City Council - Regular Meeting

Vision set for where we're headed with it. And then for this meeting, probably nothing at this time. Okay.

Public works projects are racking up. They are feeling good about where they're at. They're still trying to get the okay from the state. And they're working on that planning and zoning. We had such an amazing meeting last week. It was positive. Not everybody agreed, but they had positive communication and Just everything was just great. It was the way the planning commission should be run. So kudos to you too, thank you.

We have two in background. You're right. So we have two guys in background.

For hiring.

For the police department? Yeah. Okay. I thought you were going to ask.

I thought you were going to ask.

My background checks coming up.

other than that things are i've actually been gone quite a bit so scott are probably able to shed more light if there's an additional one or a replacement replacement for sheriff of arizona oh

Okay. I got to get my recording going here so I can write up some good minutes after the meeting. Next is a presentation resolution 2646 agreement for bailiff services. Lindsay.

So it's the same agreement we brought you last time. Our current bailiff has resigned. So we need to figure something out now. So this is a good option.

We think that they provide all of the training, the bulletproof vests, the guns, everything. We don't have to provide that. Just pay the hourly rate. So. I support it. Okay.

So you have, you know who this person is.

Yeah, so from my understanding, Cynthia has talked to the bailiff service.

I haven't. They're a reputable service in other courts used.

I think the cost is close enough.

The police department doesn't have any objections.

didn't accept okay next one um uh councilman jacks would like to talk to us about a project that he's been working on discharge of project house i want to say something before you do this for me this is exciting to see the council involved in resolutions and ordinances and working with the city on dictating the way that this government runs thank you and and i know all of you are busy like this never ever be afraid to come up with an idea let's see if we can come up with a resolution or an ordinance and move forward that's our job as city council so kudos and time goes

So this one's really kind of basic. I think it's ridiculous that parents can't buy their eight-year-old a baby gun at Christmas and then they have to go out into the county to shoot if they can't sell them something in the backyard. I think it's ridiculous. And so I didn't even know that there was a van. on any of it until a few months ago. Well, I guess several months ago. So this does a couple of things. It doesn't authorize firearms. State code, federal code, those all still apply. This applies to BB guns, slingshots. There's age requirements. the homeowner's responsible for any damage. They can't be heard from an adjacent property. Like all of these things, it's letting homeowners use their land for what they want. And so that's kind of the nuts and bolts of it. 22 would be considered by now.

Just making sure. I know, even suppressed. Even suppressed, I checked.

So we already need 22,000. i was just asked that jerry and i were reading through this same resolution monday and it's just we're reading through the same resolution in the code and we agree with councilman rejects and because in the actual code it prohibited screenshots and so that was i i had to go home and confiscate these screenshots probably so this was it's one of our positions is why incriminate the whole population with one lot? So I haven't gotten through all of this, but I know exactly which part of the code Councilmember Jackson is addressing.

And so this would actually repeal

By the way, to clarify, when I ask questions, it's not always the right question. Yeah. Oh, I don't know. If you get them publicly, you- Don't go. I tried to figure out, I got three of them.

So I heard it, and maybe this is more appropriate in the council reports, but

I heard a phrase that basically said, there's a cost of freedom. If we were absolutely worried about safety of everybody, the speed limit would not exceed 15 miles an hour anywhere in the country. And it would eliminate traffic deaths. And so what we do is we trade that off because we want to get to places quicker. So we're like, OK, I understand I'm taking a bigger risk by traveling faster. and that this can occur, but I won't be able to do that. And I think, for me, the last six months have been really educational for me. And I haven't gotten them all right. And I've made mistakes. I haven't asked questions when I should have. I haven't listened to counsel that I should have. And that's not going to be an issue. I can't say it's not going to be an issue. I'm going to try for it not to be an issue from here on out. I think creating that environment of freedom, when I was in Las Vegas, and it does tie into this, I ran into a guy that has a website and I texted a couple of here just to bounce the idea. But it basically goes through and it's an AI platform and they analyze city ordinances City Council minutes, resolutions, things like that. And then you get a freedom score. It's like this is how, and I said, you know what, I'm really intrigued by that. It's called the Citizen Portal. I think it's citizenportal.ai. And it's free for the public to get on and you can see that. he's giving me the spill you know and talking about how councils don't like it and i'm like well i'm actually a sitting council member and i'm i'm intrigued by this and he was like really i said yeah let me let me bounce it off a couple and see like i'm a little like maybe there was 116 117 in vegas so that could have been the cause but i i said for me it's the score is what the score is And if we truly want to be transparent to the public, let's figure out where we're at and the score that we want to be. And if we come in higher than average, awesome. If we come in way low, then it's like, okay. And it'll point out exactly which ordinance, which condition caused the thing. Was this the result of one of that? Is that what you saw? No, but I was kind of in the midst of that. This came from my son and his wife. They moved in with her parents. And so obviously, we are storing all their stuff. My son called me one day and he needed a photo of his birth certificate. And so I went to his safe and opened it up and there sat the lead gun that we gave him when he was eight. And my grandson's five. And I'm like, man, I would love for when they come up, I would love to take him out in the backyard or out in the alley and, you know, shoot a lead gun. And I'm like, I can't. I can't even do that.

and i just so this would be live everywhere in the city limits yep homeowner's responsible for any damage well i i you know i read your thing that you sent on the aid i think i score us yes this is what helps us but with this issue this particular ordinance right here i don't have a problem with it because if we have the ordinances in place hey, your kid shoots a BB gun or a slingshot or an airsoft or whatever the deal is, and you damage their property, that we have checkpoints, should have checkpoints in place that helps with this problem. So we own a couple of, I have a BB gun. It's fun to, up in Idaho, we go in our son's backyard this great big plywood piece and it was just fun it's under parent supervision and it's not always going to happen under parent supervision we know that but we're not we're not parenting parents here exactly we are setting an ordinance and living by it and so there have been any counter arguments that anybody's heard or excuses why that was a reason to put in place consider somebody reached out to me a few months ago and said if this ever comes up, don't do it. There was a problem on about first or second east where a teenager went out and decided to shoot some windows at houses and some cars. But he did it late at night. I'm not excusing. He was caught. He had to pay. But like I said, you can't parent parents. It's just a fun activity.

well and it's not like it's not like you wouldn't have said wait let me check the organs first it says i can't go and shoot out other windows so now what am i going to do and kate you know all it does is punish i think the only problem i have if it comes from my medical background

I've seen a couple eyes shot out, and I've seen a couple kids that have been killed with BBs. And so parents have got to take responsibility to teach. It's like with any gun, right? But we've got to teach our children to be careful. And a BB gun can kill. It can absolutely kill someone. Yeah.

I'm just kind of thinking these apartment buildings with kids out there shooting. we know they don't have any space and they're shooting, they're allowed to shoot BB guns out there.

It's personal property, the property owner would have to. Any apartment complex or anything like that, they would have to have the apartment complex's approval to do that. And the apartment complex would be taken on liability, so I don't see them doing that.

All right, well this comes up as a discussion in our strategic session too, so we'll open it up for public and any questions or comments they have, we can do that sometime. Thank you for that. Next is our Trails and Open Space Master Plan.

Is that all three of you?

All right. Let's see, we have 10 minutes left.

So if you can try to do this in 20 minutes, 25, that would be awesome.

Okay, community development staff is the one to bring this forward just because we're the ones to kind of draft the ordinance, do the kind of clerical work of this item. But Parks and Rec must and should take all the credit for all of the drafting of the plan, hiring Landmark to draft the plan, and bring this forward. So I did go to Planning Commission having met all of the public notice standards. There wasn't a strong turnout for the public hearing itself, but there were some comments just about the plan that yielded sort of like a, how can I say it, some last minute changes on the draft coming before this. This meeting landmark design was pretty on the ball when it came to incorporating comments from both the Planning Commission and the community And so we feel like we have a pretty good master plan. Better to have a plan than no plan. I don't think we should delay to get the perfect plan. The plan's going to be amended. We do have a strong master plan for parks and recs, but I'd rather use my time to .

