Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

meeting for Monday, November 17th will now come to order. Please rise for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Okay. Good evening. Um, since our last meeting in September, we've had a terrible loss of our fellow commissioner Jerry Frederick, who also served on the zoning board of appeal as chairman. And we will really miss him. And at this time, I'd like to request that we have a moment of silence. Thank you. Next roll call.

Roll call. Uh, Mr. Glutfelt excused. Mr. Mcanelli present. Mr. Long present. Miss Rosco here. Miss Jimson here. Mr. Crover here. Muade is here. Uh, Miss Fright excused. And Mr. Frederick is forever excused and in our hearts and prayers. Next item, approval of agenda.

So moved. support motion by Miss Jimson, supported by Mr. Long. Is there any discussion? Roll call. Miss Jimson, yes. Mr. Long, yes. Mr. Kova, yes. Mr. Bobade, yes. And I also vote yes. Motion carried. Next is the approval of the minutes from our meeting held on Monday, September 15, 2025. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion to approve the minutes.

Support. Motion by Mr. Cro, supported by Miss Jennison. Is there any discussion? Roll call. Mr. Krova. Yes. Miss Jennison. Yes. Mr. Long. Yes, Miss Rosco. Yes, Mr. Bobo. Yes. And I vote yes. Motion is approved.

And next, we have comments from the public on non-aggenda items. Seeing, is there anybody in the audience that's here to speak on something that's not on our agenda? Seeing nobody, move on to public hearings. We have none. Item seven, old business, SPR 2022-00001, global truck repair. Um, they're here for a an extension of their site plan approval. Is there somebody here representing them?

He has something, so I just show up. Okay. Could we get your name and address for the record? Yes, my name is Hhabib Almeyahi and the address is uh 28176 EO course Global Chuck Repair. Okay. And you are looking for an extension. Yes. Now, we just passed a zoning text amendment and it was approved by city council. Correct. That allows us to give a one-year extension. Correct.

But yet, I'm seeing here that you're saying, "No, let's do six month." Yes. We both of these that you're seeing tonight are unique and they're unique in their their own ways. Um, this one should be set to go. They've got some few cleanup things to do on the site plan, but they should be in engineering. They've already Yeah, I was going to say I I can kind of explain this one a little bit. I know they come in and once they saw you guys, they got a conditional approval. Um, they worked through the process to get a tree and woodlands permit to clear part of the lot. This was back

a year ago, I'd say. clear part of the lot to get ready and then they were going to uh move forward and submit for engineering and um the lot was cleared and then now nothing's nothing's moved. Do you have an update on kind of where things are? I mean we just cleaned it all. So hopefully on the 26th beginning we going to start something. So the reason why we just laid because uh when I applied for the loan it was that 24 is not enough income. So they say 25 I'm going to raise it up. So that's the reason that money issue that's all

but we ready for it. So, we just are recommending now that there is just this this one-year period breaking it up and if after six months if they don't have a permit pulled then they just come back and see you for another six months. But we think they can they can Are we anticipating just ignoring the ordinance? No, no. It's just that the the first two that have come in have already activity. Again, they're unique. This one's got a tree clearing permit already. Yes. And then you'll hear the story about the second one, you know, afterwards. So, we don't anticipate coming next time for an extension say, "Well, we want this one to be three months or we want this one to be No, they only have 12 months. It can only get 12 months."

So, it's going to stay within the guise of the or right. It's because it's it's we need them to get going. We've, you know, they've cleared property, so it's ready. It's ready for development. There's no reason why they shouldn't be able to submit engineering and get those appropriate permits that they need. Are you agreeable to that? I mean six months because you know the new year is going to start the tax and all the things like in April. So really that's not enough time to get everything from the bank. So that's why we you know ask to be here so that way we have time. Is the property for sale? I mean the reason why I just put that one looking for the partner. Okay. So we're getting calls on it that the property is for sale.

Yeah. We just like looking for a partner if there's anything happen. Okay. And we not get the loan. So that at least we got partner we can build with it through the chair. Yes.

And if you want and if with and I know the ordinance states 12 months and if we want if you want if we want to give them the extension for 12 months maybe and just get an update at 6 months or something submitted within that time frame. I just don't want to like with this one it started and we thought we were going to get a development there. I had some issues with the neighbors over on Birchdale, but they did help rectify those. Um, and I just they they all thought there were going to be need development with a fence down that side and everything like that and then nothing's moved now since since that approval. So, I'm just trying to make sure we keep try to keep things moving.

Well, let me just ask a couple more questions. So, if we say, "Okay, here's we're going to give you tenative proof for 6 months." Do they have to come in and spend more money to come back before us to get the request the additional six months? They do. Unless we look at it and I don't know, Jeff, what do you think about that? Well, unless we can if we give them 12 If you give them the extension for 12 months and then in six months we look at it. If they're moving forward and we know there's plan by then there should be plans submitted within six months for sure. As long as they got something submitted within that six-month time frame, then that would extend that to 12 months. And we could could we do that administrative?

