00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m. for us to get in. That is still a good time for our vehicles to be on the airfield to make those deliveries with the least impact than to airport operations.

Okay. Yeah. I I also just want to make sure because as much as you're scheduling your operation, the the truckers are very random. So we we want to make sure that the truckers are not staging themselves on Romulus roads somewhere. They are not they are not permitted to. Okay. And we go through a very very detailed orientation with their distribution departments. We carry the weight of TSA behind us. Yeah. So we sit down and go this is how the security works for the airport and if in fact they do not comply they risk being being denied as a vendor. Yeah.

Okay. I I just wanted to make sure that that was stated so that the trucks don't find parking anywhere on our ancillary roads and feel like oh my time is 3:00 a.m. so I'll just park here for 30 minutes. like no, you know, you schedule your stuff from a truck stop, you know, somewhere. Okay. Um, very good. The other thing, um, is you said you had outgrown your two facilities, the one in McNarama, McNamara and, um, Evans. Evans.

Evans. Um, do you think this is Let me rephrase the question. What percentage of this building do you think you will be using? Do you think you'll be right at 80% capacity, 90% capacity? Because it seems to me that as the airport is growing and with this operation being so integral to the airport, this might not be enough. And I have a sense, I may be wrong, that this would probably expand from seven and take more acreage.

So to and and and thank you. Um and to to your point, we have looked at this and it's structured in a way right now it's 30,000 square feet and I will tell you um day one operate will use every last square foot of it, right? Um, we do have the ability to to scale it. We can add additional square footage, obviously going through the appropriate approval processes once um, Wayne County Airport Authority says, "Can you please look at this?" But to to uh, Mr. Free's point a moment ago, everything we do is so structured and you know those you talk about the trucks on the roadways right now, I mean, they're delivering to, you know, the Macar current, right? So, we're taking all that traffic out and we we have a lot more control over it. Um, but to your point about the facility size, yes, if we need to add on to it going through the appropal appropriate um permitting and approval processes, and I'm sure we would have to come back here, um, we can certainly do that.

Um, I would like to just add on to that that um, as the airport continues to grow, we obviously want to make sure we're not handcuffing ourselves. So we do have that ability. Uh Bradford has these CRDC's at airports across the world. And so this model that they have of the next generation CRDC is something that other airports are doing. And Bradford is the global leader in this space. U there are other companies that try to do it. We're very thankful we have Bradford and they've been here since the Mdayra opened. Uh so they know this business better than anybody and they know how big that facility needs to be now and also how to build it so that when we do need the additional capacity, we can add that again through the correct approval process.

You will need additional capacity. That's what I'm thinking. And and I feel it's like baked into the plan and you're not letting us know. But no, it for like what Mr. long said it's just a statement and my gut feel but that's all I got. Guess we'll work with what they give us on a site plan. Absolutely.

When this plan was developed, the plans that went into this, we obviously worked handinhand with the airport. So we use their we help use their master plan for what they're looking at for future employments from all existing airlines. And we built this facility its size to be able to handle what the airport currently is projecting for employments this year, next year, five years from now, 10 years from now. Will there come a time? I certainly hope so. That we'll come back to you and say we need to expand again. But we did take that into consideration in the design of this facility for the growth that we for the room that we need now and the growth that we need for the ne for the foreseeable future. Oh, one one last question through the chair. So, let's say you people bring in materials and it needs to be burnt, disposed of, you know, you find is there are you going to dispose of it on site or how do you handle that?

There there won't be any disposal of any um how would you call it? Um prohibited nefarious type items. anything that we would we would follow the the appropriate um state and you know local regulatory statutes to dispose of anything hazardous or things like that. Right. Typically that's we don't do that in our facilities. This is as we mentioned a moment ago um would be a a recycling hub for the airport. Cardboard and trash and waste and things like that. We can and we can do that in in different ways on the site. But anything hazardous or things like that we would and we do follow um any and all local, state, and federal guidelines and regulations.

Okay. Thank you, Mr. Jameson. Yeah, I just had one statement maybe question. So, from what I'm hearing is that the two locations that you currently have, um by closing those and moving it to this offsite, you're actually going to be reducing that traffic that happens around the airport as well. So that's actually going to be a better case for travelers, I'm assuming.

