Magistrate Hearing - Regular Meeting

Curb. A deadly wreck involving an ATV near Tamiami Airport, and we're now seeing video of the mangled mess left behind.

According to police, Juan Carlos Marquez was driving the utility vehicle northbound when he crashed into an SUV that was turning. The impact flipped the vehicle leaving Carlos Marquez and a passenger pinned. She is listed in critical condition at a hospital.

All minors operating off road vehicles must take an approved safety course. The minors' parents are liable for any accidents or injuries.

A male was riding an ATV westbound on the street behind us. It appears there was some type of mechanical failure. He lost control and ended up striking the sidewalk. It was confirmed en route to the hospital. He passed away from his injuries.

Any gas powered vehicle capable of traveling at speeds greater than 20 miles an hour is considered a motor vehicle according to Florida law. The vehicle must have a registered tag, and the operator must hold a valid driver's license. Any person operating a motorcycle without an endorsement is committing a second degree misdemeanor. The operator will be issued a citation and be required to appear in court. No person under the age of 16 shall operate, ride, or be otherwise propelled on an all terrain vehicle unless the person wears a safety helmet that meets US DOT standards along with eye protection.

People who do not follow this regulation will receive a $116 nonmoving violation. An all terrain vehicle may not be operated on public roads, streets, or highways in Florida, except as otherwise permitted by a managing state or federal agency. People who do not follow this regulation will be fined a $116 nonmoving violation. It is a misdemeanor offense for an unlicensed driver to operate a motor vehicle on a public roadway. Violators will be required to appear in court and face up to a $500 fine.

The one year period that minors are required to hold a learner's license will be extended for one year from the date of conviction or until the violator turns 18, whichever comes first. County Sheriff's Office confirms that 13 year old boy from Loxahatchee died yesterday afternoon in a dirt bike crash with another vehicle. This was on West Sycamore Drive and 185th Trail North. Deputies say the teen was illegally riding a dirt bike on the sidewalk when he drove off and hit an expedition. He flew off that bike.

So did his 14 year old passenger who was seriously hurt. It is a misdemeanor offense when a parent or guardian causes or knowingly permits their child or ward under the age of 18 to operate a motor vehicle on a public roadway. It is illegal to operate an OHV in the following areas within Palm Beach County, public roadways, dirt, and paved, including the sides of the roadway, sidewalks, natural areas and farmland, property with no trespassing signs posted, private property without the owner's permission, canal right of ways, fenced or gated property, property bordered by water and or a canal, and construction sites.

The day fire rescue crews rushed the scene of the accident, a messy scene that covered three lanes of traffic. Fire crews telling us three people were hurt. One died in that crash, including two riding that all terrain vehicle were thrown off and pinned under it.

In 2021,

there were a

total of sixty four injuries involving the use of ATVs, dirt bikes, and golf carts. All of these serious accidents were within the borders of Palm Beach County. Six of these avoidable incidents required emergency transportation by trauma hawk. Accident victims were taken by air to the nearest emergency facilities for serious traumatic injuries. Unfortunately, in four of those six preventable and very serious accidents, the off road drivers lost their lives.

Police say this is an accident that didn't need to happen. They say an ATV collided with an SUV at the intersection of Latamere and Main. The woman on the ATV died at the hospital, and the man was seriously injured. TPD says they weren't wearing helmets, and they believe speed could have played a role.

Off road vehicles are not toys. Serious injuries can result from improper use. But used safely, these vehicles can be enjoyed for outdoor recreation. For more information on safe OHV operations, visit floridaohv.org.

Hi, I'm Jim Barnes, Wellington's village manager. Operation Broken Bottle continues in Wellington this month. Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office District eight deputies are focusing on reducing distracted driving, DUI, and other offenses to keep our residents safe. Now in its second year, Operation Broken Bottle continues to make a difference in our crash reduction efforts. This operation is possible in part thanks to a grant from the Florida Department of Transportation.

The grant supports District eight's use of saturation patrols on heavily traveled roads in Wellington. These patrols are conducted by specially trained deputies who are skilled in identifying drunk drivers and other traffic offenses. Deputies are issuing citations, making arrests, and putting a stop to drunk and aggressive driving. This operation is not just about enforcing the law, but also about educating drivers on the importance of following traffic laws and being safe on the road. Be mindful of your speed, stay off your phone, and never drink and drive. Together, we can keep Wellington a safe hometown.

Hi. I'm Gloria Kelly, project manager for the village. Wellington is a unique community with world class equestrian charm. During season, there may be up to 13,000 horses traveling on our roads and pathways. To accommodate equestrian residents and ensure safe travel, we have unique signs, signals, and pavement markings on our roads. Today we'll discuss crosswalk awareness, specifically in our equestrian areas. These horse crossings, which include signs, signs, buttons located at rider level, and flashing warning lights, instruct drivers to yield to horses. Here are some important things you need to keep in mind. Horse riders. Upon approaching the crosswalk, press the button on the pole and wait to cross.

Wait 10 to 12 feet back to be sure traffic stops before stepping onto the crosswalk. Simply pressing the button does not guarantee oncoming cars will stop and let you cross. When in doubt, hang out. Stay alert. Hopefully, drivers and cyclists are paying attention, but you need to pay attention as well. Be responsible for your own safety. Keep your head up. Don't text, read, or be otherwise visually distracted. Similarly, don't wear headphones that keep you from hearing important clues about what is happening around you. Be visible.

Highly visible clothing helps make you and your horse stand out. Wear brightly colored clothes during the day in a reflective vest at dusk and dawn. Another great visibility aid is a flashing LED safety light that may be attached to your saddle or clothing. Make eye contact. Be sure drivers in stopped vehicles see you before you cross in front of them. Never assume a driver will give you the right of way. Drivers. Drivers must stay alert and approach all crossings with care. Look carefully to see if there are any horses nearby. If you see a horse and rider waiting to cross, come to a slow stop and stay about two car lengths away from the stop line.

Horses are prey animals. They're particularly sensitive to noise and can be unpredictable. Not speed up, honk the horn, or come to a screeching halt. Always obey the posted speed limit.

Order. The first thing to do is to say the pledge of allegiance. Jumping over the words. Okay. My remarks are going to be short because I wasn't the committee chair. I mean, didn't know I was going to be the committee chair, but now I am for today. Should is this a point where I would talk about my tour of Pod F or

no? Yeah.

