Plan Commission - Regular Meeting

I mean, most people. Just at the bottom. Okay. Good evening everyone. You are attending an urbanism commission of the city of Wosso. We are on Tuesday, August 18, 2026. It is 17h02. We are in the room of the municipal council of Wosso and the quorum is reached. We declare the session open. Very well. We have signed the order of the day of this evening, the point 1. Comment on the points in the order of the day, which concerns everything that is not subject to a public hearing. So, when we address a point requiring a public hearing, you will have the opportunity. Is there anyone here for a public comment on the points in the order of the day not being the object of a hearing? You are here for the hearing. Okay. We will move on to that later. All right. In the absence of comments, we move on to the examination of the verbal trial of the ordinary meeting of July 21, 2026. I propose a motion. 2 Balkans. Supported by Barnaman. All those who are in favor of the acceptance of the verbal trial, please say for. For. The motion is adopted. The third point is the public hearing. The first point is the 3A, discussion on a conditional use permit for the 1509 East Oso Avenue in order to authorize more than one detached accessory building in the Bifamily 10 residential area. This is a TF10 area for Patrick Meyer. Of course, Go ahead if you want to express yourself on this point. Give your name and your address. Patrick Meyer, 1509 East Oso Avenue, Oso, Wisconsin, 54403. Okay. And you are the owner of 1509? Yes, sir, that's me. Okay, so you have filed a request for conditional use. Yes, sir. Do you want the staff to present the context or do you prefer to speak? Well, to begin with, I didn't know that a permit was necessary for a shelter that can be moved. It's on skates. It's not a permanent foundation and that's why I took them. Go ahead.

Thank you. So Patrick, we discovered that he had a shelter and a garage in the back that did not have a permit. We informed him and he asks, due to the number of dependencies he has, to obtain a conditional use authorization to keep those that are present. If you look at this picture in the file, the one in front is considered a shelter because it is 10 out of 16 feet and it is allowed to keep it. It actually requires a conditional use for the one behind. E is a 12 out of 24 foot garage and our municipal ordinance stipulates that any garage of more than 160 square feet must meet our building codes. Hum, but in this case, we simply ask, or rather it requires a conditional use to allow more than one independent garage. He doesn't ask for anything else. He just asks to be allowed to keep what he has.

