Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Welcome to the September 3rd session of the Des Moines CET Planning and Zoning Commission. Let me start by reading our rules and procedures. The Planning and Zoning Commission is generally an advisory body of the CET Council. CET Council will hear a general speech on all issues in front of the Commission, such as site plans and subdivision plans, and will make final decisions. The speaker will be given 10 minutes to express his or her needs. Then, there will be a debate in which the representatives of the public and the opponents will be allowed to speak. Each person will be given a maximum of 5 minutes. After that, the speaker will be allowed to stand again for 5 minutes. The hearing of the next debate will be concluded and the Commission will discuss the matter and vote. All opinions should be related to the subject in the debate. The speaker must maintain a respectful attitude. The items listed in the agenda will not be discussed in detail. According to the staff report, they will be considered as approval. However, if any person, commission, or item is removed from the agenda and the public opinion is to be considered specifically in the budget agenda, it will be done accordingly. Okay, let's start by inviting someone to approve the minutes of our last meeting. Thank you. Those who agree, please raise your right hand. Does anyone want to leave the voting booth? Okay, thank you. The vote has been passed. Let's start the first round of the consent agenda. According to the CET Code, which is established on Algonquin Road in 4809, this is the request of Bess Thomas Lamarrow, who is looking for permission to build a garage that is 354 square feet wide. For this, a setback of 5 feet back is required. This is 25 feet short. According to the code, from the required 30 feet, the setback of the back Is there anyone in the board to discuss this agenda today? Is there anyone in the board to discuss this agenda today? Is there anyone in the board to discuss this agenda today? Is there anyone in the board to discuss this agenda today? The second item is about 10.64 acres near the 2400 Garnet Avenue. It is a project of Kata Coral Estate, which is the fourth branch of the South PUD Plan, which allows the use of sports and recreation outdoors. Does anyone want to change the agenda of this item to a general discussion? Does anyone in the Commission have an opinion? Okay, the second item will continue in the consent agenda itself. There is a possibility to move the third item to the consent agenda. Has anyone reached the table today to talk about the third item? Yes. Okay, so let's put it in the public hearing. Can a decision be made to approve the consent agenda?

Thank you.

Those who agree, please raise your right hand. Okay. The application has been passed. Then the first hearing and the first public hearing. This is an application for the approval and approval of the Public Hearing Site Plan for properties on 6803 South West 16th Street. A two-storey accessory dwelling unit with a size of 28 x 32, which is higher than the house with a size of 1.5, should be allowed under the CET code to be built. This is not an ordinary permit. Gillian will now present this to the staff.

Greetings, Chairperson, Commission Members. I am Gillian Summer from the planning staff. This is about a property on 6803 South West 16th Street. This is located near the airport, near Army Post Road, and near Fluine Watch South Isle. There is a house on this site. You can see it in the pictures. This is a 1.5 sq. ft. house. The applicant is suggesting to build an attic on the back of the house. You can see a shed in this picture. That shed will be torn down. The driveway will be extended and the back of EDU will be built. This is the site where EDU is planned to be built after the driveway is extended. EDU will be above the two-car garage. Therefore, the second floor will have a garage with two cars and the second floor will have a living room. This is the garage layout. In the second floor, you can see a living room with 28 x 30 feet and a bathroom with three bedrooms and a living room with a living room. The house in the second floor will be four feet higher than the house in the first floor. The use of edu in this site is not a matter to be investigated. Today, only two types of design are being investigated. The State Code requires that edu be provided in single-family homes. Therefore, the only issue in front of the Commission today is that two types of design are provided that are four feet higher than the house where the edu is located. This is a conceptual picture of how this will look like. The staff is making a request to approve this project. Those four feet are just a nominal amount. We don't think this will affect the area. This is the back of the plot. Also, this reflects the purpose of the city park. Therefore, the staff is making a request to approve this project. Do you have any questions? Continue. 828 times 32 is 870. Is that correct? 28 times 22 is almost 800. Yes, 896. Anyway, that's almost.

Do you have any other questions?

Do you have any other questions? Yes. Do you have any other questions? Yes. Do you have any other questions?

Yes. Do you have any other questions? Yes. Do you have any other questions? Yes. Do you have any other questions? Yes. Do you have any other questions? Once you have spoken, submit it in the paper in that station. Alan Kanut, Kanut Construction. Can you hear me? Okay, okay. I am not used to speaking on the microphone. My address is 10127 West 100th Street, North Roads, Iowa 50234. I am the General Contractor. My name is Amanda Henges. I am the owner of Pibble Properties. My price is 2307 SE Meadow View Court, 5,21,000. Do you have anything to add to the information provided by the staff for our information? I don't think so. If there are no questions to be answered, I would be happy to say anything else. But everything. I think this is a detailed one. This is a very simple case. There is nothing complicated in this.

For a three-bedroom apartment, this would be a very stable one, that's all I can say. Quartz countertops, oak woodwork. Also, let's see, this is Southwest 16. That's why there will be contrasting trim on both sides of the LP Smart Siding. This will be a good house and a very good apartment. As you all know, Demoin is trying to get three-bedroom apartments. Do you have any questions for the applicant?

