Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

All right. I called the Valo Planning Commission regular meeting uh to start at 7:02 p.m. Uh we will start with the first agenda item uh which is the uh call to order, excuse me, and we'll start with the pledges of allegiance. Commissioner Blinds, if you could please off, please. Sure. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Great. Thank you, Commissioner Blanch, for leading that. Uh, so we're going to go to the next agenda item, which is roll call. Thank you, Chair. Um, I would like to make the planning commission aware that Commissioner Philip Billena has resigned from the planning commission. Uh, so he's no longer planning commissioner. Um, I do want to say thank you for his time and we appreciate his input and um time as a member of the planning commission. So to start with that, um, Commissioner Beasley Sansbury present. Uh, Commissioner Maderos, I'm here. Commissioner Blind present. Uh, Chair Taylor present. Commissioner White present. Vice Chair Douglas absent. We have a quorum.

Great. Thank you. And so we're going to move to the next agenda item which is the consent calendar and approval of the agenda. Uh we will go with uh approval for agenda for the agenda and the minutes. Uh if we can get a motion to approve the agenda and minutes from the February 18, 2016 regular meeting. I'll move to approve.

I'll second. I need two more roads. We have five eyes and the motion carries. All right. Great. Thank you. So we will move to the next agenda item uh which is report of the city council leazison council. Uh good evening, Chair Taylor, um commissioners, uh staff, and uh the general public. I want to thank everyone for being here tonight. Um no major report right now, but I just want to make uh this commission aware that tomorrow we have actually have our um special uh um meeting for our uh city council. And the whole agenda is basically the um work plans for all the commissions and boards. And just to let you know this is one of the few commissions that did not have a a work plan submitted for us to review tomorrow. So just wanted to I know I recommend that on a regular basis but if we can get something like that um rolling and ju just to give you an understanding the primary reason for some of those or many of those was number one to identify their work plan but a lot of them were to um ask for any uh midyear uh budget adjustments. So, in other words, all commissions and boards are allotted $1,000. Um, this commission is is special um for the fact that they your allotment is more than a,000 because of the things that are built

into the things that you guys already do. So, you already have a budget that's larger than the thousand uh dollars allocated for it like like the other commissions and boards may have many of the other ones. But for example, economic development a couple of years ago submitted a work plan asking for th um I think it was over $10,000 for their plan to help with um economic development in downtown in the downtown area. So, it's things like that where if you have something that may look to adjusting your budget that you have allocated for you, that's the purpose of the work plan. But primarily, it's it's to give you guys a focus and a structure of something that you guys have are envisioning over the next year or two years. So, once again, I'm recommending that and that's part of what you guys have been working on is is getting a work plan put together. Um so that way you guys can have some some level of focus and agend um agenda focus and agenda. And um just to let you know uh council member Matias and I we are primarily putting economic development and plan the planning commission at the forefront because if you're you're probably all aware that we're facing a budget deficit right now. And so we um last year um the council um or basically after the past couple years the council has been putting um public safety as the primary focus on that and the in fact we've achieved some of the goals on that. What what we've realized is economic development has kind of fell a little bit behind of where we would like it to be right now. So, this is where uh council member Matias and I have been looking towards um that dual collaboration between the planning commission and economic development to kind of help kickstart a lot of the economic development that we're looking to and and hoping to um rely on to to improve a lot of the economic status that we have here in Valo. though that is um and this this commission is primarily the forefront of that where you set up the zoning you set up a lot of the um specific plans where you can

look at how to how to improve and and which overlaps in some of the economic development. So that's where we have been encouraging some collaboration with the economic development to kind of look at some of these specific areas and the fact that now that um uh the our financial budget situation is is something that we want to focus on now um maybe that may be part of the the primary focus moving forward. So um that would be the end of my report. Any questions at this point? If none, thank you so much. Yeah, I think that's on our agenda tonight. I'm I'm sorry. That's on our agenda. Thank you.

All right. Great. Thank you, council member. I appreciate the update. All right. So, we can move to the next agenda item, which is the community forum. And the community forum is anyone who wish to address the commission on any matter for which another opportunity to speak is not not provided on the agenda and which which is within the jurisdiction of the planning commission to resolve. Uh at at this point we will give open of the community forum and give three minutes for each speaker if we have any available and if we do not have any speakers we can give it some time and then we can move on to the next possibly uh through the chair we do have one member of the public uh with their hand raised on Zoom. Okay. Absolutely.

Uh Kristen Bautista, please unmute yourself. You have the floor.

Good evening chair and commissioners. My name is Kristen Bautista and I live in Hunter Ranch. I'm here because since June 2025, our residential neighborhood has been turned into a commercial traffic corridor due to the Admiral Callahan lane closure. When this closure was announced, the community was given a clear impression that it would be temporary and well-managed. Instead, the timeline has continued to shift with extensions and limited transparency. From a resident's perspective, this feels like a bait and switch. We agreed to one level of disruption and we are now living with something far more severe and prolonged. The detour signage is not working. It does nothing to stop heavy retail traffic from pouring through neighborhood streets. On weekends, we're seeing thousands of cars cutting through. On weekdays, hundreds more than normal. This is not just frustrating, it's dangerous. We are seeing speeding, tailgating, accidents, near misses, pedestrian danger, blocked intersections, and drivers using residential streets that were not designed for this kind of volume. Children live here. Families walk here. This is supposed to be a neighborhood, not an overflow route for retail traffic. The community should not be absorbing the safety risks and quality of life impacts of the prolonged construction delays. We're asking for full transparency about the true project timeline and the reasons for the ongoing extensions, immediate traffic mitigation beyond signage, including enforcement and physical traffic calming measures, and accountability for how this planning failure has been allowed to continue at the expense of residents. Development should not come at the cost of neighborhood safety. We expect action, not just updates. Thank you. Thank you for sharing. Um that is appear to be some serious issues there in terms of traffic in a residential area where

commercial traffic is being directed. Uh I believe this is a matter that planning commission I'm sure public works can probably look into and figure out some ways to mitigate this. Uh but we can give our our team some time to think about it. So thank you for sharing. Uh do we have anyone else I would like to speak in our public forum? No other speakers with their hands raised at this time. Chair.

Great. Thank you. And again, I want to thank the community for sharing their concerns and what they're experiencing as a result to some of our projects in city of Lao. So, we're going to move on to the next agenda item, which is the public hearing to adopt resolution accepting and recommending city council approval of the general plan and housing element annual progress report for the calendar year 2025. um through the chair. Uh right before the staff presentation, I do want to note for the record that com Vice Chair Douglas has joined the planning commission this evening. Okay. Thank you.