To accept his situation as it is. Okay. Yes, sir. And I just want to say that I am a former fighter from Vietnam. I spent 16 months in combat. I was shot down in a helicopter. I was injured by an explosion. I lost 30% of the hearing of my left ear. I have skin cancer. J'ai des hémorroïdes et je crois toujours en mon pays. C'est juste pour vous dire que je ne savais pas que c'était mal. Vous savez, je n'ai pas enfreint les règles de la ville ou quoi que ce soit avant de la prendre. Donc, ce n'est pas une audience pour porter un jugement là-dessus. We will examine what you have presented and we will make a decision regarding the demand for conditional use and whether it is appropriate. So, this will be tonight's audience and we will come back to it during the next one for approval. Yes, okay. This also gives the neighbors the opportunity to oppose if they want to and if there is someone here, they are invited to express themselves tonight. But if you are the only one to speak in favor tonight, well, I would like to intervene. My friend Jeff Trass would like to express himself if possible. Of course. My name is Jeff Trassa. I live at 157129 Landar Road in Vassa. Hum, Pat has been a friend for many years and it was very worrying when he received the letter from the city. We talked about it with guys around a cafe, and he had problems because of his fights in Vietnam, and he said things that made us very uncomfortable. I went to see Bill, we talked about it, and I said that a little thing like this could become something very serious for him. Pat said he couldn't sleep at night for weeks. He was doing nightmares and things like that. I was just trying to help him get through this challenge by taking it into consideration. And I guess I'm just asking that. His neighborhood has suspicious buildings all along. Hum, none of these people showed up to say, hey, I don't like what Pat is doing here. He has a clean and well-maintained property. Adjacent properties are not like that. And it is doubtful that one of them has never obtained a building permit. So, I just want to make sure you understand Pat's situation and that he is a hardworking person who fought for the country. So, thank you, please, and I recommend you not to do too much for that. Do we have another comment? I have a question. For how long have these buildings been there? About. For a while, sir. Okay. Okay, that's good. Yes, madam. Hello, my name is Carla Westcott. I live at 1312 Sherwood Circle, Wozo, Wisconsin, 54403. And I represent the owners of 1505 East Park Avenue and the two Joukstan waves, 1505 East Park Avenue. I don't know if we could go back to your photos so that you can see exactly where we are with the view together. Is there another one maybe? Or not? Okay, right there, okay. Do you see the green? If you could move your screen up a little. Oh, here it is. One of our vacant properties is just south of the Pâtes property and we have absolutely no problem with the fact that it is these buildings there, storage buildings or garages. They, they are very well maintained. Pat is a wonderful neighbor, really wonderful. They, and I'm a little shocked that it was raised as if it was a big problem. And I realize that there are rules and regulations for the city. However, along this block of Park Avenue, we have one. Part of the three acres that are in the city of Wozo while we have two. The rest all around us is part of the city. So, even the road, you know, in this area of ​​the city of Wosso needs a little more attention than the road further east on Park Avenue which belongs to the city. And there are also other buildings, as Jeff said, other things along the side of the city of Park Avenue which are probably more problematic for me than the PATH buildings. Le premier étant l'entreprise d'élagage plus proche de la 18ème rue dans la ville de Wozo qui gare constamment son camion sur Parc Avenue, et il est là jour et nuit, tous les jours. J'espère donc que quelqu'un du service d'inspection fera peut-être un petit tour plus à l'est sur Parc Avenue pour jeter un oeil à ça aussi. Donc, mais encore une fois, aucun problème avec les bâtiments là-bas. Donc, merci beaucoup. Merci. Commissaire, avez-vous des questions pour... For Patrick or for the staff? Mr. Bournemann, I just have one. Is it close to the rule on impermeable surfaces? It's hard to say after that. It looks like the field is very long with a lot of space. It's seven tenths of an acre, sir. Seven tenths. Seven tenths of an acre and I have seven tenths of an acre on the other side of the street. Yes, it doesn't match at all. No, okay. Mr. Meilleur, just a question. Are you the gentleman who put a sign on the road saying that we had better roads in Vietnam? Yes, sir, it's me.

Okay. Well, you will be happy to learn that in our order of the day is the project of the highway 52, so... Thank you. Maybe that, maybe that will help you sleep better.

Yes, well, I suffer from post-traumatic stress, so... Yes, okay. It's difficult to overcome them. Very well. Thank you. Thank you. Seeing no other questions, is there anyone else who would like to express himself on 1509 Histoise Avenue? Very well, we will close the audience and this point will be in order the next day and the Commission will make the decision on the conditional use permit. Very well, thank you. The next point is the 3B, discussion on the reasoning of the 117 and 121 South Second Avenue from a mixed-use urban area to a mixed-use neighborhood area to allow a minimal surface of weaker land and greater flexibility of water division. And it's Christine, under Christine Peirce. Help me with this one. Zibo Fabry. doing business under the name of ZioFab Fabri LLC and you are at the doorstep. So go ahead. Well, if Mr. Heber could first give a little context. Like Mr. Meyer, I didn't know I had to be a thinker. That's why I'm here, just to take care of the first step. Just for the record, you are Christine Pierce, 117 to 121 South 2nd Avenue, representing Zialfabri. Okay, Christine. Thank you, Mr. Herte. Thank you. So, Ms. Pierce came to see us to ask for the possibility of dividing the lot into two plots. But according to the current zoning, we need a 10,000 square feet of land and they are just below this requirement to be able to divide it in two. So, the recommendation of the staff was to put it in a mixed-use neighborhood area, which is on the same floor as the house. You can see on the map here, the property of Miss Pierce is highlighted in yellow and everything that is on the other side of the street is a mixed-use neighborhood area. So, this would allow a smaller size of land and it could divide the land into two different plots. Can you show the photo of the buildings?

I don't have it. We don't have an image, but we could display it on Google Maps. Proche. Je ne sais pas. It's at the angle of Alexander and Second. There you go.

So, the two buildings divide the property, it seems. All right. Very well, go ahead. Did you have anything else to add to this subject?

Non, je suis juste là pour commencer les démarches afin de me permettre peut-être de trouver deux propriétaires différents.