Correct. Much much better. It's all happening right now. So we remove that traffic. It helps improve flow on the on the terminal fronts and it keeps um items potential items that shouldn't be around sensitive areas of the airport out of the sensitive area. Will those buildings be reutilized? Those existing buildings. So the existing CRDC's that are in the terminals will be repurposed. It it basically is very valuable square footage inside the terminal that we will then be able to either uh lease out or provide to other concessionires or for other purposes that are better served inside the terminal. Thank you.

Any other comments? Um, and like I said, uh, after s being around Bradford, they are very efficient operation. You are you do good work over there. You do good work. And, um, as far as your recycling efforts and until you mention it, I've never seen a problem out there with all the commerce that you all do with, um, your logistics of bringing things in and all of that. Never seen a problem with um, recycling. And that's good that it hasn't never been mentioned or brought up because you are so efficient. So, thank you. Thank you. We appreciate it.

Thank you. Is there a motion? So, one more one more question to Carol. Do you see um anything we need to do as a commission to before we move forward with this here? Um no. Well, I think they they gave a great presentation. You guys had some good questions and I think once we get these holes filled in, we'll be moving along smoothly. And all of those will be done through administrative wise. We will do it work on it administrative, but it will come back to you. Well, depending on what your motion is. If we postpone it bill,

if we postpone it, it would come back to you. If you guys want to see how it shakes out, it's it's up to us to decide whether we want to be involved and see the final product of all the information put together into another packet that we vote on or do we want to just take it, let them go do it administratively and we don't see it again. That's what we have. You will see a detailed site plan, right? Come back and you probably Well,

oh, it's your call. Uh three chair I have a question for Jessica. Um on your OM report uh number two you said we do not recommend a traffic impact study be required for the whole site at this time as typically is provided for a conditional reasoning. It is our recommendation that as additional phases are proposed on the property in question uh and then you go through some stuff but um part three you said the applicant should note that city reserves the rights to require a new traffic study. So you

do you are you recommending a traffic study or not? So look at what the southern gateway says. He mentioned through gateway. Are you are you following that standard?

Um that's is only language. So that my my comment did not take into account that but I will address sorry I wanted to read that I will address that right now uh a conditional reasonzoning typically when we've seen it has done a traffic impact study for all the acreage that's being reszoned at this point um everything else is speculative um outside of that seven acres. So, we are saying that we do not um feel that the reasonzoning at this point would require um a traffic impact study on the rest of that acreage. That acreage should be studied once we know who the user is. Um a speculative traffic impact study um leaves a lot for interpretation and it it did it would not give us a lot of additional benefit or information at this time. Um the our comment number three basically stated that if the um user were to change from Bradford and the operations would change, we would want to see an additional traffic study, traffic impact study at that time. Um reading the ordinance for the southern gateway and this property all falls in the southern gateway. then it does ask that a traffic impact study be completed. However, um during the site plan review phase, I think that we can take a look at it and state that the the study that they did complete or the analysis that they did complete um we would do a further dive

into it and see if any additional mitigations need to be done. Um, at this time I don't see any additional mitigations that need to be done on Wing Road or on Eureka Road. Does that answer the question? Yeah, it it kind of suggests that you don't need you're not recommending a traffic impact study, but you're also leaving it open that it might be required if it grows. If it grows

upon growth, yes, it's going to be required. So based on the operation of the 7 acre 39 trucks just for inbound, I mean outbound, we really don't know yet. You don't think?

Well, they they do have a generation and um the in the packet it is. the TM Gilbane um Fishbach um did provide a technical memo that did an analysis on the traffic generated from the site and we are in agreement with the um conclusions that that memo is. It's not a flowable full-blown uh study. It's a traffic impact analysis. You mean this page here?

Um that's part of it, but the on my packet. It starts on page 130 and it starts it's a fishback technical memo. Okay. And they do talk about the um the proposed trips in and out during a day. So the vendor trucks they are proposing will be uh 78 trips during the whole day. So it's the 39 um in and the 39 out. And then they are proposing that the Bradford Logistics will have 40 trips a day

in and out. And that's so that's on page um Yep. That's this one here. Page four. Page four. Yes. So we did do a review of this um trip analysis and we we do concur with their recommendations and their results. So either way, they're still going to come back to us um Carol for a site plan. Okay. So whether or not we do anything now, they still have to come back. Yes. Okay.