Yeah, just do it. It's not a new request. It's just coming in for a status update. So, what if what if it was a extension for 12 months, but but something has to be submitted for review? We need a status at 6 months. So, you're saying we could do a motion to grant a 12-month extension pending a sixmonth update on progress? Yep. Perfect. That would be perfect. Perfect. Yeah, that makes sense. Okay. Is there any other discussion? Yeah. Through the chair.

If you It seems like you really believe that they are making progress or anticipating to make progress. Is 6 months enough or do you want an update at 3 months or four months or is 6 months?

So, so actually they're not making the progress that we like. they they they've cleared property, so they're getting it ready for development. However, the site plan that you approved needs some minor modifications and it hasn't been submitted. So, just as we talked about last time when we were making this ordinance amendment, we have all their stuff all over the place. It's still out. It's still open. It's active and they're just cleanup things to get to get this

to Carol's point, the train woodland permit was issued in July of 24 and then not we haven't seen any other movements since since. So I I would suggest a three months followup because it seems like they are just dragging their feet for whatever reason. You want them to get going. They're dragging their feet for whatever reason. And I think 6 months is just a long time for them to continue to drag their feet. If we really need them to get going, then you know they have 90 days to either say what they want to do. you know, yeah, we'll grant them the 12-month extension, but in three months, we need to see something. Are you doing this or not?

To what value? We have no leverage to to do anything in 3 months. That is the way I understand it except a check-in to see if any progress have been made at all.

That's why we in six months it's very reasonable they could get a revised site plan in, cleaned up, get engineering in, and be ready to pull a building permit by spring, by May. That's a very very normal process and we get it that they're trying to sell maybe sell the property or and that that way you come they come back in May and they say hey look at we got a deal somebody else is buying it they're going to finish it up and off we go. Then we're not holding on to it for another six months. This way it it gets them doing what they need to do um with the ability to come back and ask for another six months. There could be complications in there that but this way it keeps it rolling. So okay

we we have to you know yeah I'm sorry what I'm concerned about is how do we deal with a challenge if we are challenged on you said 6 months the ordinance says 12 months.

Oh the ordinance says they can ask and you then can come up with anything in between. If you feel that there's and again we're going to have a a similar discussion on the next one. These properties have had activity happen on them. Most of the time when people are coming in asking for these extensions, property hasn't been touched. Well, this property has been touched. There's neighbors there. You know, the expectation is you granted approval. You gave them a conditional approval um back whenever that the expectation was they were going to clean up those site plans, continue moving get get engineering going while they were working on some of this other stuff. But now we're getting calls from other people interested in the property. So, you know, we're having to tell people, well, yeah, it's not really complete. They don't they technically don't even have a complete site plan approval because that the the cleaned up plans haven't come in yet. So, and again, it's just these loose ends that from an administrative standpoint is is a cost and a burden to the city. So, we're just tightening up. John, I know you can probably talk about other communities. I know other communities that are much tighter than this that you know, you get done, you come out of planning, they don't they would deny something instead of all these conditions that you guys put on plans. They'd say, "Nope, no can do. Come back, get this stuff right, and you know, make sure you got a clean site plan for us." So, I'm trying to figure out where we're sitting right now. At first, we discussed granting the 12 month and then requiring a a six-month update to see where they stand. I don't know if that's still acceptable or you're still really leaning hard on a six-month time frame. Can the six month through the chair? Can the six months checkup be handled

administratively instead of them coming before us or do they need to come? Yes, it can be handled administratively. Okay. Are we okay with that? Sure. Um through the chair for the petitioner. I don't feel that you're um confident in your own ability to make that um six months mark.

I mean the reason why I just say I mean I spend so for the cleaning I try to do much much possible but sometime I got tied with the money that's the whole thing. I mean I want to build it tomorrow but so that's the reason why I said you know even when I went to the bank they say the 24 you're not making enough so this year if you make enough with you so that's what I try to do it so that's the reason why I spent all the money all the taxes I didn't pay taxes since 2019 sounds like you're doing so it's not like something I just you know

so it does sound realistic that we probably should look at six months because it sounds Like if we give you a year, it still may not be there for you cuz you're you said if that's because I the taxes is going to be due right start from like around April. So even when I send the paperwork is going to take time you know the approval with the bank. Well that that's my whole thing.

You don't have it. You're hoping and you said if and you're working towards it. It's a difference if you ask for an extension and then we say okay because you already have this in place. You are hoping and planning to have it in place. That's a different type of conversation. So in in my ears what I'm hearing is that I've already spent a lot of money. I'm not going to leave this. I want to do everything that I can which is great. I'm glad you do. But we want to make sure that we allow you that space but not give you any extra time to just have it sit there and then we miss possible other people who may want to buy it and do something with it. So

I would say it that way when I say I hope I mean because bang you don't know what's going to happen. It could be the whole economic is going to go down. You don't know what's going to happen. So I said when I say it's hoping you know everything's going fine. I want to do as soon as possible. I I know and that's that's that's exactly what I heard you say and that's my response as possible. There's a hope and there's wish. There's a prayer and it's an if and so there is a there's no if. And and it's well that's what a hope is, you know. No, I'm I'm saying I you know hope is mean it's good. It's good. I understand the bang when I just follow the bank. They say if you do it that there you can get it. Aha. If you do that. So again, of course, if you again,

do you have a guarantee next two minutes? Again, my statement is my statement is you don't have it. You're planning to get it. And so our concern is making sure that you do that. So we're willing to give you time because we could just say no, as some of the other communities would have said, but we're willing to do that. So we're going to meet you halfway is what that says. And then after 6 months, then we'll look at that again. We have no problems with it. So yeah, but I did the last and I got the approval. Mhm. I cleaned the whole year. So it's not something I just been sitting all doing nothing. Understandable. The key thing that we need right now is a revised plan. Yeah.

