County Council - Regular Meeting

April 20th, 2026 commissioners meeting. There are title six forms in the back corner by the door if you'd like to fill one of those out and turn it in at the auditor's office. If you'd please the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

And if you can remain standing, Greg Red is going to lead us in prayer. Father God, we are so grateful for another beautiful morning that you have created for us. Lord, as we meet together, Lord, I lift up Brian, Gabe, Jeremy, as we have chosen them to leave. strength wisdom as they let us be good examples into this world around us. Lord, as we go through this day, let us remember you for each one of us that we may be reconnected with you. Have in your son Christ.

Amen. Thank you, Greg.

All right. Starting first with the review of the April 6 meeting minutes. Guys have any amendments? I didn't have anything. No, I would make a motion to accept those minutes. I'll second that motion. All those in favor say I. I I those opposed. Motion carries. Moving on to claims. Everything look good in the claims to me. I as well. I'd make a motion to approve claims. I'll second that motion. All those in favor say I. I.

Those opposed. Motion carries. Moving on to payroll for the week of April 10th, 2026 in the amount of $428,554.31. I'd make a motion to approve playable claims. I'll second. All those in favor say I. I. I. Those opposed. Motion carries. Thank you. All right. Tim Hortman with the highway department. Morning, gentlemen. Morning. Morning, Tim.

First item of business will be this. My recommendation is to award that the lawyer.

All right. I've got the bids here. So lawyers bid looks like $13,6126. And did you go through these already to make sure everything's there? Okay. Well, I'd entertain a motion. I would make a motion to accept lawyer for our painting and striping of Junior West. Those in favor say I.

I. Those opposed. Motion carries. All right. Think of it as Enterprise truck. So we had on last agenda. Didn't touch on it a whole lot. We're working with them. We're still working with them. Going through the process and everything. Lowest cost ownership undoubtedly is to purchase outright basically. That's what it boils down to. ownership versus lease to tune probably about 13 to 14% difference in cost is what it would cost us for lease versus owned. So we do have an option we can own through them purchase through them basically state bid uh basically it'd be based on source well which is a a contractor pricing

situation plus any factory incentives uh would apply. So with new model years coming out, there could be some factory incentives coming down the line yet that could apply. So these these are preliminary. Basically what it is, we purchase them. They have to hold title for a year because they are not a dealership. So it' be a $30 a month is what they charge per vehicle to run the maintenance of the fleet is what it be for that year. Then we have the option to buy out $400. That's the title and all that, etc. is what be down to. So for clarity, this is much like what we do with the sheriff's department. Their enterprise purchases the vehicle, they get it outfitted to the way that meets Yep. your standards, your specs, then it's delivered to you ready for operation. Yes.

And then they would hold the title for one year at $30 a month. Yes. And then we would purchase the vehicle. Yeah. And it cost $400. Do the tile transfer and all that paperwork transfer at that point. It would Okay. So 360 bucks plus the 400. So $760. And then you from there, you're saying the total cost to do it that way is 13 to 14% less than if we were to buy it and outfitt it ourselves. No, then if we lease it, if we take the lease term, you know what I'm saying?

So, we've only preliminarily priced them. Purchase them outright through them and us is pretty close. I mean, it's not a whole lot of difference, but we got the leg work of transporting vehicles here to get set up, getting them set up, bringing them back. We we we get away from all that plus all the warranty work for that year. If it has to be transported somewhere, we're out of all that. It's Do you know what the cost difference is if you purchased it and did the outfitting yourself versus if they purchased it and did it? It's pro. I mean, I don't know for sure. I can get it to you. The invoice of the truck, but the chassis itself is basically the same purchase price because they're both coming through the government source on that part of it.

Yes. But do they get a better deal with the outfitters than We would have to price it to find out if there's a better deal on that. Yes. And I can go back. You're saying you're not you're saving all the leg work if you went with them. They're doing all that for That's what the 760 bucks is all the leg work and the warranty work, etc. is what it's saving the counties. Yeah. which I understand there's a great deal cost in two people driving a truck here and dropping it off and doing that three or four times with each outfitter just right be able to get it all done as well. So I'm not asking go with these right now. These are just preliminary just so you got an idea what we're looking at where we stand at this. Yes. If you could get us that figure of what the difference would be. Yep.

Yep. Just so that we know. I No problem. $500. You're gonna have way more than that in labor moving the truck around. Yeah. It's interesting to see that that the lease program works so well for the sheriff's department but not for what you're using it for. I think because a lot of it mileage and turns the sheriff's department turns vehicles a lot quicker due to the high mileage. Yes. I think that's where the big big difference actually is because you know we're looking to keep something five to seven years, eight years and a lot probably higher cost of upgrade. Yeah, definitely. So I think that's where it comes into. Okay. Different class. Yeah. Okay. All right.

So, that's what we got there. So, you got any more question on that or we'll just keep bug checking through this? Yeah. Get us those numbers. That'd be do that. But thank you for this information. No problem. Good.

So, uh next one is continuation of county road 400 West. So, we was asked to go ahead and do traffic counts on the road. Uh get pace calls together. So, uh the pace array the traffic cart traffic counts. We put two traffic hours out. One on the south side, one north side. So the one on the south side down there just north of base road had an average traffic count of 38 vehicles a day. So peak traffic one day was 56. So the traffic counter two was on the north end up by northwest 240. It had an average traffic count of 22 with a peak of 39. So that's how the traffic count. Average traffic of 60 per day. Huh. Combined average traffic of 60.

Well, depending on which way the traffic came in and out. Yep. So that's why we ran two traffic counters to track. So majority of tra there's more traffic coming in from south going out south than because the residents there are on the south south of the 90s. Yeah. It makes sense what the data showed as you're coming in and out, right?

Yeah. So little little bit of history of the road. 2003 is when it was gravel. 2004 and 2005 is when it was converted to asphalt. It was done by millings and chip and seal over and a chip and seal application. So 2011 is a pace rate 7. 2021 pace rating four. 2025 was a pace rating of three. So that kind of gives an idea when it was done and deterioration of the road over time, what kind of time it took to deteriorate. So and then we just kind of broke down the project cost. So you have all the projects All right. Any thoughts, guys?

Um, we do have um some guests here this morning that uh I think you guys you guys spoke last time about it. Um, we did get your email uh about your thought process of you're okay with it as long as we do speed bumps is what you had said. Um, so as far as speed bumps go, I I'm not a personally not a fan of speed bumps. I don't think that's what we should be doing on our county roads. Um, I know we talked about speed because that was a big problem, right, for traffic. you you talked about you you thought things were um vehicles were going too fast. So the hard part for us is we can't control how people drive. Um we can we can put speed limits. We can do a reduction of speed limit in that area. Um

don't

Well, that's true. I did have Tim pull that information from Purdue. And so the speed bumps or there there's three different kinds of speed bumps or speed bump, speed hump, and something else able the table. That's the real wide one. Um so those all have different classifications and speeds that they can be used. And the smallest one, which would be your speed bump, um still classifies out after 30 miles hour. So if the the road would have to be it's designated typically for res more residential areas that are 30 mph and less. So with the county road falling in that 45 degree or 45 m per hour.

