Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

All right. Uh well, it's uh 602. Uh we'll go ahead and get started. Um my name is Steve Neighbor. I am De Moine uh city engineer and De Moines resident. Uh excited tonight to uh help host the uh public information meeting for the Ingresaw Avenue improvements uh phase five. And this is to talk about the construction. uh our city council uh in December held hearing uh approving the plans and awarding the construction contract for phase 5 uh to Shakar Engineering uh and uh and so that project is getting ready to start construction. So we wanted to hold this public information meeting uh to just recap the improvements. I know there was another uh public open house in October that reviewed the design, but we're going to recap the uh uh the the proposed improvements and then also uh we have uh Scott Almeida with uh Kirk and Michael uh the city's consultant uh to help us talk through the staging as well. And so uh again, this is a public information meeting for the Ingressol Avenue improvements phase 5 focusing on 31st Street to 35th Street. Uh we are this this uh this slide may be dated. Some of you probably have more uh um current versions of Zoom. But either way, hopefully you have on your Zoom uh application the ability to raise your hand and also the chat functions. Uh so we ask to in order to keep an orderly meeting that you raise your hand. Uh, and I have team members, uh, including Chris Cool, uh, project engineer, uh, Tom Block, uh, deputy city engineer, Dave Camp, chief design engineer, John Davis, city traffic engineer, uh, on helping out, uh, watching to make sure that we, uh, you know, see if you raise

your hand, uh, or if you have a chat, you can post a question in the chat. Uh, let's see if we got here. Um, and, uh, and so feel free to post questions that way. But again, we're going to give a a presentation and then we'll open up for questions. Uh I want to thank everyone for joining us tonight. Uh also thanks uh uh we I see we have uh council member Carl Voss uh on with us. Uh as well as uh uh Lauren Koloff with the avenues joining us as well. Uh so thank you both. Uh and again we'll go and get started here. Again, looking at the screen, I just have this screen up here. Uh for those I don't see anybody on with a phone. If there's anybody with a phone, they could press star 9 to raise their hand. Uh and star six to mute and unmute themselves. Uh but otherwise, it looks like most people are using the Zoom application. Uh and so can use the raise hand and lower hand functions from that and the mute and unmute functions from that. So, um all right. So, we'll talk uh I'm going to give a quick quick overview of the history. Uh again, I know we had a public meeting recently in October to review the design, but I'll recap the history and recent improvements. Uh what we're looking at doing with this project, uh as well as and then as mentioned, Scott Alido with Kirk and Michael is going to talk about the construction staging. Uh I would also like to call out uh we've got representatives and leadership uh from the contractor, Shakar Engineering, uh Shandra Shakar, uh Matthew Sunberg as well, and Roberto Cave uh are on the on this Zoom meeting as well. Uh so we have leadership from the contractor as well on here. So the history this dates back uh 20 years and uh when the the planning efforts and uh started for to to uh improve Ingresol Avenue uh and and uh and make it a unified pedestrian

friendly street. And in fact in 2007208 uh the the first streetscape uh project was completed uh and that that was the section between essentially 28th and 31st. In 2010 uh the street was converted from a four-lane uh to a three-lane roadway. And then in 2018 uh the the avenues uh Ingresol ran uh led an effort to uh you know uh do a phasing study to uh how do we attack the construction of this uh of this project? How do we phase it? Uh and then in 2019 the the the final cross-sections were approved and then uh and so this is the graphic where we are today. Uh and so phases 1 through three between Martin Luther King Jr. Parkway and 28th Street were completed between 2020 and 2023. Phase 4 uh between 28th and 31st Street was completed last uh in 2024. Uh and so tonight we're here to talk about uh the upcoming phase between 31st Street and 35th Street uh anticipated to start this year, this construction season and be completed uh you know by by by summer of next year. And uh and I do want to also point out the city had a sewer separation project that uh due to a consent decree with the state uh we had to have uh a combined sewer overflow at 22nd and high closed uh you know within a certain time frame. And so we had to install a sewer uh from uh essentially 35th uh up to 40 uh 1st Street. We went to 42nd on the improvements. So because we were installing the sewer at that time with putting the large sewer in, we put back the concrete work essentially for in preparation for the streetscape.