Good evening, Chair Taylor, members of the commission. My name is Robert Buick. I am senior planner here at city of Vallejo. here tonight to talk about the 2025 general plan annual progress report or APR. Okay. Uh we'll start tonight by speaking about the uh Propel Vallejo general plan um which projects out through 2040. It defines a vision for future change and guides the location and character of development. Uh it does include a number of goals, policies, and programs aimed at enhancing Vallejo's economy, conserving resources, improving public services and safety, and fostering community well-being.

Okay.

Um the annual progress report is required for every municipality in California. Uh it must be submitted annually uh to both the governor's office of land use and climate innovation or LCI and California Department of Housing and Community Development by April 1st each year. Uh it provides the planning commission, city council and the state with a progress report on the imple implementation of the general plan uh as well as the jurisdictional share of the regional housing needs allocation or reena. Next. Do you happen to know which? Okay, cool. All right. So, we'll go over some of the general plan implementation progress um that we've made this year. Um the housing element um adoption and zoning implementation um was included in the sixth cycle housing element uh which covers the period of 2023 through 2031. Um this uh six cycle housing element was adopted in December of 2024. Uh it included general plan, land use map, zoning map and zoning ordinance amendments mainly to ensure that the city can accommodate its arena uh which is consistent with um programs within the housing element. Um and this advances uh general plan goal uh CP-2 uh providing diverse housing opportunities. All right. So, other activities that were um furthering our general plan goals this year in calendar year 2025, uh February

2025, the city council did approve the purchase of solar street light equipment um and used um those solar street lights to retrofit damaged street lights along Collola Parkway uh between Lemon and Napa streets. Um this funding this project was funded um by an energy efficiency and conservation block grant um and advances a number of general plan goals aimed at um creating a healthier community um providing high-quality infrastructure and services and making Vallejo a place where people want to be. Um next slide. Um, another um major uh furtherance of the goal, the general plan goals, um, in March 2025, the city council authorized um, membership and legislative a advocacy contributions to the Solano Transportation Authority uh, for the next two fiscal years. Um, STA is Solano County's regional transportation agency um, coordinating planning, funding, and advocacy for roadway safety. transit connectivity and mobility. Vallejo's participation in this uh agency ensures access to state federal funding continues um and that countywide transportation coordination also continues. Um this advances general plan goals aimed at providing a multimodal transportation system and also ensuring that Vallejo has high quality infrastructure and services. Next slide. In November of 2025, uh the planning commission approved development of 130 single family residences um located at

2011 Rollingwood Drive. Uh this advances the general plan goals to provide diverse housing opportunities um create complete neighborhoods and provide highquality infrastructure and services for the city. Um, next slide. All right. So, um, in 2025, um, the main, um, focus on the annual progress report is just providing an update on our housing unit production. Um, the regional housing needs allocation for the city of Vallejo for the sixth cycle. So the period 2023 through 2031 was to provide 2900 total units. Um as you can see in the central sections of the table um we've provided uh progress uh on the housing unit production broken down by the previous years within that six cycle element period with the numbers for 2025 highlighted and divided between um affordability for the housing between very low income, low income, moderate income and above moderate income. Uh in 2025, Vallejo issued building permits for 193 housing units uh including seven very low income uh affordable to households um with very low income, 33 affordable to households with low income, and 10 affordable to households with moderate income. and then the remainder the bulk of 143 units affordable to households with above moderate income. um to date or you know as of calendar

year 2025 um that means Vallejo has produced 530 units um towards its RENA requirements um leaving 2370 units remaining um to issue building permits uh through 2031. Um, also included in this report, you know, we cover some of the activities um, within the housing element. There are a number of programs. Um, and progress is made has been made on a number of those uh, through calendar year 2025. Um, one of the programs that had significant activity in 2025 was program F1.1.3 for renter protection and housing stability. Uh, a $1.4 million one Bay Area grant fund was reprogrammed for downtown specific plan update. Uh this funding supports the citywide engagement and feasibility analysis for anti-displacement policies uh within the specific plan update. Uh this work will inform potential ordinances including rent stabilization uh just cause um evictions, anti-harassment, and right to council. Um, this work is anticipated to be complete in 2026. Next slide, please. All right. Um, the next program where policy um where activity was occurred in 2025 was towards our inclusionary housing ordinance. Um the city has contracted with um EPS

uh to prepare the inclusionary housing and inloo fee feasibility analysis. This feasibility study was completed in June of 2025 and presented at joint uh planning commission and city council study sessions um in 2025. This analysis found that residential prototypes uh were not financially feasible um even before affordability requirements or new fees. Um in November 2025 uh staff received the direction to proceed with ordinance drafting um and incorporate flexibility to address those feasibility concerns. This draft ordinance is anticipated in mid 2026. And related to that on the next slide, um the commercial linkage fee um EPS completed their nexus study in June 2025 in conjunction with the inclusionary feasibility study. This was also presented at joint planning commission and city council study sessions in July and November of 2025. uh commercial. Uh again, the direction for staff in November of 2025 was to proceed with drafting the linkage fee ordinance and the draft ordinance is anticipated in mid 2026. And with that, that concludes my 2025 uh APR update. Um I'm available to answer any questions you may have.

Great. Thank you. Uh at this moment should we open up to the public to the public? No. Yes. So thank you for the presentation. I appreciate it. Uh at this moment, should we open up to the public for any comments to the chair? Up to you. Typically, it's uh the part where the planning commission asks any questions um to the staff. After that, then you would open the public clearing, accept any public comment, and then Great. All right. Thank you. All right. So, we're going to open up any any questions. Any planning commission have any comments or questions?

Sure. Through the chair. I've got a a few. Um, first of all, nice work putting this all together. It's uh very thorough. uh start off with some just some uh recognition that the solar street lights is a great program. Um it seems small sometimes when we think about the the net impact we're trying to have with like our regional housing allowance and these thousands of units we need to build, but I just like to commend anyone that worked on that project. It's a really nice thing. you take our infrastructure that's failing right now and figure out a cost-effective means to literally build on top of it and make something functional on top of something that's not functional. And I saw those go in in different areas of the town and I just thought that was um small things that actually start to accumulate to something big. So congratulations on that small thing that accumulates to something big. Um, a couple questions I had with the I guess it was related to some of the studies that EPS did. There was um there's nothing in there that talked about mixed use developments as either a prototype. It's kind of it's not a commercial development and it's not any of the prototypes we analyzed um uh for you know the uh inclusionary housing ordinance. But I I continue to believe it's a sweet spot in what we could do with redeveloping some of our streetscapes, uh, like Tennessee Springs, a lot of these other ones that are now not in the best of times, um, that are on transit corridors. And so they would check that box for new housing if we could put some housing on top of these existing uh, commercial units. So again, I encourage you all to think about how we can do a study that considers that prototype and considers how we would be able to move forward and create some efficiencies in the zoning

code in order to encourage that prototype and if it's potentially um more feasible financially than the other prototypes, if there's a way that we can add inclusionary housing to it or commercial linkage to it or both. Um so again I has any any thought going into the mixed use?

