City Council - Regular Meeting

I know. I might be done again. But in July, honestly, we're going to be like. Okay, that's what I thought. I'm not sure. I'm sorry. They're fish. They're fish. They're small. They're small. They're small. They're small. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

So that's why I was kind of wondering. So it should be my point, but they were just really great. So I know that they were great. They were great.

And now we're here. All right. Okay. Well, I was just kind of wondering, because I just thought, I don't know why it was me. Does that make sense? I don't know. Thank you.

We'll go ahead and call tonight's meeting. We'll go ahead and call tonight's council meeting for Monday, June 1st, 2026 to order. I will start with the pledge. indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. I'll say a quick prayer. Father, we thank you for being here with us as we discuss your business for this city. In Jesus' name, amen. Candy, could we see if there is any... Yeah. So we do have some public comments here today, but I do want to be mindful of some of our guests that are here tonight. So we'll start by asking Jason Wabiji Consultants, if you would come up, sir. This is in respect to the water plant bids and where we are on that.

Good evening, Mayor and Council. Yeah, Jason Hoskinson. Good to see you. Engineer with BG Consultants. So we had the bid opening last Thursday for the roof replacement project at the water treatment plant. And I handed out a kind of a summary letter here. The attachment behind that is the only bid that we received for replacing the roof structure. The bid was from Inco Structures out of Olathe. They are a pretty reputable contractor. We've had a number of different projects with them in the past. They've done a good job. I have no concerns that they couldn't do this project. No concerns that they'll do a good job for you on this project. They provided two options here. They provided a base bid for $215,000 to construct. Basically, if you remember, we're taking the old roof off, putting in new structural members, new roof trusses, and then that $215,000 bid includes metal roofing on top of that. They did provide an alternate. We asked for an alternate to do asphalt shingled roof. It doesn't last quite as long, but it's typically a little cheaper. just knowing the age of that building and not knowing where you may be going with it into the future. That wasn't much of a deduct, though. It was $212,500 for the option to construct it with an asphalt shingled roof. So unfortunately, we didn't get more bids than that. We did have a couple other contractors that had expressed some interest, but the size of the project was too small for one of them, and the other one said they were just too busy and we wouldn't like their price even if they provided a price. uh that's kind of where we're at with the bid that we did receive the uh kind of moving down the list here so the bid is valid for 60 days so certainly the sooner we make a decision the council makes a decision to move forward with it the better off we are to get that structure replaced but do know that you have basically two more months to make a final decision on whether you want to move forward with this price and this contractor Kind of the next steps to that process would be city council awards the contract We'll work with them to get the contracts and bonds and everything in place Meet with them on site with staff and kind of get the plan and schedule Worked up and then as soon as they're ready to go roof trusses are delivered Usually those are about a four to six week lead four to six week lead time We'll come back to you guys because there's probably going to be a need to conserve water during that period of time and then They have three months to do the whole project, start to finish, clean up and everything. I really don't think it's going to take that long, but we didn't want time to be a driving factor to cause price to go up. So that's kind of where we're at tonight. I'll turn it back to the council and see if you have any questions of me. Yeah, everything will be, they'll have payment bonds, performance bonds, and a one-year warranty period, plus any warranties that are provided by the roofing supplier. Those warranties will be passed along to the city as well.

Is there a grant for this?

There is not. No, unfortunately, no.

I mean, you've gotten, you know, like our...

And even though it was supposed to be here by May 7th, this bid is still good, even though the deadline was May 7th?

Yeah, the deadline was May 7th, but we issued an addendum because we were catching wind that there was no bidders. ENCODE didn't even have plans at that time. There just wasn't interest. We had a pre-bid meeting. Nobody showed up. None of the bidders, contractors showed up. So we delayed the bid to the end of May and made a lot of phone calls and tried to wrangle some bidders to the table to see if we can gain some additional interest. That did stir the interest of a couple of contractors, but INCO is the only one. So they met the bid requirements because we extended it to the, what was it, May 28th. So yeah, the bid's valid, the bid's good.

Okay, and so then I'm really kind of confused too on top of it because I went through the contract multiple times and I didn't see where it said that you would get the bid and open it and not grow. that you would come and get the bid and everything. So I'm just confused here. Okay. Yeah. I mean, because it doesn't say that you would open the bid. Basically, we open the bid and we look at it. Right.

We typically have a bid opening with our city. It's just a bid opening. It could be open to the public. It doesn't necessarily have to be to the council. There's nothing that requires that. Yeah. but yeah the the next steps if you are wanting to move forward with this would be a motion from the council and i've kind of if you want to kind of treat it sort of like what i have in bold and underlined down there below would be a motion to award the construction contract to inco structures for either the amount of the asphalt shingled roof or the amount for the metal roof which whichever you prefer on that I believe that's in the there is a penalty I believe that is in right well hopefully they don't right but yeah typically there would be a liquidated damages clause I think that's in the agreement portion, which, yeah, this is just the bid form of the agreement. Sorry, I don't have that number off the top of my head. We usually have $500 to $1,000 a day liquidated damages if they go late. Go long, I should say.

I make a motion to move forward with this, with the base bid of $250,000 with the metal roof.

I second it.

It's been moved and seconded to move ahead with this bid for the $215,000 with the metal roof. Any discussion?

Are we going to ask the bank to loan the money, or are we going to get the money?

For the loans and everything? Getting the bonds and everything? Is that something that you all would help with at all?

No, I'm not sure where Becky had left that on the finances, assembling the money side of the funds.

I know that we actually voted in a company that could help with that, loan-wise and so forth. It would be to contact them and see how they can help us with that. Any discussion? All those in favor?

you we'll uh move it forward with the contractor we'll be in touch and i'll get with the mayor and we'll talk through with the finances and the phone while you're here um on another project that we've um talked about with the dam so what's going on with that uh waiting on dwr to decide whether you need a permit or not um it's they're going back through a lot of records and they have some reports that were sent to the city But they're weighing it internally on whether we need a permit or not. But as soon as they make a determination on that, we'll be ready to go through a bid process and bring information like this back to the council. So I'm waiting on the state. I'm hopeful within the next couple of weeks, I'll have an answer. And then soon thereafter, we can hopefully go to bid and be ready to repair that thing this fall.

And then you got their bid for the Ash Street and Cedar Street too. So when is, can you tell us when that's going to start too? Because a lot of people are asking. I told you when you came in, I had lots of questions.

No problem. Yeah, we are probably 50 to 75% done with the design on that. uh it's about to a point where i do want to get back here discuss with the the city kind of where we're at with that and the status and then um i'm trying to remember back on that update i think we talked about a july august bid opening time frame on that with a later this year construction um or possibly into early next year what's going to happen to that grant i mean we've got oh it's there that's the schedule for the grant okay that's yeah that's on the timeline of the grant so um That'll be valid. That's still good. I think the grant, you had to bid it by September, I think was the date on that. So we're sitting good on that schedule and on that process. Our goal would be to have this project all buttoned up, though, by the end of the year.

Well, I'm glad you're here because a lot of people are asking about the grant. And then one more. We did the pool with you, too. So what's going on with that? Because our pool is broke.

Yeah, I got that contract back after that last meeting. We're working on scheduling a visit in. I'd have to visit with my architect on that. I would anticipate, again, within a couple of weeks we'll be out here, and then probably first or second meeting in July we could provide a report on where you could potentially head with that, with options and ideas and solutions.

Do you have four guys that you deal directly with now?

We do have some pool suppliers that we work with. We also do a lot of municipal pools, and we have mechanical electrical plumbing engineers that understand all the workings and what goes where and how. Yeah, we do quite a few pool projects in the house. We also have some sources for some grants for those as well, so I'll summarize that too. Not a guarantee, but it's at least an option. Yeah.

That's all my questions that I have. Okay.

Sure thing. Thank you. Have a good evening.

Thank you.

Could you turn up the volume a little bit?

Yes. We contracted with them to be able to help us with the...

Yes. Can we reach out to them about seeing about helping find... Yes.

Hey, they said they can't hear out there when you guys are talking.

And then I know people said on YouTube that they can't hear you with the mic not on too.

Okay. Alright, so in the endeavor to our other people that we have here tonight, could I get... A motion for a 10-minute executive session for potential appointment to include the city clerk and Bonner.

