Design Review Board - Regular Meeting

Good afternoon. I would like to call to order the City of Lincoln Design Review July 23rd, 2026 special meeting at 12.01. Roll call. We'll have Matt Alves, absent. Ronnie Bradley, here. Ben Kaye, absent. Sean Freitas, here. Michelle Hutchinson, here. Angela Mejia, absent. And myself, Efrain Sanchez.

Just one small correction.

It's 201. Yeah.

Yes. All right. Moving on to item number three. Do we have any citizens who would like to draft the committee within the subject matter jurisdiction of the committee? Is there anyone in the room that like to speak? Seeing none, is there anyone on Zoom?

No, hands raised, online.

Thank you. Then we'll go ahead and move on to item number four, projects under review. And we'll start off with item 4A, recommend planning position to approve the apartment at Hidden Hills production home design. I'll hand it over to Michelle Noble.

Hi, everyone. I'm Mahala Noble, Associate Planner here in the city. Unfortunately, for these three projects, Tom Crookshank, the assigned planner on the project, is on jury duty. So I will be filling in. So please bear with me on this. Not totally up to date on the projects. But the Heartland project today, it's a 14-lot subdivision, which Fieldstone Communities is proposing to build three floor plans with three elevations per floor plan. And then there are two larger lots on the site. So those have a special floor plan. That's one floor plan and one elevation for that style. Just for context, I will share my screen. Beautiful. Here's the Heartland at Hidden Hills site outlined in red. For context, the McBean Park Drive is kind of where my cursor is. That runs from east to west. This intersection right here is Oak Tree Lane. Heading south, you will find the subdivision. It's within the existing Hidden Hills subdivision, which is currently building at the moment. This is just a little pocket within. Like I mentioned, there's three different floor plans for majority of the subdivision, those 12 blocks. Three different floor plans here ranging in size from 2,200 square feet to roughly 3,250 square feet. Those bigger floor plans for those bigger lots which I'll show here are the biggest houses of them all. Here's a general layout of the subdivision. Let's see. There we go. Perfect. So you see the two big lots, 13 and 14, have their own standalone plans. And the rest are kind of interspersed of those three other plans. So the design review board members, you all receive a packet of materials with the designs, colors, elevations, things of that nature. Did you guys have any questions or comments, clarifications on that, requests?

Can you expand on the area for 13 and 14 as to why that's different and what their lots sizes are? They're small lots and I wanted to know why that's different.

Sure. So this site is really interesting. It's 14 lots. It was roughly a 10-acre site. The owner didn't want to sell off to the larger developers, so they retained that and processed their own map. What runs through the middle of that land is essentially a quarry. The terrain is really steep and varied, so the developer was trying to kind of make the best use of the land that they could with kind of the features that were on site. So the court kind of traverses that terrain and those two lots are essentially, the plan from what I know is that the owner and their son are going to retain those two lots and live there. So they are having a bigger lot for themselves. And really with our standards of how that cul-de-sac is, there's really not much more you can get out of that space except those two lots. Thank you. Yeah, of course. So yeah, it's a semi-custom for them. I have any questions on the, you know, any of the architectural features, colors?

I like the use of garage doors. I know that we're using better garage doors. That's great. The only kind of one comment was just A24 and A27. Is that right or left? They just look super similar. I assume they're going to color the bottom so that they're not right next to each other. Sorry, I don't know.

You can always put a condition of approval to make sure that those two are not next to each other.

I just think they look really similar. A24, you said? It was A24, and I put A27, but not how each other will find each other.

So here's A24, the Santa Barbara version of the first plan.

when you say that they look similar are you talking that colors and the and the um materials yeah very white which i know is where we're going um but i assume like

And Chelsea's our designer here for this project.

Hi!

I'm wondering if you might be referring to 824 and 825, which are two different versions of the same elevation. They actually are beyond

Oh, maybe that was it.

Yeah. We just had, um, there's a patio option. And so we wanted to show them that then we're not the patio. So, okay.