Yeah, so a little bit of the history of the plan. So if you remember back in 2013, SDAT came to town and went around the town and gave some recommendations and at that same time they talked about the murals and everything all the benefits and the amenities and different things that tremont has from that in 2017 the community gathered or the city gathered community input and worked with simon sorenson to create a main street plan that main street plan kind of changed into, in 2020, the city hiring NAPMARP design and creating an integrated land use plan. That integrated land use plan was designed to work with our current general plan. Thank you. But we've seen a substantial amount of growth since then, right? So in 2021, Landmark brought the concept to the city. Then in 2022, they had the draft and in 23, they finally adopted the integrated land use plan. Chapter three of the integrated land use plan was on parks, trails, and open space. And a lot of that information was taken from the 2011 parks, trails, and open space master plan. So that one superseded the 2011 one. Then during that same exact time in 21 and 22 is when we saw all the massive growth in Tumana, where we went from an average of 100 units per year, we saw 300 both of those years. So we were already into the, We were already ten years behind our plan at that point. And that was just off projections of the sewer plan. So me being a new director, looking for guidance where to go, so let's just create our own master plan for parks and recreation, trails and open space. So that's kind of where this came from. So the plan itself has six chapters. First chapter is the introductions and outlines, purpose, the ProQuad community, some summaries and a little bit of who we are as a community. Chapter two is the parks section. It goes over the level of service community needs with standards and recommendations. Chapter three is the detailed parks and designs. uh chapter four is the trails uh chapter and chapter five is on open space and then chapter six is the implementation uh funding priorities and and kind of a roadmap for staff to follow um so uh what you see on the screen is the top recommendations from each chapter uh within that um it also sets the goals and priorities that we should be looking towards and helps us as we move forward with trying to handle growth on the park side. So a little bit into each chapter. So this master plan is gonna help us connect our current city park system to the city's mission and vision of connecting where we are with where the city wants to be based off the mission and vision. And this will also go in hand with the council's current working on their priorities and what the priorities are set. So with parks and rec. The plan uses a two lens approach with one as an analytical approach, seeing how what we have today stacked up against other cities and other communities our size and in our region, but it also, and also national standards. And the second is on public outreach approach on using the wellness surveys public engagement community needs assessment and the park showcase to see what the community desires are for parks today so this this plan was given us a framework for policies for goals for budgets and standards to work towards so some key takeaways some top takeaways from from some of it is the residents use parks frequently. Stevens, Schuman, and North Park are the most frequented, most highly rated overall also. If you go in the mornings, there's usually a dozen or so people walking the trail every morning. And then after five, it's usually packed with sports every day almost. Then overall park quality is a positive, however, Meadow Park and then here at the city office, residents are desiring better amenities and updated to those parks. Top priorities from the community overall are better trail connectivity, having additional parks, improved communication and programs like dog parks and aquatics. A rec center is also a high priority and often joins in with the aquatics discussion. Those two usually go hand in hand when we care for the residents. Looking at the level of service, national park standards have a city our size at 13 acres per 1,000 residents. You've heard me say before how low we are, we're at a 2.4 acres per 1,000 residents. That's a low number, but it shouldn't be alarming because we do also live in the west. So not every state and community has six national parks within a five hour drive, right? And we have 120 some thousand acres of farmland. So there's a ton of open space here. I think that 13 acres is typically driven from the east where it's highly dense and highly populated. And so they do have higher amounts of parks. The number we should be focusing a lot more on is park access, making sure that we have a park within a half mile of all of our residents so that our residents have access to parks when needed. Also playing areas, our ball diamonds, our open space for sports needs to be included in that and improved. That is something our parks are heavily used for sports that they give. overused and over demanded that it's hard for other things to come in and recreate and do things that they would like to do during the peak hours of the morning the rest of the time during the days kids are at school parents are at work and so our parks go unused during that time most of the time um Park access and the level continues to decrease as the population grows. So our level of service, the more people come in, the lower that goes. The most important thing to plan for now is acquiring land for future. Right now, the city doesn't have much land. We do have some that is earmarked for parks and recreation, which we are super grateful for. as we continue to look toward the future it's important to acquire more land that we can either trade or or invest in or do other things so residents should be able to walk to a park within half mile of their home we do currently have some gaps i believe we have three gaps but our new parks will will meet those needs, those gaps. We have three parks that will meet those needs as they get built. So beyond that, we need to make sure, and we've worked with the community development department to help us meet those needs in the future. We also evaluated amenities and how they stack up against our current level of service. We've set standards with the community input. And so we have a table in the plan that has how many surplus we have or how many deficient we are. It also sets us up by year up to 2050 on our current estimated growth, which we do believe to be low, because it is based on our current sewer plan. So as that sewer plan does get built out, we'll be able to update this to hopefully match that. be able to update those numbers once we get a better estimated growth plan. Priorities would be to develop planned parks, update existing parks, and then acquire a plan for future park use. The trails, they are probably the most high priority from the residents, from what we heard, is creating the community trail system They want to see the trail plant implemented, and that's something that we've talked a lot with the community about also. The open space chapter is seen as a high-level guide for open space and more natural areas. We don't have a ton of that other than farmland currently in town, but as we continue to build out, something to look more on. Then the implementation chapter goes over some funding ideas. When you look at the numbers on the cost, it's important not to get hung up on whatever that very high number is. But when we have the vision and the plan and the future in mind, that cost, we will figure it out as we go with funding implementation of different things in advance. In the needs assessment, it was asked about a rack tax and 70% in support of the RAP tax. So what do you need to do to implement that? So we're currently in the works of doing that. This year is a county ballot. So staff is working to get it on next year, which is the city ballot for 2027. So we're getting the wording in place right now, and then we'll have to go take it to the county to have them see if they want to move forward with a countywide RAP tax. in 2015 they declined that and so we had that option but now 11 years later i feel we need to do that again just to cover ourselves that see if they want to move forward and if not then we have that option to move forward as a city for the wrap tax um so we were getting what would that do to our our charts yeah it's like our low tax rate that brings

how much of it it's one tenth of a one percent so one penny for every ten dollars is what it is so this isn't something that's going to impact our merchants to whether we're going to lose more people coming in the door this is what i don't want we need everybody coming in each door that we can the sister app tax is really important i feel like we need that money for yeah so if you look at the parks going in around the state i mean

Kroger just put in a $22 million part. Lehigh, six months later, thought the same thing. And now every single part is almost being built out in that same way. We're not looking to do anything like that. But we are looking to get, hopefully, to that very large number that we talked about, right? To try to make a dent to get there. So one penny for every $10 is what a RAP tax would go toward. that would bring in right now, currently 300,000 is my estimate into the city for recreation arts and parks.

And that would be earmarked just for parks.

So it's recreation arts and parks. So it could go to anything related to that, how it's worded and how it's put together is up in the air. And that's something that would have to go to make it so it's a grant and outside entities can come and apply for it and get some of that. We want it for city use only. There's a lot of different variables. It would all be set here by the council.

Can I throw one thing on your radar? Actually, other than three separate people asking to give, like over here at Library Park,

They would take their kids there, but their kids, as soon as they hit the ground, they're off. And if there's a way to put up a fenced area.

Yeah, especially with it being by the street. I've had that same thing a lot of times. I just said I would throw it on your radar. I've heard that saying. So yeah, so that's

Yeah, what I have, any questions? Okay, so I've had wrap text, so it'll be on 2027 to vote for, is that?

If we get to that point. Yeah, if we get to that point. Okay. Yep, so that's staff's current goal, to get it there.

Okay.

And it was 70 what percent was generally in favor? I remember seeing that, yeah, I mean,

trying to find the exact stat yeah so it's and that's broken up between uh support and highway support right so so those two combined is over 70 percent 74 percent and it helps but it's kind of a drop in the bucket too right yeah

but you get a stretch but yeah because i mean yeah it's a it's a very high number but um and then it's not coming out of general funds for all the all of them well and the other thing to consider there too is a lot of the state level grants require a match and so if we can take those funds and say hey we're allocating to this Would you like to match oftentimes that level here? Because we do have it allocated.

Most of your trails grants that we're looking into is like an 80, 20% matching. Yeah.

Well, Zach, we know you've gone through a lot of work over a long period of time with this. The thing you did out at the fairgrounds was all part of this. So we appreciate all the work that you've done. This is a well put together plan. Thank you. All right, next on the docket is Ordinance 2613, convenient due to a rezone code text amendment.

Yeah, staff is looking to simplify parts of the process where it's unnecessarily convoluted. And in this case, there are things that per code we're requiring that we shouldn't be. So the changes to this code are meaningful. It's mainly strikethroughs, actually, of sections, parts of section B, C, and D of the code. It's doing a few things. So first, regarding A and B, a lot of the language for what staff is looking for narrative we don't want to be accused of tying an applicant down to like have them say things they don't need to or want to say so we're just taking out language that just says refer narrative hit a few beats reference our plans and reference the zoning map that keeps as simple as it keeps it clean two is the requirement for a map of staff has the skills and know-how of both Fox, Elver County and Jumbo and Associates MAPS, we can create maps. We don't need the applicants to waste their time doing that. D is in reference to how it's basically asking an applicant to bring up or to generate an engineered concept plan. And that's problematic.

When we talk about real money being put down for a proposal, it starts to look like applicants are guaranteed or vested certain things. So we don't want them spending any money on engineering when the question is, does the new zoning request and zoning fit in an area as it's been discussed before?

And let me clarify one thing, if you don't mind, Jeremy. Of course. This is for just hard zoning. This is important overlayable intensity. This is just strict zoning for the chain going from R1, R20 down to R110 or from R10 to R120. This is just our qualifications for strict zoning.

So we are streamlining and simplifying and this was reviewed by the Planning Commission.

In the new zone it would be required? Yes.

Okay. And they know that. That's something that we're providing another tool for the city. to have more stringent requirements.

Along with the development agreements.

So this was reviewed by the Planning Commission on July 14. There was really good discussion talking about largely how the Commission just wants to see a simplification of the process and gear our applicants towards looking at the general plan or the integrated land use plan, the future land use map that's part of that plan. the new parks plan, all of that.

These are good places for applicants to draw a strong argument from if they can swing that.

If they have, there's nothing that they're requesting to be adjacent that is just based on so much state federal precedence of being like a strong argument. Those are the types of things that should be discussed in the lead zone application. And so a good discussion from the Planning Commission. They recommended approval with a vote of four to zero.

members caper and miller were absent from that meeting with alternate members stickney filling in the voting thank you can i ask a favor yes do you have a like a zone cheat sheet that you know yes oh what a good idea somebody's something i try and get it down and yeah you mean you don't work around i'll look into the code and just send your simple table it doesn't have and it doesn't

It was a nice discussion that they had, though.

I mean, it went back and forth with different ideas, but in the end, they all said, let's do it.

Well, they mainly discussed striking the intent. They wanted, because our code requires what is the applicant's intent to do, and if you focus on that and you veer off that, intent can change. They can change hands.

and so we wanted to we just wanted the applicant to stick towards the land which planned the zoning the proper zoning principles and can we put that in the cheat sheet too and then i won't ask questions like i did last time okay we just did the cheat sheet so we all have it okay everybody's on the same page okay kind of like the you know the first time they come and when it's for this that's not time to say well what are you going to build yes that is when when we do

So when we do like an overlay with bonus entities, those are when you can bring intent in because you're doing a master plan community. When you're doing a strict zone change, but the intent should also always align with the land use plan and the general plan. And so that's where we want it. Like their intent may be something else, but what good planning principles, we'll have a cheap sheet of good planning principles.

So if I had a dollar for every time I've been corrected for putting equipment.

Pretty good. Thanks. Next one, ordinance 2416, planning code text amendment idea.

All right, so it came by the director from that council that we look at term limits. I want to focus on the planning commission themselves, how on the June 23rd meeting, there was a really good discussion that evolved more into Well, there's discussion on two, three, and four-year term limits, so there's just talk about the viability of each of those. But the Planning Commission did come up with a really good suggestion to look at code language for alternate members. And so staff in the report submitted in the meeting packet has option A that talks about the original draft written by staff. It just adjusts term limits and adjusts some other language in that section that already exists in our code. Option B encapsulates the discussion from the Planning Commission to talk about four-year terms per their suggestion, and then to draft this alternate member's codes consisting of subsections A and B as well. And so when it gets time to go to a motion, I'll be handing you a paper that looks like this where there's recommended motions in the staff report, but I expanded to talk about option A and B or corrections to give the council. I'll just get that to you now. There we go. Yep. But again, expanded recommended motions to give you clarity if you want to determine whether to go on to the ultimate waiver, which just .

I think it might be worth reading through just this short text.

Do you guys want to hear it? Yeah.

