Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

have to have proper demeanor. Are we on? We good? We're good. Wonderful. Hey, welcome. Good evening everybody. Appreciate you being here. We are at the uh Tula County Planning and Zoning Commission meeting in the county building. Um it is 7 o'clock. Our first uh agenda item is the pledge of allegiance and Daryl is going to lead us in that. I pledge allegiance to the flag for the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you. Appreciate that. And we will do a roll call. Uh Commissioner Dao, he's online. Raise your hand. Yell something. I'm here. Wonderful. Commissioner Bartholomew here. Commissioner Stz here. Commissioner Scott here. Commissioner Hope is here. Commissioner Beckram here. Oh, shoot. Sorry. Aler. Alder. Thank you. Commissioner Commissioner Alder. The new guy. New guy.

Thank Thank you for being here. Thank you for your time and showing up. I I really appreciate that. And uh not to be melancholy. I really do appreciate that. um for the last time. I I do appreciate all of you showing up and uh and giving your time to the county. I appreciate that. Um action items number three. Uh oh, this first. Really? Wait a minute. If we No, you have to finish the It's on the agenda. Yeah. For next year.

All right. So, I guess we need to elect um a 2026 chair and vice chair. So, I would be ready to receive a motion or accept rather a motion uh for a nomination for chair of the planning and zoning commission. Commissioner Scott, are you willing to go it again? Yes, she is. On the I'll make a motion. Commissioner Scott be our new chair. It's a new goound. So it So Commissioner Scott has been nominated. Excuse me for chair. I'll second that.

It's been second. So it's uh Thank you for that. Um it's been nominated by Commissioner Beckram and nom uh seconded by Commissioner Alder. Is there any other nominations? Is there any other nominations? Is there any other nominations? Hearing none. Uh, I close nominations. Um, and I move that Commissioner Scott be accepted by power of acclamation. Uh, do I do a roll call vote? All those in favor say okay. Okay. Wonderful. Awesome. Congratulations, young lady. It is all you. So now I would be happy to accept a nomination for vice chair.

Michael Dao. Michael Dao. There's been a nomination by Michael Dao by Commissioner Scott. Did I hear something? Second. Oh, a second by Commissioner Bartholomew. Is there any other nominations? Is there any other nominations? Is there any other nominations? Hearing none. All those in favor say I. I. I. Uh I move that we accept uh Commissioner Dao for vice chair by power by commission. So moved. Say I. I. Wonderful. That's what happens when you don't show up. Mike

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condolences are always always welcome. But no um congratulations guys. That's that's great. And it's it's a it's a great opportunity to serve. It's it's a it's a great formality way to serve. Um sometimes thankless but it's it's needed and it's important and so I I commend you and appreciate your your willingness to serve. Um so uh promo uh proposed meeting dates. Each of you were emailed um proposed meeting dates for the year 2026. Um it's the first uh Wednesday of every month. Obviously, they might throw an impromptu meeting on the third Wednesday if needed. Um but uh due to the lack of size of the total county property that we formally commission over, it's only needed once a month. So, um any questions, concerns, complaints on those proposed dates? Then I would love to hear a motion to approve those dates.

So moved. Okay. So it's been moved by Commissioner Beckram, seconded by Commissioner Dao. All those in favor say I. I. I. Thank you. Thank you. Uh Tara, right? Did you do that? Put those together. Was that Stephanie? Whoever it was. Thank you staff for doing that. I appreciate that. Um the next order of business number four um is approving the October 1st, 2025 meeting minutes. Mr. Chairman, I move that we approve the meeting minutes as written. Awesome. It's been moved to approve by Commissioner Scott. I'll second.

It's been seconded by Commissioner Beckram. Uh any further discussion? All those in favor say I. I. I. Thank you. It passes unanimously. Um the next order of we actually get to do business. That's great. Number five, reszones. Uh RZ2025-151 Michael Drury. This will be presented by Hold on Millie Puquinto. Yes.

