City Council - Regular Meeting

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Councilman Gro here. Councilman Kennedy here. Mayor Prom Twining here. Mayor McKan here. Councilman Burns here. Councilwoman Vandermark here. Councilman Williams here. Seven present. Madam clerk, do we have any supplemental communications? We have no supplemental communications for close session. All right. Public comments portion of close session. Madam clerk, do we have anyone sign up to speak on closed session items? We have two speakers.

Okay. Please call them up. The city council will now receive public comments for close session only. When your name is called, please approach. Use both podium. State your name and organization for the record. Karen Carroll and Tim Gettis goes Mayor Bian and members of the city council. I am Karen Carroll, very longtime resident. It's been a long time since I spoke at the council meeting. Um, I'm here to talk about the litigation, the state, and the city. Um, it's time. I believe that almost all of you has at some point questioned whether the longstanding no high density mantra still makes sense in the light of today's ha housing crisis and the situation our city now faces. Um, it has been a convenient slogan for handle for name calling among other things and it has been repeated for more than a decade without serious reassessment of its realworld consequences. And um, increasingly residents are beginning to publicly question whether it whether its purpose uh is in Huntington Beach's best interests. Housing policy is not an abstract legal exercise. It has tangible impacts on daily life in our community. When workers cannot afford to live near their jobs, they are forced into long commutes that worsen traffic congestion, increase air pollution, and degrade environmental quality. [clears throat] These outcomes directly contradict the value city leaders claim to be protecting in their rationale for continued compliance. Um, rather than continuing down a path that leads only to insolveny and diminished public trust, we ask our city

council to be honest with residents. What exactly do we gain from continued resistance? And is it worthy um of the ongoing erosion of the city's finances and credibility? Delaying compliance does not make the law disappear. It only makes the consequences worse. I'm just asking you to think about it as self uh as thinking individuals. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, please. Yeah, ma'am. If you'd like to grab ma'am Karen,

if you'd like to fill out a blue card, I'd be happy to sit down with you and and and give you the counter uh not argument, counter perspective on the value of the fight. Thank you. [snorts] Um, good good evening, mayor and city council. Tim Gettis in the house. While I am most concerned with item six on the on this agenda, I am additionally interested in all litigation with the state of California and court cases we are we are waging at great expense to the taxpayers of Huntington Beach. residents uh residents here have had no say in the all the legal wrangling and ideological tilting at windmills with Sacramento. There has been no transparency and little reporting of what resources have we have expended to date and what consequences may befall us if we lose out uh in our uh defi [clears throat] defiance to state mandates. We need reporting from clo our closed session disclosing what we are facing in our uh existing litigation especially with the threats of restrict fines restrictions loss of local control in decision-m and other punishments which we which could be levied against us. We owe it to our citizenry to be frank. That is to be open and honest with what is going on. The residents of Huntington Beach deserve to know this. Please give us a uh close session uh a close session update with uh by the city attorney at our regular meeting which addresses this concern. Thank you.

Good evening. Happy new year. Hope we're all feeling better. Uh have a healthy new year. Uh I have two items in the close session. uh similar to what Tim said. Um but um item number five, voting districts. Forming voting districts for city council elections is a fair way to ensure no single area of the city is over represented. Cities that have gone to court to oppose district elections have consistently lost. I urge the city to stop spending public money on this lawsuit and move forward with district elections. Item six, the housing element. This lawsuit has failed at every stage and continues to delay a housing element certification. However, you could certify the housing element and move on. Please p pursue compliance with state housing law so the city can certify its housing element. Doing so will restore eligibility for grants and funding for housing and safety services including SB2 funding money the city is currently covering through the general fund worsening the deficit. The draft housing element already identifies appropriate sites primarily along Gothur and the Beach Edinger corridor using zoning overlays to allow needed housing. And this gives uh property owners um more options as to what to do with their properties. Thank you.

Hi, Dora. Uh good afternoon to everyone. Happy New Year. My name is Dinora and I'm tired of dishonesty in government. Dora, so this Dora, real quick, you have to talk about what's on the close session agenda. So, can you tell me which

I was told by my attorney, the standing by to talk to, uh, all you guys uh, the, uh, Huntington Beach Housing Authority Commissioners, uh, Casey McCann, Gracie Vander, Pat Burton, and Tony Strike. That is the board of local housing that I put an application for coastland. Kathy your secretary told me someone will call me for coastland last year. Nobody have call me and if you think you going to pass me for the two bedroom that I put an application when I went to Benny in Fountain Valley and told me that yes he will build a property in Huntington Beach. I put an application. Lieutenant Smith knows about it. And if you guys pass me this Cuban American brought by Federal 1969, I will be breaking news. I've been holding my attorney for power for sheriff. Please wait because I love the city. You guys have government. So make it happen before Valentine. That's the deadline for somebody for coastland to call me for the two baron. I should not be in my cart if I never drink. done drug need but I did work 40 years and pay taxes and federal told me subsidy or firsttime home buyer which I am coand property on Garfield and Maine make sure you guys make it happen because otherwise the senator Tony Cycl will be in hard water I'm the one putting everybody at ease especially my American attorney that knows the corruption in housing and when you have Hispanic from Mexico that don't care for Cuba and the United States. It's a problem. Where are we going? And federal brought us here. Where are we going? This is not a discrimination. They tell me right in my face, go back to Cuba because we running housing. We housing who we want in house whether they legal and not legal. And I should not be in my car because my

family moved to Georgia last November. But prior being the private housing and it will not work anymore. I love that city. Hunters of Beach. You guys know that the powerful sheriff above local police in Huntsville Beach and putting them at east and they told me take it higher. My attorney knows and if you guys are government make it happen for me theoria my application one of the first one for coastland on Gardfield and Ma have a nice new year make it happen cuz I'm I don't want to be in my car running too short taking a bath going to the storage with all my furniture there. I know you guys could make it happen. Thank you. Before Valentine, have a nice So now we're going to recess to close session. Included in close session, conference with labor negotiators, government code section 54957.6. Agency designator representatives Travis Hopkins, city manager. Also in attendance, Marissa Su, assistant city manager, Mike Vig Vigliata, city attorney, and Zach Z, acting chief financial officer, employee organization, Huntington Beach Police Officers Association, and uh employee organization, Police Management Association, PMA Council, Do I have a motion, and a second to recess the close session? [snorts]

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Councilman Gro here. Councilman Kennedy here. Mayor Prom Twiny here. Mayor McKeon here. Councilman Burns here. Councilwoman Vandermark here. Councilman Williams here. All present. Tonight's invocation will be given by Huntington Beach Police Chaplain Bob Euing.

We do so with a pause to reflect with gratitude and intention. Almighty God, we give thanks for this community of Huntington Beach, its neighborhoods, its shoreline, the people who call it home. We are so grateful for the members of this city council for their willingness to serve, to lead, and to shoulder the responsibility of decision-making on behalf of the public. We also express sincere appreciation to our city staff whose dedication, professionalism, and often unseen efforts keep this city functioning day after day. As we enter a new year, we ask for wisdom, for clarity, and humility for all who serve. May decisions be guided by fairness, respect, and a genuine desire for the common good. We ask for protection over our first responders, our police officers, firefighters, and all emergency personnel. Keep them safe as they place themselves in harm's way to protect others and watch over their families who share in that sacrifice. May this chamber be a place of civility and mutual respect. As council members deliberate and as members of the public speak, may words be measured, harsh be patient, and differences be expressed without hostility. Let listening be as valued as speaking, and may dialogue be rooted in dignity. As this new year unfolds, may Huntington Beach continue to be strengthened by service, community, and a shared commitment to one another. In your most holy name, Lord Jesus, I pray. Amen.

All right. Tonight, the pledge of allegiance will be led by Dennis Bower from American Legion Post 133. And before Dennis leads us in the pledge, I'd just like to share a little bit about his story. So, Dennis Bower started life in South LA and grew up in Pico Rivera. He was drafted after completing the first quarter of his junior year at UCLA and spent two years in the army. Dennis did his basic training in Fort Or, California, and was sent to Fort or Sam Houston, Texas for medical training. There he did his medic basic and advanced preventative medicine training and became a pre preventative medicine specialist. After his training, the army sent him to Madigan General Hospital in Fort Lewis, Washington, where he spent one cold winter skiing every weekend. Having less than a year left in the army, he received orders sending him to Korea. At that point, he and his fiance decided to get married before he went to Korea. And Dennis received an early out in December 1989 to return to his education at UCLA. He has been at HP residence since 1981. Thank you, Dennis, for your service.

Thank you. [applause] Please join me in the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. City attorney, do you have anything to report from close session? Nothing tonight, Mayor. Thank you. City council members, would anyone like to make a comment? Mayor Prom Twiny.

Yeah, I just want to make a just a a real brief comment and say thank you to all the people out up here and all the people out there watching on TV. Uh, as you know, I had to leave the last um city council meeting because I was ill. Uh, I spent uh 13 days in the hospital shortly after I left the meeting. Um, I thank our wonderful Hunting Beach Fire Department for not only getting me home, but also getting me to the emergency room later on, well, the next day at night. Um, I got I just want to thank everybody that sent uh good good wishes. They did it uh through emails and texts and PMs and everything. And that was very kind. And many are people that sit over typically on this side of the room that don't typically agree with uh my politics. But uh when I went down and I was very ill, uh they were there with uh good wishes as were a lot of my friends on this side too. So I just want to thank all of you and I'm happy to be back and I feel great about 95%. Thank you, [applause]

Council Member Burns. Yeah, just want to We had a great ribbon cutting at Patriot Point. It was a beautiful day [applause] and uh a great showing and I appreciate everybody's attendance and support. It was awesome.

And I just want to wish everyone a happy, healthy, and prosperous new year 2026. And as I mentioned before, this is gonna be a really fun year with America's 250th birthday. And also want to reiterate, you know, as I mentioned at the last meeting, that my changes to the format of the agenda. I really emphasize that the the community and the residents do come first. And so I wanted to provide more opportunities for the community to speak, but also structure them in a more constructive and concise manner to keep the meeting productive and efficient. And then lastly, uh thank you again for allowing me to be your mayor. And my mission statement for the this year is to continue advancing our core government function strategic plan goals. Uh we established in 2023 with many of the achievements that everyone's going to see tonight and then really lean into making our local economy strong. uh keeping our spending dollars here in Huntington Beach, highlighting our existing businesses, attracting new business investment, and of course, have fun with the 250th birthday of America. So, I'm really looking forward to this year. Thank you everybody. [applause] All right. So, next, uh, brought it back last meeting, but we have the adoptable pet of the month, and we have, uh, two dogs from OC Animal Upcare for adoption, and both were found in HB and looking for their forever home. So, I'm going to come up and, uh, welcome Baxter and Apricot.

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Mayor, thank you. I'm Jonathan Volski with Orange County Animal Care. And I just want to start by thanking you and the residents of of Huntington Beach for having us here. Last uh month, we brought Nala, who was a 10-year-old pit bull, and Nala was fostered out less than a week after our appearance here. So, Huntington Beach is one for one. [applause]

I have with me here tonight, I have Apricot. She's a 2-year-old boxer mix. A little shy, but she's very happy to be here. Uh she is over the 25 pounds, so you can adopt and foster Apricot for free through the next month. And then with me tonight is our communications manager, Denise Woodside, and she has a dog she'll speak about.

Thank you. Good evening. Joining us tonight is Baxter. Baxter is estimated to be about eight years of age. He is a Catahula mix and um he's a really mellow guy. I think he would really enjoy some beach time, maybe some couch time as I was speaking to um some of the others here tonight. But um again, these are dogs that had originated from Huntington Beach. It would be great if we can get them placed or fostered. So, thank you so much for having us. And then real quick, if people are have interest, where should they go? Uh

ocpetinfo.com. You can see these two dogs and we've got about 130 other dogs. Uh if people want to take a look and come down and visit them at our shelter in Tustin. Thank you all so much. Thank you. Appreciate it. Yeah. Thank you, sir. Yeah. Thank you. Bye. [applause]

You got photos, huh? Oh, yeah. Want to do you [snorts] all right now to the awards and presentations uh portion. Uh so we want to present uh commendation to Robin Wood uh recognizing her retirement from Robin's Nest. [applause] So, Robin, if you Robin, if you want to come on up eventually, Kirby,

come on up. Robin. So, hopefully everyone knows Robin. She's an amazing lady. Um, you know, Gracie and I first met her. I think it was it 2021 when we were still campaigning at that Kuanas event in Metal Arc and we were we're talking about uh trying to do what Kosam was doing with that trellis program to kind of unite all the nonprofits and the you know the uh the I guess charity events through the city and Robin came up to us in the parking lot and I was just really struck by just her passion to help the youth in our in our city and to you know prevent homelessness or if they are homeless to get them off the street and she just she's a tireless worker. Uh she she gives back so much. She's done so so many, you know, great so much great work for the youth in our city and we're just so appreciative of everything she's done. And when, you know, I found out she retired, we all did. I I called her the other day. I'm like, can you please come up cuz we want to honor you and give you, you know, your your due kudos. So, we appreciate you. And did you want to say a couple words?

Sure. [laughter] Uh I just want to say thank you. um honored and humbled to have been able to help the youth in our community and the surrounding areas. Uh to me, the greatest way to make good change is through our young people, and they all deserve a chance, no matter what their background is, where they come from. Um and just help them get on the path to where they need to be, and let them be the young people and the older people that they were created for. So, I appreciate the opportunity, and it's been my pleasure to do all this in Huntington Beach. Awesome. Thank you. [applause] You want to invite your husband down to take a photo? You guys want to take a photo?

So, on behalf of the city of Huntington Beach, we want to present you with this commendation just for all your hard work, 10 years of service, and we wish you nothing but success and fun in your retirement. Thank you, sir.

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Very nice. Thank you. Charlie. All right. Next on the agenda is our uh business highlight section. So, as part of our ongoing business spotlight, uh we're proud to recognize businesses that have recently opened in Surf City, Huntington Beach. And so on that list is Animal Republic Veterary Hospital Emergency, Astrobine on Golden West Street, Benjamin Franklin Plumbing, Hydration Room, IV and Injection Therapy, Clash Coffee, Old World Art Gallery, Parlor Donuts that just opened up next to Handles on PCH, Pico's Pizza and Coffee, Rowitine and Parent Wellness Center, Salty Forever, Sushi Nigeria, which uh Jason, our treasurer, speaks highly of and he's a foodie, so there you go. And Timber Lodge Parlor. So, thank you. [applause] All right. And then I've I've uh touched on this before, but building on that effort, uh we wanted to the city really introduced like a new video series that we're doing called Minute with the Mayor. And it's a new city initiative that expands how we highlight and collect I'm sorry connect with our local business community. And so this series is going to be about connection uh connecting the city with our local business community and giving residents a closer look at the people behind the places they support every day. And then each episode offers a quick authentic

snapshot of the business that helps drive our local economy and shapes the character of Huntington Beach. And I really just want to focus on keeping our our spending dollars here in the city and let people know about all these amazing businesses that are in Huntington Beach that they may not know about. So the goal will be, hey, if you, you know, want this kind of service, oh, I didn't realize it's in Huntington Beach. Well, now you go here and stay here, keep your dollars here, and support our economy. So to introduce the series, we put together a quick little short video that that captures the purpose and spirit. What's up, Huntington Beach? I'm Mayor Casey McKeen, and I'm excited to announce Minute with the Mayor. This video series will highlight our local businesses, the restaurants, retailers, makers, and entrepreneurs who bring energy and creativity to our community. Small businesses create jobs, strengthen our neighborhoods, and help define the culture that makes Huntington Beach Huntington Beach. With Minute with the Mayor, I'll be visiting businesses across the city, meeting the people behind them, and sharing their stories with you. Why they chose HP, what drives them, and what makes each one a unique part of Surf City. This isn't just a spotlight. It's a commitment to supporting our businesses that support our city. When our businesses thrive, Surf City thrives. I hope you'll follow along, discover new places, and help us celebrate the amazing businesses that call HB home. And if you're a local business owner interested in being featured, you can apply using the link in the description. We can't wait to connect with you and spotlight everything that makes Surf City so special.

All right, [applause] who was that guy? All right. So then tonight we're launching this series uh by spotlight and board riders cafe which is at 220 beach. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Sorry. Which is at 22017 Buchard in Southeast. And this is a new community focused uh cafe offering great food and handcraft drinks. And a special link a special thank you to Ian and Nicole MacArthur and Bill Webb for welcoming us in and helping kick off this final feature. So let it rip. Hey, Huntington Beach. I'm Mayor Casey McKon and this episode of Minute with the Mayor takes us to Board Riders Cafe. Let's go meet the team.

So, why don't you tell the community a little bit about Board Riders Cafe? Well, we opened up here in July, so we're a fairly new business here in Huntington Beach. We are no seed oils. We make all of our dressing sauces in house. We smoke all of our bacon here in house. Slice it up in house. Love that. And I know you guys have a connection to Huntington Beach. So, why did you guys choose Huntington Beach to open up your business? Well, I think that [music] we're all from here. This is home. We're connected through the surf, you know, surf world. I'm president of Huntington Beach Board Riders. Nicole grew up in the track right across the street. We both went to Huntington High School, so most of our life's been here. And it's surf city. Where else would you want to be? That's right. I love it. All right. All right. So, if someone came in for the first time, what's like something they must order from the menu?

Breakfast burrito. Anything with the bacon, for sure. Anything with [laughter] bacon. Ian's the master. Bacon or turkey. All the drinks are good. I mean, the banana bliss latte is probably the most popular. Make all of our the creams on top in house as well. They're fresh, they're good,

dude. [music] That's another gem right here in Huntington Beach. So remember to shop local, support small, and keep Surf City thriving. See you guys at the next stop. [applause] Butch ask where they're located. So Buchard and Banning at the southwest corner right across from Eater. So that's kind of a a flavor for what we're uh trying to highlight. Just more local businesses throughout the year. And I encourage residents to follow along, discover new local favorites, and support businesses that make Surf City home. And then for those businesses that are interested, it's it's all businesses across the board. Manufacturing, restaurants, retail, doesn't matter. If you guys are interested in being featured, we're taking applications now at shoplohb.com. And we look forward to sharing these stories and recognizing the people and businesses that define Huntington Beach. So, thank you guys.

