Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, October 21, 2025

About this meeting

Government Body
Planning Commission
Meeting Type
Planning Commission
Location
Vista, CA
Meeting Date
October 21, 2025

Transcript

61 sections (from 121 segments)

1:56 – 2:12Speaker 1

Good evening and welcome to the October 21st, 2025 meeting of the city of Vista Planning Commission. I call this meeting to order. Would you please rise and join us in the pledge of allegiance led by Commissioner Darcy?

2:13 – 2:57Speaker 1

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Mr. Torres, may I have the roll call, please? Okay. Chair De Jesus, here. Vice Chair Martin, here. Commissioner Grim

2:56 – 3:38Speaker 1

here. Commissioner Jolive here. Commissioner Thompson here. Commissioner Hastings absent. Uh, Student Commissioner Nuin and Student Commissioner Parish absent. Thank you. Thank you. Commissioners, you've been provided with the minutes from our meeting of June 17th. If there are no changes, can we hear a motion to approve? Commissioner Grim, I'll move approval.

3:34 – 4:18Speaker 1

Thank you. Commissioner Martin. I'll second. Thank you. It's been moved and seconded to approve the minutes from our June 17th meeting. Please cast your vote and lock it in. And that motion passes unanimously. Paty, are there any changes to the agenda tonight?

4:16Speaker 1

Good evening. Uh, no changes tonight. Thank you.

4:19 – 5:37Speaker 1

Thank you. Next item on the agenda is oral communications. This is the time the commission sets aside for members of the public to address the commission on items that are not on our agenda. If there are no speaker slips, there are none. I do not have any speaker slips. Um but if you want to address the commission tonight for uh a reason that's not on the agenda, please fill out the speaker slips. They're outside um on the table and you can hand them to Mr. Torres. Are there any exparte disclosures communications from the commissioners? I'm going to ask this before the public hearing starts. So in that case, I don't have any. U we'll move to onto our first public hearing item which is item PH1-P24- Oops. I'm sorry. I'm looking at the uh Yeah, that's that's the Sorry, that was the last commission. I'm not looking at the proper agenda. My pro my fault. It's item P23-000070 Vista Old Taylor. and the staff have a presentation for us?

5:36Speaker 1

Yes. Thank you.

5:38 – 7:35Speaker 1

Thank you, chair, members of the planning commission. Uh the project before you tonight is a public hearing for the Vista Old Taylor project. That site is located at 938 Taylor Street and 1022 Old Taylor Street. The request is for a site development plan and a tenative subdivision map. The application number is P23-0070. The subject site contains four parcels totaling 6.92 acres net. Uh the property is located north of Old Taylor Street and Taylor Street west of East Fisto Way. The site currently is maintains two single family residences uh agricultural operations of vacant land as well as uh a man-made pond. The general plan land use designation for the site is medium low density residential which allows for a maximum density of five dorian per acre. The zoning of the site is E1 estate residential with a minimum lot size of 1/2 acre per lot. The project before you tonight again is a Vista Old Taylor. Um it includes a request for a site development plan in a vested vesting tenative subdivision map. Uh the project proposes development of 28 single family homes on 6.92 acres which equates to 4.05 05 dwelling unitage per acre. The project also includes open space as well as other site improvements including drainage improvements, wet and dry utilities and other infrastructure. Recreation amenities uh within the development include passive open space, uh man-made pond, a walking trail as well as natural vegetation. Um, this project will utilize Senate

7:32 – 9:32Speaker 1

Bill SB330 in order to facilitate the development of the site. A little background on SB330. Uh, the approved Senate bill requires that cities shall not require a reasonzoning if a project is consistent with the objective general plan standards. Uh, the city must wave standards if they prevent development from uh, achieving the allowable maximum density within the general plan. The project uh is exempt from any future changes in the development code uh as of their submittal date. And the city is prohibited from denying a project that complies with all the objective uh standards or conditions such project in a manner to reduce their density unless there's an adverse impact uh upon the public health and safety or violates a specific state or federal law. And there's no feasible method to satisfy mitigating or avoiding the adverse impact or other uh other than disapproving the project and imposition of a condition that reduces its density. As part of the as part of the developments uh SB 330 request, they are requesting a number of waiverss from our development standards. Those include front yard setbacks, sideyard setback, rear yard setback, uh building side area requirements, uh minimum private street width, a lot area, lot depth, and lot width. Uh the submitted site plan uh uh illustrates a tenative subdivision uh to create 28 single family residential lots with access uh provided by a 24 foot wide private street. The site plan also illustrates separate lots for a detention basin, natural open