Yeah. So first I would say that Paige Bellissimo of Wellington Lifestyle Partners is very open to giving tours to anyone and everybody. So I know we have some public comments on that later. I would encourage everybody that has an interest to go and make a tour. I was very, I was I was encouraged by what I saw. The here? Hear me now? Okay. I was encouraged by What's what's he saying?

There's a phone next to the microphone.

That's yours. Mine's on. Okay. I was, quite encouraged by what I saw. The barns are there there are a bunch of barns that are built. There are still some to be built. They're building more, stalls than they had committed to for condition seven. The rings are coming along. They're working on the big stadium ring now. The derby field has really taken seed.

It's a beautiful footing. So think they think that by August they're going to be finished. What they're focused on now, because they've just gotten the permits, is all of the sewage work and sort of the stuff that you don't see but needs to go in. And there's a lot in already. They have taken an area that's a 12 acre spot that has a lot of cypress trees on them.

And they've dredged that out to a certain extent. And what's happening is you're getting wildlife coming back. So I think they said they had a bald eagle. They've got some blue heron. So it was so overgrown before with an invasive plant. I don't remember the name of the plant. But there was no way for anything to survive there. Now they've kind of opened it up. The area can breathe. The cypress trees are obviously preserved.

And wildlife is coming back. So that's 12 acres that will be preserved in perpetuity. So, you know, I went in kind of skeptical. I think the question mark I continue to have is the actual stadium area, the viewing area. I think they would like at some point to do something permanent, but it doesn't sound like that's gonna be what is in place for next show season.

I think it'll be something more along the lines from a VIP and a general admission standpoint, what we see at Global today. I sort of said to Page, I said, well, you're building it, so we have, Dressage will be going there. We have to come to make to really ensure for them that it's a profitable venture. And I think if we don't sort of step up and do that, we may see some of the jumpers migrate more into those show grounds because that's where they make some money. So I saw the haul in area.

I know there are some things that have been going around about the parking pass charge, and then the hauling area isn't close to the rings. The hauling area is perfectly fine from a proximity standpoint to the rings, so I'm not worried about that. Has anybody else done the tour? Kristi, did you do the tour?

I I'm still dealing with my husband's estate on my every day

off. I haven't done it either. There was no deadline to do it. You did it. What were your

Again, I totally agree with you. She's very forthcoming, very open to suggestions, not only in terms of it for dressage, but conversations about jumpers being there in the off season, like options. And it's all about optionality. Exactly, I had the conversation with her about I had a separate conversation with her, but it was a little bit along the lines that you had about being profitable. Because when they came in front of us, when they wanted PODF, all of that, we were told that it was a $5,000,000 loss, that Dressage.

And obviously, to build all of that for a loss making venture, as nice as that is for dressage people, as a business person, you scratch your head. And so, but from a show jumping standpoint, the one thing I kind of talked to her about is like, you know, the expense of show jumping versus other places, not only in Florida, but But that's

not her. I mean, she has nothing to

do with the show. Understand. But I'm just what I meant by that was, what I want to make sure is that the reason why the jumping side isn't so expensive is because we're subsidizing the dressage side. Right? But again, that's a Wellington International. It's a Michael Stone question,

for sure.

Right. And Michael Stone can Hopefully hopefully come. Come

in September.

JULIE Right. Mean, it's just they're literally just questions. Because everybody if you go on to the in terms of what they're building, I was very happy to see. In terms of what they're trying to accomplish, like I get the vision. In terms of kind of addressing every critic under the sun on Instagram and Facebook and this and that, which you'll never make everybody happy, I think it was productive.

Yeah. I guess my question is, and obviously I didn't do the tour, but when the project was presented to us, the biggest complaint Michael Michael Stone had was that they could not get good sponsors because they didn't have a good section to bring them to. They didn't have air conditioning. They didn't have permanent stuff. So and then you're telling me that it looks a little temporary so that I would have a little bit that was Michael Stone bringing up a point that they can't draw good sponsors because they don't have a good VIP area for them. And then my other question is, is the stadium covered seating?

Yes. They're planning on No, doing that.

They're not. The stadium has no covered seating. She said it's $2,000,000, and they can't afford it. I went on the tour too. And she said, we have no plan to cover it. It's, you know, just bleacher.

She well, she told me that they were hoping to cover it.

Regardless, it's not a condition, so there's nothing But we can do about

is a, you know, global is now covered, and we're going from a non covered stadium to an uncovered stadium when we're supposed to be going to the best of the best. So little things like that. I just take a little deep breath that I remember sitting at all these meetings being promised that they are the best of the best and they know how to build things. And then when I hear temporary, not covered seating, things like that, like are the bathrooms up and running? Are they up and running, Sarah? The bathrooms? Were they

No, but they

some of the wood and

things are back watered on it, and they're working on that. But by October, they should have bathrooms. And the good news is they will have hot water in the bathrooms.

They're doing all the sewer work now. The permits were a long time in coming, apparently. And they will be permanent in the barns. And then other bathrooms approximate to the rings. So Glenn, do you have anything on this topic before we move on?

GLENN Yeah, I was very impressed. I did the tour about six weeks ago, early on, before we, I think is one of the first of the committee doing it, I was impressed by three things. One, as I think several of you have said, Page's openness to taking as many people on the tour as would like to do it, and to really getting quality input, and taking that input to heart, and making changes based on the input, that they had already done a lot of that on their own with some of their expert groups, but they were looking forward to comments from us and others who tour. So they, it really seemed to be very organic and responsive in that regard. The second piece was that, my impression was that they were committed to over delivering on the expectation or the commitment of condition seven, that, that they viewed that as an appropriate Baseline, yeah.

Baseline, but their goal was to exceed it and to get a wow factor from participants at the show as a result of, and in the community for having exceeded it. And the third piece that stood out to me was that the magnitude of the investment in tens of millions was A, substantial, and B, was well in advance of the return cash flow, if you will, from operating. That they had a high degree of patience that an understanding that they would need to invest now, and that the return would come later, very likely much later, but that that was okay. And that was really refreshing to hear the willingness to invest upfront. So in the main, I was very, very positive.

I would encourage, you know, you guys to continue to give comments directly to to Paige, both on the tour and outside of that as you have follow ups. And I think you'll find my my sense is that she'll be very responsive to to the comments. That that's really important, one of her kind of core values.