Okay. No, it was eight to seven farmhouse. Oh, and eight to four. Are these the same? Those should be different. They are. They are different. Um, they just look really similar here. And I was trying to pull up the color, like the actual paint. and maybe it won't be like that with the I don't know what this is called but with the decorative brace on the 827 they just seemed really like if they were right next to each other I feel like you'd think they were the same and I just for some variety in the community they are definitely more different in person okay um but certainly if that's we do have a

pretty large amount of differentiation between elevations and color schemes. Okay. Perfect. Differently. That's our goal as well. Perfect.

I know. I feel like it's just, it seems like we're starting to see that, right? Where it's like white and black everywhere. So I love, and I love the colors of the doors. I think it's a great job there. And I also thought the lighting was great. The exterior lighting looked really good.

I love the garage doors though.

I'm so proud of those.

I like the garage doors as well. I made a note on that.

It looks like the only two planned ones that are plotted next to each other are six and seven. Okay. So we could add a condition if you wanted, you know, one of those to potentially be a certain elevation or like, you know, to be varying color schemes of one a lighter scheme and potentially one a darker scheme, something of that nature.

I mean, I think they're going to do it. I don't know. I don't think you guys do. I just wanted to point it out. So, I mean, I'm sure they probably want to do that, too.

I had a question. Sure. It has to do with the tandem garages. And you have a two-car garage in tandem with drawings of potential three cars. And then you have a three-car garage. And you have... almost a similar space, although the two-car is 20 feet by 40 feet, where the three-car, although it looks as though it's in tandem with the third car up ahead, it's only 21 by 20. And for some reason, that was just a question I should be asking. Am I making sense?

Do you know what plate you're referring to, Michelle? Plan 4 is the only one that has a three-car to the front. All of the rest of them are three-car tandems. Yeah. And Plan 4's garage is 31 by 26. The two-car portion is 21 feet wide, but then there's a single-car portion, and it's pushed back.

Okay, maybe that's where I was confused. It just wasn't.

If you go to page 85.1. Assuming it's this one. 31 by 26, 26 feet is this way.

Maybe that blocked it, and I was looking at it compared to this. It just looked, it would be narrower because of two carparas, but I was looking at the footage, and it just didn't look, but that's not it. No, that's not it because the third one was still up in tandem above the other two, and I will find it. It's not a big deal. It was three-car with tandem. Well, here it is. It's on A4.1. And it says tandem garage, three-car tandem garage. You can't get that. And it's 21 feet by 20 feet, or 21.2 by 20.8. And then this one, the two-car garage, is 20 feet by 40. And it just...

The second dimension on the first one that you read off is a typo. That just gives you the dimension of the two-part portion. Okay, thank you.

It looks like that tandem is roughly about 18 feet. We have different pages.

Yeah, because you don't have that. And I'm a 2247 square foot.

Yeah.

And I have a 25. Yeah.

Oh, I have 281s. Hold on. There you go. Oh, there we go. Yeah. Okay. Well, at least it's nice to know the type of graphical error because I'm looking, where is this 40 feet versus the other. You absolutely got it. Okay. All right. Okay. Well, it shows how to look at these things. Yeah.

I love it. No problem.

The other question is, Just to make sure, and I know that it is, on A2.4, the siding, the brickwork, rockwork, it is wrapped. It goes around the corner. I knew that, but it made me more comfortable just verifying it. Oh, and then... Let's not be on this one. I'll wait. There's another question, but I think it's on the other one having to do with the lighting, the outside lighting, the carriage lights, whatever you want to call them. Some plans only had one light on one side, and I really thought that we should have a light on each side, especially because the light that was missing was the one that was going into the entry. And without a light there, without an extra light, then I thought that's, but I'm not sure that it's just a project. It must be the other project.

When we only, when we move to one light adjacent to the garage, it's typically because there's another one that is either a gooseneck or decorative light, so you're still getting the coverage.

It's just a different application. I just didn't see it on the one that I was particularly looking at. Because it's here You see it on A2.3. You see both carriage lights, which is great. So anyway, OK. I don't think I have any more. Anything for you, Sean?