Let's go ahead. I'll go ahead. This is what the staff originally proposed to the Planning Commission, is we're adding instead of three years, two years, and shall expire. Because it wasn't clear in code how long and when it would expire. shall expire in january of the second year following the appointment and until their respective successor shall have been appointed provided that the terms shall be assigned and adjusted necessary to maintain staggered appointments so that the two members expect so that two terms of two members expire each year so we alternate kind of like you are the council alternate alternate members shall serve under the same term provisions and may serve in place of a absent or disqualified member until a new replacement is appointed as provided by this title. So it's just clarifying the staggering of the term limits and then also the alternate members can be in there. The only thing that they changed that the planning commission suggested was to increase the, and this is something for the council to deliberate on, from the two years to four years, they wanted four years term, and then I think this is the same code. That's all the same. And then they added the alternate members. We don't have a very strong code defining what alternate members do. This is what they added. The City Council may appoint one or more alternate members to the Planning Commission. Alternate members shall be Planning Commission members and shall be subject to the same appointment process, qualification, terms of office, training requirements, removal provisions, and compensation as all other members of the Planning Commission except otherwise provided in this section. And this is where they felt like the alternate members should be able to have a voice in the discussion, but not necessarily a vote, to kind of help prep them if they're ever appointed again. And so alternate members may participate in all Planning Commission meetings and deliberations, but shall not vote unless designated by the chairperson to serve in the place of an absent or disqualified voting member or when a vacancy exists on the Planning Commission when so designated. The alternate members shall... possess the same authority and voting privileges as members for whom they are serving. And B, in the event no alternate member is available to serve, the chairperson may designate a current NPI member who has regularly participated in NPI meetings as determined by the zoning administrator to serve as a temporary alternate member for that meeting. This is kind of helping prepare people who are active in the community to take a bigger role in how they can act because we're having a lot of a lot of discussion between MPI members and planning commission. We want them to work together. So a temporary alternate member designated under this subsection shall serve only for the duration of that meeting and shall possess the same authority and voting privileges of an alternate member while also designated. Is that my time limit?

No.

So the question I have is you have checked this code with Dalton we can do this? With the FBI? It just seems like we're giving some people some latitude to be up there making discussions and all that that have not been appointed. And I just want to make sure that we're not stepping outside the bounds of ordinance or the Utah State Code or something and just bringing someone in and saying, okay, you can be part of this discussion even though you don't have a vote. You know, for example, in city council, And unless we call it out, we can't really have another person contributing to our city council discussions.

And I don't think you could unless they were elected.

So I would check that previous because I love the concept. I love the idea. But I want to make sure we're stepping hand in hand with the ordinance from Utah State.

So what happens in the four years? They're done and then we find somebody else.

Well, they can, or they can choose to keep them there. They can reapply and stay again.

They would have to still reapply, just like ?

Just like we have to go through a process, they have to go through the same process. I do like this. What's that?

Yeah, you are. You can do it for 12 years. Do they have to? It has to be a cut and dry. Yeah, there has to be a cut and dry ask. And then it has to come to city council and it has to be the appointment. So let's make sure that's built into it. Because that's what's got us a little bit in trouble in the past. I think it calls out for that, but we haven't been bringing it to the city council for appointment.

And do we have clarity on the dates currently of our current planning commission and what their terms look like?

We're working on that right now.

Because I'd really love to understand just the impact this ordinance would have on our current council.

And that's one thing I'm going to work with Jeremy and Christine on probably tomorrow or Thursday. So we want the planning commission members to be appointed in January, just like we are in January. It's easier for the recorder. It's easier for everybody. Everybody comes in the same month and out the same month. It's like a revolving door. The one question that we have is, and I'll visit with you guys about when. where the current people are at and when we do that exit. And so, yeah, I'll get into that.

So Dalton review plus kind of more specific.

Yeah, Dalton really needs to review before going further. I agree.

And I think part of this needs to be now each one of those and highlight, okay, this is where their term ends.

See, if you look up here right now, we have our alternates do not have an ending date. When they were voted in, there was no ending date. When I visited with Dalton, he says that is a big issue.

Well, I think it has to be just like our spots. It has to be done. And I've only been here two years, but I think some people are like, well, nobody wanted it, so he just re-upped. I think it's got to be a...

Yes.

And then... That's what we're trying to move.

That's exactly what I appreciate. That's what we're trying to move in that direction.

So thank you, you two. Appreciate it. Okay, so adult review, you want to cut and dry and date, make sure that's clear, and then understand.

And how it will apply to the new ordinance. For example, Rulon, his was up in last year.

So that was my next point, how does it apply to the court members?

Correct, yeah, sorry to interrupt you.

No, no, that was great. We just need to make sure that it's in code first. And then we need to figure out how it applies to these.

And because that transition from where we're at today to there, just make sure there's no liabilities.

Especially if someone's extended or somebody is, because I think I saw some Septembers and Augusts. Yeah, so they'll either be short or extended.

Okay, perfect. Appreciate the feedback. Thank you guys. Thank you.

Good work. Okay, we're done. Good work. Chief, come on up for a sec. I think we had a meeting yesterday with the Utah League of Cities and Towns and the State of Utah. And we preemptively put out an announcement today that we're just going back to the old ordinance that we adopted in June.

That's correct. We worked on an ordinance that I was going to present. gotten that close to being done. I was working on getting it finalized with Dalton yesterday. We were on the crunch time, and then we realized, hey, never mind, we don't have to do anything. We're just going to go back to based on what the state said. Just the two zones, right? Yeah, so radio oil and Malaya River. I would like to leave that, the ordinance that I come up with, to leave that but I just put some language in there that addresses and Blair was able to look at that and kind of give you some input as well but really wanted to just address the state law and show that we're following that and then the goal of that ordinance is to give me the latitude to rather than like we did this year we had an emergency meeting we're making phone calls and gathering everybody It's already in place that everyone knows there are certain criteria that the fire chief is going to use if we do have a ban. Otherwise, we're going to have a set map. We'll always use that map.

And unless there's extreme circumstances due to weather, extreme fire conditions.

And I think in this particular case with the governor's emergency meeting, he gave you and I that power to make that decision without a city council meeting or vote.

and and i read the thing too the only thing i have is when you have a lot of the fire chief has one or the mayor has this is that changes and then it like if you're like me and i'm a firework painter and i'd be a bad fire chief or fireworks and right so you can't you can't have it be so it's really got to come to us because if it's if you do it and ban it we're going to hear about it

okay it's not like it's like I have the final say this is it's made it but I think a lot of times people and just after a lot of the comments ever presented this year people seem to think that that is just said oh they just hate fireworks oh there's those criteria that I'm based in salt the reason we had that meeting was because I just had the hairs we can stand up on the back of my neck looking sporadic and so um yeah i'm not saying that you wouldn't make the right decision no no it might always not always be you next guy yeah so um we'll get that ordinance out to you guys you can take a look at and with this being in place the way that what happened yesterday it's perfect so we're good for the weekend um for for the holiday like a special note that it only pertains to

I was driving when we did that last one, and I was going through the mountains of Montana. And so I came away from that with, did we bandit citywide? And then the comments that I got afterwards, I was like, oh, we must have bandit citywide. We did that for the governor. After the next day. We couldn't do it.

Yeah. Legally, we couldn't know whether we wanted to or not.

I decided that being on the road and participating in these is horrible.

We did throw out the city ordinance and the maps. And it's on the city website. So everyone can see exactly where it is. So if you click on that up there, it will go right into each map. and we're good to go.

So it's the Millad River, it's not 300 East then?

It's not, but my thought was the Millad River is big. Your idea of the Millad River might be down, I'm not saying it is, but it might be down where the actual water is.

Oh no, that's not my idea.

Some other people's idea might be up on the cliff side, right? Correct. So my thought is if we define that by a road, very specific and no one can deny that this is where a boundary is. And so that's what I'd like to come back and change and add to.

So my thought would be 300 East.

Yeah.

Because that those homes are right up next to the black river.

Yeah.

Well, yeah. And go all the way over.

Yeah. And I'm not a firework.

I mean, I'm not a fan of fireworks. Let's just call it space maker.

But if people want to have fun, I think it's great. I'm so tired of picking up firework garbage in my yard. I've had windows shot out of my trailer. I had a house, a window in my house blown out with fireworks.

You're not the little kid that got shot down.

The river bottoms were a pain to put fire out.

They are.

There's not limited access.

That's true. I've never thought of that.

And you just, I mean, for the people in the vehicles, the little bow and that, I mean, you could drive it.

down there on the ground not by long you and then it comes right up and yeah you see these fires it hits a vinyl fence and they just i mean i'm surprised it's hot enough on their vinyl fence right now you're absolutely right and that's that's the point is that year by year the conditions will change and that's why i want to have some kind of parameter that people can say okay well yeah they're justified in canceling fireworks this year because um all those things right we live in the desert right and so i mean you guys have seen it the sun melts siding all the time melts vinyl fences so um in those conditions we can look at it go yeah maybe not i just come from island park and it's been raining and everything and they went into stage two because of the resource there's no resources yeah so and that's another and it's green but but if you have a fire there's not enough people to help but it's

of fire not like you've done yeah yeah well i'm on this i'll just i'll reiterate what i said at the beginning you know there's a cost of freedom there is and sometimes it's that you know if you're going to light fireworks then you got to have a charted water source you got to have you got to have this i i i don't want to get into where we're saying you can't do that we're not going to let you do that we're not going to let you do that i me personally and I might be able I don't know I want to appear and go the other way and in every in everything on on stuff like this on the the way we recruit businesses I want to make us a very easy city to live in work in and to bring your business to and it's kind of a recalibration of where I've been and and I agree and I think the coordinates to go on with what you're saying it holds the citizens

we're being held accountable and also hold them accountable if they're shooting off fireworks and they have to realize it's not a free-for-all. You don't pay for damages that cost other people's property, right?

My wife's dad is a firefighter and every year they were in charge of setting off the fireworks for the city and we were down there on the fourth of July and one of the tubes tipped and they went diving for cover. But they still went, oh yeah. You see everybody else in the stadium every year. I was talking to my partner afterwards, and I'm like, was that scary? He's like, remember, that happens every year. Yeah, exactly. Things like, you know what, and then go. And then the show just goes on.

And everybody was like, you know, it's kind of that.

And it's like, I support Freedom's Got Cost.

you know to go through because you got the river bottom so you got like three months here yeah i think we're going to uh define the boundary exactly my opinion on both sides of it yes all the way out and whatever it is isn't the uh isn't the river technically defined in gis it is where the yes property line will be so that

but but not property only so far but i think we need to in an ordinance that talks about being 500 feet away from river bottoms canyons things like that so uh vegetation so it keeps people away from those areas we can't we can set up a boundary so there's always those conditions will change inside that boundary as well so people again take responsibility something in here about like what constitutes dry vegetation if i got a dry spot in my lawn does that mean i can't light up fireworks

Well, not a spot, but when you have a whole yard. So Chief, you okay if we move on to the next one?

Yes. Wait, go ahead.

I'm going to stand up on you and you're okay. Let's see, remote.

So let me see, do you have folks, do we want to get into the

We've got three different quotes.

One from CMK, construction, home builders.