Yeah, absolutely. Um Hector Rojas uh long-range planning manager uh for the city. Um really good to uh be here with you uh tonight. I haven't seen you guys for a while. So uh pleasure to be here. Um yeah, as far as uh mixed use is concerned, um while it wasn't something that we looked at in terms of the EPS uh studies for feasibility and nexus, it's definitely something that we're going to start to take a look at in the downtown and waterfront uh specific plans. We do have um economic experts that are going to be subconsultants uh to that team of consultants uh that is going to develop and prepare the specific plans to look exactly at that uh situation where we have the market conditions right now and into the foreseeable future. Uh what is there a demand for? Uh what are the different types of commercial and housing including mixeduse uh prototypes that should be developed in the downtown and can most easily be developed. So although unfortunately we did not include that in terms of the um inclusionary housing, it is something that we're moving forward in the uh specific plan updates.

Okay. Thank you. And then two two other ones I had and I'll pass my time on. Um two other elements that I think are particularly worthwhile to continue pushing is like D11, the sweat equity aspects of this as well as G2.11. Um both of these are kind of of a of a common theme that you'll hear from me at least. Um is how can we use our existing stock of housing um to make sure it doesn't fall into disrepair to become unlivable or to fall out of affordable housing altogether um because it's no longer deed restricted or whatever the case may be. Um and as the same um kind of vein, allow people to access some forms of uh funding so that they can put some sweat equity in some of these properties and may be someone that is trying to climb the income ladder could potentially put something into these buildings of their own sweat that would allow them to get a foothold. Um, so again I' I'd encourage you again to me it's of a of a piece with the mixed uh use which is like how can we leverage our existing housing stocks. I feel like we continually are always figuring out what green fields we can go to and what developers we can encourage to come to these open areas and then build us new housing of the type that we need. And instead, I think we need to focus as much as we can on these brown fields, these areas that need to be redeveloped, that need that are bladed currently, that are vacant currently, and create housing and commercial opportunities in the same place. Um, so, uh, th those are my, uh, couple points that just words of encouragement to try to like push you, uh, into that direction, um, so that we're not constantly, you know, focused on these, uh, developer opportunities that are

large scale that have to go through an entire process. And there's a whole bunch of now squa exemptions uh, for infield construction that will streamline a lot of those developments that I think we can capitalize on. So, that's it for me. Um, yes. And speaking of brownfield construction, um, has mixeduse planning been considered at all for Soma Boulevard because that was a big challenge in the last city council meeting from, I believe, um, uh, council uh Matias in that he wanted or challenged the planning commission to look at the specific plan or whatever it's called for Sonoma Boulevard to challenge some of the zoning and um um land use designations along there and we know that that's a hugely challenged area. uh speaking of blight and um buildings that have not been maintained for decades some of them. So I would really challenge um staff to to think about that for Sonoma Boulevard specifically

through the through the chair. So, the Sonoma Boulevard specific plan when it was originally adopted in 2017, um it was designed and drafted up and approved by city council, um which started from Sonoma Boulevard, which was south of Collo Parkway, which is like one parcel south of Cortto Parkway, all the way up to on Long Sonoma Boulevard, um to Redwood, which also includes one parcel north of Redwood. So that's what implements the Cinnamon Boulevard specific plan. When the plane commission made a recommendation to city council and city council adopted the new zoning code, uh the what happened was we created the central commercial uh central commercial corridor zoning district which implements and implements the Sonoma Boulevard specific plan which is all the way from Collola Parkway to the border of American Canyon. So the CC zoning district does allow different variety of different uses or mixed use that kind of like commissioner blind was speaking of of having a commercial use on the ground floor with residential above or vice versa full-on residential and a variety of different type of uh commercial uses. Um depending on the type of use they may be permitted within that central that CC zoning district or could require a discretionary permit that's either acted on by the director or would come before the planning commission. So um currently as it sits it does envision a a different type of uses that would be allowed along the cinema boulevard specific plan.

Thank you for that. Um I also wanted to thank you for your report and the update. Um, and I know that neighborhood mixed use is something that we've discussed or at least I have discussed with um, CSR and Hector and I know that that is in the m while it's not going to be in the making immediately. I know that that is the plan. That's the trajectory. One of the I think what we um are the only issue we're missing is that we still do have a lack of capital. Um and when I looked at the um the grant amount, it was, you know, pretty small. Um at 1.4 million, that's not a lot of money. Um you know, even if it's a feasibility study, it's it's not much. And so I think one of the things that while we have these plans and desires, a lot of times we don't we're forgetting that there is a lack of access and a lack of capital that we have here. And I want to challenge us to I know we have a grant writer and I know that folks are working diligently, but I want to challenge us to, you know, really push for the the neighborhood mixeduse. Um, you know, I've been screaming from the rooftops um about infield. They've been doing it in Richmond for 20 million years. Um, and Hector knows that cuz he came from Richmond. Um, and we talked about that. And so, you know, it's this is not anything new to you. I know. and I'm just we're fortunate to have you with the rest of the team so that you know we can get some policy set forth. Um and then with the inclusionary policy I'm

looking forward to seeing that draft. Um I know we said mid 2026. Do we know June July? Maybe my birthday present or something maybe July. Is that what we're thinking?

