Board of Supervisors - Regular Meeting

Mm. Good morning, everybody. It's Tuesday, July 7th, 2026, the first meeting of the new fiscal year. My name is Don Swanker. I'll go ahead and call the Jackson County Board of Supervisors meeting to order. To my left, I have Mike Steiners. Good morning. To my right, Nan Flegel.

Good morning.

Bjorn from IIT, Lisa from the Auditors. Good morning. And first up on the agenda is Visitors and Citizens. Is there anybody online or there's nobody in the gallery today? So anybody online would like to address the board that's not listed on the agenda?

Good morning, this is Dan with Roofing.

All right, we're going to move on to you. You're first up on the agenda, Dan, go for it.

Yes, sir. I've been asked to attend the meeting to discuss the problem child roof at the fairgrounds when it becomes full of snow and ice. A couple of circumstances where the snow is accumulated on the roof. And it has done damage to the two-way vents that are specific to the roof system. They act as intake and exhaust fans or vents for high wind scenarios. So they're critical in the technology of the Duralast system. Most of our roofs that we do are low slope. And usually these avalanches or snow snow slides don't cause much harm, if any, to the vent systems. Every once in a while, we get a roof that has a little bit more slope to it, such as yours, and the weight of the snow and ice, when it finally decides to break free, sometimes it takes whatever's in its way with it. In this case, it's usually the caps of these vents pop off. There is a snow There is a snow bar system that we installed when we did the initial installation that keeps the snow from avalanching down over man doors and onto things down below. But for whatever reason, it's not protecting the vents. So I proposed a diverter, if you will, or a vent protector that installed on the high side of the vent and just acts as a wedge. allowing the snow and ice to divert around it. And I know there was questions about, there was people had questions about why we didn't possibly propose this at the beginning. I had a conversation with one of the members and explained, you know, I'd say maybe one or 2% of all of our projects have ever really needed these diverters. And we usually don't find out until they've been put through The test with accumulating snow on the roofs, we don't have to do this very often, so it's typically not something that I recommend. It's more of a reactionary than precautionary. Every roof is different in the way that it thaws, so that's what I know.

Dan, this is Mike, one of the supervisors. So I guess, like you said, you know, I would expect the experts to recommend something if it's in question. And if I understand it right, these vents have been damaged several times and repaired to the point where, well, we need to do something. We need to put something over it so I don't wreck it again. Um, I see a lot of immoralities on the, on the roof, on top of it, wrinkles, if you will, uh, with, with the coating. Um, it's, it's, uh, I don't know, I guess is that normal? Have you been by and take a actual visual of the roof?

Yeah, I've been on the roof several times, uh, before, during and after installation. Um, it isn't a coating, it's a single ply material that comes on a roll. and we stretch it. There are wrinkles that do... Roof, particular roof is a little more visible than most of the roofs that we do. So we try very hard to stretch that material as much as we can so it aesthetically looks pleasing. It's performing. It's only downfall thus far has been the perfect storm, if you will, when we get a bunch of accumulating snow that sticks to the roof and then melts very quickly. And you're right, it has caused, it did cause damage maybe the first winter after we installed it. And then I think we were in the clear. We didn't have any of the, it didn't have that perfect scenario for at least another year or more. And then again, I believe again last winter, we suffered, you guys suffered more damage to the vents. I can't, I don't remember if I offered these diverters after the first time it happened or not. Nevertheless, the second time it happened, this conversation did come up. And again, this isn't something that I normally like to try to upsell or it's just, it's very reactionary and unfortunately, you know, with a roof slope like that and and maybe the location, I don't know, the climate. Occasionally we have to put these things on there to protect the ventilation so that we don't have to continuously come back with service calls. And I'm honestly, I think the first time it happened, I'm not even sure if we even charged to come up and replace the cabs. It was the secondary time that it actually had broken some vents off to the point where we couldn't, it wasn't just the cab, it was half of the vent. So I believe there was a cost associated with that. But I did present a proposal and it does include some replacement of the vents that would need to be taken out of the quote because that work has already been done.

Well, this is my name is Don swanker and, uh, I guess my only concern is when we did this roof, we paid extra for snow protection. And, uh, I guess we assume that this is part of it, but I, I, you know, I think it was what 30,000 roughly, if I remember, right. $31,000 we paid for snow protection. And I see this as a piece, I think the quote we got to fix this is like 2,800 bucks or I just, you kind of assume it would be included in that. I mean, you know, we tried to make sure we got everything we needed the first time. Granted, this happened before I got elected and was put on the board, but it just seems like it would be part of it when you're trying to protect vents and stuff.