Yeah. I agree actually. I had the same very similar experience. I thought to kind of, I taught it last week. Think just to touch on Glen's point, there is very much a vision of long term here.

And I think as it comes just from a foundational level and looking at the facility, just what they're putting in that will never be seen but will have benefit on days when there could be a trench or downpour are the factors. I mean, Paige told me that the the derby field they put in on that week 12 Sunday that basically canceled nine amps of the horse show, she actually told me that field still could have been jumped on. It was that, like the drainage was so good. So I think just from that standpoint alone, I could definitely see that her heart is in the right place and the vision is there. So I'm excited to see as it all comes together, and we'll be competing on it next year.

Super. We look forward to hearing from them in September. Okay. So does anybody have any additions or deletions or reordering of the agenda? I think does the agenda stand as presented?

On our side, yes.

Yep. Okay. That's good. Okay. Do want me to make motion to approve the minutes? Yep. Can I get a second?

I'll second.

Okay. Everyone's reviewed them?

Aye. Yep.

All in favor of approving the minutes? Aye. Say aye. Any abstain? Any Okay. Everybody was here at that meeting.

Hey, guys. Sorry. You need to make a motion for the Agenda? No, for the participants on Zoom to participate.

Oh, okay. I make a motion to let Ash and Glenn join our meeting.

And I think Sarah's on. Sarah's on still on.

I think Sarah's on too.

Still on, but I'm having Sarah. I'm like, she's

I'll not playing second.

Okay. Everyone in favor?

Aye. Aye. Okay.

Thank you.

All right. And have we approved the minutes then? That other vote? Is that okay that we did it out of order? It's okay. Okay. All right. So moving on to Agenda number six. Who is going to present on the recreational trails program?

I will be presenting on the recreational trails program.

Okay.

And if I could ask the communications team in the back to make this one single thank you. So, the reason I'm bringing up this project, we've talked about this project before. This is the Brown trail improvements, for one of the one of the, trails, near Sugar Pond. And, it's it's been brought to our attention by our grant consultants that, this type of project would score highly, and there's a a good chance of getting a grant for it. So in order to, apply for the grant, part of that process is to present to to a a committee, really just alerting them to that we're gonna be applying for a grant.

There's no motion that needs to be made, but I was just gonna give you a brief overview of the project so we can check that box.

Good.

Okay. So this is the Brown Trail. Location map, as you can see, it's, it's near Paddock Drive. It's between the C 15 Canal, just west of Wellington Trace. This this project is to improve the Brown Trail, improve the footing, construct a 12 foot bridle trail with a grass riding surface, regrade and stabilize the the entire corridor, including the swale, to improve drainage, upgrade swales and culverts to improve the drainage, restore disturbed areas with sod and erosion control, and, of course, drainage improvements.

The estimated cost of this project, is $750,000. We'll be applying for a $450,000 grant to reduce that cost Wellington cost to to $300,000. And, for reference, this is a typical section for the, bridal trail. As you can see, we'll have a 16 foot bridle path in the area, accompanied by a pretty substantial swale that's also not very steep at all. So it would serve as additional riding area if needed.

Does this include what that gentleman came and spoke to us about last time about that intersection that was so dangerous?

No.

No. Okay.

And that concludes my presentation for the Brown Trail.

It's so you'd be looking for $300,100,000 dollars to be paid by

the military?

Yes. And we would this was this is a project in progress. So it's already budgeted and funded for this fiscal year. What we'd be looking to do is stop the you know, put a put a pause on it until we hear back from the grant folks, whether or not it's gonna be funded by them or not or or, you know, the the grant would be funded by them or not. So if it is, we're hoping for a $450,000, help with this project.

The 750,000 is a a preliminary estimate. We'd hope to get that number down as well. But worst case, we'd be taking 300,000 out of the bridal trail funds for this project, whereas before, it was a borderline no go project at $750,000

And it's it's on the list of projects that we've been looking Yes.

In phase one now?

Yes. This is actually 2026 or 2025 project. That's it's this year.

Okay.

So the list that you guys are voting on tonight, it's not on that list because it's already been approved for for this year.

Okay. How long does a project like that take?

This one would probably take about ninety to one hundred and twenty days. Shouldn't And

do close the whole trail down when you do it? Yes.

Yes. Okay. Yes. We do it off season.

Yes.

I see.

Yes. We definitely wouldn't construct a trail with the questions.

Disgusting.

Yes. I hear you.

Jonathan, if we don't pause it but kept going, do we lose the opportunity to get the grant? Is pausing sort of a, okay, so that's really important, that's what you need from the committee, a sort of alignment with that idea?

Yeah. And worst case, you're punting it a year to next you know, instead of constructing this summer, we'd construct next summer.

How underway is

It's very usable right now. The issue with the trail itself is the drainage. So, if you if we have a rainstorm, it's not usable for several days, whereas with the improvements, it'll be usable within hours.

Okay. And it gets the right enough traffic to warrant? I guess we've already voted

on Yes, it, so absolutely. We've

gone through all

This is a high traffic, trail.

Will it be looked on less favorably by the state to the extent that we started it ourselves and thought we were funding it? Would they say, oh, No, we do this all thought time. They're paying

for

Yes, this is a typical thing that we do with funding. And we're always looking for opportunities to apply for grants and that sort of thing. And we've been very successful, especially with multiuse pathways and equestrian trails under this particular program.

Okay. Any more questions? No. Do you need us to vote or we just say

proceed? No. This purely for information.

UNIDENTIFIED Okay.

Thank you.

All right. Great. And on to the draft state of the Equestrian Preserve Report. And that's you, Tim, right?

Yes. So actually, we'll take on the next three items. The first so this was just a report that we put together to provide you with some variety of different data and information about the preserve. So wasn't expecting any input tonight, but if you have any, we'd gladly welcome it. The idea was that to give you an opportunity to review it between now and the next meeting and then have a deeper discussion as to any additional information or questions you have about the information that we could then modify it and bring it back at a subsequent meeting for your acceptance.

Okay. I had a couple of questions after reviewing it. But do you want to present it?

I didn't really have a presentation of it tonight. But if you want to talk about your thoughts, I'm glad to start making any adjustments.

The report itself include the Wellington Preserve, that whole area? Because that's in the preserve, right?

It is not currently. No. You're talking about the environmental preserves?

No. No. No. The one that's off of 50th Street to the south of 50th 50th, then you turn right, and it goes from it's that whole house it's that housing?