9:30 – 11:27Speaker 1

space, as well as a man-made pond and green space. Uh within the site, uh there's a total of four parking spaces provided for each home, which totals to 112 parking spaces provided. In addition to those improvements, the site also will include a pedestrian walking trail system. The proposed project includes two floor plan types. Uh there'll be 12 three-bedroom homes. plan one, which has a total square footage of 1,778, as well as 16 four bedroomedroom homes, uh, with a total square footage of 1,919 square ft. And again, each home will maintain a two-car garage. Uh, in regards to architecture, there'll be three variations of architecture, um, including farmhouse, cottage, as well as a a prairie ranch, uh, product. The exteriors of the home will include asphalt shingle roofing, uh faux shutters on selected windows, a variety of color schemes, and enhanced siding in selected locations. Uh once constructed, the homes will have a maximum height of 28 ft. Uh the submitted plan also uh illustrates two separate open space areas. Uh the open space area lot C would be 1.2 2 acres and it would include a natural vegetation area, a passive green space, a pedestrian trail as well as a storm water basin. The second uh open space area to the rear of the site is 1.58 acres and maintains a man-made pond, vegetation, and a pedestrian trail. In regards to considerations, this project does comply with the city of Vista general plan 2030. It provides

11:24 – 13:09Speaker 1

quality designed housing, a variety of housing type and an increase in overall housing supply for the city. In conformance with the uh zoning ordinance, uh this project is has been designed to comply with the R1 zone standards in regards to height and parking. And this is consistent with SP330 requirements and the applicant has provided evidence that the waiverss can be justified. A mitigated negative declaration has been prepared for this project and was circulated from July 9th to August 28th. Uh the mitigation measures within the document identify measures related to cultural resources, tribal cultural resources and geology and soils. Uh the city did receive seven comment letters and they're included in your packet tonight. and the conclusion of the document indicates there's no uh sub uh substantive issues raised in the document itself. With that, staff is recommending the planning commission adopt two resolutions. One, approving the mitigated negative declaration in the mitigated monitoring and reporting program for the 28 single family home subdivision on 6.92 acres, as well as a resolution approving a site development plan and a vesting tenative subdivision map for the 28 single family home subdivision on 6.92 acres located at 938 Taylor Street and 1022 Old Taylor Street. That concludes staff's presentation and the developer applicant of the project also has a presentation that he wants to provide to the planning commission as well.

13:05 – 15:02Speaker 1

Thank you so much, Mr. Wrestler. Um, for the purposes of uh due diligence, I need to make an announcement that I didn't make prior to the public hearing and I don't want to take away from that great presentation, but just if I may, um, on our uh the protocol to review um is staff makes the presentation as Mr. Wrestler just did, followed by the applicant's presentation. Then the commissioners will have a chance to ask questions of staff and the applicant and then I will open the public hearing for comments from the public. Each speaker will have three minutes to address the commission. Please make sure to fill out a speaker slip if you'd like to do so. And then I will close the public hearing and we will have a commission discussion and a motion will be made concerning the project. Thank you for allowing me to do that and we appreciate the presentation. Uh if the um if the applicant would like to make their presentation good evening, Madame Chair, members of the commission, my name is Brent Little and I'm here tonight on behalf of the True Life Companies. Uh before I start my presentation, I first want to thank Michael and Paty and uh um some of the folks in public works and the city attorney's office and a number of uh city staff that have worked on this project for over three years. Uh we sincerely appreciate their collaboration and the time and effort that they've all spent on it. And uh in the essence of time where I have a slide that is a duplication uh I'll skip over that. So I'll call your attention to the image on the right hand side of this slide. Uh

14:59 – 16:58Speaker 1

it shows where our properties located with the red star above us is the rural residential that's in the county. uh diagonally and kind of kitty corner at the bottom is um uh medium density residential and then directly below us and across the street is highdensity residential. To our east is medium highdensity residential and then along uh uh East Vista there's a variety of uses. So what we did when we started our planning for the property is we looked at this um variety of of land uses around and we said how do we come up with a a transition of density from the higher density below us to the rural residential in the county and uh uh now I'll point out the middle image the general plan and as Michael pointed out the general plan designation for the property is um medium low density which is five units to the acre, which is the ideal transition density. That gets us a single family detached house uh that is u that mirrors the rur rural residential uh but it's a little bit more dense than the rural residential but less dense than all the attached product below. On the left hand side is the zoning and again as he pointed out that's a state residential which is two units to the acre. So there's this inconsistency between the general plan and the zoning. And so in collaborating with staff, that's how we ended up at the R1. Uh it wasn't like we went out and said, "Let's come up with this long list of waiverss." There just wasn't a general plan designation that that dovetailed in with the MLDD and the site plan and the transition density that we're trying to

