City Council - Regular Meeting

This council meeting will now come to order. Would you please uh stand for the pledge of allegiance and remain standing for invocation given by Councilman Elmore. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Back to Father in heaven, we come to you today to ask that you guide us and that you provide wisdom and support us as we proceed through this meeting. We ask that you give us clear minds and allow us meaningful discussion so that we may honor your will. Finally, we ask that you allow us to come together and nurture the bonds of our community. In Christ Jesus name we pray to you. Amen. Amen. Thank you, Councilman. Good evening everyone. I'd like to welcome the members of uh Conway Springs, Mayor and Councilman meeting tonight. Everybody else out there. Uh Heidi, can I get roll call, please? Sure.

Miss Antonich here. Mr. Elmore here. Uh, Miss Grace gave prior notice. Mr. Haye here. Miss Lucas here. Mr. West Morland here. Mayor Sora, I am also here. All right, Mr. Mayor. Yes. Like to make a motion to amend the agenda to add the EMS agreement this evening. I need a motion to second. Move to approve. Second. Second. Second. We have a motion to second. All those in favor? I. All those opposed. All right, audience participation. We have Mr. Zack Cooper, director of Summer Campus College.

Well, good to see you all again. Uh, spring's well underway with us at Cali College. And I've got the some official numbers that I was able to pull off this morning. Uh, so looking from last spring, we had about 42 full-time equivalent students. And when I look at this year, where we're at right now, we're at 56. So, we had a 14 uh full-time equivalent increase from last spring to this spring, which I am really glad to see that happening. Um, just kind of shows that as we continue growing, uh, we're going to continue making projects that make keeper on the campus as well. And that is only students going to our campus for classes. That's not including any of the uh, high school classes that are happening within the high school itself. Um, we did finish up some dirt work around the red building, so the water sheds away so we can and we've got a floor in there now. Uh, so that was one of the projects for the pollinator pro that we're trying to get done. We also got the fence as of this afternoon. They got the gate put up. So we have a fenced off area for the pollinator program as well. And so we'll move forward with planting soybeans in the summer and also doing the pollinator seed in December time frame as long as everything goes correctly. In the meantime, we are going to be busy with campus in August or in August, sorry, in March. Uh, we will be hosting the South Central FFA district a mechanics contest. So, we'll have about 120 students from South Central Kansas coming to do some welding, small gas engines, electrical, and a few other skills and testing their uh fellow students to see who is the better at those individual skills in each category. We're also planning out our spring robotics in April, the 22nd and 23rd. Registrations already went out for that, so we're ready to see some more middle school students. It is a very long day, but it is really worth it if you get a chance to come by and see that. Um, and we are also planning our difficult airway course training in May. So, if you have anyone who's on EMT or paramedic who wants to get certified in that, reach out to Chris Cannon. They can get you guys registered for uh that advanced airway training. Um, which again, life-saving training life. Why not go ahead and try looking into a

little bit more? Um, last time I was here, I mentioned our Eery, we did offer a 25% off on Mondays if you're a student or a faculty member. And Thursdays, we're still doing 25% off for first responders. So, if you want breakfast or lunch, come in 8:30 to 3:30 every day that the college is open and you get a nice little discount there. Um, and then the last thing for the college, I just wanted to say thank you to the mayor and to the city manager on having conversations with Cali College on the welcome to Wellington sign and seeing if we can find a place for that in the future. Um, I know our administration and our board of trustees are excited about these conversations and seeing where it can go in the future. So, thank you all. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Please, please tell the board thank you. I do I do appreciate it. Be more than happy to. So,

any questions? Can I come out and watch watch the plants grow in the greenhouse when you get that going? Uh yeah, actually today uh I dropped off some soil with our a teacher because he's actually getting ready to do a unit on germination on different kinds of soil. So, he had me get some sand, some clay dirt, some potting soil and all that. So I can get with him and get you more specifics on when he's planning to do those individual units and we can we can make arrangements from there. Well, I I'd just like to come out and watch them periodically, you know, as they as they start germinating and growing slowly. Yep. Mhm. I'm actually It's that time of year where I'm just ready for plants to be planted in general and get going.