Mayor, nice. You like that? That was Cody. Cody did that logo. Or was it Dang? Dang. Yeah, Dang did it. Slick. All right. Uh, next up is a community events announcement portion for one minute. So, madame clerk, do we have anyone signed up to speak for community event announcements?

We do. We have six speakers this evening for our community events announcements. The city will now receive public comments for community event announcements only. Each organization is allotted one minute for its announcements. When your name is called, please approach and use both podiums. State your name and organization for the record. Love Andrea Robertson, Max Daffron, someone from HBPD, director Ashley Weissaki, and our treasurer Jason Schmidt.

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Good evening, esteemed count city council. Oh, I'm so glad to be here. I'm just I love you all. Um, let's see. Love what you do, do what you love. My name is Love and I'm the president of the Surf City Sand Dollars and we put on the Miss Huntington Beach scholarship pageant every year in in the fall and every year in the spring we have a Queen's Rose Garden ceremony. And that's what we're up here tonight to talk about is that um rose garden ceremony right out here behind the memorial. Um we have a rose garden that has about 60 rose bushes that have been planted in honor of about uh the past 60 some odd queens. Although we've had over a hundred queens in um in our existence as sand dollars um and also the chamber of commerce. That's what started it. But um we we put out a proposal. We're we're just kind of working on trying to get the sprinklers fixed and that type of thing so that we can rejuvenate and um enhance the rose garden. Thank you. Happy New Year.

Thanks, love. [applause]

Hello, Mayor and Council. I am Max Staffron, the president of the Huntington Beach Chamber of Commerce. Great to see you all again. Uh wanted to just shout out we've got our best of HB Gala event coming up February 13th. We've got finalists from all different industries here in Huntington Beach. We've got restaurants, we've got gyms, we've got manufacturers. Get out there, get those votes in. Voting closes at midnight next Monday. Also, I'm very happy and very excited to announce that the Huntington Beach Chamber of Commerce Taste of Huntington Beach event will be on its original date this Sunday, April 26th. We're very excited about the Taste of HB. great event to come out and support your community. And finally, chamber's very thankful at the city's focus on our business community. That's what it's all about, baby. We love it. Thank you.

Thanks, Max. [applause]

Good evening, everyone. My name is Andrea Robertson, and I have been handwatering the Queen's Rose Garden since spring due to the inactive sprinklers and irrigation system defaults to keep our beautiful garden thriving. I'm here tonight to plead with you and ask for help turning on and repairing sprinkler system which is already in place the surf city sand dollars forward. Look forward to working more closely with our city and we want to make our rose garden a destination for tourists and we're the only kind in the United States and in the world that are affiliated with the city a city as a rose garden per se. So we really do need help with you repairing and keeping um the rose garden watering. I've been handwatering it for some time now and it's extremely labor intensive, but I'll continue to do it to keep our rose garden going. Thank you.

Thank you. [applause]

Hi. Please state your name.

Hello. Good evening, mayor and members of the city council. I'm Ashley Weissaki, director of community and library services for the city of Huntington Beach. And I'd like to extend an invitation to our community and each of you to come see over 280 artworks by 166 local artists in the Centered on the Center exhibition at the Huntington Beach Art Center, which will be showing January 31st through March 21st. Each year, Huntington Beach Art Center uh centers the work of local artists with Centered on the Center, a non-jured open call literal floor toseeiling exhibition. For many local artists, centered on the center is their first public exhibition. For others, it's an annual tradition of sharing their latest artwork. So, join us in celebrating these local artists. The opening reception is Saturday, January 31st from 6:30 to 9:00 p.m., and we hope to see you there. For more information, please visit huntington beachartcenter.org.

Thanks, Ashley.

State your name. You see too much in me already. Um, I want to quickly thank all the city residents who came out to our second financial literacy workshop last week. We're going to be having our third workshop focused on banking services on February 11th from 5:30 to 6:30 p.m. at Central Library. So, please join us either online or in person on a totally different topic. Please raise your hand if you have been rel received at least one scam text this week. Oh, come on. It's got to be more than that. Okay, that should be pretty much everyone. Unfortunately, 30% of all Americans have been scammed victims in the last year alone, with the average victim losing $1,600. And many of them are losing their life savings. I know what you're thinking. That's just old people getting scammed, right? Wrong. The group that gets scammed most frequently is actually our most techsavvy generation, Gen Z. And that's precisely why the police department and the city treasures office are partnering together to expand our current quarterly tax and investment scams class at the senior center to begin a monthly class that's going to be offered at Central Library. Each month's going to feature a different topic starting tomorrow night with scams 101, an introduction to scams at 6 p.m. in Talbert Library, a Talbert room at Central Library, followed by our Valentine's Day special, our number one scam type, which is romance scams. The classes are being taught by our dynamic, super volunteer, Steve Leaven, and are full of fun videos. I've attended multiple classes personally, and I learned a tremendous amount from each one. Steve's also going to be continuing his quarterly sessions at the senior center focused on seniors. I want to extend a send a very special thank you to Chief Parr for sponsoring this, Haley Gantron and the police department, and Steve for all they've done because they've done all the heavy lifting to make this possible. So, please come out and join us tomorrow night.

Thanks, Jason. [applause] All right. So, now we have an announcement of supplemental communications. Madame clerk, do we have any supplemental communications? Yes, we have supplemental communications for item number 12 in the city manager report. A memo and PowerPoint presentation received from Chauvu, director of public works. On the consent calendar, item number 17, one email. Item number 20, one email. And item number 21, updated and signed completion bond for building improvements associated with 21 and 22 Main Street.

Perfect. Now we have the public comments portion portion for agendaized items, please. Madame clerk, do we have anyone signed up to speak? We have nine speakers. Please call them down.

The city council will now receive public comments for agendaized items on the open session agenda only. When your name is called, please approach. Use both podiums. State your name and organization for the record. Mr. Amry Hansen, Pat Goodman, Tim Gettis, Ken Inaway, Roz Price, Russ Neil, Kathy Carrick, Jim Rossman, Chris Reneie, Sonia, come on up. Got to shorten it for the over here.

Go ahead, Ros.

Um, good evening, mayor and council members. I'd like to begin by acknowledging Robin Wood following the accommodation that was just presented by uh Mayor Casey McKinnon recognizing her retirement from Robin's Nest. Robin's lifelong dedication to atrisisk youth has changed communities and countless people in the lives of Huntington Beach. It has truly been an honor serving alongside her, walking in together in the Fourth of July parades, supporting outreach efforts, and participating in donations directly to impact youth in our community, stability and guidance on their behalf. Her legacy of compassion and service will continue to shape community for generations. I'd also like to voice my continued support for agenda item 26032, approving the memorandum of understanding between the city of Huntington Beach and the Art League of Huntington Beach for the shared use space of Huntington Beach Central Library. As I've shared previously, this thoughtful sharing of space strengthens community, develops and supports and arts and keeps public in institutions vibrant and accessible. Lastly, regarding the agenda item 26062, I'm in full support of the patriot place at the civic center. Patriotism runs deep in my family. My great-grandfather, five times over, Charles Carol of Carolton, signed the Declaration of Independence almost 250 years ago, and his brother went alongside him to sign the Constitution of the United States of America. It feels especially fitting that our beautiful city, one that so proudly honors service, freedom, and civic pride, is formally recognizing that spirit. It's truly an honor to be here tonight and to have my family's legacy of patriotism continue with the city of Huntington Beach. Thank you, mayor and council, for your leadership and dedication to our beautiful community. And as always, this is Roz Price, your Huntington Beach 20206 city council candidate. I'm grateful to engage and proud to call this city my home. Thank you,

Jim. Go ahead. Uh, mayor, city council members, city manager, city attorney, Jim Rossman. I'm with the American Legion Post 133 in Huntington Beach and I'm here uh to ask you to vote yes on our 26-03537. That's it. Any questions? Let me know. Thanks, Jim.

Um good evening. Good evening, mayor and city council. Tim Gettis here. I am speaking to agenda item 1626301, the annual review of city code of ethics established in 19 uh 1993 and amended just in uh two uh 2024. a code which should guide all our city council members and local leaders in their actions and decision-making and should have applied uh since the current city council majority was elected in 20 in 2022. This code requires our officials to pledge adherence to the the terms of responsibility, fairness, respect, and honesty. Has this uh council honored this pledge? Clearly, it has not. While there are numerous examples of violations to all of these terms, I focus on one respect. Has the city council, especially uh in the past year uh treated the public with patience, courtesy, civility, and respect even when they disagree with what is best for the community and its citizens? Not even close. And when the borishness of our past mayor violated this term, none of the council members or officials rose to call him out on it. Code blue. We all We need all of our civic officials to honor our city's code of ethics going forward or it is meaningless. Thank you.

Thank you. Next speaker, please.

Good evening. My name is Kenny Noway. I would like to thank the city council for creating the Patriot Point Memorial, which is a memorial honoring US service members and their families, and to honor and recognize the simple act of courage or patriotism by an American American, a Vietnam veteran, and Purple Heart recipient, Zachary Al Martinez. That was an amazing ceremony. As an Army reser during the Vietnam War, I did not serve in harm's way, but I was devastated by the lack of respect and dignity afforded our Vietnam vets. Even as a reser, I recall times when I was called a babysitter, baby killer, and I was sped upon as I wore my uniform. I am proud of the fact that our city has taken the opportunity to honor our vet Vietnam veterans and the memory of Zachary Al Martinez in such a special way. Thank you.

Thank you. Next speaker, please.

Hello. I thought that the veteran um ceremony was great and I really appreciate everything that you guys did to move that forward. I was just um wondering if you guys this is the Huntington Beach City Code of Ethics and I was just wondering did you guys ever read this or didn't you understand it? Because I can truly look at each one of you that you violated multiple times this code of ethic. It breaks my heart. It it breaks a lot of citizens hearts and I have three minutes which I thought maybe I'd have one so I don't have much more to say but oh thank you so much for the invite for the city hall meeting 6 o'clock on the 22nd.

You're welcome. Appreciate that. We'll see you then. No problem. Looking forward to it. Next speaker please.

Good evening. and Chris Reini, Huntington Beach native. At the last city council meeting, this chamber was thronged by people in honor of Kia, excuse me, KBY IPA. To that end, the city is voting on agenda item 17 to celebrate Cody IPA day every September 18th. That's lovely, but that's easy. Why don't we do more? We could take a lesson from Santa Cruz. Mark Abbott was a promising 18-year-old surfer who died at Pleasure Point in 1965. His parents built a memorial lighthouse overlooking the spot. It became the world's first surfing museum in 1986. What's keeping us from doing the same? Johnson Favaro already has the possibility of a standalone surf museum. Let's seize this opportunity to do something really special. Huntington Beach likes to do the right thing. Let's do right by Colby. Thank you.

Thank you. Next speaker, please. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. My name is Mr. Amory Hansen. I'm speaking tonight in support of item 22, the mayor and councilman Burns item to rename Patriot Place. This item will be an additional honor for Huntington Beach's veterans during America's semicentennial. I would like to read a portion of the ode to Operation Desert Storm. The full poem can be read on a plaque in the future Patriot Place. I encourage those interested to read after the meeting. quote, "The women and men, both young and old, who fought for the red, white, and blue are the greatest and best of the USA, and that's no brag. It's just true." End quote. Once again, I urge a yes vote on I am 22. Thank you.

Thanks, Amry. Next speaker, please.

Uh, good evening, uh, council and mayor. My name is Russell Neil and I live in Huntington Beach. I would like to commend this council for its great progress in addressing the city's needs and doing what you promised and what you were elected for, as detailed in today's strategic plan update. By taking a whole person approach rather than the state's ineffective housing first approach that ignores underlying problems, you have actually reduced homelessness and put people in permanent housing better than practically any other city in the state. As to the city's finances, it is easy for people to come down here and say you should do this or do that, but it's hard to actually improve things while meeting the needs and interest of 200,000 people. I think you're on the right track and commend you for your innovative thinking and attention to detail in managing our budget. But most of all, I want to thank you for standing up against the states destructive and irrational policies and fighting for the American way of life we enjoy here in Surf City, USA. forget the naysayers and continue to fight for this way of life as we celebrate our great country's 250th birthday. Balancing local control with central control is necessary for any state,

nation, or organization. Retaining local control over local concerns like land use, local elections, and control of local police is essential to prevent the overconolidation of power in the central government. Once again, thank you and good evening. [applause] Thank you. Next speaker, please.

Good evening. My name is Kathy Carrick. Um, I'm here to speak on agenda item 10. And I'm here to say a few words about promises made and promises kept. 2025 was a year when many of the goals set by this council were met and even exceeded. There is no more powerful desire by any resident than for their families to be safe. A 26% decrease in crime proves that Huntington Beach is clearly trending in the right direction. Residents and business owners alike can now feel safer due to the increased use of advanced technology, improved and robust policing strategies, and wise budgeting, among other things, this council has championed. A huge thank you to the HBPD and the city council for their collaboration in making this significant accomplishment possible. I also want to specifically applaud the city for becoming a leader in the county and the country on ebike safety. Huntington Beach launched the launched the nation's first police-led student ebike safety program by focusing on education and hands-on training for our youth rather than just citations. You've created a model that other Orange County agencies are now looking to follow. This program is a perfect example of how our city solves modern problems with innovation and community engagement. Bear in mind, in the interest of time, I have only highlighted two of the many accomplishments of this council in the last year. I want to thank the city's staff, our first responders, and this council for the hard work that goes on behind the scenes to make these accomplishments possible. Thank you for your leadership and for keeping HB safe, prosperous, and a place we are all proud to call home. Keep up the great work.

Thank you. [applause] Next speaker, please.

Um, Mayor McKeon and Council, at the this is regarding item 20, resoning. Um, at the last council meeting, you revealed your priorities with a 6-1 vote with one abstension uh to reszone the corner of Golden West and Garfield from industrial to commercial, clearing the way for gas station and car wash. Um, the council could have instead or in addition chosen zoning that supports housing, including muchneeded affordable or permanent supportive housing for seniors and people with disabilities. That option was not even considered as far as I know. This decision reflects a troubling pattern, a lack of commitment to addressing Huntington Beach's housing needs. The city still has no viable housing plan. neither one that complies with the statemandated regional housing needs assessment nor credible alternative of its own. By discouraging housing development, the council risks losing local control over planning altogether and inviting state intervention in city affairs. is trading long-term community stability with short-term commercial projects really what residents want from their elected leaders? Housing should be a priority, not an afterthought. And I do uh agree with Mr. Neil's comment about um the results of a couple of projects that have come online that were started several a few years ago before any of these council members were installed that um have really attributed to the decline in the number of homeless in our city. It is uh wonderful to see that and the progress that we've made and my

concern is because they take so long to develop. It's such a complicated financing that goes into building those facilities that we don't have anything like that initiated at this time. And I would really request you to consider looking at where we may um zone for permanent supportive housing uh and get some projects going. They don't have to be big um but livable, safe, clean, affordable housing for our residents. And you'll have generations to thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. All right. Now we have uh council committee appointment announcements. Council members, does anyone have any announcements? No. All right. AB1234 reporting. Any reporting? Next one. Openness and negotiation disclosures. Anybody? I had a call with the POA. Awesome. I also uh met with the police officers association on Friday, January 9th. Anybody else? All right. I had a I had a phone call with representative from the POA.

Sounds good. All right. Now, we'll move on to the uh city manager report. All right. Uh thank you, mayor. Um the first item on our um city manager report is an update of our 20 2023 2027 strategic plan. This will be the number the fourth bianual um progress update and Marissa Su um our assistant city manager will provide the staff report. Marissa, before you start,

um, if everyone recalls in November, uh, we tabled this to this moment now in the new year in January. Oftent times, unfortunately, in the press and some comments here, um, there's comments made that we aren't focusing on the core function goals of city government. And of course, that's not true. Um, but unfortunately, the press doesn't report on those things. I don't know why. Maybe it just doesn't get clicks. But the strategic plan was voted on and adopted after we got elected in 2023. And this set out goals that we wanted to achieve and here we are three years later. Um and want to walk through some of those results. So it's very important and we're going to take some time to go through it and just want to set that table. So thank you Marissa.

Okay. Good evening. Um, as

as uh as mayor stated, I'll be providing a strategic plan update for you. Uh, as background, this was approved in October of 2023. Uh, this is our fourth banual update, and these updates um are in order to ensure transparency and accountability, alignment with the current resources and policies, and a regular opportunity for council to provide feedback and recommend amendments. Quick overview of the plan. It's uh comprised of one vision, eight overarching goals, 23 strategies, 98 tasks, and 73 KPIs or key performance indicators. Looking at our overall progress as of the end of last calendar year, we're at 62% completed with 27% still in progress, five upcoming, and six on hold. All right, diving into our first goal, which is economic development. Uh looking at the accomplishments, we've launched the streamline surf city program which has completed 20 of its 28 initiatives. We've streamlined Olympic permitting to attract Olympic events and athlete practice facilities. This is to help through the permit process for those temporary events. We've advanced key initiatives including downtown banners and peer pennent projects supporting local businesses, the TISTA season to shop local campaign, and we posted two know your city AM connects. We've also created the HP Inspector app, which is to streamline the permitting process. With this, you can go in and schedule your inspections through the app. We've uh we've yielded a 23% increase in business certificates of occupancy or CFO. And we've awarded contracts for lifeguard tower advertising and created free summer bike valet programs. Looking at the key KPIs on the right, um this I'll get into them, but it's a mixture of KPIs that have been able to measure over the last 18 months and some that are newer as we've developed them throughout the plan. So, number of new business licenses, this is over the last 18 months. We've issued over 3,000. In the last year, we've um done 50 business

visits visits, excuse me, and we've assisted 100. Um and then number of touches with brokers, property owners, and existing or prospective businesses, 125. looking at future tasks. We'll be continuing to track the KPIs, implement our 2026 action plan, and continue with our business outreach.

