Planning Board - Regular Meeting

Good afternoon. The city planning board is now in order for the June 8th meeting. Please take roll.

Board member Anderson is absent. Board member Cherry? Here. Board member Barker?

Here.

Board member Rich? Here. Chairman Neubauer?

Here. Are there any changes or deletions to the agenda?

Mr. Chairman, there are no changes or deletions to the agenda. Thank you.

Thank you. Any announcements or disclosures by board members?

I have a disclosure. I went to both locations and saw both.

Anyone else? Do I have a motion to approve the meeting minutes from the May 11, 2026 meeting?

So moved. Second.

Motion to second. Please take a roll.

Board Member Cherry?

Yes.

Board Member Barker?

Second. Oh, yes. Board Member Rich?

Yes. Chairman Neubauer?

Yes. I'll now read the procedure for the board will follow during quasi-judicial hearings. Step one, public hearing announced, introduction of application by staff. Step two, ex parte communication disclosures by board members. Step three, identification of applicant and affected parties that intend to participate in the hearing. Affected parties that only intend to make a statement may do so at the public participation part of the agenda. An affected party means any person or any that will suffer an adverse effect to an interest protected or furthered by the ELDC, including interest-related health and safety, police and fire protection, service systems, densities or intensities development, transportation facilities, health care facilities, equipment or services, and environmental or natural resources. Alleged adverse interests may be shared in common with other members of the community at large, but must exceed and agree with the general interest in the community goods shared by all persons. I'll now turn to counsels for witnesses.

Yes. Anybody that's here to speak on an item today, if you plan to come to the podium and speak, please stand now and raise your right hand to be sworn in. Do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you will give in these matters today will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

Yes.

Thank you very much. When your item comes up and you come to the podium, if you'll state your name and address for the record and that you have been sworn, we'd appreciate it.

Thank you. Now start with request item A.

Item A is case number ending in 1, 2, 3, 7. It is an application for a small-scale land use amendment and a rezoning. The applicant has requested a small-scale land use amendment and rezoning from residential and residential 1 to general commercial and general commercial 2. The owner is Park West 23rd Court LLC. The applicant is Amjad Haddami. The address is 2015 West 23rd Court. And staff is recommending denial for this one.

Thank you. Are there any questions from board members for staff? Yes.

What was the rationale with the request for GC2 versus GC1? And was there a recommendation of the staff on one versus the other?

Um, with general commercial to immediately a budding residential one, there was a fear that GC two would, would have the potential to encroach into that residential neighborhood. We're just looking at land use and the development patterns. It was, you know, this office space and then all single family residential for the most part. So that that's, that's why we recommended denial. If it was more of a neighborhood commercial ask, um, like a mixed use, it would be a little bit different on our side. Um, but because it was so intense with the GC two. That's why our recommendation live word. It did.

And was that recommended to the applicant to consider a different land use other than GC2?

GC2 was the request of the applicant because of the parcel they own on the corner, the existing office space. And so the request to bring GC2 to that one just to make it consistent. I believe when we met with the applicant, we brought up the idea of going for more of a mixed use or a lower general commercial, but I believe the applicant, they were set on the GC2 with that existing zoning at the end.

Okay. And with what they wanted to do with it turning into a parking lot, would a GC1 accommodate that capacity? I believe it would, right?

Yeah. Yeah, it would. Both uses, well, the existing use and then kind of their their proposed use for this parcel, which would be just to kind of clean it up and have it as an overflow space for their existing use. Both of those would fit within a neighborhood commercial. So a GC one. But then we would have to knock down the zoning from that in parcel to from GC two to GC one. And sometimes that's a hard designation to give up.

Any other questions? All right. Is the applicant here to speak on this item? Yeah, please state your name and address for the record and whether you've been sworn in.