Welcome. Thank you. Happy to be here. Uh, what happened to our We lost all power internet. Oh, okay. Oh, it's her fault. It's a new girl. Call the new girl. Just a little switch. Well, she's getting all formal on us. Wow. Okay. PowerPoint. Jeez. Where have you been all our lives? I'm already starting. No. Good. Okay. Do I just have to Sorry, I'm really nervous right you are.

Um, hello. This is Millie Pukita with uh planning staff, not planning commission, planning staff. Um, and so I come today to talk about the reszone 2025151. Applicant Michael Dury is requesting a reson which is multi- multiple use 40acre minimum to MG manufacturing general of a 160 acre parcel. Uh so this reszone request is for a property west off of Burmester Road. Um the surrounding zones include uh manufacturing general, manufacturing distribution, commercial highway, um agricultural 20 acre minimum and MU40 multi-use. Uh staff found that no there are no concerns with compliance uh with the Tilla County general plan um as the property is in the general manufacturing zone and the applicant has an access via an easement and it's 33 ft wide to the property which is highlighted in yellow. Um staff has found that in order for the reszone to comply with the land use ordinance and the tule county transportation plan, the 33 foot wide easement has to become an 84 foot wide rideway to ensure compliance. Um, in addition, the parcel looks to be subject to wetlands and staff determined from the wetland um evaluation study that was submitted by the applicant um that it was not sufficient proof um as the study also states that um only visual observations were made and it also uh states that a wetland delineation report will need to be performed as well as a geotechnical study.

Uh so given the requirement for additional reports, planning staff recommends that the proposed reason be tabled at this time until the requested information is provided for uh reason zone 2025151 application. Thank you. Question. Do you know how he proposes to get the extra footage for road? There have there has been we have discussed with the applicant. Um there is intent for the 33 foot wide easement to be dedicated. Um however, there's been some push on um dedicating the full 84 foot that the engineer of the county is requiring. Okay.

And so where is that access? It's not on the paperwork. So um the access is um on the north side of northwest no sorry northeast corner of the property. Um, so so across from Hickley Road. So yeah, really just a continuation of Hickley Road is where this easement is. So it's on where that A20 um zone. It's just that top. So who owns the property that they would need to request the extra easement from?

Um it is a different applicant that the property that's parallel to Burmeister. Um, if I'm remembering correctly, the applicant owns the top two. Um, that's as much as I know for getting the remaining requirement. Well, yeah, that road just was what concerned me. No, it does me too. Concern I have because I I saw the barbwire fence and couldn't go through it. Right. It was closed. I don't know if it's supposed to be that way all the time or not. I opened it and drove through. Oh, you dropped it and drove through.

As long as you close it, right? I didn't. That's the real thing. Okay. So, um in the point of staying on task, uh any further questions for Millie? So, the applicant is aware that those two studies need done. Okay. So, we need to open a public hearing. Yes. So, oh, with our new rules, I you can do it. So, move that we open a public hearing. So, is there anyone that likes to approach the podium to discuss this matter? If you do, state your name, where you're from, please, and sign the roster or ledger, whatever it is.

Thank you, Millie. Hi, I'm Michael. So, I'm going to hand this up here. Thank you. Thank you.

So if you look at the um I also did the have the property on Higgley Road in the middle of Inland Port. That's light manufacturing. And uh so Higgley Road is approximately I think that's 33 feet wide all the way down. And then this would be an exact continuation uh through Burmeister through uh the the fellow that owns uh the property that I have access. His name is Scott Godfrey. Uh he owns Godfrey Trucking. It's called Burmeister 150 LLC. So that would go straight through. It was a proud achievement of ours. We been working on it like 11 months to go straight through to the 160 acre parcel with uh the heavy manufacturing. So our question was really uh even Burmeister is like 40 feet and I'm like why would we be required to do 84 feet as like a highway at the end of Higgley? Why would I mean it seemed like we our uh access easement was granted I think 1982 or something and all we did was move it from the south end of his property to the north end and then so that it would be a continuation of Higgley and then all a sudden it's this odd requirement to be so much wider. It would kind of look funny too. I don't know. I mean, everyone wants a wide road, but it's seems uh seems kind of out of place. Um, we have some additional concerns with just Higgley where the Inland Port has recently acquired that property from Arthur Higgley, you know, wanting him to um or wanting them to originally they told Trish that they would they were going to redo Higgley Road and then when they came up for a reason, they said they weren't going to touch it. So, and