M before you move on, so just really want to emphasize the streamline program. That was one of our uh campaign promises, and we all are really proud of that. We heard lots of complaints, especially from my colleague on the on the far right over here, Mr. Grul, about, you know, how critical it is to streamline city hall to cut the red tape and roll out the red carpet for business. So you guys can see that stat right there. A 23% increase in business certificates of occupancy issued year-over-year. That's a Thank you. That's a huge start. Um we're focused on it daily to get that number up. You'll see on the second bullet point, we then, you know, after, you know, the Olympics going down to San Clemeni, great idea from staff and actually from former uh council member Eric Peterson to bring that same program into the Olympic permitting process. So now we can attract Olympic events and business as all that tourism and industry is coming to California, coming to Los Angeles that we're going to capture a lot of that. So we, you know, spun off from the streamline program to cap to make sure we we're absorbing as much business investment as possible and dollars into our city. And then also that uh the home the HP inspector app is is key. It's huge. Um inspectors, as people know, are are very rare. It's it's hard to get them to come out to your house. And now we have an inspector app. So the resident can be at their home and then be facetiming with the inspector who can then over the phone verify the inspection. And so now you're you're increasing his productivity exponentially. Um and that's getting you know homes remodeled faster, permits done, values created more quickly. So these are just really some really key uh points to focus on. And then the the bottom second from the bottom work with the fire department trying to find new sources of revenue that isn't going to tax our infrastructure. And so we had that lifeguard tower advertising program that you're going to see be coming forward and we got some really good um accounts that are going to advertise on our towers. So these are huge wins that we are really proud of.

[applause]

All right, going on to goal number two, fiscal stability. Under the accomplishments, we've secured uh $2.5 million in city utility and natural gas savings over five years. This is through working with Procure America. We've increased parking revenues by 122%. That's $1.2 million in 2025. And this is with enforcement efforts and updated fee schedules. We've added diagonal parking downtown to increase our revenue by $95,000 per year. We've approved a balanced budget for fiscal year 2024 and 2020 2024 25 and 2025 26. and we're on track to do so again this year. We've implemented the transient occupancy tax recovery audit for STRs. This is an ongoing project. We've established consolidated real estate programs to ensure collection of revenues and updating leases to current market rates and terms and created a city lease review and optimization program. And we've also worked with a consultant to evaluate city-owned lease assets and implemented audit audits. This is also in progress in an effort to enhance our operations. Looking at our KPIs, we've um we've gained a total evaluation of grants awarded as 30 33.6 million and we've filed 39 grant applications. For future tasks, we'll continue to evaluate and audit city- own lease properties, continue balancing the budget initiatives, the balance budget initiatives, and provide financial literacy workshops. That's something that's ongoing.

All right. Also on this slide, and my colleagues, if you also want to jump in, but this is huge. Fiscal stability. We've touched on it before. We have we have structural financial budget issues that we've been trying to solve since we got on here that have gone, you know, go back decades. And so it's really focused on how can we optimize the city? How can we make it more efficient? How can we bring in the private sector to unclog some of these knots of of government bureaucracy, make it more efficient. Um, you know, the parking revenues, uh, those diagonal parking spaces downtown right in front of t, you know, tacos loss. I mean, that alone was a creative idea. Brought another 100 grand a year. um the toot recovery audit of the of the short-term rentals. I mean, again, that's just holding people accountable, making sure we're we're getting our our due tax from from the STRs. Don and a bunch of us up here really focused on consolidating the real estate program and making sure that we're collecting the revenue that we're due on all our amazing assets, our over 101 leases um in the city and also bringing in our private sector experience to bring those leases to current market rates and terms. So, we're protecting the taxpaying residents the our assets to make sure we're getting fair market rates for amazing real estate we have in the city. Um, next bullet point, the lease review and optimization program. Same thing. So, going through all 101 leases. Are these fair? Are there any leakage? Are we getting everything we should as as residents in the city? And so, we're going through that and then again, you know, having a consultant come in and now doing audits on all our leases, going through all 101. Are we are we getting what what our residents are due by leasing our amazing facilities to businesses? And so the this is key. It's only 60% completed, but it's huge. It's a great start. It's, you know, three years of work here and we're going to keep focusing on it.

You know, if I may, mayor.

Yeah. you know, you just see the bullet points up there and it's easy to just go that's just, you know, 10 bullets, but that equates to millions of dollars in in new revenues and in savings, uh, recoveries, uh, plugging leakage. So, you know, not to overstate that page, but there is a lot of upside in those bullets right there, and you articulated it very well. Uh, but there's a lot of good news happening right there on that page. Well, that's a fair point because there's a lot of meat on this bone and that's why I really wanted to to parse it out and show the residents how hard we've been working on all of this, you know, in the background and this is opportunity to show you the fruits of our labor and show you these successes. I mean, we're extremely proud of it. I hope you are as well. And again, you're seeing a theme of of fusing the private sector with government to make it more efficient and just really dusting off a lot of the rust that we have.

[applause]

All right, goal number three is high performing organization. Under our accomplishments, we again touch on the implementation of surf sign surf streamline surf city, excuse me, and the HB inspector app. We've also implemented 26 citywide professional development training programs. This is for employees. We've launched the new city website and we've streamlined the Olympic Olympic permitting process as well. [snorts] Looking at future tasks, we'll continue advancing the streamlined surf city initiatives. Um, we will launch an online performance evaluation system for city staff and create a workforce efficiencies by automating and streamlining department workflows. Looking at our KPIs, we've got uh an accela customer service satisfaction rating of 4.75 out of five. Um, we have a number of permittive applications processed and completed. So, looking at the number processed, it's over 15,000 and completed is 11,600.

[snorts] uh number of certificates of occupancy issued is 1,093. So just Jennifer a question on streamline. So the amazing results we've had so far. I mean what percentage are we even on that in terms of full buildout do you think of streamline? Yeah we're probably 70 or so percent we are working on the last few initiatives but of course to us streamline is ongoing. So, as we complete initiatives, we have staff bringing up other things that we could do. So, it's kind of like an evolving um dynamic program where we'll always be trying to look for ways we can make improvements to the process.

Perfect. Yeah. Just to emphasize, we had amazing results and obviously still a lot more potential to go. Andrew,

I mean from a, you know, the perspective of running a city like a business, we're faced with and the speed with which technology is advancing right now, especially with the implementation of AI. I mean, even in the private sector, it's hard to keep up with it. You get whiplash. But one of the most important things is that the city doesn't fall too far behind because there's a million cliches about government being so slow and it's just like you know the you know the DMV is still stuck in like 1995 but the goal here is that we as a city are moving at the same pace as private business and we are giving our residents and the prospective businesses the opportunity to step in here, open a business and generate revenue with the main goal of not trying to squeeze the residents and visitors of every single dollar that they have by virtue of increasing taxes, increasing fees. There's only two ways in which money is going to come into the city. We can increase revenue by bringing in new businesses, bringing in more heads, bringing more people in here, or we can increase taxes. That's a downward spiral. That's the lazy way out. So, it's about making sure that the engine is moving as smoothly as possible. And Streamline HB is ultimately the lubricant that helps us to be able to do so.

Well said. All right.

All right. Moving on to goal number four, which is homelessness. Giving a quick recap on the number of homeless who have exited to permanent housing. 2023, 56, 24,78, and 2579. So, we've seen an increase over the years. We've reduced the navigation center costs by to the city by $25,000 and created efficiencies with less staff. We've built a network of 25 organizations including nonprofits and religious group and religious groups to assist with needs and services. We've collaborated with congressional representative to secure $850,000 in federal funding for the navigation center. And we've supported the business community by developing trespass enforcement letters issued by the police department. Looking at our KPIs, we have a significant number of volunteer hours that are booked. We're at 126,123. That's uh a new KPI for us this past year. uh number of Bwell services referrals and clients over 8,000 and number of clients housed through the system of care 121. Looking at future tasks, we'll explore funding options for the pathways project, continue to develop that project as well and continue to work with the county, Caloptima, and other partners. So, this one was particularly important to us because when we were campaigning, um, Pat, Tony, Casey, and I, in 2022, the number one issue that the community would bring up was homelessness. And you couldn't walk the first three blocks without running into three, four, five homeless people. And, um, that's what we set out to fix. So, on one of our first meetings, we sat down with Chief Para and we asked him, we said, "Chief, this can't go on. tell us what you need from us, what tools do you need, so you guys can go out and get this done. And they did. They did an amazing job. And the best part is that we found people homes, we found people resources that they needed. We didn't just push them off to the next neighboring city the way we see other cities doing. Um, and we've been working really, really hard on this. We

have a monthly updates with our homeless task force who has been wonderful. um they come out downtown and um I'm everybody that's gone out there has seen the difference. People aren't really talking about the homelessness anymore because it has improved significantly and the fact that people are pointing out other issues. I mean, we're even starting to talk about coyotes again, which nobody even talked about because the homelessness was such a big problem. So, I want to thank our um homeless task force. They've done an amazing job. Um, we've had people who have come out to let us know how the homeless task force has helped them and found their homes and resources and jobs and counseling and we took a compassionate approach to it. So, I'm particularly proud of this. Downtown is cleaner. It's better. And, you know, even people who don't agree with us, it's safe. I mean, we have to admit that it is much safer to walk downtown than it was back in 2022. And that's thanks to our police department as well as uh fire department used to constantly be out there um answering to calls about home with homeless people. So I want to thank our first responders, our homeless task force, the community for being so persistent in bringing this issue forward and I'm very glad that we don't hear about this all the time. And even though we don't talk about it, the fact that we're not is a testament as of to how much better things have gotten around the city of Huntington Beach. There's still a lot more work to do. We're still not done. There's still We still fighting with the state. Um fighting with the county. We're trying to collaborate better with the county. Um Janet Wen, our supervisor, actually wants to uh expand some of the resources, maybe send us some resources locally so that us as a city, we know what our homeless people need, how to serve them better. We're different than Newport Beach. Our homeless population is different than Seal Beach. It's different than Lagona Beach. It's different than Long Beach. So, it would

be really great to have those funds here so that we can kind of cater to the needs of our homeless population here. So, thank you to everybody that put so much effort into this. [applause] Marissa, before you move on, can we I want to make sure the people at home can see this slide that's on the screen. Yeah, of course. Go ahead, Don.

Yeah, [snorts] as Gracie said, it's been a holistic approach, but I want to give credit where credit's due. they came out. They take a lot of negativity. We all do sitting up here and that's just part of the deal. It's no big deal. But um the praise you guys should get because it's th this goal achieving these goals started with a statement, a commitment and you made that commitment, a bold statement, reduce the homeless I remember on the contract with for the city and you fulfilled that and you're continuing to do so. So there's a lot of players that have helped with the success. But the bottom line is it started with a statement and a commitment that you form made and you followed through and you're going to continue. We all will. But I really want to commend you guys for for making that statement and then following through because it's easy to say something. It's not quite as easy to fulfill a commitment. You've done it. You're continuing to do it. Will do it. And uh you know, God bless you guys for that. Good work.

Thanks, Don. [applause] But if we go uh put that slide back up on the screen for the viewers at home. Thank you. So I really want to emphasize the numbers. So 2023 56 people exited homeless into permanent housing. So off the street through the navigation center in a permanent housing. 2024 78 people. 2025 I just talked to Jessica and our homeless task force. That number actually got revised up to 80. those these last three years we've achieved the record homeless reduction numbers in the history of our city. Those are all-time records and something we should all be proud about. We thank the homeless task force, our police, the community, you know, the collaborations with our 25 organizations working together. But we've we've shown that this problem can be solved. like we are a model for the state and other cities have come to us as the gold standard try learning how we're being so successful with reducing our homelessness and so this is one of the things I know I speak for Grace and my colleagues up here like is my my most proud proudest achievement so far to date being on council is those stats and again these are historic homeless reduction numbers in the history of our city thank you

more thing [applause] also I'd like to um point out that we are going to um need volunteers. They're taking their point in time counts right now. We do this every year where they go out to the homeless population, find out how many people still need still need help. Um who does anybody here have information that's up to what dates? January 27th. The 27th. Yeah, January 27th. Yeah. And um you can sign up. I think you can also find information on our Facebook page. Our city Facebook page has a link if you would like to volunteer to go out and help with the point in time count. You can register through the website. Thank you. Thanks, Marissa.

All right, going on to goal number five, housing. Under our accomplishments, we created the 2025 legislative platform supporting local control and we continually monitor legislation and re reviewing intergovernmental council actions. The result of these efforts is ensuring efficiently efficiently providing input to state legislation. Uh the city's in the top five for Orange County affordable housing portfolio size and we've adopted a sober living and group home ordinances. Under future tasks, we continue to monitor legislation related to local control of land use planning and continue to participate in regional agency efforts related to housing policy. Looking at our KPIs, uh number of housing and sober living related policy positions taken by city council, it's 51. Uh regarding housing, it's 34 letters issued in 2025. Uh we've also have a number of households receiving TBR TBR and rehabilitation 76 and number of code enforcement violations investigated and enforced over 6,000.

And TBR is ten uh tenant uh rental assistance. Correct. Yes. Okay. And also just on this slide it's it's another uh misstatement in the press that we don't have affordable housing or we don't deliver affordable housing, but that stat shows it right there. We're top five in Orange County for delivering affordable housing in our portfolio. And that's right at where we are ranked in the county in terms of size. So we are meeting, you know, our, as the state would say, our fair share. And so that's another misstatement that we aren't, you know, that we don't have affordable housing or we're not developing affordable housing. So I just want to make that point clear. [applause] Thank you.

All right, going on to goal number six, infrastructure investment. Under the accomplishments, we have the Banning Street beautifification and traffic safety upgrades and the 17th Street pedestrian safety striping upgrades. We also have the central library fountain repair which is in progress and the completed marina park and car park conceptual plans that's actually uh mistitled in here. Continuing process of the Edison park improvements as well. The beach playground upgraded and reopened and we've began re renovations on the be beach restroom facilities with inspections upgrading and repairing. We've completed the Davenport lift station project and enhanced the specific events policy and procedures and presented to city council specific events committee. We've also approved the water well project. I'm going to hop over to the future task. We also recently um presented the citywide park and recreation master plan that's under future but it's completed at this point. Looking at KPIs, number of beach restrooms under renovation is five. Number of uh events by location, these are all in 2025, 38 at the beach, 14 Central Park, four at the sports complex, five downtown Main Street, and four other locations. Number of special event permits issued 143 and percent of facilities assessed is 95. Looking at our future tasks, we'll complete our central park master plan, complete the Hy pump station project and the Hamilton and Magnolia complete streets projects.

Perfect. And just on this just again, uh we're told that we're not focused on infrastructure. We're not focused on potholes or paving our streets, but of course we are. So, this is a great list of infrastructure projects that have been started and completed. You know, Banning Street right by my house, that was a huge issue with speeding right by Eater, that that project's beautiful. If you guys have been down there, it's right by Board Riders Cafe, which we highlighted earlier, so go check it out. The fountain repair, people had questions about that. That's in process. Um, I'm sure you can imagine when the facility has been down for that long. Um, as you get in there and start tinkering around, like some other issues uh pop up, but we're getting through that. Highly confident we'll get the fountains back and going. That's a continued project that we're working on. The beach playground upgraded, I'm sure you guys saw that. That's that's an amazing playground. I mean, you know, where else could you have a playground on the beach, on the sand, on the Pacific Ocean? It's amazing. Obviously, the the salt air, you know, destroys it. So, we've put in some new materials to upgrade that. I go by it all the time with my children. It's amazing. Davenport lift station. People think that's boring, but that's huge to get all the uh waste water from the islands back up, lifted up over to to OC Sand down by Miles and Southeast. specific events permits. We've streamlined that process to to bring in more specific events, but to do it responsibly, right, with with our residents and neighbors in mind to make sure that's a great amenity to the community. And then the water well project, we touched on that last year. That's obviously huge. We have the the probably the highest aquifer of of water beneath our feet in Orange County. So, getting these wall projects up and running continues to make sure that we have water, fresh water for our community.

Thank you.

Looking at goal number seven, it's public engagement. Under our accomplishments, we've placed riptide warning signs on the peer and lifeguard towers for public safety, implemented numerous communitywide events in partnership with the citywide celebration committee. We ensure ask-on participation at the regular southeast area meetings and provide updates to the community. We use social media posts to enhance community engagement and highlight city programs. We have the Surf City Weekly which provides timely city news updates. The city treasurer and city attorney last year conducted community meet and greets. There are also the financial literacy workshops offered to the public which I touched on previously. The community engagement through citizens academy and junior citizens academy. And we held two budget community town halls in 2025. Looking at our KPIs, number of website visitors, views and average engagement. 1.5 million million dollars$ 1.5 million visitors 4.2 million views and 49 seconds is the average engagement time. Number of calls to the call center over 29,000. Number of social media engagements and impressions 2 million and 26.5 are impressions of the million and number of online videos created 575. Looking at our future tasks, we will create a city policy for website management and content cleanup. This is just an ongoing maintenance process for us and we'll expand our digital content PS uh PSAs and safety awareness campaigns for fire and police with an overall goal of community engagement. Again, not to um minimize these statements, you know, you look at the top bullet right there. You go, "Oh, that's just some signage there regarding rip tides." Well, I'm proud to announce I did part of the state of the city and my part was on marine safety. Last year, we had zero drownings in the city of Huntington Beach. So, collectively, it's great marine safety with the fire department. Even signs like this bringing awareness to an uninformed tourist who might not understand a riptide potentially I guarantee has saved lives. So it's just a bullet up there. But um the breadth

the magnitude of what a sign can do in in the testament to zero drownings last year is phenomenal. So it's much more than a bullet. I'm good. No, it's I think the slide speaks for itself and we're going to continue to to increase public engagement and really proud of these efforts. So, thank you.

All right, going on to goal eight, public safety. Under our accomplishments, overall crime is down 26% in the city. We've implemented the Breathe Safe HB program, a communitywide opioid response initiative, which the fire department has uh highlighted here previously. Completed construction of the real-time crime center and completed the special events policy. Created a city cyber response plan. We implemented an ebike safety program for public and PA and passed ebike safety ordinances. We passed ordinances restricting the sale of and distribution of credum and nitrous oxide. Passed ordinance uh setting minimum distance requirements from smoke shops to sensitive areas and implemented a cutting edge drone as first responder or DFR program. Under our KPI highlights, uh we've had three breathes safe events and we have uh 308 youth enrolled in the fire explorers program. Looking at our future tasks, we're looking to hire real-time crime center specialists to staff the crime center, developing a new customer service model in the fire department, and continue to fill the police and fire vacancies.