The drawings are amazing. Thank you. The sounds are great.

Well done. Fantastic. We're excited about it. Yeah. The renderings are all really good.

Thank you. Is the Design Review Board comfortable with recommending to the Planning Commission?

Yes. Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

We will now move to Item E. The Planning Commission to approve the Auburn Ravine Sinks Production Homes, Epic 1 and 2. We'll be back.

We'll see you in one moment to bring up the next items. Here we have the Epic 1 and 2 Auburn Ravine Estates designer view. This is a project that has 80 residential lots with three floor plans and three elevations per plan. The plans range in size from 1,800 square feet to roughly 3,400 square feet. The home elevation tiles include Spanish Eclectic, Bonsalow, and Ranch.

Let's start off with some context. We're still in the Village 1 area on this project. Here's my screen.

All right, now the last project was on the south side of McNean, now we're north. So project site, just for reference, this is East Avenue right here, and you'll just take one of the side streets in order to get to the project site adjacent and north of Auburn Ravine. Like I mentioned, there's 80 lots. Here's the approved kind of map for the project. So the project site is accessed off of East 9th Street and East 8th Street. As previously mentioned in the last project, Design Review Board members received all of the floor plans, elevation styles, and colors for your review. They're also provided online. So if you have any comments, questions, we do have members of the Upland Arts team here to answer any of your questions. So I'll kick it over to you, Paul.

Let's start.

I had some questions regarding this one drawing on sheet 820. There's a couple of elevations that have a window above the entrance omitted. Looks like a lot of these other drawings. Thank you. There is a window. So it seems like Is that intentional? Is there a plan to change it? We did update that to ask the window.

I apologize it didn't print on here, but it wanted that.

Okay. Then the other one is just a personal opinion on the express space. For a while, a lot of these buildings were filled with 8-foot roll-up doors. Then all of a sudden, there was a retransmit, and we started doing a lot of 7-foot doors. Are you doing 7-foot doors on the garage? Because they look like they're a little squat.

Mm-hmm.

And Sean, is this the plan that you're talking about?

Yeah. The last project we looked at, they were all eight-footers. They were great. Now I'm seeing seven-footers here. I'm just expressing an opinion. If there's eight-foot head heights throughout the project, and all of a sudden you throw in a seven-foot door, it always looks odd to me. Yeah, they're eight over nine.

They're eight over nine usually. Yeah.

That's just a personal opinion.

When I was talking about the second light, it was on this project, and it is what I'm saying. And primarily because the way this rendering is on the Spanish eclectic, it's definitely in shadow. And so from my personal opinion, we need to have a second exterior light on the other side of the garage before you go into the entryway.

So what plan are you looking at?

I'm looking at plan one, 1832 square foot. It looks like they're all like that.

Yeah, we should just put the light over the address. Yeah, I just...

As a personal opinion, and from a safety opinion, I just would like to see a light on the other side. But that's just me. Because as I say, the red herrings all show it in shadow.

You see it?

Oh, yeah. I see it on all of them. Yeah.

And like the other one, your entryway was right there, so you would have a light. Yeah, but they're recessed and part of it.

That's correct.

I don't know if anyone else thought that, but on the two stories, it just looked like we had so much tempo, like big gaps and things. I don't know if anybody else.

I agree with you on the light fixture, but again, it's just a personal opinion.

Yeah.

I think this builder's going for really inexpensive. Trying to keep the price points down. So I'm like, I take my hat off because you guys are trying to build products affordable. And I get it. I noticed there was composition roofing on both projects as well, both previous and this one. And I think composition is great. That's a good word. It's a good roof. It's not as expensive as a concrete tile roof. and cost is a huge deal. But they're still good looking, decent looking houses.

It's like when you're looking on page A11, the porch has these two columns and they're just kind of there. Yeah, they're just like two by four. They're just there. And so to me, looking at it, it just doesn't blend in Looks a little choppy.

Thank you. Okay. We take these plans from a core product line that does well for buyers in our market and try and compare it with what's sold in the area at projects that we've already done. So that's why this lineup was picked out. Everyone has a variance of opinion on how things look, and I'm always open to suggestion, but that's just where these specific ones sit. I understand where you're coming from.

