Landmarks Commission - Regular Meeting

Good evening everybody. I'm going to call this meeting to order. Today is Wednesday, June 3rd and this is the Walker shot Landmarks Commission meeting. I'll start with a roll call going down to the end with Marty please. Marty Larson Linda Gordo, Andrew Durantes, Carmen Delapaz, Mike Christine, Tony Alonzo, Matt Redsack. Thank you. We're going to go on to start with any public comment. If anybody's here for any public comments. Going, going, gone. Thank you. Moving on to the approval of minutes. Item number 26-03187, meeting minutes for March 11th, 2026. I am looking for a motion.

I'll make a motion to approve the March 11th meeting. A second.

Mike Christine, a second. Thank you. A second. Thank you so much. We'll vote when Maria is ready. Maria is ready.

Abstain.

Aye.

I wasn't there. Did you read the meeting minutes? Not for that much. Abstain.

Aye.

Aye. Aye. Aye.

Just for the record, so everybody knows, even if you weren't here, if you catch up by watching the video and reading the minutes, then you can vote because you're making a...

I didn't go back as far. Oh, it's okay.

I'm just letting everybody know. I totally get it. Sometimes I don't do it, but... That gives us an opportunity for everybody to vote moving on. So, the meeting minutes have been approved and we are going to go to item 2, 6, 0, 3.

To be 2 separate items, right?

We already voted for the 1st, 1, right? So we're good. So I'm moving on. Can I do that?

Sure.

Awesome. Thanks. You're good. Very excited.

You're here tonight.

All right, moving on to item 2603482, the minutes of April 8th, 2026. And I think we're going to vote for those because we didn't have enough people to vote for that last month, right?

Correct. I will make a motion to approve the April minutes ID 03482. I'll make a motion to approve April meeting minutes.

Perfect. I'll take a second from anybody. I'll second. Thank you. We'll vote.

Aye.

Aye. Aye.

Aye. Aye. Abstain.

Thank you. Okay, we're going to move on to Landmark Commission's Paint and Repair Grant Funds. And this is item number 26-03731. And Charlie will bring us up to speed.

Actually, we do have one more set of minutes.

Oh my gosh, we've been that behind?

Yeah, I'm not saying anything.

Sorry, now you're right.

I can point.

Now you can say it. Okay, we're moving on to minutes number 2603638. We are now looking for the approval of the minutes of May 6th, 2026.

I'll make a motion to approve May meeting minutes 03638.

Thank you. I'll take a second for that.

I'll second.

Thank you. And we'll vote.

Aye.

Aye.

Aye. Aye. Aye.

Aye. Aye. Aye.

Boy, we had a lot of stuff to get through, didn't we? That was good. All right, we're moving on. Now we're moving on to the Landmarks Commission Paint and Repair Grant Funds, item number 2603731. We're going to get a summary from Charlie.

All right. So as you know, paint and repair grants are approved on an increasing scale, typically 15% of the cost of a project up to a maximum of $3,000. The Landmarks Commission may use discretion to change award amounts based on project scope, overall impact, fund availability, and any other circumstances. So the total grant fund for this year is $25,000, and you've approved $10,485 of that. We do still have $2,432 left over from one 2025 project, which hasn't been completed yet. I'll try and circle back with them before the July meeting to find out what their schedule is. And that leaves $14,515 available for this year. And as always, approvals will need to be conditional on approval from Waukesha County and the SHPO compliance. And you'll have to make a finding that the work is preventing future blight.

Thank you, Charlie. We're going to move on to new business. We'll start with item number 2603637. This is the landmarks commission certificate of appropriateness for 818 North East Avenue. We're going to review a request to replace the roof on the former convent building and this is the Saint Joseph's Catholic church complex.

All right, this is the Saint Joseph's Catholic Church complex is right at the intersection of East Avenue and Arcadian Avenue. The 818 Northeast Avenue is the former convent building. It's just to the south of the church itself. So this is actually called the Martin Brown House. It was built in 1878, originally as a private residence, and it was purchased by the church to use as a convent around 1900. It had been church offices until very recently, and it's been occupied by a mission group for the last couple years. And as you can see, the roof is relatively worn. There's also a flat roof at the top level, which has a rubber membrane. The church discovered that there were some leaks in that flat roof, and initially thought they were gonna have to replace it right away. So we did approve an emergency certificate of appropriateness to allow them to get started right away. They did not end up having to do that. They were able to patch the flat roof section, and they're hoping to wait until they know the status of some potential other, mostly interior work. So they might do that work at the same time, or they might end up doing this separately. The new shingles will be Owens Corning Oak Ridge Series shingles with a brownwood color. So you can see that here in a close-up. So they are the architectural shingles with a slight shadow line. And they've also provided a rendering of it on a obviously a very different house. So again, they're replacing the shingles. New shingles will be Owens Corning Oak Ridge brownwood color. They'll also be replacing that EDPM membrane on the flat sections at the top and adding waterproofing as well. And again, the emergency COA was approved on May 13th.

