City Traffic Commission - Regular Meeting

Wednesday, June 10, 2026

The City Traffic Commission approved a loading zone on N. Lemon Street and red curbs on Kendra Drive, California Street, and Highland Street. Public comments included concerns about parking loss due to red curb installations and support for safety improvements.

About this meeting

Government Body
City Traffic Commission
Meeting Type
City Traffic Commission
Location
Orange, CA
Meeting Date
June 10, 2026

Transcript

109 sections

0:00Speaker 7

We will move on to the Pledge of Allegiance that will be led by Commissioner Freeman.

0:07Speaker 3

Please stand with your hand over your heart and join me in the pledge.

0:11 – 0:23Speaker 8

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

0:24Speaker 7

Great, thank you. With that, we'll move on to the roll call. Francisco?

0:34Speaker 6

We'll begin with roll call. Vice Chair Ritchie?

0:39Speaker 6

Commissioner Barberito?

0:41Speaker 6

Commissioner Chavarria?

0:43Speaker 6

Commissioner Redding?

0:45Speaker 6

Commissioner Freeman? Here. Commissioner Deliani-Bridges?

0:50Speaker 6

And Chair Felice?

0:51Speaker 7

I'm present as well.

0:52Speaker 6

We have a quorum present.

0:54 – 1:43Speaker 7

Great, thank you. All right, with that, we'll move on to item two, which is the public comments, which is an opportunity for members of the public to address the traffic commission on matters not listed on the agenda, which are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission, provided that no action may be taken on off-agenda items. Unless authorized by law, public comments are limited to three minutes per speaker. Are there any? There are. I don't know. And there's nothing on the screen. Thank you. Shea Murphy. Yes, please come up to the podium. And this is on an off agenda item, not an item that's on the current agenda. Thank you.

1:45 – 2:32Speaker 10

Yeah, it's just my first time. I don't know the best way to address it, but we live nearby Sycamore Avenue, and we had a curb right in front of our house painted red, and it was just kind of an isolated spot, and we're not sure if it's like something targeted, but I called to ask, you know, what the reason was and how it got approved because there's no crosswalk there. As far as I can tell, it's not really obstructing anything. There's no fire hydrant. And it's a huge inconvenience for us because we have five people that live in that space. So any parking right there is, you know, like I park there every day. I'm just kind of wondering what the protocol for that is and if I can get, you know, if we sign a petition, if we can get that reversed and what the steps are for that. Yeah, 2024 East Sycamore Avenue. Okay.

2:32Speaker 7

Thank you. I would just advise that you speak to staff after the meeting and they can explain to you the process.

2:36Speaker 10

Okay. Thank you.

2:37 – 3:38Speaker 7

Thank you. All right. Any other public comments? Seeing none, we'll close that portion. All right. With that, we'll move on to item three, which is an approval of minutes. I get a motion to approve the minutes. MOVED BY COMMISSIONER FREEMAN, SECONDED BY VICE CHAIR, OH, NOPE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CHEVERY. I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL FOR THE VOTE. ALL IN FOR, WHAT AM I DOING? WRONG MEETING, LINKING IN THE OTHER WAY. ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, WE WILL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS. We'll move to item 4.1, which is the proposed loading zone in front of 233 North Lemon Street. Can we get the staff report, please?