Yes, it's a remodel for the bathrooms and downstairs out of the new quarters. And then also from Quad K, C and K construction came back with the lowest. So we currently have two showers, one male, one female, for four people. And the goal is to increase staffing over time to accommodate call line, things like that. So if we do that, we're already pretty far behind. really difficult when we have a grass fire things like that for two people that are on the ambulance to come back and shower at once because one's a male one's female uh if they're it's easier you know if there's no if there's a female and a male there they have both an ambulance they can do that um but if you know if there's two males or something like that it just gets difficult so the plan is to increase the showers bathroom toilets, things like that, for the men, four showers, and for the females, two showers, and make a bigger locker room style bathroom, and the same space that we have in the basement where the bathrooms are, and the bedrooms, and to add on an additional bedroom. We have one, so we have five bedrooms right now, we have one more paramedic students things like that in the meantime they can come and stay and be able to sleep in the station as well or we have additional firefighters for things like fireworks and stuff they they didn't stay over here now so six will fit in the basement yes yeah and i sorry i actually gave the thing i gave them the little blueprint of what we had um but we'll we'll obviously take some space we have storage space down there player that's what i'm talking about but we'll take that space and convert it into a man's locker room and shower area then expand the women's shower bathroom over into the current spatial advances so um with that we won't have any showers for i think it was eight weeks and so they included some shower trailers that they would bring out and have on site for us to use in the meantime and that's included in the quote and if it is correct me if i'm wrong jamie How do you have 100 grand? A little bit over. It's 101, so about 101,000 for that whole refund. So that's the lowest quote. And the others are pretty close. 104 and a half.

So this will take approximately eight weeks, so we can plan on about 10 weeks.

there's always a hiccups on whatever things like that unfortunately yeah that's a this is like we're asking for a budget amendment for this yeah where are we going to get that from

You're supposed to look and say, that's what you're trying to do.

She's going, we're out. I'll ask your answer. I have my short answer, but you're out.

Yeah, so the idea was to come forward so they could get going on it, knowing that we would come back with a budget amendment to the council. Their proposal would come out of capital projects, which right now has about 3.1 million budgeted, or not budgeted, but student balance, isn't it?

did we move any money forward from the past we haven't done that yet do you know how much was supposed to do in other words we're supposed to be around 3.5 3.1 and the amendment we had the 1.1 million to be transferred over but i think in reality more like seven seven hundred thousand so we've got to get that three point we got to get down our money at least below the 35 percent and the 700 would take us above that.

The 700 reduces us down to the 35%. Gotcha.

And how's the capital planning going?

We're working on it. We're, he's diving in the fleet right now, talking with all the departments, and so I guess that's what he's saying. So it's coming along slowly, surely.

So I think that's my biggest concern is this is different than the vehicle um funds so this is just the capital projects right but without knowing what all the other future capital projects are coming at us are it's hard to say yes to the current task is all right because next week or in two weeks we might be asked for something else that's just trying to holistically look at the entire budget and not say yes because it's here today and then turn around and not be able to provide a sewer project or something that is required you know website to take care of our fire yeah at the same time i mean it's a it's a situation that you know as you would you want your wife or daughter being in that in that situation and we have the

We have to know right now, and if something comes six months down the road, and we deal with that as it comes. If there's something that we know is on the horizon that we can't bring to public quite yet, that's different, but I think hanging onto that just for the sake of moving on to it, I fully support doing that.

So it's just a discussion, but you still want to go ahead or

nox and then bring it later for it but yeah correct um because as you guys mentioned we say eight weeks probably people like 10 maybe 12 weeks you know before they we say if you say yes then we have to go back and say okay yes to whoever we choose and then they have to put up their calendar and all that stuff so did we get any movement on their two ambulances Oh, yeah, thanks for asking that. We have two people interested, but they're looking, they're wondering what the lowest amount we could pay. They want to pay cash. 50 grand apiece. Yeah, I know. I wish. I so wish. Problem solved. Remodel done. Yeah. But they're one offer of $3,500, so $3,500 for one of them. And the other offeror, I think they run the same, like $30,000 for one of them, the older one.

$30,000? $3,000.

Oh, I was going to say, what are you waiting for?

Okay, $3,000.

So, I mean, we put them on websites to sell old vehicles, old fire trucks and ambulances, police vehicles, things like that, consignment sites. Nothing's happened.

I've looked to try to find vehicles that are the same year and model or make, I guess, like Fords, Chevys. And so I've tried to find them with the same amount of mileage and gear. It's pretty slim to none. Everything is newer that's out for sale. And obviously they're going to get more money in sold. I've talked with a couple of different ambulance companies that we've worked with in the past. And they're like, yeah, you're not going to get much more. I'm looking at maybe six grand at best.

So what about going just a straight up surplus here? I mean, you could make a haul and hay truck out of either one of them. And you can't buy a pickup for $3,500 in a diesel truck. You know what I mean? Like a regular surplus. I mean, a lot of extinguisher companies bought ambulances to go do their service work or whatever. That's where we put them on is like surplus websites. I mean, like a city.

we're going to sell these i don't know do we do that with our vehicles to another city no just put them on my first one the kitchen has one i guess so it's so ridiculous hiram was the first one that made an offer because they didn't actually make an offer yeah they're looking for a free one and so they said we want it but like okay make me an offer and it never happened so there you go but um these are the individuals that made the offers there they are firemen it's like hey i want it they want to make a camper yeah well that's what i'm saying just like that so yeah i think this will read it yeah yeah so i

i want to be clear that what i'm not like what i'm asking or saying is just holistically capital as a whole is our stewardship right i'm not saying that i don't like the project right right so just to be clear so what direction is the project what direction do we want to give chief journal of this discussion i i i i may ask because i think

i i agree with what you say on the thing but i think that's why we want that celestial stuff like this in my opinion i mean if they're going to continue they're going to have i mean there's some laws and reigns about all that too so and if we don't have building in the new building in the near future i think we're obligated yeah or i think we're away the way

So are you okay with us giving them a yes to put together a budget amendment to bring back to you guys for discussion? Yes, I am. Okay. Is that what you're looking for?

Is that what we're looking for? Are we looking for a budget amendment or are we looking for permission to go ahead and start?

We don't know. Does the process require us to have a budget amendment made before you can move forward?

Yes, no, I'm sorry. Okay. So, yes, you would like to have it budgeted, but it doesn't have to be budgeted. It's just that when we come back for the budget amendment, you know that it's there and what it's for. Does that make sense? Because there's already funds that are budgeted, but it was very generic. and so just when we come back and say hey we move these funds from this line item to this line and you know why and you'll do that in the future yeah in the future so it's just so that there's no surprises when that budget amendment hit okay so what direction would you give him folks that you're hoping thumbs up no no well you look like you have a question

Well, I'm still just hung up on the same thing I've been hung up on for three years, which is two years is overall capital. I cannot make decisions today without knowing where we're headed with full surety. So that's the hesitation. Because tomorrow we're going to be met with things that we have to say no to. Right. And we did it for this. And I think it's a great thing. But that's the only hesitation.

Oh, okay.

I just wanted to make sure. So, no, thank you. I appreciate you asking. But that's it, we just have to be stewards of that capital. I'm not on the phone.

I know there's probably a need. But what's going to get us strong? What capital projects are we going to do? I mean, we can't just start going like this.

We have to- But it is really dynamic. The two years I've been here, the priorities go. So it's dynamic. it's hard to get in that way in the whole in the perfect world have all that out there because all of a sudden something happens we don't we only need three of these that we needed for whatever and just investing 100 grand into that building now give us more time and actually solve some of our capital problem for the future you know but are we going to put 100 grand into the building

and then turn around say no we have to have a new facility we've outgrown this there's absolutely no way that 100 grand goes into garbage basically no I totally understand I know I might may be biased because I'm over there right and I and I'm fighting for my guys to have the things they need yeah but I absolutely understand that and that's why I want to build as many bathroom spaces as we can shower stalls that we can as many rooms as we can so we can be able to house the future of the fire department not just the four we have now we want to grow and so we need to have the proper rooms shower facilities things like that to be able to handle that and so that's that's my whole goal and you know if you can sit back and talk about my goal to expand further beyond that but um yeah i realized i realized a new building is like even starting to break ground it's like 10 years down the road but we're way way from that so i realized that that's why i'm talking about this that's why we want to do this um it's because this is uh so to speak the band-aid until we can get to it we had three council people saying i think and we have some concerns and they're not yes or no but just some concerns so i would say that they can just move forward

If in general you're saying it's so that we can be in that building for longer, then I'm all over, yes, supporting that.

My next topic might help you with some of those concerns. Fire billing is something that we discussed doing. The council seemed like they were like, yeah, it is. on a normal basis, extrication of vehicles, you know, traffic accident cleanup, things like that. We call it a wash down and oil, things like that. So we're going to move forward with it. There is a reason to contract. I had a question that I had for you guys. On one of the pages, it talks about billing for fire recovery for a structure fire. So a structure fire happens in a home. They go out and they're their limit would be $500 for a structure in a home. So it was practically the only home. And then that money comes from the insurance company. And I don't know why it's set up this way, but I looked at a couple different insurance contracts for people's homeowners insurance. And it says that the money, it's $500 that they will send to the homeowner that then the homeowner is supposed to turn around. And when we bill for that, they're supposed to give their pay for that cost, that $500 with that check. Does that make sense? So the homeowner is given 500 bucks by the insurance company when there's a structure fire, and then they're supposed to pay that to the city. so i just wanted to make sure that we were all okay with that um before i signed that and followed through with that number a commercial structure that policy would be a five thousand dollars and again they would be cut a check from their insurance company and then we would recuperate that cost so um but if we were to do that ourselves would we recover the 500 and the 5000 We would have to, we would have to be billing, we'd have to do the same thing everywhere, basically bill the individual homeowner. This company, again, would be billing the insurance companies as well, and it's for citizens in Tremont. they wouldn't go any further than the $500 for a private residence or the $5,000, just like we would, right? They wouldn't take into questions for anything beyond that. And so let's say I get my $500 check and I'm like, sweet, I got $500. I'm going to go spend it. I don't know why I got it, but I'm going to spend it. So I go and I spend it. Then I get the bill from Fire Recovery. I'm like, what's this for? And I realized later that that was to pay

that $500 came from the insurance company to pay fire recovery for the service that was provided. And that would be a case where fire recovery would say, okay, you have 90 days to pay it.

If you don't pay it, they give you another 60 days or whatever. If you don't pay it still, then they would send them to collections. So I wanted to be full disclosure that you're aware of that before I sign. So will fire recovery just bill the insurance and bypass? Otherwise, they will bill the insurance. In this case, they can't. And that's what we talked about before. We wouldn't bill our residents for anything because we only want to bill the insurance. In this case, it's not like car insurance. It's written into their policy that the homeowner would be written a check. And so the only way for them to recover that or us to recover that is to bill the homeowner. It's just like if we were, when they take an ambulance ride, we go, they take an ambulance ride and we bill the insurance so far. And then once we get to that point, they have to pay their 20%, and we would bill them for that.