The recommendation would be this would be just when we're done have a traffic study done on it. The traffic engineer give us the recommendation see what qualifications it fall. If it does post it accordingly. One thing is everybody loves to talk about how roads a detour. If there's ever a time you are pushing that much traffic down our road, that's a lot of traffic with children living that road and animals. I mean to send people down that road going that fast on a beautiful wide road, but also this road hasn't had anything done on it.

We can't we can't ignore that. And the for me the the concern that Gabe had brought up was what we had discussed last time when I asked if there had been any situations in which a vehicle had come off of the road as it sits now and have gotten close to the house. And the answer was no. If we have speed bumps, I think there's a higher likelihood of that actually happening because people would be losing control, especially when it's slick out. There would be a sign. Well, sure, but you're there signs up for speed limits, too. And people ignore those. Yeah. Do you ignore speed bump signs? I'm sure you ignore more speeds. Speed signs. I definitely hit one faster than I should have one

on accident. Yeah. I'd say it's a less likely chance of happening. So it's it's that if it's a perfect sunny day. Yeah. Do you see them? More than likely. Do you see the sign? Yes. If it's impaired road conditions such as snow or ice and then you you know you hit it I think then that's where the extra caution you know you may not have known you're driving fast already if it's nice it's not about speed if especially if it's slick so you know it's if you hit that bump and then it sends a vehicle out of control it's controlled by speed speed limits we can't put them in unless the speed limits under 30 miles per hour you guys are discussing lower to 45 well that was my apolog We're this is a this is the first time we care of care of um and we have a a duty year instead of 55

to do that. Yes. I think that's a discussion that we I think that's a discussion that we will have because we have to draft up something else completely because we have to draft up something else completely. So that's not entirely control. That's so that's not entirely control.

That's a whole another that's a whole speed. I mean I would push a whole another that's a whole another hearing. This is just for whether for whether or not we're doing this part of it because there's another statute. There's other I think there's a whole separate ordinance we would have to file on that. Yeah.

Right. So, that today is just whether or not we're moving forward on the paving here. Um, and what we see from the traffic study or from the the road count is that there are more people than just your families, the folks that are living there traveling that road. Was done as these were put out right when about it.

We did ask for and that's another frustration. I can't speak for this one, but like we were told that we would come back to the drawing board. Everything I would not get. wasn't at the last meeting.

You weren't at the last meeting, but it is that's a standard when we approve them. It has to be 20 ft wide. you guys. We're trying to get away from roads that are narrow that make it difficult for two vehicles to pass because we're trying to upgrade all of our roads. And as you, as was stated earlier, this one hasn't had anything done to it since 2005. Um, vehicles aren't getting smaller. Farm equipment's not getting smaller. Uh, that's our concern. Vehicles aren't getting smaller. And so when you're when you're looking at a road and and going in and pardon me

and redoing it that's our consideration is that we are looking at safety and a road that is the 20 foot is a safer road because of the ability to pass oncoming traffic. Wider roads are safer. People don't get off the edge of the road. They don't hit off the shoulder. there. It's But anyway,

um and then just back to the plans too. Like again, I'm not speaking for us. Um like we haven't seen anything since November. I've seen something from readers. Um and that since then it's changed especially with the Survey. We don't know. So if that's just normal how you guys do it,

what's the structure of it? So Michael, if you showed them the latest ones, I provide you with Okay. So Michael is the one that we at that meeting, you all kind of decided I'd send him plans. He was supposed to follow up with you all. So I mean, but yeah. So the late Michael had the latest ones. It was probably about then

everything else remained the same. So yes, but we can get you Yeah, we can get you the and actually the stakes out there staked that we st back whenever been a long time ago. They were based off the latest design standard. So yeah, we can get it to you. It's no problem. And I said Michael forward to forward a big deal. The whole the whole thing is we want to make sure that everybody's good with the alignment. This is where we're going this how why we're going and then we can work with each individual property own like hey you got any special concerns here you got special concerns here them type of things after

yes because you know it's no use going through ever doing all the minute details and then changing and changing changing. Yes. Yes.

Anything else?

Damn. Anything else? J Brian I don't know this road the only development that I know out there is a hall facility has been you know what I mean that is the only thing that I'm aware of any development that road has been proposed which of course it's approved IDM bit. So, it could happen. You know what I mean? That's the only thing I'm aware of that's anywhere been permitted or complete far as that goes here.

And the battery facility that was previously approved back in 22 isn't isn't around here. Yeah. Yep. It's up on the other side of 74 there. Anything else?

All right. Is there a motion? I make a motion we do the construction as designed by our county highway department. I'll second that motion. All those in favor say I. I. I. Those opposed. Motion carries. All right. Next item 10.

Yes. Uh so I endot did have meeting with end do well was at a meeting. Endot was attending. So they made it very very clear that we need to dot our eyes cross our tees on all our applications anymore that any little thing they're throwing it out they're pulling funding. So we got to get very good on that. So bridge 131 within that bridge I end up missed a deadline made us unqualified to go for reimbursement rightway. So the county requested go back and redo that got rejected. I'd like to go back again and request them relook at that since it was not our fault that deadline got met. It was by the county bridge 131.

Bridge 31 is the one on 200 South out by Black County line. We got closed. So because it was not a factor or a consulting factor of Decar County. It was totally outside of our control that that deadline got missed. I would like permission to go back and ask INDOT again to get reimbursed for the rideway on that project be eligible for that cost.

Yeah, makes sense. So the second thing I have for INDOT is the city put in for unofficial detour on got denied on that. So they've took it their board works. Mr. Claus Camper has he's also took it to the town. Both of them want to reapproach INDOT. I'd almost entertain a motion of go ahead and do a resolution from the county to the state requesting that as an unofficial detour so we go for reimbursement. their their reasoning was they're not closing 74 totally is why we're not eligible for that. But it's a parallel route that we've seen last couple weeks how much it's got utilized different times. There is traffic there.