Is there a reason why we need to go in executive session? Because, I mean, I'm just asking because every time I'm hearing things that are said behind closed doors and everything that's out there in the public. So I'm just asking why there's a reason why we're going behind closed doors when I'm hearing stuff out there. That's been said. That's behind closed doors. I'm just asking. Why is there a reason?

Well, executive sessions is when we talk about employees and potential employees and contracts and potential contracts like that.

I get it, but we shouldn't be hearing things. That's what's been discussed behind closed doors out there.

We should not. Executive sessions should stay in executive session.

How many of us should go to the executive session for 10 minutes with the clerk and the owner?

I second.

Moved and seconded for 10 minute executive session for potential appointments to include Bonner and the city clerk. All in favor? We'll be back at 627.

Thank you.

All right. All right.

Did you say fugly?

Ugly.

Did you say fugly or ugly? They're close. They're close. They are close. Sorry to poke my nose in.

I just had to.

I thought you smelled like some kind of dead animal.

That's what it is. I'm joking. No, seriously.

I smelled something dead.

What's that?

I might actually be having fun.

Isn't it fun?

I'm answering a question in the background.

Is that he has a budget? That's a theme of fun. Right, which is all this stuff.

And then it can go to all these pictures. Yeah, they have a general goal with all this business. You wouldn't have to go through that. You wouldn't have to go through that. You wouldn't have to go through that. You wouldn't have to go through that.

It does.

It's a little different language. I mean, that's in pieces. Well, no. This is what I lived in, in Wichita. Oh, okay. Mostly in Wichita. Mostly in Wichita. I'm sorry?

You better learn. I didn't think it was awesome as a kid. That's a problem.

water because water

four years ago. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah yeah yeah yeah Whatever it takes to be careful. There you go. . . . . the tarp is going down

It's coming down the side. It's coming down the side. It's coming down the side.

Yes, I lost my attention.

Well, I didn't want to do that sometimes, but then I just thought in the back of my head, I need some money. And then I thought, you know, I'm not going to do that.

I'm going to go back. I'm going to go back.

No, I was in medical school, part of the medical school.

And a lot of times, that's when they get rid of it while they were in another one. I didn't know that. I certainly didn't know that. So when I sat down, I wasn't there. I wasn't professional in medical school. I don't think they can say that. I don't think they can say that.

No, he would not need to sit around today. Thank you. Thank you, everyone.

Have a good evening. Thank you.

Okay, executive session ended. No action taken. Resuming normal meeting. I shouldn't take a couple of minutes.

It's about the board.

He brought a picture.

Mr. Wills. Mr. Wills.

good afternoon everybody zach wills uh sitting here up here as a representative of agency plumbing obviously because me and my dad and my brother actually we're all together but my brother is actually gonna have any part of this he's in the middle of gulf mexico lucky guy so uh last meeting brought up the willing to donate 40 foot of 24 inch steel culvert and the coupling band and went through explained that saving Done in approximately $4,600 worth of time and materials with no expectation of return. And you guys wanted to put some, you wanted it in writing as well as a little bit more, better explanation of where it was going. So in front of you, just a little letter, and it reads that AZ Plumbing is willing to donate 40 foot, a 24 inch steel culvert, and their time to replace the 10 inch culvert that is under the road at the intersection of 13th and Sycamore, flowing from the south to the north on the east side of Sycamore. With the city of Pleasant providing the rock and the asphalt patch for the road, I, myself, have spoken with the street department head, Jeremy Gallagher, and this project will be complete as a team effort. Whenever he's got the time and we've got the time where we can dig it, pull out the tenant's culvert, have a good clean base where he'll bring in the rock. put a good base in, pack the road in with a good AB3, and then put cold patch over the top, and we will run our big vibe plate over the top of it for a good, smooth road, which that road ain't very smooth anyway. But do our best we can. Doing that to improve the storm drain problems, which is a big project that Public Works is already working on, and I think they're doing a very well job. as well as saving you guys, this city, time and money. Like I said, approximately $4,600 worth of time and materials we're gonna donate with no expectation of return. So just stating that there, it's in writing that we're not gonna come back and say, hey, well, we did this, we want this now. No, we're trying to do this to fix a problem that's been there, it's just gotten worse over the years, now that culvert's collapsed. And so I drew you a picture, you can see the, The red line there, that's where the 10-inch culvert is. I've got the map there. You have Sycamore going up and down, which is north and south, and 13th Street, east and west. And then where the red is is where that culvert's at, and will be replaced with a 24-inch steel culvert. And on the other side of it, it just shows you where there's eight-inch culverts coming from each direction. That's where I brought in the math last time in order to handle two eight-inch culverts. you're gonna have to have at least an 18 inch culvert to be able to maintain that. So even if the 10 inch wasn't collapsed, 10 inch still couldn't do it.

So for clarity, the water flows north, right there?

Yes. Yes, it goes to the north and there's not another culvert in between it and the creek. Okay. It's just an open ditch that goes out down to that creek there, which we cleared out when we did the sewer project.

One day. One day.

We can knock it out in a day. Just we'll get the day whenever, like I said, whenever Jeremy's not got time, not want to interrupt his other projects he's got going on, but like to get done sooner than later. So whenever he's got a day where he doesn't mind bringing over some road closed signs, close the road down right there, which only section that would be closed is from Sycamore, from the east side of Sycamore to the west side of Laurel Street, that little section of 13th Street, which is only going to interrupt Three houses, three people, which ain't going to be a big deal. We do got a road plate. If there is an emergency and you need to get something over that, we can throw down our road plate and they can be driven over.

I drove down there after heavy rain. And I see what you guys are looking at.

And I was going to say, if you guys want pictures, I got pictures I was taking on my phone. I just don't know how to print it off. It does. And the biggest problem, if you've seen it, there's a power pole in the middle of the ditch. And it's going to wash it out and it's going to fall over. So we're trying to help it.

So what is the council's pleasure?

We need to make a motion for it or help it?

Yes, sir. Okay.

I'd like to make a motion to accept agency plumbing's donation of their time and labor for replacing this cardboard project at 13th and Tickmore Street. All right. $4,600 for it. I second.

It's been moved and seconded to accept this donation of time and labor approximately $4,600 worth for helping with fix this water flow issue. Any discussion? All in favor? So moved.

Thank you, Officer Todd. Thank you, sir.

Moving back to our guests, if I could get a motion for a 10-minute executive session for potential appointments to include Ridgeway and the city clerk.

I'd like to make a 10-minute executive motion for a 10-minute executive session for potential appointments to include Ridgeway and the city clerk. I second that. It's been moved and seconded.

All in favor? We will return at 6.43.

I'm just saying.

I don't think they're going to like it.

What's up? Okay. How are you? I'm on time. Oh, God. It's on here. I'm sorry. That's just that. Okay. She's not going to be here. She's not going to be here. She's not going to be here.

She's not going to be here.

She's not going to be here.

She's one of those big mouths that will just stir the pot. And that's it. We've got one lady that was in there. No. No. No, there was a. I promised her. Who was that? I won't do those movies anymore. I will. Because I don't want someone to get up and go, these are my thoughts. I hate this, I hate this. It's like, no, it's not what we're here for. I thought we were going to give positive suggestions.

That's not what I heard. The last 20 minutes was We have, what, almost 1,200 people in this city, right? 1,100-something. It only happens if we got 1,000 people together or something like that. That would be effective. But what if you get a paper that doesn't?

Maybe 15?

I finished this is my mission I can't wear any of those

Unless I take care of the area out there. So that means I refuse to use the service. You can't go free. Exactly.

Now, if I go to Mount City, I can't go free. The lake at Mount City is great. They keep it cared for and trimmed. Now they have some stuff.

I'll take my boat there, but you can't do anything for the bank.

I got tips any time I went. Well, you're going to get them in your front yard around here. I drove around actually earlier this morning. I was driving around.

I was almost 30 feet. There are so many cars out.

I don't think I'm very good at this. But I'm going to do it differently. I'm going to be flyers. It's still a good view.