So this is a contract for someone else to do that billing? Yes. And what do we pay them?

They take a percentage of that, which is 22%.

Okay, so we used to do that billing here in the office. So can we still not do that? I mean, I think they can still do that. You just have to give them the information like we used to, and we can send out the bills. Right. And we don't have to pay that 20%.

Yeah, and we could. I mean, my only concern is that it might get lost along the way. How would it get lost? I don't know. It seems like we were doing it. I know when I started here years ago, we were doing it. And then we stopped doing it. When that last chief came in, he stopped doing it. Brady just said we're not doing it anymore.

But we did it before when all the rest of them were here. He did it for everything, everything he could.

And then as soon as Brady came in, it was, I don't think we can do that. We're not going to do that anymore.

Okay. I mean, the other part is that we're, we're re-billing insurance companies and going through insurance companies for the cleanup and things like that.

Yes. If we had the information we were, if not, we would send it to, because we were billing cities too. If it was like in Elwood, we'd bill Elwood. Okay.

And this is,

Did you ever talk to LaCroix about this, the billing?

No, I didn't. I didn't realize. As I said, we were doing it when that came on with LaCroix, and I didn't realize it would break it up and stop.

We didn't send the cities bills, so we lost a whole year of accounting and everything.

Right, and they would do all that. These guys would do our rodeo standby. They would do all that stuff, and so it would be not as necessarily paying them they were just skimming off the top so to speak that we still wouldn't get paid in the fall right so that's what i saw i saw that we weren't doing those things so you're giving this other company the same exact information that

we could give in-house and in-house could do this because they weren't doing it before and we're not going to lose 22 of the funds coming in doing it in-house to me it doesn't make an ounce of sense to send it to somebody else that we have no control over we have nothing to do with when we have capable people right here in our own city that will do this and we're doing it we're doing it yes we're doing it who's going to do it and

Is there a process in place?

There is a process in place. I've talked to some people.

You would have to get it to the city.

And then they have the paperwork.

No, but it's okay.

You get it.

The fact of the matter with this is our reporting system that we have, we finished the report as soon as we could submit. This information goes to the state for the calls that we run. They know that we ran a call. So if you run three calls, they know that, right? Whether it's medical or fire calls. And then the information goes directly to them as well. And that's why I'm asking if there are processes in place to get that information here. Are we walking the paperwork over to you guys? Because if we do calls over the weekend, first thing in the morning, we've already clicked that button. Friday night at 2 a.m., Saturday morning at 3 a.m., it's automatically there. And it's got to go to you to bring it over.

Why can't they bring it over to the city office or a we have technology now computer button and send that information to our ladies are in the office they did it before I trust you I think that's what and we're not losing 22% that's revenue I would think they do probably get things

But here would be a little bit less. You know, where they do it every day, but still.

And that's probably what the charge everywhere.

Yeah. But let's not drop this.

Let's get this going. We've lost, I think, just this year, we've lost, I'm trying to remember the number.

It was like $25,000.

Yeah, it was $27,000 altogether. they charge $2,000 out of $27,000. $2,000 out of $27,000. So we made $25,000, they made $2,000. And that was, I think it was $40,000, what it was that we had that were just traffic accident related calls that we could have billed for.

And the average cost of that was like $2,600.

That there pays for your month. Yeah. It does if we keep it in house.

on that's my only concern is that these guys are in place they're going they're ready are we going to get bogged down doing other things in the city i think we need to give our ladies a try okay i i i think it'd be boring you're you've had the ball more than this right if they just get it they'll do theirs i mean that's the way they did before and but it's it's more of a job for

you and your guy your officers and people are going to need to turn in the information you're going to make sure you have to make sure it gets here if they drop something then there might be some which is probably a meeting between the two yeah that's what they're going to say we need to meet with for the process we're going to have to do that so um so we can have the process and that's why i said my biggest concern is the ball going to get dropped whether it be on our end or the other end where now we just we click a button and it's gone if we can set something up that's you know they have a way to it'll be great to go into your to the same thing you have they should they should be out of our freedom what's your what's your i can't remember your software yeah image trend yeah so

The city should be able to get into it, right? All they would need was the fire part. They could code it. If they said it was a fire or a hazmat. And they don't need to worry about the animals.

So for the next two weeks, we work on that idea of getting the data, work with the front office and the treasurers and all those that collect money, and see if we can get something set up and it will work. And then we'll have the discussion again.

And I think we can go back to July 1st, can't we? Start the billing from then. I would assume so, yeah. Because all that information is in there, you just have to get it.

I think it needs to stay in-house.

Okay. Okay. Thank you, Chief. Thanks for all you do. Okay, the next one shouldn't take too long. It's a generative AI policy. I've been working on this for a while now. And I do. All this policy states is it gives this any contractor that works with us city council any employee that works for the city direction on how they can use ai okay and and you and it has very specific language in it about what you can and can't put in it because what you put in is going out to the world and so you can't be putting private information it has all that built into it this is all built around Utah state code. It's been vetted with Dalton. And we've created an employee handbook that each employee can therefore go through and look and it even has circumstances and it will say, okay, I can do this, but I can't do this. And most importantly, what's built into this is what I call the human touch. Nothing can go out of AI unless it's been read or touched by the person that is working on it. So I can't say put this together and send it to Bo. I have to read it. I have to validate it. I'm responsible for that data that's going out. And so that's what this policy is all about. So this policy is going out so we can finally start to use AI in our city. And we put a date on it, August 15th, because Dalton wants a little bit of time to go through and validate all of the language in the handbook to make sure. And something to do with procurement. Lindsay? Yeah, I think it has something to do with the language of contractors or people that work for us and use AI, what restrictions they're held to. And he wanted to make sure there was a little bit better language in that. So that's what this is. It's an opportunity for us And this all, you know what, this all stemmed from our meetings in St. George. So all this comes from what they asked us to do. Any questions?

I mean, just in general, without going into all of the, you know, the details of what was there, because I think it's really well done. Just if it's, generally speaking, if it's an online public document already, you can upload those documents and ask questions. Right? It's not going to, you know, preparing for city council meeting and having it give you liability questions or anything. There's nothing wrong with that. Or reviewing code, right? It's already a public document. And those types of things, I mean, we should be using it to speed ourselves up because it can gather content so fast.

I used it for the projectiles thing that started the same year. the resolution template.

And that's the fun thing, is we can drop in, and once we get the city up and running, we can put in resolution ordinance templates. And then you can say, okay, create an ordinance using our Tremonton City standard. There it is now.

Yeah, I found that when I say, I want it based on this, from this vantage point, and include this, consider state law, federal law, and all that stuff. I read it and I was like, oh, we all look very balanced. And then kind of went through and said, no, that's all right.

That was great.

Okay. So that's what that is. The last subject before we move on is we're getting there, you guys. I know everyone's so excited. Well, no one's more excited about this than I am. Been going on for a long time. Can you bring, oh there it is, and it's way too. Control plus. And just so you know, the left side of this is a. Control plus. All right, good. So what we have here is our Tremonton keep the people keep I keep saying well we have these overarching strategies we want to give them like we need a name so I called it the connection plan if you guys want a different name call it out but I thought this just matches everything we're doing okay so the connection plan it has our mission our vision and our roles the mayor and the council is the set direction city manager and staff are to carry it forward and the citizens are are to give true input. That puts all of this on a horizontal relationship so we're all working together. We've talked for four weeks now, or four times now, on different things that we can do on each one of these pillars. What I want to do now is pick one or two from each pillar. For the next, we have 20 minutes or so. and then we will build our final document off of that okay this is to give the staff some direction in how to work into the future for the next year at least and so i'm excited about it so connected to the goodbye okay here here's the challenges we heard a few of entities and uh recommended concerns for youth and young adults preserving small town identity loss of agricultural way of life aging and neglected park system outcomes were after year-round places to gather play and belong facilities and public spaces that keep pace with growth and beautification that builds shared pride gateways downtown parks neighborhoods over on the side are some candidates or some goals that we can work on in your opinion which one two or three of these are the most important Adopt a citizen-centric generic plan for 2026. Of course that's mine. And sustain and grow our signature connection events. Multiple sport recreation complex. Bring the parks system back to standard. Launch neighborhood connection programs. A downtown city-wide beautification push.

Honor our veterans, especially those last two.

So your item and update for the first one. Okay. If you don't mind, we just got our scope of work approved by UDOT, and I'm putting out RFPs hopefully by tomorrow. And then they have until August 21st to turn in an RFP. I've got the deadline. And then U Council will be getting the RFPs, and you will be the ones that will be selecting the firm that will be Generate a general plan.

So I can use this as an example. Let's say, for instance, we say we want this one and just these three, okay? All right, now, and I'm not saying that's what we're doing, but I'm just saying if we select those three, now we're going to go back to the city employees and say, as a city council, here's where we want to be in a year from now. We'll set some goals and we'll give it to them, and each department goes after that. and it gives them some direction. So planning, we'll go through and make sure that that plan is up to date. They'll use parks, they'll use finance, they'll use all the different departments to make sure that plan is brought together. A downtown citywide beautification push, our Main Street Committee going, think of how many departments that touches, okay? And then honoring our veterans, okay? How many departments does that touch? We'll ask each department then to go and set some goals to push forward on all three of those. That's the plan. And now, instead of all of these things that they can be doing, we have some clear direction. This is what the city would like to see us do over the next year.

Does this make it a little clearer? I think something that excites me, and I don't want to complicate this conversation at all, but I think there's a lot going on in all of these, which is phenomenal. As we're looking at prioritization, I think really what you're saying is just really make sure we're pushing on those. I'm just thinking through the Main Street Committee that's already meeting. There's committees forming and it's happening. There's already... RFP, yeah, you know what I mean? So that's awesome. And the community events that are happening already, I think will continue in motion. Mugs and Bananas and summer concerts and heydays, I don't think we have any anticipation of stopping those. And we can put four on here.

So two guys. Like the veterans thing, obviously we need to do that, but it's not a big stretch. know we we already have the park that's that's pretty nice the new mural ads do it uh you do the veterans thing maybe the school deal is that but it's probably the veterans that we could coordinate that with the them today i'm with you we're going to be doing all these anyway yeah but which ones do we want to give the staff the okay guys you got the green light go for it

I think we need to at least do a feasibility on that complex. I mean, I look at how much, and I know it's got a big upfront price tag, but man, the cities that are doing it, you wanna talk about keeping property taxes low or non-existent, we've gotta bring revenue in. The more revenue that we can bring in from the outside,

i mean i tell me a citizen we wouldn't want to see their property taxes go away you know or at least they said it's cool for a while yeah i don't know if he's ever there but at least it puts the ball in the court to start the dialogue yeah and i won't push any faster we have to but if we keep dragging this on it'll be next year before we get this done so um i think the number the first one is of drives it all over everywhere anyway don't we have to have that that's a big one yeah that's a must yeah and i really like the main street thing i think that that thing's gonna that's going to do a lot for us over the next few years though and that is well and funding drives a lot of these decisions and the funding is sitting in the account ready to spend on main street it's available so i would ask you out of those two there's four more from there the veterans We're not saying the veterans, we're not honoring them because we do. And I think we do a wonderful job of that.