Go ahead, Bush. Yeah, go for it. Because I have some comments and I have some questions on this slide until the end. Well, it's dynamic. [laughter] You want you have on this slide? You want to talk first? Sure. Yeah, go for it.

First, I first I want to thank the entire staff that helps helps put together all this stuff. They I I work with these guys every single day. I see these people every single day and I watch how hard they work. And I want to thank you guys from the bottom of my heart because it makes our jobs a heck of a lot easier. I look at every single person there. I see them every single day. You you you some of you. I see. And it and thank you. It it it does make work a lot easier. Um [applause] I'm I'm I'm I'm kind of a sports guy. I like sports and so I pay attention a lot to say the sports complex but also sports that might come to Huntington Beach and I'm really really focused on on the Olympics right now. I went to um I'm [clears throat] our SCAG representative, Southern California Association of Government. I'm our representative for this region and that takes me to Los Angeles once a month and I sit with I don't know a couple hundred other representatives from all over Southern California, Riverside County, Sanino County, Orange, LA, Ventura. And our speaker uh two months ago was from he was the head of um LA28. And his whole speech or his whole presentation two months ago was he needs help. They need help. LA is out of hotel rooms. LA does not cannot handle anymore. Their transportation grid cannot handle any more than what they've already got coming in in 2028. And they they go, "We need Orange County's help." And I'm going, "Wow, this is going to be the best meeting I've ever been to because they they're actually talking about Orange County." And I went up and talked to him afterwards and I said, "Hey, I'm from Huntington Beach." He goes, "We're going to need you guys." And I go, "Um," he goes, "Do you know," he asked me if I knew somebody that worked at VHB. And I said, "Yeah, I know him." He goes,

"Well, I had lunch with him yesterday. He's retired now. Um, but he he has been working on bringing Huntington Beach into into the Olympic fold somehow and that's whe whether it's sponsoring a team or sponsoring a country uh uh and all the above. Uh there's a lot of opportunities for Huntington Beach out there. So, Marissa, can you got can you give me 30 seconds on what you think uh Huntington Beach's uh angle is, how we're going to approach this, and how we're going to get Olympic Olympic people, Olympic events, Olympic practicing, you know, whatever it might be here in Huntington Beach.

Sure. We actually have a policy that we've developed in order to help streamline the process for permitting as I mentioned before and I'll let Jennifer Bor speak to that. But then beyond that, we've also had discussions with the OC Sports Commission on what we can do to attract uh visitors and events related to the Olympics in LA 2028 at that time. And I'll turn that over to Ashley to speak to that as well. Go for it. [snorts]

Okay. So, um on the um OC Sports Commission front, we were at a meeting last week with the OC Sports Commission. Um maybe some of you are not aware, but the Winter Olympics have just kicked off in 2026. And so they will really start strategizing on how to bring um teams and and representation for Huntington Beach um at the at the uh end of the 2026 Olympic season. But right now, we have an internal working team of staff that is working together to talk about strategies on how to attract um teams and venues into um Huntington Beach practice venues. And then additionally, we worked um with the community development department on the community library services side to streamline our specific events process. So should an interested party approach us um our typical process takes a little bit longer to um onboard events. But for this within two weeks of being approached by somebody who's interested in standing up an event in Huntington Beach, we will rout begin the specific event process with them. So, we're looking to not only streamline our application process, but also continue having a seat at the table with the OC Sports Commission so that when they are ready to have uh these serious conversations about welcoming um countries into Huntington Beach, we're there and ready to accept those.

Okay. That's fantastic and I'm happy to hear that. I mentioned uh to Marissa today, I um when I was at my LA at the last Skagg meeting, I I I spoke with the mayor of Culver City and they just wrapped up the Netherlands the whole Netherlands uh uh Olympic team is going to be staying in is is going to be work living and being transported from Culver City. And I talked to the mayor of Mission Viejo and they have like the whole German swim and dive team that's going to stay and and and practice down there. And each city, as you probably know, is kind of responsible for transporting the the athletes to their venues. So, uh they're going they don't we don't have to pay for it. It's you know the the Olympic committees uh you know for those countries will pay for it. Uh we just have to be in the right place at the right time. And I said I'm not really interested in bad mitten. If we could get a really good sport here, that would be fantastic. Maybe basketball or something. So anyway, go ahead, Marissa.

Did you have anything else you want to add? Somebody Oh, Jennifer.

Well, I'll just add very quickly. So the policy we developed covers both um special events uh on public property and also we cleared the path for if there's an existing private facility that wants uh to be utilized for the Olympics for training or living accommodations for any of the teams or athletes. Um we essentially created a policy that clears the path through the development services department to get everything done. And I think our turnaround would be a week for like plan review. We will be uh foregoing the entitlement process until after the Olympics. So it would suspend any lengthy planning process. So that's what we've done. We have it already in place.

Thank you. Thank you. Okay. I'm just going to make just a couple comments public safety wise. Um and I'll be fast. I know that everybody's looking at me saying get done with this. Um I I visited a I visited a fire station firehouse yesterday. Huh? You did?

Yeah, I did. And just and I and I met with and and and many of you of you in here have met um uh Dr. Rom. I think we're the only fire department in in at least in Orange County that has a a doctor on staff that's a that's actually a sworn fireman. And uh they just yesterday I'm looking at the chief over there. They just yesterday commissioned they've trained I believe all the medics are now trained and we're the only fire station in all of Orange County or the only fire department in all of Orange County and I'm not going to be able to say this word right but we have a a a len a langoscope a langoscope right how do you say it kach chief

lingoscope

a linjoscope you wonder what a lingoscope is well you hope you don't ever you're not ever going to need it, but we've watched enough medical programs where we've watched people get intubated, you know, get the tube down the throat in a hospital or in a field situation. Well, this thing is a TV screen, a little TV screen, probably about, you know, 4 inches in in diameter, and it's hooked up to what they call the blade, which is kind of the guide where the hose will, you know, the hose gets fed down your throat, but it's got a TV camera on the end of it. So the the medics, our firefighters, [snorts] our medics can look at the TV screen as they're as they're uh uh putting the the the intubation tube down your throat to make sure it goes to your lungs and not to your stomach, which is a good thing, I believe, uh when you're getting intubated. And we're the only fire department in all of Orange County to have that technology today. And they all and they I think every truck has a a lenoscope on it right now. [applause] Is that right, Chief?

You did a great job.

Thank you. Thank you very much. And then not to not to leave out my my my pals over at the police department, but I I might have I might have touched on this at another meeting, but um as you know, our police department, and it's kind of, you know, one of my one of my little projects I'm I'm kind of overseeing or watching, and [snorts] that is the development of a crime laboratory, a real CSI crime laboratory for the Huntington Beach Police Department. And uh we got some really good news uh you know a couple months ago, maybe six weeks ago, and that is um that Golden West College wants to partner with the Huntington Beach Police Department and [snorts] basically donate the space, build the space, and and start an educational program at Golden West College uh for maybe future CSI uh uh crime crime scene students. and there and we're going to actually have a uh um hopefully a DNA lab there before the end of the year. That's kind of the goal. It may it may go into next year, but we're going to have a DNA lab here in Huntington Beach. And there's only one other DNA lab in all of Orange County, and the Orange County Sheriff's have it. So, we should be uh we should be rocking and rolling with the with a great, you know, our great fire department, our great police. I mean, our whole public safety is just fant fantastic. And I thank you guys and and and applaud you. That's it.

Oh. Oh, can I say anything? What?

Huntington Beach Police are also the lead or the like the number one agency, the most recognized agency possibly in the United States for ebike safety training. They're the model for all ebike safety training for all police departments uh in California. They've they've basically uh um other police departments come down here. I've been to a couple of the the safety, you know, trainings they they do over at one of the elementary schools and there's multiple police forces uh there helping with the training and so we have a model, you know, police department and a model ebike safety training program here in Huntington Beach and that's, you know, kudos to the Hunting Beach Police for that, too. So, thanks. That's it. I'll I'll stop now.

Perfect. And before we move on, control room, can we put that the public safety slide back up just real quick? All right. Just want to emphasize the first bullet point. Tony always touched on it. We always say it. The number one role of government is public safety. Overall crime is down 26% in the city. That is huge. Everything flows off of public safety. I mean, that number jumps off the page. That makes our community feel safe. Makes people want to shop at our businesses. You know, new businesses want to invest here. Like Champagnes that's going to the old IHOP on Main Street. That's a huge stat that should not be glossed over. Really proud of it. And again, we want to show this to the community so you guys can be proud of how your tax dollars are being spent and invested. And it's yielding results. Overall crime is down 26% in the city. That's amazing. So, thank you, police department. Everybody,

two really quick anecdotes to prove that, too, because a lot of times we just look at numbers on the page. Number one, before I got on city council, our restaurant was broken into. Um, the police were there instantaneously. They were taking fingerprints, following up immediately. They didn't had no idea who I was. They were just doing their job and they were very serious about it. Um, they followed up. They drove through the parking lot multiple occasions thereafter. We've had multiple issues just, you know, with with people coming through at the restaurant. Police always shows up in addition to um I speak with the uh general manager at Restaurant Depot. So, there was a very sophisticated kind of crime cartel that was going up and down the uh West Coast and they were hitting restaurant depots because they have a ton of cash. It's a cash and carry store and they were doing smash and grabs in the window. And you know, at one point me and my team members actually over a 5-year period, we had like four or five cars broken into at various times. They've completely cut that out. I just caught up with the general manager there a few weeks ago. Um they followed the guys moving out of town. and they had to get them before they went into LA cuz that's like the promised land once they get into LA. Then they they're actually given $100,000 checks for committing crimes. So, I'm really uh you know proud to be able to provide this anecdotal evidence from a business owner's perspective as well as talking to all of the other business owners in Huntington Beach because those are the things that are going to bring people into the city to continue opening more businesses.

I just like to use a quick sports analogy. You know, you might have the best players in the league, but if you don't attain the ultimate goal, the winning, they never fire the players. They fire the head coach. We are fortunate to have the two greatest leaders of our two biggest departments sitting on bookends right here, Chief McCoy and Chief Parr. I like to praise them. They get a lot of praise. They deserve it. But without great leadership, you will not get great results. So, it does start at the top. It's a culture. It's a credo. And these two gentlemen deliver with leadership. That's why we have incredible police and incredible fire and crime down. Leadership matters. All right.

All right. So, that's the end of our goals. However, we did want to include some initial additional city council initiatives to highlight as well. Uh we've implemented a new contract summary form to provide great taxpayer transparency for contracts and agreements coming to council for approval. Now, that's a an attachment for those looking at the agenda packets online. That's an attachment that's included in every item that comes to council for a contract to be awarded. We've initiated [snorts] initiated a new process for postcip completion to be presented to council highlighting the project's end result and budgetary fiscal performance. I believe we have a couple of those slated for the city manager reports following this. [snorts] We've initiated a b business develop ad hoc committee to support local businesses. initiated a feasibility and exploration of a community garden with aquaculture. Initiated review of downlink technology and a DNA lab program as Councilman uh Twining mentioned with the police department. Created [snorts] downtown landscape beautifification advisory group. Repainted downtown Ballards and updated new street pedestrian safety striping. [snorts] Uh restricted the sale and distribution of and banned synthetic restricted the sale and distribution of nitrous oxide. And we're in the process of updating with our volunteer organizations. just, you know, fun ones to talk about is obviously Andrew and Pat's uh community garden and aquaculture. That's an amazing project that's I think everyone's excited about. And then uh really proud about the, you know, just downtown on Main Street, just getting in there, repainting the ballards and updating the the new street, the pedestrian safety striping, really cleaning it up. We have our amazing uh community garden club ladies that are down there and one gentleman, Mr. Mr. shoot uh down there just fixing the planters, cleaning up, making it beautiful. Um we have a lot of plans for Main Street this year. Really want to get it kicked into high gear for the 250th celebration. The semi-quincentennial Independence Day is going to be massive. The parade and the festivities. So really proud about that. I've had a lot of comments people saying how much better it is, especially the businesses down there. So it's a really

good list of some init um some current initiatives that we're working on that we'll we'll bring to completion. Yeah. I just want to ask uh Chief Parr one question. Are are we are we uh I can't see you, but are we um currently testing uh Downlink right now? Do we have it installed? I heard that we might be already beta testing it. So, we are beta testing in one of the helicopters right now. Okay. It's uh and we'll come we gave you the report uh I think uh last session or the session before on on the update that we needed in two more and uh we're looking for funding for that. But right now we do have one. Excellent. That's pretty exciting stuff too. Thank you. Thanks Marissa. Good Don.

Yeah, one of the points I wanted to point out, you know, a lot of talking here tonight, but um you know, you read about it every day, the uh the deaths, you know, the FDA reporting, you know, more related deaths. So us, you know, uh that that ordinance we passed there for the distribution of creative and synthetic creative that has a lot of merit because that is a dangerous new synthetic and um you read about it all the time. More deaths, more deaths. So that was uh that was smart. Perfect. Y

All right, finishing up some major highlights in addition to what we've already discussed. The city's been ranked best beach by residents in the OC register, number one for the city beach, number two for HB State Beach, ranked 10th healthiest city in America in Wallet Hub, number nine in happiest city in America, and 10th best city for people with disabilities. Uh this is still very much a work in progress, but we're approaching twothirds completion on this with uh about uh a little bit upcoming still and some on hold as well. 6% on hold and that's it.

Perfect. Thank you. [applause] Yeah, I appreciate everyone. You know, we appreciate letting us take time, but it's important. It's a lot of work over three years with great results and really just wanted to give it due justice and thank everyone involved in the city and up here on the das. It's been a team effort and we're really proud of it. All right, moving on. On the city manager report, we have the study session regarding entering into a memo of understanding with Landifi to conduct a feasibility study to enhance an undeveloped area of Huntington Central Park East. City Manager, please introduce the report. Yes. Um, we have some, uh, Landify here today, and I will have Ashley Weissaki, our community and library services director, introduce our speakers.

All right. Good evening, mayor and members of the city council. I'd like to introduce Chris Cole, facilities and development manager, and Jonathan Brighten, president at Landifi ECT, to present this evening study session on an opportunity to enter into anou with Landifi. Good evening, mayor and city council. Um, I come before you this evening with a concept, an idea, if you will, about how we can take the old abandoned, defunct outdoor gun range in Huntington Central Park and transforming it, transform it into usable public open park recreational space. You might be asking, how might that be possible? And as Ash had mentioned, I have here tonight Jonathan Brighton from uh the company called Landify. and together we put together a PowerPoint that will indeed show you how that might be possible. So you also might be wondering is this concept realistic? Is it possible? Would it even be feasible? So Jonathan and his team from Landify are prepared to go into the site and do some in-depth studies to answer those questions for us. So if there is interest among you uh for us to have those questions answered uh we would come back to you at some time in the future with a proposed memorandum of understanding that would allow Jonathan and his team to go into the site conduct those studies and get back to us with those answers. Is this concept realistic? Is it possible and is it feasible? So with that we'll go ahead and get started with the presentation. So, as I'd mentioned, the purpose of the study is to collect feedback from you, the city council, on whether or not to allow Landify, uh, to go into that site underneath a memorandum of understanding and can conduct those necessary studies to indeed tell us if this concept of transforming that space into open park correctional space is possible, realistic, and feasible.

Uh, just to start off with just a few words on on Landify and who we are and what we do. Uh so Landifi is the US subsidiary of Group PCT. Group PCT uh was uh created in the 1970s in the Paris area of France. Uh and it started with the uh construction or the reuse of dirt that was uh generated by the big constructions that were happening uh at the time in the in Paris and since then the company uh completed more than a hundred uh different projects in France and Europe. Uh we work on a very diverse uh situ um range of situations. Uh we work on derelic sites, we work on polluted industrial former industrial brownfields, on quaries, on illegal dump sites, uh on disregarded sites or environmental sensitive areas. So really a very broad range of sites that we try to heal. We work on uh on projects to develop things, heal them first and then develop things that are useful for the communities. Uh we uh developed uh as I mentioned earlier more than 100 sites in a very broad range uh of types of sites. Uh we started with parks and diversified into recreational areas, equestrian centers, renewable energies, uh any kind of land use development we we're capable of delivering. And all of this is done uh through uh partnerships with cities, communities uh any kind of land use uh uh land users basically. Uh we started uh our operations in California uh around four years ago. Uh and we are working we're currently working on 12 projects in California. Uh we're working for instance in the San Francisco Bay with the US Fish and Wildlife and the Co Coastal Conservancy on helping them uh import dirt to consolidate levies in the south uh bay of San Francisco. Uh we're working with the city of Chula Vista uh

on a project on their property. Uh it's going to be a a for the future university project for the city of Chula Vista and they're going to need uh green areas. So, we're importing dirt uh in preparation for this project. We're also working with the city of Vagavville uh near uh San Francisco on the development the redevelopment of uh one of their parks and we're creating different areas including a bike park which is going to be uh a very interesting project. We started importing uh materials and dirt uh last year for this project and we hope to complete it within the next few years. And we're also working on other projects with uh other cities uh and other kinds of uh uh types of uh pieces of land like quaries or uh uh or even uh illegal dump sites. The business model uh that we developed uh throughout the years is is fairly simple. It's really when you think about construction, when you're building something or destroying, you need to uh get rid of the dirt. And so uh the way for us is we see this most of the people see this as a waste. We see this as a resource. And so the idea is to take this this dirt obviously making sure that it's uh clean. And so all the the key of our expertise is in the traceability making sure that we know where the dirt is coming from. It's been through all the analytical process. So we know it's clean and then we get the dirt and we reuse this dirt in creating landforms uh that we uh develop. and then on the land forms we develop whatever the community needs uh uh and in consultation with uh with the community. So that's really how the how the process works and it's really a partnership public to private partnership. We work with uh all the stakeholders uh including cities, land owners and communities to define what is required in a specific area. None of our projects uh look alike. it really they

really depend on what is required by the local communities and we co-design those projects and then we uh we deliver those projects for the communities. So that's really the way the our model works is first identifying pieces of land where we think that there is a potential and so that's the case uh in the in your in your city with uh with the the project that we uh that we're looking at. Then we will work on defining what is required. Uh and then uh once we have the the project, we have all the authorization, we go through all the authorization process. Then we start importing uh the dirt in order to deliver the project. And then once we've created the land form, we redevelop uh the uh the the project. And obviously when we welcome the dirt, we um our customers which are the construction companies are paying a tip are paying us a tipping fee that's 100% uh of our revenues. And those tipping fees are used uh to fund the projects that we're developing. So when we uh when I mentioned the 100 projects that we developed in Europe, all of them were funded through the tipping fees that we're developing. So that's also saving money for the communities by using uh the money that the construction companies are saving as well on their side because they are uh going less far than they would go today. When you have a construction project in your city, uh you need to know that this the dirt that's generated from your project can go as far as the desert, as far as Corona, very very far uh from your uh from your city. So what we are trying to do is intercept those flows and reuse locally the the dirt and the money generated through uh through the dirt to fund the projects that we're developing. So that's really the whole uh process and the whole business model that we've uh developed for the past 50 years in Europe and for the past four years in California.