Well, that's, Again, that's an assumption and you could, you know, the devil's advocate would be, we could have, I could have assumed that, you know, at the beginning that it may, they may be needed and, and, and charge more upfront for them and maybe they weren't needed. I just, honestly, I've been doing this for 25 years and I can count on one hand, you know, how many roofs act like the way yours, your guys's does. There's another one behind our, it's a twin to our building in Clinton and the same darn thing happens. Uh, they don't have snow protection because they don't, it's a two-story building and they don't, there's nothing, all the man doors and loading doors are on the gable ends of the building. So they just let the snow run off, you know, slide off and, and land in the lot. But it's just a, it's a rare occurrence. And, um, in nine times, you know, 9.9 times out of 10, we, we don't ever even have to use them, but for whatever reason with that must be just with that particular slope. Because the snow fence should hold that snow on. I mean, the purpose of the snow fence is to hold that on so that this doesn't happen. But like I said, I don't know if it's, I mean, the manufacturer, I gave them all of the, I gave them the slope of the roof, the dimensions of the roof, because it all goes into how they uh what they recommend for this fence and you know for whatever reason mother nature's you know working against us in those it doesn't it's not going to happen unless you get that again like i said that ideal eight you know six eight ten inches of snow and ice forming underneath of it and then all of a sudden it turns to 50 degrees and the sun pops out and then it just raises havoc on not only your roof but it does it to residential gutters and and metal roofs and you know anybody that doesn't have you know doesn't have adequate protection or it's kind of like in my opinion it's kind of like heat tape you know heat tape is uh not something that we sell to every customer but every once in a while we get those winters where boy you wish you you wish you had it in there because you have a huge ice dam and it backs up in a valley or something you know it's just one thing we can't control is other nature so uh dan this is mike again so you mentioned that you turned all the specs in and whatnot to

Is there any recourse for us to go back to the manufacturer and say, hey, this should have been covered. I mean, you had the specs, let's do it right. Or maybe they didn't know about the vents or somehow I feel that we're not liable for this whole deal. That's my whole point. And I also would like to know how they're attached to that roof.

They are just, we cut maybe a six inch diameter hole and on the on the bottom part of the vent there's a piece of i'll call it a an eight inch diameter piece of plastic with some um kind of some we don't really they don't fasten to the roof they're they're just slid in in this hole and then they have a base on it that's the same material as the the roof membrane and it's just heat welded so that When air goes in, all we're ventilating the air is right beneath the roof membrane so that it sucks. One vent's going to let air in, one's going to let air out. It's going to suck that membrane tight to the insulation and keep it on in a tornado, high wind, straight line wind or tornado event.

So you're cutting a hole in the existing membrane?

Yeah, we cut a hole in the roof and then we slide this vent in place. And then it has a base of material or membrane, say it's 12 inches by 12 inches, and we heat weld that. Just like we seam a roof, we heat weld it down to the base material. So it's kind of hard to explain.

I would appear to think of something like a flashing around a chimney where it's underneath on top and over top on the bottom or something like that.

Yeah, you got it. You got it. Yep.

I, I, I'm still kind of reluctant to say that responsible for all of that. I don't know.

I mean, considering, yeah, this is an employee goes other supervisor.

I mean, maybe we can meet in the middle. Maybe. I mean, I, I don't feel, I feel like I have a leg to stand on, but at the same time, Maybe we, I guess the more expensive part is the labor of this scenario. Maybe get you guys to pay for the diverters themselves and I'll pay the people to put them on. I mean, let's compromise and I guess just get something in place so that this doesn't happen again and we can, everybody will win.

I think we could probably agree to something like that. Let's do it before winter.

OK, I will. I will email. I'll email a price for the material. OK. I can do that.

Dan, you guys are welcome.

Yes.

Would you mind emailing that to me? I know that I had some correspondence there. Would you just mind emailing that proposal to me?

I'd be happy to.

All right. That would work then. Thank you.

Okay. Well, thanks for listening to my spiel and appreciate you guys working with us on it.

Hang on, Dan, here. Are you doing this momentarily so we can either take action today, it's on our agenda, or is it something that we have to do next week?