16:55 – 18:54Speaker 1

accomplish. So, uh that's how this was engineered. Uh aside from, uh the actual uses out on on the ground and and the densities, uh this is good planning. The property is surrounded by residential development. It's near the East Vista commercial corridor. There's schools, parks, uh uh public buildings, offices nearby. Uh this is good planning. It's a good infill development. When we start out planning a project, the first thing we do is we look at the community's general plan uh for guidance and policy direction. And so when we did that, there's a number of the policy statements that really uh jumped out at us, not just uh under the land use such as um uh redeveloping underutilized properties uh but also in the housing element. uh uh removal of constraints for new housing. Uh but the one here that really I think speaks to us is the community involvement. So one of the things we did uh along our multi-year process as we went out and held a public meeting and met with residents and and got their feedback on the project. So, uh, this is an SB330 project, and I think, uh, everybody in California knows that we're in a housing crisis, but I'm not here to lecture about SB 330, your housing law. Uh, we're in the community. Uh, we follow the planning commission. We heard your last uh, hearing that you had. We know that you know what SB 330 is and all the new housing laws. Uh but we did include this for members of the public that may be listening at home or here tonight uh that aren't as familiar

18:51 – 20:48Speaker 1

with it. And really the takeaway for us is SP 330's goal is to encourage housing and find policy statements that have already been enacted to help further housing construction. But what we are going to tell you is the project benefits. Um, we looked at this project and said, "What can we do that's a little bit more? What other benefits can we do uh that are above and beyond what might be um disallowed by SB330?" And so we have a number of things here. Uh probably the one that sticks out most obvious is uh providing sewer connections uh to other residents that are uh uh not on uh the city's uh sewer system and on septic. And I think this provides not only them a benefit, but it's also a good uh policy directed by the county to help improve water quality. Oh, one other thing on the the benefits um and you see it here is uh we're preserving the pond and uh the uh drainage that goes from the pond and it's something that at our community hearing we did hear uh from the neighbors and and candidly we we got conflicting direction from them. uh some didn't want to see the pond or the drainage at all and others wanted us to enhance it. And I think as you'll see from some of the other images, we we felt as though that enhancing it was uh the better look and feel and better for the community. And I hope you'll uh see that as well in in the other slides. But in the site design, uh just one quick thing to point out is because of the unique uh topography and and uh

20:46 – 22:45Speaker 1

geometrics of the site, uh you end up with a a property that is uh not very dense. Uh you have single- loaded streets. So the houses at the top there uh will only have houses on one side of the streets and the elevation climbs up towards the right hand side of the property. So uh there will be view opportunities and it gives a a more open feel to the community. Uh we wanted to just show you our plant pallet and uh honestly it comes right from the city's design guidelines. Um, but we thought it was important to share that it's a Southern California native uh low water consumption, drought tolerant plant pallet. But we also picked uh plants uh that had uh colors and textures, different textures and different heights. And here's one of the images that uh uh shows the pond in the foreground and uh the homes that will have some good views as they climb up the hill there. Uh and you'll see that there's a sidewalk on one side of the street on the the right hand side going up the hill. Uh what you can't see from this is at the foot of um the retaining wall down by the pond, there's a DG trail that loops from the back of the community down to the pond. So neighbors will have the opportunity to access that. And uh this uh street view of the project merely is to show that there's a variety of um architectural styles uh and elevations and colors that we're using as part of the uh uh the design. And as Michael said, there's also another uh design that we have that is

22:43 – 24:17Speaker 1

an enhancement to the side uh elevations. And I'm sure you guys are familiar with that because that's part of your objective design standards. And here's another image of it. And what I really wanted to point out with this is that uh we do have a number of different uh uh exterior finishes. Uh we have siding uh up at the top to kind of break that uh plane up. And then we have different projections even on the ones that are not the side um uh enhanced units. And that's forward and back so that it it breaks up the architecture along the front. And this image here is looking uh from Taylor uh up towards the project. And again, those houses on the left hand side, there's only, you know, one on they're the only ones on that side of the street, and they're looking out uh towards the open space as they go up the hill. And uh finally, I just wanted to uh point out that this is a traditional uh neighborhood design. It's not a cluster. Um we're not using state density bonus uh for this. Um this uh intent of this is to provide entrylevel single family detached homes for uh folks in the community. And with that, I'm happy to answer any questions that you may have.