Yeah. I start in March with all my seeds and things like that. Yep. I know my bees at home, they're already going to maple trees. They're starting to bloom. So, it's it's in the air. We're ready for it. Probably a little too early. Kind of scary for me. Some of the worst ice storms I've seen have been in April. Hopefully not this year. Bad. So, uh, but just, you know, I'd like to watch them, you know, and out of curiosity and of course plants and we'd be more than happy to have you out there. here. So, like I said, I'll get with uh Marlin, our act instructor, and we'll we'll get kind of a more of a timeline and we'll we'll get something arranged. That'd be great.

That'd be great. Thank you, Zach. Thank you. Any other questions for Kelly College? Uh the welcome to Wellington sign, is that the one um that originally was going to go in the roundabout and we've been looking for a place for it. Do you know uh so um sounds like the discussions are just now starting. Do you know when you guys might have a decision on that? So unless if Jeff would like to step in on this, I believe what we're waiting on right now is for clarification from KOT on some questions. Uh but do you want to add anything else on that, Jeff?

No. Uh I I can add a little bit to the discussion. So uh there is some question based on the permitting guidelines whether this falls under advertising or gateway monumentation. So we've asked K for some clarification. Uh currently our district does not have a area engineer. So, uh, getting those responses has been a little tough. So, we're asking PEC to maybe help us out and see if they can use their contacts to get it up the chain a little faster. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Thanks, Jason. We're going to have to run some electricity out there or something. You we were talking about that here a while back. Yeah, we've we've talked to some people and kind of looked it over. I think we can make it work if we need to.

Okay. All right. Good. All right. Uh, Zach, don't go anywhere because I guess next is uh the travel and tourism grant recommendations. Zack Cooper, chamber president. Yep. So, sorry for your luck. You have to deal with me twice today. Um, so the chamber board uh set a committee and we went ahead and went through the grant applications for the travel and tourism grant. And so in your packet, you will see what our recommendations are for this year. Um, if you have any questions, let me know. But um you should be able to see the seven different uh participants and the award mounts that we uh deemed a good commercial on YouTube too about Cali College here

really. But we try to do some good stuff make it eye catchy once in a while. So and speaking of YouTube go back to robotics we do have videos now for robotics so kids now know what the contest is going to Intel and what they have to do for uh troubleshooting. So, if we're if you want to be a judge, we'll give you the YouTube link and then you can be an awesome judge for that contest. But now back to the chamber. Sorry. Okay, Jeff, do you have anything on this at all?

No. Uh, so I will point out that typically what we do as part of our agreement with the chamber to be the convention visitors bureau. They accept the applications. We just allocate the dollars to them and they have a committee that makes the recommendations. money's budgeted, but uh we annually have the chamber come before us to make the recommendations after their committee reviews the applicants from uh the community for the funds. So, I need a motion. One quick question. Um how's the total this year compared to previous years? Jeff, we budgeted the same last year versus this year. Thank you. Same every year. Okay. Okay. Move to approve. Second. I second.

Okay. Uh, all those in favor? All those opposed? All right. Thank you guys. Okay. Next, we have the consent agenda, approval of minutes, uh, approval of appropriations, uh, receipt of council correspondence. Uh, I need a motion. Move to approve. Second. Motion and a second. All those in favor? I. Those opposed. Uh, okay. We'll go to reports of mayor and council. I'll start with Councilwoman Antinich.

Oh, tonight I' I'd like to thank our department heads, all of them. It can't be easy doing what you do. It's a lot of responsibility with the employees that work under you. I see department heads out doing things with the employees. It's very impressive and I just thought you know what a job that is and uh we have wonderful employees here and our department heads especially at budget time last time I don't know whether I remembered to compliment on the enormous amount of work you did and cutting and cutting and cutting down to the quick uh has to be hard when you know you need these things. And my next comment is March 3rd, get up and go vote. You can vote early at the courthouse now. Polls are open from 7 to 7. Just go vote. That's all I have. Councilman Elmar,

do you have anything?

Yeah. Um, I'd like to second what Council Member Antinich said there about the uh the bond vote. Um, I was in there the other day and was in and out in a matter of minutes. So, it's it's super easy. I encourage everybody to get out there and exercise your civic responsibility. Um, I did want to thank uh Jeff and his team and anybody else uh in the city who um both communicated uh the Woods Park Donut Bay closure and then uh worked to get it reopened. I know a lot of community members sincerely appreciate that. Um a lot of pets appreciate that. So, thank you again. Uh and do appreciate the way you guys again clearly communicated that. Uh finally, I do want to thank um I didn't have this originally, but I do want to thank Zach and the Cali team for that spring robotics contest. Um, I know a lot of kids, uh, my daughter being one of them that were really into that and, uh, so I just think it's fantastic that you guys do that and that we can do it in a community of this size and if you need to judge, feel free to reach out to me. Happy to happy to help with that.