And so that's why uh you probably saw uh there's just the north half of Ingresol Avenue uh was done. And that was because it was done as part of a sewer project uh that had to be done in accordance with the consent decree for environmental purposes uh to improve uh storm water drainage uh as as well as manage and decombine the the combined sewer system that was in the neighborhood. So again, this is to talk about the phase between 31st and 35th Street. Here's a a beautiful uh aerial view I believe taken by Kirk and Michael uh that shows uh some of the work that's been completed. this upcoming phase is going to continue that same cross-section that you see in the aerial and that you see out there today. And so um so I always like to look at well why why one remind everybody why are we doing this project? Okay well uh there's a couple there's a number of reasons. One the pavement the existing pavement uh needs complete reconstruction. We've essentially had to uh band-aid it to hold it together, but the pavement needs complete reconstruction. That's removing in its entirety all the way down to the dirt and building a brand new pavement section uh with a new granular base course, uh sub drains, under drains, storm sewers, uh and a whole new fold up pavement. Uh it it a resurfacing uh would be like if we just milled 2 in put 2 in back, it'd be like putting a band-aid on a broken bone. So we need to completely reconstruct the pavement. So that's that's one thing. Uh and so because we're reconstructing the pavement, now is the time to make safety and streetscape improvements. Okay. And uh along with that along this corridor, especially this stretch of the corridor between 31st and 35th and Scott and there'll be some pictures later uh that show this, but we have some sidewalk uh especially on the south side just west

of 31st Street uh that's in poor condition. It's heaved. It's it does not meet the Americans with Disability Act requirements and standards for providing an accessible route uh due to the grades and the slopes. And so quite frankly to just fix the sidewalk alone by itself uh would be extremely costly to say the least. And so this street by reconstructing the road uh that gives us an opportunity to address those great issues with the sidewalks. So again we got to reconstruct the pavement. We got to deal with the sidewalks that are in poor condition and need to be replaced. Uh and then we also want to make the safety improvements. And you can see uh the data on the right. This is the the city staff, our traffic and transportation staff have been collecting before and after data. You can see the crashes have drastically reduced uh you know since before this whole project started. And then and also with that uh kind of goes hand inand the speeds the average speeds have been reduced as well. And so that's uh those are great things to say the least. The city of De Moines is is committed through vision zero DSM to eliminate crashes that result in fatalities and serious injuries. And so our focus uh is is is not necessarily to get someone from A to B as fast as possible. It's to get people from A to B as safe as possible. And so uh and and so we need to when we do these projects think about all street users, everyone who uses the street, whether it be the vehicles, uh transit users, pedestrians, bicyclists, everyone that uses the street and and how is it safe for all everyone who uses it. And so uh that's when we think about safety, that's our focus. Uh and so uh again, we're going to continue that cross-section that you see to the that you see to the east with the sidewalks, protected bike lanes, uh making the

crosswalks accessible, you know, accessible, meeting the ADA requirements, uh as well as doing that streetscape, uh beautifification, uh you know, that you see as well. So and and we've seen uh you know not only the safety and benefits of doing this project uh here you see some of the data that's also been collected 2.7 million visitors to Ingresol Avenue uh over the fiscal year uh July 1st 2024 to July June 30th 2025 uh so again increased foot traffic absolutely awesome uh economic impacts you can see the incremental valuation uh that's occurred with the development in the area. Uh we're extremely proud to say the least. Uh I'm proud as a resident of Mingresol. It's a um um you know a place it's a vibrant place that you want to be. And so these numbers are definitely reflecting that. And I like to always show a picture. I think a picture tells a lot. Here was an aerial photo taken in 2020. And here's a more recent drone photo of the same exact location between 24th and 28th Street. So this is uh right between the section between 24th and 28th. I think a picture tells a lot about not only the vibrancy, but what is an easier uh more safer street for pedestrians to cross as well as vehicles traveling the corridor trying to slow people down uh you know as well. So, this graphic just shows kind of the overall improvements between 31st and 35th Street. Uh, one thing we're going to do with that is the speed limit will change uh with this project. So, the speed limit is going to be changed to to 25 miles an hour and that's throughout the the whole corridor. And so, the the speed limit is going to be changed from 25 miles an hour from Martha King Junior Parkway all the way west uh through this