we're kind of responsible to that because that's limiting some of the traffic that we can get to our property. So, that'll be something we'll have for another discussion. But our we were very proud to obtain to work with Scott Godfrey. He owns a trucking company, you know, Godfrey Trucking. He knows he said 33t would be plenty and he was happy to comply with that. So, but obviously we got to have the, you know, work with the rules, but I don't understand why it would have to be wider than what Higgley Road is, and it just be the same type of business that we're bringing. Just trying to bring more small businesses and employees.

So, I'm I I messed up. So, let me clear something up here. I should Thank you. Okay. I should have invited you up as the applicant separately to give you the time you needed. That's my fault. I opened a public hearing. Technically speaking, we're not supposed to answer questions during public hearing. So, let me do this in as a matter of formality and owning my own mistake. Is there any other in the public that want to address this issue? Okay. Hearing none, I'm going to close public hearing and now we can speak. Okay. Okay. Just being just being correct and then following the rules, right? Um I don't have the answer. Yeah.

I'm going to refer to Michelle. Okay. You'll need to work with our office, Mr. Jury. Um, we've had talks with the Inland Port. Higgley Road will need to be an 84 foot ride wide ride of way at buildout as well. That doesn't mean 84 ft of asphalt. That's just an 84 foot wide ride of way. Um, typically you only construct about 40 ft of asphalt. There's those boundaries don't allow for that. And then it gives there will have to be some work on that. So, it'll be some imminent domain. Just depends on it happens as things develop along it. So it wouldn't happen all at once, right? Because Burmeister I think Burmeister you you might right the pavement might be 40 but that easement total and the pavement it's like 65

Burmeister we have a 100 foot right away. No no no but I mean what he's talking about yeah the pavement's 20. So yeah I mean it's like Higgley is like 20 pavement. Yeah. So even when we had to do our county road improvements on Higgley, we had to add a little bit, you know, and then we had to do the swell and all that to to come to in compliance. But we do we are going to dedicate we're going to build the road at our cost and then we're going to dedicate it.

So that was my question is why it needed to be so big and unfortunately we don't control that part of the ordinance code. Um Michelle so what the master transportation plan is what govern so how what what would be his next step then he needs to work with our office to get that okay to get all the for us I think his next step is to get those two steps

well let's let's go over those other two questions too of the because we we did have a I I have become a wetlands expert because of my other property with division of natural resources and US Army Corps of Engineers but we had a a walked through from the wetland wetland engineer didn't see any vegetation that would be determined wetlands, but I I don't understand why that's not a subdivision um requirement before you can build a reszone. I don't I'm not understand why what aquatic resources delineation report would be required for a reszone when it's really what you could actually build on the property once it once it is zoned. to ensure that you have buildable property before we rebuild.

Oh, well given what the location. Okay. Which is required for all ourses out there. Yeah. Just not just you. Yeah. No, I we already went through that process before, right? And so you're familiar with it. So Yeah. Right. That's why. Okay. So I did and I did put a phone call into Jed Bell a couple times, but I didn't get her call back. But I was just trying to understand well number one I wanted to understand um who did the the Burmeister road improvements because it looked like they did a little patch job and to bring that into some sort of compliance but that still isn't 84t wide but they did add a little bit of asphalt.