Sign him up. Y Council Hayes. Um, first of all, thank you for progress on the entry sign. Really, really appreciate that. Um, I see in the packet Jason had a year in review. I It's interesting. I like to read that. Uh, one more question to Jeff. Um, on the duplexes behind Walmart, I noticed what they had one almost done. They quit on it about 6 months ago and there's a slab. Do you know where the contractors are on that?

My understanding is they lost some of their subs. So, there hasn't been much progress, but subs are hard to find, especially in our community. So, um, yeah, I don't have any ETA on that. Okay. Thank you, Councilwoman Lucas. I don't have anything tonight. Thank you, Councilman Wesmore. I don't have anything this evening. Okay. Uh, it's nice to see you back, Mike. Thanks. Walking very good. Feeling good. I'm glad you're doing all right. Okay. Uh, next we have reports of, uh, city officials. Heidi, Special Alcohol Drug Advisory Committee.

I just like doing these annual things, you know. That's about all I do. The uh So, the memo was in your packet. The special alcohol and drug advisory board meets mid to late March every year and we review funding requests from local organizations. Board consists of the mayor, two council members, city manager, and myself. Uh last year council members Antonyich and West Morland served on the board. Mayor Storya will continue on the board as the mayor. So we need two things. We need council to nominate two members to serve on the board for this year. And then once you do that and we need to schedule a date and time so that the clerk's office we can send out uh letters request letters to or notification letters for people's requests to the past recipients um from years past. But we have to give them that time and frame and everything so we know for a deadline.

I'd be happy to do it again. I would too. Okay. Or do you want it? I'm happy to. Yeah. Okay. So Mike and Mike and Jeff. Okay. Yeah. Jerry. Okay. I've done it last two years. Jerry. Jerry. Sorry. I have the J E. Jeff is sitting next to me. Yeah. Jeff's on it. So he doesn't get to step back. Somebody wants to take

Okay. Then um mid to late March. So if you look at your calendars, we have on the right month. We have a council meeting on the 3rd, which is a little it's too early to get letters out and requests back, especially with the mail system. So we have the 17th. We could possibly meet before that. Don't know if that works for the two of you. Don't know what your work situation is. And I believe we have a work session on Wednesday the 25th.

So, and that's at 6. We could possibly do it before that at 5:30. We could meet 5:45ish on the 17th if you guys want to stick with one of the already scheduled nights. It's 17th. 17th. Okay. Like uh 5:45ish. Does that work? Is that will that work for you? Is that too early? No, that's okay. 5:45 on the 17th. St. Patrick's Day, too. All right. Grandpa's 96 birthday. All right. Okay. Got it. Thank you.

Uh, next we have me memorandum of understanding for Slate Valley's Estates. Uh, Jeff. Uh, mayor and council, we have an agreement to accept discharges from the Slate Valley Sewer District. We've had this for a number of years. The uh attached agreement that orou was in your packet was to extend it for uh under the current terms until the end of April. The idea was that we would uh have probably uh completed kind of revisions of the documents ahead of the retirement of their debt, which is to happen this month. Uh we haven't gotten all the way there yet. So, we're asking for a little more time and then we'll probably bring in a new agreement back to you in the near future.

Any questions from council? uh way back when there was discussions on annexation out there. Has that ever came up again?

I mean, it's been posed over the years. I don't know that there's necessarily a strong want among them to be annexed. Um over the years, there's been a number of changes to annexation statutes. There's actually a uh bill in the House that would actually preempt municipalities abilities to do unilateral annexation. So, uh, I don't know that, um, I mean, it's been in there last couple years, but it seems to have some support behind it this time. Don't know that we could get a service plan, everything together and meet all the deadlines to get it done before the legislative session. But, I mean, if that's really a directive of the council, we can take that up with the planning commission because you need the planning commission to uh, review that advisability before we really head down that path. I was just curious if that any discussions have came up. So,

I mean, in a lot of ways, they're enjoying a lot of the benefits of being city residents without paying the taxes for that. Uh, but at the same time, they're also paying higher rates because we charge higher rates for services outside the city. I that's more of a policy decision than a staff decision. If there's direction from governing body one way or another, affirmatively or disaffirmatively, I mean, I'll take it. Anybody else? I need a motion to second to extend it. I'll make the motion to extend it.