I say let's get the proposal back, and then we can take action and get going.

Yeah, I can have a proposal to you sometime tomorrow. I'm on the road today, but tomorrow I can get something on the email. I don't remember how many there are, what the cost is. All right.

Sounds good. Thank you.

You're very welcome. Enjoy your day.

All right. Bye. Just on time, we have Jennifer Jones with the recorders out here. Come on down. Good morning.

Good news. All good news, right?

It's all good news. It's all good news.

We've heard nothing about your job, so that's amazing.

No news is good news. Exactly.

It's not like my mother.

So I've got my end of month report and my fiscal end report.

So just for curiosity, so you took in almost $500,000 for the year. How much did Jackson County get to keep? $150,000. That's what everybody needs to know.

Well, I guess a little explanation is due. Is there a percentage for each different type of transaction, I suppose, or like transfer costs, fees? We get a buck for ATVs. We retain $2.

For vital records, we retain $4, whether it's a $35 marriage application or a $20 certified copy. That has just increased from $15 to $20. The increase, of course, does not go to us. It goes to the state because there was a shortfall in their state medical examiner's office. So now we're going to charge more for birth certificates and marriage certificates. Transfer tax?

How's that?

We keep very little of transfer tax. .175 maybe?

Which is a lot of transactions too, I assume?

Yeah. Every land transaction, yeah, so like sales tax for the Department of Revenue for sales tax, yeah, we keep our 1%.

So you'd be looking for a motion to approve for the month of June 2026, correct? Yes. Total fees collected being, what, $43,820.42? Yep.

Again, there's not a lot of explanation. I mean, we have it, of course, and we can see what the fees are and the total when it's said and done. I mean, anybody can go get that information, correct?

Correct.

I would make a motion to approve June 2026.

I'd second that.

We got a motion by Mike, seconded by Nan to make a motion for a motion to accept place on file and authorize chair and auditor signatures on the county recorder to report a piece collected on the month of June 20, 2026 in the amount of $43,820.42. Correct? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Then we need to do the same for the fiscal year report.

I would make that motion. I would second.

Got a motion by Ninh, second by Mike to accept place on file and authorize chair and auditor signatures on the county record reporter report of fees collected for fiscal year 2526 in the amount of $496,402.65 of which we get to keep $150,422.09. Any other discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries.

Good job. Thank you very much.

Appreciate the seamless transition.

All right.

Next up, we have Jayden Shuck with the engineer's office and his basket of planning.

Good morning. Good morning. On our agenda is a funding agreement for the CHBP grant that was received. That stands for Competitive Highway Bridges. Refresh everybody, this has been a couple years in the making, but a year and a half or so ago we applied jointly with the Iowa DOT and multiple other counties for federal fiscal year 24 CHBP grant project. Our bridge included in the ultimately that project or that grant was awarded to the DOT, which again, we were included in that for nearly $35 million. So this project, our bridge will be bundled with Dubuque County and City of Dyersville bridge projects. So of all these entities that apply jointly, they bundle the projects. 178th Avenue is awarded amount up to $528,000. So that'll be huge for that. So we will have some low, the grant for this is 80-20. So 80% of it's covered by the grant up to 528 and then 20 on us as local dollars. percent cost share in it so and by doing this we're getting a concrete slab bridge on it so beef your bridge at a less cost it's just a tremendous asset to us to have these on the platform and get them because i mean it's not basically a I'd like to hope.

Yeah, no, I mean, it's been working great for you and your department and whatever you're doing there is, I can't say enough about it.

You need action on that? Looking for board, obviously board approval, but the board chair signature and county auditor signatures.

I would make a motion to approve the funding agreement with the bridge replacement on 507th Avenue as awarded as presented.