I got to go outside. We're all going to get under our feet here. Get in the moment. I'm crying. It's a three. I'm so worried about you. I want you to get How much is going on? It was $1.42 million, $1.43 million. So, please. I mean, $2.14 million. My partner is a lot bigger than me. Those aren't funds. Money's on the bill there. Those aren't expenditures. Well, one other thing, too, is you've got to live off all that information. And the red grill, the one that I use, when I come to my job, it's actually cheaper to just go and call somebody from down the street. They can't call the same thing. Crane operator. Oh, a pepper. What is that called? I didn't understand. A friend or not, you don't attack people verbally like that. It doesn't get any better. And that's when it crosses the line. And hopefully you never get there. The way things have changed. The way things have changed.

You have people in Congress pulling out

came and they wanted to hit each other. You know what I'm talking about. They're all nasty. They're all Nazis. Are you serious? That's not your boy. Your boy's got that mansion up there. You know, there was an asset in town. Yeah, but they can't sit there and already just act like that. There's an ethics here. Ethics. One member can't put another member down. But he's gone now. One of his kids or something. So we just sit there and sing Kumbaya. Kumbaya. Kumbaya. No. No. Executive session ended.

No action taken. Resuming normal meeting.

If I can get a motion for a 10-minute executive session for potential appointments to include Dean and the city clerk.

I make a motion for a 10-minute executive session for potential appointments to include Mr. Dean with the city clerk.

I'll second.

It's been moved and seconded. All in favor? We'll move back at 6.54.

How are you doing? We don't get a sec. So why don't we do this on Monday at 4 o'clock. They want to be more involved in the city of Pleasanton.

They got me.

. . . . . . . .

These guys make me look like I'm classy. I didn't realize we had relocated to where March is.

Oh, my God. I don't know where it came from.

I don't know where it came from. I'll do it.

No.

No. No. No. No. No. Yeah. What about Morgan? These are expenditures.

This is streets .

No, that's the budget.

So I download the total budget.

Right? Right. But these are funds.

This is like I have a fund. No, that's the fund where it's just me and where the money always goes.

Well, what about all the things in the water? $14,000 or something like that?

So $286,000. That goes into the next year's budget. So the water gets, the funds just sit there in the limelight until the next year's budget? Basically, yeah. Where's that money? Oh, it goes to the trust. But he resigned. Right? Interesting.

Well, see, I did it out of the expenditures. They were what's being spent.

So what's being spent of a fire, please, everything away, that's what's being spent.

But it is because, I mean, that $3.4 million covers the money that was made this year. But is it being used for? That's why it's a budget. So, okay, so I don't see a police thing or a firing thing.

That's because I have a separate budget. I'm not sure.

I don't know. Why is it a non-legitimate fund?

Well, non-legitimate funds, that doesn't show anything. So some of that, again, I'm not a wizard of budgets, but some of that could be a secret fund.

I don't know how that matches into there, but .

And that includes .

So my total budget is only $2,200. So it's . executive session ended no action taken resuming normal meeting

At this point, I'd like to hop back up to the top, if I could get a motion to approve the Consent Agenda.

I'll make a motion to approve the Consent Agenda.

I'll second.

Moved and seconded. Any discussion?

Was it – I noticed some – edits going on with that as well. I emailed Candy about it and yourself. I know those haven't been completed just yet, but I just want to make sure that is.

On the previous minutes? Yeah.

That is going to be reflected as that.

So what were the changes?

There's, what's it, one executive session that Rochelle asked for at the beginning of the meeting that is not listed on there. And is the council, people's discussions with the governor or not? I was asked if there's something about that either.

I made notes in here for that, but it would fall to the concept that right now the motion is to approve the consent agenda. That would include these minutes. There's amendments to there, so would you want to make a motion to amend the approval of the consent agenda to not include the minutes at this time until they're corrected?

And you need to make that motion to amend the motion. I'd like to make a motion to amend the motion to approve the consent agenda until the revisions have been made.

Is there a second?

I'll second it.

It's been moved and seconded to amend the motion to approve the consent agenda to not include the approval of last council meeting minutes until the minutes have been corrected with what is missing on the amendment. Any discussion? All those in favor? The amendment is approved. on the amendment to approve that now we approve the consent agenda not including the council meeting minutes from last council meeting until they're corrected any discussion all in favor So that puts us at the next council meeting. We'll have two sets of minutes to approve within that consent agenda.

I just want to make sure everything is in there, that we're not breaking any laws or anything like that.

That's why we're giving them, to make sure that we go through them and that everything is adequate and correct in them. Thank you, sir, for that observation. Moving on to the public comments, I'll remind you, for public comments, you have five minutes to address the council. The council is not required to respond at all. It is a bringing of an item to their attention. And I will butcher names like crazy. Forgive me if I do. Greg Dogstill. If you could approach the podium and state your name and address for the record.

Greg Stogsdill, 601 East 6th Street, Pleasanton, Kansas. OK. OK, ready? OK. All right, then. I just wanted to come in and got some issues with the lakes and parks and so forth and the maintenance and condition of them, you know. The residents start mowing around the first of April. The lakes weren't mowed, at least the West Lake for sure, the dikes and so forth, weren't mowed until May 1st, first mow, and the last one. unless they mowed this afternoon, okay? A month. You could hay it, and when they mowed it the first time, you could hay it, you know? Almost. I mean, there's so much cutting. You gotta try and mow more often if there's any possible way. And I know you guys are looking for mowing help, you know? And so you're addressing that issue, but we need to address it sooner next year, you know? you know so it's just one of those things the other thing is the dykes on the I guess you call them levees I guess around the lake Stege and the West Lake especially they are overgrown and you know they're going to need to be it's too wet to do it now you know to get the brush off of the sides of them because that's going to do nothing but damage the the levees where they're going to fail in the future. Because of the roots and so forth, the water will follow them and you'll end up with undermining, just like you have at Stege Lake around the dam there. That's the whole reason, the primary reason why that started leaking that way to begin with. And you need, I believe, you know, it's my opinion that you should, to mitigate the situation at Steggy Dam, you need to get out there with a mud pump truck and some guys with some experience. I've been in the oil business forever. I know how to control lost circulation, you know. And you have to mix bentonite. And you have to mix, you know, there's a lot of, I know we're dealing with lakes, so you can't use the chemicals we use in the oil field, you know, the polymers and stuff, because those lakes feed the East Lake, which is our city water supply. But there's natural additives that you add to the bentonite, and you mix it, and then, you know... And you let it work in with the water from the lake. You start out at a lower rate so it can go down and start to fill. And as it starts slowing down, then you increase the mud weight and thickness and density. And you can add cottonseed hulls, natural stuff, walnut shells. There's a lot of natural crushed walnut shells. They expand significantly. You can use a lot of natural, you know, flow additives to stop that, along with the bentonite. And you might be able to prevent from having to replace a whole dam that's probably going to cost a half a million dollars that we can't afford. I don't see how you can afford it. I mean, we're spending almost a quarter of a million dollars for a roof on a little building. Things went nuts. You know, the cost, $215,000? Okay, well, you know, but that's nothing compared to what it would cost to, you know, that dam. We've got to take care of our lakes, you know, because they're a big draw around here. It's very important, you know, that the dock, you know, at the East Lake, that wasn't mowed for Memorial Day, the East Lake, but The campers from Mountain City, they found time to come out on Wednesday, and they mowed a 20-foot strip on the frontage of the East Lake from, you know, a couple hundred yards or a hundred yards, whatever, each side of the boat ramp, and then up and around so they could camp out there and not be camping in weeds. And we don't get it mowed until the middle of the week after, you know. So, you know, the Eastlake is mowed now, but it's good. We just need to get on it, you know. I mean, I think maybe the department heads, you know, you guys started out with time, got time clocks and so forth. I'm thinking maybe you need to put some geo-trackers on some vehicles or equipment or, you know, get some time sheets. We need to know, it's probably not politically correct, but I'd say put, you know, get some sheets that shows your man hours, you know, or person hours or whatever they call it nowadays. I was man hours when I was working, you know. And then you'll have something to reference to what it takes to do each job. Not this year, but next year. And you'll be able to work more efficiently with scheduling. So I think it's a problem. And tick bites, they're bad this year. 54% increase in emergency room visits for ticks. And the Northeast and the Midwest are the primary culprits. And we're right there. If you could do that, I'd appreciate it.

Thank you.

Mr. LaForge? Ms.

He already said it. But thank you.