Uh just to give you an an example of the redevelopment that we've uh that we're currently working on. So the the project I mentioned in Vagavville, it's going to be the redevelopment of a flat park. Today it's a park owned by the city uh it's flat. The city wanted to redevelop it and to create different activities including a bike park. And obviously the funding was not there and so uh we stepped in and uh started working with the the city and the community on defining exactly what the uh the bike park needed to look like. And once we uh did that then we uh got obviously all the permits and the and the studies and then uh what we're doing at the moment we are creating the landform by importing porting dirt and receiving generating the budget that's going to be used at the end to develop the bike park on top of the landform. So that's really what we're doing at the moment in in Vakavville and we would love to uh to do it in uh in your beautiful city as well. And so in this slide you can see the proposed area of focus. Again it is the old abandoned gun range that you can see here in this diagram. It's tucked up against the back side of the sports complex on the northern tip of soy Miller Lake that's there off of Ellis Avenue. And so it's approximately about 8 acres of real estate that we're looking at. Uh it is currently unusable due to the contaminants in the soil soil from the use of the uh gun range activity. Uh and is currently designated as park open space already. And that space is also uh part of the central park master plan. Uh it it is today. So it is something there for us to uh enjoy should we find a way to to work through the mitigation uh issues. And so the next step would be if there was interest to bring a memorandum of understanding back here to council at some point time in the future that would allow uh Jonathan and his team at Landifi to conduct those studies to tell us whether or not this is going to be something that is actually realistic, possible, and feasible. uh for them to conduct the studies. There's no financial risk to the city. It is all on

the dime of Landify to pay for those uh different consultants that will be used to do those studies. Uh and then the city the the the part of the next steps would be that um should the the Landify go ahead and make that investment into those studies. Uh they come back to us that yes, this is a a concept that will work to mitigate the issues and to be able to put forth a new uh park open space issue. uh we could not take those test results and then run off to another company and do the exact same thing with another company. We would have to go with Landify uh with their findings on whether or not this is a feasible project or not. Uh the additional next steps would be should this uh study prove that is the concept is feasible and realistic uh that would begin the community input process and we do that through the vehicle uh known as the Central Park master plan update. And so much like we did with Car Park, Marina, and Edison, uh we let the community tell us what they want in park facilities. So it's not us deciding what we think the public wants, it's them telling us what they want in these park open spaces. Is it pickle ball? Is it racket ball? Is it tennis? Is it simply just park recreational space with trails going through it? So we let the community have a chance to tell us what their needs and wants are for those spaces. Uh if it is feasible again, we will consult with the city attorney's office to make sure that there are no conflicts with measure C and measure L. You're all familiar with measure C. Uh measure L was the measure the ballot measure that was passed uh to build the sports complex. So being the close proximity to the gun range, we'd make sure that there's no conflicts with measure L as well. Uh we'd also again bring back a contract. So should we say this is going to work, let's go ahead and move forward, we'd bring a contract that would spell out the scope of work and the project details for Landifi to go ahead and conduct the import of soil and then build us that recreational facility that we desire. Um, and then also depending on what the community tell us they want out there. Is it just passive park space with trails or is it something more robust, a more uh built

out recreational facility of some sort? So there's a big variety of what that end product would look like in terms of cost and and scope. And again, we would let the community tell us what their needs and wants are for that. And so with that, that concludes the presentation, and we'll open up for any questions you might have. Any questions, Andrew? Uh, thank you so much for the opportunity, the overview. I think just from a very, very high level. I mean, it'd be wonderful to get eight plus acres back for open space in the city. Um, a couple questions on the process, the procedure. Um, so right now we we have no idea what the contaminants are. Do you have a general idea?

It's mostly lead. Yeah, it was a form of gun gun range. So it's mostly lead. Okay. And then in your estimation, you know, with lead being the primary contaminant. What do you think a timeline on something like that would be? This is the the goal of the study is to really to really do that and and to look at the different techniques we there's a lot of, you know, progress in terms of bio remediation. There's a lot of, you know, funding also available for that. So a lot of things are available out there. So it's it's it's a very interesting also case study in general to look at different possibilities and with the the progress in in the science that there might be a very costefficient solutions available

and with your just speaking on the project you mentioned as an example in Vakavville. Um how long was that whole process? Are you still in the midst of doing it just just use just to really kind of use that as a benchmark or a example? Yeah. From the time the city contacted us on the project to the the start of the import of the dirt, it took us basically two years. Two years. Yeah. To start the project or to complete it.

Yeah. Because a lot of design. So we had four uh work sessions, public work sessions to design the the bike park. Uh and then we had we went through the different commissions. Then we had a full uh sequ to uh to work on as well. So that there was you know lots of studies basically to be to be done before. So that's also, you know, white took us took us a lot of time might be different on this on the on this on this site. So that's also part of the feasibility study is how long is it going to take, you know, with regards to how you know much dirt we can import on the site and is it worth it or not? Is is is the um supply of dirt limited? No. No. Okay.

And and we were talking about the Olympics. Uh so uh so that's also going to generate as you as you can imagine uh lots of you know works and construction and and uh and uh and dirt. So uh so there's also a very good a very good and interesting source and coming coming obviously from a French background. We had the went through the same questions for the Paris Olympics and it generated lots lots of dirt that we reused on many of our projects in the in the Paris area.

Fascinating concept. A couple questions for Chris. Um, does would would the plan be to uh run kind of a concurrent process by which you were doing the design on the park and getting public input as they were going through and determining the the procedure or would it would it be going through the entire process with Landify and then working with the public to determine what they were looking for in regards to the space?

Yeah, timing is definitely key. It would be a perfect situation if it were aligned with the timeline for the Central Park master plan. Um if not, we would definitely do a secondary outreach to the public. It's very important that we have the public provide their input about what kind of amenities they want in this space if it were to come to fruition. Okay. And then in regards to the contract and theou etc. has that gone through the finance commission or would that go through the finance commission uh for theou for any of the details on the the agreements and theou? Yeah.

Uh I I don't believe they generally would go through the finance commission for a generalou. We would definitely uh work step in step with the attorney's office to draft that up uh to something that they they think is palatable uh and then bring it to you, but of course we could we could bring it to wherever is directed to do so. Okay, that should I got some Go ahead.

Okay. Um just to kind of follow up on that. So what I heard just to be clear, uh theou it requires no financial commitment whatsoever. Zero financial risk to us. We're basically just saying, "Yeah, you could go in there, poke around, let us know, you know, what you discover and see if it's realistic, see if it's feasible and and ultimately no commitment either." Um, Chris, I'm curious, are there any other organizations that provide this service that we've researched? Uh, we have not been contacted by any. So, this is the first conceptual idea that's been presented to us, but we have not shopped around for any other types of businesses like this. Uh was the genesis of this them reaching out to us or were we looking and found them?

They did approach us with the idea. Okay, that's it.

Kind of in that same theme. So, Councilman Williams kind of touched on. So, let's assume we have anou. You go out there. Um the cost, there is no cost even if work is conducted. you're moving soils around because I think you're you're you're monetizing the dirt or what? So at what point does your efforts stop at no financial exposure to the city and then you give us a buildable basically plot so to speak you know elevated how we want whatever that case may be based on a vision that we give you or based on do you do the work with no vision first to find out first you got to find out if it's even feasible to move the dirt around. It's yeah it's really everything's dictated by the volume obviously really again as I mentioned 100% of our revenues are generated through the tipping fees and tipping fees it's just tipping fee times the volume so

can you can you tell us what a tipping fee is I don't know it really if it varies depending on the uh I mean what what is a tipping fee sorry sorry it's it's what is what is paid by the construction company when it goes to a landfield or to a quarry to deposit dirt it needs to pay a tipping fee when you go to any landfield you need to pay before entering into. Okay, that's sorry that's that's the that's what the construction world is paying today.

Real quick, just just educate because I'm in your guys I'm in the development industry. So just explain. So when you when you have construction projects, right, you're excavating soil and hopefully it's clean fill they call it and then it needs to go somewhere, right? So what's unique about their business is they now are finding areas to bring in clean fill. On the other side, a lot of, you know, I've I've been in projects where we actually need clean fill. It's actually very expensive. You have to pay for it, right? So, they're actually moving the dirt around. And so, that's what he said. He's you guys are getting paid by having a project that needs to offload clean fill. And they're paying you to offload it. And then now they're finding a creative solution where to bring this clean dirt, this clean fill, and also, you know, remediate the current contamination on this 8 acres that's currently unusable. So, it's an interesting like business plan. But is do I essentially have that correct?

It's exactly that. Exactly. And so really everything's dictated by the volume. And so this is where we're going to come up all together with a with a design that the community accepts. And with this design, we'll be able to say that's going to be 200 300,000 cubic yards of dirt that's going to be needed to be imported. Is that going to work financially for us or not? So that really the the end result of the feasibility is how complicated is it going to be in terms of studies and how what what the costs of the studies are going to be and then what the design is going to be or what you know the landform is going to look like and what it's going to generate in terms of revenue and is that going to enough to fund the project or not if that's

the word tipping though is just is the truck bed tipping the dirt out isn't it? Isn't that that's the kind of tip the tipping fee is the truck tipping its bed. That's why dumping instead of a dumping fee, they call it dipping. Yeah, it's a dump. It's a It's got different names, but yeah, dump dump fee. Dump fee is another uh is another word that's used. Is this a is this an export site or an import site? It would be an import site. But you got to export all the bad stuff out and then bring good stuff in. Correct.

That's the question. And also with the feasibility study, the capacity that we have to potentially keep the dirt on site and because you're bringing in extra dirt to confine the pollution with the dirt that you're that you're doing. We have a several examples obviously in Paris of former uh brownfields where we used this 30 years ago. We used the dirt to confine the pollution. And so now you can see today 30 years after everything grew and and you've got you know recreational areas. So the capacity that you have to put geoteexile to cover that with dirt uh in order to basically not move the the dirt because that's very cost costly obviously to to do and and also other techniques that are available by remediation as I as I mentioned. So really the goal is to see what can be done on site. If you know some of it needs to be off hold then the cost of all of that put together with in front of that the revenues that are going to be generated by the project is that working or not. Okay that's the whole feasibility studies objective. So on this side, do you also do remediation or do you purely just move dirt and you you take the expense to move the dirt based on the benefit for the person that needs the the dirt moved or are you also in the construction business where you have people to pay for remediation and things like that?

We don't do it ourselves. We pay uh external providers uh but we don't do it ourselves. Okay. So, and you pay them by the tipping fee. We pay them. No. Well, that's going to be really on how much it's going to cost depending on the volume that needs to be uh offholdled. So, they're going to tell you you need to offhold, you know, 10,000 cubic yards. The cost is I don't know 100 $100,000. And uh and that's the cost that needs to be uh supported by uh by the project. And and when you say by the project, do you mean by the city? No, by [snorts] the project. Okay. By the project.

Okay. So Don so basically they'll look at it and go okay we have just rough numbers say to keep it small like 100 cubic yards of dirty soil that we need to offall what's that cost X all right and then they'll now their business is to bring in clean fill and they'll get paid for that so that's the analysis they're going to do is is assess how much dirty soil is there how much they have to take out what that cost is and then will it be positive for them to actually do do that and then bring in clean fill from their other projects to back fill that correct do I have that correct exactly so that's that's like the calculus they're going to do. Yeah. Exactly.

So, you make that determination as part of theou, right? And at that point, in that scenario, at this point, there's no financial dollars coming out of our coffers at this point. You you're managing the project. There's money moving in, dirt moving out. There's there's paid balances, and that's all done basically internally between, you know, your vendors, you, the dirt, the movement, the transportation. Then we get to a point where we have a buildable site, right? That's the goal. And then and then and then then we come to you and we say we've listened to the public and they want X Y and Z. Who then puts a cost analysis? You guys, Landify or you out of the picture at that point other than you might say, "Hey, do you want us to build some hills?" But after that, you're not in the infrastructure game, right? No, we use external providers. So the the good example is the bike park we're developing with the city of Vakavville. So the the the way that we worked with the city is working with consultants. We you know on the design phase we obviously supported the cost of the consultants. Uh it's a much larger project. We're talking about 1 million cubic yard of dirt. So that's capable of covering the cost of the constructions that that are going to be on top. So the city's not going to pay uh a dollar for the project at the end. But because of the large volume here, we need to to see what kind of volume we're talking about if we're capable of covering 100% 50% of the cost of what's going to be developed on top. So that's also the whole feasibility study is not only we're covering the cost of the studies but we're also trying to cover the cost of what's going to be developed on top. So I don't know what you know let's say soccer field for instance that you want to develop we're capable of you know covering the 20% 30% depending on again all the cost that we put together uh for the creation of the project

and as part of your business model if if you can't cover the entire cost and we have a project that we like are are we committed to your contractors your relationships as part of the landified you know agreement or we can utilize whoever we need

you Yeah, usually it's same thing for the studies we work with, you know, people that the city are used to working with with, you know, for instance, the the bike park we uh we worked in Vakavville, the landscaping company was a landscaping company that was used by the city on on previous projects. So, they knew very very well the uh uh the sites. So, we used them uh for for our project as well. So, we're very flexible in terms of who we use. We want to be as efficient as you know uh quick as possible. So we we prefer working with people who know obviously the projects already and who are accustomed to the uh to the city.

So this would be my last question because I don't want to monopolize you. So the first goal if we were to move forward with you is to you're going to determine how you can give us a clean soil um platform basically remediate bring in and cover whatever the case may be. But you're going to say you're going to you're going to study and you're going to determine how much contamination is there what it's going to take to remediate it, cover it, move it. whatever to make sure it passes through all the environmental uh checks and balances that that our state has. That's your initial goal, right? Correct. I

mean, how fast do you make that determination of what you think it would encompass? We say yes on that check and then completion. I guess that based that that's based on the scope, but how fast till you get to point A decision. Do you want to move you landify this makes sense or it doesn't? The quicker the better. It's going to really depend on the on on the answers. We're going to work also with the agencies and it's really going to depend on the time on their timings as well. So, you know, the quicker the better. Couple, you know, couple of months would be really the maximum for us. Is there a tail to your contract? You know, we say, well, we don't like it right now. Um, you know, are we bound by anything?

No. The only thing is if you develop something using our model in the future it's doing it with us. So if you just you say thank you very much goodbye landify and the day after you hire a company to do exactly the same project by importing dirt and creating a landform that's where you know uh gave gave obviously all the investment that we we're putting on front is is is also to make sure that we uh we work together if you develop but you can develop anything else without us. If we say we want to develop a park and we didn't use you, we can't develop a park. Is that what you're saying? You can't develop a flat park. It's not It's develop a park using a model which is importing dirt and creating a landfall. Okay. Shape. We could still have a park with different shapings.

That's it. Okay. That's it. Could I follow up with some more questions? I'm curious. Um, as far as the sports complex goes and the footprint of that, uh, Chris, you might know the answer to this. You you brought up the sports complex and how there might be a conflict with Measure L. Does that footprint go out to where the old gun range is? Would that be considered sports complex or is it just that open space park recreation? Uh yeah, it shows that the gun range space is uh separate from the footprint of the sports complex. Okay. But just for over precaution, we would definitely make sure and ask legal opinions on whether or not there's any type of conflict depending on what the project scope is in the end. Yeah. And then is it Mr. Brighton? Is that your It is. Yes.

Yeah. Um, have you had an opportunity to familiarize yourself at all with Measure C and and Measure L? We're kind of a peculiar city in that sense. Yeah, Chris tells us about it. Yes. Yes. It's very peculiar, but yeah, I mean, it's part of the process and every city has, you know, specific process. So, we're, you know,

just out of curiosity, when you do these feasibility uh studies and obviously you're looking at whether or not the ground is toxic, you know, there's most likely going to be lead from the gun range. Um, you know, what does that process look like? are you drilling into the ground and testing the soils? I'm just curious timeline wise, how long it takes and uh maybe not an exact dollar amount, but what type of investment is this? Cuz what I'm concerned about is maybe we're putting the cart before the horse. What if you do this feasibility study and you put a lot of energy and finances into it just to discover that measure C and measure L are a conflict and this would require a vote of the people in order to go forward. um we'd be wasting your time and be wasting your your resources.

That's why the idea of the feasibility study is working on all the aspects. So the pollution level but also all the political side of things to see how we can phase the project or structure the project uh in order to uh to take this into consideration. But that's exactly part of the feasibility study. If we see that it's going to take us 3 years, that's that's obviously going to going to be uh going to be uh something that's going to be included in the the feasibility uh study for us. Okay. So that's prior to theou. Is that right? It's with the within theou that allows us to start investigating those aspects.

Okay. So if we sign off in anou, we might discover in that process that this is a conflict with measure C and measure L. I'm just concerned that might be putting the cart before the horse with all the effort you'd be putting forward. And can you guys correct me if I'm wrong? There's an additional process that'll take place where we create another contract to actually develop the property. Is that correct? Yeah, that's correct. The MOU is just a starting point.