project. And so, um, and that's again a result, uh, combined with the project to try and make this corridor, uh, safer and and and slow vehicular traffic as it travels through, uh, through this corridor. And here's a another graphic that kind of shows that cross-section that you see to the east, uh, you know, again with the three-lane roadway, the parking stalls, which have permeable pavers, and that's a storm water benefit. normal pavement. Uh the the storm water just runs across the pavement, gathers into a storm intake and races to a storm sewer and races off to the uh to the river and and so uh we want to promote uh groundwater infiltration as much as possible and reduce that storm water runoff. Uh so uh and try and promote that groundwater recharge. And so these parking areas, the water is designed to go through the pavement system and and hope hopefully uh do as much groundwater recharge as possible. And so that's the parking pavers and those are you can see those to the east as well. Uh the the uh uh the the protected bike lane and the sidewalks and streetscape elements as well. And this graphic kind of just shows uh through the different phases. I don't know if Scott, do you want to transition here or does that work for you? Yeah. So,

yep. Again, Scott, I mean, it's Kirk and Michael, a design consultant for this project. So, um we'll go through three slides here, but this kind of shows um one of the previous slides just in more detail. So, this is at 35th Street. So, Price Chopper would be in the center of the screen to the north there. Um then the big um project Goldfinch Lofts would be to the south side here. What is you know, marked as lot 444 in that area. So this is that area of the streetscape. Off to the right you can see the new pedestrian crossing that will be directly in front of the Casey's door um is where that will be located. There's a lot of foot traffic that crosses right there. Can I mention Windsor Terrace and a lot of people trying to get across. So that will be a new overhead crossing just like the other ones you see with the flashing beacons. If you can go to the next slide please. That's kind of the middle of the project. So 34th Street is to the left. Uh Windsor Terrace is to the south and then we move to the center. Uh the center parcel in the bottom there is Kuribu Coffee. To the north are are some other like Solar Pond Jesse's Embers is St. Mark. So you can see it say Jesse's Embers. That's where Jesse's is at. Um and then to the souththeast of that with that big pink parking lot is where the post store is and the station on Ingresol. Go to the next slide, please. Um, and then this gets us down to 31st Street. Um, you know, so the the big north area there, Chase Bank, is on the corner and then that developments, our Tesla will be going in once they break around to the north. So that kind of takes us through the whole section of of the corridor. The fre um, you know, has a big crown in the center. So we'll be installing storm sewer uh, in both directions. Uh, believe it or not, this section of Ingresol has never had any storm sewer. It actually has Xtakes uh which is where storm water from Grand Avenue comes down to our to Ingresol here and shoots out of the intake and

runs down the street. So we'll be solving a lot of drainage issues uh by just simply adding storm sewer to the street for its first sign. So um next slide as Steve mentioned uh some of the sidewalks here are extremely bad. So we'll be pulling out that tree doing all new wider sidewalks through the whole corridor. Um these sidewalks here on the right will be pushed down. So there'll be new landscaped walls, new steps. Um everything will be ADA compliant uh and easily traversible. So that'll be a huge benefit for those corridors. Next slide, please. Um there will not things you won't see uh you will not see any medians in this section. That was a feedback we heard uh moving forward. There's been no medians uh since we got west of 28th Street. So there will not be any medians. Um we're also doing away with the railings. Unfortunately, those are a maintenance nightmare and uh they get hit a lot by either snow removal equipment or people uh hopping the curb and running into them. So you will not see any more of those metal railings. Uh they're just a long-term maintenance problem for the avenues. So parking, everyone wants to know about parking. Well, this is a first for us. Um, we're actually increasing parking on the street and this is in 100% uh due to the cooperation with local owners of property. So, you can see all those red X's in there. So, we're actually removing five driveways from this section. So, that's a huge improvement not only for pedestrians and cyclists, but for people who want to park on the street as well. So, every driveway we can remove, honestly, we gain four to five parking spaces. So, uh, thank you to all those who have removed driveways. Goldfinch in the southwest corner with their new development was able to remove two. Um, Collaborate DSM was able to remove theirs in the southeast corner. And then this new Artesta development did not need theirs either as they have access from different access agreements.