Approve and we'll see where it goes. Okay, we have a motion, a second. Uh, all all those in favor? I I All those opposed.

All right. We have no public hearing. No ordinance. First resolution. A resolution fixing the time and place for providing for notice of hearing before the governing body of the city of Wellington, Kansas. at which time the owners his or her agent lean holders or of record and occupants of the structure located at 1310 Northb Street described as lot six block six of Eel Brown's edition city of Wellington Sumar County Kansas and 1312 North B Street described as lot f uh five block six of EL Browns Jeff am I done with No, there's more. But

addition, city of Senator C County, Kansas may appear and show cause why the property should not be declared a nuisance pursuant to K KSA12-1617E eq. Jeff.

Uh, so the mayor read a lot of, uh, legal language to say that this is a resolution to set a hearing regarding potential nuisance properties on B Street. Uh, at a recent meeting, council member Haye raised a question about IPMC and his consistency with statutory requirements for nuisance abatement. Uh, because this emails issue stemmed from or sorry, this issue stem from an email exchange I had with former Councilman Reitman uh, which may not have been shared with the entirety of the class. I'm going to just hit on that real quick. Uh, former member Writman noted that the IPMC was amended during his tenure to make invatement procedures more efficient. Uh, I explained that there were certain provisions of the IPMC that conflict with Kansas statute and may give the appearance of streamlined abatement. Uh the league municipalities uh reached the same conclusion and they issued a practice notice last year noting that adopted codes such as the IPMC may establish their own procedures for baiting nuisances which are somewhat inconsistent with KSA 121617E at SEC which is why this resolution uh specifically names that statute. uh and their concern is that based on IPMC the procedures if you follow them they do not implicate the city is taking uh action to abate uh under a self-help statute which is the 12617E based on the comments of Mr. Reitman previously uh when he was on council and Mr. Hey, I believe self-help abatement remains the viable option or at least the politically expedient one. Uh but I'm going to uh just say those are hypotheticals so that it doesn't appear the governing body has made any prejudgment of these properties. Um interestingly 121617 doesn't actually set out the standards for uh holding a hearing. Uh so we're recommending using our existing code when it comes to condemnation which this process uh mirrors. So you will start by adopting a resolution setting a hearing. Uh it'll be published twice in the paper. We will

make notice to the property owners uh and those with a property interest and then you will have a hearing at a later date uh which is specified in your uh resolution in the packet as your first meeting in April. Move to approve. Second. Motion. Second. Heidi, can I get a roll call? Mr. Elmore? Yes. Mr. Haye? Yes. Miss Lucas? Yes. Mr. West Morland? Yes. Miss Antonich? Yes.

So that is five affirmative votes for resolution number 6424. Okay. Second resolution, uh, a resolution authorizing the city manager to submit an application for the Kansas Department of Transportation local bridge improvement program for the Hillside Bridge over Harvest Creek. Jeff.

Uh, so there was a pretty good memo from Jeremy in the packet, but the high point is, uh, the Hillside Bridge over Hargus Creek is one of our 13 bridges that are listed in the National Bridge Inventory. They are required to be inspected by annually. U during the last inspection cycle, there was significant deterioration noted in the structural beams and decking. Uh so in 2024 we hired PEC to do a supplemental structural assessment and make some recommendations based on those recommendations. Some of you may remember that last year in September we applied for a cost share grant to help fund the replacement of the bridge but uh we were not approved by KOT at that time. There is a new program or an additional program that they have uh tried to push some additional funds through. The cost shares are a little different. the numbers were in the packet, but uh we would be responsible for about $145,000 uh of the construction inspection. Uh and then there would be additional costs we would have to assume for uh design. We expect that uh if we receive the grant, the project would be um the cost share for us would be about 220,000. Uh KAT would kick in about 667,000. Uh the short story is that this bridge is living in borrowed time. So we need to look at ways to address it. Uh we looked at another program uh that would have given us a little more money, but we would have had to find uh at least two bridges to close off of our system and we didn't feel that was a reality. So right now this is the best deal we can get when it comes to getting grants, which has been the directive of the council uh to find grants to do things. So, we're bringing this to you to ask for permission to apply.