Mr. Chairman. Yes, Mr. Blfield. I'm prepared to make a motion that we postpone this reszoning for RZ-2025-00004 for Bradford Logistics. There's been a motion by Mr. Lapfelty to postpone RZ2025004 Bradford Logistics. Is there a support? Support. Supported by Mr. Long. Roll call. Mr. Glfelty. Yes. Mr. Long. Yes. Miss Rosco, yes.

Miss Jes, are you still thinking? I am I'm still thinking. Okay. Can you come back to me? Mr. Bad. Yes. Mr. Green. Yes. I vote yes. Now we'll come back. We got clover. It doesn't matter, but I'll vote no. Okay. Motion carried. This has been postponed.

Thank you. Next public hearing we have item C is our master plan update and this is um for our future land use map and that's part of our packet and this is I'm going to turn this over I think Mr. you know to discuss that. Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, commissioners. And um

this is not something uh new to you. We've had a several meetings. Uh Carol wrote a nice detailed memo on the process. We've um talked about these different maps, these bubble maps. Um, it's one of the first times we've done this in a master plan. So, we kind of like the way that it it worked out for the city in this case because it kind of tells the story of what is being requested or to be changed. And uh much of this is just making things uh work in regards to what the use is out there. The public the the public uses uh are being more clarified. uh the school uses are being kind of uh evolved into the surrounding land uses the the single family where those are typical uh where those changes and then we've got some uh we've got some larger opportunity areas uh that would be part of this future land use plan. So you're you're being requested tonight to take a look at um the future land use map to bump this up to city council. Um, the one thing I kind of wanted to bring up is that we're looking at some areas and I thought this would be an appropriate time to talk about this because I know it's it's it's in the news these days and I unfortunately have to work in working with three communities that have these data centers. So, you may have been reading and following the data center world right now where it is pretty contentious and controversial. And in fact, um, uh, Augusta Township to your to your west, Selen Township to your west, uh, have these, uh, proposed as well. And ifi township, as you've seen. Um, and I reason to say the reason I say that is because we do have, uh, we do have public water. Um, I don't know if we have the right areas in regards to electrical uh, conduits and substations.

Uh, but I took a look at our ordinance and it does allow computer and data facilities in four of our zoning districts and those are our office districts, our M1 or M2 and also our research district. So that they are permitted users, not even special land uses. And you know, when you have a permitted use, that's a hard one to turn down if it's not uh if it doesn't uh if it meets the ordinance requirements. I so I guess what I'm saying is this is twofold. I would I'm recommending that the uh the future land use map be bumped up to uh city council and we can move forward with those changes. Those are these are all important, but also you may as a commission, now this would be a council decision, uh, and your neighbors to the south just did this last Wednesday, uh, in Heron Township, uh, put a six-month moratorum on data centers so that they could, uh, research the use, uh, develop draft language for the use, uh, to make it more appropriate. And I don't know how the I know the technolog is changing. If you read about the one in Selen Township, uh that one is going to that's a different animal. It's going to have water that's that it's it's not going to need the the amount of water that some of these others are using. It's going to re recharge the water. I'm not sure the specifics of it, but uh again, it's it's it's this guy who's coming down the road and we we have some very uh simplified language in our ordinance and I think it may make sense. Again, this would be a council decision and and perhaps planning commission through our new attorney to put a moratorum on these uses. So, that's kind of an aside, but I think it's important because we do have properties in the city that could possibly be uh proposed for those and and you may it and I'm not I'm not

saying I'm not for or against them at this point. I just know that they're a they're they're a major issue. They're a major use of potentially water, electricity, uh but they are also a significant generator of tax revenue, uh employees, um construction, and at least what I'm finding, they're they're relatively low inensive if designed right. That's why they that's why they get these, you know, 2, three, 400 acre parcels, put them in the mid. So, that's that's my comments. Uh guys, if you have any questions, I'm happy to answer them. Otherwise, you can um make if you feel like you want to make a motion to move this forward.

My my own comment is that I feel we need to identify what part of the city we'd want to see this kind of development before somebody decides to stake a claim under us and we don't have control of it. So, you know, I don't think we have the authority to do a moratorum. That has to come from legislative. That's awesome.