3:41 – 7:03Speaker 11

Good evening, Chairman and members of the Traffic Commission. I'm June Yvong, an associate engineer with Traffic Engineering Division. Item 4.1 is a request for a loading zone in front of 233 North Lemon Street. Staff received a request from the business at 233 North Lemon Street for the city to consider installing an enforceable loading zone along their business frontage. The 200 block of North Lemon is a two-lane roadway with a width of 40 feet. Land uses on this block include commercial, industrial, and residential. Parking is currently permitted on both sides of the street. On the west side of the block is Chapman University. To the south of 233 North Lemon Street is Wall 28 and Antepasado Park. To the north are residential properties that are within the Chapman University Opportunity Area. And the entire block is outside of the Old Town Paid Parking Program footprint. This slide shows existing conditions as well as proposed actions to establish the loading zone. As you can see, the curb along the frontage has already been painted yellow. However, there is no record of the city having approved the installation. Because of this uncertainty over its origin and the length, Staff recommends establishing the loading zone between the two driveways, which is approximately 35 feet. The remaining yellow curb in front of the property would be removed. This approach allows for enforceability, which the business expressed a need for while balancing the area's curb management needs. This slide shows the proposed conditions. Because Lemon Street is a public road, the proposed loading zone would not be exclusive to the business and would be available for public use. In accordance with Chapter 10.26 of the Orange Municipal Code, the loading or unloading of passengers shall not Exceed five minutes and the loading or unloading of materials shall not exceed 20 minutes unless otherwise specified by motion or resolution The parking time limit in the zone shall be enforced from 7 a.m. To 6 p.m. Sundays and holidays accepted Adding signage as shown on the slide will help enforce said municipal code And then this slide illustrates the proposed loading zone as yellow curb. As you can see, it's contained between the property's two driveways and is a small fraction of the business's street frontage. The remaining curb will be unrestricted In order to provide Lemon Street with a loading zone while balancing the area's curb management needs, staff recommends that the City Traffic Commission recommend the installation of the 35-foot-long loading zone at 233 North Lemon Street and forward this item to City Council for approval. This concludes my report, and I am available to answer any questions at this time.

7:04Speaker 7

Great, thank you. Any questions for staff at this time? Go ahead, Commissioner Rudd.

7:10 – 7:25Speaker 9

Hey, staff, thanks for doing that. Just a question about the portion of the yellow curb that was not authorized. What's the plan for that? Would it just be moved back into general use? Yes, correct. Okay, thank you.

7:27 – 7:43Speaker 7

Any other questions for staff? Seeing none, I'll go ahead and open the public portion. Do we have any speakers on this item? Seeing none, we'll go ahead and close the public portion and bring it back to the Commission.

7:50 – 8:02Speaker 17

Chairman Felice, I move to approve the recommended action of installing a 35-foot loading zone in front of 233 North Lemon Street as presented.

8:03Speaker 14

I'll second that motion.

8:05Speaker 7

You guys want to help her out? And then when you show her how to use the mic as well. Press view vote.

8:14 – 9:02Speaker 7

And then you can press. Oh, sorry. Just hit. Sorry. They're still learning some of the systems here. Perfect. All right. We have a first and a second. I'll go ahead and call for the vote. Okay. Motion in progress. All right, with that, the motion passes unanimously. With that, we'll move on to item 4.2, which is the installation of 25 feet of red curb on the west side of Kinder Drive, north of Hampshire Road. We'll go ahead and ask for the staff report on this one as well.

9:03 – 10:34Speaker 5

Good evening, Chairman and members of the Traffic Commission. Item 4.2 is the request to install 25 feet of red curb on the west side of Kendra Drive, north of Hampshire Road. Staff received a request for the city to consider installing red curb on the northwest corner of Kendra Drive and Hampshire Road intersection to enhance visibility and driver comfort. Kendra Drive is a two-lane roadway at its intersection with Hampshire Road. Parking is permitted on the west side of the street The land used along this stretch of Kendra Drive is generally comprised of single family residences. Kendra Drive from Portico Terrace to Cheshire Road is a 25 mile per hour street. The site sketch shown illustrates the proposed 25 feet of red curb on the west side of Kendra Drive, north of Hampshire Road. A field review conducted by city staff determined that there is approximately 170 feet of curbside parking available north of Hampshire Road. The installation of 25 feet of red curb would result in the loss of approximately one parking space. To provide easier access to and from Hampshire Road, and enhance visibility, staff recommends that the City Traffic Commission consider the request for 25 feet of red curb on the west side of Kendra Drive, north of Hampshire Road. This concludes my report, and I'm available to answer any questions at this time.