Yeah. So I could go ahead and address that. Um actually something that uh chair Taylor brought up earlier. Um so we've been working diligently on uh following up from our uh study sessions in November where we had uh the feedback from both the planning commission and city council to draft the ordinances. Um we have surveyed uh the jurisdictions that are in Solano County as well as some of the outside jurisdictions uh like Elsto, Hayward. We also included Pasadena in there and we basically took a look at all of the components of their inclusionary um housing ordinance and we developed um in consultation with our city attorney's office and our assistant uh city manager um a Valo specific outline of what the ordinance um will look like uh for the city of Valo. We just finished that um I think a couple of weeks ago. The piece that we're uh waiting on currently is a uh written nexus study from EPS um that will basically recommend the amounts for the inloo fees, what to set those at as well as the commercial linkage fee. Uh once we have that, then uh city attorney's uh job is going to be drafting the ordinance based on the policy outline that we developed with them. So um maybe uh Laura could speak to uh in terms of the timing once we get the Nexus study. uh will be receiving that um at the end of next week. Uh and then we'll be turning it over to the city attorney's office to draft the ordinance. Um I think maybe a couple of months and then we actually will also be um putting that draft out for public review and comment. Uh 30-day public review and comment after which we'll bring it back to the planning commission and city council for consideration. So, uh, we did flexibly say mid 2026 we think is, uh, fe feasible, but the exact details are probably going to be up to our city attorney's office, their bandwidth to be able to write the ordinance, um, as soon as possible.

Okay. And then, thank you so much. Um, would, and I don't know if this is in our purview or not, but I'm going to ask, um, would it help if the Solano uh or if the Tennessee corridor um because there's a lot of legacy businesses on that on that boulevard? So would would it help funding wise if we um turned Soma in or excuse me Tennessee Soma area into a um historical business district? Um is that what would help us sort of with meeting some a lot more of the arena or getting a lot more funding? Um not at all. Um, my gut is telling me it probably wouldn't help that much. I'm not aware of any uh funding sources tied to that and um I fear that could add additional hurdle hurdles for development review process but um yeah, I'm not aware of any funding for that.

Thank you. Any other commissioners have any questions or any comments? Um I might have additional after hearing if there's any public input. All right, sounds good. We can turn it back. All right, so I guess we can open up to the public forum uh for any comments on uh public hearing for adopting a resolution for accepting this proposal to pre I mean to present to uh city council. So you can open up the public forum, please. Thank you, chair. Uh we do have one member of the public with their hand raised. Um, Crystal Goss, please unmute yourself. You have the floor.

Hello. Thank you. Yes. Can you hear me? I had peace on. Yes.

Good evening, commissioners. My name is Gristal and I really want to start first by recognizing this commission's leadership. Sure. If you remember back in December 2024 when Valo's housing element, which by the way at that point was nearly 2 years overdue, this body really played an instrumental role in ensuring uh program F 1.13, which is what I'm here to talk about tonight. The renter protection housing stability made sure that was included. And that late night meeting was really important. it really mattered cuz it showed our city's commitment to, you know, transparency, accountability, and really to the residents most impacted by our housing crisis. So, I really want to honor that energy and that work and call us back into that same spirit tonight. You know, I noticed at with the arena table that we reviewed, it really makes the situation very plain. Valo produced I think it said seven only seven very low-inccome units in 2025 and I think over the three years just 20 27 in the entire cycle so far that's like under four 3% of what's required and still hundreds of units still unmet you know and we see that low income production is also still quite far behind um and this pattern isn't just it doesn't just address displacement we know that the rent burden and overcrowding doesn't meet it's not meeting the needs of our valo residents who are most impacted and these numbers aren't a reflection of you know individual staff effort in fact planning staff have been engaging well with most folks I know community partners in great faith and doing their best within real internal constraints you know and we understand that this the issue is very structural the city's not been able to implement the housing element programs at the pace required by state law. So on the slide on program F.113, renter protection and housing stability, it

illustrates this gap because the housing element required a feasibility study by June 2025 last year and for community outreach efforts as well and uh also another deadline of September 2025. And none of these deliverables were completed. And so this is this is concerning. And we know that state law requires the APR to identify the local governmental constraints and our city's own delays, missed deadlines, and lack of timeline are actual themselves governmental constraints. So without naming them, the city can't correct them and then HCD can't evaluate the compliance. Right? So I just want to return to where I began. This body's already shown that it can play a critical role in ensuring Balo meets its legal obligations and protections to the residents. The AP are before you tonight really has to reflect that truth that Valo is behind on its housing element commitments, especially rental protections, and that we're not on track to meet arena obligations uh yet. And we just need that to be documented in the report. We remain committed to working collaborative collaboratively with uh city staff, planning staff, and anyone in our community uh who wants to engage in these really important conversations. Thank you. uh through the chair. No other speakers at this time.

Okay, great. Thank you. Oh, you didn't sign up. Oh, I didn't read it. I'm sorry. You can come on up, please.

Technology kind of evades me sometimes, but I thought I pushed the right button. Thank you, Le Mitzenheimer, and I'm here with Valo Housing Justice Coalition, and I'm just wanting to amplify the need to keep the housing uh element progress as a um u priority because as we see, our numbers have not changed for Arena. Um the city has not met its arena's numbers for decades, and we so there is a real urgency to make sure that we stabilize our community that we have here. Um, we know that the city has challenges, uh, but the community is facing challenges as well. Uh, every day we're reading where companies are leaving and and people are being displaced because they no longer have a job. Um, we're looking at budget cuts even further from the federal government. So people are always under the trauma of not knowing where they're going to live, how they're going to keep a roof over their head, how they're going to feed their children, how the kids are going to get to school, whether they have a job. And so one of the things that we can do is to make sure that we um are discouraging displacement uh when there is no need and that we keep the people here that are actually providing economic development for this city because they are the ones that are um participating in the small businesses, paying their taxes and making sure that uh people are um comfortable here in the city. So, we want to make sure that we protect our community as well. So, I'm hoping that we continue to move forward with the protections and that um the planning commission is also inquiring uh to make sure that we're on track and that we keep getting updates. We don't want to wait and then 6 months later saying, "Oh, yeah, well, we we ran into something else and so we'll get back to

it." And we know um we truly appreciate the fact that we've been working with Mr. Rojas. He has been an asset for the city and we appreciate all the work that he's done and the transparency that he's shown uh with the commission and we uh appreciate the work that we are able to do with him. But we want to also make sure that uh we continue to push this work forward. uh we've been working on it in the community for over five years and so we've been waiting patiently for this to move forward and um we're hoping that this year is the year that we see some movement on it and that we are able to implement the changes that are necessary and I just wanted to amplify also Mr. Blind's comment about infill on Tennessee and on Springs Road. um that was part of the general plan update and we've kind of left that go right now and that we have locations there that we can put in multi-use um um structures there for especially for housing because there's a lot of buildings that have been empty for years uh and that we could bring that business and more prosperity to those neighborhoods as well. So, thank you.