But I do think we need to get ahead of this, maybe have this moratorum so that we can then develop a policy of where we're going to put this in within our master plan or with our zoning and figure that out, giving us the best chance of identifying that proper area. Can we go back to some are if we're are we in master plan discussion because we need to open the we need to open the public hearing.

Okay. This time I'll open the public hearing to the public. If there's anybody who wishes to talk about the master plan seeing no one bear in mind we do have an affidavit of first class mail for this and I'll close that out. Go back to discussion.

Thank you the chair. Um question I have it on the um moratorum. Um you said like 6 months. Do we really think six months would be enough to develop that process and a policy? I mean I I know from experience um it's usually taken us longer than 6 months to do that and then we end up extending the moratorum. But that's just a comment for now. Uh something to think about once we get to that point of um wanting to bring that and and uh approach that with um

timing too with new legal council coming on board. Yep. I just think it would take long in my opinion and in past and it may it would take longer than six months. It may it and and because I'll tell you I guess my my reasoning would be that we're a little we're we're more of an urbanized community than where you see a lot of these other ones being proposed and uh we've drafted a we've drafted a model ordinance um that's been vetted by some attorneys. So at least we've got a we've got a got a start for you. Oh good. Okay. Json. Yeah.

Yeah. Actually I think a moratorum is probably the best thing to do. We absolutely need more research. Um I do have a client of mine who's familiar with these. He um works with the massive energy used from DTE and he talked about the amount of uh electricity that these things use but also the proximity of where they are. Um it can be a little dangerous. Uh their carbon footprint is huge and they use a ton of resources. Um, it is a problem globally, but it's a problem that we probably need to resolve because they're going to be showing up some of everywhere because of AI uses a ton of energy and their carbon footprint is absolutely horrible. So, um, it is a concern and I agree with you 100% that we need to probably think about that and research and decide where we want it versus where somebody wants to stick it and then we got to deal with it. Um, so my other question is you mentioned that there are four areas that could possibly house this and you mentioned that it could be a tax resource. Are those TIFFA districts or not? Because we have to make sure that people understand taxes are not all the same. Uh, when they're general fund taxes and TIFFA fund taxes, we need to make sure people understand that's clear. Don't just say we get taxes. We need to make sure where the taxes are going because the tiffer taxes are not general taxes. We need general taxes a lot of it. So

yes and and Carol and I are looking at what I when I said the four those are four I don't know the the lo specific locations but there are at least four zoning districts that allow for it and that's your industrial your commercial and the office districts because it I think when we formulated this language I guess nobody a lot of people didn't because a lot of my ordinances don't have it is you know it just says you know computer center they didn't understand the the the monster in the room, right? Yeah. They didn't anticipate data centers when they thought about computer centers. It is totally two different beasts. Um Yeah. So,

so you you you could have the if if the commission prefers, you could move the map to the future land use maps to the council and also make a motion to for them to look into a moratorum on we have a council member here. moratorum on the uh on the allowance of data centers while we research that and then the attorney can draft that resolution and hand it there.

But process-wise, so the way our process works here, you adopt the master plan in any amendments. The city council has also asserted their right to adopt it. So it's not a recommendation. You would be making a motion tonight to adopt the future land use map amendments. Yep. That's that's a motion. And then you'd probably want to make a second motion to you just said for the not and I and I had it wrong in my you know kind of by habit recommend city council. Wait a second. I think it's request. We will request that the city council investigate a investigate a mortorium. Yeah.

Okay. Um question through the chair. Is it um possible for us to move this data center or computer however it's worded away from the M1 M2 into special land use kind of like just oh that's that's what would happen pull that out that what would happen

so that no one feels like oh they see an M1 they jump on it and they want to throw a couple of servers there and say no no I mean apart from the fact you know that it can be used for data centers. All these cryptocurrencies too they they use huge electricity um for these um operations. So,

you know, it's just a suggestion to say if there's that possibility to pull it out of there into special land use so that when it comes before us, if it does, we can go through it with a fine tooth comb and say it's it's much easier to regulate and or deny a a special land use, as you know, than a permitted land use. And and right now, these are permitted. So, I would strongly that when we get to that point, it it be depending where we want to put it, it also becomes a special land use.