10:34 – 10:50Speaker 7

Great, thank you. Any questions for staff? Seeing none, we'll go ahead and open the public portion on this. Looks like we have a couple of speakers. Up first, we have Anna Bees, and then up after Anna is Michael Young.

10:52 – 12:43Speaker 2

baez i live actually on that corner and when we first got the letter saying that you wanted to install the red curb or somebody who had proposed the installation of red curb on kendra is very vague it didn't say anything about the 25 feet And over the past couple of years, we've been dealing with somebody from the neighborhood calling the city parking every day to come out and post notices on everybody's car. So at that point, it kind of alarmed me that you guys were going to paint the entire red curb because it didn't specify the 25 feet, which means that we would lose all of our parking for any family or friends to ever be able to come over again. So that's where my opposition was coming in from. As far as this is my house, I emailed everybody on the commission, but this is my house. I already have a red curb here and the fire hydrants there. So painting that distance could, obviously you could see why that would be a problem for us. But as far as the 25 feet, I have no issue with because I myself every day turning left out of there, it is difficult to see when cars are parked there. Our family parks in the driveway primarily and in front. But just like I said, if that ever became an issue, I know that it is an issue because it's ongoing. I talk to the officers that come out there every day about it. I would definitely want to make sure that I would be opposed to something like that. But the 25 feet, no, not so much. And then on the photo where you have where it's going to start, it looks like it's starting a little further back. But I think if it's starting like here where the dip goes down for the handicapped access, that if it starts up further, the 25 feet from there is better than skipping that like 5 or 10 feet and then going back 25 feet. Because then you're kind of moving way back down the street. I don't know, I'm for the safety of the 25 feet, but if it gets beyond that and if that's what's starting this, I'm not for that at all.

12:46 – 13:01Speaker 7

Great, thank you. Do you guys want copies? You can hand them over to Francisco here. Thank you. All right, Michael Young. And then up after Michael, we have Jacob Gallagher. Yeah, sorry.

13:02 – 14:14Speaker 1

Yeah, thanks for letting me speak. This is, you know, you're not really seeing the good pictures. When there's cars parked there, right, you have to pretty much go in the intersection to make a left turn. You can't see, there's no visibility whatsoever, completely obstructed. And I don't know, we've been there like 23 years. It seemed like it wasn't an issue before, but I know more and more people are parking there. Then if there's parties on the weekend, it's a dangerous situation. So either you're going to go left or right, you've got to pull out. And I'm saying, what is going on here? I know for a while I just said, this is not going to work. Now, I'm in the insurance business. I handle claims over 40 years, so I know how these things work. If something does happen, there's no doubt. The insurance company or the person that's pulling out is going to drag the city into this because it wasn't safe. It should have been painted. It should have been safer. It's definitely something, a bone of contention there that you have to deal with. So to do 25 feet would be great. It'd just be much safer for the community. You don't want to see an accident. A lot of kids around there, e-bike kids, bikers, whatever you want to do. You just don't want to have any problems where someone's pulling out right or left and there could be an accident. But like I say, sometimes there's a lot of cars parked there. So it's much safer if something gets done. Not the whole street, but just like 25 feet would be good.

14:17Speaker 7

Great. Thank you. Good? All right.

14:31 – 15:07Speaker 15

Good afternoon, I too was concerned when I got the letter to paint the entire street red. That I don't support the 25 feet is okay. There is somebody that is chronically calling The Orange Police Department, there are traffic enforcement people up there every day because they don't want people parking there for whatever the reason is. When we have parties, parking is impacted up there. There's not a lot of parking. More people are living at home. The kids are living at home. So we do need that parking. So if you want to do the 25 feet, I think that's okay. But please don't do the entire roadway. Thanks. Great, thank you.

15:07Speaker 2

This is my first time doing this, but I think the situation is the people that are parking there don't live in the main, they don't live in the immediate neighborhood.