All right. Thank you uh for coming up and sharing it uh with the planning commission. Uh do we have anyone else online or no other speakers at this time, chair?

Okay, great. And so I want to take this time to acknowledge the speakers that came out and uh shared their perspective on the general housing plan uh element and I think it was I believe it was very uh insightful for sharing your perspective for those who are in the actual community. So, thank you so much for that and that type of participation is very much needed for the city of Valo to get various perspective to help move the city forward and take all the information and collectively and go through the process of figuring out how we can refine some of these policies that's in the best interest of everyone in our community. So, I'm going to open it up now uh close the public forum and open up back to the commissioner to deliberate or if they have any questions. Uh yes. I just I just want to challenge staff um to get the renter protection and housing stability inclusionary housing ordinance done through city council approval by the end of this year. That is what I am challenging staff to do. I know that there's a lot of work that needs to be done. You're working with consultants or contractors. Um, but this has been going on too long. It really has. Through the chair, I I will add that that is definitely feasible. Uh, we're at a point now where we're um mobilized in terms of the uh renter protection u housing stability program um and the inclusionary. We're at a point where we're going to start either engaging um community uh or developing the ordinances. So I think this is a good point at um at this point. I just wanted to add that that's totally feasible in terms of the end of the year. And uh one thing I wanted to add is our uh director has asked uh myself and uh Cesar to uh bring monthly updates to you on current

development projects um that are in the pipeline as well as long range planning initiatives. So, uh, you'll see me a little bit more often and, uh, appreciated, uh, Leah's comment about, um, you know, having you guys, uh, you know, be well informed about where we're at so that, uh, you know, 6 months down the line we don't come up with, you know, an obstacle that you never heard about. So, uh, we'll start bringing, uh, that to you uh, on a monthly basis. Any other questions from the commissioners or comments? I I go ahead. It's fine. I just want to thank staff and everybody else for all the work that you do

toward trying to get our city to to move along. Inch along. It is inchling along. Inching inching along, isn't it? But you know what? It's it's I don't we we need a boy. We you guys you I really appreciate all the work you guys do. And I know it's not easy and there's a lot to it. And on top of that, you don't always see that many results. But if you look around, we've got some development. We've got about five or six projects of significant size that are coming. And uh is there a lot of work to do? Yeah. But, you know, I think we just have to keep our nose to the grindstoneone and and keep on pushing. Um god damn it. This is a city of Valo. Do you really Nobody seems to under to get what this place is. And I think somehow that we've got to all get together and figure out a way to let people know this straight of Corinus runs right by here. Highway 80 goes. I mean this is a a fabulous place. It's just somehow somehow it it's we're not selling it well enough. You know that this freaking incredible. I mean I've lived a lot of places. Denver and New York and St. Louis and I've visited untold cities. There are many like this one, you know, do you you go down Admiral Callahan there and you can drive by and there's sailboats and you can smell the ocean. We got we we got to let people know what's going on. How the hell is that the Walnut Creek? They don't even have Do they have a pond over there? I mean, it's sad. It really is really sad this place. You when I moved here from um I got here back in '89 and I lived in San Ramon for a short while and

then I heard about Valo and I came and I lived in in in in Glen Cove and I noticed like any mixed population that it had a tinge, you know. Sorry folks, but we're going to get real here. So get up around 30 40% African-American or Hispanic, then it gets a tinge, you know, and people are sort of But I came out here with with vision, you know, I've lived right outside of Boulder, Colorado. I mean, I've lived good places and I thought this and it's still a good place, but I just don't get the lack of investment. And I know our planning people, it's so glad I'm so glad to see you guys have full staff now, right? And and and a lot of the things having to do with arena and housing is is we just haven't had staff. We do now. So, if we can just kind of put a little love in and and keep on pushing it and let's not drop our heads cuz this this we got to let people know. I love people to say something about Valo and then I I get an opportunity to point them in a in a different direction because they don't understand. But thank you. Thank you staff. It's great. We've got a staff Caesar and and all of you guys for doing all the work you do. But you know, let's just keep pushing and and believe in our little town, you know, and maybe we'll get some roads paved someday soon. Huh? How about that? Thank you. Amen. Thank you. I think that was very well put and I I second that

that idea. I like I stated before numerous times that I've fell in love with the city and recognized the options that we have available here and I think with that it makes me want I had emphasis on how are we going to move forward with some of these policies because the idea is this should be something shared for everyone. the the these amenities that Commissioner Douglas is speaking of being close to the water being access to these being able to see the sailboats going through major corridor uh that is an entryway to the Bay Area from through through 80 I mean 80 east and 80 west so thinking about you know program F113 and the rental protection house sustainability as I read here you have 2.4 4 million to support a consultant feasibility. And I just want to be sure because it's like we have a commitment that we can have this information before city council by the end of the year, but the engagement is estimated to start in 2026. Uh can you kind of outline uh what that actually entail and you know a realistic timeline or what to kind of expect throughout the development of that process uh so we can kind of just set the right precedence for everyone and help me understand if I misinterpret anything. um with the dialogue.

Yeah, certainly. So, um we are actually interviewing the consultant teams tomorrow. Um by the end of the week, we should know which team we're going to recommend to the city council in terms of preparing um the specific plan update for the downtown specific plan. That's where the renter protection um and anti-displacement policies are actually going to happen as part of that um initiative. dividends actually $13 million for that particular specific plan update. So once we uh get the contra the consultant under contract, which will probably be another 30 days at the least, uh we will be kicking off that uh community engagement around the anti-displacement uh policies. Uh that's going to be one of the first um line items that we're going to uh really grill our uh consultants on is how can how fast can we deliver the public engagement and what is that going to look like? Uh so that's particularly why we haven't been able to nail down specific um milestones and an overall time frame for that housing element program is because we are listening to the consultant teams what they're proposing should be the community engagement. At the minimum though, that's going to require some public workshops both in person, some popups, online uh interactions, looking at our community- based organizations that are already working in those areas to bring um you know, the people that they've been working thus far to those community meetings. Uh but also looking at the other side of the coin, which is, you know, we have people that are living in rental units, but we also have people that are renting those out and, you know, doing community outreach to those. And so being able to balance those voices and their concerns, it's it's going to be a balancing act really. Um so we want to represent both sides, if you will, um equitably and you know bring that uh hard decision to both the planning commission and the city council as to based on that community input and the feasibility studies, do we still want to move in that direction? um and

how should we tweak the program so that we take you know those um disparate viewpoints and real consequences or issues into account so that we don't do um you know we don't have any unintended consequences and we didn't have to go back and and correct. So, it it's going to be a very uh detailed um you know process and hopefully once we have that consultant um I think what we might be able to do is bring you an update and show you the scope of work with you know task by task uh deliverables in terms of community engagement and specific milestones with dates uh so that you know what's coming um in advance of you know that end of the 2026 deadline.