So, uh, really proud to say we have two additional parking spaces new. We're adding parking to this corridor instead of decreasing it. Um, so that's it's a really good win for the project and the corridor. Next slide, please. Okay. Uh, a lot of you probably want to know about construction staging. Um, so this will be very similar to what was just recently done on the pilot project area 28th to 31st. Um, so we'll be starting this spring. The contractor will start in the area in green. Um, so we'll be working on the south side. This is where we have the most hills, the most stairs, and all those things. So, it's going to be the more complicated part of the project. The first thing you will see though is Mid American Energy show up. So, they will be showing up to do overhead pole relocations. Currently, there's a pretty ugly pole line running through there uh on wood poles. This will get converted to new black poles and everything will be rerung. Uh the poles move about 3 ft from their current location, but they'll be showing up here, I believe, starting early February. Uh so in about two weeks hopefully they'll start installing these new black poles through the corridor, reringing the new electric and then you'll see all the people who also hang on those poles show up as well. So you'll see Mediacom and Centry Link and maybe Metro come in behind them and rering and then those old wood poles will come out. So it's a much cleaner look. The old poles were in the way of the streetscape anyways. So, South Pole will happen first and then our contractor will come in and start doing uh storm sewer water main relocations on the south side. So, the green area will be first. So, all the traffic will be pushed to the north. I'll show some graphics here in a minute about what that'll look like. Um so, they'll be doing the green first. The blue area will be their staging area. So, thus they can get concrete trucks in and deliveries and other things like that. Um, and then there's some very specific site staging for some of the owners through here, and we've met with them, and we're going to continue to meet with them to make sure that their needs are

met. Obviously, everyone needs to stay open at all times. So, during business hours, all businesses will be open. Uh, we and the contractor will work with any of the owners to uh shut down their driveways and replace them when they're closed or find specific times where we can get in and out real quick. So, we've done this uh again with the stage five. So, we've done this a lot of times. And then the plan for uh 35th Street and 31st is those to be open. Uh we will close them for a short duration to do these areas that you kind of see in orange, pink, yellow, and blue. So, we'll do the bulk of the work and then when we're ready to pave like that long section in in teal, uh the orange section, let's call it stage 1C, we'll come in and rip out that pavement, put in the the subbase in a few days, and then pave it with the rest of it. So, those closures are extremely limited. Uh we don't want to close 31st or 35th anymore, and we have to. So, those should remain open 95% of the time or more of the project. just these short little durations. We'll go in there, rip out the pavement and put it back as we're doing the rest of the large pavement. So once uh the green is done, we'll, you know, we'll pave the area in blue and then everything will flip. We'll work on the north side later in the year and kind of do the same sort of things. Um

yeah, just like Scott, I I see uh Matt Sberg from the Shakar engineering, you have your hand up. Let me uh see if I can get you to unmute there. Oh, there you go, Matt. Hi, uh Matt Sunberg, Scar Engineering. I'm the project manager on this uh endeavor. Uh I just wanted to make a quick comment on the on the phasing. We will have to do the four crossovers for the storm sewer from the north to the south before we really get into the south portion.

Yep. Appreciate that, Matt. Yep. Yep. Matt is correct. So the to to add storm sewer through to the project, we'll be adding there'll be an initial stage right after the electric where they come in and we'll shift traffic around a little bit uh in the streets. You may one day be going to the right of some construction, another day to the left as we just put in a few pipes across the street that we'll need for both stages and then we'll pour some temporary pavement. So yeah, correct Matt. Thank you for addressing that. I forgot about that one. Thank you Matt. All right, Scott, next slide, right?