We got a few things. It's it's, you know, Peter's working on it. He said conversations back and forth with OM.

It's getting that plan cleaned up so that when the phone call comes, and we get a lot of them. You got a you got a big price tag on this piece of property. People are wondering why that price tag is so high. They they say it's because oh they're telling us they have site plan approval. So here the city we're having to say well if you read the minutes they have some conditions and the answer that we have to give is no they have not submitted the cleaned up plan so that we have a stamped copy of a site plan. So when they want to when you're and it's your business with how you're negotiating with these people that are looking at it, but it's a pretty for a for a site plan that somebody could foyer it right now, get a copy of it. It's not complete. But if you're trying to sell this this approval from us, it's not a complete approval and we have to tell people that.

So can you can you get those plans cleaned up at least so we can close the project out? Can I clean up the What do you mean clean up?

The plans need to be revised. So, they need to be resubmitted with the changes per some of the com. Well, they're their conditions and you know, it wasn't much there. There was just some you needed a variance. You needed to go get the variance on the on the lighting, but we you actually don't want to do that right now because those do expire and that is a whole new resid. Um, but just getting getting the site plan in with all these they're they're kind of housekeeping things and just getting those plans cleaned up so that we can close the project out and then what you would just be dealing with are this time frame that you have until to get engineering and building permit pulled.

Okay. idea. At this point, it seems to me that the my opinion is that to get you moving, we get six months and then if you're not to where you need to be, you come back before us and explain why. Okay, sounds good. So, within six months, you get the site plan. Within six months, you sub you submit the revised site plan, the final final site plan. within that six months, you know, administratively, we'll yeah, that we'll that's great status. That's a great status update if you can get that plan cleaned up in six months.

And if you do, then it goes to you've got 12 months. You've got six more months to get in get through engineering and pull a building permit. So after six months, when I just came, can I do exchange? But you guys, you need something active. So, so between now and May 26th, you need to submit a revised site plan and get that site plan final approval. Okay? So, then if you get that and you're making progress on your engineering, we say, "Good. Yep. The planning commission gave you to 12 months. You now have another six months to get engineering completed and to pull a building permit for construction." Does that does that that way? Keeps you on task.

Keeps you going. And you you don't have to come back here. Um, you know, everything's being done administratively. Okay. But we give you time, you give us plans. Okay. Mr. Law. Yes. To the chair. Mr. uh Hhabib, I just have a a question for you in regards to the property itself. Are you the um legal deed owner of the property or are you leasing the property? No, there's no lean on it. I'm not going to lease. Are you the legal deed owner? You own the property. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Thank you.

And I will say this and I and I appreciate the commission's comments and I work in several communities. I I think the commission's being very fair with you in a lot of ways. One of the commissioner had mentioned the potential for another development on there. The big reason that long-term extensions are are an issue is that this is a working body and ordinances are continually changing. landscaping requirements, lighting, case law. There's a variety of things that happen and so to have an approval at this point and to allow for an extension at this point that project couldn't be developed if we made major changes in our ordinance. So I think that I think the city's being very fair in regards to 6 months to make sure that to gently move you along to make progress.

Okay. Thank you. Is there any other comments? Thank you. A motion to order. Mr. Chair, I'd like to make a motion. Mr. Provin, I'd like to make a motion to approve a six-month extension to the site plan approval for SPR 2022-00001 global truck repair until May 20th, 2026 subject to the five comments in the planning commission summary report.

Support motion by Mr. Crow, supported by Mr. Bowad. Any further discussion? This is to provide for a six-month extension on PCRS PR 2022-001 global truck repair and subject to the summary list on page two of the report. So within the six months, that's where number four comes in there. site plan being submitted for administrative review. So, weren't you gonna think about giving him 12 months? Yes.

If he got the revised site plan in within six months, so we could I mean, that's a stipulation that the we could consider if that would suffice to get us moving, right? Yeah. The the planning department's okay with that. I'm I'm good with Well, so basically it 12 month extension subject to a revised site plan being submitted within 6 months. So yeah, simple as that. It's a revised site plan. It's approved by the planning commission. To get a site plan approved by approval. So you'll revise that motion to say 12-month extension subject to

subject to item four. a revised site plan being submitted for final approval before May 20th, 2026. That's 6 months. Are you agreeable to that, Mr. Robot? Okay. Yep. I agree to it. Any other? Quick question to the chair. You said submitted for final approval and Commissioner Cro said approved. Which one is it? Final approval. because they can they can submit a revised plan, but if it's still got to be revised again. So they final approval through administration through administrative administrative review. Yes. And they need to have final approval of that by May 20th, 2026.

