Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, December 2, 2025
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Planning Commission
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Planning Commission
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Syracuse, UT
Meeting Date
December 2, 2025

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citizens and uh others interested parties. We invite thy direction and council at this time to uh help and and guide this meeting to uh come to a good resolution and and guidance that we may uh make the uh our city uh flourish and and have the best use of its uh land and and resources. We invite thy are grateful for thy many blessings and for our freedom and guidance meeting uh ask thee to continue to help us to enjoy them and to uh always appreciate them especially this uh time of of thanksgiving and and other holidays and we say these things in the name of thy son Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen.

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Thank you. Appreciate going out of order on that. Um next is adoption of the meeting agenda. Move to adopt as proposed. Okay. Second. We have a motion and a second to adopt the meeting agenda for tonight. First up is meeting minutes. This is the regular meeting and work session meeting minutes for November 4th, 2025. Any corrections or concerns? I move that we adopt the meeting notes from November 4th as written. Okay. Make a second.

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Great. And those meeting minutes are adopted. Thank you. Next is public comment. This is an opportunity to address the planning commission regarding items that are not scheduled on the agenda tonight for public hearing. Please consider consider others and limit your comments to 3 minutes. So, if you have any comments regarding things that are not on the agenda, please come up to the podium and state your name. And

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Dave Mann and uh thank you for giving me a minute. I have one unscheduled item, so I'm going to use public comment. It's recently come to my attention as we are uh putting new members on the architectural review board that we don't have a current sitting planning commissioner on that board. We like to have one sitting planning commissioner on the architectural review board so that they can bring back information that may have come up during that other review. Is there any who would like to be on that committee to be considered? I would be considered. Yes. All right. And you need more, let me know. Okay. Yeah. All right. That's all I have tonight. Thank you.

2:29 – 2:540

Yeah. Thank you. Hey, any other comments? Okay, thank you. We'll now move to item number four on the agenda, the public hearing. Um, considering the reg zone request by Leisure Villas for a reszone of property currently zoned A1 located at 2300 West Analopee Drive on approximately 4.27 acres.

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Yes, sir. I've got this one. Let me go to the map here. Uh this proposal is just south of Walmart and like you said, we've received this application from Leisure Villas. Uh if you look right here, the the general plan, you know, anytime we're looking at a proposed uh reszone, we want to consult with the general plan. Um what they're proposing is consistent with the commercial designation. Uh the existing zoning is R2 and A1. You can see all of the parcel lines. Uh this is left over. There used to be uh how I think about five or six houses that were on the property and and then UD do expanded the road and of course demolished the homes and then surpluses property to the new owner. Uh the proposed zoning is light commercial. Uh light commercial zone is kind of a new zone that was created the city. The intent is to be compatible with uh single family cuz and um you know this this particular context does have a lot of single family homes around the souththeast and west edges of of the of the property. Uh it's also subject to the limitations of the town center overlay zone. I don't think I have a map in here of that. But um the the process for a reszone of course is to have a public hearing here at planning commission and for you to forward a recommendation to city council where they'll uh make the final decision on on uh zoning map amendments. Uh so yeah, I'll turn it back to you, Mr. Chair or Vice Chair. And if you have any questions, let me know. I believe the applicants uh in in the audience as well. And of course a

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reminder that it is a public hearing.

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Okay. So this is a public hearing and um um first we'll open up for public comment and then we'll hear from the applicant. Seeing no public interest on this one, let's have the applicant come up if there's any questions from the commissioners and Winstrom with Leisure Villas have questions at this point. You know, we've had a couple presentations on this lot. Uh do you are we just looking to change the zoning or do you have ex

5:35 – 6:180

Yeah, we're just looking to change right now. We're we're thinking maybe two drive-throughs and two office buildings on it um at this point, but nothing's kind of set in stone yet. But that's kind of what we're thinking that, you know, applies with or complies with town center overlay and with the the light commercial zone. So, okay. Just just fitting. Yeah. Both of those you'll kind of have work work within the light commercial and the Yeah. And I mean the light commercial basically reinforces the town center overlay just with a couple modifications. So that's okay. Uh did notice that there's one or in previous applications the the one property that was up against

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there is that part of your this acquisition or is that there's a sliver of there was a sliver over there. It was originally in a different well it was combined it into one parcel originally and then that parcel got split into two parcels. So it wasn't the original one just under a different parcel number. Okay. So is that so is the LC zone going all the way to 2450 west then? All the way to the road. Yes. Okay. Yeah. It was like a a 5ft sliver that Yeah. I just remember they broke off into a a separate uh tax ID number. So So that's now all combined into this one.