So I I think you know coming from highway department is one thing if it come from a resolution to K county commissioners might carry a little more weight. Yeah. Absolutely. So that I like to entertain that notion. Yes. Absolutely. Talk with Chad. Thank you. So, uh, on the conversation I 74, we've had conversation with the construction contractor on 74 with having access points. So, right now, they had three proposed access points they want to utilize. Uh, they've come up with a road usage agreement. Chad and I have looked it over. We're both in agreement with it. Okay. So, this will be utilized construction traffic, but it'll also be utilized by copy of that. I was going to say I haven't seen a copy. Chad's got it kind of

So the one the one question was videotaping. They're going to take care of that. The LAR and the

the actual They're going to videotape it. Yes. Yes. In this anticipation next year also when they flip sides there will be access points off the south side to our roads on the south side which be different ones we flip sides interstate. So, Ed, you anticipate probably three locations again next year when we flip sides of interstate when you do that

at the most.

Okay. Chad, you looked over. This looks good. Any questions on the road use?

I don't. And I will add because it's in dock controls through interstate. They have to work with a contractor of how they're going to control that through gates. However they're going to control that, access that interstate. I guess there's one question I did ask. So they got to work out other traffic from getting versus emergency vehicle in your vehicles.

Okay. As far as

Okay. I would I would make a motion to uh approve the temporary right of entry access agreement. I'll second I'll second that motion. All those in favor say I. I. Those opposed. Motion carries.

So Ber energy project we talked about mentioned on Kairo 400 North. Um the development is very good work with since it's been turned over construction. They have not been real responsive. Matter of fact, there's been a few little issues involving them. So as of Friday, they are putting different personnel on it. their responses, fixing roads, doing that, etc. Hopefully they get better. Uh, we're going to find out. So, uh, if not, we'll be back here discuss what the next steps will have to be from a commissioner stands point. They don't get more responsive. So, the signage portion of it did not meet main uniform traffic control devices. We've been in contract. They are now hiring our traffic engineer to go in and figure out the signage, get it up to where it's supposed to be. So, like I said, hopefully with the new change of personnel that things will start moving along a little better, be a little cleaner going. So, um, credit card limit like to raise that. Talked to Christy. I'd like to raise that to 5,000.

What is it currently? 2500. I mean, we had an issue today went by a pal. So, I mean, we can we can raise it just temporarily, but we'd rather do it permanently. So, we're not calling Christie going, "Hey, raise it. Okay. Raise it back again. So, and we do use Huh. Are there more places that we can get terms set up with and as well? Just thinking when you said seed. Yes. Do they do net 30? I'm just thinking of a way to try to avoid the fees.

It isn't just that. The other thing comes into is we can have a account set up at X. Okay. But everybody knows how online is anymore. You can find a lot cheaper at Y. Well, then we have to set an account up with wife that's one time or two time purchases or just put on the credit card and purchase it that way. You know what I mean? So, some of it is that like frequent flyers. Yeah, the frequent flyers we like to stay with it. Um the problem is when you get a charge account hiccup at a at a merchant here in town that we can't charge till it gets worked out. Then when you're down, we can't charge to them or we charge by the credit card. And that's where this

That's what I'm saying. I'm not opposed to the $5,000 increase. I'm just saying that if there's more places that we can have terms set up with to try to save cost when we can. You already have all that. We have all in place. Like this one right here was a hiccup with the accounting it. They couldn't charge to us. We just went to put on the credit card to get it that away. It was above the amount. How often is the highway department's credit card being used? Oh, every month. Because I know most of our stuff comes through. Most of it does, but like I said, there's no special vendor type situation. we buy something here one time situation is a lot cheaper and Amazon

I think you know these guys are responsible they know what they're doing they're I would uh make a motion to to approve their spending limit to 5,000 on their credit card I understand what you're saying Gabe on all those points makes sense I'll second all those in favor say I

moving right along with them we had some good spout good weather did a lot of patching stuff we are back on bridge 167 in Westport so winter hit last year we closed it. We just temporarily opened it up. This year we went back in now that the weather warmed up, doing our approach slabs, getting it all finished up. So, we're moving right along that bushwack. And so, that bridge is is right now slated to be paved April 27th, week of April 27th. So, we'll have that done. Um, as far as our LAR grant, we talked about applying for again this year. We uh Doug and I had met with Walpert in the city and the city's want to do the same type of thing. So there's a very good possibility we'll look at partnering for that grant for them to get their ADA ramps and different things also. So it just let you know there might be a partnership coming down the line with that grant situation.

Uh touch truck North Car Southare went really well. So we did have an RMC training live water demonstration at the highway department. We hosted it. Uh we end up having five other highway departments participate. So as Bethami County, Franklin, Jefferson, James, and Shelby County all sent personnel here to participate in that. RMC picked it up. It's a very good training. It's the same training they actually put on for the public safety personnel. They come in, put it on for the highway department. Saw the pictures. Look like there was quite a few in attendance. I think it's about 75 in attendance there. So yeah, had good turnout and then of course you had good good report with the surrounding counties.

Good. It was a good deal. So the the mutual aid agreements with the towns, Chad's had them, looked over the agreement, we're all good with it. So when we do the hazard mitigation go around, we'll be taking that to them, approaching them about that as well. So very good. So anything else me gentlemen? Thank you for all the information. Thank you for the report. Thanks, Jim. All right, moving on to Abby Harry with Community Corrections. Good morning.

Good morning. Um, I am here today to run over our grant proposals that we send to the Department of Corrections and the Indian Office of Court Services for the different programs that we run. Um, currently the three grants that we apply for through them, they fund all of our salaries, uh, or not all of our salaries, but they are only salary.

They're only applied for for salaries. So, the first one is the probation officer grant, which is currently funded through the Indiana Department of Corrections. um that is our specialty probation officer, if you will, that does your high-risk felony um probationers. Um so we've requested his salary um it's $58,473 we've requested from IDOC on that one. Um the community funds um all the community corrections officer salaries um which are also probation officers. We've been told to expect a 20 to 25% cut this year. Um, so our statewide organization that we call has requested that every county request the funds they use for the entire year. Okay. So, we don't normally request this much funds, but we are requesting $52,816. Um and so what that is that is our yearly budget. Drug screens, electronic monitoring, any treatment, software, anything like that. Um they are trying to do that to show the Department of Corrections the need that is only increasing. Department of Corrections is asking for us to provide more services, more intensive monitoring while they're cutting funding. So that is the purpose of doing that. Um but just so you guys are aware, that is not only salaries in that one grant. Um, and then the last grant is through the Indiana Office of Court Services. It is our wellness court grant, which is also called drug court, problem solving court. Um, it's run out of superior court with Judge Bailey, and that is for a probation officer salary and, uh, benefits per all that fun stuff. Um, it's $127,865 that we're requesting from those. Um, we

expect to see cuts um from IOX and the probation officer grant a little bit. Not as extreme as the comm community corrections grant, but we do expect to see some cuts. It's just kind of the way everything's trending. Unfort Unfortunately, um DOC cut uh last year they cut um the grant a little bit and they cut all the extra grants, prosecutor diversion grant, problem solving court grants, um pre-trial grants. So, community corrections is expected to take the brunt of those cuts this year. So, budgetwise for you guys, how does that factor in? I know. Yep.