Move to approve. Second. Yes. Sorry, I I got a lot. So, I was looking at at the numbers. Um, how old is the current bridge, Jeff? Oh. Uh, so we actually got it in a swap with the county. I have no idea. So old is what you're saying. Can we give it back to county? So old. Let's put it back. It's old. Okay. Yeah. Way back in the 20th century. Okay. Yeah. So, years ago, um, what's the lifespan of a of a new construction bridge?

Generally speaking, if you're doing all the concrete and all that stuff, you know, 50 years is a pretty decent lifespan. um they can last longer, but this one has one one of the issues with this one is there's constant water. So, it has kind of uh led to some deterioration of the steel. Um you know, we can do some additional things to try to mitigate some of those problems, but as a general rule, yeah, 50 years, then you need to keep looking at it. Um, this one gets a fair bit of traffic, so it'd be a start, but you can get a lot longer life out of them depending on maintenance and other such things. So, um, there I see there is a line here in the, uh, memo from Jeremy that the estimated total project cost is nearly 500,000. Was that for the just the repairs? Because I know that the the new bridge construction was substantially higher. So the way that we had kind of structured the last project was the uh it was going to be about half million. Uh we've put in some escalation but also this program uh the engineering would fall and inspections would fall on us. So that does increase the costs.

Okay. Uh over the lifespan essentially. So so if we repaired it, what what kind of lifespan are we looking at? Do you know off the top of your head? So PEC's recommendation based on their 24 evaluation was the repairs would be invasive enough because we'd have to sink new piles and and things of that nature that we'd probably be better off building a new bridge. So um I also noticed that the replacement bridge uh would be I guess substantially more beefy than than the existing bridge. Is is that just because of like new construction techniques since that bridge was built or are we trying to account for increased traffic, heavier traffic? Where's the uh where's that coming from?

Yes. So, right now the load rating on it is fairly low. Uh this would increase the load rating because there are, you know, farm uses and grain trucks tend to not necessarily care about weight loss that are posted. Um, so one one would so one would try to be to maximize the life. Uh, the other is I mean if I can get K out to help pay for it, I might do some things I might not normally do if I was paying for it all out of our pockets. Right.

So how I mean because this is a pretty pretty sizable project. Um, how um how are the rest of the bridges in the inventory looking? Is this something where we fix this bridge in the next year to replace it and then we're going to have to do that again with another bridge or the other bridge is looking okay?

This is the worst one in our inventory and it is on the real backside of what is acceptable within the bridge inventory system. Uh our other ones are in kind of mid-range to high. So, right now, this would make the most sense to address. Obviously, you know, we're going to keep looking at the other ones. Um, and as they're inspected by annually, you know, we kind of have, uh, an ongoing monitoring and knowledge of kind of where they're at. And, uh, you know, we believe that the other ones have been kept up well enough that, you know, we can plan further out in the future, but, this one is is probably the most distressing for staff.

Okay. Uh just one last question then. Um

so with this uh what is it called? The K dot local bridge improvement program grant uh that we're looking at. Does that only fund new construction or would that fund repairs if we went the repair route? So I've actually never done a bridge preservation project through there. Normally you go through it for new ones. Um we could look at at some kind of preservation. Uh but again there might be some cost benefit that we'd have to look at to say and that actually was one of the things that was in that 24 study was you know or the u bridge engineer from PEC whose name is Will Piles which just amuses me to no end. Um that was his recommendation was you know build build a a a new modern structure to account for what you're seeing now on your traffic counts and things like that. Um, my concern would be I don't know that we can get quite the same bridge out of the I mean, yeah, we I mean, we'd put new piles in, we'd put beams, we'd we'd probably change the pan design, but again, at that point, it's kind of a ship at thesis situation,

right? Yeah, I got you. Okay. I don't have any other questions. Thank you. did have a motion in a second. You do have Yeah. Okay. Um need a roll call. Heidi. Okay. Please. Mr. Elmore. Yes. Mr. Haye. Yes. Miss Lucas. Yes. Mr. West Morland. Yes. Miss Antonich. Yes.

So that is five yes votes for resolution number 6425. All right. Third resolution, a resolution approving an ambulance service agreement between the city of Wellington, Kansas, and Conway Springs, Kansas, and authorizing the mayor to sign the agreement. Fire Chief Jim.