I do too.

And so the last thing I want is to go out of this meeting and say, well, they don't honor the veterans. We do, we love our vets and we love our service people. But launching a program, put the effort into the feasibility study or sustained growth. connecting events or bring parks back to standard. I think that was pretty well done with your parks plan, and I think that's going to melt into the first one, don't you?

That'll set the standard for the future, and then it's up to council. I mean, how we spend the funds. But as we go over it, it's still going to be up to council on what's the priority of council. Is it going to be this or this or this? the more priorities we have, the funds are spread over that many more priorities. So that's just a sort of caution as we move forward with too many.

So you good with these two or you want to add any more? What do you say?

Well, I feel like one of the sports things needs to be in there. I mean, the North Park and the JDCMS Park, the lights are not working. When I was out there watching the game the other day and we had to move to another park because the lights weren't working. I feel like that's an important thing that we need to get taken care of.

i think what's frustrating with me in the park is we sit and you allude to it all things like where your priorities are our priorities are there but the the bigger priorities take all the money you know what i mean and that's what's hard it is well really under this i mean it's the it's the citizens that are going to drive the priorities

And what's been fun is the citizens have your because we've had, we're going on a year and a half, almost two years of meetings on this. I think downtown, I'm frustrated.

I think we need to get on the gas with that. All right. It's coming. Yeah, big time. She has a plan.

It's nice. And I think to each other.

Challenges are intolerance and social division, low civic engagement and education, transparency deficit, distrust when data isn't shared. I'm going to tell my story because I told you today. I was watching a show and this commentator said, when you start to tell secrets in the government, you have conspiracy. So why not just throw everything out there and there's no conspiracies? That to me is the answer. We're gonna throw it all out there. It's being transparent. Yeah, except close session. We'll make sure we stay focused on that. The social toxicity and science on the good local social media, preserving small town identity. That's coming from two of them now. A modern city website on the digital front door. Release today. Any citizen can get on our website and go to it and start playing with it. I'll talk about it more later. I'm so excited about that one. High dignity communication. Everything we should do should be on a level six, seven dignity scale. As employees, as people with each other, and as citizens, we should all be treating each other well. a deliberate posture of celebrating and sharing the good, growth guided by a current adopted comprehensive plan. We've kind of picked that up in the first one. So here's the, let's pick two of these. Launch a public transparency dashboard for 2026.

You know what, if we were to connect to that citizenportal.ai and just have a tab there, that would, That's the old portal. They'll do the work for us.

Yeah, for sure. Stand up a resident communication platform by 2027. Honestly, the new website we're rolling out has a communication platform built in. Make the Dignity Index how we operate.

That's important.

Share the good campaign. Build trust with our Latin community and I'd say with all of our communities. And regular town halls with real notice. And yeah, and that's a good point. We need to get another town hall going for sure.

Do you know, I thought about this, and I thought about Zach when I read this. We have some neighbors that are of a different nationality. They're great people, don't get me wrong. But they don't feel connected. And when I was reading this, I thought, oh, Zach, a cultural event. where they can bring their own cultures and their food, and it doesn't have to be just one culture at a time, but a cultural event. I don't know. This is your ballpark. I'm just saying, after talking to them this weekend, I don't feel connected. I don't feel like they make us food, and it's really, really good. There's already talks.

We had a fundraiser over the weekend, and there's already starting a plan for March.

Awesome. My arms, look at that. We had the coolest support from this community over the weekend. Good.

It was just something they said to me and I thought, you know, thanks, Zach.

So what would you say on these? I think launching the transparency dashboard is a high priority. I do too. The stand-up resident communication platform, I don't think we can check that because it's done. So it will become part of it. The Dignity Index, I think that's vital. I think that's an important one. It's a good campaign to build trust with our other communities and regular town halls. I like that one too. Which one of those would you choose as a priority for the year?

I personally would launch a Share the Good campaign. You get what you focus on.

What, Timmy?

Share the Good. The focusing on, you get what you focus on, you know, and the more people are thinking about and looking for the good, the better off the community becomes. And I think what starts here and here translates out results in every other aspect. And so that would be my hope.

Let's put that in there too, Dan. I think this really, really great. Are you, are you two okay with that?

That's good.

Okay.

i mean i do feel like the dignity is really important too but i think we're good with those three and we'll keep pushing that yeah yeah that's really that's really important can i just tell you that uh in talking to the the owner of that citizen portal we would be the first city council in the country to post to put a link to that yeah we'll do that we'll look at it

Okay, let's see if we can get through this last one, and then maybe, excuse me, this third one, then we'll take a few minutes on the last one.

No, I said then we'll just take a break.

Okay, pillar three, safety, stability, family security, challenges we heard, aging facilities, domestic violence, bullying, and youth safety, scaling safety with growth, limited economic development, workforce development gap. fire police capabilities that stays ahead of growth. A multi-year plan for scaling safety with population and risk. Peace at the neighborhood level, trust with public safety, neighbors who know and care for neighbors, and economic diversification. So some of them we have here is a deliberate economic development strategy recruit. So we have that, a multi-year, Public safety scaling plan that staffing shifts and equipment that keep PD fire and EMS ahead of population growth instead of always behind it. Make our public buildings look more like we mean business. Give used construction outlets to cut vandalism. Keep critical infrastructure ahead of growth and close workforce gaps.

I can check everyone else.

When you talk about the public buildings looking like we mean it, when we did the walk around with Main Street, the two ladies that I started walking with, as we started, she stopped me and she says- From the state, right? Yes, from the state. She says, so what would you do with that building right there? And it's talking about the Civic Center. I said, well, if we have the money, we'd like to build a new one. She says, don't you dare. there's character, this is your heritage. She goes, there's changes you can make. And I says, well, the next option we have is maybe we just paint it. Boy, I was shut down so fast. That's so quick. And they says, before you do anything, you better call us first and we will help you make that look better. So, hey, if you want to do anything.

They have resources. Well, on their knowledge.

There are grants we can give. And she says, there's grants we can give.

But I really think that public building part of that here can fall into the Main Street.

Oh, absolutely. And that's what she was talking about, tying it all in with Main Street.

So do you guys, I think the economic development strategy is vital. Yes. Okay. A multi-year safety scaling plan, that one. Yes. Yeah, because it impacts so much of our budget. And the second one, I think, i'll put that down i think it's going to be lumped in with the main street one from earlier yeah yeah and then one of the other things that they they mentioned was that um i've heard from a lot of people uh we need to give our kids some things to do when they're downtown so that you know and so we'll have that talk on that and see where we have to go All right, well, we have a few more minutes, so let's see if we can get through this last one. That really took us two minutes.

I won't say a word.

Connected to positive well-being, high mental needs, high mental health needs, substance abuse epidemic, small and fragile economic base, water supply and sustainability, fiscal capacity and constraints. Outcomes would be meaningful access to mental health, tracking lived physical, mental, and social well-being over time, fiscal transparency for the residents that they can act on, fund capital facilities plan with consistent capital savings. That's a good one. Of these, build a real financial plan for the city, finish the utility rate studies and asset appreciation schedules, land the trails funding, open the books before the hard asked questions, meaningful access to mental health and the same order and the last one is secure our water future I think the 3d got flagged and the water future I know I'm all for number two what's up utility rate studies coming yeah working on it right now and we got a financial plan and I know we do

I do think there is so much that we need to help with the mental health and substance and support in this, not just our community, but everywhere around. It's a sad thing that they're going through right now. And it's pressure that's being put on families. And I think, yeah, that's an important one. There's a bunch of them.

You can almost check every single one. And the water thing.

You know, they're watching it really close, but I think we could check every one of them. I don't know how you're going to pick one, so you go ahead and do it.

Okay, well, thank you. Let's take a break. I will put together a final plan for our next meeting for you guys to look at and approve, and I will try to put some what we call smart goals with these, okay, saying, okay, this is where we want to see it, yeah. And then when I say that, all I'm saying is I'll put the numbers you guys have in front of you.

Thank you.

Hold on. Yeah.

Thank you for coming.

first and then when I read your e-mail, yeah. I'm like, oh crap. It's like I'm looking at one dashboard and I already picked one. It's not what everyone wants. I just look at them and I'm like, that shouldn't be here.

We've got it corrected on the packet.

That's all. Yeah, because I thought you were just talking about fencing. We should have just automatically go to the next city council meeting. And I was like, well, we need to talk about that. I don't understand that. Right. The fencing was right in the middle of that. Yeah. Yeah, like I said, it might be on there. That wasn't the case with my sabre board. It was just the orthophones that dropped.

Our suite set up here.

I don't know if he was thinking without me.

Yeah.

No, I... One second.

Let's just start it.

That's all I want to say.

Well, I thought we looked at the system of the agenda, but why are we here? And that's what's going on in all the pop-up systems.

Thank you.

That was two days, three days, a week ago.

That's true.

And I'm like, that's not much, of course, to take a look at.

So, anyway, I have comments on all your comments. I mean, we should consider that website.

Okay.

You got them?

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We're going to get started as soon as Councilman

Louis and the council person.

Appreciate everyone coming out to our city council meeting. Call to order.

Is that me?

Thank you.

We're calling for the meeting to order.

yes yes yes yes yes thank you okay I'd like to welcome everyone out tonight we are going to start off by having an invocation and I met Pastor Grande at the little event they had this last Saturday little big It was nice to meet him and I've asked Councilman Lewis to introduce him and talk a little bit about that event for just a second.

Yeah, Eusebio Granda is a good friend and we're grateful to have him in the community Their church is the one that actually burnt down there at Rumkeller Tire or next door. The community rallied in a big way on Saturday and there was large attendance. It was supposed to go until 1 or something. It was still going at like 5.30. We were still cleaning up. It's just really neat to see the community. We appreciate you and hope you feel loved and You know, this community cares a lot about you guys, so.

So we've invited the pastor to do our opening prayer, and then Councilperson Oyler will lead us in the pledge. Go ahead, you can come right up here to the podium.