Yep. Next slide. Um, this is just a section of kind of what you'll see. Again, if you drove drove during uh the last section, it'll be the same thing. Topic will be headtohead. We'll push you all the way over. Put a concrete barrier there for your safety and the contractor's safety and then we'll do our work. And so they'll build the streetscape first in the walls uh in the right area. And then once that's done, they'll go in and pave the street. You know, that barrier rail will keep uh everyone protected and separated except for where we have driveways. you know, commercial commercial driveways. Uh the pavement will probably get torn out early and then we'll have granular surfacing with signs that tell you how to get to that business. Um very similar to anything you've seen before in previous projects. If you go to the next slide, it's just the same thing. Uh switched to the to the north side. Um we will not want to open up that permeable paver parking on the south side. We'll block that off. It's just it's just a little tight with that barrier rail for safety. There isn't quite enough room there. So, we're not going to open that parking on those pavers yet until we get that north side done. So, there will not be any parking on street while we're doing this. Um, luckily, this zone here has quite a bit of off- streetet parking. Um, so we're working with business owners. I've met with a lot of them to figure out how we can get uh whether it's employees uh parked in different areas and and work with other local owners to kind of share parking as we work our way through this. Uh, next slide. I think pretty much bring it up to the end. Um, the design team contacts. Again, I'm Scott Alme with Circle Michael. Uh, Lauren, a lot of you may know, is the avenues director and then Chris Cool, City De Moines, is the projects engineer. So, this the three of us have been kind of walking down this project uh pretty much since its inception. Lauren came in I think during phase two or three, but uh we've been on this for the whole time. So, um, a lot of you probably met us before if

you're if you're a local business owner. Uh, the next slide, I believe, is the contractor for the project, um, Shafar Engineering located here in De Moines. Again, Matt was on, he's project manager, founder president, and then Roberto will be the project super. So, uh, you will see staff on site every time there's construction. So, there'll be people from Shakar on site. Also, we'll have one of my guys on site as well. Um Cliff, he was out there last or two years ago on the previous project. So we'll always have repres repres representation on site. Uh should you need need anything or see an issue, please feel free to find one of us and we can get any issues addressed immediately. So Steve, I think that's uh yeah, timeline. Uh so we obviously had that open house back on October 16th at Palmer's Delhi. Um the project was bid uh in November, which is now last year. Um and again we we plan on starting construction here technically in February with Mid-American in utilities. Um Shakar I believe intends to show up on site to do some of those storm cross runs uh early early to mid-Marchch and then we'll work throughout the year and then we'll have some items you know rolling into 2027 to finish up.

Next slide please. Yeah, and that I mean that kind of brings us to here's again that snapshot of the phase again starting up here soon and uh and then the completion in summer 27 obviously if things with weather we hope to uh um uh that this goes quicker. Uh but uh we're going to go into questions here. I do see some in the chat that I'm going to start off with. I see a question from Amanda uh that says, "If the 31st Street closure happens to close uh or if the 31st Street closure happens close to winter weather, it's super important to have all available lanes in that area. The ability to go get up going south on 31st is very difficult during the snow uh and winter weather conditions uh when the lanes are reduced. So, I hope this uh um so again talking about during winter weather. I don't know. I think that's you know Mid-Americ as you mentioned Mid-Americ will start up but I'm not sure about 31st Street closing.

Um yeah 31st we're we'll have to close it. So I guess you go back to the staging diagram if you don't mind.

Um yeah that one there. So um stage 1C in orange is probably going to be in July and again we're talking a few days. Um, stage 2B in pink should again be very short and I think in the schedule it's showing that more like se September Octoberish. Um, so it should not be anywhere close to to winter weather. Uh, again the main body of the street is asphalt and so that plant closes the Thanksgiving every single year. So we aim to be a good months ahead of that with any projects to make sure that our asphalt is down because come Thanksgiving you can't get it anymore. So, um,

Matt, if anything you guys want to jump in from that, but yeah, they we shouldn't be close to that, but we, um, good comment. Appreciate that. We, we know how critical these sight streets are. So, the the stipulation is on a contractor for, oh, I want to say 7 to 8 days, maybe maybe as much as two I think it's even two weeks. I have to look, but it's very short duration for those closures. And the good news is we just have to rip out the old statement, grade it, and then put that asphalt down. So should be extremely short.