Mr. Jessica Huntley?

Jessica Huntley, 605 East Brock Street in Pleasanton, Kansas. I am here tonight because I think things are getting way out of hand and becoming way chaos. You have rumors going around town about different things and this, that, and the other. Citizens don't want to hear all your guys' BS. I mean, I look at it like this. You guys need to pull together as a team. That's what you're supposed to do. Start doing it. Start showing it. Because... When you've got people going, oh, well, this person likes this person, this person don't like this person. No, it's done. It's over. We're tired of hearing it. Citizens are tired of hearing about the council back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. You're adults. Let's act like it. Second thing being, we... basically demote Tristan from chief to just a cop, okay? And doing so, one of your cops that was on a case involving my minor children decides to put in his resignation. So where does that leave my kids? I mean, you guys have no common courtesy or respect for anybody in the city. None. Because when your officers have investigations wide open for people involving children, minor children at that, and... Some good crimes. Why are we demoting and letting people go? I mean, you need to really get a grip because that's not going to let that's not going to want them to continue with what they're doing. In the meantime, you're hurting your citizens. You're not hurting yourselves. You're not really hurting them. You're hurting your people. You guys have became so and this isn't the first council meeting. city council people that's been up here that's done this, you guys have became so cold hearted to your people. You're here, you were elected by us as citizens and you guys act like children more than anybody else. I think my teenage kids act more adult than you guys do. I had my 19-year-old son ask me a question about Tristan the other day because he wanted to know why he wasn't chief no more. And I told him it was all over budget. And he goes, won't they give it to me? I'm good with math. I'm good with figures. I can figure this out real quick. I said, I don't know, buddy. I said, you go talk to him. I said, it would do some good, I think, because I think that we sit and we stress, but are people's lives worth it all to you? Put that in the back of your mind. Demoting Tristan and not just rehiring him as a chief as he's already been here. And I know that me and Tristan have had conflicts, but you know what? Me and Tristan at the end of the day, we have worked them out. We talk, we communicate. You guys can't even do that. instead of just shutting him down the way you guys have and the battle back and forth between all of you is ridiculous, plain ridiculous. I mean, when you've got almost the majority of your city employees ready to walk because they're just tired of it all and you got the citizens fed up with it, you're not doing a very good job. So, I mean, I look at it like this. I have seriously thought about doing maybe a recall on some of you that can't grow up. I mean, because you guys make all these promises to make our city better and you're hurting our city. You're not making it better. I mean, because if you stop and look, how many times since you guys have taken office, how many citizens have been in here and complained? I guarantee you if you take last year's and this year's and put them together, I guarantee you guys already have as many as you did for the whole year last year. People that has came in and complained just since you guys have been elected. And it's not that I'm saying I have anything against any of you personally, I don't. I'm saying it's time to grow up, time to work with the city as a whole. You guys, the mayor, your people, talk to them, communicate with them, treat each other with respect. You guys all talk about respect and then you guys, I know some of you guys have discussed things outside of here that have been in the public eye as well, and it's old, it's ridiculous. Stop, stop. I am tired of hearing it. My kids are tired of hearing it. My kids are ready to come up here and tell you to grow up. I mean, they really are. Because you know what? That man standing right over there has made me have a reality check in my whole life, through my whole divorce and everything. He has been one of them that's been there, along with the one that we just let resign. So now tell me that it's okay to let one resign who had several open cases involving minor children, and that's OK. So what about those kids? What are they supposed to do? What protection do they have now? Think about that.

Thank you. Kevin Lodge.

My name is Kevin Lodge. I live at 311 Laurel Street, Pleasanton. I have questions just about the budget. First off, one, there's general expenditures with, for instance, I have an expenditure which would be the electric bill. I've got to pay that out. And then in your budget you have funds, which is money that's there. It's not money that has to be brought in. It's already there. But you guys include it in all the budget, right? Mary, you told me that? That the three different parts are $3,439,000 and some odd cents around there. It's been brought up about our police force. Our city, regardless, needs policing. We can't just have nobody because we're going to suffer. So that's all I have to say about that. The growth around the city property is ridiculous. It looks bad. I wouldn't walk in it around the lakes, around the other city properties, even the city property around the water plant. It all looks bad. It doesn't bring pride to the city. If the city and their workers can't get it done, then you guys need to contract it out. I own property in this city. I'm responsible for keeping my property looking nice. Being mowed and all that. If we're going to do that, the city has to do that. That's what taxes are for. Now, I happened to drive around today for like 30 minutes before I even did all this. And I looked at all the private property that is in this city. It's... I'm embarrassed to call this city my home. It looks horrible. People are just letting their property go. I think we need to use social media, signs posted everywhere to take pride in your city and clean up your own property. We as citizens should not be asked to volunteer to mow city property. It was brought up at other times. We shouldn't be asked to do that. That's why we pay city taxes. I don't mind mowing my property. My funds brought it, I bought a mower and I mow it. The city needs to do that. That's all I gotta say. Just side note, I think Tristan does a good job. As far as the budget fight and everything else for him, I'm not sure of all of it, but we need policing in this city. You know, meth is a problem. Drug trafficking is a problem. It has to stop. We need policing, whatever has to happen to get that done. So that's it. Oh, sorry. One more thing. Sorry. Drainage and so forth around our properties. I've been asking for over five years to get that done. And all I heard was, oh, that's not our responsibility. It's the property owner's responsibility. Now, I talked to the mayor the other day and he said, no, no, there's they've gotten. fed up in that word. It's making sure your grass and weed control in the drainage ditches and so forth is maintained by us. That's our job, right? As property owners. Well, I've been asking for over five years to get my drainage ditches and culverts repaired. Nothing has been done. I just, because of the mayor, I just put in a work order, but then I hear, well, it may be 12 to 15 months. Over five years I've been asking for this. Come on. Something has to change. So, anyway, thank you. Appreciate it.

Is James Higgins here? if i can get a motion for an executive session for potential appointments to include the city clerk please how long do you want um for 10 minutes if we can please i'd like to make a motion from the executive session for 10 minutes for potential appointments to include the city clerk Been moved and seconded for an executive session for potential appointments for 10 minutes to include the city clerk. All in favor? We'll be back at 727.

Thank you. So let's see. This is Kate's desk. All right. All right. All right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't get it. Yeah. Thank you. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

Honey.

Honey.

Thanks for making it look good.

No, it's not ready. I'm about to come and bring that to someone. You know, that's been bringing them up, right? Only got half of it done? Oh, you look happy.

Thank you.

showing itself in the file September of 24. I didn't even get served until November of 24, election day, after he voted in Pleasanton. And he wasn't even living in Pleasanton. He had been living in KK the whole time. Then he turned around.

They did the divorce part He remarried a lady out of Texas. In July, our divorce decree wasn't even filed until October. They didn't even get our child supporting around the month ahead until this year.

So I had a huge time to say, run around and say, he's only been in like 73. I think they said 73 or 78. See you later, gents. It took me an hour and 20 minutes to get to the cinema piece. No. Please. Back here. You can't do it without a whip on. Too much hot air. He would write it in. Executive session ended, resuming normal meeting. At this time, I would like to request

for a motion to consent of council for the appointing of a city attorney, Jeffrey Dean, with Lumbar Municipal Law.

I'll make a motion to approve that consent to hire Mr. Dean. Mr. Dean is our city attorney.

I'll second. It's been moved and seconded. for consent of appointment to hire Jeffrey Dean of Lombard Municipal Law as our city attorney, prosecutor. Any discussion? All those in favor? So moved. And if I could get someone to motion for a 10-minute executive session for non-elected personnel potential hire i'll make a motion for 10-minute executive session for non-elected personnel it's been moved and seconded all those in favor we'll be back at 7 38

Thank you. Take no offense to that whatsoever. I don't know if I can see everybody. Hold on, man.

How does it feel to be in control of a water plant? We'll take it one time.

Thank you. And people really like that. I'm sorry. It's the most underserved. I don't know.

I will ask that you have the peace and peace of the Lord. I will ask that you have the peace and peace of the Lord. Thank you.

All right. Thank you. I didn't get a copy of this.

Thank you.

You're welcome.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

They would. They would. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

First time I made it. He's pretty good. He's retired.