D'accord, à un moment donné dans le futur. Il est donc assez évident que les deux bâtiments sont indépendants. Il se trouve qu'ils sont séparés par… En effet. Oui, oui. Eux, à une époque, ils étaient reliés par une structure métallique de fortune entre les deux, qui a été retirée en 2004 ou 2005. They have both had two distinct addresses since. I don't know, Bill, you may know. I have no idea, but it's been over 20 years. Okay, thank you. Questions for Christine or the staff? Well, not seeing any, does anyone else want to express himself? Le raisonnage de cette propriété de la seconde avenue. Bien, n'en voyant aucun, nous clôturons l'audience. Et passons à la discussion et à l'action éventuelle sur le point 4. Et ce premier point est. Encore ce point, je vais le relire. It is a matter of discussion and possible action concerning the zoning of 117 and 121 South Second Avenue, from a mixed urban area to a mixed area of ​​quartiers, to allow a minimal surface of the water more weak and greater flexibility in the division of the water. For Christine Peirce ZOOFELD Motion of ZUILBURY Thank you for coming. The next point is State Highway 52. East Wasso Avenue, from North 6th Street to North 18th Avenue, flat transport project, identifying projects TPP 699-0000-01. I would be available to... Well, let's listen to a presentation of the staff on this subject. Eric, Mr. Limite. So, these projects have already been presented to the Urbanism Commission concerning the DOT projects. It is therefore the transport project plan that defines the potential properties that we will have to acquire, whether by TLE or by permanent purchase. So, once approved here, it will go to the council. Once the council has approved it, the real estate agent will begin to contact the owners. However, and as most of you know, there are many properties along this highway. So, question of the commission for the staff. Not seeing any, I will be available to receive a motion. Approval of the motion. Motion of Bugaman, supported by Balkan. All those who are in favor of the acceptance of the transport plan project, please say, for. For, someone opposes it, it is adopted. The next point is 4C, discussion and action possible on the approval of a conditional use permit for 151 Mechondo Street to allow the construction of a assisted living facility in a mixed-use area on the outskirts of the city center. It is a DPMU area. For Beacon Resources LLC. I am ready to receive an approval motion. Motion of Bujerman, supported by Barnaman. Questions for the staff, we have representatives here. Since there are none, all those who are in favor of the approval of the conditional use permit for the 151 Meshondo Street, let's say, for someone who opposes it, it is adopted. The 4D point is a discussion and a possible action on the approval of a sign perpendicular to 525 North 3rd Street in the mixed-use area of the historic city center for Finishing Touch Signs LLC. I am ready to receive a motion. Motion of Balkans, supported by Watson. Questions for the staff on this subject? Monsieur Bugamin.

Monsieur, sera-t-il possible un jour d'habiliter le personnel à approuver les enseignes à l'avenir?

Nous pouvons l'ajouter à la liste des amendements. Okay, the staff examined this file well. This corresponds to the dimensions and the distance from the building. Is the clearance height respected? Did we answer this question? We must, we must check. I spoke to the company that will install it and they understood this requirement. Okay. Well, it seems, Mr. Bugman, that the staff is in control of the situation. Okay, very good. With a motion and support, all those in favor of the approval of the teaching at 525 North 3rd Street, please say for. Anyone opposed? It is adopted unanimously. Very good. Point 5 is a point of discussion and it has been reintroduced. This is a preliminary discussion on the amendment of the Code concerning data centers. Nous avions quelques recommandations suite à l'adoption du projet initial pour réexaminer périodiquement s'il y avait des changements nécessaires et je ne sais pas si le personnel a reçu des demandes ou des suggestions. Mr. Edmondson. Yes, thank you, Mr. Mayor and member of the Urbanism Commission. During the meeting of the Municipal Council on July 14, the Council adopted the amendment to the zoning ordinance as recommended by the Urbanism Commission, with a modification. They added a 200-foot distance requirement in relation to residential properties. This was therefore adopted. At the end of the meeting, a request was made for the adopted ordinance to return to the Commission of Urbanism in order to examine any additional modifications. E. This is subject to your attention tonight for a preliminary discussion, and we also sent an email to the ancients after the publication of the dossier of the Commission of Urbanism, asking them to meet us specifically or to share their requests or concerns. We have not received any feedback. We also reminded them that they could wish to be present tonight if they wanted to address points that, according to them, had been omitted. But I would like to reiterate that the team is satisfied with the ordinance as it has been adopted. I have also received calls from other municipalities asking us for the terms used, our reasoning and the reflections that support this decision. We are therefore satisfied with the current situation. But we are certainly willing and open to proceed with any modification if elements are brought to our attention. For the moment, we are satisfied with what has been adopted and we simply follow the instructions of the Council to submit this file to the Commission of Urbanism again. Okay. Comments or suggestions, Mr. Balkan?