So either way, it sounds like the work on in the 31st intersection is not probably going to happen till this summer and into the fall and a short duration. So, um, but, uh, then there's also, uh, question about communication in North Grand, uh, neighborhood and and I, I see Lauren, uh, had just shared, uh, that she's been sharing the social media and the newsletter and making sure the north of Grand President's on the email list and hopefully uh, you know, I had emailed information on this meeting uh, to the whole North of Grand uh, neighborhood association leadership as well, at least not only about this meeting, you know, where to find the project and stuff as well. So, so yeah, thank you. Thank you, Amanda. Appreciate it. Okay, we have another question in the chat here. Uh, if there uh if there won't be street parking on Ingresol for more than a year, would the city consider not enforcing the two-hour parking limit on the on the side streets? I'm not Yeah, I'm not seeing us. Uh, we have not done that. Uh, I think we've got uh um let's see here. Yeah, we we have not been able to The hard part would be where to limit being allowed to do that. Uh how would we tell enforcement where and when? Uh we have not done that for construction projects uh in the past. So, Um, so we know it's uh definitely impactful. We're trying to stage this to try and keep the businesses open as much as possible uh but yet get done as quickly as possible. So, and the trouble and so the question is can we just take down the signs? I mean the the challenge if you we've

experienced when we take out if we don't if we take down the twohour signs is is there will there can be vehicles that will just park there and stay there and never move. Uh and so uh generally in our commercial areas and corridors like this and downtown, we want people to turn over the parking. Um, so all right. If there's any questions that please feel free to uh continue to add in the chat or or raise feel free to raise your hand using the uh the Zoom application. And I did I did I failed to mention uh during the presentation, but uh um we are recording this uh as well. So if you know folks that wanted to see this, uh we are recording this and we'll we'll uh get this posted on a website here. Um I see a question here from Kim. A concern of how long the 3,200 uh parking lot will take. how long the 32 parking lot will take and accommodations uh for the freight carriers. Uh and so I know Scott, if you're Let's see here. 3200 parking lot. See if we can find a

You go to the uh Yeah, go to the one more, please. There you go.

The 3200. Yeah, we actually have a meeting tomorrow um with the owner of that site and we and we met I think we might have met um a couple weeks back, but we're we've engaged the contractor. Um we are in the mindset that engage to close the store. Um yeah, we're still open. We we don't have a specific that plan yet. Um and so I'm assuming you work at the post store. Um, so yeah, that one is a challenge. Um, obviously we had that meeting a while back. We're going to have our pre-construction meeting here soon. Um, I've asked the contractor to go out and look at the site and and help us brainstorm different ways to get this done quickly. Um, we have a meeting tomorrow. I think Lauren, I'm not sure the time. Uh, we'll actually be meeting with the site owner tomorrow as well. So, this is our most difficult uh location here and it's one of our top priorities is to make sure that that is down for as short as possible. We would love to leave the parking lot alone and not touch it. Uh unfortunately, due to the grade, we need to we need to fix it. Um so, upside you'll have a brand new parking lot. Downside, it it'll be down for a short amount of time, but we are still committed to making that happen in an extremely short time window. Um, and so I should hood should should hopefully know some more here within the next few weeks. And this it's scheduled happen I I want to say miday. Matt, jump in if you need to. Um, is it even April? That

Yeah, I think I I don't have my schedule pulled up, but I think it was having uh that done in May. So, from a comment we had earlier in a in a meeting was to get it done before the the World Cup. So that parking lot would all be opened up again. Uh, one thing we're looking at now is maybe doing night work through there to help avoid uh, impacting customers during the day while we're in there working, but I mean we can we'll finalize those plans in the next few weeks as well.

Yep. Um, a lot of questions coming in the the work as mentioned. I think we were looking to be April. I want to say in the schedule it showed April. So, it' be after March Madness, before World Cup um is at least where I saw it on the schedule, I believe. Matt, I want to say was 4 20 or four. It's somewhere in there. But yeah, we're we're cognizant of March Madness and and the station and everything. So, we'll be we'll be having a pre-con soon and kind of trying to flush out the schedule better and and uh working with you guys to figure out when we'll be there. Um, another question for the two sculptures that are on the 31st Ingresaw block. Um, I know there is one sculpture. I'm not aware of the one. I'm not thinking the second one. There's a sculpture in front of uh collaborate and that is getting what is that saying, Chris? Do you remember? Moving it.