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Yeah. And that was already in there originally. They just, you know, had a mistake that they had to fix and so they had to go through and break it up into two different parcels. Yep. Thank you. Any other questions, discussion? Thank you, sir. Thanks. Noah, just a question on the one small A1 zone on the proposed zoning. Is that just going to stay A1? Just the one small green Uh you're talking about this right here, correct?

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Yeah, that is actually uh this home right here I believe purchased this property from UD do prior to surplus and now they have like mega backyard. Okay. Okay. Thank you. So that's just going to be part of that home's property, right? Yeah. So that's not owned by the applicant and it's not part of the quest. Great. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Recommendation or we'll take a vote for motion on this then.

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I was expecting at least some public comment from it. So I yeah I'm I've had my questions answered and it uh I think it's a good balance of what uh we want to see there commercial but it's not going to be you know I know just as a reference the light commercial has a height limitation of 20 25 ft and so it's going to you know whatever buildings go there are not going to be some big commercial uh warehouse um you know big big tall 30-foot building and

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yeah there was a lot of thought put into when we when the light commercial zone was created. Uh it's a one currently a onestory max height 25 ft. Uh there's a list of permitted uses and there were multiple uses that are allowed in the commercial zone that were crossed off the list for this light commercial. Um but yeah, you can still do um restaurants and office and kind of strip mall kind of stuff. Um but yeah, some of those more intense things were taken off the list. Uh, and applicant did mention probably drive-throughs. So, there's still fast food style that'll go as an option.

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That's still in on the list. And like the applicant said, we just don't know exactly. So, the process there, if they're successful in getting a a reszone, then they would apply for a site plan that we would review and they would have to have one of the uses that are listed in the permitted uses or conditional uses. Thank you. And as a reminder, when you make your motion, this is a recommendation to the city council.

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Yeah, I can make a motion. Uh I propose the commission recommend the city council approve the reszone application of leisure villas for approximately 4.27 27 acres located approximately 2300 west, 1700 south to the light commercial zone. I'll second. Okay, we have a motion and a second. All in favor? I I. Any oppose?

10:33 – 11:040

Okay, that passes. Thank you and thanks for listening to the citizens and not having a big real tall development in this area. Appreciate it. For the record, I wanted to recuse myself from the last vote as I missed the discussion. Okay, thanks for thanks for joining us. Okay, we'll go back up to the agenda. Okay, next is uh are we on this one now? Yeah.

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Okay. City's received a reszone application from Chase Freebane or Freebar of Cole West North for approximately 12.83 83 acres located at approximately 963 south 2000 west rig quest includes one parcel. Okay. So we'll do a presentation.

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Yes sir. Okay. This one is the best way to describe it across the street from Utah Onion or kind of up by the high school or the one with the big giant tree in the middle. So, uh, the school district had purchased this, uh, to build an elementary school and they held it for a few years and then recently they decided that, uh, it's not it's not needed anymore with their future plans. So, they've they've uh there's selling this property to the uh applicant and as part of their due diligence with the applicant, they've submitted this application. So, there's there's actually two applications that we'll see, but I'll kind of go over them both. Um but as far as housekeeping goes, they are separate two separate applications. So the first one is uh the general plan uh currently is civic because of the school uh but now that it's not a school they're proposing to go low density which is which matches what's around it to the north south and east. Uh to the west of course um you have some commercial on the general plan because their frontage on on um 2000 west. Uh then if you look at the zoning um currently is A1 and their proposed zoning would be R3 which is consistent with what is south of there. The R so the R3 zone is a single family zone. Uh doesn't allow town homes or apartments or anything. So just single family and the minimum lot size is 8,000 ft² lot. Uh the R2 um is very similar to the R3, but the difference is that the R2 allows