So they've got So it could be two submitts, you know, just depending on how it should just be one, but this way final approval so we can close it out. Okay. Roll call vote. Mr. Krova. Yes. Mr. Bobo, yes. Mr. Long, yes. Miss Rosco, yes. Miss Jennison, yes. I vote yes. Motion carried. Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Keep keep working. Okay. Hopefully. I just came. No, hopefully for sure. That way you good. I like that. I'm not going to use hope. Thank you. So, I'm good guys. Thank you, guys. Have a good night.

Get Peter working. Have him call me. We'll we'll uh we'll get those plans in. Item B, SPR 2023 010 A1 Sing Trucking Incorporated. Is there applicant?

Yes. My name is Mark Wbrooks. I'm with Partners in Architecture, uh the architect on this project, uh 65 Market Street, Mount Clemens. Um we're submitting for an extension as well. We had originally sent in our extension for a 12 month. Um Carol had kind of put in the notes that they recommended a sixmonth um extension. I think based on the conversation that was just had with the last one, um a 12-month extension with the stipulation of final site plan approval or any other type of items by the six-month mark um administratively would be a nice comp that would work.

Yes. Yeah, we've been waiting on one last item for the final site plan approval um which we actually sent in um last week. So, we've kind of marked off all our site plan approval items um architecturally and engineering wise. We feel sufficient to really get uh plans and in to the city as well as into the county. Um there's some county drain items. So, we'll have those submitted. Just a matter of the owner being able to get funds set aside and building permits pulled after that six month. So, if I were to state it, it would be we would grant you a 12month extension subject to let's say item 8 all comments and other agencies and departments being addressed on a revised site plan for administrative review and approval. Does that work at six month point? Correct.

Okay. This one's a little different in that the site is in use. Um they're running their business. It's in code enforcement. just been working real hard, you know, through.

So, I met I'm Yeah, I started working with Mr. Singh. I met him when I first started in 23 and uh they had to do a bunch of work on the buildings. They were operating two businesses there. Um one one not approved and worked through, fixed everything, got going on site plan, came to see you guys, got a conditional approval. um got a temporary CMO back at the beginning of 24 which has expired which I won't which I have not been willing to extend until things move and we get into engineering we actually see the work get done that would allow the business to operate on that property. Okay. Is there any discussion Jimson?

Yeah. To the petitioner. Did I also hear you say that the owner is still um trying to gather the funds for the project? No, he he's not with the bank. He just has to once we pull for building permit, he has to, you know, get the loan term started essentially. You know, that's a pre-approval say. So, he's got a pre-approval, but he has to go through the process to get the fund. Correct. Yeah, he can't uh apply, you know, we can't pull the pull the funds, pull the loan until we have site plan approval.

Is there any question to whether or not that'll happen? Um, not on our end. Um, he recently partnered with another company, a construction building management company. Um so we we definitely see that he's invested um on that on that end of you know being able to actually construct this afterwards. Um a lot of our services include through construction. So we would be a part of the project through that portion as well. So by the six months mark I'm assuming that that means that he will have submitted everything and at that point he should have all the funds he needs to move forward.

Correct. Yeah. Yeah. Um, we would have drawn up engineering plans submitted to the city as well as to the county for the the county drain portion of the work. Um, and it would just be a matter of the approval coming through before that six month or after that six month, you know, whenever that process of after submitting how long that takes. Okay. Thank you. Any other discussion? Okay. Motion. Mr. Chairman, I'd like to make a motion. Mr. Kovas,

I'd like to make a motion to recommend a 12-month extension subject to a final site plan approved within 6 months by May 20th, 2026 SPR 2023 010 A1 Sing Trucking- A1 Airport Cards. subject to the eight comments in the planning summary report. Before I get a second, is that wording uh good? It is. It picks up these conditions. Um and then we have which again needs to come and then but you started it off with saying subject to site plan approval within six months by May 20th

which is just kind of clarifying number eight and then the rest of the condition. So no, that's good. I think Cheryl will probably be able to transcribe both of these cases very eloquently for you. Okay. All right. I'm good with my motion. You're doing a good job. Support a motion by Mr. Kova, supported by Mr. Provo, to grant a 12-month site plan extension subject to the conditions. One of them being that everything's done in six months. That is part of the summary list on page two of the planning commission summary report. Any further discussion? Roll call. Mr. Kroa, yes. Mr. Bobade, yes. Mr. Long, yes. Miss Rosco, yes.

Miss Jes, yes. I vote yes. Motion carried. Thank you. Thank you very much. Next item that we have is 2025 master plan update future land use map. Thank you. I don't have one.