Great. Thank you, Charlie. I believe that Andy is here. If you'd like to step up, please, and state your name and your address for the record.

Sure. Andy Dieske. Address is South 40, West 22221 Rolling Oaks Terrace, Waukesha.

Thank you so much for coming. Sure. And what's your capacity with the organization?

I serve as a facilities manager for all of Corpus Christi.

Perfect. Is there anything that you'd like to add to what Charlie has already stated?

No, everything, and we've had conversations too, that we'll see if this goes forward depending on the usage and other things we have to do to that building in particular, and the costs. Perfect.

Does anybody have any questions?

Thank you. One of Charlie's photos really looked like there was a tree growing into, it may have just been the wrong angle, but maybe it's, yeah, well. Depending on how it looks, it looks like the tree was growing into it, but this reveal shows any times you have someone up on the roof, it would be a good time to, unless it's a city tree, of course, and you want to touch it. But anyways, on the picture number two showed one or two trees actually growing into the roof.

Yeah, just for reference, when we did demo the rectory even before that, we did remove the other mature trees that were causing some problems.

Okay. Okay. Because the one that's even was actually growing over the rough so it sounds like you already addressed that problem and which should help longevity of the rough and any water issues with the gutters and downspouts that are attached to the property that was all my comment that I saw perfect somebody else have any questions or comments no okay I'm looking for a motion on this please

I'd make a motion to approve number 26-03713 as proposed.

I'll second that.

I think I read the wrong one.

Sorry, Carmen. Yeah, I thought so. I was like, wait. Read that number again. Reset. I'll make a motion to approve number 26-03637 as proposed. I'll second that.

I. I. I. I. I. I.

Great, you're approved.

Thank you all.

Thank you so much.

Thank you. Thank you, Andy.

And we're moving on to item 2603710 Landmarks Commission Certificate of Appropriateness for 312 East College Ave. We'd like to review a request to replace the chimney and this is part of the McCall Street Historic District.

All right. So 312 East College Avenue is on the north side of College Avenue, right between Charles and James Streets, and it is in the McCall Street Historic District. This is the Irwin and Margaret Lubbers House, which was built in 1930 and has English Revival-style architecture. And as you can see, it has an existing chimney, which extends up from right at the center of the roof. The applicant, who just happens to be City Attorney Brian Running, believes that the chimney needs to be fully demolished to the roofline and then replaced with the same dimensions as the existing chimney. It will be replaced with Cream City brick. We'll have a new concrete cap poured and then new guards added onto the flue openings there. So again, the proposal is to demolish the chimney to the roof, rebuild to match all the existing dimensions. Cream city bricks and soft mortar will be used to match the existing chimney. Normally, we would recommend that any chimney, any bricks that can be reused would be. and then also the new concrete cap and flue pipes, and a building permit is required for this work.

Perfect. Mr. Renning, if you'd like to join us, and if there's anything else you'd like to state, and you know the rule, state your name and your address. Thank you.

and running 312 East College. I really don't have much else to add. It's pretty straightforward. The chimney's in tough shape. Has been for quite a while. We've been in the house for 32 years, and when we first moved in, I did a lot of work. And now, 32 years later, well, in fact, it was June 4th, so tomorrow would be the anniversary. June 4, 1994, it was the day of OJ Simpson's white Bronco low-speed chase. But anyway, a lot of deferred maintenance type items are coming up now. So this is only the start. So I guess I'm starting at the top and gonna work my way down. The roof, there'll be some carpentry, windows, doors, all of that. So you'll probably be seeing me in here again.

It's a neat house. It's a really cool house.

Yeah, you know, it's interesting because since we've lived there, I don't know, maybe a half dozen times, we'll look out the window and there'll be somebody out there with a camera taking a picture of it. And once I said, what gives? They said, well, this is an example of a Cotswold cottage. And we wanted to get a picture of it for, I don't know, whatever reason, architecture students at UWM or something. So I... It's a nice little house, cozy little house. We raised three kids and three dogs there.