. . . . . He had nothing but good things to say about you guys. Yeah, yeah. First meeting with my parents was probably live.

All right executive session ended now I should take it assuming on the meeting I

I make a motion that we allow the mayor and the clerk to interview, and did we say go ahead and hire for the mowing position?

I second.

It's been moved and seconded. to allow myself and the city clerk to interview and hire for the seasonal mower position. Any discussion? All those in favor? So moved. Departmental reports. Chief Wisdom, would you like to start?

just a couple of reminders are the pump testing that the county always sets up that we pump test the city fire truck is scheduled for July 21st and I will remind you that as we get closer to On Thursday morning, I've got some kids coming to the fire department for a tour and just kind of talk about the fire department. Saturday the 6th, starting at 7 o'clock, I have the burn trailer going to be here. So pretty much in front of City Hall and the fire department is going to be blocked off. I hope it is not raining too much there. And I am now up to two wheelchairs that have been donated to me to take up to the community center. Last thing I have is one of my firefighters that's on the city department. You guys, if you're on social media, have probably heard that Adam Swearens passed away. He was on the Ume Fire Department. He was the chief for a long time. He was in the administration side of things. Whenever his... Visitation is going to be Thursday night here in town and Friday the funeral will be at the Hume High School. My question is would you guys have any issues if 205 escorted Adam to the high school in Hume? I have talked with the county fire chief about getting other trucks and about covering the time, having somebody covers the city of Pleasanton while the truck is over there. It's not very far away, so if we do get a call, we can turn around and head right back over here. But I just wanted to bring that away. If somebody says, why is, City of Pleasanton's fire truck in Hume, this is why, and I want to see if you guys have any issues with that at all.

Have you talked with the chief of the county?

Of the county? Yes. Brian? yes he is good with covering the city he's actually going to probably you know whether he is his personal truck or his County fire truck is probably going to be escorting but covering the city while we are not while the truck is gone I will talk to Hume's fire chief in the morning and talk with him about what they are planning to do they may just as soon as they may just want as soon as we get to state line to turn around and bring the truck back over here yeah Yeah, you know, the reason why I bring this to your attention is it shows respect for a fellow fallen firefighter. This was not a line of duty issue, but also we're showing respect as a brotherhood, sisterhood of the fire department doing this.

And was he a firefighter?

Yes, he was.

What's up, Friday?

Yes, Friday. The funeral will be at 11 o'clock. The plan is somewhere around 8.30 of doing the escort, and then we can bring the truck back over here. I don't know how many city firefighters will be available because Tyler being on our department, we're going to be there to support him as much as we absolutely can. But I say Yuma's not very far away. If we get a call, we can head right back over here and yeah I've talked to Brian I talked to Brian and he was good with covering I actually I will call the captain of 920 to let him know that I've talked to the fire chief and you know as long as they can get somebody to cover then if if I can't get somebody to cover we may go to the state line and then bring the truck back So that would just be 10 or 15 minutes.

As long as our city's covered, I mean, I think it's fabulous.

Okay. All right. That's all I had for you. Do you have any questions?

No.

I do not. Everybody good? Thank you, sir. Chief Snyder?

From May 1st to May 31st, we had 307 calls for service that included 74 traffic stops, which we wrote 49 citations due to step. We had 77 fishing licenses checks. Two people were ticketed for not having fishing licenses and asked to leave the lake. We arrested five individuals. We had four drug cases. We had 18 reports and 24 call-outs. There's a list of some of the calls that we went on, which included one ambulance call, two aggravated battery, or I said battery, it's aggravated assault, two death notifications, one domestic, one fire call, two fraud calls, one juvenile incident, one mental illness, one hit and run, two motor vehicle accidents, two suspicious person, one pedestrian under the influence, two suspicious activity, one suspicious vehicle, and one sex crime. During clicker ticket, we stopped approximately 39 vehicles, wrote 40 seatbelt tickets, which covers 20 hours of overtime that the state reimburses for doing that work through that campaign. Out of the 24 call-outs we had, including hours that we ran over, we had 30.25 hours of overtime work during that last pay period. To reference that, since May 4th, we had approximately six sick days used, 12 days of vacation used, and two days for family death. Some of those days of vacation were already scheduled in advance. This led to the number of call-outs and overtime that was accumulated through the pay period and the current pay period in which we are at at this time. However, most of that overtime on this current pay period is covered by step grant for the clicker ticket. Sergeant Ross, as you've already been told, turned in his resignation on May 24th and made that as of that day. Him resigning makes the fourth resignation since May 4th, 2026, which leaves me with myself, Cartman, and one part-timer. Since May 4th, I've had several conversations with dozens of citizens wanting to know why they no longer see police patrolling the town and have shared their concerns involving the safety and safety of their property along with drugs and everything else. Some of the overtime of that 30.25 has come from that with conversations that have gone over my allotted hours. Some of those call-outs in the overtime, again, involved aggravated assault case, taking multiple information from multiple felony warrants and working with other agencies to assist in capturing those individuals. We've had several suspicious persons and suspicious activity calls, which involved unknown individuals walking around businesses and residents. There was also a call for the drunk pedestrian who was digging through a resident's items in their yard that was waiting for pickup from the citywide cleanup and refusing to leave when requested. We called to a residence as well to pick up weapons that were found in the yard because the individual didn't want them around their children. And then we also took a call for either burning tires or structure fire, which nothing was found at that time. And that is all I have.

Mr. Mayor, at this point, I'd like to make a motion to reinstate and reappoint Tristan as chief of police.

The chair would say that the proper motion would be a motion to consent to the appointment of tristan snyder s chief please i'd like to make a motion uh to consent to the appointment of tristan that's chief of police motion has come forward to consent to the reappointment of tristan snyder as chief of police is there a second all right second We moved and seconded to consent to the reappointment of Tristan Snyder as Chief of Police. Any discussion? All in favor? So moved. Moving on to unfinished business billboards. I wanted to get a clarification of council on what our hopes with the billboards that say Pleasanton on them is. Are we looking to just have Pleasanton back on those in a fresh new way or are we looking for those billboards to be something more? Because I had a few people contact me over the past couple weeks understanding different things from council desire regarding that. So I just wanted clarification on what we're looking for for that. so that as we put forth, we want bids on what that's gonna take to get fixed and redone, that we're talking about the same thing. Did you get ahold of Emily Lee's? One of the people that I did speak to was her, and she was under the impression that we were looking for some kind of advertisements and stuff on the side.

Yeah, because my understanding was that she helps with these billboards and can help us get an idea of things to fit on those.

So that's why I was wanting clarification. Are we looking for advertisements into the city and such to be on the billboards or are we looking for a welcome to Pleasanton invitation billboard?

I think this should be a welcome to Pleasanton with the city seal.

Because if we, whatever it is that we're wanting, do we want to put forth for bids on that for those that have that graphic design stuff to submit something to this council to look at with that.

That would be a better option. Have them design something and present it to us and we can get that rolling before we lose the contract. Yes. Give us something to look at. I mean words are one thing.

Okay. So is that like an open concept? for these graphic designers or is that something more specific for them bid-wise magic minds can come up with okay so i'd like to make a motion for the opening of bids for presentation of designs and such that we could look at so they're going to be sealed or is it going to just be that um

I personally think it should be sealed in so that way no one knows what else I'm stealing.

So are we looking at, because there's two aspects to this. There's the design itself and then there's the bid to do.

Don't we want to get a design first before we?

So we want to open design and then once the design is present get the bids on making it happen. Okay, so. But when do we want those designs?

So we want to open up

options to be presented by next council meeting of potential designs for the Pleasanton billboards in the north and south of town coming in on the highway, right? Okay, water to the school ball fields. Can you tell us? And while you're at it, the water that you looked at for the potential housing addition. And while you're at it, also tell us about the potential housing addition, what you come up with there.