Great. Thank you. That's the only questions I have as of right now. Do any other fellow planning commissioners or questions or comments?

Great. Well, thank you again. I I do want to thank the planning commission. I mean, well, yes, definitely thank the planning commission because you guys have a lot of great ideas and questions which we be able to flesh out some of these ideas for the public and the planning department. Thank you so much for your work and working diligently uh to on these policies and moving things forward. I know it's a a lot of work considering that we're dealing with constraints, but you guys showed exemplary um efforts to make it almost seem seamless. So, thank you very much for that. Uh so, I guess we can open it up now uh to uh a vote if we want to move forward and recommend this to the uh to city council. So, I I motion uh to adopt a resolution accepting and recommending city council approval of the general plan and housing element annual progress report for the calendar year 2025.

Second. Okay. Second. We have five eyes and the motion carries. Apologies. Six eyes and the motion carries.

All right. Great. Thank you. Uh and again thank you for the presentation and thank you uh uh fellow commissioners and the planning planning department. All right so we're going to move to the next agenda item which is written communications through the chair. We have not received any written communications for this evening.

All right. Thank you. And so we're going to move to the next agenda item is report of the presiding officer and members of the planning commission. Uh we'll start with uh agenda item 9A the secretary report. um through the chair. I'm going to actually jump in on this one tonight. Um we have a PowerPoint presentation that I wanted to test drive with this group and see um if we can get your thoughts on it. Um basically we we heard the comments that were um shared at the last meeting about providing some more regular updates on things that are happening um on a regular basis throughout the department. So, um, we put together kind of a little template, uh, presentation report that we're thinking we can use, um, once a month to share standard information and kind of bring you predictable information, um, to help tell that story as we kind of go forward. So, this is what we have. Uh, first slide. Thought it might be helpful to start out with touching um, on some recent city council actions or updates. Um, most importantly, there was a meeting on the 24th, just last week, I believe. Uh, the council um had a very important conversation about the mid-year budget. Um, there also was a presentation that was provided by um economic development and um myself for the planning and development services department related to our 2025 year-end summary. So, um I actually prepared a pretty detailed um year-end summary report that you can get on our planning web page. This is the the link to it. It's kind of a shortcut link. Um, a lot of good information there with a lot of data um about what we did in the department last year. Um, let's see. And then the other important item from that meeting was that at the very end of the meeting there was some direction uh provided by council member Matias um that is going to be specific for the ad hoc subcommittee that we um are going

to be talking about uh in relation to preparation of a work plan. Um he tasked the planning commission with a very um focused assignment to take a look at um existing uh general plan uh policy areas related to certain business corridors and mixed use areas which is um kind of fitting for the discussion we just had. and to look for opportunities to streamline development and look for ways to maybe increase um density and then provide back some formal recommendations to the city council. So um if the group tonight decides to um take that step two of two and set up the ad hoc subcommittee, this is going to be one of the first things that um staff will help you um kind of work on. So slide um upcoming actions. Um Cesar, do you want to jump in on this slide?

Yeah. Um, for the first meeting in April, we have a major use permit and a public convenience or necessity for the request to add off-site alcohol sales for an existing grocery store uh located at 480 480 Redwood Street. Um, we also do have the Fairview Northgate plan development and housing amendment. This is the what's known as the Costco project. Um, this is going to be coming back before the planning commission where there is a request for an amendment to increase the density on the residential component from 175 units to 245. Um, they're proposing a new type of product that we haven't seen here in Val, which is a clustered development with three units on one parcel with the condo map. Um, so it's a shared um common area where there's two DT single family residents uh facing the street. There is a proposal of three twocar garages that are off of an alley with another unit above it. And then of course with around the edges, there'll be detach single family residences. They're actually also including a neighborhood park that wasn't part of the original proposal. And the lineer park is continuing to be proposed as part of the amendment. um as well as um Hector Rojas um Laura Zaguri and myself uh we've been working on the update of the ADU ordinance uh which will be coming before the planning commission with the recommendation to city council is to make an um essentially bringing our ADU ordinance that the plan city council adopted back in uh 2021 and bringing it up to the new the new regulations that the the state has created for ADUs. So that will be coming um tenatively um before the planning commission making a recommendation to the city council.

Um thank you. And just a reminder all of those dates are tentative so they could change. Um next slide we thought um uh moving forward we actually track on a monthly basis the permit activity in the building division. Um thought this might be something that would be interesting for this group. Um as of right now I just have the year-end total information to share. This is something that was um included in the year-end report, but it's kind of interesting to see that um last year we had um less overall permits issued in the building division. However, the job valuation for the work that was done was significantly higher, which meant we collected a lot more in fees than the prior year. So, just kind of an interesting thing to note. Also, um our building inspectors did over 11,000 um inspections last year, which is a lot of inspections. So, I just think that's kind of a a cool um data point to mention. Um and then lastly here, we have a couple slides just to kind of talk about some of these advanced planning projects. Um, I think we've talked on most of these tonight, so um, maybe we don't need to review them again, but um, this is definitely the point where we can invite Hector to provide any, um, additional updates. Um, I don't know if there's anything else to add on these items. Is there?

Uh, no. I I think the slide does a really good job of summarizing everything. Happy to answer any questions you have on any of those. Yeah, we have I think one more slide with some long range. Um, oh, these these two I don't think we talked about. Um, you want to jump in?