It's neat. It's very neat. Cool. Does anybody else have any questions, comments, concerns? I'm just curious if the mason that's going to do the work for you has told you how many bricks they think they can save? Because I saw some of them are pretty eaten away.

No. They've given you any... No idea. That's just curiosity. Yeah, they're in pretty rough shape.

Yeah.

They're flaking away pretty heavily. Yes, you can see one. Starting a couple years ago when I'd go up to clean the gutters, I noticed there were big flakes of the brick coming down. So, yeah, it's... Well, in fact... 28 years ago when the roof was redone, one of the guys at the time, the guy who did the flashing on the chimney said, you know, you're probably going to need to replace that chimney pretty soon. I caulked it up as best I could, but it was already in rough shape then. So I got a lot of deferred maintenance items on there.

A lot of work to do it always. That's what happens with houses. It never ends. Right? It just starts all over. Got that right? Yeah, just starts all over again. Yeah, go ahead.

Thanks for coming in tonight. My only comment is, it's very rare that someone actually wants to. I'm going to say do it the right way and actually fix something. Usually, many times people come in and just, we would like to caulk it. The roofer says we can caulk it, but it's very refreshing that someone wants to actually do it the right way. Get another 32 in one day, however that math worked out of it. So anyways, thank you for being here.

Cool. Yes.

Is your plan to then replace the roof and flashing? Because I'd hate for you to have the chimney rebuilt and then the flashing is kind of all messed up.

Well, we're going to need some roof work done. In the heavy rain that we had in April, We did have a little bit coming in somewhere, and it's really hard to trace where a roof leak is, because a lot of times it shows on the ceiling a long way away from where it actually entered. But I wanted to get the chimney work done first so that when a new roof is put on, the masons aren't tromping across the new roof to replace the chimney. I suspect that's the right order to do it in.

Yeah, they're going to have to peel away for the flashing around the base and then come back and do it again. So it's really six of one, one half of the other.

Yeah.

Okay, so I'm looking for a motion on this then.

I motion to approve the COA 30710 or 312 East College Avenue as stated.

Do I have a second? I'll second. Thank you.

Aye.

Aye.

Aye. Aye.

Aye. Aye. Aye. Thank you.

You are approved. Thank you. And we'll look forward to seeing you more often on the rest of this stuff, which means you're going to be spending money, but you know.

Unfortunately, I guess you will.

Yeah.

Do I need to stay up here?

No, you're good.

For the painter repair guy, you should stay. You shouldn't leave yet. OK.

Thank you. I did have one question. Are they putting? Like animal, I don't. I'm looking at the bid. I just see that. The crown on there. Are they putting caps on it to prevent animals? Yes, OK, I just didn't see it on there, so I want to make sure that they were doing that OK.

Thank you. OK, we're moving on to item 26 dash 03724. Landmarks Commission paint and repair grant for 312 East College Avenue.

All right. So the total estimated cost of this project is $9,800. So that's rebuilding the chimney, the chimney crown, flue pipes, and caulking. And obviously a chimney that is in disrepair can cause structural issues, water damage, and all sorts of potential problems. 15% of the cost of the project is $1,470.

Thank you. Comments? Suggestions? I'm going to just go ahead and suggest that we do the 15%, knowing that there's a lot more coming up for him, and if we can help as much as we can, I think it's what we do for everybody. So I make a motion for $1,470 for item 2503724 on Marks Commission paint and repair grant. Do I have a second? Thank you. Andrea. We'll take a vote. Marty? Aye.

Aye.

Aye.

Aye. Aye. Aye.

There you go. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, moving on to number 2603713 Landmarks Commission Certificate of Appropriateness for 353 West Broadway. We're going to review a request to replace the roof and this is in the Five Points Downtown Historic District.

All right. This is 353 West Broadway. It's at the intersection of Broadway, Clinton Street, and Riverfront Street. This is Hannon's Pub. It was built in 1885 and has Queen Anne-style architecture. Sorry, that's the wrong one. 1860, it has Romanesque Revival architecture. But it's considered to be non-contributing in the Five Points Historic District because the facade is so significantly altered. This is actually very rare. Typically, even buildings that are in bad shape that were built in the period of historic significance are considered to be contributing. But in this case, there was such significant change to the facade that it was considered to not be contributing. But as you can see, there is an existing flat roof, which is covered with a black EDPM rubber membrane. The roof is not visible from ground level at all. So you can see this is from facing across Broadway. This is the Clinton Street side. and uh the broadway side you can also see there there the um the parapet for the roof and the the roof cap there uh does have a decorative i believe that's a core bill along the the um along running along the whole parapet uh so the applicant is proposing to replace the roof with a new tco membrane which is a similar material to the edpm that's more common but it's more common for commercial buildings and typically is a white color rather than a black color. So that's the proposal. Again, that won't be visible at all from the street level. There's also a part of the proposal is to repair the concrete cap around the edges So the recommended condition for that is that any repairs to visible sections must match existing conditions. And a commercial roof replacement permit for this will be required.