got motion by mike second by nin to approve the funding agreement for the uh chbp project for the 578th avenue bridge replacement and authorizing chair and auditor signatures any other discussion all those in favor say aye aye aye opposed motion carries and since we're on the topic of ch

fiscal year 24 um we are in the process right now i know you three are aware but i sent out a mass email yesterday to also supporters of our up the upcoming federal fiscal year 26 chbp grant and we will have two bridges in that application one of them being the moorhead river bridge and the second one being uh a bridge on what does that have a name but it's a bridge on 407th avenue um over duck creek those two projects, we have two bridge projects in that upcoming grant application. And as it's gearing right now, the bundle will just be our two bridges in itself. So make it really easy as far as that goes, as far as project development plans and all that. But that application is due the end of July. So I don't know when it's submitted. I don't know how soon after Federal Highway will, send out notices of who was awarded, who's not. But I guess here's another crack at us giving Moorhead, basically a long story short, we're giving Moorhead Bridge another crack at a grand to try to get that thing replaced. Because that bridge is obviously needed with repairs and closure. It's been, it's received here lately. Trying to do everything we can. We're fortunate enough to have another bridge that met all the requirements. So I guess we have two bridges in that. On that note, you sent out an email asking about letters of support. So I just included you all that, but I sent it to multiple different entities for them to return back letter of support. Like, for example, I sent it to Conservation, and they have returned theirs already for us. Because those letters of support, similar with, like, the bill grant for Iron Bridge and whatnot, they get included with the application for federal hiring to review. So I know you all have – I sent it to many different entities. So you won't go much? There will be one on a following board meeting, like a 2080 agreement type, same as this one was, but that will be upcoming

this is not people in the area that would have some support.

If you want to, you feel free to. I mean, I reached out to, say, Farm Bureau already, or RPA or ECIA. Jackson County.

I assume Farm Bureau, because there's a lot of large livestock dealers out that way, and this is people that really use that bridge, and hopefully the incidents that happened over the last couple of years

very safe yeah so yes I guess feel free it can't hurt to if you think of many other entities that would be willing to send a letter of support you know pass it on um because I know like as it relates to the Moorhead Bridge I also sent it to like Kokoda Caves or Makoka that DNR to try to get maybe DNR support because I know that bridge kind of is a cut through from 64 to the cage road So trying to reach as many entities as possible with that bridge. We have also been informed by the County Engineers Association. They have been informed by a state senator of a potential grant award. I don't want to say names. I don't want to publicly announce it yet, but we're very hopeful that very soon we should announce it. Construction projects, very busy yet. We have three bridges going on on 450th Avenue. Over by Preston, that one, the rails poured. The grading contractor is going to be in next week to do all the grading, riprap placement, granular road rebuilding backup. So that one should be wrapped up here in a couple of weeks. And back open, the Z15 bridge or Springbrook Highway bridge, that one the contractor is actually out there right now paving the northbound lanes from beginning to end of the project and bridge approaches. Tomorrow they'll pave the southbound lanes and with the hope of at least opening within the next couple of weeks i don't want to give a defined date yet because it's weather dependent on and still other subs have got to come in but very in the very near future that one should be open uh so is there a grading and and rip rap all in that one you completed already also once they just got to bring it up to the new slab that's poured. And then guardrails got to, the guardrail contractor's got to come in on pavement markings, the seating contractors. So a few, and obviously some of that's weather dependent, but hope is very soon, but yes, there are, it is dependent on other subcontractors yet. The Chenilworth Bridge, Coker River has risen up again, but luckily it's not altering progress yet. They have all of the substructure done on the entire bridge. The abutments and the piers are all built. So now it's waiting for the waters in the Colgate River to recede enough to where they can bring cranes up closer to the river to start setting beams on top to over the center span of the river. But right now the water's kind of high yet for them to do that. And then the paving project on the Bernard Road, that's going well. We've been, the contractor and ourselves have been working with property owners along there as far as access. Everything's been going really well as far as I'm aware, as far as access. Construction-wise, everything's going well too. Assuming no plant breakdowns or weather looks like it's going to be good, that the paving itself should be wrapped up probably by up this week.

Went out and visited them last weekend at 100 degree temperature and they were at it. Dump truck after dump truck full of chagrin and they were rolling that thing along and I heard the day before it didn't go quite so well for them.

Yeah, so last, I think last Tuesday is when they started it, which, you

but after that it was has been smooth sailing since and you know they've been starting at 5 30 in the morning and go until seven o'clock at night talking to some of your guys or your crew out there you know the inspectors of course and taking the it was interesting to watch to take the uh air oh the entrainment yeah entrainment uh sample if you will and and to that and to see but you know that kind of weather and uh you know he was talking a thousand feet a day i mean that's That's pretty, or 1,400, I can't remember what he told me.

I mean, they were hopeful to try to, with no plant breakdowns, three quarters of a mile a day. They haven't been able to achieve that.