Are there any illegal activities going on in the house? We do not know if any illegal activities are needed.

The house is now rented. Yes, it's right. Yes, there is a possibility, but there is no solution. Do you have any other questions?

Is there a way to build an ADU apartment without having to use a different roof and a four-story building? That is, We had planned a rate. Forgive me. I told you that I am not used to this. We had set a rate of 6 by 12. If we had used 4 by 12, the height of the roof could have been reduced by about 2.5 feet. So, this is only one and a half feet higher than the height of the house. This is a change that we can fully accept. The only reason for this is that we felt more interested in 612 and 412. Yes, this is my only doubt. Sometimes when we see such things, it feels like a monster in front of a house with 800 square feet. My opinion is that. Yes, this house will be very far back. I don't remember if there are any trees in front of it. So it may not be visible from the outside. As far as I remember from the application, this is about 40 to 60 feet behind. Is that so? This is very far behind the house. Because the driveway is used to go back to the house. The driveway's narrow part is needed for the parking to reach there in front of the EDU. It will be said in my 2035. The EDU house will be 59 feet behind.

Do you have any other questions?

I think we should keep the house in one part of the area for the residents, because they don't have a garage in the area. That's why there is a need to put out the fire extinguishers and other things. We want to finish that. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

Is there anyone in the audience who would like to speak on this matter? Is there anyone who would like to speak on this matter? Is there anyone who would like to speak on this matter? Sir, would you like to speak on this matter? Sir, would you like to speak on this matter? Sir, would you like to speak on this matter? Sir, would you like to speak on this matter? Sir, would you like to speak on this matter? Sir, would you like to speak on this matter? Sir, would you like to speak on this matter?

Sir, would you like to speak on this matter? Sir, would you like to speak on this matter? Okay. Since there is no one else to talk to, I will finish the general hearing and open the commission for discussion and decisions. If there are no other objections, I will follow the instructions of the staff. Thank you.

Is there any discussion on that suggestion? Okay. Those who agree, please raise your right hand. Nirdesham Pasai. Let's move on to the fourth topic. It is almost the same. Again, the application from the people properties, according to the CET code, is a public hearing site that is a type 2 design replacement for the 28 x 32 feet construction of the 206 Fulton Drive. It is the approval and approval of the plan. The dual accessory duelling unit, which is higher than the single house in this building, is intended to be built. This is not permissible according to the code. Julian will repeat this issue.

Thank you. The price of this item is 206 Fulton Drive. The design is the same as the small changes. 206 Fulton Drive is located near Magre Park and South West 9th Street and near Indian Apollo Avenue. This is the property. This is a picture of a house on the ground. This is a house on the ground. The specialty of this is that the basement is a walk-out style. There is a slight change in the layout from the north side of the site. That's why the back part is much lower than the front part. The design is similar to the previous building. The main difference is that there will be an entrance through this. So this is the site plan. This is a 28 by 32 size accessory dwelling unit. There is a garage where two cars can be parked in the lower floor and a driveway entrance with three bedrooms in the second floor. The same type requires two design changes. This house will be four feet higher than this house. Again, we can't control the use of this, but we can control the height. For this type, two designs need to be changed. The change in height and the height difference are the reason. The staff agrees to allow this change. Pardon me.

How much is the actual height difference between the upper part of the house and the upper part of the attic?

4 feet. This is correct.

This is again 4 feet.

It is the same as the previous line. Oh, right.

There is a doubt. Is the 7 feet wide iron or the half of the house flat? Will the garage flat fit in this? No, it is in the residential area. Therefore, according to that law, the arrangement of the garage is different from the arrangement of the residential area. That is, I can build a garage with a thousand square feet above it. Am I right? I think so. I think that's right. Okay. Any other questions?

Thank you. Do you have anything more to say about this matter? We have received feedback on this. We have not received feedback on the other one. Forgive me, I forgot it. On the contrary, we have received feedback from two speakers. I will put this here for you to read for a while. Then we have received feedback from a speaker who approved this. I will show it as the next one. This is the approved feedback. Shady Nani Okay, do you want to add anything else to what Jillian suggested? Should I say my name and address again?