From a procedural point of view, I have never seen the Council modify the ordinance that we approved and then send it back to us. Modify. I don't understand how this is happening. I would understand if the council rejected our suggestions, I'm used to it, but I've never seen them modify a text and send it back to us. I don't know what power we have now. They can modify it. I imagine. My concern is to know which one it is. Exactly.

Yes, look how the council represents. I think we just want it to stay on their radar. I don't think people say, oh, it's horrible. Or I think we really appreciate what's in place. I just think we don't want it to be neglected, and if something new has to happen, we want to stay vigilant. And I imagine that's what we hoped this committee would do. I imagine that if something happened that needed a change, do you think it will be a point of perpetual discussion ? I would suggest that this is a case-by-case discussion. For now, I think the situation is good, and I have seen information about Wisconsin Rapids where they recently added restrictions, but as they did after receiving a proposal from a data center, the ordinance does not apply retroactively to this project. Officially enrolling allows us to establish these limits, these zoning restrictions and the examination process, because an order requires a preview. This is not a simple resolution that we can modify. So I think we have to be careful with the frequency, but if something happens, we should examine it. Councilor Watson. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I agree. I just think that we don't want to be taken for granted or ignore something that could change. But I think the staff is well aware, especially thanks to the consortium with which you have worked, isn't it? I think the big concern is that something is taking us by surprise. We must therefore keep this in mind, without necessarily having a monthly discussion, maybe an annual or biannual point. Okay. Mr Balkan.

I think it was part of our initial discussion. We can modify it as we go along. So I have no problem with this point. The problem I have is that the council changes the text and sends it back to us asking, is it good like that, no? For me, it's acting the other way around. If they wanted to make changes, they shouldn't have adopted it.

We have, but we will soon have the official answer. Lawyer of the city, can I make a comment, please? I beg you, lawyer, good question. The council did not send it to the urbanism commission, which is a motion they can make for any subject in discussion. If they take a measure or not, they can vote and adopt motions to send files there from where they come, with instructions for a more in-depth examination. They added the small detail mentioned by Kari, a minor addition that did not substantially modify the ordinance written by our office. They, we added it. They therefore approved an amendment, but without return. It was at the end of the meeting that Councilor Troublod, I believe, wanted to ask for a reconsideration, and there was a certain confusion about the fact of submitting the same ordinance to the order of the day of the next Council. Normally, you would only reconsider a point if new information appeared, likely to change the vote of the member who voted with the majority. This did not happen to them. And I don't think it's in the order of another council, but the idea, as Sarah said, was to try to stay informed in case a jurisprudence would come out, or if another community would report a change requiring our examination. Le mieux que nous puissions faire pour répondre à la demande du conseiller Troublod était de le remettre à l'ordre du jour de la commission d'urbanisme, sans directive claire sur ce que vous étiez censé discuter. Il ne vous a donc pas été renvoyé par le conseil.

Just so you know, if it's understandable. Yes.

If I remember correctly, at the last meeting of the Urbanism Commission, he had asked for it to be put in order of the day. Correct. Okay. Periodically. Yes. That's it. And that's very good too. You can do that and do the point. Yes. Okay. I join Bruce. I am quite satisfied with what we have. Okay. Thank you. Anyone else? Very good. This closes this point of the order of the day and the end of the order of the day. Oh, do we have the date of our next meeting? Do we already know it? September 15th. September 15th. It will be published. Very well. Motion to raise the session. Bugaman. Supported by Watson. All in favor? See you soon. Leave. I spoke to my family. He just hit it hard enough when he got it.