Able to continue those services. Yes. So, we have been planning for this for a while because we got we expected these cuts also last year. Um, so we've been planning kind of decreasing um things like that. A couple years ago, we didn't replace a case manager. Um, so we've been planning for them. Um, we've been applying for more local grants to help cover drug testing fees, things like that. Um, we found a a cheaper, more secure um, ankle monitoring system, which we've been on for over a year now, which is fantastic. Yep. Um, so we just making little cuts here or there. Um, training, you know, certain things we're not

um, we're just making little little cuts here and there that are making the difference. Um, but the county picking up our insurance um, was a huge benefit and that's what's allowed us to really be able to continue. This is the problem that POC is causing counties is that they are trying to get people out of prison through different programs and other mechanisms as quickly as possible and it's pushing the burden onto counties. Um so our staffing our staffing requirements are going up,

our monitoring costs are going up and DOC is there already. He's ready to go. Good morning. Morning, Mike.

So, here today to uh see if the you would adopt our resolution for the multi I like that. Any questions?

I do not. Good job, Mike. Working on this. This is good. Yeah, especially once we get it to all of the other towns, right? That'll be great, right?

Right. Good job. Christie, do you have a resolution number? Um 2026-9.

I'll make a motion that we approve the hazard mitigation plan as presented. Second. All those in favor say I. I. And those opposed. Motion carries. Right.

Fantastic. Good work, Mike. Thank you. Oh, and thank you for the the work for the the fairground safety plan, too. Thank you. All right. Up next, we have Lisa and Rob from Centerstone.

Good morning. I'm not actually person.

Thank you. Good morning. Also want to make sure the last that started lasting really staffing two additional tremendous system. Other things

are under the CCP program. One of the things So question So, I talked with Bridget. Um, unfortunately, she said that the way her life is at this point, she has to decline reappoint.

Uh, and so we're going to have to find someone else. So, if there is anyone out there uh that has interest in serving as Decater Countyy's representative on Centerstone's board, uh that would be greatly appreciated. Um we definitely want somebody that is passionate about this area. I know in our conversation that we had a couple weeks ago that you have all different um representatives from different walks of life on your board, but we want to make sure that they have a passion for this. Um, so yeah, uh, we greatly appreciate Bridget's, uh, work and willingness to volunteer over the years, but she had just indicated that, uh, sometimes life changes and gets a little busy. So, I think that's where we're at. So, we have an open appointment if anybody's interested, uh, let us know and we'll be able to reach out.

Also, the the Greensburg Police Department reached out. Yeah, I was just they were they wanted to share that over the past few years that things have have really increased. um Courtney as a local person. Uh but they're very very impressed and have had very good luck and wanted to share that they really appreciate what you do. Yeah. I think that's what I'm

the um county council has asked pointed questions about services and reports. Um, I know that, you know, we've delayed payment for a while and, um, some of that delayed payment has been because of their questions of what what are what are you actually doing for Decar County? Um, and uh, what are your services? Where are you providing those services in those reports? And um, have you heard those questions, concerns? They were they were mentioned to me during during the call. Yeah. Okay.

I I had voiced those. And so when I'm when I'm looking down here on the bottom of this handout on the right side that 34,217 services uh I know I put an emphasis on it being just to county. So those are just to county services. Um and that's for what school year 25 25. Okay. All right. And is that like one individual receiving multiple referrals, treatment types, that kind of thing? Yeah. Okay. Do you have any idea how many actual individuals had participated in services uh that centerstone provides?

That's okay. Yep. 400 active clients indicator county. Okay. How often do you see or what's the fluctuation rate for folks being processed in and processed out?

Gotcha. Very good. That's good info. Well, we we we have a discussion I've had discussion with the the council and and um and sometimes they feel like they're not getting accurate information or reports that they would like to see for the funding. So, this helps us as we move forward, you know. So, this is I don't know if this is more of what we were looking for. Um, okay. You know, jumping back to before you guys were here, um, the numbers that we were getting was just like what Centerstone was doing as a whole, um, in the state, I think is what it was, right? Chad and

Yeah. And so like these numbers with what that was always the bigger question that I remember from the council is what are you doing indicator county okay u and so that's why these numbers are more important to know exactly how many people how many services are being provided

okay good and and having a you as our contact person helps us tremendously because I don't feel like that and again I'm going by hearsay and listening to what the council and previous um that they didn't feel like they were getting the information they were asking for.

So And I and I appreciate what you're doing and and listening to what McNeely just gave us information on how he feels like services have improved, reporting has improved. So, uh I definitely appreciate that. And seeing what the actual numbers are too that are or different activities that are being done. It's good. Any other questions? I do not. Thank you very much. Thank you. We appreciate it. All right, Doug. You did.

Sorry, Doug. I scratched you off early, I guess. All right, Doug Westerfeld, APC. We'll jump back up. Sorry, Leanne. That's okay.

I should get the uh press release. The more that moving forward, there'll be more starting Yeah, there's there have been discussions in the steering committee meetings about different wording and preferences and things like that that's going to be displayed for folks. Uh and so we want people to be able to come and comment on those uh so that we can take that feedback to the steering committee and report on it. Uh see if there need to be some tweaks that are that's done to the comp plan as we're working through it. Um we don't have an active draft yet. So this is part of the input process for for getting to that final product. I was at both those meetings. The the noon meeting and the evening meeting the last time we had the public

and um the noon meeting was pretty good. The evening meeting, I think we had two people. I I don't know what's the best way to go about getting the word out or getting getting because you said it's important to get the public out to this. I don't know. I don't know know how to get more people involved or get them to understand it's important to have their voices heard in this. I think I think we could getting the information out just Is it just the apathy of just I mean we we had help from food. I mean we we had help from the paper, from the radio.

I mean we I think we advertised it. It just it was just I don't know what it is, but it seems like there is apathy about that. I I I don't know if that's the right word to use, but the establishment of the comprehensive plan and that will eventually lead to a critical piece out.

All right. Thank you, Doug. Thanks, Doug. Thank you. All right. Joe Kaine with the board of works requesting an amendment to our bioolids ordinance. Morning Joe.

You'd show up, wouldn't you? We're just asking to testice pretty well and they're pretty is accepting um RVs, campers to come in and dump waste again. Okay.

And we only accept

Okay. When was it? I know it was here in the last couple years that that had stopped. This will be the fourth. My issue when I look at it is I mean if we provide an exception here um where's where do the exception stop um for pretty much anybody that would be potentially applying um and then that completely takes the teeth out of our ordinance if we start providing exceptions um here and there. My inclination would be no. Um we we put it in so that you have to test. We don't dictate that it's it's x number of times a year. It's only when you apply. Um and so my my gut reaction to this um sitting here when we had passed this is um to deny, but obviously you guys have a say.