Yeah, Amanda. The only one I know of is the one in front of collaborate and yeah, we worked with the property owner to sort of like build around it. Um, oh, the deer, that one's in Florida. That's 40 that's all the way up 42nd Street. That's at the Plymouth Place property. So, that one won't be impacted in this phase. And it's enough in their property that the deer should shouldn't probably be impacted at all. But the collaborate one, we're like building around it. go to the previous or one fly by back. I'm seeing a question about 3209. Yeah, that was one we missed. Emily asked when we work in front of 3209 uh kind of across the street.

The Gemini building with the with the arch uh on the front of it. So, that one would be in the fall. I could try to pull up my schedule here and see. Um, I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, Matt. I believe August, we're looking at like August 1st to switch to the north side. Does that sound right to you? The tenative schedule to be August, September would be August, September, October would be the work on the north side. I'm trying to remember the schedule in my head here. Yep. Yeah. All driveways, all businesses will stay stay open at all times except for when we have to tear out these driveways and put them back. And we would like to do those outside of business hours um when we can. So again, we'll be on the street every single day. Uh we'll have weekly construction meetings. Um so we hope you guys know week well weeks in advance of when anything like this would be happening. Is there any questions we didn't address?

I know uh Kim mentioned just wanting to know the window of time for the 3200 lot and that's just something um Kim I apologize. I don't know if you're in the meetings or Scott, you mentioned there's a

Yeah, we met with we went and had a we sat down with them at the station in Gresol a couple weeks back and trying to figure out what works best for them uh with them and the locksmith and and uh you know the the beauty salon upstairs and so we're we're uh we're all over that. Um, and now that we've got the contractor on board, um, you know, Matt's talking about maybe doing some night work. So, we don't have our formalized plan yet any way, shape, or form. We're looking, you know, April, May for that work, but we will continue to work with you and again have a meeting tomorrow with the Mar Mr. Margules. So, be continuing to figure that out.

Yeah. And here I just flashed the contacts up if you know uh Kim if you um hadn't been including those that there's Scott's email as well if you want to provide your information. Yep. And I see a comment there about busy bubbles. That is something we are promoting. Um again we have to work with the owner to get that approval. But um yes if we're able to and that's in the bottom right corner here that 532 East 31st Streetable alternate access you were on it.

Which one? Uh, one more. Yes, it's right there in the very bottom right corner of the picture. Um, there's like a little arrow and and down. Go down further down. Yeah, right there. Yeah. So, that's their busy bubble uh is no longer there and is now being used for parking. But, um, yeah, in in the past, the contractor, I believe, rented out that parking lot and is able to use it for staging. Also, in this case, we're hoping to be able to use it for alternate access, but it's something we have to work out with the private property owner. So, we'll be getting uh Shakar in contact with them and hopefully we can work out because that would be ideally. Yes, absolutely. Um be using that access. That's something we've identified on our dating sheet specifically a possibility.

Yeah, great question, Lena. Okay, appreciate the questions. Say like I said, please feel free to can you use the chat or feel free to raise your hand uh through the Zoom application. Yeah,

we'll be uh again with the weekly meetings. Um Lauren will be out on a little bit of maternity leave, but I'll be taking over her duties, has sent out the weekly email blasts. Um, so once we do actually start construction here in early March, that's when you should start getting weekly emails from us as to what's happening. We will meet on site every single week throughout the entire project to know what's coming up next for not only the current week that we're on, the week after that, and the week after that. So hopefully you will get noticed um at least three to four weeks ahead of when a major impact would happen.

Yeah. And thank you, Lauren. Lauren just posted uh a link to the the avenodsm.com uh backmoving-forward. So, please check out the avenues.com website. It's a very well-designed site providing a lot of updates. There's a lot of information on there. Uh so, there's a link right there in the chat. Thank you, Lauren.

