City Council - Special Meeting
The Carmel-by-the-Sea City Council held a special meeting for a closed session concerning the CET Administrator. Public speakers urged for more open discussion and community input on the recruitment process. Despite these concerns, the Council voted to proceed with the closed session as scheduled.
About this meeting
- Government Body
- City Council
- Meeting Type
- City Council
- Location
- Carmel-by-the-Sea, CA
- Meeting Date
- August 24, 2026
Transcript
46 sections
Let's do some stretching.
Namaskaram. Today is Monday, August 26th, 2026. We are at the Carmel Bay The CCT Hall. I am calling Carmel Bay The CCT Council on this special occasion, 30 minutes after 1 pm. Can I call the CET clerk, Devai Hajar?
Sure. Council Angam Baran.
Here.
Council Angam Beater.
Here.
Council Angam Ram. Here. Mayor Ben.
Here.
Quorum has been approved. Good. Thank you.
Before we begin, let's remind the public that this is a hybrid meeting. You can take part in it via Zoom, or you can visit the city's YouTube page to see the latest updates. Nova, can you please read out the public's feedback for the special events? Sure.
In special CET Council meetings, the public will receive feedback on the topics included in the agenda. After discussing each topic in the agenda, the public's feedback on the main topic will be heard. If it is not processed in another way, each speaker will get three minutes to speak. The name is not mandatory, but this will help to recognize the speaker in minutes. The Brown Act regulations do not regulate online or directly mute participants.
Thank you. There is only one thing in today's agenda. This is a closed session. So, I need to talk to CET attorney Brian Purikin about the closed session. After he makes that statement, we can accept the public opinion. Thank you, Mayor.
This is a closed session according to the Government Code section 54957. This is about the laws of the public. CET Administrator is the witness. Thank you. Okay, now it's time for the public opinion. Thank you for coming here this afternoon.
There are two people in the audience. I think there is no one online.
Okay, I am Nancy Tommy, a resident of the city. Since this is a public issue, I think my opinions are related to the CET Administrator Act. So, if these opinions do not match the topic, I apologize. But in that respect, we will accept your opinion. That's right. My two opinions are these. I would like to know if there will be a community input session for the public to give their suggestions related to this law. Therefore, it would be very good if a decision is made. As you know, our calendars are very busy in September and October. Therefore, I think that if that decision is made as soon as possible, more people from the public will take part. Then, another thing, if it is possible as I said earlier, I will send you some of my suggestions related to the skills, skills, and skills of the employees. It will be helpful when you test them in the coming months. So, I would like to remind you that it is still available and that it will be included in your program. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you, Nancy, for participating in this program. We appreciate it. Hello.
Hello, Christy Ramez. I would like to talk briefly about choosing the next CET Administrator. As Nancy Toomey said, it is clear that the public is very interested in becoming a part of this process. As far as Karmel is concerned, this is a major decision. The person you choose will play a big role in the future of our community. I can understand that some business discussions need to take place in secret. According to the Government Code 54,957 on today's meeting agenda, a special government official's regulation allows closed sessions to be held for jobs, public services, vacations or retirement. However, in the video of the city on Friday, Marika said that she was preparing a recruitment brochure for today's closed session recruiter. But the agenda says that the CET Administrator is allowed. I think this meeting is for some reason. I understand that you are preparing a recruitment brochure to find a special employee here and not to use it to find that person. So I'm asking you, didn't this discussion first take place in a community input meeting and then you were able to do it yourself in a closed session? Thank you.
Thank you.
Can I ask a question to the CET Administrator if I can finish the presentation from the public?
Yes, we can finish the public comments here and move on to the questions from the Council. Continue. Thank you. I meant CET Attorney.
Since we are hearing comments from the public, I have received some emails that say that this should take place in an open session. I don't think I'm saying too much, but we have had discussions on this issue. That is, can we consider this as an open session in the next council meeting next Wednesday? Because I think it is important for the participation of the community and this process to be in the best condition. A public representative said that if we don't do this, we will complain about brown art. So, Deva, can you give us your advice?
Another thing is, some questions have been asked. Do you think it is right for someone else or someone else in the Department of Discipline to give clear answers? These two things will help to resolve this situation. Still, say, Brian, okay, let's first give the questions to the public. I have listed two questions about Nancy. One, she asked if the sessions that allow the public to comment on this law are ongoing. I think that's the first question. Let's look at them one by one. I'm not sure if this question should be asked to Brandon or Marissa. Yes, according to the Brown Act, you have the right to respond in short. So, this is the time to return the first question to Marisa. After that, we can move on to the next question. Okay, good. Come Marisa. Thank you for returning. No problem. Is the first question about the community meeting?
Okay, that's what I thought. The community forum is scheduled from 1 to 3 p.m. on Saturday, September 4. I will send the flyer to Nancy. It has been included in the bill last Friday. So it will happen. The purpose of that forum is to seek the opinion of the community about the capabilities and characteristics of the CET Administrator who is to come. Wendy Brown, who was chosen by the council to implement this recruitment process, will be in charge of it. I understand that there will be an open session in your agenda on September 1 to discuss the recruitment process and its status. If September 1 is an agenda in a council council, the recruitment process will explain more about where it came from. I don't think I can explain this in more detail.