Uh, good evening, Mayor Council. Uh we've been working on this for a couple weeks and uh just to tell you right off the bat, it's a force multiplier economies of scale for both uh some parts of the county, Conway Springs and Wellington. Uh they run roughly 270 calls per year, which that adds about.7 calls to our 6.8 calls that we run right now. So not that significant. And we're going to do this one differently. Instead of placing the normal fire department static deployment uh model, since we're just doing EMS, we will do a dynamic deployment, meaning that we go to where the people are. Reason fire departments have stations is because buildings don't move. They have to protect buildings. EMS, they protect people. So, they go to where the people are, which are like herd, you know, herds. They go around to work, etc. Most small town communities during the day hours are are off working in, you know, Witchaw, Wellington, wherever. Uh there are a few that stay home. So the majority of your calls are in the evening or night. So we're going to data that m or we're going to mine that data on historical data, know when the calls are uh going to come in and predict that and make sure that we're very close to that area or in that area. And when we're not running calls, when we're not busy, then we'll have an extra ambulance that would actually be in Conway Springs, uh providing coverage for that area there. Uh part of the uh resolution, you can see the map that we've actually butt up right just south of the Conway Springs EMS area. Um and our we've got places that we've already picked out where we could actually post. Uh we actually uh would lease uh the EMS facility for a dollar or five dollars a year uh from

the city of Conway Springs. Uh we'd also have uh the use a lease of two ambulances. Uh one is like brand new as I understand and one is also in good condition. That is both a dollar a year uh plus the equipment that they have. So the startup costs are not there. So, the plan is to tackle this with part-time employees that are single role EMS, paramedics, EMTs, and advanced uh that are not cross-trained as firefighters, multi-roll. They'll be single ro just EMS at a part-time uh level. And we'll do that peak load staffing, whichever days are busiest, we're going to put the ambulances where the calls are. Uh if we're out, say for example, there's one in Conway Springs and there's uh two or three ambulances are out in Wellington, then we could actually bring the Conway Springs unit halfway down in between that areas to cover both of them and vice versa. So it works like that. U it's that predictive staffing staffing and dynamic deployment which we're going to work on quite a bit. Um cost of it is we want definitely want to be revenue neutral on this uh and we've come out with a three-year contract uh for a subsidy for year one would be $120,000. Year two would beund roughly 134,000 and year three would be about $147,000 with a 12% and a 10% increase on each one of those years. revenues, anticipated revenues based on the payer mix that we receive right now. And our collections that we do of a third party uh would be an additional year one would be an additional uh about $250,000 uh total uh with revenues plus the

subsidy. In year two uh about $260,000 subsidies plus revenue. And then in year three, $272,000. Uh that's revenue and subsidies for those three years. If we add in the subscription program that we've looking at and trying to develop for the entire county just for that area right alone, uh just for the Conway Springs EMS area, u that's roughly about additional $50,000 a year at $50 a household with 60% people that would would get into that. So, we're actively working on uh uh billing the federal government for costs we don't get from Medicare and Medicaid through a GBT program uh that we've done in Oklahoma and several other areas. And uh that's our plan is where we're going right now. So, there's I know you have a lot of questions. That was a 30,000 foot overview. Um, and I'm happy to answer any questions you have or anything that I might have missed.

I have a question. So, on the lease agreement um for any like on the vehicles or equipment, who would be would Wellington be responsible with any maintenance or repairs on that or would that go to the cost of Conway? Uh, that we would be responsible for the maintenance and the upkeep of those.

Okay. one of those ambulance is still under warranty um as I understand and usually they're a threeyear 36,000 mi warranty you know uh that comes to that and then just the powertrain I'm not sure how old the other one is that point in time uh but we do our maintenance you know throughout the city and the area here they have a a a entity there in Conway Springs that's been doing their preventive maintenance oil changes etc that's familiar with the ambulances and we'd look at that trying to keep them in the Conway Springs area if possible. Okay. What about any real estate if we're

there's a building uh that's an EMS quarters that they have right now in Conway Springs and they're willing to lease that for a dollar or I think I don't know why but we had $5 a year u for the three years that were there. Okay. But what does that lease look like? Would we also be responsible for it? We would be responsible everything on the inside and Conway Springs would be responsible for everything on the outside unless there unless we cause damage specifically. Okay. Thank you.

Since there's going to be some long response time sometimes, um is there any kind of partnership or agreement with the police and fire over there to do some first response or respond to like lift assist and things like that?