24:14 – 24:27Speaker 1

Thank you, Commissioners. Commissioner Martin.

24:26 – 26:08Speaker 1

Thank you, Mr. Little. Appreciate the uh presentation. Uh, I did have a question on the um trails and sidewalks in the project and I'm curious why for the street adjacent sidewalks you're showing DG on the plans where in your presentation just now we saw concrete sidewalks where it's street adjacent. So what is the uh proposal? So on the plans uh we're asking for uh DG or uh or concrete. Um we originally went uh with DG and thinking that that was kind of a softer feel and then after further consideration we thought you know it's really a maintenance issue as well. Uh it looks great, but again we're you know it's all has a cost implication and we want to have uh um stuff that the HOA is able to maintain in a cost-effective manner and keeping in mind that you know these homes really are that first time first time move up for folks that are coming out of town homes or or even apartments. uh and possibly there also moved downs too that want to remain here in the community and want a single family home. So the point is we're we're trying to be cognizant of maintenance issues for the HOA. So uh we put DG in there and concrete. Um I think our preference is probably concrete if we could only get one. So, where I'm heading is asking you if you would not be opposed to a condition from the commission to require concrete for the street adjacent sidewalks, not the other trails.

26:06Speaker 1

Yeah, that's fine. Thank you. Yep. Thank you, Commissioner Jolof.

26:19 – 26:54Speaker 1

There we go. Okay. Um, thank you for your presentation. Um, I really appreciate that you got community feedback. I think that's so important. Um, in reference to the crosswalks, how did you decide where to put those? Because I noticed they're not exactly at the intersection points. Um, let me see if I can get back there. Um, this doesn't really Well, it does kind of see, but they're in.

26:50 – 27:34Speaker 1

Yeah. Um, so, uh, we put it there, uh, because the crosswalk going up the hill, um, is on the right hand side of the street and so we wanted it at that intersection for sight distance and, uh, visibility for cars, um, versus, uh, you know, putting it offset, uh, where somebody may already make the turning movement and not not see somebody. Um so that's uh that was really our our uh driving factor there is just to provide um uh the best connectivity. Okay. And maybe I can't tell the hill from this diagram, right? Um and then there's the question of there's not sidewalk on both sides.

27:33 – 28:07Speaker 1

Correct. Yeah. Um I imagine that if I'm in that outer ring of houses, I don't know if I would cross the street. I might just walk in the street or, you know, humans will walk the way they're going to walk, right? Yeah. Uh there's the meme of of the college campus where everyone walks across the grass instead of going on the right angle. Um it's just something to think about. Yeah. Uh I think my big question is about the pond.

28:03 – 28:33Speaker 1

So I know that you looked at wildlife in the area. Are there any existing fish in that pond? I don't believe so. No fish. Our environmental team is saying no fish. And uh and also um there were no special species. Um we did a nesting bird survey. Uh no nesting birds. Uh anything like that.

28:30 – 29:14Speaker 1

I I saw that. That's great. Um the reason I ask about fish is there was a letter referring to mosquitoes and mosquitoes are an issue. They're a health issue, right? Um we've had actually cases of malaria and deni fever in San Diego. Um as well as other things. Yeah. So, uh there are fish that will eat mosquito larvae that could be put in that pond. Um, and I would love if if something like that could happen, um, there might need to be some guidance to the homeowners association since they will build their CCRs on how to maintain the open spaces.

29:14 – 29:57Speaker 1

Yeah. Um, yeah, that's my concern. Yeah, I absolutely. Um, you know, one of the things that we're looking looking at in building these is last thing we want is a bunch of, you know, trying to sell them to people and mosquitoes flying all over the place. So, it's a practical uh question and I I think um vector control just comes on the property anyway and dumps mosquito fish in there. But um we're certainly amanable to putting something in the CCNRs and and having that uh be a directive for uh the community management team to make sure that that happens.

29:55 – 30:12Speaker 1

Yeah, I'd love to see that. And uh there's something about mosquito fish where if there's native fish, you're not supposed to use them, but if there's no existing fish, then I think it's okay. All right. Thank you. Yeah,

30:08 – 31:07Speaker 1

Commissioner Thompson. One of the things that I thought about when I was looking at the project was about fire safety of the building materials. I recently learned of some pretty incredible, you know, new building materials that can be used that are super fire resistant. And I just wanted to encourage you to try and like utilize as much of that new technology as possible to make these houses as safe as possible because it seems like the weather events are getting more intense, right? So like I was looking into putting real shutters on my house cuz we almost got hit by a hurricane last year. So you know these have the fake shutters. So that wouldn't really like protect these homes from like a serious storm like that. So just wanted to mention that. and also as many shade trees as possible for the community.