So for the water at the ball field and sewer, they already have water. and sewer for concession stands right there at the south, southeast corner. I'm gonna be getting in touch with Don Epps and see if they can just run a line from them. It's not costing the city any money and just be on them since they already have the utilities there. I have not heard back from Don Epps, so I'll be trying to get back in touch with him tomorrow. and then is there gonna be enough water volume for that yeah they got a two inch pipe and it's just well they just have concessions on it over there today uh school has like four meters i think uh then for the was it housing development it's going to be about 1600 Feet of an 8 inch line to go up there. and take a right but we're probably going to have to get an engineer to help us with all the pressure gauges and that because phase one from what I hear is that they're going to have 20 houses and if they get to phase three they're going to be having 70 houses out there so if that's the case we need to be prepared for 70 houses out there eventually so yeah

And on that, I did briefly ask Jason when he was here before the meeting started if that was something that they'd be able to kind of put together what it would cost them to look at and present us a bid perhaps on them looking to see if we have the proper incline for sewage and the proper pressure and everything for that water pipe to get out to that area within that. So if that's something that we want to do, I would need a motion to be able to ask them to present what we're actually... I just need consent of council to be able to ask them to present a bid to the council to look at what that would cost so that we would know where we are if they're wanting to proceed with that housing condition because they would want to annex it into the city and then build the houses.

What's that on the phase two? How big a pipe did you have to put in? 10 inch?

I was talking about about eight inch. Eight inch in the first phase. Yeah. Eight inch to go. No, that's just for all of it. Eight inch and then it'll all go down to six inches. If we're going to do 10 inches, we're going to have to tear up all of Ash Street and replace all of that line.

which if we were going to need to do that, we would want to do it before we fix Astria. Which is why we really need the engineer's view on that. Because if there is potential for them to look at it and tell us.

It seems like every time we call B&G to do consulting, It cost us $4,500 a pop.

Yeah. So whenever I was talking to him before, he said for that he would probably just charge us by the hour because he didn't think it would be very much or take very much to actually do that portion. So what that would be by the hour is what it is. If you would like, I can contact him and have him send what that would be over to us. And we can look at that at the next council meeting of what it would cost for them to look at. Does that sound appropriate to everybody? So we know what we're looking at before we go into it. Yeah, we've got to make sure we know. Do you need a motion for that? Probably not, but it's always good to have a motion for the record.

I make a motion to the mayor to contact B&G Consultants to discuss the water main for the new development.

Not a second.

Any discussion? All in favor? Thank you.

Since you brought up the water and wastewater, I had a situation over at Redispenses. So I was wondering if what we need to do over there is, through the alley on 14th Street, it comes and hits like a T. And the main line that comes through Cedar, that 14 pumps into that manhole, which fills it completely up when we get the heavy rains. And I think what's going on is we're getting water infiltration in the sewer lines. We must have open sewer drains somewhere filling it. Plus, the lift station on 14th Street kicks in and comes down that alley. Then Rita Spence lives to the west there with a short run. And I didn't know if that was something that maybe... Because they've done work to it in the past, I guess. And I didn't know if... the engineer could look at that situation as well. Because that might have to be redesigned maybe with a bigger manhole and a line or two manholes in there maybe in place of the one that's there. But I just wanted to bring that up. What's that?

I'd add that in there for the governor to look at.

That's one thing. The other thing I had was, I was needing to request, we have the lift stations behind Casey's one. It's a Smith and Loveless. They're real good lift stations. They've got two pumps in it. One of them's down. I'm waiting on parts. I think the reed valves and the vacuum pump is bad. So if the other one goes out, we're going to be in a lot of trouble. We're going to have to get one of the haulers to come pump that to keep it from coming out. That was put there. The book that I found said in like 2014, so it's 12 years old. Me and Josh has went out there, worked on it, done a few things to it. I was wanting to know if I can go ahead and have someone for Smith and Loveless to go out and go over it. I mean, It's worked this long. And it is a nice lift station. It's just that it's got a VFD in there. It's a little electronic deal. So if you mess that up, it changes the speeds of the pumps and the motors. If you make a mistake, you could burn the pumps up. It would be a lot more money than... What we want to do. So I just think it'd be better to have a professional come down and go over it. But the problem is it's going to be kind of costly. And they don't give you a bid, they just come do it. And I wanted to come in front of the council and ask permission before I did it. And the thing of it is, if we don't do it, We can have sewage all over the ground.

That's going to be my question. What's the cost of coming down here and looking at it?

It's usually a show-up fee and start to look at it. Starts out around $1,500, and that's before they do anything because they're coming out of Kansas City. And lift station stuff is so technical. You can just have to go out there and open the door. Well, lift the hood, look in there, and you'd see what I'm talking about. It ain't just somebody can walk in off the street and start working on it. And my problem is... I don't mind working on it if you don't mind me burning it up. I mean, if you want to pay a couple extra thousands to refix what I tore up just because I didn't know what I was doing. That's what I'm trying to say. You know what I mean? To do minor maintenance on it, like changing the reed valves, that sort of thing's fine, but when it comes to technology, it'd be better.

Is there someone else that you can contact to see if we can get a vote on it?

It's made by Smith and Loveless, and they're the ones that... I have another company that does all these in-ground ones we have. And if we have an issue with him, that's another thing, is he can come and pull and fix them, and it's the same thing with him. He's just going to show up and go, let me find out what's going on, and then he's going to turn around and go, here's your bill. There is no quote. It's like taking your car to a brand new car today to automotive. They don't go, this is what it's going to cost you. They go, either pay for it or you don't have a car. I'm in the same situation. You should see what I mean. There is no other people to call other than people that work on lift stations. It's kind of like if you had an elevator go down in an Empire State Building, you better call an elevator mechanic, not just someone off the street. would like to come look you're more than welcome i'll show you the lift station we also really need to redo the road going to it because if we really had to have maintenance done to it we'll get a truck back there sunk then we're going to go get a wrecker to pull them out i mean have you guys seen where it's at back there behind casey's the lift station but anyway i didn't know if because if it stops it's going to start pumping sewage out on the ground i think we need to go ahead and get the tape The sewer's pretty good. I haven't looked at it in a while, but it ain't too bad.

Yes, the sewage fund would have enough to cover that.

Oh, yeah.

It should be that easy. The thing is, if the guy could come down and go through it and If there's big pieces that he wants to replace, I mean, there's smaller things he can go through, but he may have another bid to redo some more stuff to it. And then I could get a bid for that part of it. But to fix the one that's down, we're going to try to fix it, but I'm waiting on the reed valves to come in so we can put them in this little vacuum pump. And you don't know if the other one's going to quit tomorrow or next week.

That's the problem. For now, yeah. The others are all in ground.

And we have another electric company, KTK, from Fort Scott. He comes down and he's been fixing those for us.

There is a water leak over by Stu Baker's French Bowl.

300. Yeah, we went over and we're trying to figure out a way to get it stopped. We've taken it apart and we haven't really found the leak. If it's, what'd you call it, before the setter or after?

It's before the setter. It'd be on our side.

Because I know it's been leaking for a couple months now, so we really need to...

I got a few digs. I started my one dig on first streak to Wednesday and then Thursday we'll be getting spigots out to the ball field on RLC ball field by the lakes in the compactor. So after that we're going to be trying to get everything situated. Right now I'm focusing on the water plant. Tomorrow I have KRWA meeting me. We're going to test the flow meter and that because at it right now with how the light pumps kind of keep up with the filling the pool this last week, I'm really worried that the pumps are starting to go out. So we're going to have to be looking into that relatively soon. So right now, check the flow meters, check if that's good. If that's running right, then it's out at the pumps. Which goes into, we're going to either get a new pump, replace all the pumps, but with that it's a bit difficult because all of them are together. If you take out one, you got to take them all out. And with that we need to clean up the lake at least in front of the pumps suction area. So we get this Memorial weekend with all the boats and that it's throwing dirt and that and the pumps mixing it up which created a lot of flock which gave me a lot of trouble last week as well. So right now I'm really advising trying to get our pumps fixed if not look into a new intake. Because without the, an easier way to pull out the pumps and get down and fix them, maintenance on it is practically impossible. Especially right now when we can't close the gate valves to it. Because they've just been, when it rounded out, rusted from over the years. I talked with Wholesale 13. Apparently Joey went out there asking about how to handle the manganese problem that we get every year and they said close the gate valves and he told them like I told them that we don't have that capability. We need the capability to be able to choose what depth we're getting our water in to pull in the cleanest water to make cleaner water and to prevent any problems with the plant.

Can you start getting some quotes and pricing for us please?