Good afternoon. First of all, I want to thank each and every one of you for your time here. I appreciate the opportunity to be able to come up here and present our case to you guys. Thank you for meeting with us whenever we did and giving your recommendations. Thank you, Ms. Lynn Cherry, for going out and taking a look at both properties because that'll make it easier for me to describe to you and to everyone else what you may have seen and what our intended plan is. My name is Amjad Hidami. This is my brother, Rami Hidami. As was stated, we are the owners of the property directly abutted to the one that's in question. The property in question for today's hearing is at 2015 West 23rd Court, and we own the dental office building and property directly adjacent to it at 2326 Frankfurt Avenue. The intended purpose, I heard a parking lot that was and is not the intended purpose. That's not anything we've ever mentioned. That property, Ms. Cherry, as you may have seen, possibly with all the overgrowth, That property has an existing building, an existing structure. She was a neighbor of ours for a long, long time. That dental office that we own has actually been there, has been a part of Panama City for over 30 years. And we intend to keep it that way. We've grown. My brother acquired that office and has been there for over 20 years. And I've been there for about 12 years now. And it's something that we're proud of. We want to keep as a part of the community. And as a result of our growth and our mission to improve the health of Panama City and Bay County, we need a little bit of additional space. Not parking space. We have that covered. We need office space, specifically for ourselves. So our intended purpose with us acquiring this property is to move our direct offices that we work in, do our notes at the end of the day, move that into the building, Ms. Cherry, that you saw over there, and also move our staff lounge where our staff takes a break from all the patient care that they do and work hard all throughout the day serving Bay County and serving the Panama City population to give them a bigger space area to you know take a break in because our current staff lounge and our existing building is is very small for the team that we currently have so that's our intended purpose now the reason for the amendment and the zone change is just like was mentioned it's hard to give up a gc2 so we want to maintain the gc2 designation at our dental office And that's why we want to match this new property at 2015 West 23rd Court as a GC2. And we also, in building out this, the building that you saw there, in building that out to be office space for ourselves and a staff lounge for our team members, we want to be able to obviously connect a hallway from our existing building at 2326 Frankfurt Avenue to that building that you saw at the property in question over here so that's why we want to be able to put the two parcels together because you know at the end of the day it's a lot easier for us if we just have a single electric bill a single single water bill things of that sort so it's all managed underneath the dental office business and that's why we want to join the two parcels together and we want the designation the zoning to be a GC2 so that way everything matches we do not plan on we've been Bay County residents our entire life I mean I went to elementary school middle school high school over here so it's I don't want to see anything happen to that neighborhood that neighborhood is where we make our livelihood and you know it's it's where we treat our county that we grew up in. So it's not, I don't want to turn it into a parking lot. You saw it, Ms. Cherry, it's overgrown. That lot as it stands right now is actually an abomination might be a strong word, but it does not match beautiful landscaping of that street. Our neighbors, including ourselves, we do an excellent job of maintaining a very nice look on that road. And unfortunately, in recent years, before us acquiring that property, it was given to renters that played very loud music. We would get neighbors complain to us, because we were the business right next to them, like, hey, how can you guys hear that? And it did. It was annoying. There was loud music. There was awful smells that came from that. Whenever the opportunity came up for us to acquire it, that's why we wanted to acquire it first and foremost is because we didn't want to see that happen to our neighborhood. And then we want to be able to clear that overgrowth, clear all that nasty brush that you saw. It looks like an Amazon rainforest jungle, which is fine in the Amazon. but not for Panama City, Florida. We want to maintain the overall landscaping, we want to maintain the overall trees, the prettiness of the area, but it needs to be cleaned up. It does not look nice the way it is, and it would make sense if we include it as a part of the Baytown Dental business, then we can do that as a business expense. We can put towards those improvements there and make it a much better, much improved property for what is an otherwise gorgeous road and gorgeous neighborhood.

Just to add to that, we do plan on maintaining the existing structure.

We just need you to get your name and address and if you've been sworn.

Again, thank you very much. As he introduced myself, my name is Rami Hidami. And I thank everybody here for taking the time to meet with us as well. And you were sworn in? Yes, I was sworn in. Thank you very much. Thank you. And our plan is to maintain the existing home structure, but with the engineer's help and the professional's help, find a way to connect our office via a hallway into that structure to be able to use it as my brother mentioned there earlier. So if anything, we're going to maintain that look, but improve on it with the landscaping and of course the fixing that is required there.

Thank you. Any other questions for the advocate?

Has anyone in the neighborhood complained to you or anything about it?

As a matter of fact, the opposite. All the neighbors, I would say the majority of them, including the neighbor that butts up behind this property that we're inquiring about, have talked to us as a business to see if we can help in figuring out what to do with this property. So I would say they look forward to seeing an improvement and a change happen on that property. As he had mentioned, it doesn't match the look of our street and the care that everybody provides to their landscape and to their yards on that street there. Thank you. Thank you.

Yeah, thank you. Is there anyone else here to speak on this item? Any further discussion?