That's right. This initialou is just for studies. Uh then again if it is something that choose that is shown to be uh realistic and um feasible then the next step would be is to develop a new contract with landifi that spells out all the details of the scope of the project the timeline uh all the nuts and bolts of what that would mean in conducting that project including environmental analysis and doing all that like work and okay

and I do believe a lot of that will be covered in the initial study too as well. uh what kind of different um entitlements uh major C uh conflicts if any um also all the different other uh outside agencies uh you know SQA issues um all the other regulatory agencies will also be uh studied and revealed through the initial study as well and just so Landifi is going into it eyes wide open I know that that sports complex you know used to be a mushroom and landfill so there might be a little bit more than lead in there when you go poking around we And you've got a landfill next to it as well. [laughter] Good.

Before we would ever get to a vote of the people, you would be costneutral anyway because in your scope before you move one, you know, truck of dirt, you're going to make determinations that can I do this and basically balance my cost. So be so even if it never passed with the people, you really aren't at risk for anything other than time because you've already made a calculation that your cost will be covered by the way you manipulate movement of dirt and you know move it in, get paid, move it out, things like that, right? So even if you gave us a buildable um you know parcel and the public said no, we don't want that, you're really not at risk. You have your time at risk, but your capital is covered based on how your business model works anyway, right?

Yeah. Okay. No, the only risk is exactly what um what council member mentioned. It's really the first, you know, studies and that's the case in every city when we start a feasibility study. That's the money that we have at risk. But it's something that we need in order to make sure that we have, you know, the right answers and that we investigate things properly to see if the project uh works on all the aspects. Good. Thank you guys. Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it very much. All right. Next up is a capital improvement project CIP update. City manager, please introduce the report.

All right. We have two um capital project updates. Um and I um Chiao Vu and I see David Fade, our construction manager, who will likely provide the reports. Good evening, city mayor, city council. My name is David Fate. I'm the public works construction manager, and I am happy to report a CIP summary update for you here this evening. We have two recently completed projects totaling approximately $6 million, um, which recently received the NOOCC. Our first project tonight will [clears throat] be the CIP for the sewer lining. This project included almost 24,000 linear feet of sewer mane which is approximately 4 and a half miles. It included the rehabilitation of 86 manholes. Some of these manholes deteriorate due to sewer offging. So we addressed this in this project. The work included the cleaning and removal of calcium deposits, trenchless lining utilizing UV lighting and CIP. CIP stands for cured in place pipe. The UV stands for ultraviolet lining which is new to the city of Huntington Beach. Sir, in the preparation reading for this uh PowerPoint stuff, can you kind of tell us where this is? Nowhere in the PowerPoint was there a location or area of the city, and I'm just curious where it was.

Thank you. So, this project took place across four different RDS in various uh areas in the city of Huntington Beach. There wasn't one specific area. We addressed projects um pipeline, excuse me, uh needing to be repaired throughout the city as identified in the sanitary sewer management plan. This this was not just one continuous. This was uh across four different RDS.

RDS meaning residential districts. Is that correct, Dave? RDS are our residential reporting districts. Yes.

So, the benefits include the improved sewer flows, the reduced level of maintenance, and the increase in system integrity, reducing the chance of SSOs, which are sanitary sewer overflows, which ultimately can cost the city in fines. The schedule we started in July of 2025. We reached substantial completion on December 10th and final completion occurred on January 15th. We completed this project with 26 days left in contract time. Here is our financial project summary. The original contract amount was approximately 1.6 million. We had change orders totaling almost $22,000. These change orders were due to the conditions of the pipe and the pipe sizes. We had it we saw an increase in pipe size which ultimately um we were faced with change orders for that. We had a contingency budget of approximately $160,000 and we are left with the remaining balance of approximately 139,000. In conclusion, there's been some key outcomes. So, first off, it's a critical investment in our sewer infrastructure. We are seeing a 50-year service life with this newly lined sewer. It was delivered with minimum minimal disruption to residents and various shareholders and stakeholders. It was delivered on time and within budget. And this project marked the first use in the city of Huntington Beach with ultraviolet curing. Um what you see in

these pictures here are uh to the left, lower left are ultraviolet rigs curing the pipe. Um upper right is a CIP which involves large boilers throughout the street. Typically these will be about six trucks and trailers. Uh this project utilized that UV curing. So two box trucks were able to um create uh minimum minimal footprint on our city streets. See speaking what size pipe we dealing with? We were dealing with 10 in, 12 in, and some 8 in pipe. Okay,

that is our first project. And I have one more for you tonight. My second project for you this evening is the humble lift station. This is CC 1634. Project summary. This involved the abandonment and demolition of an existing sewer lift station and the installation of a new station. The challenge here was this involved concurrent work with the old station in service during the construction. What we what we're seeing is an increase in storage capacity. We've actually increased our storage capacity at this lift station by 50% and increased its sto. We're also utilizing efficient pumps and we have enhanced lift station controls which is part of our SCADA system standing for supervisory control and data acquisition. So our operators will be able to control this station remotely and be able to get the real-time data as it's as it's happening. So the work the work included three 185 gallon per minute pumps. So these are at three horsepower which is a reduction in energy cost that we will we will be seeing. Work also included a installation of a force man which went up to the bridge and will pick up when the bridge is under construction hopefully soon. work also included the curb and gutter work and obviously some paving

project benefits and schedule. This project creates an increased amount of system reliability. We have efficient pumps and equipment. We have a state-of-the-art communication system. That's the SCADA I mentioned earlier. And we have an increased storage capacity. The schedule this this uh project started in August of 2024. It reached substantial completion in July of 2025 and final completion in September of 2025. This project was delivered five weeks early. Here's a financial summary of our project. The approved project budget was approximately 4.2 million. We had two change orders totaling or two change order packages totaling 211,000 almost 212,000 which included uh an increase of paving limits for both concrete and asphalt and it included a pump escalation cost that we uh received due to the tariffs. The contingency was taken out of that um change order contingency was taken out of that contingency for the project leaving us a remaining budget balance of approximately $177,000.

Just go back just to clarify. You guys had the approved uh project budget and then you guys had the contingency budget used all of the contingency budget. So what was left of the approved project budget is that remaining budget balance of 176 80185 right? Yes. Okay. Of the so on the original project with the the ultraviolet lining which is relatively new technology right um you know really really cool technology you don't need to do any trenching I mean you can get a lot more work done. Was that was this the largest of its kind with the ultraviolet lining in the city today

on the on the previous project? Yes. Uh it wasn't the largest of its kind uh in general but for the city for the city it this was this marked the first time that we have used this project in the city that UV so when you and then um just to follow up on Pat's point on the contingency budget. So it's great you guys had surplus on both of these both of these projects and you hit them before the due date. Um uh so congrats on that impressive work. Typically what do you work uh I don't know if this is a child question or for for you Mr. Fit. What do you work into the contingency percentage when you're budgeting the capital improvement projects? I'm sorry. Can you repeat the question you're at?

So there's a kind of a contingency element that always you need in place. There's always going to be change orders etc. Is that like a percentage fix? Yes. It's typically 10 to 15%. 10 to 15. Okay. However, on vertical projects like with a building structure, a roof, community center, those vertical projects, we add significantly more contingencies because you don't know what you're going to find once you poke the walls. Yeah. So, this one I think was 10 to 15%. That's correct. Yes. Great. You had surplus. So, good job.

So, I I actually drove past that project the whole time on my way home and out. And I have to say, I don't know which company you guys used for this project, but by the time it they were gone, you couldn't even tell there was construction there anymore. They were super neat and um they had to block one lane. It was just one lane to come in and out of the island and they were always there just guiding the traffic. We I was a little worried that it was going to create a lot of chaos, but I'm not sure who you guys used for this, but they did a great job. And uh it just seemed like they were just never there. That one day they were there, they were sweeping. The next day we had um grass on the sidewalk. It was paved and it's like they were gone. So that was a good job.

You council Thank you, Councilwoman. Um you could see in the lower left picture, this is a after picture. Um upper right is under construction. Um you could see the stop sign in in both of these pictures here and you you wouldn't know really what happened 20 ft down. So they they really did a good job. Uh in conclusion, we're seeing an improved system reliability. We coordinated with community and various stakeholders. Some of these stakeholders included uh delivery companies um thirdparty utilities such as public utility companies like uh Edison Frontier and other HP departments and divisions. This was delivered on time and under budget like I said approximately five weeks early and it sets a strong model for future sewer projects here in the city of Huntington. Director Vu, would you say this is these reports are the fruits of the transparency for taxpayers initiative that the council brought forward?

Yes. The reason we brought that forward was for this reason to let our residents know that we're, you know, we're inspecting and expecting results from our departments and our departments are delivering and previous to the initiative these things would have been done completed and nobody would really know. We wanted to give the departments the opportunity to to shine and deliver these good results. So that the residents know that we are working hard. We being the city working hard being fiduciary uh fiduciaries with their taxpayers and hopefully on all projects uh before completion date on time under budget. So we love this initiative the transparency for taxpayers. Great presentation and good work and it's great to hear that Gracie saw this and it was like they were there. They're gone. That's what the city wants. I like hearing Andrew uh talk about the the ultraviolet pipes and you said it's state-of-the-art. That shows you guys are on your game. So, good job, Director Vu and company and uh you know, we look forward to a lot more of these presentations. This the city expects it and we enjoy this type of you know, opportunity to praise the department. Good job. Thank you.

All right. Thank you so much. All right. Now, on to the consent calendar items 14 to 21. Council, would anyone like to pull an item? I'll pull 21. Pat 21. I'm pulling 20. Anybody else? Uh Pat's already got 21. All right. I'll move the rest. All right. Second. Second. Uh Kate, do you have to Yeah. Uh clerk? So, a motion by uh Council Member Burn, seconded by Councilwoman Vandermark to move items 14 through 19. Please call the role. Councilman Gr. Yes. Councilman Kennedy.

Yes. Mayor Prom McKan. Yes. Uh here I am. I mean, hello. I'm right here. Still new. Mayor Prom Twiny. I've been ignored before. Yes. Yes. Mayor McKeon. Yes. Councilman Burns. Hi. Councilwoman Vandermark. Yes. Councilman Williams. Yes. All right. Items number 14 through 19 pass 70.

Okay. For number 20, I'm recusing myself from participation in this agenda item because I have a financial conflict of interest in the project as I am employed by the applicant. So, I'll be stepping in the back. Butch, take over. Mayor, real quick, can I just make one comment on an item we voted on 17 for clarity? So, on the the Kobe IPA resolution, we'd already voted to approve that. We amended it with some some additional language, including uh Kobe's beloved mom and sister. We added them to the resolution and we added some language that the IPA family wanted regarding Benipa, the the grandfather. Uh so those are the only changes. Uh so we had to bring it back. We've amended it and it's still the same great uh resolution for Kobe IPAD. So that was that's a little clarity in case anybody's wondering. Okay. Um we've already uh uh discussed this project in our our I'm talking about item number 20 26-001. So tonight uh we're here to discuss it. If anybody has any discussion on this project uh now's the time to bring it up. If not, we can vote on it.

I'll move the item. Second. Second. Okay. Uh, Madame Clerk, can you call the role? Councilman Gr. Yes. Councilman Kennedy, yes. Mayor Prom Twiny, yes. Councilman Burns, hi. Councilwoman Vandermark, yes. Councilman Williams, yes. Item passes 601. McKeon, recused. Yeah, just real Pat. Go ahead. 21. Yeah.

Yeah, there is. There's a staff presentation. Go ahead. So, for 21, I believe there's a PowerPoint presentation that the staff can present just to give a high view of what's going on with the project. So Chad, just real just real quick, is this a staff presentation or a presentation that you generated? This is a staff presentation or no? Okay. Thank you.

Good evening, Mayor McCann and members of the city council. I'm Chris Kasanova. I'm the economic development manager. The item before you tonight is a request to accept a completion bond for building pro improvements located at 21 and 22 Main Street on the Huntington Beach Pier. The completion bond is required under the executed lease between the city and Surf City Partners LLC prior to the issuance of any building permits. The proposed improvements include construction of a new restaurant, as you can see here, renovation of our existing bathrooms on the pier, a bait and tackle shop, and a storage area. The completion bond is in the amount of $1.3 million, which represents 100% of the estimated construction costs. The bonds guarantees that completion of the required improvements and protects the city in the event that the project is not completed as approved. Uh so construction is anticipated to begin later this month. Public access to the pier will be maintained throughout construction. The lassi will be required to obtain all necessary permits and comply with the approved coastal development permit. Council approval of the completion bond is required prior to any permits being issued. Uh the completion bond has been reviewed and approved by the city attorney's office and creates no fiscal impact to the city. Staff recommends that the city council accept the completion bond and authorize the city uh engineer to administer it. Thank you. Uh staff is available for any questions and I think the leie Keith Bor is here as well. I've got um this project's been kind of stumbling along and I'm concerned in the completion bond itself. There is no like timeline and am it's the timeline the life of

this bond is basically the constraints we put in on the construction permitting right. They have to have he has to have it built within a certain amount of time, right? We've already granted some extensions per se on this project. The construction project though and the I don't see any deadline for this thing to take effect this uh completion bond. And that's my one of my main and I'm it just the whole project's kind of shaky on me and it it surprises the hell out of me because all the eyes that have been on this the completion bond on page one of two of the completion bond if you look at it I don't know if we have it but the fifth line up from the bottom paragraph on page two one of do. It's something as simple as this where it says the line starts with bond period and then it says there under and it's probably doesn't change the meaning of the content of it. It's the just the detail that kind of kills me sometimes. capital.

It should be capitalized or a a comma after bond, but it looks like it should be there under should be capitalized. Do you see that? I don't. And we can make that change if there's a typo in the document. That's not a problem. Oh, yeah. It just with all the eyes that have been on that. And I'm just wondering if there's supposed to be some kind of deadline or something and I want it clarified on the record, is there some kind of deadline on the life of this bond?

How long do they have to build this thing where this thing stays effective and we don't it doesn't get boarded up in like after three months and then two years down the line it's being built again? So the life of the bond is until we issue a notice of completion. So until we ultimately approve the work that um you know Surf City Partners has guaranteed us to complete. In terms of the construction schedule, we have been provided an updated schedule and um the lease says that through both written agreement, joint parties can amend that construction schedule um which would take us through the end of summer for the opening is the proposed opening. So that is the new target date that we're looking at

the end of this summer 26. All right. I'll be watching. Have we been presented that agreement as a council that you said it was updated or the lease was changed? The um a lease allows for an updated construction schedule per uh for the joint uh parties. Uh so whether that is uh at city manager uh level or and do you know and maybe this would be a a city manager question. Is that an indefinite amount of time that it could be extended to or is the discretion limited to three months?

So, so with the actual construction schedule, it's whatever we ultimately agree to. The rent abatement is is only three months per city manager.

You know, if I may ask a few questions. So, today um got to ask these questions. Listen, these are this is something I'm very interested in. Anything that has to do with city properties, leases, u flows, expectations, things like that. So, I took a look at the initial agreement again, um because as everybody said, including Pat, you know, this has seemingly gone on for a long period of time. So, I think the lease I I wish I had able to pull up the uh the lease right now. I can't pull up the download, but um but so I looked at the the default language and that is on page I think it's page 23. I I had Chad pull two slides, but section F of the default B there's also a construction table uh in exhibit D that shows that all this work that has not even started should have been done by the end of 2025. Now there is language in uh section F of the default uh

we could pull that up. Uh it should be slide number 12 for uh staff. Just real quick in the back. Yeah. I just want to set the precedent here. So are you putting up a presentation that you've created notes. So just uh couple notes real quick. Real quick. So this this happened on December 16th. So it's it's dangerous when you put up something that has not been agendaized to the public. Do you understand that? This is all gerine to the agenda. Do you understand though? But it's not been agendaized. On the agenda is the completion bonds. 100% understand that this is all germaine. It's all part of the same project. But do you understand that? Like you your presentation speaks for the council and it has not been agendaized. We're talking about the completion bonds for this this for this project. So I believe parliamentary

where where do we know anything about completion bonds? It's from the city attorney. Can you help me with this? Yeah, I No, I agree. No, if Go ahead. The only way we know that we're supposed to have a construction bond is because the lease says we're supposed to have a construction bond. What I'm going to present and what's on the slides is that very lease. So, this is totally germanine to the agenda item. The lease the lease itself does contain the requirement that a bond be on uh presented to the city council for approval. And if that's what we're talking about, if we're talking about the bond, that's fine. Okay. We're not here to discuss the contract and changing the contract or anything else. That has not been agendaized. Correct. Okay. Then I guess I just don't want to get us in trouble, right? Because you're not

Well, understood. Yeah. Um, but when you're talking about I I guess what I would say is if my question was answered I is is is there a default that's been triggered because the timetable in exhibit D has not been met. Why as a uh landlord, so to speak, would I want to issue a completion bond if I have something that quote unquote possibly could be in default? Well, and I think that if I was going to say the completion bond assures that if the project is in default, we call the bond and then we end up using that money to build the project.

Okay. So, if we can So, I mean, it's a yes or no at this point. There's a timetable in exhibit D that shows plastering this, this, and this, this, and this, this, and this. And the date of completion for everything was December of 2025. To my knowledge, there's no work that's been started. So, by virtue of the document in exhibit D, I would have to say there's a level of default. Is that not a fair statement? I'm asking the city attorney, city manager. I'm just saying for the benefit of the public, why don't we pull up slide number 13 so that they can see this with their own eyes? We're allowed to. I mean, I don't want to get anybody in trouble, but I can't. It hasn't been agendaized. I mean, I understand. Okay.

But, Don, I asked a question. I think Vick, you can answer that question, right? I can answer. Could you could you repeat the question? Point point of order. Point of order. Sure. And so city attorney had said if this has to do with the agreement which lays out the construction bond, then it's okay to present as long as I don't want to get us in trouble. Right. Yeah. If it's related to the if it's related to the issuance of the bond, then we can we can talk about it. But again, tonight we're not here to discuss the efficacy of the contract that was executed. Well, we should determine the validity of it. Maybe not the efficacy, but if if if a contract is in default by virtue of the contract, should we not say yes or no to that based on one cont uh one slide that shows completion?