Good evening, commissioners. Nice to see you again. Um,

this shouldn't Yeah, that'd be great. Jeeoff, thanks. This shouldn't take a lot of time, guys. We uh we just thought it's important to keep you updated on on how this process is moving along. Uh if you recall last time we talked about u some future land use changes or clarifications or cleaning up and that's what we continue to do. uh you were comfortable with the draft language where it was bumped up to city council where they've distributed it to our neighbors uh and they're still in that timeline uh to comment. And so we're we're waiting for those comments to be uh if there are any, which usually there isn't uh any comments that they would like to suggest to us to make changes. Uh again, we are looking to hopefully set a public hearing in December where the uh where you would move this up to city council again. But this map, these maps are coming along with accordingly with some of the text changes. uh map number one that you're looking at it. We call these a bubble bubble maps and typically used in planning to kind of call out areas especially in a larger city like Romulus that uh this first map is where we really wanted to show uh the residents and future developers and anyone interested that hey we have we've got a lot of cool open space and recreation uses in the city. Um, communities are moving away from just this public designation because there's a lot of places that are classified as public such as fire halls, city hall, DPW yards, cemeteries where uh, yes, those are public, but we wanted to with this map to clarify the changes into a parks, recreation, and open space so that when a uh, potential person is

wanting to move to Romulus or a developer is looking to develop in Romulus, they're able to look at this this map and see that hey all these green spaces are much more than just public. They're either recreation uh open space uh or parks. And so that's what the majority of these are uh will change to um this public recreation open space title. And you can see you can see that there's quite a few of them. We're keeping some of the more uh things like the fire stations and the animal shelters and municipal complex more related to the surrounding type land uses uh in the in thestead that or in the case that uh the city in some point wants to um market one of their sites or sell one of their sites. So that's that's the first map. This hasn't really changed from our uh original map showing these these uh moves from public to public open space and recreation. Where do I point this thing at at the screen at myself?

Why not?

Thanks. And what we also did, commissioners, is we added a some text language. You can see a memo that we we drafted to to allow for more explanation on why we made these these changes on the maps. Uh map two is as you know uh like most communities have a number of schools. Uh schools historically have been designed and planned within residential areas uh to walk to them. Uh what we're doing is taking these school sites uh that were historically classified again as mostly public, changing those to uh the surrounding land uses. And that does a few different things. It shows it doesn't it doesn't stick out in a residential area. It shows that hey this is either rural residential, single family residential, uh or similar. And also what it does because we do have some schools that are that are in transition or even closed uh allows for a look to the future for those sites and what what may what may be the best use for those sites. And so uh you can see the the different schools that we have in the city. Uh we're going to be designating them as for the most part the surrounding future land use designation. And those are uh there there's nine of those. and um we're not really making any changes for that. Uh map three, this is an interesting one, I think, and something that certainly the planning commission uh will be using in the future. Um and and like I've explained before in the past, the mass the master plan or the the comprehensive plan is much more than just a is much more than just future land use maps. There's there's a lot of text in there, uh goals, objectives. What we tried to do was tie in a lot of these different studies that we've recently completed uh for the ecourse road for a

housing study uh for a lot of public input and we've incorporated it into those. So, this map number three, opportunity areas. There's five of them that we're looking at uh making some changes uh for potential future development uh with the idea that that these make sense from adjacent land uses and potential land uses, but also doing our best to protect uh the existing residential areas. The first one, as you can see, is our southern gateway area. Looking to reszone that to a more of an industrial type use. Uh that's A1A. uh we'd be moving that to general industrial. Most of our property just south of the airport uh directly in the middle of the city is already uh industrial. Uh number two, uh we're kind of downsizing. You can see that area in green uh was all classified as public. Well, a lot of that is conservation easement. A lot of that is protected land, but that doesn't mean that we can't plan for some of this area that is green to allow for that missing middle or additional residential housing in our in our city. And so you can see that there's a mix of uses for number two that we're looking at. It's going to be uh rural residential, light industrial, and then the orange the orange areas uh are multifamily residential. And of course, anything in the future that is proposed there, planning commission and or city council will have a chance to review uh whether it's a site plan or a special land use. But that that just opens up the door uh for something that a lot of the studies have shown and a lot of the the comments from the public and our these recent studies talking about a variety of land uses in the city. So you could stay live here uh uh grow up here, retire here. And so that's number three or number two. Number three, we're looking to extend the regional business area on ecourse as the study as the the uh Baker study showed for the e-course road. Uh, of course then there there be there's

going to be text on this in our in our master plan talking about if and when this is developed that there will be no access on Beverly Road to keep that regional area that regional business uh just on Ecourse and and kind of transitioning uh from the south side of ecourse. Number four is based on recent changes that you made in regards to resonings. The uh uh the super Y the owner property changing that to general business. That's a that's a that's an easy one. And finally, number five, looking at the uh as I indicated earlier on our map number two, talking about some of our schools and changing that to uh the potential for residential, especially adjacent to the existing residential with potential other uses. uh on Maramman across the street. So those are those are things that if if they are proposed to you um it would include a reasonzoning and or a site plan. So these are opportunities areas. This this open this master plan has not made been a major changes. That's why we're calling a kind of a a revisions and that's why it's only 43 days. So, these opportunity areas uh would be included in the future land use plan. And and I know you know this, but the future land use certainly isn't the zoning, but it gives you an opportunity uh when you're making so some zoning decisions to say, "Okay, that works." Or you can use some of the text to say that doesn't work. And so that's kind of a guide. The last last map, map number four, is more of a detail of our downtown. Uh and again keeping a lot of these public areas as uh changing them to more of the surrounding land uses and it gives administration uh city council and others an opportunity to say perhaps maybe there we may change this if we move our if we move city hall if shelter moves those kinds of things and I don't I don't none of those are in the works