Okay. Okay. Good. Thank you. Then I think these were the questions we received. Okay. I have a question related to this. But you can continue. Then I asked about creating a brochure from Christy's part, about the purpose of yoga, and seeking the opinion of the community. Therefore, my suggestion is not to take any final decisions in today's closed session. Take decisions only after hearing the opinion of the community at the Council Yoke on September 1. The Yoke on September 1 is not the Yoke on September 4. It is the Yoke on September 1. Okay. Certainly, you can ask for feedback from both sides. However, my suggestion is that you should seek feedback from the community on the rules of the lay yoga on September 1. Okay. According to my understanding, a draft meeting of the brochure will be held in the pocket. When you look at it from the point of view of the public, all this is happening quickly. We are trying to get rid of it quickly. That's why we...
Yes, September 1 is intended to inform the community about the recruitment situation. The brochure is being prepared in it.
Then, when the Wednesday packet comes out, they will be able to see the brochure.
Yes, because by that time we will have a clear draft.
That is, they can get a general opinion on the agenda on the 1st. They can ask if there is anything to add or if there is any doubt.
That's right, Mayor. Because recruitment activities have not started officially so far. Okay. So there is still a chance.
Yes.
So it's the same as the general discussion that was held on September 4, right?
That is correct. Yoga.
Yes. Then what is the difference between these two? What is the speciality of yoga on September 4th? Will it still change in the brochure or will the brochure be over by that time? Okay. On September 4th, that brochure will not be affected.
Because things will be decided in the yoga on September 1st. But the selection process will take place only after the recruitment has started, right? Therefore, I would like the recruiter to be able to speak more clearly about this for a while. However, when inspecting applicants and employees in the recruitment process, the community's opinions will change.
Yes, even if the brochure is not like that.
It is just to conduct brochure recruitment. Yes, let's start that. Yes. Okay, good. Okay, I think it has made it clear in a lot of things.
Thank you for that. Does anyone else have any questions?
That is, there is still a question from the attorney that whether we can vote in the open session that will be held on September 1st to include it in today's closed session. You can take that decision. Okay, thank you.
Yes. That is, I have similar opinions. I think so too. Yes. This is the most logical interpretation of the law, as said by Brown Act. If you are talking about certain people, if you are presenting their statements, if you are talking about the law, if you are talking about employment, if you are talking about real estate, all of that should be in a closed session. I would like to say that you should not include unnecessary things in a closed session. So, there is a possibility that a meeting will be held on the 1st of next week. We will have to hold that meeting to finalize the payment. Yes, I understand that the unpaid brochure cannot be put out. So, I don't think it will be of much use. I feel a little uncomfortable about it, because of the things I said earlier. So I think it's better to wait until next week. Okay, Jeff. I've been telling you from the beginning that we have to complete these things in a very short time. Things have to happen in the right order. So I think it's better for us to move forward now. My dream is to start recruiting in November and lose time in December. It's going to be a long evening. If I don't finish my session today, do you think I'll be able to stay for a week? Recruiting is the most important thing for me. I plan to extend it to the next week. It creates efforts. Okay, I understand that. Marisa, can you come again? Because you are looking at our calendar, right?
If we don't hold a meeting today, will it take things back a week? If we don't hold a discussion today, it won't be beneficial. Because, as you saw, we haven't completed this process even after a month. It will be helpful to complete the discussion today by September 1st for the previous meetings on September 2nd. If any suggestions come from the Chowalcha community and changes have to be made in the brochure, it will be a reason to continue the discussion. So, my pleasure is to complete your discussion today.
Yes, I think everyone thinks that we don't need a meeting today. You're not holding a meeting today, are you? Jeff, we can hold a meeting today. On Wednesday, the public will be present. On Monday and September 4th, they will participate in the meetings. So, we will get a lot of feedback from the public. Today, in the closed session, I reject the staff's opinion that something needs to be done. I agree to hold a meeting, but now there are only two votes left. What do we do now? I hear what the public is saying. But I think we will be able to complete some things today that will help us manage the time frame. It is not here. Both the votes are in agreement. Let me tell you with respect, there is no objection in the process now.
That is, we have already decided to go to the closed session. So, if you want to go to the closed session, you can approve it as an objection. Then the voting will take place and Pramayam will be defeated. That's what I came to say. I was waiting to announce that Pramayam. I got the opportunity to speak to everyone. I was just waiting to confirm. Certainly, you will announce the Pramayam. Therefore, I suggest that this matter should be discussed publicly at the CET Council Yoke on September 1, which is today's closed session. I request. Voting can be conducted. Devaai. Council member, Beater. Yes. No. Yes. No. Yes.
Yes. Yes.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Yes. Then we are going to have a closed session. Yes. No. Okay.
So we will stop the advertising and go to the closed session. Then... We will go to the closed session. At this time...
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