I'm not opposed to it. I what I worry about is if it's approved for because we can guarantee it's not out of county but then if something changes how do I you know how do we stay up on knowing that I mean with our we have a bioident Our test all over

it's I I would say and I wasn't here when we passed that PAS ordinance, but we know we know the importance of of a limit in our system and I don't know if you can eliminate it, but at least um keeping it as low as possible. And I I'm in the thought of of when you apply, you have to test. I just want to make sure there's not a oneoff, there's not a um you know, we're gonna miss something and and uh you know, it's you apply one year and and there was something in there that we didn't you didn't know about, we didn't know about. And I I just I think it's a smart for us to test every time. And uh and I think it's also helps us with the precedent

of not um missing that on giving somebody else. Well, you gave it to Greensburg. Why can't we have that um that one time do, you know, where you don't have to test? So, I Joe, I just I I get what you're saying. I do understand what you're saying, but I feel like um we would be remiss as responsible for county representatives that if we didn't test every time you every time you you apply, I think it's just smart business for us. I think when you look at the industry or the businesses that we have here, if they change something, um, it could immediately affect what's flowing downstream to you and then is put out. So that's that's really the part of the reason for me that I worry about we can't control the change.

Yeah. We wouldn't know. We wouldn't have I appreciate you coming though and thank you for sending the reports. Fantastic. Thank you. Yes, sir. This is our file coordinatory

business. issue curious curious next comes We would we would definitely consider uh potentially discuss any amendment made by the the EPA. Last one.

And I'll agree with you, Randy, is there's a lot of chemicals out there we don't even know about. But but this one's a known and this one, you know, the POS and so we we've got to make sure, you know, and I if it's if it's gone, then it's gone out of that list. But but currently it's it's on the list. Yeah. So I I'll agree with Jeremy as as that if it would be eliminated from the list, then we could we could look at going back and looking at this ordinance. I was curious. Yeah. I'd want to see some of the the commentary uh for the resention of POS off of that designation by the EPA. Um

sorry, basically our 911 dispatch and we've been working I just look back this Leanne with Barry Ritter. It's been almost over a year now that we've been we've been working on this. But um Barry Ritter is a consultant and he's been working with Leanne to try to get this um interlocal agreement uh approved and we went over several iterations of this and finally came down to um an agreement we all kind of will agree upon the parties. Um and this has been given to uh the city's attorney. It's been given to Chad. We've looked over this. Um there's just a few changes. It's similar to what it was prior other than it it it gives out fiscal responsibilities for the county and for the city with the statewide 911 funds and making sure that those funds are dispersed and then um it's a basic 5050 split with the city and the county. Um it does talk about that we I've given this to you guys. You you've had a chance to look over it. Um it does change where we have an executive committee and an advisory board. And prior to that, we just had an advisory board. We didn't have an executive committee. So, um, the executive committee consists of the mayor. It consists of one city council member, which is Rodney King, one county council member, which is Ashley, and then one commissioner's representative, which is myself. Um, and we don't meet um we meet periodically when there's fiscal concerns or if there's an issue with um employment with an employee. So, um, other than that, the advisory board does most of the managing of this PAP. Um, I think I've covered most of what um, and it's a one-year agreement currently because we, the mayor and I have talked about along with uh, with uh, Dr. King

and Ashley responsibilities and how does that play out in the next couple years with the uh Senate Enrollment Act One and and so we decided to do a one-year agreement um and then see where that after one year where where we at with with because some of those statewide funds and some of that may is subject to change right Leanne we talked about that statewide funds could change but not

also the local income tax you know where does that fall into I think we were concerned about that. So I think it see

local agreements that this isn't new. We've had one for

people involved that it just needed to be part of its metision that needs to be you know, responders that make those decisions and now instead

and I'm going to present this also tomorrow at the county council. because they also need a as a fiscal body of the county to um sign off on it as well. Good deal. So, I would I would entertain a motion to agree the the interlocal agreement. I'll make I'll make that motion. Second. All those in favor say I. I. Those opposed motion carries. Thank you.

Thank you. Also, just while I'm up here. Yes, it is. Awesome. lots of community that has stepped up and just sprinkled a lot of our

Very good. Thank you, Lean. Thank you.

All right, moving on to courthouse tree maintenance. Well, we got a an estimate from Tree Centric and if you'll remember last year, um they came down, Jerome from Tree Centric came down and and uh fertilized the tree, watered watered the tree um through the watering system that is internal. Um because we know that after the courthouse was renovated, the steeple was sealed up. It's not getting the water that it used to get through all the cracks and crevices. So they put a watering system in internally and and he came down and did that last year and now he's given us an estimate to and you guys have seen the estimate there to

it's like pruning um the water. He says that it's not getting the water volume. Yeah. Um so he needs to put an a pump in there to pump the water from because the water actually comes from the um second floor restroom, women's restroom to get I don't know if that's another 50 or 60 feet up to get to the the tower. So he thinks an inline pump needs to boost water pressure um and then fertilize the tree as well. Correct. So,

the pruning of the tree, he is going to charge $900, but we have to get a a crane service or a service to get him up there to prune the tree. I don't know what that's going to cost. I don't know what we paid previously. Do you know, Patty? Um, it got the contact in there. He does have the contact for the crane, but I don't I don't know what's going to cost. This total estimate as you see in front of you is $3,100. $3,160. Um that's pruning, that's fertilizing, that's watering, that's um putting the inline pump and doing doing an overall check of the tree, the health of the tree. So

Dan, you've mentioned having really good hookups on helicopters. Yeah. So, here we are. Yeah. I mean, it I think it's something that we got to do. Can't be the tree city without a tree in our courthouse. What do you think, Bill? Um, yeah. And so, we can figure out how we're going to get them up there, right? Figure that out. Yes. Yes, we've done it before. I would make a motion to move forward with the yearly maintenance of the tree and the installation of the water pump. This this current one. Yep. Right. Okay. I'll second that motion. All those in favor say I.