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a minimum lot size of a 10,000 foot lot. So really, if you drive through the two neighborhoods, you probably won't necessarily notice the the zone change. R3 sometimes has more two-story homes than than Ramblers might be the only difference. Uh so yeah, that's that's their proposal. There is um there is a a draft development agreement that's included here because there's some specific things to the property that that both parties wanted to to cover. Um uh one is there's a big tree in the middle and um we felt that that was important to try to preserve if possible and luckily the developer has agreed to that. Uh the other part is the the city has plans to build a future fire station and we anticipate that there'll be a need to to acquire a little bit more land to accommodate the future fire station and and they've agreed to work with us on that as well. Those are kind of the two the two main points. I will note that there is an item in a little bit of of uh not flux but um that they've and this is something the city asked them to look at is there's a property right here that uh would have frontage on a future road that they would build and uh they've been working with that that property owner. So they're proposing to include this little little nub. It doesn't necessarily change a lot of about the application, but they're proposing to increase the size of this boundary to what's already being farmed. If you look at the the aerial photograph, this green part is kind of what they're proposing to add to the R3 zone. The these uh land

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owners are in conversation with them about selling the back part to there. If that happens, do they have to come to another meeting and get that approved then? You know, I I think that it's it's close enough and we're not through with the process yet. So, by the time they go to city council, it'll we'll have an updated map. This is just kind of something that's developed over the holiday week last weekend or last week. Um, so it's it's up to you how you want to treat that, but I I I think that it's largely the same application, same zone request, and it's all part of the same farm field. So, uh, yeah. So, technically

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property, the front, how do you know how that would break it up size-wise if they sell that back half? Uh, the the remaining lot uh just like off-the cuff measurement looks like there's about a half of an acre or probably close to a half acre left. A good size. Yeah, there's a single family home on it and they have a big backyard and a garden and all that. So all that would they would keep that and then just the part that they're not even using necessarily right now would go towards the the rest of the farmed area. Um but I think that that largely covers the majority of of what the development agreement would include.

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Where where would the future fire station be? Is that

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so? Uh, recently city council agenda had a a land sale for this parcel right here. It's it's the Gaye property is what we're calling it. And so city has agreed to purchase this. And so it would go where that house is. And then we think that with the depth that we would need, we need about another8 or so, let's call it an acre off this little back edge to accommodate a future fire station. And that would be uh a future fire station, the third fire station for the city, which should do us um should carry us through buildout. Great.

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Have any Will questions on this piece? Yeah, we're Yep. I'll give you a public comment in just a moment. Any other questions? Sure. We'll take a

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Yeah. So, uh similar to the last one, uh of course the the applicant is in the audience available for questioning. If you have more questions directed to staff, we're ready as well. And then of course a reminder that this is a public hearing. So like I said, there's there's two applications. The first one's the reszone and then it's the general plan. When we get it on the city council agenda, we'll want to make sure it's the general plan and then the resone to tech since technically the reszone has to comply with the general plan. Okay. So this is a public hearing. Um, if there is any public input on this specific item, you're welcome to come up and limit your Please state your name and limit your comments to three minutes.

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So, I'm Wayne Taylor. Uh, my backyard borders that wonderful property that's been a weed field forever. Um, my only comment is I do have some concerns with a fire station being there because I do value my sleep and just is is there any u mitigations that they would be able to do to keep you know the sirens from waking everybody up every night? I just just a thought of if there's anything to do in that space. And then is we're just talking about that section, right? We're going to talk about the other one after the fire station.

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We have the fire station which is the front by 2000. But I also want to address some concerns about talking about that one. So do that first. Go ahead. That's all I have was No, it's with this. So it is within. Okay. So if you pull that map back up, it'd be appreciative. So this big one in yellow is

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Yes. Yeah. So that's where a lot of our backyards are in. Uh there's some interesting geometry there. There's four roads that connect to that property. So our Cole West friends over here have got to figure out how to make that subdivision work with that. But I'm curious if the plans that they're thinking of would fit in an R2 zoning. Right? We're saying R3. That just gives a lot of latitude that may be unnecessary. and and most of us are in favor of lower density housing versus higher. And so I'm just curious if the the plans that they have I I like to see options. I don't like to see just here this is what we're going to do. Well, what would this look like if it were zoned R2 versus R3? And if if it doesn't make a difference, let's leave it R2 because then that keeps it restricted because ultimately once we reszone it, yeah, this is great and nice, but they can change their mind and say we want to do it different and and change it. So that that's all I'm saying. I I would like us as a city to lean towards lower density versus higher. So what would it look like? And maybe that's a question we can ask the the developers. What would this look like if it were R2? Does it not work? Now, I would like to see that. That's

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okay. Okay. Thank you.