I guess I have questions for Samantha. So let's, you know, several of us up here are small business owners and we don't want regulations to get in our way when we're trying to be entrepreneurs and better our business and our livelihood for our families and their community. So how can we move forward given that staff has made a denial on this request but you alluded to an opportunity that maybe could be more favorable given the city's comforts of planned and land use regulations so let's let's talk about that and see if we can we can create a solution that would be a win-win for the city and these owners

Okay. I think our initial offering for one of the mixed use designations, like mixed use three for both of the parcels would fit more in line with the city's comprehensive plan. And that would be something that we would recommend approval with. GC1 is a little bit, do you want to offer your opinion on GC1?

Yeah, I can. So what we, at this stage, what we have is a staff report that is a recommendation of denial, because the general commercial, too, we've determined is far too intense going into the neighborhood. However, we are open, if the applicant is open, because it's obviously up to you all, to have some additional discussion around two zoning districts. That would be Mixed Use 3 and General Commercial 1. As you can see on the zoning map, there is Mixed Use 3 further to the north. And of course, right across there is GC1. And we're happy to look at either one with the applicant. Of course, we're leaning towards more MU3. to be completely transparent because it does allow for dwellings. And so we believe that would provide a more gradual transition into a neighborhood area that allows for a residential neighborhood. So I think that's the path forward. the One other component of this that we have to consider is looking at both It sounds like the goal is to develop this To keep the existing building But of course this will be a part of a larger development as you're upgrading that that site next door so we want to make sure to prevent split zoning and prevent a development that's spanning two different land use categories in two different zoning districts we want to make sure that both parcels have the same zoning and same land use designation okay And that is easier in the long run for development. You do not want to, it sounds like a great idea on paper and in conversation, but when you have to design a development working with two different sets of regulations, you find out very quickly that it's not so ideal at that point. So that is why we want to take that approach. You would essentially have to, what we're recommending is that if you're going to go to MU3 or GC1, have both parcels reflect, either or. And we are more than happy to work with the applicant on that. But I just wanted to put that out there for additional consideration for everyone.

Given that they were talking about it basically extending and having that become one unit, are they looking to merge those parcels and have it just be one parcel, essentially? I believe so, yes. And they have to match at that point prior to the request to combine them?

When you combine, you have to make sure that both parcels have the same zoning district and same land use category. So that's part of, because we're looking at the big picture here. So we want to make sure that we just take care of that on the front end. So by the time we get to that point, we're talking about cost and time. A lot combination is a staff level review. So development orders are a staff level review if it's not a major development, which here I don't believe it would be. that would cost you less time. So we want to go ahead and take care of any hurdles potentially that we can take care of at this stage.

So what would be the con to the owner of changing their existing commercial to to your recommended mix use three from a development potential standpoint.

So we and that's why we wanted to to connect with you all if there's any and I can go back and we can always go back and look at the any surveys. We want to make sure that if we, you know, offer up a down zoning, if you will, because that's ultimately what it is, that we are not causing any incompatibilities with that zoning district. So we want to make sure we look at that. But the con is that, to be quite frank, GC2 is intense. What you see along 23rd Street, for the most part, that's GC2. So it allows for, it's very generous, very intense, but But given what is already established and what's been established there for years is a dental office, which is more consistent in line what we see in your neighborhood type of of zoning in your neighborhood zoning district. So what you want to do, what's existing is, yes, it fits well within GC2, but GC2's not necessarily required for that type of use, if that makes sense.

I mean, I get the concern that down the road, if they move on and somebody else buys the property at some point, that still would be GC two and, and capable of being something more than what they intended to be, which then affects the neighborhood. I get the concern.

Yes. And so we're in, so that's our, We understand that the current parcel, yes, it's GC2, but it's extending. Staff had a really hard time justifying that level of intensity into what's clearly established neighborhood. We had a hard time justifying that. Of course, we are more than happy to work with the applicant to come up with a strategy to see what you all think would work best. And so we would rather, of course, not provide a recommendation of denial. But given the nature of the request, we felt that it was the most appropriate for this case.

What are the major differences between GC1 and GC2? Because you mentioned that was a possibility as well as in view.

Yes, so when this initially came in, we looked at, of course, we looked at GC2, but also MU3 was something. Remember, we're also looking around what's in the general vicinity. So we're looking at MU3. and GC1 originally even though MU3 to be fair is further to the north we're taking into consideration the parcel both parcels proximity to that R1 residential area and so with GC1 you cannot have any type of density you cannot have dwellings But with MU3, that is a possibility. So if someone wanted to come in later on down the road and pivot and do more of a residential type of development, that's a possibility and still provide something gradual, residentially oriented going into the neighborhood. So that is something that we considered. Of course, GC1 is already immediately adjacent to the area and can also provide a gradual transition, but of course it would not allow for a mixed-use opportunity in the future if it came up. So both are considered, and I think all those things the applicant would want to consider, too, for their property.