Yes.

Are many it barns

So in if you look at the map on the screen

It was unclear to me which section it was.

Yeah. That would be the section at the bottom corner of the village. So that southeast section, it's mostly blue with a little bit of green and red in it. That's the section 34.

Yep. Okay.

Yeah. That is included.

I had a question about House Bill two eleven. Is that the House Bill that manure comes under? Because manure is not mentioned in the explanation of it.

I mean, generally, that bill was just referencing the, again, the collection, storage, processing, and distribution of farm products.

What page are you on?

Page 17.

17 of 27.

But is manure now classified as a farm product?

Don't know

if it sounded that way.

A farm product If you look down at the next paragraph, it's defined as plants or plant products or any animal useful to humans and includes, but is not limited to, any product derived therefrom. And so generally the interpretation from our village attorney has been that if it comes out of the animal, then that's considered a farm product as well.

Okay. So Bill two eleven manure would fall under that as being that you can collect, store, process and distribute?

Yes, I believe so. And

I wondered whether in this plan it would make sense to include some of the discussion about the large parcels of land that are for sale within the preserve.

Wait, can I go back to this for just one second? Two-one-one. This goes back to the whole issue from years ago. It's like if it comes out of an animal on your farm. But what about when you start transporting it?

It doesn't address that.

No, it doesn't.

Right. And I think the whole issue with all of that is usually farmers or whatever, farms, deal with their manure, how they still want to on their land minus if it affects environmental issues. But as soon as you start hauling manure, it used to be still classified as a waste product. So, yeah, you can do what you want with your manure on your property, not like once it's been transported to somewhere else. I mean, that's how it's always been. I don't see any of that changed in this.

No. I thought that's what changed with the ballistic manure station, that he could have it because it was a farm product that he was storing on his property. Or did I misinterpret that?

No. He can have it because everybody wanted to know what we're going to do with our manure. And I remember being totally against this. It's our job. It's our this. Whatever's not going to take it anymore, the whatnot. Because the oh my god. Everglades Foundation was kind of going after all the farmers. I mean, and also the cattle farmers on Lake Okeechobee because it was affecting the Everglades. And they were like, Okay, well we're not when that was going on, were like, we're not going to take any more manure.

It's like, okay, and we can't dump it in Waxahachie, and we can't dump it here, but it's still a solid waste once it's on a truck.

Well, it's actually not. This is where I think that it got a little unclear because solid waste authority said, no. It's not a solid waste. It's an agricultural waste, which is

It can still be agricultural waste, but it's not your agricultural waste once it's on a truck and somewhere else.

Correct. But the, yeah, the SWA doesn't regulate or didn't, I guess, didn't want to get into the regulation of those haulers, and so they kind of backed away from it. They'll they'll accept, as I understand, if I remember if I remember correctly, they'll accept up to 50,000 tons a year, but the county produces about 300,000.

But here it says distribution of a farm product on land classified as agriculture. It doesn't say that you have to produce the farm product. That's why I'm questioning it. It just says you can collect, store, process, and distribute a farm product on land classified agriculture. So it basically is saying if I have manure, I can collect storage process and distribute it on as long as my land is classified ag. Am I interpreting that right?

I believe so.

Okay. As an individual farm. It doesn't say that.

It doesn't say that.

But it has to be classified as an ag property.

It is an ag property.

It is.

To policy to prohibit, restrict, regulate, otherwise limit an act including but not limited to collection, storage, processing, and distribution of a product. The whole thing talks about storage processing and distribution as an activity. And, you know, I think it would be great to have somebody, like because, I mean, that doesn't that doesn't sound I mean, I understand it's about protecting the farmer, but that, to me, doesn't sound like, you know, that's the purpose of it. To me, the purpose is about what happens on your property.

But it doesn't sit so I'm just trying to understand that because people always come to me for manure questions, and I have to have answers. So I was just trying to understand it more. But I'll send an e mail to Laurie Cohen and see if she can clarify it for me. Thank you. So

my question was on the future influences. Would it make sense to talk about some of those larger parcels that are on the market? Because

It might. It's just our access to that is somewhat limited. We don't have MLS or any so it's

Because there are like three or you can count them on one hand, three or four, but very large, 100 acres, 150 acres. And those are something that EPC needs to keep an eye on, I think. Because they do they will have, as of right, zoning, right, in terms of development? Take, like, the Mary Alice Malone, the Campbell Soup property. That's 100 acres.

It depends on the sub area that they're in. And that, yeah, they're in C. So they would be in terms of what they could do in term relative to any changes, you know, creating lots, they'd be limited to 10 acre.

10 acre.

10 acre subdivision. Yeah. But we can look I can look and see what we can

What's that? And then it's the polo property that backs up to the preserve, J5. And I think there was one other one. Is there one other one that's on the market?

Grand, is it Grand, No. There is Apollo.

That's J5.

Oh, that's J5.

Yeah. Valiente.

That's 150 acres, I believe. I'd just like to have them noted in the report so we kind of keep track of that.

Sure.

Anything else that you guys and if you haven't read it, we can come back another meeting and look at it again?

Yeah. And you can even if you read it and you have a thought, feel free to email me. That way, you know, we can make some adjustments as needed for the next meeting and can have a group discussion on individual comments.

Can we be notified when the appeal for the Alacarro project gets decided in the next couple months? Can we be notified of the result, please?

Yeah. I can try. Right now, the that sits with a mediator. And as as far as I know so far, no meeting no meetings between the parties have been scheduled. I think the next at the next meeting, miss Cohen is gonna be asking the council to appoint a representative from the council for that mediation. And once anything comes out of it, we can share that with the committee for sure.

Tim, I thought the draft that you shared was really well done. So kudos to you and your team.

Yeah. We'll thank you. The hope would be that we kind of try to update this annually just to keep an eye on changes and trends and particularly That's the legislation. Really helpful.

JULIE Okay.

JULIE right. So moving on, the next topic would be six-eight. Did

Glenn have something I'm sorry.

Else?

JULIE Okay. Glenn, have more to

JULIE No, no. I made my comment. Thanks. Just well done on the draft. Thank you. JAMES

Sorry, I didn't mean to move on so quickly. So now we're into June. As I mentioned to the committee at the last meeting, we did not see the changes that were hoped for in Senate Bill 180. So we're kind of at a crossroads of deciding what to do next. So the options are we can wait until October 2027 to remove this section.