And so there's no downstairs windows either on the sides of the houses from the two stories? Yeah, that was actually my next answer. No, there wouldn't be a zero.

A 50 by 105 or 55? Yeah, 50 would be a little bit more. Yeah, there's no. At minimum, it'll be a 50 foot wide lot, so it would be a

presumably at least five foot setback on either side.

And the plan four is only going to be observed on the home sites on the ground that you see in yellow so that we can observe that setback.

Sorry.

Sorry.

Are we, is this going to be pre-plotted?

Yes. And we have the fit list you did in here as well. Perfect. And I'm sure that nothing's next to each other across the street that it's spread out.

And you said there are windows on the sides of the house?

The sides of the house, yes.

Okay, so like A13, is there, I only see one upstairs, is that right? No, there's two.

Yes, there's one upstairs. Yeah, that's it. There's nothing upstairs.

So no, no light. No windows.

So, you know, I have a study in each plan on each lot. My only concern would be those blank elevations on the ends of the block.

Yeah.

Which we've seen for, you know, you're driving down. It looks great until you see the end of the buildings. And then you're like, whoa. You know, you can throw down for a few more windows or give them, you know, windows on the end elevation of the last house.

Yeah, that was the problem. So we put the shutters and then we did the enhancement of the color on the enhanced elevation.

Yeah. I just wouldn't, you know, it's not, the thing is when it's just trim, You know, throw down for some windows at the end. It's just, throw down for some windows at the end of the, you know, give us an optional, you know, one elevation's different, but, you know, in any condition. So that's just my opinion. We have to, you know, these buildings are going to outlast us, so I don't think it's too much of a stretch to ask for that end elevation where they occur. I'm not prepared to go through all these houses and, you know,

of that, of the, like, 12 bridges and the Bella Breeze on the freeway. There are, you can see those. Those KB homes. No, Century. Century. Century. You can see there, some of them have no windows on that side that's facing the freeway. Yeah.

Yeah, I get it when it's a zero lot line. I do too. I get it when you got houses too close together, you don't want to look right into their neighbor's house.

Yeah.

Or the sound issues, but the last one, the last one, I would say, you know, boost the price a little bit for some of those things. That's my opinion.

Mine too. Yeah, I agree. So add windows to the first floor on the second story floor plans on corner lots.

I would just say, you know, add windows to end elevations on the end of a row of houses where they're clearly visible from the streets. Planners can handle that, right?

Yeah, I was going to say, I don't want to step on, I just feel like too much just having light. That's going to be very dark in the house.

From our perspective as planning, we have our objective standards that we're looking at. You guys are here for kind of the subjective standards. So if those are your opinions, and if you're not comfortable making a recommendation to improve the project without those things added, that is your prerogative, and that's what you're here to do. So if those are what you need to feel comfortable if these changes are made, and with that, you can recommend a little plastic thing.

Absolutely. From a personal opinion, again, on page A20, as I look at these homes, and I get it, you know, you've got this... Blank slate. All the two stories are like that. All the two stories are that way. It's a huge gap. And if there was some sort of a decorative something above the garage, below those two windows, because it just looks bigger.

Four is okay. Four was okay. Or in my opinion, it was okay. But it's because you're getting a little more definition, I think.

Yeah.

So it's two. So I'd like decorative enhancement to break up the separation between those two. Yes. It just looks like it was the most bare.

And that's why I partly recommend the higher garage doors.

Well, that's what I was wondering. That closes the gap a little bit.

You have this gaping forehead, you know, and it, I don't know.

Yeah.

Because the door costs aren't extreme. I mean, there's settings and having less wall. So, you know, and then as a person that buys houses, my son just purchased a house in Hidden Hills. Why don't you throw down for an eight-foot door? You know, most cars are pretty good size these days. And I mean, really, save that much money? We're buying a house for $740,000, and you can't throw down for an eight-foot door. And it looks worse.

make sense to me so we've already got the garage for a comment to eight foot and then if not you know add the decorative enhancement and windows on the side and the windows on the side and the coach light to the elevation just consider the additional porch light on the color scheme do you have that picture um

The one, the Ranch A2 seemed pretty yellow.