Well, I think a lot of the concerns when we start considering changing the residential zoning it's just like he said when you change it they can come in and put anything they want that's commercial so you know i'm not saying they're not going to do what they say they're going to do but if they sell the property

Like a GC2 could be like a vehicle repair shop, a cannabis dispensary. There's other stuff. That's the concern.

Well, that's what I'm saying. You can sell the property, and the people next time you sell it to, they're not concerned about what the people think.

Well, we don't know.

I'm always skeptical when you come from... residential to commercial. That's just me, period. Because you got people that buying these houses, they're not buying them to be right next to a business. So when we start opening up residential to commercial, we're putting them out there. Especially the next door neighbor right there. Like you said, those are nice houses. That's a nice residential. I roll down the street, it look good. So if we... I don't know, maybe we can ask them if they will work with you, come back later on and see what we can do with this. May I ask some more questions?

Yeah. Do you guys mind coming back up to answer a couple more questions?

Thank you everyone for your input. That was very insightful. Yeah. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask.

So I guess my, my question to you is given that GC two can be a heavier load than what we would like to see in a residential area, you know, is given what we've talked about with GC one and the mixed use, are those options that you guys could consider as well? Cause I think we generally are feeling like GC two is probably a little heavy for what that property is. given that it's stretching into the neighborhood. Have you guys given thought to whether or not the GC1 or the MU could work for what you're looking to do? I mean, it sounds like either one effectively would allow you to do the things that you've described.

Correct. I know I've given it some thought. I guess I hate to do this, but I almost want to answer your question, everyone's question with a question, which is why did the city give GC2 designation to our current dental office, 2326 Frankfurt Avenue, because as it stands right now, that is butted up, as we are saying, against this residential neighborhood. So there is a precedent set for, and we're talking about a relatively small property, and whenever we're talking about businesses, you guys are small business owners, 0.3 of an acre. You know, most businesses these days, we're talking about minimum of an acre, any one that needs to actually properly build a proper business these days with parking and infrastructure and potentially a retention pond. But I guess that would be my question to the city is, it seems like there was a precedent set over here where a GC2 was allowed against a residential neighborhood. And for 35 plus years, it's worked out for the city. There's a health care facility, an integral health care facility, a facility that, you know, I know it belongs to us, and I don't mean to toot our own horn, but it's the highest rated dental office in all of Bay County. And that was made possible by a prior board that saw the vision for the comprehensive plan of Panama City and was like, yes, give these people an opportunity. Let's make it happen. And they made it happen. And this is the fruit of their labor, which is by allowing, as you said, Ms. Cherry, allowing a small business to flourish and not be over-regulated in that sense there. So in the grand scheme of things, we're not trying to add an acre into a residential neighborhood, two acres, three acres, 10 acres into a residential neighborhood, we're asking for a third of an acre, 0.3 of an acre to be able to join and combine with our existing GC2 in order to make that happen. Have we looked into the GC1 ME3? Come back now and answer your question. Yes, we've looked into it. It's something that can be considered, but as was previously discussed, it is difficult. Even though we've had a 35-plus year track record, it is difficult to give up that GC2 designation once it is there, is my input on it. I don't know if you have any more you want to add in that regard.

What are your concerns with stepping down to GC1?

having to do another meeting like this. I perform a lot better working on my patients than the human mouth. This is a very unnatural and uncomfortable talk.

I think we want to, we appreciate the things that you guys do as a business and part of being a community, but we want to find a way for us to accomplish doing the things that we need to do to help you get there but do so in the right way extending from where you're at you know whatever you are currently is what you are but extending that into a residential neighborhood we always take those things very seriously because we have to you know given the trade-off of what we're putting in people's you know residential neighborhoods so we have to of course and we want to find a way to get you guys what you need to do and and allow you to do it But I think maybe the other ones might lend itself more to the type of business that you currently are. And like I said, if we did a GC2, vehicle repair shops, cannabis dispensaries could theoretically come behind you. If you retire one day, sell the business, then those businesses can come behind you and put businesses in that residential neighborhood of that type as a GC2. Understandably.