15:17 – 15:31Speaker 7

Thank you. All right, with that, I'll go ahead and close the public portion and bring it back to the commission. And just a reminder to the commission, if you are the maker of the motion, please read the title in full before you make the motion.

15:37 – 16:08Speaker 8

I have a question for staff. Can you bring up the photo that you had with the proposed red painting? Yeah, correct, right there. So the question I have is, you show this red paint, can it be brought down a couple of feet to cover this water meter that's here or whatever this irrigation box or meter is so that way city staff can get to it if they need? because people will end up parking closer to this, or has that been taken into account for?

16:08 – 16:36Speaker 16

Mr. Commissioner, the staff could, if it pleases the commission, extend the red curb to cover that area in front of the utility box. That said, it would be unnecessary It's that area between the proposed red curb and the actual wheelchair ramp where it comes down in the street. That's generally off limits because if anyone were to park there, they would be blocking the wheelchair ramp, which is a citable offense. But we could certainly extend the red curb.

16:37Speaker 8

Okay, well, having said that, I'll pass on that because I didn't know where the approach was starting. Is it this picture doesn't show the approach or is that where it starts right there?

16:46Speaker 7

Do you have the overhead view?

16:47 – 17:08Speaker 8

Yeah, so if we, if, all right. I guess the beginning of that radius would be the question, is where does it start? And again, we don't want to block anything for ADA compliance, but if it's applicable, that way nobody parked in front of it or blocked it.

17:08Speaker 16

Sure. Maybe in light of your concerns, that's what we can do. The 25 feet plus the area in front of the pull box.

17:18Speaker 8

Is that 18 inches, give or take?

17:20 – 17:32Speaker 7

Okay. It also looks like the site sketch and the mock-up picture don't coincide with each other. This looks like it is on the radii of that VCR there. Yeah, I think you're correct.

17:32 – 17:48Speaker 16

I apologize for that. But yes, as presented, the plan was to start at the end of the radius and go away from it, and now we'll do that plus whatever distance is necessary to cover the area in front of the pull box.

17:49 – 18:12Speaker 16

So the site sketch is the actual correct? It would be almost a hybrid. If you go back to the previous image, it would be that plus, no, the last one, Jose. Yeah, so what you see here, plus we're going to extend it to go in front of that pull box. So it's an extra like two or three feet.

18:13 – 18:27Speaker 9

Two feet probably would cover it. A QUESTION FOR STAFF, SINCE WE'RE CONSIDERING EXTENDING THE PAINT, WHEN THEY ACCESS THAT BOX, ARE THEY STANDING IN THE STREET OR ARE THEY STANDING ON THE SIDEWALK WHEN THEY WORK IN THERE?

18:30 – 18:47Speaker 16

I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE NATURE OF THE WORK. I THINK FOR A LOT OF APPLICATIONS, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO DO IT ENTIRELY WITHIN THE SIDEWALK AREA. THERE MAY BE CERTAIN, DEPENDING ON THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE, THEY MAY NEED TO ACCESS IT FROM THE STREET SIDE. IT'S HARD TO DETERMINE AS A GENERIC RESPONSE.

18:48 – 19:03Speaker 7

This is a street light electrical box. That's what that is. It's not a water main or anything like that. Most likely they'll access it from parking their truck in front there and then walking on the sidewalk.

19:04 – 19:55Speaker 17

All right. I'll make a quick comment, then I'll probably make a motion. I think as it presented, when I did enforcement of these kind of Tickets, like I mentioned, where it stops, that's where the decline starts of the ramp, and that is a sizable offense. So the point might be moved of extending it. It wouldn't hurt to do so, because it's still the same. You can't park there anyway. They can't park beyond it. So I think someone's probably calling, too, as some weird interpretation of like daylighting, like the daylighting law. So having this right will kind of clear it up for anybody, and it looks exactly, I think this looks fine the way it is. So with that being said, I'll see if I can make a motion here. I move to approve item 4.2, installation of 25 feet of red curb on the west side of Kendra Drive, north of Hampshire Road, as presented with the recommended action.