They put some shoulders to get ready for a 2in melon overlay that will be done this year. Oh okay. Okay. I was wondering if if we could get the name of the contractor to help do the Higgley Road. The county did. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Well, I'll work with Jed Bell. So, I guess we'll let's table We need to work with our office. Yeah. Jed is not the one. Jed maintains the roads after they're built. Oh. So, he'll continue working with our office to get his other items. Okay. So, Okay. Yeah. Then then I propose that we table it and we'll work through these last items. Awesome. So go ahead and make your motion. Mr. Chairman, I make a motion that we table,

sorry, want to make sure reszone 2025-151 until February business meeting. Well, or or they propose it because there's a lot of work to be done. Okay. Until staff brings it back to us. Right. So, it's been motioned to table rec25-151 until staff, planning staff uh reposes. Nope. Okay. Commissioner. So, it's been proposed a motion rather by Commissioner Scott, seconded by Commissioner Dao. Any further discussion? Roll call.

Yes. Roll call. Commissioner Dao. Commissioner Bartholomew. Hi, Mr. St. Hi. Mr. Scott, yes. Commissioner Hope is a yes. Commissioner Bartholomew. I mean, Commissioner Beck. Yes. To be and Commissioner Alder. I want to get an Alder right. Thank you. It passes unanimously. Um, and thank you for your time. I appreciate you, Millie. Thank you as well. Thanks, Millie.

Um, and so number six is recognitions. We want to Why? I'm going to turn it downward. Michelle Kuster for this. As you are aware, a couple of years ago, the county code changed to where all boards have a twotterm limit. Unfortunately, we have two great planning commissioners that are at their two-term limit. Um, one would be our chair, Commissioner Hope. Look, I I got You wanted a nice gift.

Look at that. Um, he has served from 2018 to 2025. Wow. On our planning commission. So, it's been longer than you thought. It is a lot longer than And it says, "Presented to Blair Hope. Your commitment, insight, and dedication have helped shape the future of our community. Thank you for your service on the Twilla County Planning Commission. Thank you very much. Would you please join me at the podium so I can present you with your wonderful partying gift? What? Have tips or Oh, evidence or didn't happen. Awesome. Thank you. I want a hug. Thank you. All right. Well, cool. That is actually pretty cool. That is very nice.

Very nice. There's nice. Oh, that's awesome. That's so cool. Rat's tearing up. I know, right? Should I uh wait for Am I going to say anything? Please do.

No, I I just Thank you. I mean, it kind of sounds weird, but I I really liked him doing this. I mean, I enjoyed it. Um, for all the weird reasons to be honest with you and one of the main ones is to be in the know, right? I learned more than I ever wanted to about this stuff. Um, relevant or not. Um, but honestly, if when I was when I applied and Michelle, I don't know how I don't remember how she asked the question, but she asked something like, "What was one what's one of the biggest problems in the county?" And we talk about growth. And I said, "Growth isn't the biggest problem in the county. It's how you manage the growth that's the problem in the county." And so, I think we've done a great job. Honestly, I really do. Um it sucks sometimes because because the people um educated or not don't understand that you know the general plan is not a law. It's not a rule. It's not a code. It's a user guide, right? But they think it's the law and they don't they don't understand how the process works. And so it's been fun educating myself, educating you and through the process and educating them. So just continue the same. Again, I'm nobody special, but it was just really fun to learn and and to stay on task, right, to make things happen. We live in a great place. I moved out here 26 years ago for a three-year plan thinking, who the crap want to live in Twill County, and I'm here with my dream home, and I'm not leaving. So, I just appreciate you guys. So, thank you. Thank you for your service. Round of

applause. And then I had the uh benefit of getting some county training from our next planning commissioner. He was here a little before I was. So he kind of let me know the ins and outs of how the planning commission of the county was running when I came. So it's going to be a great loss of both of these gentlemen. But we'd like to present this to Brad Bartholomew. He has been a PL St. Bartholome he has been on the planning commission from 2017 to 2025. Man, he was here a year before I realiz I know, right? A bunch of glutton.