First of all, I want to say thank you for the invitation. Thank you for giving the opportunity to be here today. My English is not so good, but I promise next time if you guys give me another time, I'm going to say it in English. I got a problem to translate my Espanol to my English, but I'm going to do it in Spanish today. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Gracias, Señor. En esta tarde te damos por este momento de estar juntos en este lugar, Señor. Te agradecemos, Padre bendito, por la oportunidad de conocer tantas personas, Señor, y que ellos tienen un sentimiento bueno acerca de nosotros, Padre bendito. Yo te ruego misericordia por cada uno de los que están en este cuarto y que todo lo que se vaya a llevar a cabo en este lugar sea con el propósito, Señor, primeramente, de alabarte a ti, de darte las gracias y estar unidos como comunidad. Yo te alabo y yo te bendigo en esta hora y te doy gracias. Gracias Padre, gracias Hijo y gracias Espíritu Santo de Dios. Amén y Amén. Thank you.

Thank you. And we'll go ahead and excuse them. They're going to another event. The reason we moved this to 6 o'clock tonight is because there is a multicultural event celebration for 250 years of the

United States over at the fairgrounds and so anyone and everyone's encouraged to go to that go ahead I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for

Thank you. I'd entertain an approval of the agenda. We can, as part of that, I believe we can drop discussion letter E on the fireworks. That's something that we will not need to discuss. I'll make a motion with that. Okay, we have a motion by Councilman Jax and second by Councilman Westergaard. All in favor, if you would say yes. Any opposed, say no. Thank you. Okay. We have a years of service award. Do we have any declaration of conflict of interest? Okay, with that, let's go on to a really good part of Years of Service Award for, is it Tyona?

Tyona. Tyona.

Tyona.

Yes.

Okay, Tyona Price, five years with the fire department. Come on, come on up.

It's okay, my daughter's name is Kiana and she gets called Kiona. I understand, I get it. So this is Tiana Price. She is very awesome. So Tiana started working as an EMT at the age of 16. She was hooked from the beginning. And so she, in the past five years when Tiana started with us, she came in with no certifications. She was a true volunteer, came in, learned, grew, whatever you might remember when she started. She since, in those five years, has gotten her EMT basic, right? She started with advanced. So I had my advanced. She had her advanced, and since then has got her fire one and two certifications, hazmat certifications, and is now a part-time firefighter with us, and has gone through nursing school, and is now a nurse, and also has started going through the bridge program to be a paramedic. So Tiana is a great asset to our community and our department. We're extremely grateful for her. There's a couple questions we asked her about herself to kind of get a little bit of a personal feel for her. Oh, and before I do that, she has two awesome little boys and an amazing husband that supports her in doing this job and being a part of this department. We want to thank them for all that they do and allowing us to have her when she's here with us. And she has her sister here as well. And so some of the questions that we asked her was, What places have you lived? So she's lived here in Utah and in Idaho. And then what genre of music is on your most listened to playlist? And she says it depends on her mood. And I'm right there with you. I think most of us are. And then what is the first thing you would buy if you won a lottery? She says she wouldn't. She would invest. And so Tiana has, like I said, she's very sharp. And we appreciate having you here, Tiana. Okay, now it's the citizen engagement portion.

This is when the general public can come up and give any comments. we would ask you to keep your comments do not comment anything on the strategic business because you will get the opportunity later to do so so this would give you an opportunity to talk about anything to do with anything in the city you get three minutes we ask you to follow the dignity scale and treat everyone with the same reason with a high level of respect as we expect to treat you so with that in mind will you get three minutes at a time so we didn't have anyone on the list when i looked out there so anyone is welcome to come up and share your comments okay seeing none we will move on to the next portion of our business we we didn't really have any unfinished business from workshop that's like the first in a while at least while i've been here i think you guys might have accomplished the last thing but we started at four yeah so um but we got some good things i felt really good about our our workshop thank you everyone for making this such a great experience here on our tremont city council Consent agenda. Any council person may request an item be removed for separate discussion. So we'll have the approval of the minutes of July 7th, 2026, approval of resolution number 2646, that's the agreement for bailiff services, and approval of resolution number 2647, degenerative AI policy I make a motion we approve the consent I'll second okay we have an approval by council person Westergaard and a second by council person Lewis Let's have a roll call vote. And let's start right here with you.

Yes. Oh, you do that. You can.

No, no, no. Yes.

Yes. Yes.

That's what happens when you miss one time. But I did listen to all of you guys.

I was like, no, we kind of got too screwy.

It's all right.

This is the strategic business portion of our meeting. What we'll do here is we'll bring up the ordinance or the discussion item. We'll have a little bit of a discussion on it. All of these items have been discussed in the previous meeting. And then we will open it up for the public to come up. They can have up to three minutes each to talk and discuss with the city council anything to do with that specific subject. So we're going to start out with Letter A, Discussion and Consideration of Adopting Ordinance 2611, Discharge of Prep Projectiles by Councilman Jax. Do any of you have any further concerns, any further discussion on this item that was brought up? Okay, public, would you like, is there anyone from the public that would like to admit?

My name is Lane Wilding. I do have a couple of comments I'd like to make relative to this proposed ordinance. I am a little concerned in that As a member of the public, the first I saw this showed up on the agenda, trying to find a copy of it so that I could review it and actually think about what you're proposing was a bit of a challenge. I've highlighted here in this document the red items or things that I would like to briefly discuss. The first one is we talk about a discharge of a projectile, discharge by the dictionary says to release, send forth, or to allow something to escape. uh under the first item there you talk about this new ordinance is going to apply to private property there's no mention about the public property parks areas and so on in the old ordinance it said truth within the tremont city limits do you want to reconsider that and say do we want to put this to the whole tremont city limits if it's only on my private property that means i can technically go to the park with my bow and my arrow or my db gun Just a different interpretation of that particular requirement. So I would like you to think about is that, and do you want to consider public property in this ordinance, or is it just going to be strictly private property? The next item is individuals under the age of 16. So it'll be interesting to see who's going to verify and how you're going to verify and track that. How's that going to be forced? The owner of the property, since the ordinance only applies to private property, if I or one of my kids or one of the neighbor's kids go out onto the public park and do damage, is that going to, who's going to be liable for that and repair that? Obviously, if it's in my property, I'd be responsible, but now I'm on a private park and we don't have this ordinance not covering public parks. Do we care about that?

Would be a question.

doesn't it say private property it doesn't say private property but the old the public property i mean i'm just asking no no i have no idea i'm not a lawyer i'm just saying from my perspective the old ordinance said within the city limits of tremont which would include both private and public properties okay that's all i'm just saying is

you've now restricted this just to private property it does no mention about public property so i don't know for sure how that's going to be handled well let me let me address that this ordinance is designed to give private property owners the right to discharge something on their own property agree it does not give anybody the right to do that in a public park on main street in a roadway anything like that specifically yes it does do we need to say any anywhere in there um and does not apply to public property or or that's we can i i don't have any artwork the one way or the other i wrote it for private property and i think it's defined as private property if it's not private property then this does not apply so that's but And some good catches, thank you.

Okay, that's, like I said, I just, I read it and this was my thought process, so I want you to understand that. Things that are not going to cause a noise that your neighbors are going to hear really bothers me because most everything we do will cause a noise that will go across my property boundary into my neighbor's property boundary. And we have that now listed as part of this ordinance. that noise from the discharge must not be audible beyond the property line. I'm not sure how you're ever going to satisfy that requirement. And I would suggest that maybe that ought to be strictly taken out of that. Projectiles that might be used would be shooting fireworks off. That's a projectile. My three minutes are up.

Mayor, can I have extended period of time? Yeah. That in itself is covered under the ordinance on the fireworks. And those fireworks cannot be launched anytime except during the period the ordinance allows for. So I think we're okay on that. Good catch on that though, but you cannot shoot off fireworks any other time.

I have an air cannon that I like to launch candy up in the air for my kids and grandkids to go collect. We like to break open the light sticks and put them in the air cannon at night and shoot those up. And that's great because you get all these light sticks coming out. Kids love that. They'll go around and pick them up. But again, it makes noise that will violate this criteria. Well, right now, you can't do that. But I understand right now I can't. And now we're coming up with a new criteria, a new ordinance. I'm trying to give you the right to do that. understand it but i'm saying that cannon makes more noise and will go across the boundary into my neighbor's yard and that item b says noise from the discharge must not be audible beyond the property line i'm going to say right now i'm going to violate that criteria as long as your neighbors don't care we don't care anything that's the point and the point of it is that you have the you have the rights on your property

you don't have the right to force your neighbor to listen to your rights you know yeah your noise and if i want to if after 10 p.m if i don't want it if i don't want the neighbor's music disturbing my sleep i have to i mean that's why we have noise ordinances on on stuff like that enjoyed seeing all that come down and they recruit some of that candy and stuff like that. And then it's not an issue.

That's great. Like I say, my reading this was to look at it from a different perspective and say, would these be potential problems? So I appreciate the ordinance and the change. I really do. I got DB guns. I got grand boys, grandsons that like to shoot DB guns. I have an atlatl and a dart, which is a primitive weapon for using throwing spears. uh and the school is a cool thing activity so there are a lot of things that i put down here things that i like to personally do but that noise to my neighbor is the problem and i can't control that that noise won't go forward i can't do anything i can't do any of those activities i understand we're easing up understand so hopefully my neighbors won't complain but that was my comments thank you thank you yes

Those were great, and thanks for taking the time to do that. Now, he does have an interesting question here that I thought about, very last one. However, the owner is not restricted only to the above item.

Would an air gun be considered, is an air gun, it doesn't make noise, does it? It's the same classification as .

Some of the newer ones can be loud.

If it's not listed as a firearm, and if we all of a sudden see this surge in something, we can come back and readdress it. air guns just contain gear bulk and .

Yeah, I just noticed on KSL there is a national competition, international competition going on with high-powered air guns. It actually is really – some of those guns are like $4,000 or $5,000 a piece, and these guys take it really seriously.

All right. Well, thank you. Thank you. That's awesome. Any discussion – any further discussion on this? Appreciate it. Okay, then I would entertain a motion on this particular ordinance. I make a motion that we approve ordinance 2611, discharge of project pass. I second. Okay, we have a motion by Councilman Lewis and a second by Councilman Westergaard. Go ahead.

Councilmember Lewis? Yes. Councilmember Dix? Yes. Councilmember Bubba? Yes.

Councilmember Oyelke? Yes. Councilmember Westergaard?

Yes. And the next one is Ordinance 2612, Parks, Trails, and Open Space Master Plan. Had a great discussion on this. A lot of work has gone into this. Do you guys have any more questions for our community development group on this?

No, I think they were really good. So we are approving this, so what, like, do they start on this?