19:55Speaker 7

If you're going to extend the 25 feet, can you make sure that's clear? Or the additional footage?

20:02Speaker 17

Do I need to patrol?

20:03Speaker 7

We could. Was it 18 inches? It's up to you. You're the maker of the motion.

20:10Speaker 17

I think the point's moot because if they park anywhere beyond that, they're going to be in violation anyway, so I just wanna.

20:18Speaker 7

You can't, we're not gonna have any back and forth.

20:25 – 20:43Speaker 17

So let's hear, let's continue on. If somebody wants to challenge or correct it, they can on the dais. So I want to make a motion to approve item 4.2, insulation 25 feet of red curb on the west side of Kendra Drive north of Hampshire Road as presented, no additional extensions.

20:50 – 21:17Speaker 7

I'll motion for you. All right, we have a first and a second. I'll go ahead and call for the vote. With that, the vote passes unanimously. Great, thank you. All right, we'll move on to item 4.3, was the installation of a school bus loading zone on the west side of California Street adjacent to California Academy.

21:20 – 23:44Speaker 5

Thank you. Item 4.3 is for the request to install a school bus loading zone on the west side of California Street adjacent to California Inspire Academy. For the 2026-2027 school year, California Inspire Academy will expand services to include a mild-moderate special day class program. The new program is expected to result in more bus trips to and from the school. In anticipation of the parking slash traffic impacts related to the special day class program, and in an effort to better optimize site circulation, Orange Unified School District proposes an adjustment to California Inspire Academy's pickup and drop off operations that involves the installation of a bus loading zone on California Street. More specifically, Orange Unified School District has requested designating a 50-foot-long section adjacent to California Inspire Academy as a bus loading zone from 7 a.m. to 4 p.m. on school days. Doing so would ensure the curb space is available for school buses and any violations of the curb restriction are enforceable. California Street is a local residential street with light traffic volumes. The proposed loading zone spans approximately 50 feet and lies along the 450-foot school frontage. Parking demand in the surrounding neighborhood is low, and the establishment of a school bus loading zone is not anticipated to impose any hardship on area residents. Outside school hours, the loading zone would remain available for general parking. The site sketch shown illustrates the proposed school bus loading zone on the west side of California Street adjacent to California Inspire Academy. In addition to the 50 foot bus loading zone, staff will install an additional 25 feet of red curb on either side of the bus loading zone south of the exit driveway of California Inspire Academy to provide an increased buffer between the school buses and the nearest driveways. To enhance school site and perimeter circulation, staff recommends that the City Traffic Commission consider the request for a school bus loading zone and associated red curb on the west side of California Street between Adams Avenue and Collins Avenue. This concludes my report, and I am available to answer any questions at this time.

23:44Speaker 7

Thank you. Any questions for staff, Commissioner Redding?

23:49 – 24:21Speaker 9

I thank you for that work. I looked at this last night. It may have been a bit late because I saw a discrepancy in the location. So I'm just asking, uh, again, I could be wrong, but I'm asking for clarification on the location. Cause it seems like the, the agenda said West side of California street between Adams and Collins. But the staff report says North side of California between Adams and Quincy. The sketch shows West side, California near Quincy. At least that's the way I remember it. Uh,

24:23 – 24:48Speaker 5

Yeah, so I believe the north refers to further north on California Street, as opposed to maybe the south half between Adams and the long stretch that is to Collins. But the proposed loading zone is on the west side of the street. It is on the west side, okay.

24:48 – 25:01Speaker 7

Now, I'll just ask the city attorney here, Any problems if the agenda had the improper information? I know the noticing probably went out to the same area, however.

25:03 – 25:14Speaker 4

Well, first I'd like to confirm that it did before we made the announcement, but if it did, then no, that would be a minor clerical error and we'd have the correct on the record, but let's check that real quick if we can.

