Plan Commission - Regular Meeting

15 seconds. You ready? Use this You got the you're recording. Okay. Okay. Brady in the back. Good evening everybody. You are at a plan commission of the city of Wasa. It is Tuesday, June 17th, 2025. It is 5:00 pm and you are at city hall council chambers. We do have a quorum present. And item number one for consideration is the approval of the minutes from May 20th, 2025. Would entertain a motion from Bornean. Second from Bugamin. Those in favor signify B. Let me ask is there any changes? Get a chance to review it. Those in favor signify by saying I. I. Any opposed? And that passes. First item up is uh item two for public hearing. It's discussion on approving a conditional use permit for 2811 West Wasaw Avenue to allow construction of a multiplex which are three to four units per building within the two flat residential 10 the TF10 zoning district. We would entertain a motion. Well, actually we I don't think we need a motion. We can open up the hearing. We're going to open up the hearing on that item. Is there anyone here that would care to speak to that item for 2811 West Los Avenue? Anything beyond what's in the package? Well, the the the public hearing is is going to solicit I mean you'll have another opportunity another day when we

when we discuss and vote on it. But if you're looking to speak to the public hearing portion of it, which is uh set by by ordinance uh or municipal code. So we'll it's your option, but I will have to announce it three times. So the public hearing is open for 2811 West Wasa Avenue if you'd like any public comment. Last call for 2811 West was Avenue. Okay, we'll close the public hearing. Seeing no comments, another public hearing on uh is item number three, and this is discussion on approving a conditional use permit for 508 East Wasaw Avenue to allow construction of an off- streetet parking lot with the two flat residential 10, which is a TF10 zoning district. That public hearing is open. Anyone looking to speak to 508 East Wasa Avenue? 508 East Avenue public hearing going twice. I just want to note there there's a printed email copy in front of all the commissioners that we did receive late today. So that was submitted as part of the public hearing for today. That's this piece here. Yes. Yep. Okay. So, for the record, we have public comment from Shannon Joerger, 510 East Wasau Avenue. That's the property directly to the east of the subject property. Okay. So, that's entered into the record. Do we need to read this? Um, yeah. I spoke with Shannon earlier. I I mentioned that we probably wouldn't read it word for word, but we would acknowledge that we did receive it. um just to highlight some of the concerns

uh the landscaping and separation between this property and her property. Uh she had questions about the snow removal and maintenance. Uh so there was a fence that was located on the property on the subject property that was removed and there was some concern during that process of u some ruting of the of her property as well as some firewood that was removed. Um there was some placed back there, but um there's still she still has some um it wasn't satisfactory to her. Um you know, compared to what she had there previously, uh she had concern about the lighting and as well as the bike rack placement. So um yeah. Okay. So this is the the parking lot for uh wait a minute. Yeah. for athletic park for athletic park. There's a rendering of it on the screen here. It's just a seven stall uh accessible lot for the right athletic park and I get just as part of the process. This is the public hearing. We will come back next month uh with a recommendation and for this body to take action. Okay. So, that will be in the packet if we if anyone wants to review that. Last call for any other public comment on 508 East Wasaw Avenue. Seeing none, we'll close that public hearing. Next up is a discussion and possible action. This is item four for the specific implementation plan for 1040 South 12th Avenue. Would entertain a motion. Motion from Bugamman. Second from Larson. Comments, discussion. You can go ahead, Brad. Yeah, thank you. Uh, so we did receive updated plans just recently, I

believe yesterday. Um, those are also passed out for the meeting. Uh, the hard copies here and what's on the screen is the previous version. Um, we did we didn't update that digitally yet, but so I guess the changes were minimal. Um they were to address some of the concerns that staff had pointed out in the the staff report. Uh mainly with the amount of windows that are on the front and sides. Um that was addressed in the new plan. You can see there were windows added uh specifically in the bedrooms in the front and also on the bathroom on the side. Um we had requested some additional information that that was provided um mainly with a site plan and the the distances of the driveways. We just wanted to ensure that that was long enough to hold a vehicle outside. Uh they're showing 18 feet on that driveway which I believe bill is the minimum length for that we require for a parking stall in the city. So that that would meet the minimum there as well as the the distance to the property line from the driveway uh to that north property line is over 5T. We'd be looking for five feet there as well. So that that meets that. Um just going through some of the other things. Um this terrain plan that's shown the new one. Um that's the that does have the dimensions on there that we just talked about. Um it is sort of the landscaping plan showing the trees and bushes. Um it doesn't have the specific species or size, but it does show the location of of where those would be located. I guess you know one thing that staff had suggested was a calculation on the imperous surface of the lot.