right now but it's not unusual to have a downtown in this particular case uh with the public uses very similar to the surrounding existing land uses. So I have a question or two on this one. The dotted line, the heavy dotted line, is that just what is that area that's around the downtown? That is the downtown area. That is just our downtown area. Kind of our specific downtown area. So like where the hook and ladder is there, the dog the old animal shelter. Is that part of Regional Center or downtown? It looks like it's red. Is that downtown? That's purple up in Well, I couldn't tell what the dark darker purple. Well, there's dark purple there, but right on the corner upper corner.

Those are property lines. Okay. Yeah, those are So, that's going to be part of the downtown. Yeah. Okay. And there are some outside when we say downtown, there are some outside areas, the athletic center, some others that are near the downtown that we're making some changes to. I just didn't know if that identified TIFF area or what. Okay. Any other questions, Miss Jennison?

Yeah, I do have a question. Um, map number three, southwest corner, Vanour and Marman. Um, the corner of Fairways at Gateway that was supposed to be business commercial at some point. Has that been changed? because it's still yellow. But the the corner that piece that kind of triangular piece there well right at the at the inter you're per the per the P or the PDA agreement it is commercial. That's what I thought but it's yellow on here. So it's just because it goes along with that that overall surrounding area but it's the P the PDA is an overlay. It's an agreement on top of it. So

I don't know. Well, I guess we can open that up as an agreement from started in the '9s. Sometimes you do that with when you got a Sometimes you do you may show that. Let's I mean, maybe we can talk about that some more. See if we want to add that. That's a That's a good question, Ed. Then yeah, it's just it because it's specific. Yeah. Sometimes when you show that on the map, people get a little excited and but they don't know the history behind it, whether it's a consent judgment or a different kind of agreement because we're not designating it as as a PDA. We pull on this map. We haven't pulled out as just as a future land use map and you may put that on the maybe we put that on the zoning map as an asterisk kind of thing. Yeah, that was a good question.

Thank you, Mr. Long. Yes. On uh map four, I just had an inquiry react to number four when it says the police department headquarters. That's to remain downtown, but potentially um we might be moving the PD and fire over to Wick at some point. Now, when we move, if we make that move, should that land be designated as what? Um

it's It's remaining. It's downtown. That's just the designation. It's not a police station. It's the underlying designation of the property in the whole the whole area. So that so if the if say the police station would would move uh Commissioner Long, they would this this map wouldn't change. it would still be downtown considered as downtown which gives the city uh the opportunities to to market the site for a variety of uses. Okay. All right. So, it could be residential, mixed use or whatever.

It could be it could be commercial with residential above it, but that downtown designation gives us a lot of flexibility to say, "Hey, that works or that doesn't work." In the same time, would we maybe have to change the zoning of the area or the change the map where the police station is going to? No, it's allowed in the regional center. Is it? Okay, good. Thank you.

So, I would I would think um if we do get comments, we have a um we have a public hearing in December. Uh we can continue to to move this plan along. We'll get some of the text cleaned up and uh we'll have a working document by early 2026. Wow. Yeah. Mhm.

And and this would this would go this would move up to council for a final decision, but um your hard work on it. They they appreciated your comments uh from the last time we met and and as always uh please get a hold of Carol uh with any questions or comments or things that you want to take a look at this. I'm pretty pleased with the with the with and and I've been helping you for a couple three years now, but there's a lot of outside studies that this city does that we've tried to incorporate into this plan, which is a good thing.

So, we do have um we have gotten some comments back. Uh the the main one um was from the airport authority. We met actually met with them on Friday and they're going to be um looking at their they made us aware which we were aware of the noise zones which for those of you that were on the planning commission before um you know it's always it's always a component of our master plan. We have to address the the noise zone areas. um we left it that we're going to be meeting and kind of trying to figure out do we want to put the noise zone maps are still in draft he said so we're looking our current ordinance references the 2004 maps so what we're going to be doing is making a decision when we kind of move beyond this level of this map is how to incorporate the no impact of the noise zones in the rest of the document. So that's kind of part two of this. We're in part one now and just dealing with the future land use map. So that was a pretty significant comment that came up that we knew was coming that we knew was more part two of of the project and again more narrative. It it could include the map in that section of the you know your big

would you put it as an overlay of an existing map? Exactly. That's kind of what it would show and then some verbiage talking about well um this is what happens or this is this is the impact of these of these districts. Um yeah they used a word that I wasn't familiar with air what was it? Uh navigation agreement. Thank you.

Easement easement. Right. And and I think that's really important in regards to the master plan and and or for folks who are going to move move to or if we're going to develop residentially because because of that easement or that area um and if it's designated as that there may or there more likely than not won't be an opportunity for uh the airport to provide insulation or windows or those kinds of things where they've done that in the past for for uh our city here on township, those kind of things.