Great. Is there anybody here from the property? Hi. If you could join us and state your name and your address, please. Welcome.

Thank you. My name is Samia Pickens. Address is W220S3306 Racine Avenue.

And what's your association with the location?

I am the proposed buyer of the property.

Okay. What does that mean?

We don't have a closed date yet on the actual property, but I will be closing on the business Monday. So there's actually two different transactions here. There's the... commercial side and then there's the property side. We're actually waiting for a little bit of today and to get a little more word because I did use SBA funding for the purchase of the property. So they are waiting for some SBA clearance on the historical side of things. Although we've got quite a few word and that of course it is a non-contributing. So hoping we can get that clearance more sooner than later for the property purchase side of things.

Perfect. Well, that's exciting.

It is. Thank you.

Awesome. Congratulations. I hope it goes through easily for you. Ease and grace. Ease and grace. I promise. I've had to have a lot of it. Yes. All right. So does anybody have any questions, comments, concerns? Yes, sir.

I know this is a commercial property, and obviously you're here tonight, so you have a great interest in it, and you're also working with other people to get it done. A lot of times in other city dealings, we kind of are mindful of issuing... Dollars if someone actually doesn't own the property yet, but it sounds like he is obviously in good faith And he's going to take care of it He's odd he hasn't even officially owned it yet, and he's planning on taking care of it, so I'm fine with good faith That's not an issue or okay.

He's not up for a grant.

Oh, I'm sorry Anyways, I just wanted to make sure that I mentioned that and thank you for taking care of that property before I even buy it. Thank you Thank you

Awesome. It's one of those buildings that if you grew up in Waukesha as a kid, you always remember that building. So it's neat. It's got a lot of history around here.

If I may add, you'll see me again most likely. I'm actually kind of working with Ty Taylor right now. We're going to try to see about getting approval to erect that turret that used to once be. Oh, very cool. I mean, if you see it from one of the pictures, I'm sorry, it just looks so bare at that tip because that turret is missing there. So it's just... The platform on top is still in great condition. So we want to try to see about getting that tour placed on top of there. So this won't be the only time you'll see me.

Well, awesome. Very cool. Well, great. Welcome. And that makes me happy. That makes us all very happy. So if there are no other questions, I'm looking for a... Thank you, motion. That's it.

Okay, I will motion. Mr. Patience. For 03713, roof replacement at 353 West Broadway.

I'll second.

Aye.

Aye. Aye.

Aye.

Aye. Aye. Aye.

Congratulations, you have been approved, and congratulations, I hope the sale goes through quickly for you.

Me too, as well, thank you.

Awesome, take care, we'll see you again.

Is the plan to keep it the same, or are you?

Operating as the same, yes. We gotta do some updates to kinda bring it to, I guess say more of a modernization, because it's needing right now, so.

Yeah.

I'll do that.

Are you selling your things in there, too?

I won't, unfortunately. I've tried my best to separate, so quick things like I own Vintage Grounds Coffee House in Muskego, and the only reason why products are there is because actually that coffee house reached out to me and allowed me to sell my honey products in there at first, so I do try to keep them, although we will have some honey-inspired drinks as well, so yeah. It sounds good.

Very cool. Thank you. Take care.

Thank you.

Okay, so we're moving on to 2, 6, 0, 3, 7, 1, 4 landmarks commission certificate of appropriateness for 323 McCall street. We're going to review a request to replace the tuck point at the foundation. And this is in the call street historic district.

All right. 323 McCall Street is right at the corner of McCall Street and James Street in the McCall Street Historic District. You might recognize this house. The owners received the John Schankin Act Award this year. So 323 McCall was built in 1885 and has Queen Anne style architecture. And as you can see, the foundation, as the original stone foundation, it runs around, I believe, three sides of the house, and it is in need of some tuck-pointing repair work. The existing mortar has sort of a unique profile. It comes out a little bit from the stone, and the applicants have stated that they're going to Try to maintain that profile so the new mortar will match the hardness texture and the profile of the old mortar and then the color will match as closely as possible. They'll be using a tan colored mortar rather than the standard white.