31:03 – 31:40Speaker 1

Yeah. Yeah. In uh uh planning and development anymore, um uh fire safety is uh if it's not the most important planning thing we're all having to address. It's number two. Um, so yeah, and as we go through our uh construction documents and final engineering, uh, we'll certainly keep an eye out for that kind of stuff. Um, as we go through these anyway, um, we try and incorporate that as just a a good business practice.

31:42 – 32:00Speaker 1

Thank you. I'll now uh open our public hearing. So, thank you so much. None of the other commissioners have any questions. Do we uh have any speakers?

32:00 – 32:42Speaker 1

Nope. Okay. Well, let's see. You have if you if you want to speak, please give your speaker slips to Mr. Torres. Mary Gilman. And just to let you know, we'll you have three minutes to speak in that. We'll let you know when you're running out of time.

32:39 – 34:39Speaker 1

Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Um, good evening. Um, I am a resident and property owner just north of the project site and um, what was referred to as the half acre uh, semi-ural uh, properties and um, so I have a couple questions or concerns. Um, one was as you raised about uh the pond um oh and I'm sorry I'm also representing guard Guomi Alliance for Responsible Development and we come before here and before the council on many projects so our concern from that standpoint is always the traffic congestion that will get dumped on to East Fistway. East Fistaway, you know, the whole community is growing, but East Fistaway in that area between Taylor and going up to Gopher Canyon is, you know, a real issue and there's nowhere to grow. There's already existing uh mostly businesses along that corridor. So in that triangle there between Old Taylor and Taylor, a lot of traffic tries to avoid that congestion and uses those roads. So there'll be extra, you know, burden on those streets and on Taylor Road. So but I am glad to see that they're going to have sufficient parking and we'll maintain open spaces in addition to the twocar garages. So So that's good. we won't have to worry about all the parking lot or that can't exist on Taylor. So, that's the one thing as far as the pond. Um, yeah, I've heard and there are people in our neighborhood who are concerned about the mosquitoes and that that really hasn't been maintained. So, I'm glad to hear that they are going to

34:37 – 35:35Speaker 1

keep that and that yeah, definitely needs to be maintained and keep mosquitoes at bay. And I'm very surprised or to hear that there are no nesting birds. There are nesting birds all over and in our neighborhood. So that there aren't I find that hard to believe. So I am concerned about the the wildlife in there. Right now it's full of mature trees. There's lot I'm sure lots of wildlife and birds that live there. And from this I can't tell. Is this all just like landscaping? But I want to know what's going to happen with all those trees. How many of them are going to be maintained for shade and for um you know just for the the oxygen and the beauty that they give to that to our neighborhood and for our uh feeling of the road.

35:33 – 35:50Speaker 1

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Pardon me for the pronunciation. Josie Hill. Joe. Joe. Sorry, it's Joey. It look like a C.

35:53Speaker 1

Thank you, Madam Chair. Commissioner.

35:55 – 37:53Speaker 1

My name is Joey Hill. I represent Norway Hall Foundation. We're a 501c3. We put on the Vista Viking Festival for the last 20 23 24 years. Uh, and for about 20 of them, we put it on at 2006 East Fist away that's adjacent to where this property is. And um, some of that property that we use, we had a use agreement with the previous land owner uh, to utilize some of the property. We spent tens of thousand dollars on some improvements with fencing, uh, with, uh, paving uh, the area over there, uh, some some gate. We put up some gates and we actually once we heard this project had started, we decided to move our festival offsite to the Antique Gas and Steam Museum because we weren't sure how this project was going to impact our use agreement that we had with the previous owner. So, this plan's a little bit different, I think, than the one that I saw. So, I'm really just curious of how the housing development is going to impact uh the the some of the property that we had been utilizing because of the previous owner. So that's that's my big thing about that because if that is taken from us, we would not be able to uh to have our festival back on our property where it was for 20 years, we would lose our sta uh our outside stage. Sorry, we would probably lose our our forge uh that we built out there for blacksmithing. So the uh Norway Hall, we've been there since the 1950s. So that building, it's a cultural center for Scandinavian uh history. uh and and you know all those things that we've done to improve the property, the fundraising that we do all goes back into the community. About 75% of what we fund raise goes back into Vista. 20 to 25 goes into the local schools of Vista High Park Academy. So we're just kind of concerned if you know how this final plan is going to impact our property, our easement and stuff that we have over there. So it's a big concern

37:51 – 38:31Speaker 1

for us. So thank you. Any other speakers? So, that was my last speaker slip. The public hearing is closed and I'm opening it up for commissioner discussion. Commissioner Martin. Uh, I'm kind of wondering if Mr. Little would like to address the previous speaker's comments. Thank you.