25:18 – 25:33Speaker 7

I don't have a printed copy of it. You have one, Larry, or? I'm sorry, was this the notification letter? No, the title on the published agenda.

25:33 – 25:49Speaker 16

Oh, so yeah, the recommended action is, as it reads, is to approve the installation of a school bus loading zone and associated red curb on the west side of California Street between Adams and Collins Avenue. And the subject of the staff report also said west side, adjacent to the California Inspire Academy.

25:51Speaker 16

What would the agenda say? It would say, reflect the same to, let me see here.

25:57Speaker 7

Are you sure you read that right?

25:59Speaker 16

Yeah, the agenda, the title is the same thing. Title is West Side of the Street Adjacent to the Academy and Recommended Action on the West Side of California Street.

26:08 – 26:22Speaker 7

Okay, I'm comfortable. I'm comfortable with that. I believe you. Thank you, sir. Perfect. Go ahead, Jose.

26:24 – 26:38Speaker 5

So I do have a copy of the printed staff report. What Larry has said is correct. I believe what Commissioner Redding was referring to is in the body of this discussion and background.

26:38 – 27:06Speaker 7

Okay, perfect. Thank you. All right. With that, we will open up the public portion. And I cannot see if there's any speakers. Looks like there's no speakers on this, so I'll go ahead and close the public portion and bring it back to the Commission. Someone else's turn.

27:07 – 27:28Speaker 8

Someone else's turn. I'D LIKE TO MOTION FOR THE INSTALLATION OF A SCHOOL BUS LOADING ZONE ON THE WEST SIDE OF CALIFORNIA STREET ADJACENT TO CALIFORNIA INSPIRE ACADEMY.

27:28 – 28:04Speaker 7

WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER FREEMAN. WITH THAT I'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL FOR THE VOTE. WITH THAT THE MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. All right, we'll move on to item 4.4, which looks like all of you are here for tonight, is the installation of 35 feet of red curb on the northwest corner of Highland Street and Dana Place intersection. Is that it?

28:05 – 29:35Speaker 5

Thank you. Item 4.4 is for the request to install 35 feet of red curb on the northwest corner of Highland Street and Dana Place. A neighborhood resident requested that the city restrict parking on the northwest corner to enhance pedestrian access. Highland Street is a 25 mile per hour local residential street at its intersection with Dana Place. Permit parking has been activated on both sides of Highland Street between Sycamore Avenue and the south terminus. A field review conducted by city staff determined that there is approximately 110 feet of curbside parking available on the north side of Dana Place between Highland Street and Park Lane. The site sketch shown illustrates the proposed 35 feet of red curb on the northwest corner of Highland Street and Dana Place. While recent records do not indicate any reported collisions at this intersection, said resident has expressed discomfort when navigating through the area if vehicles are parked near the corner. Moreover, a future curb ramp is planned at the affected intersection corner, and the proposed red curb is also expected to discourage parked vehicles from blocking the ramp. To enhance pedestrian access at the northwest corner of Highland Street and Dana Place, staff recommends that the City Traffic Commission consider the request for 35 feet of red curb on said corner. This concludes my report and I'm available to answer any questions at this time.

29:38 – 29:49Speaker 7

Great, thank you. Just a clarification, you mentioned that in the future they're planning on installing a ramp at that particular corner?

29:51 – 30:03Speaker 16

Yes, Mr. Chairman. For, I think, next summer, we have programmed a curb ramp for that particular location. Okay, great.

30:04 – 31:03Speaker 7

Thank you. It's unusual that we see these corners painted in this type of style. So I was wondering, my follow-up question was, when was the intended ramp going to be installed? So it sounds like it's part of the next fiscal year. That's correct. Any other questions for staff? I'm seeing none. I will open up the public portion here. Marilyn Bogut is up first, and then after that, she says Nadia. If you wouldn't mind coming up. Did you fill out a card already? No? If you want to make a comment, we could ask you to just fill out a card real quick on this. THE FIRST PERSON IS DECLINING AND THE SECOND PERSON IS, IF YOU CAN GET A CARD AND THEN YOU CAN COME IN NEXT.