Can I see those pictures again, Charlie, please? OK. I could have the homeowners please join us at the front. State your name and your address. And welcome back. Like old home week.

And they they did actually send a thank you note for the John Shank Connect award. I haven't been able to. I haven't had a chance to email that out to you guys yet.

It was our pleasure and well deserved. Thank you. Well, first you've got to state your name and your address, just for the record, so that if anybody's reading this, they know who's talking.

Mary Louise Lillian, 323 McCall Street.

Is there anything else you'd like to add to what Charlie has stated?

I would just like to say that some of the mortar has the square raised look, and some of it has a more concave. I don't know if it has a different... You can see the difference. A more recessed... And so I think that they were talking about restoring it to what it currently looks like. It would not all be square. Does that make sense? Yeah. It would cost a lot more money.

Take a lot more time.

Also, the estimate... included an add-on that we didn't add on to the 1900. The add-on was to apply a commercial grade silicone sealer to restore the masonry surfaces after proper curing. And this helps with vapor, allowing vapor of moisture to leave the masonry and escape naturally. It helps protect the masonry from freezing and thawing, but it doesn't add any kind of a gloss. It looks exactly like uncoated. So we were wondering if If that's recommended.

Any kind of masonry or cement is going to absorb moisture and what happens is if it doesn't Freeze out, you've got two things that could happen. You could get mold, and the other thing is you can get an ice damming where it actually turns into ice and it pops off. That might be why some of your tuck pointing is no longer there, because water has gotten in, it has turned to ice, and ice is bigger than the space of the water, and it pops it off. So that's why you could like in this particular picture, you see like there's a section that looks like literally like somebody pushed it out from the outside. It was probably ice. So there are different chemicals that do this kind of stuff that they're talking about. But if it does what they say it does, it will make your tuck pointing last longer just because it's the nature of masonry and cement. and it absorbs, and in Wisconsin, that's why cement doesn't do well here. That's why we're having problems at the Memorial Parade Park, not with my sculpture, but with parts of it, it's a different material of cement, and so the moisture's gotten in, it's expanded, and it's cracked the different joinery. So my recommendation, with a humble card in my pocket is I would do it.

Yeah. The other thing is that the mortar that the builder is going to use is a lime mortar, and it's more flexible and not as brittle as Portland cement.

Softer. Softer. It's a matrix with the lime.

Yeah. So the add-on was $250 for the silicone sealer.

I think that's reasonable for the longevity that you'll get out of it.

Since you asked about 1 of the properties I manage is also historic property, but not this historic. The way it was explained to me is. It's almost like scales on a fish or a lizard, depending on the type of product they use water droplets itself, or modern water molecules. cannot enter but water vapor is supposed to be smaller it can get out so i'm expanding on what you're talking about just make sure they use the right product you don't want to truly as carmen said waterproof it because that's that's going to hold moisture in the product that hopefully and i can't not going to recommend anything but just make sure it is a water prevent a water resistant but it'll still allows what you're doing to breathe and 250 sounds like a pretty good deal and it's if they're if they're qualified to do the tuck pointing They're definitely gonna recommend the right product So it'll definitely help everything because this laws it asks to make sure it just can breathe the vapor out as Carmen say another sign that it's not Sealing it in is that it's not changing the color of the cement if it was changing the color of the cement then it's holding something in

when it gets applied. If it doesn't change the color of the cement, that means the cement can still breathe.

Yeah, I think he says that it does not change the color of the cortex.

Yeah, you mentioned that. Does anybody else have any comments, questions, concerns? Not yet. Don't leave us yet. Stay with us. Okay, I am looking for a motion, please.

I'll make a motion to provide the COA for 323 McCall Street for the requested items. Second.

I'll second that. Aye.

Aye. Aye.

Aye.

Aye. Aye.

Aye.

Thank you very much. We hope to see you again. Take care. Have a wonderful summer.

Thank you. Well, they got a paint repair brand.

Yep. Yeah, don't leave us yet. Item number 2603715. Landmarks Commission paint and repair grant for 323 McCall Street.

All right. So the total estimated cost of that work, it would be $1,900 without the add-on. That would be $2,150 with the additional $250. So 15% of that would have been 285. It's $322.50 with the additional amount. And tuck pointing masonry repair is, of course, important for the structural integrity of the house. And the foundation, obviously, is pretty key to the house's structure in general, so.