38:28 – 39:05Speaker 1

Thank you so much for reading my mind. Um, so, uh, yeah, just speaking, uh, to what, uh, Miss Gilman said, um, and I need to clarify, I said there's no nesting birds. So, the way the, um, the bird surveys work is, um, you go out, uh, during the nesting season and you do a survey. Uh, and when we did that, there were there were no nesting birds there. That doesn't mean that there's want to clear them.

39:02 – 40:46Speaker 1

Got it. Okay. That doesn't mean that there's never nesting birds out there. It means during the nesting season. But more importantly, um what we're required to do is we're required to um do preconstruction surveys for nesting birds. And if there is a nesting bird out there, then we need to wait until uh there the nesting season's over. Um and then uh in terms of uh tree removal in um um the watershed, we're not moving any trees, removing any trees in that area. So that entire uh uh wetland watershed area, uh no trees are being removed. Um and the pond. Yeah. Again, we're we're absolutely willing to um work with uh staff and vector control. Um as much as for the community and our selfish reasons, we don't want mosquitoes for our residents. Um and uh for Mr. Hill, uh I uh we're willing to work with him. I I wasn't aware. I don't believe there there might have been an agreement from the prior owner, but I don't believe there's any easement on the property or there's nothing that's recorded on title, but um we're certainly aware of their facility and their activity and uh uh we'll uh work with him and and uh do what we can do. Um, but I don't think there's any conflict um with him, but we'll we'll talk with him.

40:45Speaker 1

Thank you. Thank you. Any other comments,

40:57 – 41:44Speaker 1

Commissioner Grim? I had a number of of comments. Um the first one is uh I noticed that the houses will be using uh asphalt shingle and um what I'm hoping is that you will be using the thicker ones and there's a name for it. I can't remember what it is. We used to refer to it as is as something that's relative to the elk prestique which are your thicker asphalt uh shingles that actually cast a shadow. So that when you're looking at it, it doesn't just look like sandpaper. It looks like something that has some some depth to it. Would you?

41:41 – 42:14Speaker 1

Yeah. So the elevations identify a product that's landmark a TL shingle which I did a little bit of research on and it's actually a triple laminated construction material and it's designed for durability plus dimension. So what they say in their ad is it emulates woodshake roofing. So, it it has been designed to provide a thick butt or a dimension on the roof. So, the material that they're proposing should accommodate what your your request is.

42:12 – 42:54Speaker 1

That was the word thick thick butt shingles. Yeah, I wasn't sure if I could say that here. Um, so yeah, I probably uh if it's okay with the applicant, I would probably propose that that be uh a condition just in case the project is sold at some point. Unless Michael, you think it's locked in enough as part of being on the approved plan. It's a condition could be added that requires any, you know, roofing material to be a dimensional uh material. Yeah. And I'm sure looking at this project, I'm sure he wants to do a good job with the uh with the roofing on that.

42:50 – 44:50Speaker 1

Um second comment was on um B Street. Um if you follow B Street up on the plan, it just kind of stops. So there's no, my understanding there's no future connection for B Street. It just stops there and that's where it'll stop. I did notice there's no hammerhead for somebody that goes up the street to turn around. There is a uh a bulb a little farther back that I assume is for um you know trash trucks, fire trucks, anything else that might be coming in there. I guess the only issue would be you know we we live in a very similar development. People we live at the end. A lot of people come up because they think the road goes through and then they they're kind of stuck up there. So, they're end ending up backing down our street and into the uh culde-sac that turns off. So, it's not a huge deal, but it's just something that I just kind of wondered why they Well, I think I know why they didn't put a hammerhead there, but anyway, just something that that you know, maybe you know, you can address. Um the third thing was uh parking. Uh per our standards, there's four four spaces per house. There's two in the garage and there's two on the driveway. And um I noticed that the the garage is about 20 by 20 with a small cutout toward the rear that would be for um probably washing machine, dryer, water heater, thing like that. The problem is there's there's limited storage. And a lot of times what happens is that people then um will not put their cars in their garage. will use their garage for storage and then the driveway becomes the place where the the cars are parked. Then you only have really two parking spaces uh per site. And again, not that big a deal. But the the other thing that kind of compounds this is that you have um reduced width on your street. So you've got no on street parking. And again, I'm familiar with it because it's