I. I. And those opposed. Motion carries. Yeah.

Okay. Up next on the agenda is fairgrounds project. Um, so I wanted to present you guys with some information. Um, and then we can have some discussion about where we're going uh with the project. So just quick recap kind of of where we're at on the project. The fairgrounds project is a $4 million uh renovation at the fairgrounds. Um where 1.95 so 1,950,000 came from the state. Um the county was going to initially be responsible for 1.2 million. The remainder was going to come from uh private monetary donations and inind uh donations from the community. Uh if you all recall last year, probably about this time, uh the state had paused ready funding and the project had pretty much already kicked off. So, I had gone to the council, got gotten permission to proceed forward using funds out of edit. We kept that project going for the community building uh and then ready funds came available in September or October of 25. So, the project was able to move forward, but at that point, we had already uh funded a little over $2 million out of Cal County funds um to keep the project going. Uh and so now we have uh tiled the track and the horse arena. We have uh completed the renovation um project and the farm and home bathrooms uh completely renovated and also added HVAC there. Uh the new community building has been completed and we are now moving on towards improving the electrical at the fairgrounds. Um

grandstand bathrooms too. I'm sorry, grandstand bathrooms

out there. Uh, and so where we're at right now with the project is we are at $3,671. Um, and what has been spent on the project so far. Uh, that leaves us uh 328,000. I'll call it 329,000. I'll just round up for a little bit. Um, 329,000 left on the BO. Um, this is where things get a little funny because the county had paid uh above what we were supposed to at the very beginning of the project. Um, the amount that's left on ready is different than the amount that's left on the bot. Um, so it's $519,636.89 left of ready funding from the state. So we have, you know, over a quarter of the funds coming from the state that are available to continue on with the project. The electrical side of the project that's left right now is $470,000. Um, we're also looking at doing improvements to the horse barn for fixing pearlings, posts, the roof, uh, and putting gutters that drain out to the creek to get more water away from the horse arena. Um, then there's also the possibility of landscaping boulders around the um around the new community building. Uh and so all told with additions that also had to be made to the community building, the high water mark for that is what was it?

Look at

yeah $870,000. So when you look at the five 519 that's left and ready and then we have 870 that is left on this project as a whole. Um we have a majority of the funds that are available through ready. Now, when you go back and you look at the funds that have been generated through the fundraising campaign, um we I'm not going to give an exact number just because we have over a quarter million dollars in pledges um that have been made to this project. So, obviously those are contingent on those payments being made throughout the year and you never know with the economy and businesses and individuals if there's a change in in somebody's economic abilities. But we've attained approximately 600,000 in monetary donations that currently sits with the community foundation. Um we have had inind contribution,714 which is amazing. It's it's unreal. Um the inind work that has been has been provided in this project. So currently the total cash available in the community foundation is $617,63062. So when you combine the over 600,000 of the community foundation with the amount of funds that are available from ready, we have over $1.1 million that's available to uh this project. Uh and so we have the funds to cover um the list of the projects that are left on the community project. This would take the um the total project up to roughly 4.3 million I think is the number.

Um which is above what the original four was. and then we can return the additional funds to the um to the county um that are available as those funds continue to come in through donations and pledges pledges.

So when you guys are looking at this list here um the electrical midway paving horse barn improvements landscaping um any any discussion on those? The only thing that I um had talked about was, you know, we talked about landscaping. We had had this little bit of discussion when we had talked with um the construction, you know, like, okay, that's a landscaping, $18,000. I'm out of the loop on landscaping. I have no idea what landscaping cost, but after he's talking about almost 300 linear feet of landscaping, I'm like, okay, well, maybe that's not so bad. I don't know. But um boulders, we talked about gay boulders versus um fence fencing. You know what's And I said, "Well, maybe fencing's cheaper." And he's like, "Well, if you do vinyl fencing, you might be more than that um for 300 line." Well, it wasn't 300. It was about 275 lineal feet. Excuse me. Um so I don't know. They just when I saw that's a rock, you know, how can it $18,000 for rocks? But it isn't. And I think that's ripping the because it's all just seated too, you know, but and that's we got to tear that base out, you know, add some type of material, put put decorative rock down, but also the larger rocks if that's the route that we decide to go.

That was the only the only thing I looked at, you know, when I was looking through those those prices. And that's, you know, out of 870,000, it's 18 minimal amount of that. And we're going to have some type of landscaping or some type of the whole idea was a burn. what if anything we do there around the community building um in between the road and the parking lot. I'm looking at it from a maintenance standpoint as well. Yeah. Um because then you're

say you put rock down, we're increasing, you're going to have to walk around with a sprayer. Um because eventually your liner is going to get cut or whatever and you're going to have dandelions growing all over. um or if we we put down just big boulders, you're weed eating around them if you don't have something else below them. I'm it's it's more difficult than just running a mower. Um for me, at this price, I would avoid the landscaping. Um I would leave it the way it is now. Um

later, I get driving through it is a concern. There's other areas on that fairgrounds that I mean going all the way down 200, we don't have we don't have a a fence or a burm or something that keeps people from just pulling out. Um my inclination right now is we we forget about the landscaping. Um we can address something later. I know if you look down through the sheet that was emailed to us, one of the inkind donations was planters. We could even place some planners there. Now the issue for me with planners is somebody has to weed them. And I I know how I feel about weeding the the flower pots around my house. Uh

so yeah, I mean same thing. But we do have something that if you wanted a fix that's immediately available that would cost us nothing. We do have the planters that could be placed there. For me, the landscaping is is more of a luxury than I see the rocks as a little bit of a hard stop, too. You know, there's people in that office. You know, there's it's not Yes, of course. speed shouldn't be an issue, but crazy things happen. That's true. So, I see that. That's my concern. That's why I like the big boulder idea was it it's going to stop a vehicle from from going into the building potentially. Yeah. We talked about some post around the electrical panel. They are doing that

and things like that. And it's, you know, to try to protect things. But, you know, the the grain bin sits really close to the to the intersection, too. So, that's the reason I like the rocks. And they are putting the ballards around the um the water tank and also the electrical that's there on the north side. The advantage is we have it in the budget. It's there. Um I if if we eliminate it, will we ever do it? You know, is it is it somewhere down the line that we're like, well, we can't find the money for this. Yeah, I like right now it's it's here. It's in it. We it's maybe maybe it's the time to do it now and get it done. Knock it out.

We can keep it in. Uh and obviously I have to go to council tomorrow to discuss the same topic uh since we'll be above the the original $4 million amount. Um but my my inclination is still that we don't do it. We can leave it in the budget, but I would still lean towards not doing the landscaping right now.

Um and then let's discuss the midway paving. Um, it has $200,000 here for midway paving. Um, I know I had seen some bids without talking specific numbers. Um, is that something that you guys want to bid out uh ourselves as commissioners or do you want to leave that in um in the BO? The advantage I think to leaving it out, taking it out and doing the bid ourselves is I think that it could be cheaper um than what we're seeing here. Um what do you guys think?

Well, I I expressed that I felt like we should leave it in there only because it gets it has a um I don't know. Is that worth it um for us to try to manage that paving and make sure it's done correctly versus um having who's managing that from the B side? It would it would be that'd be Scott. I mean, do they is that in their wheelhouse? I mean, as far as paving and I mean they're subcontract subcontracted it out. So, they would make sure that it followed all the guidelines and all the

that's the way I understand it. and and if if it um I don't know where it falls in the the sizewise um and how does this how does that water or manage the water mitigation is going to trigger the the water drainage ordinance. Okay. So I know that um uh Barnes said he would take um somebody else a highway department that can also run tile to adequately no for mitigation. I I don't know. Um, we have tile on the hill on the side of the hill there. And I don't know if I've talked about what exactly the p the midway paving is here at a commissioner's meeting, have I? Oh, not at a meeting.