What it does is it approves the plan. the vision and so then the vision goes it will actually become part of the comprehensive planning will become one of the chapters but and we really have to go through and identify every chapter and pass those off but this so this we're adding the chapter to our book okay so it comes down to any public comment on the parks I won't be long on this one

leg welding um just a couple quick comments on this one i read the entire plan believe it or not and had a lot of comments a lot of questions and found certain typos and things like that i believe have all been corrected and updated and i appreciate that I am concerned about their growth projections in the plan. Their current growth projections are that there will be less than 3% population growth between now and 2050, which I think is way underestimated. So I expected this plan to revise. I am a little concerned in that we still have the plan out there, the 23-083. There is no statement in this document that says that this plan supersedes that one. And so I don't know how you deal with having two plans now that are on the books that you got to be able to work with. Is that one a parks plan as well? It is. Okay. That's where this parks plan came from that one. Okay. And that is section three and appendix D and appendix E of that plan. is basically the old parks plan and now this is the new parks plan. But again, we have nothing in this plan that says this one is superseding that one. So now you have two on books. The other one I am concerned about in the staff recommendation, they recommend that this will be updated every five years. And based off of the current past of where we're talking about the Tremont General Plan, which was last updated in 2002, And that plan says specifically that it will be updated every 10 years. My question is, who's going to track it and who's going to be responsible? And how are we going to be sure that it gets done, that in five years from now, that this plan will be revised and we won't be doing like we're doing with the general plan, we'll be able to cover maybe 25 years to get it updated.

Valid questions. Those are my comments, thank you. The new comprehensive plan will actually address that with dates on every one of those chapters on when they need to be reviewed, and then we do need to make sure we have a valid review process in place, but couldn't agree more with that. I don't know why the motion couldn't be made that it just replaces that other one. I think it should right because it's just replacing the other plan yeah or just that this will be our only parks plan even that let that language would take care that yes ma'am supersede chapter

Cassandra Merrill. I did not read through the entire document. I got to like page 30 or 40, and I was not bored, because anyway. It was really good, but you know, I got to put it into a nap time, so I had to move it aside. Anyway, I'm just really grateful for the idea of the future of parks. My son and I go to the park almost every single day, so to be able to have them updated with features and more parks and different things is really exciting to me because my son, I have to practically drag him home from the park when it gets too hot. So I'm really grateful for the whole plan, the whole idea. So thank you.

Thank you. Any other public comment? Any questions? Anyone? I'm open for a motion on that.

and that motion would be uh to accept and to clarify that uh to accept ordinance number 2612 on parks trails and open space master plan including a provision of this the only or this plan supersedes any prior plan parks plan fortunately perfect okay so we have a

we have a motion by councilman jacks and a second by councilman councilwoman euler thank you the next one is discussion and consideration of ordinance 2613 rezone code text amendment that the community development department discussion on this and thank you for all the work you're doing on that the more simple we could make this the better it will be a lot less room for error now that's not the one that we got to figure out we don't have any public input on this one that's what we're here for

Maybe I'm the one that really cares. I hope not, but maybe I am, I don't know. The comment was made in your prior meeting about having a cheat sheet. I don't remember who made that comment. Councilman Jets, I wholeheartedly agree. A cheat sheet would be great. In fact, as I've asked several times and would encourage the staff to put a flow chart together. A simple flowchart would go a long ways to answering questions about how this whole thing works and how we get answers and what the flow and the process is and where we're supposed to be at in the steps. So a cheat sheet would be great, but a flowchart would be even better that would give us exact steps and what we can expect for each step along the way. So I would encourage you to have a flowchart to go with your cheat sheet.

And maybe we can build that into the community development website portion. Yep.

That's a great idea. I have it written down.

Any other discussion? I would entertain a motion.

I make a motion that we adopt ordinance number 26-13, Rezone Code Text Amendment.

I second. Okay, we have a motion by Councilwoman Volkut and a second by Councilman Westerville.

I'm more concerned about the man and woman thing. Next item, letter D, discussion and consideration of adopting ordinance 2614 planning commission code text amendment.

This is the one with the options.

but also with the checklists for us to do things on.

So can we pass this tonight with the changes that we've asked you to do, or should we just continue this one until they're done?

I would probably continue it so you can see what the lawyer says.

Okay, I'll make a motion that we continue. Do we want a table? Okay, or the discussion. Discussion, okay. that we table coordinates 26-14 planning commission code text until we read the further document. Okay. Is there any public comment on this before we move forward? Okay, thank you.

I'm thinking, okay we have a motion by council person boca yeah and a second by council person jex all those in favor yes say yes yes yes opposed if any Okay. We are bypassing E because we're not doing that. Whoa. Reports and calendar.

So we have the, on the 24th and 25th, we have the events with cooking and everything. Need all of your help.

that's a big deal so Saturday anyway Friday night we cook dinner Saturday morning we cook breakfast 430 Saturday and Saturday

Friday 630 in the past we've had a lot of help from departments and getting all that set up and then that's been not as wonderful as it has in the past

Well, Paul did it all.

He would have it all ready.

Yeah, we just come and work and now we're having to do work.

So you need to be there that early then?

If we're going to, I wouldn't be there much before seven. If it doesn't start till eight or five, I can take that. Is the PD going to help? Yeah, we'll be there. We have to be there at six so they'll start cooking sausage. So that's why PD will be there. That's what Zach told us. So you're cooking sausage and we're cooking the pancakes, right? Probably.

Which one do I do?

Both. Wasn't his like 5 a.m.?

We're talking a.m.? Yeah, that's why I said 6 a.m. What sausage should we cook? I mean, you'll be on through with that by 8 or 7.30.

Because last year we put it in that. The warm, the roasters, and that didn't go so well. Yeah, but if you have a cook to put in the roaster, then yeah. Try it on the griddles before the blackstone. Yeah, I think there's three or four officers going to help, so.

Okay, looks like we have our emotional well committee.

I missed, what time Friday then?

4.30?

Isn't it 4.30? And it starts at 6?

Yeah, so if it starts at 6, do we need to be there 4.30?

5? That's it. Yeah.

And then in the morning the next day.

And yeah, good times.

And it's fair time, so let's go have a good time. Walk around, support people, say hi. Are we in the fair parade this year?

We will be.

I will be in Atlanta, Georgia for work. Okay.

Maybe you can play. You're for me, but you're a sci-fi fan.

I'm a sci-fi fan. Oh, and AC, of course. Yeah. We'll see.

But, yeah, well, you've got to throw a game, yeah. We have the AC on. All right with you.

Now, what was that, Larry?

I said you have to have the AC.

You have to be able to do candy, but I guess the kids do.

Yeah, the kids walk behind us and do it. We have kids walk behind us. I'll sit in her AC. You can sit in me. okay great and then um the emotional wellness won't be to get until september 2nd um i think she's got a good excuse farmer's market hosted by businesses in town will be held the first saturday each month of shooting park from 10 to 2 during i think it's been going okay yeah i was in quarter lane a while ago they had their Farmer's Market. They closed a couple streets down. He walked out to down the streets. It was amazing. It would be fun to get to that point at some point. Cedar City Leadership Report. Have you got anything for us, Lindsay?

No, I won't apply, because I was trying to get us out of here with seven minutes.

We've got 25 minutes. We've got 24 minutes. They're doing good. Chief, come on up.

So we had an unrecent event that brought an old fire truck from La France fire truck back. The parade's coming up and it's still here. And so I'm wondering if you guys want the fire truck in the parade, and if you guys would like to ride on the fire truck. I was thinking- Which parade? The C. Yes.

Yeah, I think that'd be great.

I'm so bummed.

Every other year, we have to go to Atlanta for this trade show.

And it's over fair week. And I'm just like, I don't want to ride on top. You'll be sitting. It's a lower. It's an old classic truck. OK, that's good.

I can handle that. I'm not going high. Let's put all city council in that.

That's what I was thinking. Blair, if you wanted to drive it. That's what I'm saying. We'll keep it here at the station until then. We'll make it work.

Can I even still be a Tremont resident if I miss that? Sorry, you're not. That's a good idea. And we don't have to get the... We just make a banner on the side on the ladder. If you want, I was thinking you could drive it the way it is and you guys can...

we can put chairs in the back back to back so you guys are facing in two different directions if you want like a workaround or you can the city youth council usually follows and put it oh so we'll just sit there and watch them work and okay it'll work great i love it but we can house it until then okay i'm trying to arrange right now i saw it today out there yeah

so um well we keep it yeah let me know if you need help getting it back but i mean it'd be nice to keep it yeah we don't have yeah but for now it's good in the station i just wanted to check before we got rid of it i was surprised it was there i've been gone i hoped it was not yeah but i called the museum and said well try to get it right back because it's that's pain yeah for you guys

i think that's the best place to store it until we have a place here um i we're talking about building the station my grand idea would be to have our new station have a roll-up glass roll-up door in the front lobby and that's where it lives here and when you do that that'll probably be that'll be years from now right before that needs to happen yeah so okay then one other thing um Since we took over, we started a social media page back in April, I think it was April, May. We started at 1.2K followers and we're at 3.2 currently. And so we've been working with Blackthorn, putting videos up, explaining things like some of the questions like Councilman Volcker had about why we take the fire truck to the grocery store, things like that. So I think it's working, we're doing a good job.

And, of course, I'm all buying this. The picture, and I don't know who took that picture at the funeral at the cemetery. The one with the old truck and then just the... That was a good picture. I think that was Alex.

Who did? Was that just with a phone? Because he must have a better way to make that happen. I think it was his phone. So...

yeah a lot of the pictures we get they're on phones because they're we try to we're trying to make a point of getting having a guy stop take a second we're doing our job with we have a second take a picture get it to him so we can get it up on social media but he's been doing a great job with our social media so i'm grateful to him thank you and to you guys for helping with blackboard that's been been super helpful so good thanks thank you um

Anyone else have anything not? Just FYI, our citizen advisory committee is going to keep moving forward, but Norm stepped down from that. He's had some things come up in his life, so we will be restarting that pretty quick. Got a couple people that are really interested in helping us get it going, so we should see that start up and get going pretty soon. I want to thank every one of you for all that you do. It's fun working with you. I want to thank the city staff for everything they do as well. It was nice to have kind of like three weeks and I get back here and everything is still running normal. So that's awesome. That means Lindsay is doing a good job. Okay, with that, I would entertain one final motion.

Are we going to talk about the litigation issue in the session?

I have not heard enough yet. I think we need to move forward with that.

Do we have an update?

I don't think we do. I talked to the lawyer yesterday, and he didn't say anything. But if you want to go into closed session, we can do it. I do. Okay. Then I'll entertain a motion to go into closed session to discuss some litigation.

I'll make that motion to go into closed session. And I'll second it.

Okay. A motion by Councilperson Hoyler and a second by Councilperson Westrup. All good? Roll call. This is all for roll call? Yes.

Yes.

Okay. Sorry, we will not be long. That's what we said last time.

We're not going to be long.

We've got to protect the city. I said we've got to protect the city. And litigation, I think we need to report this one.