So that's the concern. 100%. And trust me, I'm more concerned about... that turning into a cannabis dispensary shop or a vehicle repair shop than probably anyone else sitting on this board. And I genuinely mean that. Trust me, I don't want it to happen. Of course, this is just me saying this, but this is a family business. This is something that we intend to keep in that area and to allow it to continue to grow and move on. So if my word is of any meaning to any of you guys, that's my reassurance to you. If there's a way where we can get GC2 with a provision that it doesn't turn into a 24-hour commercial hub that's constantly buzzing or doesn't turn into a cannabis dispensary shop, that's something that we might be willing to look into as well if there is such a thing as a GC2 with these slight provisions or exclusions or things of that sort.

Any other questions?

I'm afraid you're going to get a denial, and then you'll be stuck versus willing.

Well, they still got to go to the city commission. So yours is a recommendation, so there's still. Right. Yeah.

I don't know if it came off the wrong way, but we're willing to work and look into the other options over here. It's just we really came in with the intent of maintaining what we have since we already have it. And then improving things for our neighborhood, for that street in particular, and all of Panama city in general, and literally just connecting it with a simple hallway. That way it's the same law, same parcel, same electric bill, same water bill, you know, things of that sort there. No, I think that's great. Just a path of least resistance, so to speak.

Chairman of process question. So this is just a question. So if the planning commission denies and the city council denies Does the owner have the opportunity then at that point to say, okay, I'll come back and reconsider? Are those options available?

They would have an option to come back and make a separate application.

A separate application.

And I will... This isn't part of your question, but I think it's still really relevant to it. A lot of times, too, what happens is maybe this goes up with a recommended denial from staff and a recommended denial from you all, and it gets to the city commission, and the city commission, when the applicant realizes that they are the final word on it, it may be, then maybe that's when everybody sits down and works things out. So... That's why I was quick to say, wait a minute, you're not the last word.

You knew that. I just wanted them to know that. I didn't mean to imply that. I just wanted to make sure that they understand they have an option now to act or not act. And then we have an option to agree or disagree. So there's steps within the process. So play your cards the way you want to play your cards.

I appreciate the clarification.

I want you to be informed about, you know, if you play a card, then these are your costs and consequences. Correct.

And I appreciate the clarification from the both of you in that regard. And to be clear, too, if there's a denial all the way through and then you decide, all right, we'll come back and work through the system, that's a new application fee and all those kind of things. You get to sit in the dentist chair again in front of us and feel uncomfortable. Exactly. This is payback for that pain.

So I do want to, and I want to just, just add on. Um, so if, if the scenario is, cause currently you're sitting with a, um, with a recommendation of denial from staff, of course, um, the board's decision today, they will also provide a recommendation and all of that will go before the city commission for the, and they will make the final decision. Um, if they, if they do, deny the request, just so you're aware. The same request, so exactly what you have now, can't come back for 12 months. You can come back, you have to reapply, different application and all of that, if you wanted to have MU3 or GC1 or some other request. But to clarify, that's why our goal now is to say, hey, while you're already in this, let's try to have a conversation and everyone have their ducks in the row before you get before the city commission. That's what I would, if I can offer any wisdom, that is what I would like to offer.

I appreciate it. We definitely have infinite wisdom and a lot more than I do and we do in this regard. And I appreciate your feedback on that point there. Absolutely.

I would like to ask a question. Where the applicant be willing that we table this and y'all work it out with the city and then you come back?

That's something that I would like to discuss with my business partner, my brother in this regard over here, but I know we came in today with the intention of keeping our property as a GC2 and transitioning this new property in question on 2015 West 23rd Court as a GC2 as well. That was our intention for today, but we can definitely

discuss it further after this meeting you're saying so if we if this board makes a decision today then they could essentially meet with you if it's if this board recommended aisle in between now and could revise the application before it goes to the commission

is that correct yes so the the only nuance is um if if yes if if the board recommends denial today we would reach out to you all because what what are what we would do and we can do right now which is why time is important we can work and try to make sure that the very next planning board meeting because again we want to make sure that both parcels are consistent with each other in terms of zoning and that will require that they come back because you're expanding the zoning in the land use area so if we're going smaller that's one thing but since we're expanding that is you know there's an another noticing component and all of that so there's there are several things we want to look at here and there are several things we have to do correctly process and statute wise so we just want to make sure all our T's are dot and all our eyes are crossed of course and they give staff the opportunity to speak with the applicant and the applicant of course to take all of this consideration because it's quite a lot so thank you all right do I have a motion thank you gentlemen thank you motion to deny motion to have a second motion second please take roll

Board Member Terry?