With the white door?

With the white door.

Yeah, the white door makes it look worse. Makes the yellow roll right on.

Yeah. See what you said? Correct. The Ranch yellow. And I was looking at that one.

Did I look at that one? The file's big, so I'm scrolling through. Yeah, there's so much I could do on this little laptop. Let's see here.

I liked on Elevation B Scheme 6. I like that color combination. One that I was not well about was Elevation B Scheme 2. It's too thin for me, but again, that's just a personal opinion.

so ronnie you're this white garage door with the yellow it's pretty only when you look it up um yeah not on a paper yeah yeah it's pretty yellow i guess i'll just refer to you if you have a better color option that would fit the scheme better

It's not because it's personal, but when the door's white like that, it almost looks like it's painted. Like it's primers. It's just not painted yet. And the darker doors have a better snap to them. You know, you got a light background or a light wall color, and then also you have the white wall. It just, it does stand out to them.

Yeah, I wonder if the siding was on, like, by the door.

Sorry, where's the white going? Going to the third elevation. That's great.

It may be a light green. It'll come off darker than that in the end. But to us, it looks like it's unpainted.

Trying to look up the actual color.

Yeah, and it doesn't... I don't think it's going to look good white. It's going to get a scuff.

The red is from palm, mulberry, blue-green. This is reddish. Sage green, palm leaves, last two days. Green, green, peppercorn. From the garage door? Maybe. Oh, the garage door. Yeah, yeah, yeah. From the front door.

Sorry. No, yeah, that was not plenty. Yeah, your front door was great. What are we talking about? Yeah, from the front.

It almost looks like you went past the door to the house and the garage door. Yeah, the garage door matched the dark side. Yeah. To me, it would feel better. bring that balance, yeah.

I think we can handle it.

And Michelle, you were making a comment about another color scheme.

Oh, I was just saying on the instrument. liked it was Elevation C Scheme 5. I like the color combination and I also liked Scheme 6, the one that I didn't like at all. Oh yes, Elevation Scheme 2, only from a personal preference, it looked pink to me. The stucco The fascia trend, the garage, it all seems to reflect more of a pinkish hue. But again, that's just a personal opinion.

I'm going to make a note of that to see if there's another combination.

I don't think it's important.

I'm going to let it be. I can always get you a paint swatch if you'd like.

It really isn't anything that a lot of times these renderings are not the true colors. Yeah.

The rendering look one way, a digital swatch of another, and then the physical swatch of another, and however it's painted.

Yes. But we can address that for your comments.

Any other items for these?

So what I have written down are the garage doors, use eight foot, add the second coach light to elevations, add windows on corner lots that are visible to the public street, two stories, add a decorative enhancement in between the first and second floor, and then for that A2 ranch style to match the garage door to the siding paint. I hope you have it. So without recommendation of approval?

Yes. Adjustments.

They will be there. Thank you. Thank you. And I'll send you these notes as well.

It'll be an email. Thank God.

So, okay. Moving on to item 4C. Recommend Planning Commission to approve the 1905 Aviation Board of Arts Specific Development and Development Programming Design Review.

Let's see.

All right, so the project we have is the 1905 Aviation Boulevard project. Relatively simple overall. The business has requested to enhance one side of the building to allow for a garage door to open up. Typically, this would kind of be done at an administrative level, but there is an addition of a fence in its use permit and requires a design review board approval. So overall, pretty minor, but love to hear if you have any comments or sense. So I will share my screen for you to give you an idea where the project is. So 1905 Aviation is located in the Lincoln Air Center. just east of our airport. So here we have Nicholas Boulevard where my cursor is. And then heading north, we have this is Nelson. And then it turns into aviation. There's all medium industrial uses around in that area. So there are warehouse buildings, things of that nature. As for the existing building, here's an aerial view. There we go. So here's the building where they currently operate. This area is, if you just feature a storage yard, their plan is to, please correct me if I'm wrong, put a fence around the entire building and the storage yard?