I plan on it here really soon. And then anything else? I talked about the leg pumps. I did give you the quote for that mixer because we got the sludge scraper fixed here for the west clarifier and now the mixer motor went out. on the waste clarifier. I put it in the bin and I wrote in my reports. And that would also help with the sludge problem as well for it gives us a second container to hold it and keep the levels appropriate.

Is that going to help with the yellowness of the water that people are complaining about? Yes, it will. Because, I mean, that's what they're really complaining about. Like, my water looks like mountain dew. That would be a nice way to say it.

Yes, it will help quite a bit, yes.

Can you remind us of what that quote was because it was in the email?

I think it was just $2,699, somewhere around there. $2,209.33. All right, there you go. $2,000 what?

$209.33.

I thought there was six or something.

You could have rounded it up. Unless you just Lexic wrote it. Yeah.

I read it once and I'm like, oh, that's not bad.

So if the council wants to approve it, I would suggest approving it up to $2,300 just in case.

I'd like to make a motion to approve the mixer What repair or replace? A new motor for the clarifier. New motor for the clarifier for up to 2300.

I'll second that.

It's been moved and seconded. Any discussion?

When will you order this? How long will it be in?

I think two weeks. Yeah, I believe it's a two-week lead time.

They've got to build it to specifications.

Yeah. They're already sending the nameplate, got the quote for it. They're just waiting for us to get them to go ahead.

So two weeks.

All in favor? So moved.

I still need to know about what you want to do with the lift station with cases. I mean, we're going to, if the reed valves come in, we're going to come in there and put them in the vacuum pump, see if it fills vacuum and clear the errors and see if it pump one runs. Well, if it don't, You want us to go ahead and call and have it fixed? That's them come look at it and diagnose it and maybe fix it. And then later, because I'm not them. And every time I've ever called them, because when I worked in Fort Chatt, when I called them, they'd show up. It was $1,500 to $1,200 just for them to drive down there.

That's weird that

You know, I will give them another call, but they tell me to get a hold of so-and-so, tell them what you need, and then we'll make up a work order for you. That's what they tell you. Then they show up, then they go through it, and they go, we'll send you a bill.

Yeah.

Yeah, but we could also have a $10,000 sewage spill.

They could at least say, you know, come down, inspect, you know, at this amount, and then whatever it would cost, send us what it would take to repair.

The problem is if they come down to look at it and it's a simple repair, and that's not the agreement, then they're just looking and then they're charging you again to come back again.

Yeah, it's going to be every time they come down, they turn up to that.

That's an unfortunate thing about motors and things like that. I dealt with that a lot when I worked in oil fields. They're going to come and fix it if they can. And, I mean, it could be little to nothing. It could be a lot. Unfortunately, we do need the lift station working.

Yeah, because the state's going to show up and I won't have a license no more. Because it's my license that's going to go against, and the city's.

Whatever the...

I mean, I feel the same. I'm just as much not wanting to spend no money as you are, but when you have to, you have to. Right, right. I mean, you know what I'm saying.

All right. Thank you. Thank you. In the have-to category... Here's the bit for fixing the AC that we're burning up in. And there's some extras there to pass over to Jackie.

Is this the only bit we got? Yes.

Yeah, Myra came out and looked at it, and this is what's. So they came and checked out and found that the compressor is just not responding right. It's blowing the breaker every time they try to turn it on. So the compressor replacement, pick up, remove, replace, pressure test, evacuate, start up is $3,031.25.

I make a motion to approve Myrick's proposal for $3,031.95. I second it.

We moved and seconded to approve Myrick's bid for the City Hall AC for $3,031.95. Any discussion?

Will it come out in general?

Yes.

I don't have any maintenance.

We don't have a designated maintenance.

Do we have enough in the general fund to come out? I understand it's a need and I don't want him to suffer, but I just want to make sure we have enough money in here to cover this. Yes, we do.

Any other discussion? All in favor? Can you get that real quick, the printout of where we are?

They're printing.

Thank you. K-9 pay. Chief Snyder? Chief Snyder? K-9 pay. Could you address that, please?

So canine pay would be the hour a day that he's on shift.

So he would get 14 hours a month, and it would be at his overtime rate. The only thing that he does that isn't on overtime would be training because he trains during his shift.

That should be a line item. It shouldn't fall into overtime.

I mean, but it's paid out at overtime, is it not? I'm pretty sure that's how the county does it. I could be mistaken. I have it split up from what I made, but I thought that it was paid at overtime. If it's not, then I'll get things changed.

Yeah, I think we need to run into that.

Okay. I'll talk to Cody and go from there. All right.

auxiliary fuel tank, Mr. Lutz.

Everybody else is trying to cost y'all money. I'm actually trying to save some a little bit.

So that's a good thing. So we have, we run our diesel tank. back there we have uh mfa come down they fill it up whenever we need the thing filled we also have a second tank that is set empty for quite some time i don't care what we do with it but if i'm going to move it then it's probably just going to wind up in the backyard somewhere and it's just going to sit there and probably either rot or something If we're going to keep it, we should probably look into using it. So I called MFA, and as of right now, and this is today's numbers, it's $2.77 a gallon to buy gas through them. Last time I was at Casey's, it was $3.99. So at the 500-gallon rate, at $3.99, it's $1,995. at the 277 is 1385. in a month's time this is just based off a month because i don't know how fast it would go or not at 610 a month that we would save which boils down to 7320 annually just going off of one month scale so i mean it would save us money and be beneficial if we used it If you guys don't want to use it, I'm okay with that too because either way it's going to have to be moved over, moved out of the way, something. So with it not being used, what about the rust inside? I haven't looked at it yet. As far as I know, there shouldn't be any rust in it. It's always been sealed off. I know nothing about this thing other than it's been back there sitting in one spot since I started. That's what I'm saying. I don't care what we do with it. Either way, we need to do something with it because it's really doing us no good sitting there taking up a lot of space.

Well, we've got so much else, things going on. Is that really our concern right now?

It's nobody's concern until it is. Like I said, I have to move it one way or the other. Either it be sideways or back there is all I want to know. What do you guys want to do with this thing? Well, we only actually put fuel in three pieces of equipment now. Because what we have is off-road diesel. to big semis they can't use that because dot specs so our diesel lasts quite a bit uh i can't remember which it needs to be filled up now but um and i was thinking it was hang on hang on because i hadn't put additive so it had been october november-ish because they didn't start putting the uh additive in it the stabilizer in the fuel until i believe you said late september first of october so like i said i don't care what y'all want to do with it i say inspect it let's let's see what the condition of it before we make any kind of decision that's fine yeah and does it have to be diesel that's used in it No, that's why I was saying, if we have one for diesel, and that'll last us quite a while. Because we only have three machines that we use. But if we use that one for gas, this is what I kind of crunched numbers on today to see what you guys wanted to do with it. Whether you wanted to use it for another diesel tank, which to me is not really a good idea.

You got a diesel tank back there now? Yeah.

500 gallon, I believe. It's either 500 or 550 gallon. I can't remember.

And this would be every department able to use?

Yes.

So what's it cost on the fuel for the police vehicles and

The only time it wouldn't save us money is if for some reason there was an issue with them getting fuel here or if somebody was out of town and we had to get fuel to get back in town, whatever the case was. Yeah, as long as that thing is there and full or has fuel in it, then that would go for mowers, police, public works, all of them.

Well, let's get it inspected, and then come back and let us know what condition it is, and then we can go from there. I think it would be the best for us.

And it has a good way to monitor how much, how many gallons is being taken from it each time?

So, I can get a hold of Wes. He actually has his set up to where, unless he's updated it, excuse me, it was just a little black key, poked it in there, and it told you who was activating the system. when it was activated and how many gallons was in it or being pulled out of it. The way his was set up, you actually had a little keypad that you activated it and you typed in a series of numbers and that told you what unit it was going in, told you who was doing it and everything. And he could actually access this thing and pull it up on a computer and tell, I pulled out 300 gallons of diesel for what machine? And then it would tell him it was for a skid steer or track hoe or whatever the case was. We can do the exact same system on that. And honestly, I think probably wouldn't hurt to put it on the other one either. Cause it doesn't have any kind of security system on it. Never has. So if we're going to do one, hypothetically speaking, if we keep this, out of the barrel, this drum, use it. If we put that system on one, might as well put it on the other. That way it's the same across the board. The pump has nothing to do with it. The pump has nothing to do with it, the pump works. What the problem is is the valve bodies that I complained about last year and nobody wanted to address. So what these things done is you're supposed to exercise these things routinely. I mean, I'm talking even in the off seasons, you're supposed to go down there, crack them, work them back and forth, oil them, this, that, and the other. This has never been done. In fact, three out of the four, I can tell you right now, it's a six inch butterfly valve. The butterfly is only this big around now. Bill jokingly said, it's not a shutoff valve, it's a water restrictor valve. Jokingly, he said this, but he was very accurate in that saying. When we tried to figure out why it stopped pumping, we very quickly found out that when I went to try to start exercising one valve, it snapped the main shaft going to the butterfly, and he watched me do it.