However, in the M1 district, if the building was greater than 80,000 square feet, it'd be a special land use. So, um we need to in terms of the master plan, um you guys were all okay with everything. Is that what I'm hearing? If you're Wait, are we talking the land use future land use map or

Right. So, we had a public hearing. I think we closed it out without much discussion. Um, but tonight you're here tonight. The the master plan went out for distribution for 42 days. We had a couple comments on it. Um, several comments were just acknowledging it. Marcus Tommy actually from the airport authority who was here earlier had some comments as it related to the noise section, but uh those comments are in there and not really impacting any of the changes that you had on there. But what you're looking at tonight is basically taking these bubbles in these changes and putting them on your it would be an updated future land use map

map. Now that's separate from this draft text amendment. Correct. Tonight what I have concerns, right? Just the map. Okay. Tonight we're going to deal just with the map. M. Jameson. Yes. So, I just wanted to reiterate um the one issue that I do have and that's you the one that's on here. Number three, we got so much other land that's in the city that could be used for things. Which map for number three? The one that's currently up on display. Okay. Yep. Map three. The one that's currently up on display. Okay.

The tower property because that backs up to Beverly and I'm I know the last time it was mentioned that it would be screening. there would be no exit. I kind of feel like the first homeowner who stepped up here and talked about a slippery slope. I kind of feel like eventually they're going to say, "Well, there's only one way in and one way out over that parcel would be great. If we can just maybe make an exit out of Beverly, then at some point that exit from Beverly becomes, well, maybe we can actually do a little bit more." Beverly is not a road that can handle any more traffic because it's already a hot mess over there. And you got homeowners that are on the back and the the north side of that to the to the north, the west, and the east. I already know that there are some homeowners that are not happy about the thought of anything backing up to Beverly because it is a hot mess over there. I live over there, so I'm really partial to that. Um, and we got so many other pieces that we could do something with. I don't think we need to do something with that right now. I mean in the future 101 15 years we max out all the other opportunities for businesses to come then maybe and that thing is still sitting there. I know they said it's hard to develop and do other things with but I'm not a fan of that one. So I'll never say yes to that one but um I just think that that's probably not the best use because we got other things that can be done and ecourse is already a hot mess. Now, have we expanded that or done anything additional with that? No. So, putting something on the other side of ecourse across from Amazon, I don't think that's a smart thing either. Not at this point. So, I do have issues with that part of our map, but I said that the last time, so I'll reiterate it because I still have the issue.

So, the one component that you're seeing here is just the, you know, kind of the expansion of the regional se or the regional business district going up that way with an overlay option. the overlay option exists today. It's in it's in the zoning ordinance. What would happen is that um expanding into other areas. In the future, it's very likely that a tech um map amendment here would prompt a text amendment to the zoning ordinance that could have restrictions. For example, no access on onto Beverly Road. Um significant setbacks, buffering. I mean, all sorts of stuff that you guys had talked about when you went through round one of Vining Road. Now, it's it's incorporating a different area. So, you may have some other factors, you know, later on that you want to look at. So,

and I I don't disagree, Jameson, in regards to some of those concerns. I think when the as as we work through this process over the last six months, we took a lot of look at a lot of different studies and a lot of different uh suggestions. is the Michael Baker ecourse road uh study that the city did. Um and I and I I kind of want to echo specifically what the city planner Carol had to say is that um this parcel remains as is it it's not it's not reszoned. We're not reszoning it. this the they would have to go through that uh specific process with the public hearing um and all the neighbors notified and to go through that process of attaching whether it's special land use or permitted land use um and or uh text amendments to that district that binding road overlay district as well. And so that's where that's where we we're suggesting that hey this this could work here uh with the right use and the right design characteristics. Uh but there are a lot of things that could there could go there that could be a problem. That's why um it would it's going to require a reszoning. So

yeah, it's just that language sometimes it makes me uncomfortable. It's uh not definite. It's could possibly would maybe in the future we might um you know it's it's not an exact thing which which makes me feel like for now but later it could become a problem. So um anyway those are my comments about that.

At this point you're looking for two separate motions. One would be the motion to rec to adopt the future land use map and that'll kick it up to city council for their adoption for theirs. Yep. Um the other is a request for city council to place a moratorum on all data data center uses for period undetermined period. So those are our two choices. I make a motion that we suggest to city council to put a moratorum on data centers.