Correct.

Okay, perfect. Existing here, this is a cell tower facility, correct? Correct. Okay. So just planning to fence off the area and to store equipment here and for, you know, the safety and, you know, the prevention for the equipment that's stored there. What's the building?

It's a standalone tilt-up construction concrete building, warehouse essentially.

Pull up the renderings. These are the renderings of what the fencing in the building will look like. Again, existing building for the most part, These files are a little large for my laptop.

This is the new garage door that would be there.

Right now, it's just a wall, correct? Not changing any windows out, just installing an additional door. This fence will be new. And then this to the south is the fencing that'll go around. This property is currently vacant, so it's actually on the east side of the property, which that's zoned for industrial as well. So if anyone wanted to build, it'd be a similar use. It's not like it's open space or something. How do you think about it? This is the driveway to the storage yard. This is off of Lincoln Airpark Drive. So they would be doing frontage improvements, curb, gutter, sidewalk and landscaping. Right now it's just there. No curb, no gutter. So it really is an improvement out of the site. And again, there's some privacy green slats. So really, for the most part, for the fencing, if you wanted to tweak that to be a different color, perhaps, I know that would, you know, that could be an idea. But for the most part, there is barbed wire up there to prevent any people from hopping over. But that's basically it.

So the gate. All right, so the fence is 10 foot high, right?

The overall fence is 10 feet? Correct.

All right, including this gate here. There's a steel gate that says 6'8".

So I think is that the black fencing next to the building, perhaps? Yeah, it just moves to the double overall.

It looks like all the fencing is 10 feet except for this one gate. I see in detail it's 6'8". You're not referencing a shape.

Yeah.

A2. I was just wondering why the gate's so short. It's got something above it.

That will swing driveway.

Okay. And you tend to have a 10 foot all the way wrapped around the whole. Yes. So it'd be. Okay. Yeah, I was thinking that you would defeat your 10 foot. Perfect.

Yeah.

So now you're out in purview. So you're adding asphalt. And then you've already met all the storm water issues. Drainage.

Yeah, that'll be with. Not under your purview here.

Okay. But there is a plan in place. Yes, absolutely. I was wondering how you're going to manage it. Just curious. Yeah, just how you're going to pull that off. Are you going to put your water below a pavement or is there sufficient storage range around that?

So there's going to be an addition of a bioswale that will be sloped toward

in this preview?

We do have landscape plans here, which again... Is that our scope?

If you have problems with... You don't have a separate landscape?

We have a parks committee, but this is not a park.

Okay.

Yep. So we do have landscape plans that were provided, so if there were any issues with any of the plant species or anything, if you want... Yeah, you screen all that.

Yep. Stay there. look and design. I was wondering when our area would start to require more perimeter fencing because there's a lot of warehouses that don't have any. We were looking for a building. We were shocked at how exposed the buildings are.

It's really tucked away back there as well.

It's the last building at the end. That makes it even more

I had no additional comments.

I can't make one concern. Make sure that the footing, the foundation, those steel posts are super strong. Because I have a 12-foot fence like that. And we got clobbered with some wind storms. And, you know, it's not the whole bridge. It's going to be like one area where you're like, oh, my God, this particular area, that particular storm is going to really beat up these fences. And we had a pretty stout fence. This is out in Calabasas County. So it was a little shock. We actually have to fix it. So other than that, it's just a heads up, man. Make sure that steel's stout. I've seen steel bend, and I've seen the whole column yield.

The only thing I would add to that is the Acer rubra, the maple trees, I have one in my yard. It's a specimen tree. It's one of the most gorgeous trees. People come and take pictures of it all the time. have leaves all over it, you know, it is a maintenance and they're beautiful trees and I love to see them. But it's just be aware that there is a maintenance issue as to where you're going to be putting putting them. My neighbors come over quite a lot of yard, but they do have gorgeous trees. And paper.

Okay, so yes i am so that is all i'll go ahead and adjourn this meeting at 2.2