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Dean Kger, 901 South, 1875 West. My question goes along with Wayne, and I'm glad he clarified that about the firehouse. Me personally, the firehouse I think is adding value to our property. That's what I think. The access on which way is north on this map that I'm looking at here? The top of the page.

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Top of the page. Got it. Okay. 1875 west. I see it. Are we going to be widening the existing road going to Banberry? Heritage Parkway or Heritage Parkway, pardon me. Excuse me. Thanks, Wayne. Got my back again. All my friends back here, they got my back. They do. So, are we going to be widening that road? There is three concerns that I have right off the bat. one, we're getting ready to replace these meters, these irrigation meters. And if we widen the road, this is a bunch of money that's been wasted, and they would have to be moved back to do that. Our taxpayers need to be watched over on this matter. The other item is uh if the roads widen then then I have no problem with it other than I was going to change my landscaping in the park strip along there and make it more water friendly. Uh the third thing uh that street when we get one car parking on it access becomes really limited and hard. Are we going to have to make it a non parking or residentonly time? These are the questions I have. And then concerning the backyards facing the existing one-story houses, are we going to be allowing twostory houses in there with windows staring straight down into those existing backyards? Okay,

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thanks. Thank you. Any other comments? I just had one clarification. I'm not opposed to the fire station. I was asking if there's a way to mitigate the sound, right? Great to have a fire station there. Nice to have it close by. Um, is there a way we can mitigate the sound? I don't know if that means more property to build a wall, what that looks like, but that's the concern. We'll see if we can get an answer for you. Okay. Thank you. Okay. So, I need to say so to the developer that I learned.

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Thank you for saving that tree. You didn't have to do that, but you did. That says something to me as a property owner. Thank you. Appreciate that. Hey, so any other further comment before I close the public meeting? Do did you do you want to come up and just take a look at it again how it was out played out.

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Okay. Seeing no further comment, we'll close the public hearing. State your name. Andrew Lynn. So, I live right next door to Dean right there. So, we're on that 1875 West. And my uh I guess comment in question is uh kind of along the lines of his. That's that street is like 10 ft narrower than those ones that come in from the south. I believe the one that comes in from the east is the same size. It's roughly 29 from like curb to curb. And since I live right there, I don't particularly want the street in front of my house to be wider. But um I'm just hoping there's not bunch of dump trucks and things coming down this teeny little narrow street during however long it takes to construct this. And I don't know if there's any uh kind of provisions along with storm water planning or things like that of of uh preferred routes for contractors to go through during the construction phase. That's I guess that's my biggest concern is

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safety of kids that are playing in that area right there. Yeah. Thank you. We'll we'll pass that on for the developer. Okay. Now, thank you all for your comments and we'll close the public hearing. Um and then we'll we'll now hear from the um applicant. I'm Taylor Anderson with Cole West. Um Noah did a great job uh presenting it all. Um and I'm happy to answer any of your questions or what was addressed in the public hearing.

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Okay. So, thank you. We'll start off with um the first one was the sound mitigation and we may have to hear from the fire group, too. But uh in other developments and things, what do you do when you've got a fire station near you? You are you building a wall on the edge of your property or Um yeah, that's a a good question um that I haven't thought of up to this point. Um I would say uh there probably wouldn't be a sound wall. Um but I mean I think we just have to work with the fire department to figure out what the best solution would be. Okay. Yeah. So I don't know if I have that answer at this time.

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Okay. And as a reminder for you who have made comments too, we'll be presenting this, you know, further to the city council and some of these questions will get addressed even more so for you. Okay. The next one was the other question that came up was R2 versus R3. Yeah. Yeah. we um

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you know working you know the economics of this project uh we felt that the especially with the R3 being just to the south um and I I think Noah mentioned before if you're driving through R2 and R3 there's you really I mean unless you're really looking for it I don't think you can quite tell a difference. Um and so you know with the open space that we're leaving you know for the tree want to make sure we preserve that if possible. Um we felt that the R3 zone made more sense. Okay. Yeah. And then this may be for the city, but just um the road widening um we may have to work with our traffic engineers and others on that. Yeah. Yeah.

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Okay. And we'll work with them too on water meter installation so that we do everything correctly. Don't want to add added expense, right? Yeah. And then parking. What have you what's your experience with parking along like along the streets? Yeah. Um, yeah, it's a good question. Um, I you're the concern is that there would just be too much parking. I mean, we we felt like I mean, these lots are 8,000 square ft. Um, and you know, that puts it like 4,000 to 5,000 square foot homes. We feel that there's probably enough parking, especially with the driveway and Yeah. Great.