We can work from the the work that was done previously and would recommend that future workshops be scheduled with the committee to do that. And then or if you have any direction you'd wanna give tonight, we're happy to take that. What I did provide you with in the package was the LDR prior to the recent or twenty twenty one changes. The current LDR comparison between old and the new, and then the draft changes that had come out of the previous workshop discussions.

I thought we I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought we had voted on removing cluster development out of the preserve. Wasn't that the final outcome of what we voted on? Thought I was. But I

think what you're saying is we can't make those changes until October 2027?

That's correct.

Well, we can't make any changes till 2027.

Well, you can't make any changes to the LDR that are more cumbersome or burdensome on a property. And so as long as we kind of walk that fine line with any changes, and it could be, I mean, that'll be up to legal interpretation, but it could be, you know, clarifying some of the elements within it. So it's kind of putting, not necessarily putting new parameters on it, but just putting more definition to it. And then, you know, that'll be an analysis we need to

So if I translate that, we can't saying cluster development would be onerous to a developer, so we can't say that. But we might be able to say that in the equestrian preserve, we want five acres owning or two and a half acres owning.

Well, I this this is where you know, I don't have a law degree, so I'm not as smart as an attorney. But the my general interpretation is that you can't change the LDR that removes any existing property rights. That's what I think the

Or make them more restrictive.

Right. I think that's what the legislature was intending, is that you can't put additional regulations or modify the regulations in such a way that it would limit what the property owner can do currently.

In the Equestrian Preserve now, it's what acre zoning?

Depends on your size.

I know, but it's a minimum of

Two in sub area

Right. And so when they came for all of these things, they were basically asking for cluster. Is that right?

Well, cluster is allowed. Is allowed. It's in It's allowed.

That's the six eighty eight But

how do you go from two and a half acres to cluster?

Because as long as the final density is still one housing unit per two acres. Yeah. So they put 40 houses on 80 acres.

Oh, that I understand. But when they wanted to condense it, hence they come to the committee.

No. It's all the other stuff that they wanted to put on the property. Did it meet the definition of an equestrian development? It counts as a Yeah, no, no.

I understand all that. But at the end of the day, they were putting it on half an each house on half an acre because they were condensing it.

Because they're allowed to put it on a half acre because they put 40 houses on 80 acres.

That's not how I understood it. I understood it that you were they allowed to put 40 houses. They were allowed to put one house per two acres on that land. But they, in order to fit everything they wanted, said, Okay, we're going to maintain a polo field. We're going to this. We're going to that. But in order to do that, we need

to According to the LDRs, they were allowed to cluster. Right now, you can cluster in the entire Equestrian Preserve area.

Yeah. Even though it is an ask and it is does require Council approval, The LDR does have, in June, provide for that request. And so that's what eliminating it does take away that property right, that, you know, or make it more restrictive.

Eliminating six dot eight dot eight as well as eliminating or being very specific at the point in time that the state statutes allow us to, or allow the community to, that there's no cluster development allowed anywhere in the EOCD.

Which is what we asked for, yes. Which we cannot do until Exactly. This

Until October 27. And my suggestion would be that, you know, rather than dance close to the edge of are we being more restrictive or not, that unless counsel specifically needs or asks for input on a particular definition, which I haven't heard as of this point, that we hold off and invest our time, you know, elsewhere, and let the timetable run out so that October '27, our original recommendation to counsel would stand, and it seemed like they would embrace that from everything we were hearing.

I totally agree with their meetings. Yeah, I totally agree, too. But what is October 1?

That's when the statute runs out.

Oh, it just runs out.

As long as we don't have a hurricane within 100 miles, and tornadoes don't count.

Well, that's right. Right, right, right, right.

Because right now, the definition in June, which Lower Cohen stated, was you could build one little paddock and call it a question of development. So to put restrictions on how much horse stuff you have to put in, etcetera, you're definitely not dancing close to the edge. You're telling them it's more restrictive. So I don't see I agree totally with Glenn that to spend time and effort to try to dance a fine line, I think we're wasting our time. I'd rather spend it elsewhere.

Agreed. Yeah. So we have to pray El Nino helps us.

It's supposed to be really good this

year. We

can hope.

We have a year and

a half.

Yeah, we

have two hurricane seasons we have to get through.

Yeah. Okay.

And it has to well, never mind. Whatever. Okay.

Okay. MSN. MSN. Yeah. So

that tornado that ripped through Wellington, what was it, two years ago?

Yeah. Well, a year ago.

But that wasn't a result of a hurricane. That was just a tornado with bad weather. That wouldn't count, right?

That was part of a hurricane.

It on the rim or the edge of the hurricane. It's what hit in the, yeah, on the West Coast.

Feeder ban.

Mhmm. Feeder ban. Thank you.

So so that would count?

Well, it's really it it's the the statute is based on landfall within a 100 miles of landfall.

Landfall, not the outskirts of the storm.

No. Within a 100 miles of the landfall, whatever counties are impacted.

So that would have counted?

Yeah.

Uh-huh.

We we Palm Beach County is within that that area. What but it could get extended if another storm is within that same. Or it's still I know it's still on the radar for the the Florida Planning Association to try and get it modified and as well as other thousand friends of Florida and others who see it as as really handcuffing communities on on good planning.

It's a terrible statute. Uh-huh.

So it just didn't make it. There there were several bills considered. They just didn't make it through. So hopefully next legislative session.

Vote in November.

Okay. Anything else on

anybody know DeSantis?

No. I'm sorry. So next is the Equationary and Trails Master Plan update. And so this is what Jonathan mentioned earlier. So this is the updated list that we reviewed with the committee at the last meeting and incorporated your changes as well as some updated cost estimates estimates by the engineering staff.

So you can see the lists for the that will be presented as for consideration in the upcoming fiscal year capital budget as well as some those projects in years two and three. And just I provided you the full master plan for reference. So you can there you have the trip counts on the trail so you can use that or have that at your fingertips. And so I think unless the committee has any questions or changes to the proposed list, we'd ask for a recommendation.

you guys have any Just comments? Confirm one thing.

We have a million dollar budget a year.

It's going to be $7.50 this year.

No, no, no. But in general?

In general we have in the past,

Yeah. Okay.

So you want us to make a motion if nobody has anything?