44:47 – 46:21Speaker 1

similar to the project I um I live in where uh we have service trucks, guests, kids have birthday parties, there's a lineup and they're all in the fire lane. And um we just kind of I mean there's nothing, you know, we can really do about it. I assume I don't know even know if the fire department could sight somebody in that in that situation. But I guess my point being is that you're going to have um a lot of violations of the of the fire lane in in that kind of a development. Um one solution would be to obviously to provide guest parking on on site. I'm sure that was talked about when you originally did the plan and uh um probably because of u the you know the tightness of making the project work. Um you know that uh that probably didn't work. So um essentially um I like the project. Um I I think it does a lot for the for the site and I think it it'll be a good project. I'm not sure there's really I'm not going to vote against the project because I I'm not sure there's really anything much we can we can do about it anyway. It's just maybe something more for staff to think about in the future when we have this kind of a situation. I know it all meets our code and everything, but it's just something since I live in that situation, it's a little bit a little bit troubling, but you know, I'm not going to I am going to vote for the project unless something obviously comes up. That ends my comments.

46:17 – 48:16Speaker 1

Thank you, Commissioner Grim. Um, Mr. Wrestler, could you bring up the SP 330 slide again? Sorry, I'm don't make you to get up. There you go. I just um want to take the opportunity. I think it's important for the community to know that a lot of the uh development standards um that the city uh works really hard on the general plan. Uh we have the state of California who leads um an effort in the last 10 years almost to um increase housing and make it so that the cities um cannot say no to particular projects uh particular growth projects and this particular project enjoyed some SB 330 SB meaning Senate bill coming from the state of California and it um these these Senate bills regarding housing can have an impact on local government because we can't um for lack of a better thing, we can't say no. We have to allow certain things that maybe historically weren't allowed. Um and I appreciate the developers um mindfulness in their allowances and the waiverss that they chose. I think the project looks great. I I like the uh loca uh how you've laid it out. I like the landscape. Um I like the design element, the colors that you've chosen. Um uh one thing that um I know that's concern some to the community, especially historically, is that the state allows for property owners to add on to these properties in terms of an ADU. U garages can be converted. um if that is allowed then there's other

48:14 – 49:06Speaker 1

issues that come up that are out of our hands that we can't do anything about because these are by right from the state. So the project I like that you have four um practical parking spaces for each unit. The twocar garage, the two uh in the driveway um the turnaround that you had to legally put in there. But um overall I think the project uh for the density that you put in there, you didn't have any density bonuses. the waiverss that you used were mindful and and and I thought they were it's well laid out. So to that end, I would ask the commissioners if anybody has a motion they'd like to make. Commissioner Martin. Um yeah, I'll I'll move make a motion, but um I have some comments also.

49:06 – 51:02Speaker 1

And um I really like this project. I I think it's it's welldesigned. Um I like the fact that the homes are all less than 2,000 square feet. Very few builders are building single family homes less than 2,000 square feet these days. And so I think these are going to fill a niche in the market that's currently not being addressed. And so I appreciate that. Um on the flip side of that, I am a little disappointed that the two plans are so similar. I wish there was a little bit more variation in the two plans. Um the floor plans for the ground floor are nearly identical. Um at least in dimensions, but that's not going to dissuade me from supporting the project. Um so yeah, it's it's it's well done. Uh to me it looks kind of like a clustered project. you mentioned that it wasn't, but it takes all of the good things about clustering where you're saving um aspects of the environment that uh that really should be preserved um and then putting the development in the in the rest of the usable areas. So, I I appreciate uh the design. Um, so with that, I' I would like to make a motion and as part of that, I'm thinking of uh requesting a couple of conditions if they're agreeable to the to the applicant. Um, so I would make a motion to recommend approval of the project uh as proposed by staff with the addition that um the CCNRs require the garages to be uh available for two parking spaces. Um, and that the sidewalks that are street adjacent within the project uh be constructed of concrete

50:59 – 51:15Speaker 1

and that the uh HOA be required to maintain the pond in a condition that uh fosters mosquito abatement. That would be my motion. Thank you,

51:18 – 51:44Speaker 1

Commissioner Grim. I'd like to motion. I'd like to second that motion. Thank you. We have a first and a second. Go ahead, Commissioner Martin. Did you also want to include a condition that requires the the uh roofing material to be uh thick but dimensional asphalt shingles?