Yeah, that's pretty tough, but that's a lot of dump trucks full of concrete, I'm just saying, man.

Well, they've been using the Hurstville Cut-A-Cross. Oh, yeah. It's the constant flow back and forth. And I even saw it. I mean, one time I saw a dump truck passing dump trucks. I mean.

I didn't know what my side by side. I said, I'll get the heck out of here before I get run over.

So it's a good thing the Caves Road is, you know, obviously on our five-year program because that's being used as a hauler out to get to the Bernard Road. And the road was already in need of it prior to this. And just a lot of extra traffic on that road. But. Well, it's going really well. And yeah, I encourage you all to take a look at it sometime or you wait till the project's done, whatever, but it's quite a great improvement again too. So yeah, the guys are very busy. Luckily by the end of this month, it'll, well, he's probably, well, the two bridge projects done paving project will be slowing down quite a bit. So at the end of this month, it'll give our guys some breathing room to get caught up on the paperwork side of things to keep in line with the DOT when they come to audit our projects. But yeah, Yeah, very busy right now. And then on the, I take up too much time, but on the secondary road side of the maintenance guys side of things, they're back to reclaiming now that weather's been allowable for us to do that. We're not getting dumped with rain every other day. They've also continued brush cutting ahead of roads that we're going to reclaim yet. So they're in full force working on our crowning of

to where you guys are trying to reclaim. Did I not send those yet? Okay, I'm going to do that as soon as I get done here.

If you can print them out for me because I got them in a book. I appreciate that. Would you like them emailed or printed off, I guess? Printed. Okay, I'll go get that done ASAP.

Cool. Yeah, I had some really good comments again about the brush clearing that's being done. They really appreciate that. I know it's work in progress. of it we got behind on and we're working at it and uh lucky we have the equipment that we have now and hopefully it holds up for us and keeps on on another note i just noticed it was like 86 yesterday that was our high temperature or something but it said the high for the record was 105 in 1936 so it did get hot back then too 105 in 1936 i thought hmm

Back to reclaiming, we're in our fourth year doing that. How much is left? A full year or a half a year?

It could be a full year for sure, but it should be hopefully just limited to that, just another full year. Depending on what they all get done there. there's like to allow, but if we can get everything we had planned this year, it should be limited to just one more year.

So an original plan, you know, it was a five-year or six-year process, whatever it was going to be and whatever happened. But again, then you continue to start over. Now, these roads that were done are in really nice shape. So it ain't like it's going to be a major undertaking again.

No, it shouldn't be as aggressive. The roads that have been done, you know, cause over time, I mean, in the winters, you know, they will flatten the crown cause that's where they typically be picked to get rock exposed and whatnot. So we do expect to lose some crown, but then in spring they come bring it back up and you know, overall they're maintaining that crown. And if there are some areas that we tend to see get flat, we work with the guys to get that corrected. But yes, the second time around should be, should be quicker and less

less aggressive i'm gonna say them them guys right now have got it down to a science there's no doubt no question that we had our issues early on and we we did we yeah they're in the learning curve we had some issues and we corrected ourselves or they did i should say and uh and tried different things and they they've got it down to a science almost yeah

I'll be honest, I haven't really been keeping up with it as well. I know our superintendent's been keeping up today with it, but I haven't. You just keep applying for grants. The guys deserve a lot of effort, too, because they're the ones that are doing the magic, I guess, or making the effort happen.

with the roadways and the visibility and all that kind of stuff. We'd love to continue it. Again, I still have a voice of concern about overloading our weed commissioner with everything we've been clearing. So at some point, you know, we should keep them in communication because she's just a personal one. I know we were talking, hopefully maybe they can get a summer help that can go with her or whatever. We can just make sure we're working with her as best we can, because again, She's a one-person shop. She can only do so much. So the things we can do, and I know you guys have talked in the past, it just seems like we're firing on all cylinders as far as brush clearing and all that kind of stuff. And, you know, at some point when we get with the road, you know, with the reclaiming, hopefully we start looking into the ditches to make sure they're flowing correctly. And, you know, whether you're brush clearing or reclaiming, you know, to make sure, you know, things are there or functioning because that's what we're, that's what we want to see. That's what we're paid to do is make sure the roads are good. And now if we could just get them about 50 feet wide, like everybody wants to get their farm equipment down the road, we'll be happy.