Yeah, sure. So, for the environmental justice, uh, general plan amendments, um, this was something that the city hired place works to do, I think, starting in, uh, 2022. Um, so this was one of the initiatives that I picked up when I first came on board and we've been working uh with uh, our director as well as as our city attorney's office and a few others in the city to review the draft work that um, was put together by place works. Um we are just making the final uh modifications to the draft documents. Um and those will be hopefully fingers crossed um submitted for public uh review and comment at the end of this week. Might go into next week. But um these are amendments that are um prepared uh to uh satisfy the SB or Senate Bill 1000 requirements. Um, essentially when we update our housing element, we're required to look at incorporating uh element an element or policies and goals into the general plan that address environmental justice to um allow for better health outcomes in our community to provide better connections to make decisions more equitably. So, for example, um as we're looking at future uh capital improvement projects, um the list of CIP projects in the city, um there will be potentially a focus more on having uh prioritization and disadvantaged uh communities or census tracks that um are more heavily uh burdened by pollution or health outcomes. Um so that might be a policy outcome from um this work. Um, again, we're hopefully uh providing a public and review comment at the end of this week, and you'll see a press release uh for that um hopefully on Friday. Um, as far as the Mayor Island specific plan, um, we've been working on that since uh, October of 2024, reviewing the draft uh, specific plan, we had submitted those to um, all of our departments to review and provide comment. Um, about 3 weeks ago,

we submitted a official comment letter to Mayor Island Company. um that is uh going to trigger a second um draft of the specific plan to address the uh city's uh concerns, the city staff's concerns. Um so hopefully we will have a revised land use plan to uh come back and present to you uh so that you know uh what we uh submitted or what we received in October of 2024, what's been changing in terms of the potential vision and land use for uh Maryland. Um so right now at this point we have a special study session that um we're trying to coordinate uh between the planning commission and city council similar to what we did for the inclusionary housing uh policy to uh provide you with an update on the specific plan. uh give you a 101 in terms of what's uh included there and potentially get feedback before we um drift more towards a final version of the land use plan which will be instrumental for um basing the environmental review which we have already started. Um there's another kink in terms of what we're doing on environmental. Normally we just do SQUA uh which it's going to be a programmatic and project based um environmental impact report. Uh but we're also uh needing to comply with the national um environmental protection act NEPA. Um so there is a document that we're going to be preparing alongside with the SQA document. We're working with the Navy to determine what level of environmental review they're going to be requiring. So um that's the update on that and uh we'll provide uh some more details in uh April once we're able to nail down that uh special study session uh with you guys and the city council.

Um so that's it. Um, I feel like, uh, moving forward, we will, if if you think this is helpful, we can continue to kind of provide regular updates. We can try and keep it short and sweet and relevant to, you know, the most recent things that are happening. Um, but if you have any feedback, we'd love to take it.

I'm all for uh of feedback. I I like the progress. I like the flow. It keeps us engaged because we're up here and we can vote on a project and we won't remember it until it's fully developed sometimes. Um, and it's because it's out of sight, out of mind. So, that followup is important. Um, so I appreciate you taking the time to do it.

Um, yeah, I really want this. I I've been asking for this for a while now. you directed us to this uh website umnednet.pds. Is that the literal um uh spreadsheet that all the project product or projects are listed on or? No, actually that is the landing page for our department on the city's website. Okay. at the bottom of that page, we added a link to this specific report which was prepared specifically for um the 2025 year end and it's a little bit more um there's a lot of narrative in there. So yeah, I've I've seen it.

But this is something we can go and look at and and kind of keep ourselves a breast of kind of what you guys think is think are important and uh maybe we can know what we're doing. Huh. I think it's great. Thank you. Yeah. Go ahead. Oh, no. I was just going to say uh thank you to the director and Caesar Hector and the staff. You guys, I think it was a good job. It definitely helps and we appreciate it.

Um, one more thing. um the projects that for some reason or another do not or that stop or do not go forward. I think it would be really in interesting and just you know just a heads up for us things that we've approved but for some reason they've they're not going to move forward. I'll take note of that. Um, I will add, uh, I was also thinking about adding kind of a short list of some of the projects that were approved at, uh, director level just so you can see because those don't always, you know, come up. Um, didn't have time to pull that together for this one, but maybe next month we'll add that in.

Yep. Um, yeah, I think that would be great that, uh, some of the director level ones. Uh, another aspect. First of all, thank you. Um, I really appreciate this. This is the kind of information I think is very valuable for us to be able to be advocates, be able to understand what's going on, help answer questions when people ask us random questions in the grocery store, other places when they're like, "You're on the planning commission, aren't you?" Um, you must know the answer to this. Um, so, um, the addition that would be nice on there is I know we routinely get, you know, kind of some zoning code cleanup. Um, if there's anything there that you see that's coming, that would be a nice recurring topic. We're like, "Hey, we're looking at this. We're seeing that this is a a snag in our in our permitting process. There's a loophole that we'd like to see closed." Uh, that would be another nice one to kind of see how that goes before it comes to us for a vote. Um, that would be really helpful. And then um if we could get uh a copy of this emailed to us after the the meeting and then we can make use of all those nice links that you have in there uh and click on these things and follow that out. That would be really helpful.

Um just a quick response. I think actually um one thing we can do is um just publish this slide as part of the supplemental application materials in the packet so that it's on the website associated with the meeting date and anybody can go grab it. Um, and then also the zoning cleanup. We we actually find those all the time. Yeah. Um, and we have a list of a zoning issue tracker that we kind of try to document all of those things to keep track of them all. So, um, that's how we're doing it internally. I'm not sure that all of them are going to rise to the level of of coming to the meetings as we go, but um, if we find anything major, we can definitely share those.

Yeah. things like trends or things that you're cleaning up especially that maybe have been a headache for people that we can if there's people come to us and say this has been a headache we can say well actually uh the staff is working on that they they hear that pain and they're trying to solve for it would be really helpful

yes no this was great thank you so much I appreciate it and this is one question I have for these those items that were on on your presentation if we request to, you know, go into a deep dive with some of those those policy or some of the work that the planning department is working on. You know, how much noise will we need to provide you with so we can just do a deep dive so we can give you ample time uh to properly repair in in in L I mean in addition to your busy work schedule, working on all the other more important projects out of moving things for the city forward.

That's a great question and I'm gonna say it probably depends on the item. So if there's something that comes up during maybe one of our um you know staff uh report outs then I would say bring it up then and we can um assess it at that time and figure out how much time we would need to be able to come back with more information. So case by case is yes what I would suggest.

Right. Great. Well thank you. I appreciate it and thank you for the presentation. That was extremely helpful. So, if there's no other questions or any uh comments, uh we can move to the next agenda item 9C, the report of the of the chairperson and members of the commission. As of right now, I don't have anything to report. Uh do my fellow commissioners have anything to share or report. All right. So, we can move to 9D uh which leads which is report of the ad hoc subcommittees. We don't have a subcommittee at this moment, but this is a great segue into the next agenda item uh which is other which is step two of two uh the creation of a work plan ad hoc subcommittee. Uh so excuse me. So I can start off there. So uh oh I'm sorry. Um through the chair, I'm going to be looking at Assistant City Attorney Laura Zagel just to make sure I'm understanding the the next step. So, uh step two out of two. Um tonight is where we're going to kind of create specific goals and deadline for the ad hoc subcommittee to

No. No. Okay. Go ahead. This is where you vote to put it on the agenda. We did. This is where you take a vote to put it on the agenda. Correct. Yes. No, that was where you took a Yeah, it's a two-step. One is where you It's a two-step process to get it on the agenda and then once it's on the agenda, then you make the subcommittee.