Or we have to make does anyone have any comments on this? They're all happy with it? Glenn, you good with this?

I take voiced what we reviewed the last meeting, which is largely what we're seeing here with our inputs

Yep.

Is a good plan.

Okay. So just confirming, this has the roundabout, year one?

Yes.

Yes, it's 1E. Oh, here it is. The 1E. Thank you.

Yeah, the 1D and 1E are the two projects that were presented. Is that

Right. Correct? And 2026, 2027, would that mean we're starting this summer?

No. No. It would be next year.

And where is the project that we talked about where by Ousley, the roundabout there where people were crossing?

That's 1 E.

That's 1 E. That's what he was talking about. Okay, good. All right. There it is. Okay. So we make a motion, I guess, someone to make a

motion to recommend.

It's a recommendation to recommend to counsel, right? We're not approving. We're approving the recommendation.

Well, you can approve your recommendation, the committee's recommendation.

Okay. So we make I'll make a recommendation to approve our recommendations on the capital projects of the trail system.

I'll second.

All in favor? Aye. All right. A recommendation to make a recommendation. Good. All right.

Now Just for reference, in the package you have sorry, didn't get on to the next slide you'll see the projects illustrated on the map of the project locations.

JULIE Oh, that's helpful. Thank you.

JULIE Adam, chairperson, I've got a new business item I'd like to just put before the committee for a moment, if you guys would be willing.

I think, yeah, do.

Okay, thank you. The original charter of the committee was to meet orderly. That evolved over the past few years to monthly meetings. And it seems to me that there could be some benefit to going back the original charter, to just to clarify that, that would be a quarterly meeting unless there's an application that requires input, in which case we would need to meet on a timely basis to keep that process moving forward. But rather than monthly meetings, I'd love to hear everybody's thoughts on going back to the original charter of quarterly meetings, making which gives us the opportunity to do, I think, two things.

One, be less onerous or burdensome for people as we evolve as a committee over time, and we want to expand participation in the committee. And the second piece would be that when we do meet, it would enable us to focus on kind of the most important items for the equestrian community and for input to counsel. It'd be helpful to hear comments and thoughts on that, if that'd be my suggestion.

I'd be fine with that. And we're all agreed that if something comes up, we need to convene.

Exactly.

Think it makes a lot of sense.

So as far as I understand, you have to meet four times a year. And so it may even kind of behoove us to say, while everybody's in season, and equestrians as well, if they want to make public comment, etcetera, etcetera, that even if it's not quite quarterly, maybe it's like January and March, you know, so that two of the meetings are during season, with the other two, you know, being maybe before people disperse and right when people come back kind of thing. So, like, not necessarily every three months, but kind of in a way that also incorporates the community.

That makes a lot of sense.

Agree with that. Yeah.

Yeah. Would like to make

a comment. Good one. I got asked to be on this committee, I was told that we'd have quarterly meetings. A lot of issues came up that absolutely would have been stalled with quarterly meetings. We rewrote the BMPs. We spent a lot of times on those. We rewrote the LDRs. We spent a lot of time on those. We rewrote the comp plan. We spent a lot of time on those. If we would have met quarterly during those time periods, we would have held up the development of the question preserve by years.

That's a

good question. This is a committee that you are dedicated to as a citizen of Wellington. If you cannot commit to it and be available my personal opinion at all times then maybe you should not dedicate your time to it because last year I tried to get the Pulte project, I tried to get people to come. Council asked for our input. I couldn't get a quorum for a very important project. I don't think that's right. I think that if you if a project comes up, you should be willing to fly back if you're going to take the summer off. In all the years that I've been on this committee, it was never a summer everybody's off type of committee. We worked year round. And now all Just sudden

to clarify what I said to Christy. The, I said if there's an application, no matter when it is, that we have an obligation to convene.

And we didn't meet that obligation, which is what bothers me. In the Pulte project, nobody would fly back for it.

The the Pulte just just to be clear, the Pulte project is not part of the Equestrian Overlay Zoning District, and therefore it was not an item officially for the committee.

Counsel asked our input.

Counsel asked and received our input because the way, the only appropriate way to do it was individual members, as I recall, giving input, and I think that happened on a timely basis.

I I'll disagree to this I'll disagree with you. But I I strongly feel that, yes, we should have quarterly meetings in place, but they should be held quarterly. It's just my opinion, guys. You guys ask for my opinion, and I'm giving you just from my years of experience that we have never been a committee that stalls in the summer.

Yeah. But even if you did it quarterly, it would be June, September, and still the summer's off.

So. All right. But if a project comes up,

Yeah, but we're all saying that. We're all saying that if a project came up, we, like, it doesn't matter. We have to fly back in a timely manner. Everybody's saying that.

That's all I want to hear.

Yeah, Thank you. Absolutely.

That's all I want to hear. I appreciate that.

Yeah.

You know, I've to tell you, from my perspective, having been on the committee not as long as you, Christy, but I think

You're getting there.

It's been

eight years.

Yeah, yeah.

Your hair is getting grayer, Exactly. Just like

My impression is that we've had a lot of talented people on the committee over the years, but to see it all come together like this, I think we've got one of the strongest committees that I've seen, you know, over the time.

Yes, and that's the feedback I've gotten

from the

council people, too. So I'm very impressed with what Yeah, they told me.

I think everybody should feel really good about Anyway, well, thanks for listening to that.

JULIE So do we need to vote on that?

Is that something we vote on, or it's a recommendation to counsel

It's that they vote on always been in place. I'm not sure why we have to vote on it, because it's always that we met quarterly. Okay. A change. And if something came up, we had a meeting. Mean, correct me if I'm wrong, Jonathan, but we never really said we have to have a meeting every

The meeting schedule is quarterly, but it's within a quarter. So, I mean, you could technically meet in April and then again in October.

Right. So so I don't know why we have to change it. It's already in place is what I'm asking.

Yeah. No, more than anything,

So then if happy that's create the case, do we leave it to, I mean, this case, Glenn, to kind of say, these are the agenda items that are racking up. We should have a meeting sooner rather than later? Or how does then that work?

We'll meet as often as you guys want to.

So Well, I mean, that's another way of doing it is, like, we say, okay, here are the meetings, right? Let's say January, April, September, December. I'm just throwing something out. But then Glenn, you know, obviously, you know, Glenn as chair probably speaks to you guys the most, or maybe not, maybe you do. I mean, I don't know. I know it's not me.

see quite, we see quite a bit, and

if there's

One of you guys, like, sees something, and you're like, hey, guys, like, pile's getting thicker, the night's getting longer, maybe we should throw something out there. And have a standing, like, first Wednesday of the month, just in case.