So we have those valves on order now. And how much water do we have?

uh actually i'm waiting on another price because josh don't think those were the right ones he thinks what that valve was specked out for was that ginormous valve that we can't even get to move i think is what that was so i actually sent uh mike from corn main pictures of this of these valves these specific valves and he was going to get me prices hopefully we'll have something tomorrow I don't know how much they're going to be. I don't even want to give you a quote because if I do and it's way off out in cloud nine, then I don't want to be called a liar or something. I don't know how much these are going to cost. I really don't. Bill said he could get them for $750 at Menards and he never did. But now we kind of have to. If they're cheap enough, I'm not going to lie to you. I'm going to get all four of them and here's why. If we take the thing apart to do one, we might as well do all four right now because the whole system's got to come down to get it because you got this huge T up here and then you got one down here and then you got one over here. So if we take this section loose, which is right in the center of everything, might as well take the whole thing loose and fix them all at one time. He never said he could or not. That's the problem. He never actually gives me any information on these vows. So I don't know if he found some online or he just said they had them or what. I can get a hold of them, yeah. And if they've got them, I'll shoot you guys a price or something or give it to him and he can tell you guys and we can go from there. Maybe. If they've got things that old. I don't know how old that they operate with. I really don't. Are you talking about the pool and spa place up there? No, I think the one... Yeah, there's a couple of them up there. So I kind of know what you're talking about because I've seen them before. I've never been in them, but I've seen them.

We just need to get on the phone in the morning and see who has them and we can get them. Yeah. Like I said, I got because I was even talking to a couple of the children, a couple, several children in town. And they're like, you know, the pool, let's get the pool up and going. And that's just kind of highly important.

Yeah, because I'm not understanding why. I mean, it wasn't dealt with like in April or, you know, or the last of April, the first of May.

So I'm wanting to know why it wasn't addressed last year to begin with and we wouldn't even be discussing it this year.

I mean, had it been taken care of then, it wouldn't have been a problem today.

so as long as weather holds out um me and james are going to go out and try to get everything caught up and then we can just start rolling through and then when we get our part-timer hired then he can go out and help james and i can dress other things because i've also got fish feeders to deal with i've got to try to get that skid steer out there and get the around the dams mode um the piers that go out into the water around the lake shores. I've also got the East Lake that I need to go and bushwhack along the ditches so that can be taken care of a little bit better.

Even if it rains a little bit, people are still mowing their yards and stuff.

Yeah, and I've buried two mowers to the belly.

I think you're going to have to use the tractor and stuff to use the water department. So we have a part-time employee. Is there any reason why she couldn't be out?

She's on streets. Everything's as bad as it is. So, I mean, no, you can't rob Peter to pay Paul. That's not a functional system because if you take somebody out of this department, put them over on this department, then this department is going to ride the struggle bus. So the only way to successfully do it is to get people for these positions, not rob Peter to pay Paul and then hope for the best. That's not how that works. Otherwise, we wind up with a pool situation. because we were robbing Peter to pay Paul and not paying attention to what the system was telling us. And we just said, oh, it'll hold together for another year. It didn't. It doesn't matter who was right or wrong or what. This is what we have to do.

I'm just saying, the people are really complaining about how it's not getting done.

Yeah, people are complaining about a lot of things. So I'll tell you what I can address, and then we'll go from there.

Can you use a brush algorithm at all?

Yeah. I can use bush hogs in places they can go. Well, like out the lakes and stuff, I will be using brush hog, especially out to East Lake because I've got saplings. Some of them are as big around as the nozzle on that, and some of them are almost as big around as the bottom of your cup and bigger. So, yes, that will be bush hogs. I'll just have to go slow with those because, I mean, that's bad juju. You just tear into one of those. But I can take those down with the bush hogs.

And they are making sure to get all that, especially at the Westlake, before this Saturday's fishing derby.

Yeah. Also, on another note, as long as when Alex gets back, as long as he didn't tear it up too bad, I'm going to see about having him come out with his little rake for the skid steer. And seeing how it works on our walking trails, because they have to be reconditioned. And if I can get something that's simple without, we've got a tiller back there. I am scared to death that if I take that tiller out there, it's just going to bury itself. Because it's not a light little machine. And it's a pretty good size tiller. I mean, it's for a tractor, obviously. But if we can get something like that, that'll till that man's hand up and Make it purdy again, that would be exceptional. But that's neither here or there. I've just got to wait until he gets back because he does have one. I just want to see what it does on these particular trails. Because as of right now, all I'm doing is just dropping the belly of the mower and scalping it. Which, I mean, it designates it, but it doesn't clean it.

Don't we have that machine that goes over the side a little bit and gets the grass and stuff?

Yeah, that's one of the little bush hogs out there.

And you'll use that out there too, right? So people can fish.

Yeah, that's the general idea as long as I don't get stuck.

And when's a fish feeder going to get caught?

As soon as I get some of the mowing caught up.

People are asking that too.

I mean, fish have been eating off the bottom of the waters for about 150 million years, so pretty sure they'll keep.

I'd like to see the moment get going.

Kind of my thought process, too, because it's getting unruly and out of hand, and it's hard on my mowers.

Yeah, let's address that and get that going.

As soon as we get that caught up, then I'm going to spring into the feeders.

We got the kids fishing derby this weekend. Yep, we're going to hit Steggy Lake first. We're supposed to be here this weekend.

State of the Lake's going to be probably one of the first on our agendas, that and the entrances to town. And then we just kind of work this way. So.

Thank you, sir. Okay, Pumps of the Lake, we've kind of already touched on that. Councilwoman Rochelle, did you have anything? No. Councilman John?

Yes, I do. Following up from last meeting, I need to speak on a few issues that have come up. For one, Eddie Haynes had come up to my work and disrespectfully stated that- Okay, I'm going to stop you right there.

We're at a council meeting and we're here to conduct business. We're not here about personal agendas.

This isn't a personal agenda. This is coming to my place to work and disrespecting me there.

Okay, so that's something between you and him. It has nothing to do with city business.

It became, it came off of city business.

I'm sure, you know what, I'm going to tell you right now. I'm sure that... Eddie Haynes is not the only one. And I'm sure you've had other people come up there and disrespect you too as well. So don't sit there and you pay.

Let's remember to stay calm in our speaking, please.

So I'm going to tell you right now, my mom has not come up there and disrespected you. My mom doesn't even know who you are.

She has come up there.

Well, she might have come up here. You know what? I'm going to tell you right now. You work there. Maybe the city shouldn't do no business for you. What's there?

Make sure we remain calm.

Well, I'm just telling, because you know what?

But it's okay for people to come and do that at my job.

It's okay for you to sit there and bow to us. Yeah, and accuse me of having a secret meeting. If you have the proof, you better show it. Because I'm telling you right now, you have no proof that I have the secret meeting. You better show it. Because the defaults accusations better stop. Because you know what, this is a small town, and let me tell you, if I go into the store and I see Kenny, Sandy, or whatever, and everything, I can talk to myself from this meeting because this job has got me so stressed out that I can't even think straight anymore, okay?

And I just want to say I don't care about your individual little arguments or whatever, but everything that I'm going through here is all of your fault. You have a good evening.

And this is why I made the remark earlier, Mr. Mayor, about maybe a recall needs to be done.

Order without the city clerk present to record anything else in the meeting. I need a motion for adjournment. Because the meeting becomes adjourned. If you could give me a contract for us to get signed, that would be great. If you want to touch base with me tomorrow, I can get you all of that.