Let's get slide number let the public see it. Yeah, you can put the slide up. I don't want to conflate the issues again tonight. The only thing that we're here to determine is whether or not that completion bond, the terms of that completion bond are acceptable to the city council. Perfect. So, and again the the idea behind the completion bond is if the work is not completed and there is default under the contract, we call the bond and we end up having to use that money to complete the

Okay. Well, the work's not completed. Let's look at one slide. Either way, I guess if we can't uh make a determination based on because we're not talking about whether or not it's in default, I would either make a motion or second a motion, then I'm not willing to vote on uh approving a completion bond if I think that potentially there's a default in place right now. Well, and and if I could just if I could just get to that point that they can't proceed with work until they get the bond. So, we're if we delay issuing the bond, it's going to set them back in their in the process. I just want to point of order. Okay, let's get that slide up. Let's get the slide up so everyone can see. Slide number 12.

Hey, Chad. Chad. Chad, you and I have been out there. I know you and I both went out there last week. You you've seen the the construction schedule and Don was talking about plaster here and paint there. Is some of that work done? I was out there, too. Right here. Just tell me. Hang on just for second. Okay. Sorry, Butch. Sorry. Is some of that work done that's on this schedule that's showed up there right now? Is some of that work done?

I personally haven't seen any of that work done. In fact, that would it's not permitted to be done. That's he needs the completion bond before he can even get started. So, if that's your point, then it was done without a permit. So, that's the construction schedule. If you go back one slide, you can see uh this section 37 on default that Councilman Kennedy was speaking about. So the fif the 15 I guess we're not contemplating the contract but the bottom line is based on the language in the contract in that other graphic if you can go back to that other graphic and and this is not to be unbus friendly this is just all about how we're going to manage our leases what we're going to hold our tenants accountable for and what we're going to do as a city and not set uh you know a pref you know a u a precedent that um yeah deadlines are kind of here for whatever they may be, whatever. You know,

that's a very a very good point. Believe me, I your points are well taken. Again, I'm just I want to point out to the council though that tonight the only thing that we're here to discuss is whether or not the bond the performance bond or what are we calling it? Completion. Completion bond. Thank you. Um is acceptable to the city council. If there's issues about default, we can certainly look into that issue and bring it back. That's that's a separate issue. Viglet. Yeah, that's what I was going to clarify. This tonight is just seeing if we'll do that. The default we'd have to deal with in another a uh source or avenue or not. Correct.

Okay. And all I would like to suggest just at this moment is that we might be executing a term on a contract that might be in default. it it so I mean we've gone into uncharted territories and and I I can share kind of where I'm at if if you're done with Again I just I I don't want to conflate those two issues tonight. The the the execution of the completion bond has nothing to do with the default. You can execute the completion bond. It doesn't wave our ability to claim default. As a matter of fact, it protects the city because in the event of a default, one of the remedies that we'll have is to call the completion bond, which is money to the city.

Okay. So, Councilman Kenny, are you finished? Yeah, go ahead for now. I'm just think I'm just thinking through what you're saying there. I mean, you're rewarding bad behavior basically. I if if it's not done, let's call the bond now. Well, we don't have a bond. There is no bond. Vote it in and then call it. We don't Yeah, we don't have a bond yet. We would have to explore whether or not there is in fact default based on again that's the danger in bringing up issues that are not on the agenda because we haven't explored we haven't looked at it we haven't adequately analyzed whether there's a default and what happens if there is and those kind of issues are not before the council it's not before the public it wasn't on the agenda. Okay. All right. Well

uh and and maybe that would be a good reason to possibly table it. So, if I could get slide number one at the top just to kind of give a little bit of a history of how did we get here because this has gone this has passed through multiple uh councils. And so, back in April of 2019, as you see on that first slide, that's when the RFP first went out. It used to be Let's Go Fishing. In May of 24, 2021, the city released the uh RFQ and the respondents that we received were Let's Go Fishing, Ruby's Hospitality, and Surf City Partners. Go to the next slide. Now at the time so Chad so so one slide is not turned into a presentation that's not been agendaized. These are my notes. I'm trying I don't know why you I'm just trying to understand

this is for the benefit of the public the city attorney has told you multiple times that what's on the agenda is a completion bond. He's told you multiple times. You promised one slide. Council member Kenny talked about one slide and you're getting us into dangerous territories by putting up putting up a presentation that wasn't on the agenda. And I agree. In the event there is a default and we end up in litigation over this, we are creating an administrative record. No one's looked at this stuff. Councilman Williams, why don't you make a motion to um you know delay a vote? I'll second it. Uh and then uh and and make a motion along with that for a lease review. Are we allowed to do that? Well, I I to determine default or

I just caution you that again, they can't start work. They can't do anything until the bond is is approved. The bond does not the bond protects the city. It does nothing to benefit them. It really helps the city. And again, in the event we do determine there's a default, we now have an additional tool in our tool belt to um to to use uh to pay for the construction of the of the project in the event we choose to use that remedy. So again, I you you guys vote how you will, but having that bond in place does nothing but protect the city. Uh, I just have a question. Are we tacitly approving of the terms of the contract? If there is, let's just suppose for a moment again, can I just get it out?

I do, but I want to I want to stop you just to to caution you again. We're we're getting into legal arguments that we may have to make in the future. So, I I I want to be careful about what we say and what we do now to avoid problems in the future in the event there is litigation over this issue. Okay. So, I mean, the remarks that I want to make are based off of the contract. The contract is what lays the groundwork for this construction bond that we're talking about. It is gerine to the conversation. I would like to present what I just the notes. I've collected on this. I've done the research. That's it. And so back to where we're at.

Real quick, point of order. So after everything that's just been said, that our city attorney told you exactly, please don't do this. You're still going to do it. I didn't hear him say, "Please don't do this." And I was not given any assurance that if it is discovered well I Chad I don't know what's if I could just finish that thought if I don't have any assurance that we can go back and go over this agreement if there are issues with it if we go ahead and greenlight this performance bond tonight then I think it's very important to present these issues and

and I will say this you by approving the performance bond you do not jeopardize the city going back and and potentially calling default on the contract at all. All it does is protect the city in the event you do make that determination. So, the city attorney just gave you the answer you're looking for. Okay. All right. Then, can I can I make a Would it be a I got you? Go ahead and make a

Okay. So, I respectfully move a substitute motion to table this item for 30 days and direct the city manager to provide a project alignment report. the purpose of reconcil with the per purpose of reconciling the current status of the project within the provisions of the agreement to ensure partnership remains in good standing.

I second that. If you guys want some rationale on that, this will allow the city just to simply verify that our current trajectory is consistent with the agreement, which includes that construction bond. Uh, and we're moving forward with a clear understanding of all available options. We need Go ahead. Yeah, go ahead. Well,

I I know you met with with Keith last week. I met with Keith last I think you did. I met with Keith last week. You didn't. You were sick. And I asked him, I go, "Knowing all this stuff that you've said, I know this thing is drugged out forever and ever and ever. I think Keith was an ex mayor. I think Keith was an ex city councilman sitting up here. I don't understand. I think we're going into that area where we're not talking about the bond."

Hang on one minute. I asked him when he's going to start. He goes, "It depends on how you guys vote on Tuesday night." I'm voting I will vote to approve the the uh completion bond because I want Keith to get going on this project so he can open up by the end of summer hopefully. Uh by delaying it 30 days now we're looking at maybe getting it open at the end of July or August. I say let's get going. He's ready to go. He told me that last week and he's standing right there. I don't want to stop him. He's a he's a respected member of this community and we're sitting here holding him up because of it. Okay. I don't like that it took this long to to get to this point. I'm sure you don't like that it took this long to get to this point. But we sit up here and we hold all the all the cards for him to get started because I asked him. I said, "When are you going to start?" He goes, "It depends on how you guys vote. Tuesday night." I'm going to guess tomorrow, Wednesday, if we approve this, he's going to get going. So, I will be voting to support it. And with all due respect, Councilman Twining, uh I read the contract and in the contract, the construction was not expected to commence by now. The construction was expected to be completed by now. And this this uh construction bond is literally step one to getting city approval on permits. I asked the city manager, was there any reason why he could not have applied for this construction bond in the beginning of the process? The answer is no. He's received 15 months of rent abatement. Rentree been there. This project has been tied up since 2021. And the only revenue that our city has received since 2021 is about $6,500. This locks in a 50year agreement. We'll all be dead by the time this comes up again. It's a once in a-lifetime uh generational contract. So, I'm just suggesting, hey, pump the brakes. Let's just table this so we could take a look

because we have some terms that are locked in right now with this construction bond. If we give them the green light to move forward, that could really get us into some uncharted territory right now. There's a construction plan that's not even in our contract. It's it's completely expired. There's issues that need to be cured with this contract. They can't be cured the way that they are. So, we need to table this so that we could get it fixed. This council is going to determine whether he's in default or not. Technically, in writing, you can say he is, but we're the going to be the final arbittors of this. And he's standing right there. Ask him questions. Let's let's find out what his plan is. He's standing right there. I don't think we're allowed to.

I think we we have to to the extent you folk you want to talk about the performance bond. the performance bond is the trigger for him to get started to get permits on the project. If you delay it, he's going to be delayed more. That's that's the threshold. But hit the nail right on that. Now, again, I'm not I'm not trying to advocate one way or the other, but not approving the performance bond adds delay to the project, 30 days, whatever it may be, for him to um to get his permits. So,

so again, my motion because this project has been it's been tied up since November 2021. So, we're not the ones getting in the way here. My motion is to uh go ahead and table this respectfully. As I stated before, we had a second, so it's time to call the vote. Call the vote.

I mean, we can even table it for two weeks to keep it expedited. I think it'd be prudent to table it so that we can go offline with the tenant. Nobody's trying to keep Mr. Boore from opening his business. We're trying to make sure that there's a level of accountability that nobody else has happened to to look at. So, if we table this for two weeks and have the ability offline to meet with the uh the tenant uh and make sure, as Chad used the term, everybody's aligned because we're not aligned right now. And if you think we are, then you're in the wrong business because we aren't. And uh so two weeks is not going to create any harm. He's 15 months behind schedule as it is. So, you know, tableabling for if you want to amend your motion for tableabling for two weeks, give us the opportunity to meet with him, discuss things, and uh nail down real timelines, then we can move forward.

And I would have the opportunity to present to you all. We can make a council. I can present to you all the findings that I had just to be sure that it's all germanine to the conversation. It's simply knowledge. People perish for lack of knowledge. I just want to share facts with you all so you could draw conclusions rather than be suppressed. Just got to agendaize it. That's all. Well, I I I look forward to talking to you and and sharing the facts, but I want to I want to get Keith moving. So, uh I want to approve the I will vote to approve the the bond. So, we have the motion. It's seconded, right? Can we call it? Can we call? Can we But just had a question. Does it it doesn't change anything if we pass this tonight as far as moving forward with

I asked the city attorney that question and he he neglected he he can't I will answer that question it answered it three times. No the performance bond approving the performance bond completion bond or I'm sorry completion bond tonight does not affect uh if Mr. board is or is not in default on the and it does it doesn't limit our ability in the future to enforce said default if it exists nothing. Correct. Nothing other than it protects the city by giving us a bond.

That's where I'm just going to say according to the agreement he was supposed to have this construction bond in place before he got permits and he had 15 months of abatement rentree to get the construction done. The construction should have been completed by now at 21 Main Street and 22. We should already have a full-ervice restaurant and we should have updated bathrooms and storage. Right now, we have nothing because we haven't even crossed the first step of the financials. And so, we need to table this because there are issues in this agreement at this point. We've gone past so many deadlines in this agreement. It needs to be cured. So, I just suggest pump the brakes, guys. Pump the brakes. Why would we be in a hurry to approve him to get building something if the contract doesn't allow him to be building there?

Let me ask Keith, why did it take so long to get the completion bond? Um there's lots of blame to go around. Three divisions of the state, Orange County Health and uh various departments within this city. Um I'm not here to play the blame game, but it's more blame out there than on us. probably 9010. Okay. City manager, was there any reason why he couldn't apply for this construction bond uh as soon as the contract was executed 15 months ago? Postal commission approved. May I comment on that?

It says to have to have the bomb before you pull permits. Staff just told us, I don't know, six weeks ago they learned it had to come to council first. So, we got that on the agenda. Now, we're ready to pull permits. We hope. I know Jennifer Travis, uh, Chief Parr's green team have been working with us, working with everybody the last five, six weeks. We are two days, three days from pulling our demo permit. We're ready to go. If you put this off for 30 days, it just makes it go on further. No one's wanted this to go faster than us. There's no upside for us to stall it. We're into this for a half a million bucks out of our pocket and it's carrying cost. We wish we were open last summer. There's no games going on here. Let us go. We're finally here.

So, we had a lease agreement that was signed October 1st, 2024. Yes. From that point forward, in order to get permits, the step before permits is to get this construction bond. And so, it's been over a year before this has even been brought before us. And just to say that, you know, you didn't know and nobody told you and finally staff got around to telling you just a matter of weeks ago. I mean, that doesn't hold up. The bond is the easiest part. We It It was not needed yet until we're ready to pull permits. So, that's why we didn't do it. It wasn't like it there's no reason not to do it. This is now Oh, by the way, it has to go to council. Oh, okay. Let's get that on the agenda.

Hey, Keith, did you have to get architecturals? Did you have to get structurals? Did you have to get plumbing, electrical, mechanical? Did you have to apply for all did you have to get those design drawings and submit them to the city and and the committee goes through them? You don't just get the sign the contract and then hey uh uh perform or uh uh completion bond. You don't get a completion bond before you get before you get the drawings done before you get the design done before you get electric permit electrical permits plumbing permits uh HVAC everything. So it you that's a long time that that takes I right

the answer is yes sir we're on probably the fifth sixth round of building plan check when you mentioned structural our structural engineering cost us 40 grand when we submitted that December of 24 I'm sorry uh November of 24 we got a plan check back on December of 24 that said hey we're not sure what building code we want you to use you're on a pier it's not a regular building we're going to meet with Moffett nickel who's the engineer of record for the pier and our building engineer and the community development medi and we want to figure this out. It took them five months to decide on what to base our structural plan on and then they approved our structural engineers plans which they had that previous December. So there's five months right there in your whole gap.

And just to clarify what Butch just said, you you haven't pulled any permits because you're waiting for this. Well, we're waiting for there. There was there's a checklist of I don't know pulled. You can't pull them until you have this. So, you have everything.

Well, again, because I'm in this business, you have to get your plans approved, right, to get ready to then issue permits, which is the stage that they're in. And then before they can issue a permit, they have to get a completion bond, which completion bond protects the city. So, it's all sequential. So the fact that you could have pulled it earlier, sure, but to Butch's point, you don't pull completion bonds to the very end when all your plans have been done, you've been through all the different departments, gone through all the different rounds of plan check, structural engineering, design, architectural, civil, all those things. Go through, you know, these plans are now approved. You're ready to pull your permit. It's the last thing that you the last step. Yeah.

Okay. So, just to be clear, because I have a timeline in front of me, July 14th, 2022, design uh review board conditionally approved the project. And then moving down to the next date, uh, November 19th, 2024. Uh, so this is over a year ago. Project plans submitted. So, uh, it's already gone through design review board. The plans have been, uh, submitted and, uh, that was about a month after the lease was executed. In order to get permits from that point forward, the prerequisite is to get this construction bond. That's the next step. But we've sat on it for over a year now. R abatement was provided for 15 months. Why? So that the construction could get done. It's not done. We should have a completed restaurant and restrooms by now.

I wish we did. The bond has nothing to do with that timing though. It's the prerequisite to get a permit. It'll hold us up if you don't approve it tonight, but it did not hold us up in that other process. I can go through each here and show you five months here and four months there. I don't think that's a constructive way to do that. And again, that's not and none of the, you know, we're getting way down the road of this not being on the agenda.

Like, yeah, I mean, I I just just to make sure we understand when when you submit plans, they're not approved in like 30 days when you submit them, it goes through several rounds of plan check. So, when a an applicant or a developer submits a project, this the city goes, "Hey, I need your civil plan, your your engineering plan, your structural plan." And then you submit it and then they provide comments and then it goes back to the applicant and they address those comments and then they resubmit and it goes back with more comments. You address those comments and it goes round after round after round hopefully less rounds. Right. Then you get to a point where you're finally approved. You had to go through coastal commission too, right? Yes. So coastal commission had the extra sure

all that on this and they wanted the conditions of approval of your permits and then you had to take the lease to the state lands because as most people probably don't know that aren't in this room that you own the pier but you lease the dirt and sand and water underneath it. So we're a sub lease of your lease to the so you had to take that to the state. They approved that on February 25th. You guys then approved it on April 25th and then the conditional use. Then that had to be recorded. That took another three months, three to four months. What year? You said February 5th.

That was last year. 25. And that had to be recorded before the conditional coastal development permits actually literally issued. So that was not issued till July 31st. So until we had all that, we could never pull permits even if you were ready to give them to us. What was issued July 31st? Working never stopped. It's been constant moving forward. What was issued July 30 31st in what year? Postal development permit was issued. Now it was approved by the commission November 16th of 23, but all the conditions to meet that were upon it, it wasn't issued to July 31st.

So he had coastal commission approvals in November of 2023. He is already through the coastal commission. He did move on to CDP, but this was all prior to the lease even being executed. He had these things in order, guys. So, these weren't the things holding him up from getting this construction bond. One of the conditions of approval was to have a lease and to have that lease recorded by the state. There's there's so many things. The lease was executed October 2024. This is over a year ago, right?