But I do like your point about having those two meetings Two meetings, during yeah.

Well, I think we already even agreed that next year one of the meetings has to be an open forum and the big thing. Right.

Yeah.

Yeah, we'd have to bring that back. That was so successful.

So good.

It was so good. Yeah.

So my my, what I'm hearing is, for sure, we we need to meet four times per year. If we meet more frequently than that, it would be because an application is coming outside of one of the regular meetings that we said, and Or do a workshop

on something we want to work on, which we've done in the past.

Exactly. Exactly. And what I'd really love to see is if we set a planning timetable for the meetings as a committee, and, you know, which we've had some discussion on now, but if we were to formalize that, so that staff and all of us can plan accordingly. So if we just go one more step, and let's pick the dates, knowing that we can flex from those if

Yeah, we need to.

It makes sense, and if an application comes, then we have to flex from those and default to whatever that first Wednesday would be in in the month, once the application's ready to come to us. So I think I'm hearing, for sure, two meetings in season, but maybe even, if I heard it right, try to catch the beginning and the end part of the season, which might be

I mean, just jotted something down, Glenn. Don't know your thoughts. Like, exactly as you said, the two in season January and March, the end of season being like this one, May, and the beginning of the season being like November, with then, as needed, in the middle.

You'd be missing a quarter in there.

Yeah. Oh, so then October.

Well, I think you're September,

actually. What?

You have January to March, and then April to June.

So January to March, we would have two. April to April to whatever, we'd have May. July.

Right. And then July to September.

Oh, you have to have one per quarter.

Per quarter, yeah.

So then I guess the November game adds to that you move September to November to September.

I'll I'll get a I'll get it I'll verify that with the village attorney. But that's the way I read it.

Okay. Yeah. So let's let's hold off till our

Yeah.

And you schedule five to Exactly. I mean

okay. Well, let's hold off till our next meeting to get the clarification, but I think the principle is what I was looking for tonight, which is, you know, target the four meetings per year, and and as needed for applications, if it's in between, that's fine. Yep. But, yeah, Jonathan, if you and I could work with Laurie on on the interpretation just so that we can we can form. But I think the the principle of trying to to make sure that we're meeting in season is is really a good one, and that that works really well for the two quarters that span the season.

And what did with the opening it up counts as a meeting, right?

You're talking about

the I think we

had it on

a meeting date.

We had it on a Okay, so it counted as a meeting. Yeah. Right, okay.

Absolutely. And I think that's a great way to do a meeting, you know, where you really get the community input invited and facilitated.

We

absolutely should be doing that, in my view.

Good. Okay. Sweet. All right. So we have this, right? Any staff comments?

Yes. Had a quick update on the projects that we've been working on and a whole slew of questions that you guys have had over the past several meetings. Kyle's here to give you a quick update on that.

Okay. Thanks.

Go from right here. So, yeah. So I'll I'm just gonna go over basically a brief overview of all the projects we've been working on. You know, last year's projects and then some of the ones that you guys, had as a priority. So this is our project list.

As you can see on it, we've got the the pink trail fencing south on South Shore, South Of 50th Street to 57th Place. And then we've got the Palm Beach Point Bridal Trail extension, which is the one you guys just talked about that goes from Greenbrier down to the Yellow Trail on the C23 Canal. And then we've got the C2 Canal Culvert extension, which is the one you guys talked about, on Owsley. And that one will connect to the existing trail there and where the existing, but get the horses away from the lift station and the roundabout. And then we have the C23 Multimodal Pathway And Bridal Trail.

That's the one they came last time, right?

Correct. It's on the yellow trail. Basically it's West Of Palm Beach Point Boulevard between Flying Cow Road and Palm Beach Point Boulevard. So we're looking at that currently, doing some analysis on that. We also have the gray trail fencing, which that is actually going to extend essentially from the, Northwest corner of Equestrian Club, and then on the West Side of MPC up to South Fields. And then we also have the Saddle Trail Hawk Crossing, which you guys are all pretty aware of, kind of at the showgrounds in Pearson. So I'll go through I'm I'm gonna go through have a slide for each one just so you can kinda see where they are.

That's for the summer.

The summer.

The summer.

Well, hold on. I'm sorry. Sorry. Design for summer was the Palm Beach Point Bridal Trail and the C2 Culvert. So we're fast tracking those so that we can get those under construction by next summer.

Okay.

Yes, correct. Just to confirm, one thing that we did talk about and we're going to add to this summer was just the Bridal Trail South on South Shore, South Of Indian Mound to 50th Street, there are some open drains.

Yep, that's correct. So that project, I discussed that with Public Works. So as part of this project, they're going to actually complete those in house. There are some currently that are there, The wing fences around the the inlets. But there are some that are missing off of some of the other inlets. So they're going go ahead and add those in house. So those are all north of 50th Street. But for this particular project, it's about 4,000 feet of the two of the three rail fencing, just our standard. So we're working with Public Works to obtain quotes from contractors for that. That's a little bit out of their scope, that length of project. So they're going have a contractor to do that. So we're hoping to

get We'll be doing it this summer. Okay. Yeah. So

the next project, this is the one, we talked about Palm Beach Point Boulevard to the Yellow Trail. So we we are waiting on a proposal from a design consultant. This is going to require some minor drainage improvements and then, you know, relocation of the existing multimodal pathway and installation of the bridal trail. This is the project at Owsley. The goal for this project is we'd like to fill a portion of the canal by extending those culverts.

Mhmm. I think one of the main complaints previously was about the guardrails, which are kind of required based on how close it is to the roadway. Mhmm. So the idea is to hopefully extend that out far enough that we aren't required to have the guardrails there, and then relocate the trail so it's a little further away from the lift station in case the alarm goes off. So we have engaged with one of our design consultants for that and we're waiting on a proposal from them to complete that work.

So this is the yellow trail one we talked about with the multimodal pathway and the bridal trail. We're kind of looking at this two different ways. You know, there's the potential that you could fill a little bit of the canal or it may just be cheaper just to relocate the multimodal pathway and get the proper separation. So we're kind of looking at that both ways. So, it's in the design phase right now.