Okay. And is there a possibility of moving it to special land use? Is that a support? Sorry. No, I'm just We had a discussion. We're just in the middle of Sure. Support. Okay. Motion by Miss Jameson, support by Mr. Bare to place request city council place a moratorum now you a discussion additional question in the motion yeah just to see

yeah with your special land use um it's just that's a process so this is a bigger a bigger picture thing and um you know it's probably best you know in terms of what your kind of ordinances are um yeah that would to look at some bigger picture things with location and um

yeah if the if the council says hey we agree with you we're going to put a mortorium and they charge you planning commission to say hey uh take a look at this or take a look at some ordinance language that's when we start we sharpen our pencils and we get going on the uh special land use where it'd be located heights uh setbacks um all these design criteria that we can tie in as a special land use so That's um I don't want to make more work for you, but that's that's if the council decides to do that, that'll be the next step for you. Any other discussion, Mr. Jim?

Yeah. So, with that though, not that part for the research to for the moratorum. How does that research part work and will that be strictly for city council or will planning commission have an opportunity to have some of that information? So, great question. and you've just gone through one. So, last January, city council adopted an or uh yeah, established a moratorium on gas stations.

So, it was gas stations specifically. It gets pushed over to planning commission. We spent weeks and weeks and months and months. Um while we were amending that section of the ordinance, we noticed several other vehicle uses in that whole section needed to be cleaned up. You had how many back and forth seeing draft language? We play with it. Um the attorney very involved. Um I you guys you guys Yeah. ideas and so yes so council council will dictate and then we will be then we make the sausage then we make the sausage charged with doing it right. Okay. Um any other discussion on that roll call vote. Miss Jameson yes.

Mr. Bobo yes. Mr. Bli. Yes. Mr. Long. Yes. Miss Rosco. Yes, Mr. Green. Yes. And chair vote? Yes. That motion's carried. Now we have to decide if what motion we're making for the adoption of future land use to the chair. Mr. Love when we proposed this to our neighbors uh on our master plan did we have any uh feedback from or any of the others

the ones um it's included in your packet from Marcus Tommy from the airport authority he's got a list um and he only basically on a couple pieces of property he issues or he he gives a statement about whether the property falls outside or inside the the noise zones. So, it's kind of a long memo, but that's really what it's saying. So, um and there's really not an impact on necessarily those properties, there's already language in the narrative of the master plan that addresses noise zones. What we're hoping to do is once they do get their contour map updated and once we get into a bigger part of the zoning ordinance um getting that overlaid on the land use map, the future land use map to sort of see where those contour lines are. The the other ones basically just acknowledged that they got it. So some cog, we included theirs in. They have tools that they said they could help us with, but as far as the other ones again, they just sort of acknowledged it. A

lot of no comments. Just acknowledging that they received it, but not a lot of commentary back. I told the Hiron Township Planner to make sure they say they like it. So, okay. And any other conflicts that uh um Mr. Tommy addressed. Do we have a problem? No, they're No, I actually spoke to him today, too. The couple areas that are on here are just outside of that, but uh they they are working with the city on those couple areas, too. If there's a possibility to develop residential so that we could allow that, and they are helping with that.

Another question from Seeing no action on the motion.

Chair, I I would like to say like just to talk about with Edna on the one area you're talking about off Ecourse Road. I I I know that's been looked at. It's been zoned residential for a very long time. uh obviously it's never been developed. It's uh very difficult property. I know this with the Beverly access there and there can be language and stuff drafted for that that with the wetlands to the north side of that property and everything that's there, there would be uh no access to Beverly Road and that this is also just a the ecourse road corridor talked about like the widening of the road. Also talked about a catalyst development that could help help with that, help with some of those things. um kind of took that into account and anything that would be proposed to ever go in there would have to get a conditional reasoning, would have to do a site plan, would have to come in and get approval

unless they were in that district. The regional business uses um you know there's that little that little chart in in your ordinance. um if it's a permitted use in the the ones the regional center uses are allowed the commercial uses and then in that on that side of Vining Road um there's there's some very light industrial uses not a warehouse distribution is not a permitted use as Jeff says if you did have a request for that it would go through condition resoning at this time so you'd have a lot of control over it Mr. Chairman. Yes. I'm ready to make a motion. Yes, sir. Mr. Lely, do

we move forward on this master plan update? We recommend the city council. We approve what we've been presented in promise. Adoption. Okay. We You don't make a recommendation on city council. You get to adopt it. So, the motion should be to adopt it. To adopt the future land use map. Revise that. Yes, I'll advise. Thanks for changing my language. It's been a long day. Is there a support? Support motion by Mr. Kop Feltis supported by Mr. Baba to adopt the future land use map for the master plan. Any other discussion? Roll call. Mr. Lapelty.