Okay. So, um, what it is is we were approached um, by lures with a request to pave the midway. Um, and they provided us with a diagram of just a path.

Yeah. Of what it is. It's basically a big loop and then down by the um OA building there is a larger paved lot and this would open up in the grass areas with people walking on the paved surfaces so that when you get that guaranteed uh fair weak rain in the middle of the afternoon, you aren't dealing with a muddy midway the whole rest of the week. um it will be uh more ADA accessible than what we have now for wheelchairs and strollers because you're actually going to be on asphalt. Additionally, having this paved area will increase the available parking at the fairgrounds. Uh which is something that with the new community building, we have um had to address or look at how we're going to be able to bring in this number of people to the fair. So, by having more hard surface, we would be able to provide more parking to the community building. So, we're looking at it from a couple different avenues. I think it'd be a major benefit to Power of the Past. It'd be a big benefit to a number of other events that use up the entire fairgrounds out there, uh, that are all up along paved surfaces.

So, that's backstory on on that project. Paving on the paving part of it. Yeah. Um, I don't have a preference. I see the benefit of both. See the benefit of barns management. I see managing it. I see the benefit of us. Yeah.

20 foot. It looks like 20 foot is like the majority of the walkway space there, Bill. Um there are areas that are wider for um different areas. So like where the the food vendors are down towards the OA building. Um that's a wider space it looks like right through there. Um and it looks like when you're on the south side of that building it also gets a little bit wider. So yeah, but roughly 20 foot for a majority of

the loop around like in the midway that's about 20 feet I think the width of that

um I mean we're we definitely got a better price than initially from um Barnes on what this was going to be. I that's been part of the discussion. And it ended up being that the like conduits or or boxes were not going to be included because then you're going to have to have um higher costs and additional draining. Like if you're putting a box in or you're you're running a a conduit where it's going to be depressed in the ground. um you're going to have more standing water issues. And so the recommendation from the fair committee and then on through discussions um was that they can run their electrical lines over and still use the mats that they had been using. Um but that way we aren't having to deal with more drainage issues, more structural issues.

Trench trench box or cut through there. Yep. No, we had talked about it and um I think one of the fair committee members had actually contacted lowers if u they were good with that as well. And yeah, it's one week out of the year. Yeah. And it's it's one of those things that I think it'll be very usable for us for other events as well. And we don't necessarily that type of box or conduit underneath the asphalt.

Okay. So, it would have to be a requirement that they work with um the highway department and stay in compliance with any uh water drainage ordinance. If if you if you feel like we're going to do a substantial savings, I would be okay with taking it out of the BO if that's if that's the way you're leaning. I mean, I don't know how high at the end of the day when you look at bonds and those kinds of things. I don't know how high it's really going to be as far as a substantial savings. That's only my concern. I think the the landscaping is probably a higher savings than what pulling this out of the BOT would be.

Um I think if we cut landscaping we we more than save for whatever type of markup there may be in the BO here for paving. Um so I mean that's it would definitely be a benefit as far as a management as far as a bonding and insurance side that it stay in the BO. That's that's so we don't have an increased cost, right? Um, stay in. You want to stay in? Okay. All right. Make a motion to approve this.

I'm looking to see if there's anything else on here that I wanted to to discuss. This is the amendment from Yeah, they Marts, right? That we need a Well, I'm not I won't sign the amendment yet. Um because I need to get word back from the council.

Okay. on what it is, but on I think it was 417 uh either Sandy or Scott at Barnes Construction had sent us the u latest amendment on that fee schedule. And just so everybody's clear on it, all of these numbers are max numbers. Um there's several areas that we believe are actually going to come in under, but they are max numbers. There's a $50,000 contingency as well that could be that can also be eliminated. eliminated as well. Right. Right.

So once I uh go to council tomorrow, we'll know more about where we're going. Um but our recommendations are going to be that we move forward with authorizing this fee schedule and we can decide whether or not we're going to do individual projects later. Is that correct? That's going to be our recommendation to the council. Yes, that's that's what I would assume. Yes.

It's possible. Um I think part of it is just the size of some of the equipment and long-term productivity of it. But yeah, that was one of the discussions that had been brought up.

Anything else? We'll um wait to hear about from the council, right? Y Okay. All right. Park board appointment. Second swing at it. Um, we had become aware after the last meeting that our appointee had moved out of the county very very recently. Uh, and I think we all would prefer to have a uh board appointment that lives in Decar County. Uh, so here we are for round two. So we had a total of three individuals that were uh interested in being the county's representative on the park board. That's correct.

First time. Uh, so we have two remaining. something to you moving it back up, right? Yeah. Would you rather do that, Gabe? Well, just to make sure that those folks are a still interested. Okay. And works for me. That would be my preference. All right. So, we'll do it at the next meeting. I'm good with that. Yeah, that works. Open it back up for interested or if the folks that have put in previously are still interested, please let us know that. I like that. That works. All right. Anything else from you guys? Um, no, I don't have anything.

Project still chugging along. Um, we recently hit uh I don't have the exact numbers in my book, but uh 4.2 a little over 4.2 million funds raised out of the 4.5. So, we're about 274,000 last time I checked short of being uh completely having all the funds raised um throughout the community. So, we did send uh 120 letters out to any to all businesses that had not uh donated anything to immediately. We received a a $5,000 check, $1,000 check a day or two later. And so, so things are still chugging along. Still pretty hopeful. Um that we can raise the entirety of those funds. Progress construction's fully underway.

Still looking at the June time time frame.

Still looking at June 1st. All right. I will say that I I did did have an an engineer look at the um the armory the parks department building um just do a uh we had some concerns about the stability of the building with some foundation issues and um had Nathan Wamsley come and look at that a building in structural engineer and his overall assessment of the building is it is safe. It is not um there's there are some issues or joists and some minor things that need to be some repairs some repairs around the the outside of the foundation but overall the stability of the building is structurally sound. It is safe. Um that was my big concern you know you know of of a collapse or a wall moving out or something and having a major issue with um being undermined by water and flooding from previous events. But his his he's he's going to give us a a full draft, but the verbal so far from what he's he's shown or he's seen is that the building is structurally safe. Are there some things need to be taken care of? Yes. And so that'll be decided later from us, you know, what we want to do with that building. But um building is structurally safe.