Okay. So let let me ask so let me see if I can uh clarify the question here. So we need to add this onto agenda make to have a vote to have it added onto the agenda uh before we can actually start the creation of a work plan. Correct. Perfect. Okay. Thank you. That was very helpful. I move to put it on the agenda. Is that what we do now? I second. I third. Tim, I'm just kidding. This is so complicated.

I think there's a lot a lot of thought goes into it. Uh yeah. No, I think I need three more votes.

We have six eyes and the motion carries. work plan at the next. Yes.

Okay. Great. Thank you. So, I do have a question in related to what we have just passed by putting this on the agenda. Uh just at a high level, uh what should we expect at our at the next meeting or is there anything that we should be prepared to present or we should be aware of before our next meeting to put together a subcommittee u work plan for the ad hoc subcommittee? Oh, well, um, it has to be less than a quorum. So, you have to decide amongst you who really wants to be on it and who really doesn't want to be on it. Because if you really want to be on it, but a lot of you really want to be on it, some of you are not going to make it onto the subcommittee. So, because you're a seven, well, now you're six member board. Um, you can only have three because it takes four of you to take an action. So it has to be less than less than four.

Okay. And then um you you have to have a goal or a set of goals and you have to have a general like you either have to have a defined goal so that the subcommittee has a a defined termination of the committee which would be when you've finished the goal or you have a date like we're going to meet in for six months and we'll come back at the end of six months. So like it has to have a finite term. So it's either defined by a date or by a goal. So does that make sense?

Yes. Question. Um when I initially proposed this um it was for the work plan. Now it seems like to it's going to be morphed into um additional requirements from um council person Matias and what he challenged from the planning commission. Well, what I was going to say or what I said silently was that one council member cannot direct anybody to do anything. So it's a suggestion, right? So you don't have to follow it

unless they all voted on it. Okay. Well, she she corrected me and they they all voted on it. So we or we can review the tape and I can tell you next time. But so I'm I'm sorry. I I was there. I I mean I was listening in and they did vote on that item. Um however, I think that the nature of it could be folded into some of the goals that you're looking at as part of your work plan. So um I think it is in alignment with that. Well, are we allowed to have a generalized discussion about work plan and what that means and what what each of us are sort of Yeah, because you know just just an open forum kind of thing. I mean, yeah, because

yeah, I was just gonna say, um, to prepare us, I think it would be helpful, um, I think we should anticipate having a little deliberation amongst ourselves about what the work plan could entail that then the ad hoc subcommittee, whoever they may be, can then take forward and implement. Um if we could ask of staff for uh examples, templates, uh something that you think is a good um form for this um uh work plan that would be helpful. Not asking it to be filled out, but I know of two good ones, so I could share two. What's that?

I know of two good work plans. They're one of them may be draft, but it's good. And then there's another one that was adopted by council last year. So could share that one. I think that would be very helpful as we as we think about and deliberate what we think ours could include just have a a reference of what these look like. Yeah. How many through the chair? How many goals um can we have within the workg group? Is there a cap on the number of goals that we can set?

I think that's a good I think that's a good question. I think that's where if we have a work plan when we draft this out and determine, okay, what is our mission statement was going to be what is our objectives are and probably within those objectives might have, you know, subtasks in there that might be in alignment with it where you we're dealing with two or three while we're looking at the overall picture of it. So I think it'll be something that we can reasonably come to an understanding on because we have to consider what the what our capacity level is and and a scope of our our work within the legal frame and our our knowledge and expertise and at at the perfect time. Uh Council Member Matulla, can you please uh chime in and give us some guidance on this, please?

I'd be happy to. And as I mentioned, tomorrow's uh special city council meeting, we have several work plans that we're going to be reviewing and approving. So I would recommend if you guys can take a look at that at the tomorrow's agenda and look at the um the work plans that are being proposed to present in front of us that may be a good uh baseline to kind of look at and obviously specify to what you as a planning commission obviously your role is going to be different from some of the other commissions and boards but kind of use that maybe as a guideline or um maybe as a template to to use um and many of them may be more budget related so that may or may not impact some of the the things that you may be looking at. But once again, using um Council Member Matias's kind of what his idea was um and and and potentially looking at some of this other specific things that you as a planning commission are looking for. Once again, this is an ad hoc commission where the um the non-majority of you will be um throwing out ideas, but then ultimately you as a count you as a commission will be voting on on what the ultimate work plan may be to present in front of the city council. So that's that would be my recommendation suggestion.

Yes. Great. Thank you. And one one important question I have is even when we're in the process of putting together this committee because we will have to have the members selected first before we even start thinking about a mission or a strategy and collaborating on that piece. Uh what would be the the proper steps to establish the three? Do we vote or nominate or nominate oursel and after we have it on the agenda is that will be the time we'll do this?

Um I'll just jump in. Uh to be honest, this is my first time going through this process as well. So, I'm going to suggest that we actually prepare a short staff report to help guide you through this process at the next meeting so you know exactly what we're looking for um and what your steps are. So, we'll we'll give that to you in advance

and and through the chair. Another recommendation I may have is um having gone through this process in the past is um to avoid any Brown Act violations is if you have any recommendations, push put um uh forward those recommendations to staff and they can send out a an email to each of you to where you can ultimately be BCCD in them to where you can have your own. But once again, um once again to avoid Brown Act violations, um forward any thoughts or or ideas through staff first and have them um help communicate the mass communication between you as a commission. Great. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. Uh any other questions or comments?

All right. Great. Uh, one last thing I was just going to say, um, coming from being that our council men and women have given some sort of direction. Um, so I I pay attention to what people don't say and I think it's important for us to pay attention to that. um because there is some underlying things that may be um needing to be either addressed or looked at, worked on um or reviewed. And I challenge us as a group to we are to work in tandem with our leadership. And that's all I'm going to say.

I agree. And challenge accepted. So if there's no other question or any other comments. Uh thank you council member Mullik uh for your guidance. I appreciate it. So So if there's any other questions or comments, I think we can close out this this line item and we can move to the final uh adjournment and close the planning commission meeting at 8:24. Right.