Great. I'm looking for a motion on this paint and repair grant.

I'll make a motion as read.

For the 15%? Yes. Of the new amount? Correct. Which Charlie said was 300 and how much?

$322.50. $322.50. Thank you. I'll second. Second.

Hi hi hi hi hi.

You have received 300 and.

How much 32250 32250.

I'm gonna go back. Sorry yeah right? We're going out for drinks tonight after this. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Alright, so that has been approved and thank you so much. All right, we're moving on to the Alderman's report. You're on.

Thank you. Last night we had a presentation. The city received its, I always say it wrong, the Community Development Block Grant, and Alders approved that. It was official. Jeff made a presentation on that, so we'll get our funding on that. That's what I got out of that. The other thing, I don't know if Charlie wants to expand on that, but

Yeah, we got the same $25,000. That was what we had put down in the application for, and that was what the Community Development Block Grant Committee approved. That's, of course, dependent on the federal funding. And so nothing is certain, but they've kind of told us to go ahead with a kind of business as usual, and then if there's more, they'll...

allocated based on that yes I was just part of the excitement was a nice presentation and went through Waukesha County then on to us so that's checked and that is also regulated by Waukesha County on the accounting side so they keep track of the funds so it's good that city staff in Waukesha County looks at that Something else that I had other than sharing last night's news was Waukesha Unlocked, and I know they're adding stuff. They have two days. If you guys don't know what Waukesha Unlocked is, it's basically businesses and homes and not-for-profits open up. Literally open house and it used to be every year now. It's every other year. I had the date It was I do believe it is October 10th and 11th this year It is save the date October 10th and 11th for Waukesha on lock. There's a lot of neat properties and Some historic homes that are usually on the tour and the cemetery is definitely do it again I highly recommend going down to Prairie home as they usually have a great presentation for that weekend. Thank you

Thank you. Moving on to the Springs report.

All right. I don't have anything new. We did not have the Springs cleanup on this past weekend. Tony Lanza has a group that he's working with that could potentially come in and help out with that. So we just decided to kind of delay it until we know... you know, what they're able to do and what days work best for them. So hopefully we'll be able to get that scheduled. I think as long as it happens sometime before Waukesha Unlocked, that should be fine. And the springs are in, you know, all of them are in reasonably good shape. So, you know, it's okay to go into the summer with that. And in the condition they are, we did actually finally get hobo spring drained out. And it's surprisingly clean in the spring basin. Parks Department may have actually cleaned it up for us. And we did, Alderman Cousine made a, a referral at one of the meetings in May, I believe, to have the Public Works Department study the potential for finding a long-term solution to it. I've had a brief conversation with Public Works Director about it. We'll find out what ends up coming of that, so.

i'm going to quick comment i didn't bring that up during my time to speak because i didn't want to put charlie on the spot because we were both waiting for alex so i've talked to alex on that and charlie that's why i didn't bring that up but it is being talked about so thank you good we're good with that great we're moving on to communications and publications

So the only thing I have is the July meeting is on July 1st. That's what the day is scheduled as. Oftentimes in past years, we've had to move the July meeting to the following week, depending on the availability of Landmarks Commission members. So I just wanted to bring that up to all of you to find out if you will be in town, if you can make it. If not, if you can make it the following week. i guess i don't know if i can do either okay i know i'm out of time okay i'm here i guess if we have uh five of you you know that might i i guess it's up are you here charlie i am i will be here i can be here either day so

Do you have a heavy agenda for that month yet? Do you have anything? I mean, because also, like, the community might be on vacation that month.

Yeah, I have talked to one applicant who said the 8th would work better for him. Usually we'll kind of get things in over the course of the month, and July tends to be a pretty heavy month, so.

Let's do that. yeah if that ends up being the only one maybe he'll want to wait till august i can talk to him about it but i would not expect it to be the only one yeah i if there's only one action item so far and uh barring any major requests i i would have no issue canceling the july one it is not my decision but uh Would have no problem with canceling it or having an August but I will I'm scheduled to be in town.

Thank you We can leave it for July 1st or you know if anybody is of y'all are open to considering the 8th that would work, too and

If anybody else ends up having something come up, just, I guess, please let me know, and then we can figure out whether to reschedule it.

Okay, so we're just going to go with July 1st for now, unless anything huge comes along. All right. Cool. Awesome. Perfect. And this meeting is adjourned. Thank you, everybody.