That's why I would always sit by you when I first came because you know me. He He is He has knowledge. I'll tell you what, he does his research. The box. All right. I don't have any speech. So, no. Thank you for enjoyed it. It's not fun. I like Blair. enjoyed being in the know but appreciate everybody and yeah thank you. Awesome. You've all brought a different area of expertise and knowledge to this board. It's been great and you guys will both be greatly missed. We will definitely notice your absence. So your next job is to go out and recruit your a long time ago.

We've been trying. Did I Yeah. Oh, I did. Yeah, I did. I did. Not a bot. Daryl. Daryl's here. He's He's trained. He's educated. He'll recruit. He'll recuse himself when he needs to. Just apply online to That's awesome. You get it, too. Round of applause. That's That's awesome. Hey, and by the way, I think I actually did not expect that. I was teasing you just to tease you. So, I'm actually gave you a pat on the back. I did actually.

Um, but no, thank you. I mean, there's been some you guys are amazing. There's been some great people um part of this commission and you guys are awesome and I thank you for your patience, for my naivity, my ignorance, my mouth. I mean, you guys are amazing. So, I I truly appreciate it. You guys do a lot of work that that is extremely thankless. It appears that way, but it's not. No one understands the work you guys do. I mean, it's it's incredible. I mean, absolutely incredible. I mean, we only see, maybe I'm saying the benefit for myself, but maybe you guys don't know this. We only see what we have to vote on. We don't see what they do.

I mean, 90% of the stuff they do, we don't see. Very true. I mean, that's that's flatout truth, right? And so, the knowledge they have to have, I mean, God bless you, Millie. Welcome to the clan. But you're in for it. Don't be scared off. I'm just telling her. Just keep it real, right? Just keep it real. I didn't introduce her. I know. Where did you come from? I got her last name right. Well, I introduced her to the council and I totally forget I didn't introduce her to you guys. Um, make her come out to the Pquinto. How do you say it? I'll turn up the mic and everything. Uh, pinto. Pinto. Of course you would say that. Yeah, it's Filipino, but I'm not Filipino. I'm Mexican.

I'll be in the Philippines in June. Oh, nice. I don't know how I Filipino last name came to Mexico, but yeah, my sister does did get Filipino trades though, but I didn't. But yeah. So, Trish left um she is coaching, which has been kind of a dream of hers. So, she left us to go spend more time doing that. She's coaching swimming at Desert at Peak High School and volleyball at Tula High School. Yep.

Yeah. and her husband has got an electrical business that she's been helping him with and so we wish her well and we miss her. But we have Millie Pioinito. She comes to us with straight out of the University of Utah with a master's degree in urban planning. She did spend nine months at Salt Lake City or county city city working on a transportation project with Oh, nice. Oh, some experience. So, she comes with great experience. Yes. I bought my home out here in earlier this year. So, I'm happy to say I'm a resident. Sounds like you found a girl like somebody else traveled out here. You're from New Mexico?

No, my I'm Mexican. Yeah, I grew up in Utah all my life. I was born in Orim, grew up in Springville, moved to Salt Lake County for undergrad graduate. Can you do that being born in Utah County? That's awesome. You can. She did. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a born and raised uton and she's come in and just picked things up and took off running. So, it's been great. That's what Well, you were obviously prepared cuz miss technology must be 18 or something, you know. That's freaking backwards. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. I'm super happy to be here. I'm happy that, you know, Michelle believed in me as an applicant and Tanya has been a wonderful wealth of knowledge. So, I'm really happy. Well, we accepted Tanya, so we'll accept you. Well, thanks for being here. That's awesome. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Glad to be here. Appreciate it. All right. Well, it is not yet 7:30 and uh for the very last time, I move to ajourn. Perfect. Thanks, by midnight. Thanks, guys. You guys are awesome.