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Yeah. And then lastly, just this is mostly for you as a developer is just um during construction um you know I know we we're expanding lots of lots of development with but there was some concern raised about um noise and um dump trucks you know during you know so I think you guys do your best to control the time of day that they're doing these things and safety for children and stuff. Yeah. So do you have any comment on that or

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Yeah, we I mean we feel that the the you know the people that we hire to do con you know do our construction work and our contractors that they're super aware of that especially being surrounded by three sides of you know residential homes want to make sure that s they're not working late and and that they're super respectful to the neighborhood. So we we would yeah make sure of that especially in like the precon meeting and and yeah we would make sure that's addressed. Great. And then any other comments or questions from the council or commissioners?

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I just want to echo uh and thank you full that you're saving the tree. I I'm still upset that they tore the one down uh up by the high school. Yeah. Uh we are getting an arborist, you know, to look at it to make sure that, you know, I mean, we're putting that in the development agreement, but we don't want to make we want to make sure that the health of the tree isn't, you know, at the end of its life. And then we're responsible to keep it right. We want to make sure that it's healthy and you know us preserving it in the open space just makes sense. Okay. So, and that parcel is it you've got it labeled as parcel. Yeah. Yep. That open space or is that

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Yeah, it would just be that'd be where the tree is and that'd be uh the storm detention um as well. And so, yeah, we we're still kind of figuring out what we could do there, but it would just be open space for the preserve the roots and everything. Yeah, I would make sure that, you know, we'd have everything far enough away from the tree to not impact it. Okay. But it's not going to some property owner incorporated into a a lot that you would sell off that would be part of a house. It's actually would be still open space. Correct. Yeah, that's good. Hey, Mr. Chair. Yes.

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Uh just one other question that was asked about the twostory homes. If we could address that as well. Yeah, the two-story homes, you know, their backyards big looking down into their yards from adjacent property. Yeah. Um, you know, I think it more so is dependent on the market of what I mean, we don't know exactly what the dimensions of these, you know, projects are going to look like and what the exact elevations and everything for the individual houses. So, I think we can't really answer that question at this time. I mean, we we obviously want to be aware of the neighbors and make sure that we're not having windows high so they can see in to their neighbors. So, we we would we'll figure that out, but I don't know if we know that answer at this point.

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Okay. Thank you. We'll make sure that passed on to you if this moves forward. Okay. Thank you. Thanks.

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Okay. Any other questions? Uh, no questions, but maybe a comment just on, you know, com comparison of the R2 to the R3, as was mentioned, an R3, the lots can go down, have a minimum of 8,000 versus an R3, which has a minimum of 10,000. Um, looking at this, there are actually still there are several lots that are above 10,000 that are already meeting that. There's only it's not the whole thing that's going down to 8,000. You have several that are into the 10ens and twelves. Um that that are in the 90 9600. I see 9700. I mean there's one that's three square feet short of hitting the R3.

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Is that I think it's a good it's done a good job of fitting you know the area and that you know that was requested of what would an R3 look like. I don't it might just be a changing of the lot lines a little bit and that uh I don't think that you'd have a change in the number of homes. If anything, it would be one less home in the entire 13 acres. Uh and so even though it is a higher density, the an R going to an a an R2 versus an R3 is not that the look of the homes are going to be the same and that the lot sizes are going to be very similar. And I don't I don't think we're trying to smash extra ve uh homes in here going to an R3. You're you're a couple hundred square feet difference. Okay. Thank you. Okay, Mr. Chair. I've got the the dimensions that are allowed in the R3 if that helps with the conversation. I don't want to distract, but but yeah. So, you the the lot width and the minimum lot size are the main difference. So you have 8,000 square ft and a 80ft lot width. Front yard set back is 25 ft and rear yard is 20 ft. So uh whatever goes there will will have at least 20 ft between the house and the back fence. And then if you go uh look at the R2, you've got uh 10,000 and then an extra 5T. Then the front is the same and then the rear yard has an extra five feet.

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That's a great note to Thank you. Great. Thank you for that. Excuse me. I have a comment as well on that. This is for the developer on that parcel with the tree that's intended to be green space. Uh first of all, you said you were going to contact an arborist to ascertain the health of the tree and whether it would stand or not. And that will remain as green space even if the tree were to come down. Is that accurate? Are there plans for the the quality of that green space? Is it just going to be a drainage basin? Is it going to be a park? Is it going to be kind of a wildland walking area? Um what kind of plans do you have?