Well, if the trade-off, you know, again, if we get caught up in the end, get to it, then maybe it gives us an opportunity to, again, coordinate with the spraying of that or custom, you know, whatever is the best option, just like we did with the rock hauling. I mean, obviously, it was much quicker and economical and feasible for us.

I noticed there's quite a bit of rock in the claims today.

Yeah.

Our claims in hold are excellent. because it's the new fiscal year and with that there's equipment that was budgeted for this fiscal year that we received early but now it's coming due at the fiscal year uh all of our contract rock yes that was planned and budgeted for this fiscal year was completed last fiscal year but the billing is now coming due so yes that's a progress unfortunately cost

And last on the agenda is Lisa.

Good morning. I need a motion to approve the June 30th, 2026 meeting minutes as written by Auditor Smith and authorized publication in the official newspaper. And make that motion.

I would second. Got a motion by Ned and second by Mike to approve the minutes of the June 30th, 2026 meeting as written by Auditor Smith and authorized publication in the official newspapers. Any other discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries.

Motion to approve and authorize the auditor's office to issue warrants in the publication of the claims listing in the amount of $879,704.30. Motion to approve.

I would second that.

Good. A motion by Mike, second by Ninh to approve and authorize the auditor's office to issue warrants on the publication of the claims listing in the amount of $879,704.30, of which there's about a $430,000 road grader and there's over $300,000 worth of rock in there. So those are the two big expenses and

the forward progress going so any other discussion all those in favor say aye aye opposed motion carries i need a motion to approve an authorized chair and auditor signatures on the agreement to provide professional consulting services between jackson county and cost advisory service inc for fiscal years 26 27 and 28 for an annual cost of four thousand four hundred and fifty dollars this is the company that we have used for many many recoup some of this money. They're great people to work with and that's a pretty minimal cost that we have.

I would make them all central approved and have their appropriate signatures.

Second. Got a motion by Ninh, seconded by Mike, to approve, authorize the chair and auditor signatures on the agreement to provide professional consulting services to Jackson County and advisory services, Inc., for fiscal years 26, 27, and 28 for an annual cost of $4,450. Any other discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries.

And I also have another fireworks permit. I need a motion to approve a fireworks permit to Great River Thresher at 99 Centennial Street miles on July 17th, 2026 at dusk with a rain date of July 18th, 2026 at dusk.

So moved.

I would second that.

Got a motion by Mike, second by Ninh, to approve a fireworks permit for the Great River Threshers at 99 Centennial Street, eight miles on for July 17th, 2026 at dusk. Any other discussion? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries.

That's all that I have for the board.

All right, boards and commissions, do we have anything?

9-1-1 meeting last week, we had extensive discussion on several, talked about radios, of course, like we always do. How pricey they are and what they do and what's the best one. And there's some new options out there for us and they're doing some studies on have, but Bellevue, of course, has some dead spots. Sevilla has some dead spots. Lamont has some northeast of them, apparently, and I think McCougar might be having a few issues here and there off and on, but we're getting more information from suppliers and contractors, if you will, and see if we can get a little better coverage. You know, it's a

I know when I sat in a meeting a few months back and the Motorola guy was going to come back with kind of a proposal of what he thought would be the best recommendation to fix these problems. Did he?

We did. And they come back and they were doing some testing on a couple of different existing towers that were trying to get permission to. put an antenna or a repeater on, whatever they need to use. But again, we want to do some more testing to maybe get higher on them towers. We had a basket truck from the city of Bellevue on top of the hill, and it only reaches so far. But again, a little more testing, and to get the nuts and bolts all figured out is demanding, and it's hard to get... Our church is beautiful, but it causes issues. It's hard to get answers back sometimes. They're busy, too, and they don't return... as quickly as we'd like but uh again we're not the only fish in the river so great that they're dealing with so it's uh it's just it's just a pricey system but it's you gotta have it so okay i mean you got the minutes and stuff so it's kind of in there self-explanatory gets kind of complicated once in a while but good i have nothing i thought i had a workforce yet meeting yesterday

different invitations and stuff set out with the transition. So there's even a question whether it was really a meeting last night. Some people did, some people didn't. So we're working out some things. All right. If that's all we got.

Make a motion to adjourn.

I would second.

We've got a motion by Ninh, second by Mike to adjourn. Any other discussion? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? Have a great day, everybody.