Chief, that's a great question. or sorry u that's a great question we have and spoke with chief Urker here they will now have the same medical director that we have uh they will be under the same protocols that we have and we will provide that training uh you know we can go all the way up DMT EMT advanced eventually we'll be able to do that uh for the fire department any city workers that want to do that and our goal is like we want to do here in Wellington is the more people we can get trained in CPR handsonly CPR uh the better off it's going to be. So we would provide that training. They'd be under the same protocols that we are. Their equipment pretty much matches ours uh that we have right now. So it's kind of a seamless uh radios etc. are all right there. So it's kind of a seamless integration between units and our economies of scale u you know and it's less duplication of services and it's a force multiplier for not only the city of Wellington but for Conway Springs and and Sar County. Now, of that 120,000, is that some city funds and also your county subsidy or both?

That's both. What are you getting from county now? It's right about 60. Yeah. I It's kind of not tied to this agreement, but I think we really need to go to the county again. And it's been like seven or eight years now that since they've done anything on that subsidy and things have changed a lot over that time and we need to be I think aggressive with them that you know you need to start pitching in some more money. So yes sir

any questions from the mayor or chief? Anything? Any questions for us? Go ahead, J.

Chief, I appreciate you uh coming with the the numbers. That very much takes care of 90% of the questions I wrote out. So, thank you. Um looks like this is going to add about 150 square miles to our service area. Um so, uh and it goes all the way out to looks like the corn almost corner of K42 in Argonia Road up there by Subiesville. Um, do we anticipate um, Willington uh, EMS making that drive out there or is it almost it's going to be the part-time folks that are based in Conway supporting that?

It could be either one. Uh, if the uh, part-time staff that we have, they're interchangeable. So, in other words, we're not just hiring this person to go sit right over here or this person. If one's on a call, the other one would be either halfway there or in the uh city limits of Conway Springs. I think our target is to be there 80% of the time if we can and and to have an incity response time of about nine minutes on a 90th percentile. Okay. Um, how do I phrase this? The are we anticipating adding because I are vehicle are our vehicles leased now the ambulance vehicles or are they owned? I don't recall

our lease purchase. Unleashed purchase. So do we have any uh mileage limits that we have to take into consideration for that? No. No. Okay. Do we anticipate any additional uh maintenance costs on our ambulances because of this like a huge they get pretty beat up as it is. Uh I don't know that the additional costs will be exorbitant but um there's obviously going to be a cost.

You chief you said something about um federal grant money. Did I or did I misunderstand? The federal government has a program um GB GBT or CCT, whatever you want to call it. Different states call it different things. And um Medicare plays a a set rate. Let's say for example, they pay $100 for their transport. It's more than that.

Uh but it's $100. And for our unit hour to transport them, it actually would cost us, let's say, $600. So we keep that and do keep all our times, all our maintenance costs, etc. And quarterly we turn that into the federal government for the other $500 that they that we show that we need for that and they pay us back in in that. So at the place I used to work long time ago, we got $6 million just based on that alone. and some smaller fire departments around the state really kept them once that program went into effect kept them from closing the doors which is good. It's it's a great the issue with it is federal government could take it away tomorrow.

Yeah. And that was my concern. So but it's not something that we have to apply for. It's just something that we submit documentation for right now. It would take state legisl state legislators to pass that because it would have to go through the whole state. It could not be just Wellington Fire or Conway Springs or Sumar County. It would have to be the entire state. So the people in Johnson County, Altha, Kansas City, they're all for it already. Okay. Okay. So, all right. Thank you. I don't have any other questions. Anybody else? A motion and a move to approve. Second. Motion a second. He beating you. I got the big boys. All right. You ready, Heidi?

I'm ready. Okay. Roll call, please. Miss Antonich, yes. Mr. Elmore. Yes. Mr. Haye, yes. Lucas, yes. Mr. West Morland, yes. That's five affirmative votes for resolution number 6426. Um, we have no study items, no executive session, future agenda items. Move to adjourn. Uh, the work session third. Do we have to do the memorial board? Need to get somebody on the memorial board. That's not

I know, but that's I mean eventually, yes. Um, I don't know that it's pressing, but yeah. I mean, you do have a vacancy on the memorial board for a council member. You want to Okay. Jerry said he Here's our man right here. Yes, he is. Bring it to the next one. They have to run it through the Mo board though, don't they? No. Uh I'm just a little befuddled because procedurally you've already tried to adjourn the meeting. Uh oh. Do we need to do it at the next meeting? I think you can wait till the next meeting. Yes.

All right. At least you're letting us know. All right. We have We don't have anything else. Move to adjourn. Second. All those in favor? I. All those opposed. Meet