51:42 – 52:32Speaker 1

Um yes, as discussed by Commissioner Grim. Thank you. It's been moved and seconded to approve the project with the conditions that Commissioner Martin spoke of. Please cast your vote and lock it in. Did we get a Oh, there it is. It's not on my screen. There it is. The motion passes with the commissioners present and we can move on to reports. Thank you.

52:30Speaker 1

Thank you. Thank you.

52:38 – 53:19Speaker 1

Any reports? Um Miss Chow. Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh just wanted to mention that uh we are planning to have a meeting on November 4th. Uh so if you can please pencil it in on your calendars, a couple of items for that night. I believe that actually might be our last meeting of 2025. Um believe it or not. So it's going by fast. So, uh, that's pretty much what I have and I think Mr. Vaka, if you had anything to add to that. He's approaching.

53:28 – 54:11Speaker 1

Thank you very much, members of the commission and Miss Chow. First, I'm honored and thrilled to and uh, invite a couple new employees to come forward so we can make a formal introduction. So Kristen Lumis, our uh senior office specialist, if you could join me at the podium. So we want to welcome her. She's now admin position uh overseeing our planning division. Yay. And then also Blair Davis, if you can join us also, senior office specialist with our building and safety division. Nice to meet you. So, they're both highly qualified, uh, great technical admin people and excellent, um, co-workers. So, we're thrilled to have them on board with us.

54:10 – 54:37Speaker 1

Welcome. So, congratulations and welcome aboard. And then I want to just give you a couple quick updates on some projects. So, the Monav Vista project that was the 19 single family homes that you had reviewed and recommended and supported approval of was appealed to the planning commission and it went through two public hearings and the appeal was not granted and the project approvals were upheld by the city council.

54:35 – 55:12Speaker 1

I also want to share that staff worked diligently to expedite construction of the Costco gasoline service station. So, that's going to be opening any day now. So, that's going to have 30 pumps. should be much more efficient than the previous layout of the existing service station. So once the new service station is functional, they'll close the existing service station that'll be repurposed for parking. And um I wanted to also let you know that the city council recently received an update on our short-term rental ordinance that we enacted about a year ago.

55:10 – 56:07Speaker 1

It's been very successful. Uh the finance department did the overview because it was focused mostly on how many short-term rentals we've permitted, which is 103 to date, which is very significant. And they also projected that we're going to have over $300,000 of transit occupancy tax generated by the new short-term rental permits and businesses. So, we're thrilled about that. We had one or two bad actors that have since been handled by the city through code enforcement, but other than that, all of the operations have been successful and compatible in the neighborhoods that they've been presented in. So, it's been a really successful program and it's been a strong collaboration among several departments and we're really proud of the outcome. Um, and so with that, I would just thank Michael Wrestler on taking over a project that he inherited from Rafie Magnaarian, and he did a great job getting it to the finish line. So, thank you very much, Michael.

56:05 – 56:46Speaker 1

And then, Algra has been helping us out significantly while Amanda was on uh family leave and the arrival of her new baby daughter, Quinn, has been a huge success. And so, eventually, probably in the new year, Amanda will be back serving the planning commission. So, thank you to Algra for a job well done as as well. That's it. Have a great evening. Thank you so much. If if I could ask Leanne to step up to the mic. Uh commissioners, this is Leanne. She's our student commissioner from Ranch of Buenav Vista. Just want to see if you'd like to say a few words about yourself and what why you joined and if there's anything you'd like to add for the record.

56:42 – 57:07Speaker 1

Uh yes, I'm a student from RBV. I like getting involved, planning, leading as well. Um, I really like just volunteering, getting involved with the community. This is a step up from getting involved from not just people, but the city council, which is a big deal to me.

57:05 – 57:48Speaker 1

Well, we're happy to have you, and I'm going to work harder to acknowledge you with the to ask for your input if you have any input on any of the items. And if I miss you, don't hesitate to wave at me or whatever, but I'll try to remember that next time. and thank you so much for being here. It's a volunteer position and you took the time to volunteer and and uh I appreciate it and I think I speak on behalf of the the panel here that we do. So, thank you for joining us and we look forward to seeing you next time. Okay, sounds good. Thank you. So, with that, I uh think we stand adjourned. Thank you. Nice job. Yeah, good job.

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