31:19 – 34:33Speaker 12

Thank you so much for your attention. I am representing the apartment community that's right adjacent to Dana Place. And if possible, could we bring up the map? of that intersection. Yeah, that would be perfect. And I also printed a few extra copies just to kind of give you guys a visual because this map doesn't really do it justice in terms of what happened in this neighborhood. So there are three different apartment communities in the area along with residential homes. And if you were to live in that area, especially in an apartment community, you would experience continuous reminders that the street is owned by single family residence homes and that we should not be parking there. Actually, if you were to zoom out, you would see that the whole Highland and Park Lane and also Palm Avenue have been permitted now. So essentially, if you live in a single family residence home, you don't only have a benefit of having your own garage, space in front of the garage but also you can park in the street with a permit So this is all great, except there are three apartment communities that grew along with this whole community. And I specifically live in Orangewood Apartments and quite a few residents in our apartment community park on Dana Place. Dana Place is the only little nuke, little street that's left that's our residents are able still to park on that street. And actually, after creating permitted parking on Highland, on Park Lane, and Palm Avenue, What we're experiencing is a lot of guests that come and either stay or come over for holidays or whatnot with the owners of the homes. They end up not having a permit to park on those permitted streets. And the homeowners direct them to park their vehicles on that little strip of Dana Place. In addition, since there are two other apartment communities, the overflow ends up on Dana Place as well. So as you can imagine, what I'm trying to lead to is that the parking is becoming more and more limited. Yet the apartment communities, they've been built in 1960s. Thank you. And so that's expired. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Just please consider not painting it because that would take away quite a bit of parking that people need.

34:34Speaker 7

All right. Regina.

34:38 – 35:22Speaker 13

I just wanted to say that I live on Highland. And it is very annoying because you have to pull all the way out. There's these humongous trucks. And one of them is a big red truck. The other one has a camper. You have to pull all the way out from Highland onto Dana. And I know she, being an apartment person, But the car, it's just going to be an accident. It's an accident waiting to happen. And we got kids in the neighborhood, people who race up and down the streets. They don't slow down. I'm afraid I'm going to hit somebody or something. So if you guys could just maybe consider painting. Yeah, please. Thanks. Thank you.

35:22Speaker 7

All right. With that, we will close the public portion and bring it back to the commission.

35:26 – 35:52Speaker 17

A question for Larry. Really quick with the permit parking. I know multifamily has been changed over the last couple of years. What is the threshold or the maximum? It's like four plexes, six pluses. Like multifamily can get, it used to be just single family, but that changed a little while ago. What's the max unit count before we cut off? Because I know we can't give it to like to an 18 apartment complex.

35:53Speaker 16

Sure, Mr. Vice Chair.

35:57Speaker 17

So you're correct.

35:58 – 36:26Speaker 16

A couple years ago, there was a change in the city's policy and also in the municipal code that allows multifamily to participate in the program. And my understanding is that the Orangewood Villas are actually a part of that Opportunity Area 3, which also includes a portion of Wayfield Street north of Chapman. So there is one complex in the area that already has the ability to obtain permits.

36:29 – 37:11Speaker 17

Okay, that way they know and then I'm sure they can come up ask questions about it. And then a comment then I'll turn. I think this is good to have the red curve because if it's gonna be a ramp anyway, if it's gonna be a ramp anyway, you know, the red curb, is this gonna get people acclimated to not parking in that same spot? And then when they remove the red curb and put in the ramp, there's gonna be no color to it, so people are gonna park there and get a ticket. So this is, I think this is gonna kind of get people in that mindset of don't park on that corner. But I'll yield for a second. Anyone else has any questions? If not, I'll start the motion. Additional questions?