Uh this is Matt with Shakar again. Um, just looking at my schedule right now, that 3,200 uh, property, we're looking at getting into there um, tenatively right now of April 20th and be there for I think 14 calendar days that that and that would be to to build the wall and and redo the parking lot and that kind of stuff there. Yep. So yeah, that that's not saying the parking lot will be closed that long, but that's how long uh you know they plan to be there to put that wall together. The wall is basically a giant Lego block, so they they have nubs on them. They sleep together. Um so that um should go pretty quick and then get that parking lot knocked out. Um I did see a comment there about the bricks under the street. Um we do on this section anticipate to find brick and trolley track. Uh once again, just part of the reason the street's so bad. It's hundred and years old or more. It just it just can't last that long. So, um Matt, is that something you want to discuss? I think there's some street some bricks under there. Um that's a contractor question there. Um, I mean, we have it in our plan for removing the trolley tracks as as necessary as we encounter them.

As far as the bricks, brick, yeah,

as far as the bricks go, um, normally we just remove them and dispose of them, but I guess if people are interested in them, then maybe something can be worked out having them staged somewhere. Yeah, like likely um if they are able to as they pulled them out if we if we remember to, they could just drop a bucket or two towards the side of the project site and they say, you know, some could be salvaged. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see what we can do there. We'll put that into our notes and try to be cognizant of that. Um we did save, you know, just for information, we did save some of the trolley tracks. If you go out to the uh the Waveland Trolley Monument, uh that's our switch actually from 25th and Ingresol. It's part of that display now. So, some tracks were saved and are actually on display over at Waveund. Um we're not sure how much we'll find. Some sections the tracks were gone. Um some sections they're still there. So, it will be uh really interesting to see what we find. And Kim had a clarification question on there. Uh Matt, you mentioned 14 days. Is that you're assuming just 14 calendar days or you or is that more She mentions Monday through Friday. Would that be more like a few weeks? You know,

working days versus 14 days. The contract specifies 14 calendar days. So, we'd probably be working multiple crews and working seven days a week until that's done. So it looks like the hope is it's 14 calendar days. So two full weeks, Kim. Hopefully that is the hope.

Yeah. And and and that time we wouldn't we don't anticipate having you having you close. Our goal would be continue to have access. I know um we talked about maybe trying to find a spot for the delivery trucks to still get in and and other stuff. And so we'll try to figure all that stuff out what works best for you. Excellent. All right, we'll pause a little bit if there's any more questions on the chat or if anybody wants to raise their hand. As you can see, I do have our design team contacts up. If you think of any uh questions, uh feel free to send a follow-up email. Yep. Yep. We're we're open book. So, anytime you guys have any questions, like that brick was a really good question. Anything like that. Um please feel free to give up any questions. Obviously, when the site is operational, please don't wander into the work site. Um if you have any questions, one of my guys will be out there. Email me, call us, any questions you have. Uh we're happy happy to answer anytime. Yeah, I really appreciate uh like I said uh all everyone taking the time to join us. Uh I also appreciate very thank you to uh uh Lauren Koloff with the avenues does an awesome job communicating and and uh Council Member Voss. He did have to duck off to go to another meeting. Uh and uh and thank you to Shakar Engineering. I had appreciate Shandra, Matt, and Roberto uh also being on this meeting so they can hear uh some of the comments that uh that you all have. And so thank you uh Shakar engineering team. So uh thank you Scott for helping give the presentations. We'll pause just for a second here to see if there's any last questions.

The Brenton Skating Plaza is busy tonight still. It's good to see even though it's cooling off a little bit. So, all right. Well, I'm not seeing any more questions. Uh again, uh you we'll be seeing utility work starting in February. uh as well as uh as Matt mentioned some of the storm crossings as well. Uh this me this meeting has been recorded uh and it will be posted uh uh please check out the avenuesdsm.com uh and as Lauren posted the avenuesdsm.commoving-forward. Uh there's a lot of information posted there. Uh and I also have the contacts up if you have any follow-up questions. I really appreciate everyone joining us tonight and uh and thank you. Have a wonderful evening. Thank you so much. Thanks, Scott. Great job.

Thank you.