I think it's on the record. That's enough. Okay, good. This microphone is making me feel a little uncomfortable. Then the only change I can say about this is that this is a walkout. There is a big difference in the height of the earth from the front to the back. So, if you measure from the top of the ADU to the top of the house, the ADU will be four feet higher. But I don't know which is the right word for this. The height of the roof of the house will be six feet lower than the height of the ADU. Do you understand this? I know that the reason is not the right word, but it is right. Then I only have to say this. Let me agree quickly, because we had left it to do it first. Thank you. Does anyone have anything to ask when the speaker is here? Okay. Does anyone in the audience agree to this and speak? If not, then oppose. Come forward as a God. Tell your name and address and then sign it. You have five minutes to talk. Danny Beyond, 211 Fulton Drive. I live directly opposite to this house. This does not affect me. You can see the upper part of the roof. As seen in those pictures, if water flows into that corridor, that corridor will be blocked and will go to Highland Street. It is a self without the influence of the city. Then, where is the pond where your water is tied? My first question is that. So, that is also part of it. The tenants who live there now are very good people, but if they had been there before, it would not have been so good. So, if you walk around this area, you will understand that this is not the same place as their other place. Their other place is this branch. This branch is their name. But this place is not like that. This is very small. There is no place for grass to grow here. She will have to cut down all the trees. If the tree in front brings utilities from the street, that 6 feet or 7 feet tall tree will have to be cut into banana beans. Personally, I don't think this property will be a great addition to this property. Thank you. Thank you. Sir, you have 5 minutes to return the properties you have acquired. So, in connection with the discussion about the grade and the water, I spoke in public. I asked them specifically about this road. That meeting was held on the basis that the Municipal Assembly should take care of this road. The reason for this not being taken care of is that no one has been affected so far. So, if no one is saying anything, they do not know that this needs attention. So, after speaking in public, they came and assured me that the road will be completely cleared and that the road will be completely cleared. Because no one uses it, I think it ends in one part where the plants grow. The reason is that no one needs to enter the middle way. There are no barges in the other items there. So, if no one drives their car to the back gate, this is not a normal way to drive. Without any connection with EADU, they stated that the town hall has included how fast it will be done in their agenda. That's what they're doing. They intend to continue the snow removal. They said it will be removed when the snow reaches about 4 inches. But the specialty of this place is that if you are staying there, there is no place to park your car if you are not parking in Pulthagadi, because there is no driveway there. There is only one way to park legally, park in the street near the house, because parking is not allowed near the house. I believe that three tenants have parked in Pulthagadi in between. The current tenants do not have a car and do not drive. But if someone is coming in the morning, there is no place to park. So it is best to work in the garage on the road. Did you make it? Yes. The town hall road will be managed by a tap, not a tar. That's right. That's right. Yes, the tap will be an object that passes through water. Otherwise, it's not impervious. So, half of the water falling on the top of the ADU will go back to the pool. Half will go out. Yes, that's all I have to say. Thank you. Do you have any questions? I have a chairperson.

Yes, a few questions.

Therefore, you will remember the question I asked earlier about reducing the height of the ceiling. In order to avoid these two types of design changes, you can choose a flat roof. I think it will bring you down by 4 feet. Let's go to a roof that is 2 by 12. Yes, it can be a flat roof or a shed roof. Yes, a flat roof. What I mean is that this is something that usually happens, but it's a small shed roof. Yes, or if my math is correct, it will be 2 by 12 work, and you can cover it with a roof sheeting and ice and water guard. There will be no roofing felt or paper there. So I'm saying this as a suggestion. There are other options than getting a variance. You can put a shed roof on it, and it will be just a small one. My next question is about sanitary tap water. Do you have to draw a new line completely or can it be tied to the house and brought back? So we can tie the sewer and water to the house. And then one. Let's put a diversion meter. Anyway, you can put a second meter. Detect meter. That's the right word. Yes, yes. That way, the water bill will be sent home, and then EDU will have to come up with a solution for it. Then again, I am looking at this. I am looking at this photo, but do you have the right size and measure for your sanitary siever? I think you have examined it. You should have an ejector pit in between the garage to pump it up. Then, The company that does it, they have described it. They always do that. Okay, I understood that they can definitely do it and it will work. I think that some big names and solutions that I can see to change from two types of design changes are a very small place. So, that's all the questions I had to ask. Thank you. Again, let me say that we feel that it is more interesting that we chose 6 by 12, and that it should be beautiful to see in the near future. Does anyone else have any other questions? Okay, thank you. Okay, I will end the public hearing.

The commission is open for further discussion and suggestions.

I agree. What should we do? Should we accept the staff report? Yes. Okay, that's my suggestion. I suggest that the staff should accept the report. Thank you. Is there any discussion on this suggestion? I'll quickly say two things.

I don't use this method. But sometimes I think we should try to find solutions instead of looking for alternatives. I disagree with what the Ayyalvasis say. Accessory Delling Units are good, but it is a problem that they are seen as very large in a place with small houses and places. Therefore, I would like to note that this is something to be taken into account. Therefore, thank you. This is a different opinion. First, according to the constitution, it is legal. Secondly, we need a large-scale park. Third, I think it's not enough to just talk about height. We need to think about these things with dignity. In addition, I think it's better to allow more accommodation for adults who have a high level of control over the machines. This is said by an engineer who thinks more about public buildings than the view. So, we can design it in a way that is more suitable for the environment. As an engineer, let me repeat, instead of looking for design changes, we can use a roof with a flat roof or a small roof below to see a solution to this problem. That was my main opinion. I understand that according to the Constitutional Laws of some institutions, this is permissible. Okay, is there any further discussion? We have an order from the staff to approve the proposal. Those who approve, please raise your right hand. Is there anyone against? Is there anyone against? The order has been passed. Thank you.

Okay, our agenda is being completed here. Do you have any reports from the committee or the director? Not at all. Thank you.

Okay, thank you all.