The simple question is when is a contract to contract? Nobody's here to hold back Mr. Board. The bottom line is all these things. I'm surprised, Casey, as a landlord and an owner, when you're signing your tenant, both tenant and landlord understand the the potential pitfalls. So, before I sign, when I sign a lease, do I go, well, I'm going to sign it, but because I can change it later. It doesn't matter what it says. It says in writing there's contractual language that says exhibit D, you're done here. If you read F on the default, it'll tell you the only way he can get an extension when he's in default is if he's uh it's by you, the manager, uh not to be a 30-day notice in writing, not to be withheld, and then it has to be approved by the city council. That's what it says in section F on the default language. The bottom line is nobody wants to hold them back. My point is, when is a contract a contract? When are we as a city gonna sit there and go,

"You're good. You're in default. Don't worry." Hey, your code enforcement fines from three years ago. Ah, forget about them. No, that's why we're 500 grand in the red on the code enforcement fines. And I I know, Mr. Viglotto, the bottom line is I can't vote on this today because it's bad behavior by the city. Make your motion, Chad. And Motion's been made. It's been seconded. Can we call the vote, please? Yeah, go for it. [snorts] Go ahead. Substitute motion made by Councilman Williams. Oh, somebody fell. Hold on. He's on the ground. I don't know. Was it Zack?

Who is that? Zack. Zack. Zack. What? water in the meantime. Pour some water or something. I've been nursing for 20 years.

A little water or something. Come ride with the winds that bring you gladness and see if you can see a place that's free for you and me. On and on [singing] and [music] on to the long. Find your way every day. You can make it if you find something to see. You'll see how the stars can lead you far away. They're wondering do roll and ship sailing on the seas on and on [music and singing] and on the marched along just what every it you weeks to reconvene.

Let's reconvene. [snorts] We have to reconvene. Okay. Now, reconvene the Okay. City council public. Just to just to clarify. Yeah. And uh yeah, so this is a motion um not a substitute motion, just for administrative purposes to be clear. It's a motion uh to table this item for we'll say two weeks and direct the city manager to provide a project alignment report with the purpose of reconciling the current status of the project within the provisions of the agreement to ensure the partnership remains in good standing. That's the motion. We had the second. Call the question, please. Councilman Grill. Yes. Councilman Kennedy.

A yes vote is to delay for the the two weeks. Correct. Yes. Mayor Prom Twiny. No. Mayor McKan, no. May Councilman Burns, no. Councilwoman Vandermark, no. Councilman Williams, yes. Item passes. 43. No. The motion fa The motion fails. Fails. Motion fails. 43. I'd like to make the motion to as recommended. Second. One second. Okay.

Councilman Gro. No. Councilman Kennedy. No. Yes. Mayor McKeon? Yes. Mayor Councilman Burns? Yes. Councilwoman Vandermark? Yes. Councilman Williams? No. Original item passes 4 three as amended. No supplemental communication.

Okay. Thank you. All right. Uh final item uh number 22 submitted by council member Burns and myself. Naming a patriot place at Civic Center. Pat, do you want to go for it? Yeah, we have a an area right behind the right adjacent to the civic center, right behind the 911 memorial. It has the desert storm plaque and dedication on it. It's a beautiful sloped grass area and uh really it's unnamed. So, uh, because it's got the memorial right there, 911 and it's got the Desert Storm and possibly others in the future, plaques, uh, patriotic based focus flags or plaques rather. uh like to re well name that portion of the civic center. Patriot Plaza at Civic Center.

Patriot Place, I'm sorry. Patriot Place at the Civic Center. No, obviously it makes a lot of sense. Pat touched on it. And then we also have the war memorial on top of the stairs by city hall. So, um excited to bring this forward. And make a motion, Pat. Yeah. Yeah. Motion to move it. Second. Second. Oh, who moved? Casey. Yeah. Okay. Gracie can second it. Thank. All right. Please call the question. Councilman Gr. Yes. Councilman Kennedy. Yes. Mayor Prom Twining. Yes. Mayor McKon. Yes. Councilman Burns. Hi. Councilwoman Vandermark. Yes. Councilman Williams. Yes. Item passes 70.

All right. Now we have uh the last portion of the meeting, public comments for non-aggendaized items. Uh, madam clerk, we have anyone signed up to speak? We do. We have seven speakers. Please call them down.

The city council will now receive public comments for non-aggendaized items only. When your name is called, please approach. Use both podiums. State your name and organization for the record. Tim Gettis, Ken Inaway, Chris Reneie, Roger No, Ryan Owens, Noah Rhodess, Dinora. fire away Tim. Uh good evening Tim Gettis again. uh for over uh we have three hours three hours most of them been waiting and that's on top of the two plus hours last meeting and uh I think that it is um

you know it should be uh uh you know we shouldn't have to wait just because our concerns are unagendized you know shouldn't mean we're at the back of the bus. uh something really needs to be done on that because you're cutting down the the uh the people that are going to or that want to speak an agendaized. Now we're finally well we're finally getting our first council meeting of 2026 and in this election year it's time for voters to start thinking about the kind of leadership they want going forward. Do they want problem value problem solving, experience, transparency, financial accountability, addressing community needs, focusing on on local priorities over ideological pursuits, and representation for all constituents in the city. If they do, they should not vote for any of the council incumbents. They have not they have not addressed they have addressed little of these values and have insulted the community with their oppressive mega leadership. You know we need qualified we need qualified honest and trustworthy leadership like the kind Taran Palumbo and Ben Davis can give us. We we need candidates who can give us financial experience, accounting, and financial qualifications like Kenoway has exhibited. Above all, we need champions who can protect our precious community assets like our library system. We should not settle for any candidates who fall short of the kind of leadership our city needs. We do not want to be called the city of losers anymore. We need winners. Thank you. Oh, and by the way, I probably won't be able to I may not be able to attend the uh next council meeting on February 3rd because it's my

son's birthday, but I'll try and share my views in some way. Thank you. Happy birthday to your son, Tim. Next speaker, please.

Good evening. My name is Kenny Noway. I'd like to uh make my public comments in honor of my neighbor and friend, the late Colonel Ted Ross. Ted was a man who loved his family in Huntington Beach and he was willing to reach out across party lines to discuss issues that we thought that the city faced. I will miss Ted and his wisdom, but I will try to continue the mission. At the last city council meeting, one of the city council people said they were so proud of the fact that they've kept their contract with the people of Huntington Beach with regard to the housing mandate. To remind us all, the housing mandate had this this contract consisted of two parts. The first part stated that since Huntington Beach is a charter city, we are not required to file the housing mandate. I know we discussed this and the battlecry was let's go to court we will win. The second part of this contract was the fact that since we have a city attorney's office our fight against the state against the housing mandate will not cost the city any money. Well, let's look what's happened in the intervening three years. We have lost every court case at the state and federal level. At this point in time, our only recourse is hopefully that the US Supreme Court will hear our case and reverse all the lower court decisions. That's a fact. With respect to cost, we've incurred three and a half millions of costs and perhaps millions of dollars more. I would respectfully request that the city council keep track of all of the costs that this fight against the state

of California has cost us so that people will actually know the true cost of this contract with the people. I would like to commend the city council for the fact that they have come up with new revenue sources, but I would suggest at the same time, and we've discussed it too, the failure not to file a housing element could cost us $7 million a year and completely wipe out all those new new revenue sources that you discussed today. Thank you. Next speaker, please. [clears throat]

Chris Reinie native. So, we're still considering moving the Huntington Beach International Surfing Museum from Olive and Fifth to the Main Street Library on the primary grounds that library space is underutilized and the museum needs more room to display surfboards. This is a bad idea for several reasons. First off, Johnson Favaro, the architects designing the library master plan, think it's a poor match. They have done amazing designs. They look at the details. They look at the hard data and they actually come up with solutions that work. If they think it's bad, that gives one pause. Second, the surfing museum hasn't clearly stated their needs. They haven't said the dimensions of the surfboards that are too big to display. We need to know the linear footage of the PT collection. Speaking from experience as an archavist, your archival holdings will expand to fit all space available. Having minimums is important. It's a lot like your garage. The more you put in, the more room you find, and no matter how much room you have, you always run out. This is completely ignoring other issues like foot traffic, fire codes, and ADA compliance. Third, location. There used to be five surfing museums in California, one closed in 2017, leaving four. Santa Cruz, Huntington Beach, San Clemente, which is closed because it's relocating to Laguna Beach, and Oceanside. Santa Cruz is literally on the water. The San Clemente moving to Laguna location is on Broadway and it is four buildings from the corner of PCH. You can see the water from there. Oceanside is across the street from public parking and you can see the water. The Olive location in Huntington Beach is in the heart of downtown has its own parking lot showcasing the largest surfboard in the world. You can see the ocean from there. Public parking is across the street. You can't see the ocean from the main street library. And we all know the parking situation in that neighborhood. Also, by the time you get to the library

from Olive, you've gone from a thriving downtown to a quiet neighborhood. In every way, it's just a location step down. Lastly, finances. Now, we all know that finances are important to Huntington Beach. Museums do not make money. Many museums close because they either run through their endowment, the primary donor dies, or the founder just retires. If the city starts a partnership with the surfing museum, what happens to the collection if and when the museum closes? Who is left holding the bag? And who's going to market the PT collection for visiting researchers? This isn't Field of Dreams where if you build it, they will come. This requires marketing to communities outside of the tourist and action sports people to whom we cater. We need to think outside of the box. And from what I've seen of the city in the last two years, I don't think we can do it. Thank you.

Thank you. Next speaker, please. Good evening, city council. My name is Noah Rhodess. I'm a longtime resident of Huntington Beach. Uh public speaking isn't usually the way I present issues to the city council. Typically, I do it through emails. I used to do it through Facebook, but I found the user experience on Facebook to be very poor. The issue I wanted to bring up today was traffic safety on Beach Boulevard. I've noticed there is a lot of speeding drivers and it has became very dangerous. There has been an article by Michelle Guile through CBS News that explain the dangers of Beach Boulevard in Huntington Beach city limits and I would like to take this time to bring attention to this issue and hopefully get solutions for it in the future. Um, it is important to me not only because I commute through Beach Boulevard almost daily, but I have been hit on Beach Boulevard today by a driver making a right turn at Beach and Adams. Uh, I'd like to request more traffic enforcement along Beach Boulevard. hopefully reduce the speeding drivers and simpler speed limits because I believe that having the speed limit go from 50 mph to 45 miles hour to 40 miles hour to 45 miles hour back to 50 miles hour is confusing

and I don't know if the city has jurisdiction over that. Maybe Calrans will see this speech and do something about it and that is all. Thank you. No, thank you. and we understand that it is CALR's jurisdiction and we are having discussions with them. So, thank you for pointing that out. Next speaker, please.

Thank you, uh, Mayor McKon and council. Uh, I just, um, had a couple of thoughts about the strategic plan that was presented. Uh, and perhaps it could be clarified for some of us who might be new to it. Oops. Um, that, um, comparative data is good. um as far from year to year or trends would be important information to include where possible. And then um what does the percentage of completion mean? And uh is it just each item within the strategic plan is given equal value whereas some will take longer and cost more. Uh that kind of thing that um would be helpful to quantify somehow. Sure.

And then also that um the ones that are on hold or have been eliminated, what are they and why? I know it gets into a little bit more detail, but that might be helpful to um present the information. Um the housing um goal and homeless there um seemed to be some information that could also be provided. Um, I think back to trends and um, accomplishments that definitely on the um, unhoused section of the report would be helpful. Um, and then housing section, there's nothing in there that talks about how many units have been already built or built during the period presented. And that would be helpful to know because certainly new housing or u housing is an economic driver for the city. Um, so that would be helpful. And then also in that realm, what is your plan to bring in new housing into the city? Um, and then the other thing was the Landify um,ou. Um, it seems like the city has an RFP process for contracts over a certain dollar amount and that this would be a ripe area to provide RFP. an RFP. Um it it sounds like it's um maybe something too good to be true, but uh where they do have a track record certainly to check out those other cities, what their experience has been working with them, that kind of thing. It just sounds like it might limit the city as far as what they could do in the future. And I think that's it for now. Thank you.

Thank you. Okay.

Good afternoon. Uh just a little bit second for the gentlemen they pass away at their nursing for 20 years when we used to wear white nurse mate shoes. The first thing anything like that happened, God forbid they don't get callless, put it in the forehead and call 911 and that because sometime people panic by time the paramedic get here. God forbid a tragedy can happen. Always put cold compl. I have doctors in Cuba in Miami. the nursing uh government, local government, and then I finished driving for Kim Pedton, the military. Now, on my information with the housing issue, I came around in 2021 when uh Gracie needed to be a city mayor. When she realized that I was from Cuba, she asked me for my vote. I need your Cuban board. when you saw history and I have it here including my green card with my alien number my US citizen not everybody do drugs drink and smoke uh case uh Gracie basically is government that let me down and when I say Mexico we love Mexico because I have two sister married to great Mexican from the 70s they were not running economic developer they were not running housing and their respect every necessity. We have a problem because I have law enforcement and my family. They want to step in and see what the heck is happening in Huntington Beach, including our attorneys. I'm trying to put everybody at ease. Coast land. I need somebody before Valentine to call me with that key because got to get Jan and B the Vietnamese that took over Andrew Do corruption. He's imprisoned.

And also she knows who I am because I shar Santa Anna say she better get to know you because federal government who brought me here and I have those credential. I'm a US citizen. So for uh Gracie, you got my vote. You need to make sure that I get a key for co my 40 plus year that I work and pay taxes. And then I was told that uh Travis was last year uh active city manager. He was the executive housing authority of Huntington Beach. He be he became an active city manager last year and I know you from way 2021. So I need assistant as soon as possible. So I don't got to get anybody involved. coast land because there's young people moving in there including even senior older than I am and I'm not as old as I am because federal knows it. Castro gave me the date of birth to create confusion but the US government as smart as they are they brought me and if anybody want to see

thank you next speaker please.

Good evening Huntington Beach. My name is Ryan Owens and I'm a four-year resident here. And three of those four years I've spent living in a van carrying out my childhood dream of being a handyman. In those four years, I've grown to really love HB and all it has to offer. However, last Monday, the 12th of January, that van got towed for not being able to pass smog because of LA lapsed registration. The engine has ejected spark plugs, taking the threads with them, requiring a drill and tap repair. In short, my repairs left the plug positions just shy of perfect, causing the check engine to come on, even though the car ran great. This week, as I enjoyed the beautiful SoCal weather laying underneath the stars, I couldn't help but to question the validity of California's smog process. If our air is as important as my situation says it is, then why are pre75 gers and pre89 diesels allowed? Considering most of these cars are collectors or on their way to being collector cars, why are so many Montana, Arizona, and other out of state plates on California roads? Weren't lawnmowers supposed to be illegal now that the major manufacturers have electric alternatives? Didn't Newsome receive 24 billion under the Clean Air Act to build a highspeed rail? And yet, there are no plans until 2030. All while the eotterrorist China has over 31,000 miles of high-spe speed rail. Didn't Erica Kirk just set the record for the shortest flight in a private jet emitting half of the average person's yearly CO2 emissions in just those three miles right on the other side of our state border? Who pays the fine if the wind blows it our way? Back in the day, if your car ran a little rich, it was because you knew what the motor liked. Today, it's grounds for the government to seize your property and leave you on the streets not being able to provide the service you once offered.

This isn't a pity party, but rather a PSA on the defects of inequitable environmental law. Between high taxes, tariff, inflated currency, permit and licensing fees, and even paying for public parking, the USA is looking more like the United scam of Americans by politicians and mega corporations who disregard morality pursuant of control. Thank you for your time and Jesus Christ is king. Thanks, Ryan. Thanks. [sighs] All right, motion to adjourn. Oh, Roger. What are you doing, bud?

Well, why aren't you standing up here? Right here. Okay. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa.

Hello, folks. I got to tell you something. What was really amazing. Where else could you be? Where else could you be could you start your job your career as a LA Sheriff's Department deputy and follow Paul Tonaka and Sheriff Lee Baka who went to jail for being corrupt. Okay. after they went to jail. The Where else can you find a person that actually was in charge of a he followed the leth he was the I'm sorry, wait a second. He was Paul Tanaka's second right-hand man and he ran the jails for 11 for over for over 11 years. And in 2011, there was a case where there was it was called Pandora's box, but it was when the the chief of police the the sheriff's department hid an informant for that was a FBI informant. They hid him from the FBI because they found a cell phone and that cell phone they traced it back to the FBI's corruption division for that investigated corrupt corrupt law enforcement. And the person that gave me this information, his name was David F- Ri. And the things that he told me blew my mind. One of the things was that Sheriff Baka, Sheriff Baka Antonaka told someone to take this this informant and hide him. And they moved him all over the place. and they made the the deputies sign paperwork that said that he was released. And in fact, he wasn't released. He was taken to another de he was taken out and moved into a deputy's

home. A deputy's home. And then they returned him back to the jails. But people deputies had to sign off that he was released. Some deputies didn't sign off that that his name was I'm sorry, it's AB. It's Anthony Brown was the informant and he was forced to go to a deputy's home scared shitless and then he and they were interrogating him there. Then they finally had to turn him in. But when people were told to sign off that he was released, they knew that he was going to get they thought that he was going to get killed. So a lot of the deputies did not sign off of the Anthony Brown's release. So because of that, they were they were tortured and they didn't move up in the in the rankings whenever they whenever they were supposed to go up in promotions. They never got the promotions. So they they sued the LA city Sheriff's Department. All of this is sealed. But David Fi T I'm sorry, Fri I hitch.

Thanks, Roger. Appreciate that. Next speaker. Come on up, sir. Come on up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right there is fine.

Okay. McDonald versus US 1948. Power is a heady thing and history shows that police acting on their own cannot be trusted. Okay. There's mass surveillance um is rampant in the United States now and it's questionable whether it's constitutional. Privacy is one of the pillars of a free society. Surveilling every single person is not feasible in real time. However, when every single time you get caught on camera, you get surveiled. Basically, your information gets sold and sold and sold and sold and sold. So, there's a website, I believe it's a technology called Flock for your information. I'm sure you already know that and I just became aware of that just recently. So, I would like to invite everybody in the whole United States, whoever is going to review this meeting tonight. I'm sure maybe you care, some maybe you don't care, but uh the first amendment is a right to free speech, freedom of press, and freedom of religion. And so um there's a YouTube this flock leak is like Netflix stalkers. So if you go to YouTube, look up this flock camera leak is like Netflix for stalkers. Privacy is one of the pillars of a free society. Okay, let me repeat. McDonald versus US 1948. Power is a heady thing and history shows that police acting on their own cannot be trusted. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but that's a 1948 case. Thank you. Have a nice evening.

All right, meeting journ. Thank you.