And then this is the Gray Trail fencing we talked about. It's west of MPC. We are again, for that one, we're waiting on a quote from a contractor to install that fencing. So they'll be installing essentially, openings at the Northwest Corner of Equestrian Club, and then also a trailhead up at the South Fields Road crossover there.

Right. And we we need coordination and and agreements in place with MPC as well.

Mhmm. Uh-huh.

Nice. And then this is the, the Saddle Trail, the Hawk Crossing. So, for that, we did receive the study back. So one of the one of the big questions was is whether or not it was, going to warrant an actual traffic signal or just the enhanced crossing. Which it did not warrant the traffic signal, but then the based on their judgment, Hawk Crossing was warranted. So we have the study back and we're waiting on a design proposal to have that fully designed and then move forward.

All right. And this one we're hoping for completion before next

Season?

West Main season. We get to a point where construction of the Hawk Crossing would inhibit the you know, make it make it so that it conflicts with the with the horses and we would punt it a year. We're hoping we're hoping not though, because it's a pretty simple project.

Is the cost of the actual device has that stayed pretty stable?

Yeah. We'd be looking into, a span wire system to save on cost. So it's it's it's just like a typical signal, traffic signal, you see, just with a different configuration with the two reds and the yellow on the bottom. And then it's pedestrian activated or equestrian activated on demand. Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah. So it's button. It's like a push button then to actually operate it?

Yeah. It's a push button. And unfortunately, Ash, the well well intentioned idea of putting in the remote sensor for it to go it caused more problems than it was worth. They actually ended up removing it because it was, it it it kept resetting the system. They just they just couldn't get it to work properly. And that was what a lot of coordination with the vendor, and, their recommendation at the end of the day was was to just get rid of it. So so we Was

it just just, like, sheer volume of horses and traffic?

Just Yeah.

Screwed it up?

Yep. That's exactly what happened. Yep. Yeah. Okay.

Fair enough. We'll have to try.

Yep. Yeah.

So that concludes kinda the projects that we're working on right now currently for this summer. So Great.

Yeah. We don't wanna leave you guys hanging. I know you guys ask questions every every meeting, and we've we have been compiling them on on a spreadsheet. And this is, you know, this is the culmination of that Yeah. Of all the questions you guys have been asking. Ask.

Very helpful.

If you

have That's a great recap. Yep. It's a great recap. You guys will be busy this summer. Thank you.

Yes, we will. This is an important you, roadblock projects we got going on.

You do. You do have a lot.

Okay. Okay. Good.

Thank you.

All right. Any more comments from the Board? No. I think we have two public comment folks.

We have to make a motion to open.

Oh, can I get a motion to open the meeting?

I'll make a motion to open public comment.

I'll second that. All in favor? Aye.

Okay.

Ralph Hodges?

You've got to come up here

and state your, introduce yourself, state your address. Either one.

Ralph Hodges, 2419 Muir Circle, Wellington. My question was the status of the new global. Your earlier discussion addressed most of that. I would just hope that the qualitative aspects of the projects are being evaluated and overseen because the one comment by September is gonna be a fait accompli. The other part is that somewhat of a catch 22.

The issue of attracting sponsors, the impediment of not permanent structures, the quality of the structures. So if you don't build them, they won't come. If they won't come, then you have the issue of is the project gonna meet the business aspects that are a part of it. So thank you for your earlier comments.

Sure, thank you.

I can address something a little Well, so it's actually really interesting. So, and okay, this is on air and, you know, whatever, so I'm gonna be very careful. You? Careful. I'm gonna try to be very careful.

Let's just say it like that. At the very end of season was the Rolex million dollar Grand Prix. And I know a few of the people that work on the sponsorships for Rolex globally. All of what happened with Murray happened, and everything on social media was calling for his termination. At the end of the day, the question also came not just from residents and horse people and whatever, but also do sponsors want to be associated with that kind of I don't know, whatever you want to call it.

Like, Okay, this isn't a court of law, so I'm certainly not throwing anyone under the bus here. But they were conversations that were being had. In part of that, one of the conversations that I had had with somebody with Rolex was, exactly as this gentleman kind of pointed out, was if it's not the best of the best, does Rolex want to be here? And they were having those questions internally. So if they were having those questions and the only reason why I'm bringing it up is because if they were having those questions internally, I know they were having them with WLP.

And if WLP is kind of already aware that one of their biggest sponsors expects more out of a venue, I'm hopeful because, as we all kind of said, Paige has been very receptive, that their ears are alert. And that's kind of all I'm going to say. I don't have any information, except, like, except like the hearsay, the hearsay, the hearsay, the hearsay, but somewhere in the hearsay, I'm sure there is fact. It's, but my point is still, like, I think everybody is full on aware of the expectations and what's at stake. Not just housing.

You know,

that's my opinion.

Okay. Thank you. All right, Elizabeth. Next public comment comes from Elizabeth Pandich.

Hello. Elizabeth Pandich, 1903 Oakberry Circle. This I just wanted to make a comment going back to I understand the Indian ideal world, or at least for me and I feel like most, getting rid of 6.8.8, hold on tight, knock on wood, do whatever you have to do. I don't think that takes away from the fact that there were a lot of clerical definitions. Doctor.

Lund, I remember you during a lot of the meetings being very specific. Well, what does equestrian lifestyle mean? What does this mean? What does that mean? So while we are holding on for hopefully 06/2008 to expire, You know, looking at 06/2006, there's still a lot of terminology that I feel is vague and I think is really the duty of this committee to slap some definitions on.

When I looked back at some of the drafts that were the attachments, there was language that was conflicting. There was language that was grammar. Really basic things, I think if we can really tighten up definitions. Because the ones that I saw in that packet, there were two glossary of terms. There's a lot more terminology out there. And I think if we can have terminology which fluctuates just like farm product, that changed at the state level. These are all moving targets that we need to stay current with, so then when the opportunity or the situation arises, we've already had those accepted definitions in our pocket

in

a glossary of terms. And I think the Equestrian Preserve Committee should be the duly authorized person to define equestrian terms for the town of Wellington, not for the horse world in general. Thank you. Thank you.

JULIE All

right. Anything else? Can I get a motion to adjourn?

JULIE I'll make a motion to JULIE

adjourn.

Second.

All in favor?

And now a motion to adjourn.

Motion to adjourn.

I'll second.

Are we off the air yet? Yes.