In the duplex zoning, normally it's 55% max impervious surface. Um, we just wanted to get a sense of of what's being proposed. Um, they're, you know, just eyeballing it, it looks like it could be close, but we don't have the exact percentage to give you. Um, we are dealing with a smaller lot as noted during the general plan. It's, um, that's kind of why we or the petitioners wanted the PUD to for that flexibility for a smaller lot than than normal. So, I guess we did kind of want to get an an estimate of that impervious calculation uh just to know what what we're dealing with here. But other than that, the the new plans uh you know, do address the concerns that were uh brought up by staff and you know, there are still some things as noted too with the the permitting process that we normally take care of. Uh you know, the fencing would would be looked at a little more closely and any building lights that would go on the building. just want to make sure that those comply with our zoning as well. So I guess you know we have been working with the petitioners along the way from the initial concepts through the general plans and now the specific plans we think it's it's going in a a good direction. Okay. Thank you. Is that is that a staff function to to calculate that 55% or we looking at um generally we ask for the the petitioner to calculate that? I mean, I we could try to take some measurements, but it might not be the most accurate. So, um I think a gentleman has a comment if Mr. Craigs. All right. Uh yes. Good evening everybody. I'm Jay Cricggs with Northstar Builds. I guess uh my main question would be the impervious plan is that because we're looking for rain runoff and where that water would be directed because I I we had a conversation prior to this meeting today and I think we

were going to direct that into the um um into the uh like the um like the water runoff area where you can tie right in. So we'd have basically we tie the gutters right in and there wouldn't be tons of water runoff from the roof line. It would be directed right into the um like the wastewater storm sewer. Yeah, storm sewer. That's what I meant. Not the waste water. Storm sewer. So, I wanted to address that. and also in regards to and the landscaping plan. A lot of that stuff was put on there, I guess, for illustrative purposes, but if there is a specific list of plants that are preferred in the city of Wasa, we'd be more than happy to take a look at that list and pick something that would flow nicely with the other properties on on Thomas. So, just wanted to throw throw that in there if there's any other ideas or questions. I can get the imp the I guess the percentage if that's needed. But if it's not an issue because we're gonna direct the water specifically to, you know, a certain area, just let me know. I can get that stuff if necessary. Okay. Thank you, Mr. Lars. Uh thank you, Mr. Chair. I I just want to this this happens to be in my district and I have and want to thank the the contractor here for um you know not only listening to the committee here but listening to the residents here about and taking the the parking concerns into consideration here and and solving that is that that issue. So uh thank you very much. I I think um you know it's a nice way to to come in a neighborhood, you know, when when when you have nobody against you. So, thanks again. Absolutely. Our designer came up with it. We were all scratching our heads and she's like, "Why don't we come in behind and push everything this way?" I'm like, "Thank you, Adie. Thanks for figuring this out." So, I think she did a great job. Thank you. It looks good. And anything else, Brett? Yeah, I guess just on the

comments of the imperous surface. I mean, that's a standard that's baked into our zoning code. Um, I guess for the intent of it, you know, the uh the storm water is and the the runoff is a concern is why it's in there, but also just the buffer between neighborhoods. It's a residential neighborhood, so you don't want all, you know, pavement. You want some greenery kind of softens the the landscaping. Um, you know, urban heat island effect, things like that. is just I guess it's better for surrounding properties and the general public to have that at least some green space on the site, but runoff is a major concern as well. We'll certainly have more visible green space than the other I think the bleaker properties to the east of us. Those will literally concrete right to the sidewalk where you're going to see green pretty much around. Can you step to the front? We just get this on record. Sure. So, if you look to the the properties just to the I think it's to the east of us, they're like kind of gray and blue, light blue. I think they're blinker properties, but uh those properties go right to the sidewalk. There's no visible green space. It's it's concrete right to the the patio and then straight up with siding. So, if I mean this vis there's visible green space all the way around the buildings, in between the buildings, on the back side of the buildings. though. Uh I know we're close, but there certainly is. I mean, you'll be walking, you know, basically down the sidewalk and there'll be a nice green lawn with nicely landscaped stuff opposed to you go through that next intersection and it's all concrete. So, that's just my two cents. The rendering looks good. Thank you. Anything further? We have a motion and a second to accept the specific implementation plan for 1040 South 12th Avenue. Oh. I just have a a question, Brad. What What happens if in the final calculation

of the U lot that it is not 55%. Is it something that you work or do you have that leeway because it's a a POD to u Yeah, let it go. Sure. Well, normally if it was a standard zoning district, I think we'd work with the petitioners to get it to that percentage. Um, in this case, you know, we don't have the exact percentage. So, we're just kind of the PUD is flexible, so it could be approved at a lesser or I'm sorry, if it's maximum at a greater percentage of impervious if that's if the committee decides they want to, you know, flex on that particular standard. I think we just wanted to, you know, get a sense of it so we know if this is another standard that is being flexed or if they already meet it and don't have to do anything. I guess we just wanted to provide you guys with the information that, you know, this is where it's at. This is what it should be at. What you can still make the decision to, you know, override it and say, "Yeah, we're fine with it." Um, but I guess at this point, we're just kind of again eyeballing it and seeing if it's close enough or I mean, it's up to you guys if you want that number specifically to come back to this body. Um, that's we could certainly do that. if you want to, you know, approve it conditionally on that number, um, and that could be an option or, you know, hold off on approving it until we get that. That's I guess it's sort of up to the committee. I was kind of looking at it this afternoon and I don't think it's going to be over the threshold. There's it's roughly they could have 7,300 square feet of imp of imperous surface and the buildings are only 4,800. So, they got another 2500 of asphalt and sidewalk. So, I think you're going to be okay.

Okay. So, the motion is to to approve the the the plan without any amendments. Okay. Seeing no further discussion, all those in favor of the specific implementation plan 1040 South 12th Avenue signify by saying I. I. I. Any opposed? And that motion carries. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Craigs. Thank you. Next meeting date is set for July 15, 2025. Any objections to that? Same place, same time. Uh would entertain a motion to adjurnn. Motion from Bulan, second Larson. All in favor? Have a good night. 16 minutes. 30