Yes. Mr. Babad. Yes. Mr. Long. Yes. Miss Rosco. Yes. Miss Jameson, nay. Mr. Green, yes.

Chair vote yes. Motion carries. Thank you. Next agenda item we have is turn the back of here. JK Industrial. They are northeast corner of JK Drive in Cogwell. SPR 2022. They're looking for a final site plan extension.

You petitioner. Good evening. My name is Neil Mlan. Good evening. Excuse me. My my address is 10 office address is 1021 Libero Avenue, Ferndale, Michigan 48220. Okay. And you're requesting another extension? Yes. This will be your final extension. Do you anticipate having success?

Yeah. Yeah. uh you know between the interest rates, the building cost and the tariffs have caused companies that want to move in to pause to try to see how their business looks. And so it's been I own a number of buildings in Romulus and I pay a lot of taxes in Romulus and uh try to take good care of my buildings here and I think a lot of a few people that uh so we're trying really hard to get a good company in here but just with some of the things going on companies seem to be very tentative right now on expanding and a number of companies do because of with with an obstacles that they're faced with in the marketplace.

And you just as long as you're clear that next time you'll start over again. Yeah. Okay. Understood. Is there a motion? I do have a question. Yes. What's the ex extended through what point? Is it a year from now? It'll be extended to December 30 of 2026. Okay. So 12 month. Yes. I'd like to make a motion that we approve the final site plan extension for JK Industrial SPR 2022-012. Support. Support. Support by Mr. Long. Any further discussion? Roll call vote. Mr. Blackfelty. Yes.

Mr. Long. Yes. Mr. Green. Yes. Miss Rosco. Yes. Miss JSON.

Today's the day. It's just that kind of day for me. Okay. So, I'm going to say no because the last general we only gave him six months. So, I just want that was due to the new ordinance. Yeah, I know. Mr. Yes. And chair votes yes. You've been granted. Thank you very much. and thank everyone up there for all the good work you guys. Good luck with you. Good luck. Thank you.

Thank you. Next item is SPR 2023 012 project Wayne. They are also looking for a site plan extension address is 37685 Vanborn Road for development of 29,375 multi-tenant office warehouse cross dock. Yes sir.

Hi good evening. I'm Chris Kajjoin with the join companies 39400 Woodward Avenue in Hills. Um we are asking for this final site plan extension. We are currently under contract, which I didn't put in my letter because I had to confirm that I was allowed to say that publicly. Um, we're under contract right now going through due diligence. So, we do anticipate this project moving forward in 2026, which we're very excited about. That's awesome. Good. So, are we? Yeah. We are, you know, final extension and we won't be coming back through to start the process again for permits. And this will be extending you out till January of 27 based on the expiration. based on your expiration date. Correct. So January 27th. Is there motion?

Mr. Chairman, Mr. Black, I'd like to approve the extension final site extension for SPR 2023-012 for project Wayne. Support. Support motion by Mr. Glopfelty supported by Mr. Long for approval of extension for SPR 2023 012 project Wayne. Any discussion? Miss Jimson. Yeah. Is this his last extension? Last extension. Okay. So, is there a reason for the previous ones?

Yeah. So, it's similar to all the developers in the area. It's the construction costs, interest rates. The market since we originally came in is completely different um than when we started this this process. But we've developed a number of buildings in Romulus that have all been very successful projects are very tasteful, beautiful projects, well landscaped, wellmaintained. Um, and that's our intention with this one as well. So, it's it was delayed. It took a lot longer than we we thought it would. Um, but same as our other projects, we've stuck with it to to get to the conclusion. And you're you're pretty confident that this will actually bake it through.