So that was that was probably the most significant con that came in. A couple other communities commented um you know at the conference ran into people that are nearby and oh cool map the way you kind because it is a very unique way that we're we're presenting this. So we give Carla Wartman the credit for that. Um, one of the things that we wanted to point out to you because you're going to see it soon enough on map three, there are three areas that um, in addition to our public hearing on this future land use map, you're going to be seeing some conditional resoning requests. And the first one is under number one, the down in the southern gateway, the second DTW CRDC property, which is at the corner. If you see the star on the bubble, that area there, actually that area there, um, it it was, you know, it's kind of in in the in the works, but that is coming in for a conditional resoning to M2 to accommodate a logistics center. So, you will be seeing that next month. The other one is uh, Smearman School number five. Um that one is a a a redevelopment project with looking at um some potential changes on the front in the building, keeping the building and um converting it to self storage and some flex space. And we're we're in the midst of looking at that application right now. So you'll be seeing that in in December. The one that um you will be seeing, we haven't officially gotten it in yet, is number three up on the tower property that that application hasn't come in yet. That Kevin, do you have any status on that? Is it coming?

No. So, I have my weekly meeting on Tuesday. I'll I'll find out and ask. I'll see when it's what the status is. What was the name of the the developer? H What is that? That's up there. The tower property. The tower. Yeah, that's North Point. Okay. Okay. Anything else?

If I could, the chair just real quick. Um so you know a number of these different projects we've been um you know we've we've had conversations on and one of the things that I wanted to really highlight from Friday's meeting uh quarterly meeting with the airport uh which has really grown and and I appreciate um you know um John's attendance to that and then Carol and Jeff myself and we're going to be inviting um Chris Gerwood from Airropolis in to sit on these meetings also because I think it really pulls together the region around the airport and what we're doing and what we're trying to you accomplish. But um from from my office and um from you know uh direction from the mayor, we're going after some pretty large um money for the city through federal grants right now uh for infrastructure for uh potentially Smith Road in between Middle Belt and and Marman for uh the final uh construction of Harrison Road between Gddard and North Line. um Goddard Road itself in between Ingster and Middle Belt, expanding that to three lanes and and doing the uh um storm water and everything that needs to be done there. Um so those conversations go a long way when you start uh integrating the airport and you learn that there's sound polygons and height restrictions and other FAA overlays that we have to have consideration with that. So bringing everyone to the table and doing that has been really good. But through that conversation from an economic standpoint, we've been talking about the the airport buffer property and how do we how do we look at the forward facing portions of that and look for development particularly on Harrison Road because um at one point in time we brought to TIFFA a project for Harrison Road uh to complete that section of it, that onem section with full utilities was about $10 million and we got a $2 million grant, but it didn't make sense to put $8 million in to get 2 million to only see a benefit on 50% of the roadway because the other half of it was county

property and really wouldn't be developed. So, we kind of challenged Marcus up uh Marcus Tony the economic developer from the airport. He went back to the board and and said, you know, hey, Romulus has an interest in in developing this. Where and what can we do? and they looked at the there's some wetlands over there and some other stuff, but they looked at that and they and they basically broke out some areas and said, "Hey, forward facing. We own this property, but it's outside of height restrictions. It's outside of polygons. There might be navigation agreements that we have to put on it that basically says, hey, you know, you're building a business next to an airport and there's going to be noise and you're aware of that and you can't come back later and sue us because you built a building next to an airport." Um, so there might be some of those type, you know, agreements that have to be put in place, but they're really getting creative and looking at how we can utilize that buffer zone property forward facing and and leverage it for economic development in the city. So, I'm I'm excited about that because I think that the relationship that's been built over the last four or five years with the airport and and through Carol and Jeff and and John and uh and you know, obviously um the economic developer over there, Marcus, I think it's it's really getting to a point where we're starting to get creative with that stuff. And then um also to the Southern Gateway property that Carol pointed out, that property is actually the logistics company for the airport. They're moving them off airport property, which is internally located onto property outside of the airport, which is advantageous for us because then it becomes taxable and where it was before it wasn't taxable, right? So, we're seeing stuff like that starting to occur and it's it's a positive movement in the right direction. Um, and then we just, you know, like you guys will see and and you know, zoning and everyone else, we'll we'll have to walk them through the processes and and you know, go from there. But um I think it's been really good uh conversation. This process itself has been good for a

number of different reasons. Um you know even getting down to housing, we didn't realize that you know some of the areas around the airport that we want to develop housing with right now in order to do so. There's an FAA process that we're going to have to go through and they'll have those navigation agreements on their on their deeds as like, hey, you built a house next to an airport. It's going to be noisy sometimes. Um so it's just uh it's raising the level of awareness. It's creating good collaboration across multiple jurisdictional uh authorities and and really kind of um you know I think you know kind of aligning the holes in the Swiss cheese so we can move forward and and and see a path forward. So um I just wanted to add that in because I think this has been a great process that's that's added to that conversation

and anything that moves out of the airport is subject to our laws and ordinances. Correct. Fantastic. Yep. All right. All right. We take no action on this. Thank you for the information. We wanted to update you on it. Just knowing next month is going to be a busy month. A couple of the projects, you know, timing is good with some of this concurrent stuff with development coming in at the same time. You're updating your map. Seeing how we're going to have a big agenda, I think everybody needs to look at their calendar close. We're kind of short-handed. So, December is going to be tough. We better know it up front. Yeah. Let us know. December 15th is what we're planning. I mean, that's so if you know that you're not going to make that, please let us know.