37:13Speaker 3

I was just gonna say, I agree, it's a temporary Because something's coming up anyway, so it's a temporary situation. What is the regulation about parking on corners anyways? Is there?

37:24 – 38:28Speaker 16

So you've heard the daylighting. I think we discussed this at the last meeting. That actually restricts parking within 20 feet of an approach. And in this particular case, there's no sidewalk on that one side of the street. So I think one can argue, is it really a pedestrian approach? IN TERMS OF CAN CARS PARK WITHIN THE RADIUS AREA, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ORANGE POLICE DOES NOT CITE UNLESS YOU'RE ACTUALLY BLOCKING A WHEELCHAIR RAMP. AND BECAUSE THERE'S NO RAMP IN THIS CASE, THERE WOULD BE NO CITATIONS ISSUE. AGAIN, SOME OF THAT WOULD CHANGE ONCE THE RAMP GOES IN. AND A LOT OF WHAT'S CURRENTLY BEING PROPOSED WOULD BE UNPARKABLE ANYWAYS, BUT NOT NECESSARILY IN ITS ENTIRETY. SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, WHICH IS TO GO ALL THE WAY AROUND, would be just a little bit more than what would be involved in terms of daylighting and blocking the ramp. So this just brings, again, I think the parking restriction, it just accelerates the timeline a little bit forward to address some of the residents' concerns.

38:28 – 38:47Speaker 17

All right. Well, with that, I... Move to approve item 4.4, installation of 35 feet of red curb on the northwest corner of the Highland Street and Dana Place intersection with the recommended action.

38:53 – 39:16Speaker 7

All right, we'll give it to Steve as the second there. All right, with that, I'll go ahead and call for the vote. All right, with that, the motion passes unanimously as well. All right, well, with that, we'll go ahead and I'll go ahead and adjourn the meeting and the next.

39:16 – 39:42Speaker 4

Before we adjourn, I'd just like to note on the record that there actually was on item 4.3, the recommended action and the agenda were correct and the actual motion was correct on the west side of California Street. But in the second paragraph, the discussion of background, it does state that the north side of California Street. So we'll note that in the minutes, but I just wanted to make sure that was on the record. Thank you. Thank you.

39:43 – 40:03Speaker 9

All right, with that, I just have a follow-up to that prompt. It seems like the staff report was recommending the north side. That's what I caught last night. But the action today and what was voted on today was the west side. So I just want to make sure we are doing what the staff report suggested. because as it goes tonight, we are not.

40:06Speaker 7

The recommended action is correct.

40:08Speaker 9

The recommended action came from the staff report though, right?

40:11Speaker 7

Right, but the body... But the staff report says the north side. We didn't read in the body paragraph. We read in the title.

40:19Speaker 9

Okay, but does the body discovery information matter?

40:22 – 40:34Speaker 7

That's why I asked for clarification from the city attorney. If there was a clerical error, what we would go with is a recommended action, which I don't remember who the maker of that read. Okay.

40:34 – 40:50Speaker 4

And in my opinion at this stage, we have more than enough evidence in the record for what the commission actually intends to happen going forward, which is the west side. So I think we're okay. We'll note in the minutes that there was a clerical error and correct that. And thank you for noticing that.

40:53 – 41:12Speaker 14

I just had a staff request on the site maps in the future. Can we show a little bit larger area so we can see what's going on in the area? Luckily, I have my iPad and I can pull up and see the different apartment buildings, but it would be helpful for the audience if they could actually see the same thing.

41:14Speaker 16

Sure, I think we can provide a vicinity map as well as a more focused site map.

41:18Speaker 14

Thank you very much. That's it.

41:21 – 41:33Speaker 7

Thank you. All right, with that, we will adjourn the meeting, and the next regular Traffic Commission meeting will be held on Wednesday, August 12, 2026, 5.30 p.m. here in the Council Chamber. Thanks, everyone.

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