We we've been going through um met more than six months of due diligence. Um, at this point, it's just getting through the process to get everything approved internally for this company um and then to be able to come into the city. So, I'm very confident uh again if this did not go through and the deal fell through for some reason, they backed out, uh we would have to come back in for a new site plan approval and restart the process. Thank you. But I I will say it's a large company that it's, you know, it's a bureaucracy to go through those approvals for them. Um so that's where it's takes them some time to get that. That's why we're asking for the 12-month extension from the date of our expiration. Thank you. Okay. Any other discussion? Roll call vote. Mr. Blapfelty,

yes. Mr. Long, yes. Mr. Green, yes. Mr. Poade, yes. Miss Rosco, yes. Miss Jameson, yes. And Chair Boas. Motion carries. Good luck. Thank you all. Have a great night. Okay, what do we have? Next item is new business. We have none PC cases involving advisor input from the planning commission.

Well, we do have one one thing to see if you noticed on coming up under your next thing under your reports on interest designation. Do you like this new format? We thought we would break it apart and have the city council leazison give her a report, then the board of appeals liaison, which is soon to not be vacant, and then the other interest designations. take. What do you think of this on your agenda number 10? Rather than just lumping it all together, it gives a little bit of order to it. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Well, seem like that's the way we doing already with the Yeah, that's the way we we've been doing it.

You do it that way. Miss Ros always goes first and then you know I wouldn't want to get in front of that. No, not at all. Okay. The next is Okay, listen, Miss Rosco.

All righty. Well, I don't I don't have a whole lot tonight, which everybody will be glad about. Um, first of all, I want to say happy holidays to everybody. Merry Christmas. New Year's is coming up. And with that being said, the city offices here are going to be closed for extended periods of time. So for the week of Christmas, um, city offices will be closed the 24th, 25th, and that Friday, the 26. Will not reopen till Monday. And then again for New Year's, it's going to be closed on uh New Year's Eve, 31st, and New Year's Day, and then again on that Friday. Uh, so, you know, mark your calendars. If you've got city business to take care of, we're going to be closed

Friday after the new year will be they'll be open. Oh, unless Yeah, that's cuz it's the day after Christmas that we're closed, but the second I believe they're open. Okay. I know my building's open. The building department. Okay. Well, that's good to know. But, um, the way it looks on the calendar, it looks like they're closed on that Friday, too. all. So, but anyways, just mark your calendar. If you got business the day after New Year's, I guess maybe we'll be here. But other than that, those days are other days are closed.

Um, other than that, um, the only other thing I want to bring up is that they are planning uh the curling royale again this year in January. It's going to be on January 17th. Of course, that's a Saturday. Uh, they're looking for teams. Um, and if you don't have a team of four, you can always uh just come out and uh by yourself and you know, you'll put you together with other people that want to play. Uh, you don't have to be experienced. Um, is what they're saying. Uh, just come out and have a good time. Registration uh begins at noon. Uh, it's $100 per team or $25 per person. And again, all these proceeds will go to help fund the Great Lakes Burn Camp for kids. Great cause. Um, and they always have a lot of good fun out there. Um, if you need more information, it's on the city's website or you can call 734-9427545. And um, of course, this uh, event is weather permitting. Right now, everything's froze. We'll see what happens in in a month from now. But if if it doesn't um pan out for the 17th, they do have it scheduled for the next Saturday, the 24th. But come out, support a good cause. And if you don't want to come out and play, come on out and watch. Uh and again, uh they always have um some vendors out there with refreshments and snacks and food and whatever for donations and um but always, like I said, it's a good time. So, come on out. And other than that, that's all I have. Just uh be safe and have good holidays. Thank you. Um let's see. We got a board of appeals. Well, I want to do say I

want to welcome Mr. DeAndre Green who's migrated up from the ZBA to join us up here in the planning commission. Welcome aboard. Um any other interest designations that need want to talk? Item 11, communication. We have our project status report in our packet. If anybody's got any questions on that in that regard with our projects, um the Wednesday, January 21st meeting, so both January and February because of the holidays, you meet on the Wednesdays. Uh we don't know if you've got anything for the 21st yet.

We'll see what we've got a ton of stuff that's come in, but um not sure that you know things are going to be ready. So you may or may not have a meeting on the 21st. Stay tuned. January is a good one not to have. Yeah. Plus we always get confused with it being on a Wednesday. So all right. Next item we have a German. So moved. Motion by Miss Jameson. support to Mr. Long. Roll call. Miss Jameson. Yes. M. Long. Yes. Mr. Bob. Yes. Mr. Bluffy. Yes. Mr. Green. Yes. We miss Rosco. Yes. Chair vote.