So, next item is new business and we have our 2026 PC meeting dates. I need a motion to accept that. I make a motion, Mr. Jameson. Support support support by Miss Rosco to accept the meeting date for our 2026 planning commission. Roll call. Miss Jennison. Yes. M. Rosco. Yes. Mr. Long? Yes. Mr. Croba? Yes. Mr. Bobo? Yes. And I vote yes. Motion is carried. Next. Mr. Mr. Chairman, I would like to uh make another motion.

Yes, sir. the planning planning department created a um memorial resolution for for uh Commissioner Jerry Frederick and I'd like to make a motion to approve that. Um I do have a few things to say. Uh unfortunately we uh we lost Jerry this past month. The citizens of Ramos lost Jerry this past month and most importantly his family lost Jerry this past month. Jerry's been a well-known member of this community for a long time. He was a graduate of Ramulus High School. I'd have to say early 80s, early or mid 80s. Um he's as far as I know, he's always lived in the southwestern corner of Romulus. He was very involved with the community with the the citizens and then also he was part of the the planning commission, the zoning board. Um he put a lot of time into it. Jerry had one heck of a memory. Jerry and his brother, they were the type of people he never wanted to argue with because they they could recite things very easily. Um, we're going to really miss him. And I'd like to read this memorial resolution and then vote on it. Um it says where is Jerry Frederick during the 10 years he has served as city of Ramlas as a planning commissioner as well as six years he has served on the board of zoning appeals including a year on the BCA chairment person has significantly contributed to and assisted in various functions and growth of the city of government and whereas the performance of his duties and responsibilities and his working relationships were always characterized by an obvious dedication to getting the Job well done. Now therefore, be it resolved that this memorial be part of the official city records and official copy of this memorial be delivered to his family. On behalf of a grateful planning commission, I'd like to uh make this motion for his family.

Support. Motion by Mr. Kroa, supported by Miss Jimson. Any further discussion? Seeing none, roll call. Mr. Croba, yes. Mr. Jimson, yes. Mr. Long, yes. Miss Rosco, yes. Mr. Babe, yes. And I also vote yes. Thank you. Item 10 is reports on interest designations. Miss Rosco, do you have anything?

I have a few things. Um, with the holidays coming up, the first thing um is this Friday night they have the wobble gobble wobble. Get that right. Um, and it's a fundraiser for the Good Fellows. Uh they start at the artisian downtown Romulus and they walk from there to um uh Walters, I think.

Yeah. But anyways, um it's $10. It starts at 5:30 is when the walk starts. 5:00 is checkin and warm up um at the Artisian, which is located at 36542 GD Road. And they walk all the way to Walters Bar. And if you want to take it, you can park at uh at Walters and they'll shuttle you over to the Artisian if uh if you want to. So, um they say holiday turkey attire is encouraged. It's just a fun time uh of fellowship and a good way to raise money for for the good fellows. So, that is this Friday night and that is November 21st. And then um of course we've got the annual tree lighting in Romulus coming up downtown Romulus at the historical park area. And uh of course it starts at 5:00. They've got hay rides. Um food will be down there. They got a petting zoo coming this year. Um and they have some uh craft vendors set up. So, and then uh the other thing they have of course Santa will come and we'll give them the key to the city and uh the kids will be able to see him and get pictures with Santa. But um also they have uh stuffed the bus and they're asking you to bring u non-p perishable items uh and stuff the bus that will help helping hands here in Romulus and the food items will go to uh local residents whoever's in need and so on and so forth. And uh and the last thing we can't forget is breakfast with Santa is Saturday, December 13th. It's at the Ron Mills Athletic Center. It's $15 per child. Adults are $5. Um, you need to register

and uh register online between October 1st and December 3rd. And if you got more questions about that or have issue with getting registered online, you can call the recreation department at 734-941-8665. Other than that, um, you know, the holidays are coming up and Thanksgiving will be here next week and just want to say happy Thanksgiving. That's all I have tonight. Have anything under designation tonight? Okay. Next item is communications. Of course, we have the project status report. I don't know if anybody has any comments on that.

Right. You'll uh you see the two reasonzonings that I mentioned right on the front page there. And then some of these other projects. We actually thought we'd have one or two of them ready for site plan review, but they haven't come in. So they uh possibly January, January, February could be See, we have another repair site reopened on Grant and Gddard. How many can we get in there? Yes. Um finally, we have a German. So moved. A motion by Miss Jimson. Support. board by Miss Rosco. Any discussion? Roll call. Miss Jameson, yes. Miss Rosco, yes. Mr. Long, yes. Mr. Croa, yes.

Mr. Bobade, yes. And I vote yes.