Yes.

Board Member Barker? Yes. Board Member Rich?

Yes.

Chairman Neubauer? Yes. Motion passes 4-0.

Thank you. So I encourage you guys to meet with staff between now and the, let's see what the date on that is. July 14th is the first city commission date.

So there will be two readings at the city commission. There will be a first reading because this is an ordinance change, and then after that will be the hearing. So that will be July 14th, and then let's move on.

28.

28.

So your first of two public hearings is July 14, and second and final is 28. Thank you. All right.

Request letter B.

Request letter B is case number ending in 1326. The applicant is requesting a vacation of right of way. they're trying to vacate an alleyway located directly east of the parcel of address 519 east 6th street and it runs north of east 6th street and south of east 7th street and the applicant and owner is jimmy branch any questions first now i would just like to add that the city has no infrastructure in this alleyway no water sewer no drainage

It's an old platted alleyway that was never utilized. And the applicant, Mr. branch owns property on both sides of the valley.

And Michael, I read that, that I wasn't sure what that meant when we look at our numbers. So If you'll share with us, when we look at our overview, which numbers does the owner...

Looking at the aerial, that means he owns 519 and 525. Okay. He also owns 630 and 662. Okay. And 531. 531, okay.

Is that the entirety of that left strip adjacent to Allen Avenue?

Yes.

That whole stretch? Yeah. It's everything. And this.

OK.

Thank you.

It doesn't go any further either direction, correct? OK.

And I think when you're doing your report, you did say owns everything next, but it wasn't specified. It's 519, it's 630. I think that information and that level of detail would be helpful.

um when you have a blank blanket statement like that i think we had it outlined a couple of months ago where like we had a property in question that had outline or something like that yeah yeah that's helpful well that that would be the affected property but i guess when they're all like that right when is that doable yes okay okay i think that would help us to kind of figure that out a little faster we're not always very we're not always very fast so well me

Any other questions? Is the applicant here to speak on this?

You don't look like Jimmy.

Anna Branch, 316 Park Avenue. And yes, I was sworn in. I'm happy to answer any questions you have. They've owned the entire block for over 30 years. Don't have any plans set in stone yet, but looking to possibly sell off and activate some commercial space there. And the alleyway running right in the middle kind of stops that.

Right. And so what's the dimensions like? How wide is this alleyway? And then how long is it? It's just a long. Oh, gosh.

Good question. But I think it's gosh, I don't want to tell you the wrong thing. I think it's about ten feet wide. I'm not sure off the top of my head how long that block is.

But the length of the block. So 10 feet wide is really the heart of the question. Yeah, 10 feet wide.

Yeah, it's 10 feet. Okay.

And the width.

But it does span the entire block. Sure. Because we had a letter from...

citizen about this and you know wanted to acknowledge that we've received the letter from Miss Langston and she had some concerns and I wasn't sure because I knew on the board when a citizen writes us and ask us questions do we as a board typically kind of go through those concerns and let staff you know talk talk about those concerns and Is that something that typically is done or we just acknowledge that we received it?

Go ahead. I'll just say you treat it like any other public comment that you get.

Okay. Thank you.

Which would be unless you ask staff, they're not going to answer those questions.

Gotcha. Okay. Okay. Are there any other questions for the applicant?

Thank you. Thanks.

I would just point out that the fact that the alley does not connect to outside of these parcels anywhere kind of addresses some of the concerns in this letter. Right. It's not a through street for the parcels. Right.

That's why there was really no follow-up questions related to her concerns. Do I have a motion?

Motion to approve. Second. Motion second. Please take a roll.

Board Member Cherry.

Yes.

Board Member Barker. Yes. Board Member Rich. Yes. Chairman Neubauer. Yes. Motion passes 4-0.

Thank you.

This is also going to the 14th.

Yes, this will also go to.

This will be heard on the 14th of July also.

All right, this brings us to the audience participation portion for agenda. Does anyone wish to make any public comments?

Viv, you got anything to say?

I wanted to, if possible, wanted to make, for audience participation, I just wanted to give a shout out and a thank you to Mr. Nicholas Kane. This will be his last meeting with us. he is moving on his career so I just wanted to tell him thank you for his time when in our division he came over to us from building services and he served as our planner one for a little over a year now and so we just want to say we appreciate him and he will we wish him the best of luck and all his future endeavors so thank you Nick good luck man thank you