That's good to know. Do we want to go ahead and get some of the floor joist and stuff taken care of? Well, that's something that we we need to decide, you know, moving forward. you know, where do we I haven't been over there to see it myself, but I've heard that there was some past fixes that may not be as Yeah, there's there's and as I walk through and with the there are a few floor joistices that have some issues that need to be repaired. Um, yeah, it it's it can it can become a money pit, you know. Good to hear that the wall hasn't displaced more than it already was before. It has. So that's very good.

And and actually the wall has never displaced. I thought it had moved out where you actually there was verbiage that has said that, but there is a crack in the foundation. Okay. But it is none of the the actual wall and this would be the north wall has not moved um at all. But there is a crack in the foundation that needs to be looked at and maybe fixed. But it is not moved. It is not heaved. It hasn't sunk. Um so good. That's his his recommendation, his his visual look at it that he thinks it's there there's some we're going to have to put some money into it. Don't don't get me wrong there, but it structurally it's okay.

Chris, anything from the parks department? Good. Brian EDC So that is a heat capture

at the pipeline. Doug, anything from you? Anything else, Ken? Sure. I know we didn't get to you last time, so that's okay. Last meeting was

I just got a couple things. Uh, so hired in last year in May and This is almost completion of my one year part-time full-time as your BSO. I just want to give you a little bit of an update. So, since that time, I have personally talked to um and inputed into our system at at least 189 to 200 veterans that have come into my office that I personally work with. Um and uh and there's been others where they've come in and just had information or something like that. they wanted um in phone calls, but personally have touched at least 200 veterans records and worked on giving them their benefits uh that they they are entitled to for being veterans. Uh so that's pretty cool uh to see that and so thank you for giving me that opportunity to be able to do that for our veterans in our community. Um and I've seen some good stuff and I've seen some bad stuff. Uh the last couple weeks have been sort of good week but bad week because I've had some veterans some some surviving spouses come in that because they're veteran never did anything with the VA they had no benefits and that breaks my heart to sit in front of a surviving spouse and say I can't help you

um because your husband didn't do anything. So getting the word out to these women just let me sit there and talk to them and try to figure out what we can do for them is huge. um especially a surviving spouse that maybe is in their 70s and this may have been just the extra money that they needed to be able to help get them through um living alone. So, but I appreciate that and that's just a little bit of information for you uh for me. Um, the next big thing uh coming up and I've talked with Christie and her team about the new Indiana veteran property tax reform that's coming out. You haven't had a chance to see this or you don't know what it is. It's brand new. Uh we're going from a property tax deduction to a property tax credit. And at one time there was an assessed value on your property. So any veterans that had a property I think is assessed at $240,000 for this. Well, now they've eliminated that and so all veterans will be um the kicker to this and I'm sort of happy but going oh my this may be crazy is that every veteran even if they have this tax deduction already uh has to come in and renew. They have to come to my office. every veteran, every surviving spouse has to come back in and redo the entire form. It's not automatic. So, um that could be crazy in my office uh between July and December of this year. Um and so we're trying to get the word out. How do I get the word out? Yeah.

Um and so we're trying to figure that out. Is it a mass mailing? Is it just to the property owners? Is it to everybody? My preference would be to every household just hit veterans that may not my office exists within our county and hopefully get more veterans in. But I also know that that's going to be a mad rush of people coming into my office for a oneman show, which is okay. It'll be fine. Um, but this is this is huge and I and the state is still working on the forms. They haven't got an answer on us yet. Um, I've got a meeting on Wednesday, uh, a quarterly meeting with my district officer and we're going to talk about it. We also have a meeting June uh for a whole training for all the VSOs uh across the state. We'll be talking about it then, but we're still waiting for further guidance from the state in the forms that they're going to be using. So, um and I've already had people calling me for this and I've actually turned away veterans who's wanting to fill out for their property tax just because I I'm going to do it again. So, no sense in you coming in and doing it. Um and so I think that's what I told the girls over there is just I wouldn't process because we're going to redo them all and it be okay.

Is that renewal yearly or is it just because of this new law? I think it's because of the new law. Okay. So once they do it this time, they shouldn't have to do it until there's another change coming. Until there's another change is my understanding on it. Um so it's going to be a pretty big uh adventure and and time consuming to get it all done. It's not hard,

but it's still just something that we have to do for every veteran and every surviving spouse that might be out there. Um, but it'll be okay. But again, I just want to give you an update. Appreciate the support you guys given and everyone in the county of sending veterans and referring them and giving my business cards out so they can come to me because it's it's great to see these veterans finally getting them. Awesome. You're doing fantastic. Thank you, K. Thank you, Kim. Sheriff, just real quick, I shot you an email late last week. Oh yes.

Yes. I think we should. I think so. Thank you, Sheriff. Abby, anything else? No. Tim, anything else? Mike, anything else? Ian, anything else? Janet, Trisha, anything.

And where can they find those Saturday uh voting locations? They get online. I know she just said that, but just in case she didn't get picked up by the microphone. County website has any of the uh polling locations for somebody to come in and vote, right? Yes. Okay. Very good. Davis for helping me set up early.

Awesome. Thank you.

How is your progress of your painting floor all that going? So, he's still in progress. Obviously, he gets pulled different directions. Yeah, it's in progress, but it's okay. Good. May All right. Thank you. Thank you, Brenda. How are things at the shelter? At this point, we're waiting on the kitten to start a little bit.

What is the update on the capital? Yep, that was on my list. I saw that we just paid um Heath Dylan an amount for the month. Yes. Right. At this point in time we have lost two. Okay. We have gained one. So what is what do we look at moving forward like what is the final what what is the

what's the end goal here is to give those cattle back to sell the cattle to what is what is an end game here for us. So as we stand the owner has continued to pay the care. Okay. which prohibits dise all that is going on. prosecutor's office did file criminal charges against him. Oh, okay.

Which are pending currently set for trial early May. I would expect that. Um so as the caravan keeps posting we as part of the criminal case statute allows part of a not anymore So terms of entirely in our hands of criminal case until kind of mult.

Okay. So, is is his care bond is it enough to cover what we're paying currently? It was calculated based upon the perhead rate we were given. So it's essentially meant to be exactly what bond is. The first one was significantly higher account.

Okay.

Very good. Thank you. Anything else from the shelter? All right, Christie. Anything at the auditor's office? No, not at this taxes are coming in. Um, it would have been nice if timing could have been a little better with the veterans. We could have sent out that with our tax bills, but it just didn't coordinate. So, yeah, we will look at doing a mass mailing according to whenever Ken gets information. All right, there's nothing else. I'll entertain a motion to recess. So moved. We are recess. I need your signature on this.

Oh, we good to see you. Maybe thinking also I brought my boss with me to that gentleman. But yeah, we'd love to work with you if that's something you want to do. Yeah. Yeah. We'll we'll keep seeing. Thank you very much. Just got picked from