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Sure. Please.

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Yeah, we would I mean we'd look at our different options. could, you know, have some sort of potentially an an amenity. Um, but yeah, we haven't really dove super deep into that yet. My suggestion this would be I don't feel like just a blank retention basin with no trees, just a just a grassy hole in the ground is really doing anything to meet the city's requirement of a certain number of acreage of parks per citizen. Uh, Royce, what's the exact number on that? Do you have that off the top of your head? I know there's a ratio, but anyhow, it it it seems sneaky and disingenuous to have green space just for its own sake and not have it be useful.

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Yeah. But if we're trying to preserve it for a tree, then that indicates we want a certain quality. And maybe if the tree did have to come down, maybe there'd be suggestion for a a certain number of trees to replace it. Yeah. Another thought would be uh perhaps uh for the city to consider having their own selected arborist that is a third party and not selected by the developer that might potentially have a bias there. Yeah. Yeah. I I think that was the plan is to we were going to have our arborist look at it and then make sure that work with Noah to to make sure that it's you know unbiased and they could have their own go at it. And I'm not accusing anybody of anything, but it just kind of makes me think of a developer getting his own building planner kind of a thing,

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right? Yeah, I think that's totally fair. Okay. So, yeah. Thank you. We appreciate you coming up and verifying or clarifying that for us. Okay. Of course, if the tree stays, then that's obviously there's no uh you know, if it's if it's healthy, then obviously it wasn't biased because it Yeah. And it's a nice tree. Best we can to preserve that. Appreciate it. Okay, we'll take a motion. Did uh mayor, did you have a comment? You were raising your hand.

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Yeah. Question come up. Because this property was school uh district owned reverse. Um we were given the chance to city to purchase it if it was for a city use. We don't have a city use in that area. So, uh we just negotiated on the buy our property. But when that happened, we did meet with the school district and say, "Whoever you sell it to, we meet with them." So, we did meet with the person that had got the award and bid. And uh the difference between an R3, and I'm expressing this just because it wasn't said, but I think it helps explain the difference between an R3 and an R2 really allows them to preserve the tree without losing the extra density. So, a small 5 foot uh density. They're not getting extra density here. They're getting the ability to preserve a green space by getting R3 versus R2.

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Whether you like it or not, that just it was seemed like a reasonable compromise. So many people feel passionately about this tree and we didn't want to lose it either. We love trees here in the city. I would also just say one thing about the fire station. I I understand there's some concern. The fire station, we don't see uh a need for that fire station probably 10 years into the future. You just have to get land when you can get land. So it may not even be needed at all. We you know we don't build fire stations just because right now we don't have the need. It depends on the build out of the city. So it may not be we may have this extra parcel but right now we just have to protect that. Thank you for that comment,

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Mr. Chair. Can I add to that too about the fire station since it's so far out in the future, you know, it hasn't been designed, but the the question was asked, can there be mitigating things? The answer is yes, absolutely. There's fencing, there's landscaping, and when the city when it comes time for the city to actually build the fire station will address those concerns. And in by ordinance, we do have a buffer requirement when you have different land uses next to each other. And and so we would follow that buffer ordinance for the fencing and and landscaping requirements.

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Thank you. And I agree with the citizen who came up and said, you know, I think that was Andrew. Um not against a fire station that adds value to our neighborhoods and security. Certainly lowers your insurance. Yeah. response times to emergency situations. For sure.

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So, thank you. Okay. Now, we'll entertain a motion. Do you want to bring that up on the screen for me? And reminder, this is there's actually two applications here. So, if you want to do separate, we need to do the general plan first. Well, we're not technically approving it, so I think it's okay the way it's ordered in the agenda, but

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the wording to combine them as combined recommendations. I would do two separate motions for two separate agenda items. It's a little tedious, but I think that's probably the right way to do it.

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Uh well, I from the comments and I I valued the comments and I think that we've addressed a lot of them and that uh moving forward on this that I would I would be in favor of that and I would move um want to make that. I'm trying to pull from this. Do I need to read this whole summary or where did you have I didn't put together motion language, but generally speaking, you you uh recommend a city council approve or deny and the address the the existing zoning to request zoning.

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So, I would recommend that we uh recommend or we I move to recommend that we how do I say I I rely on that wording too much. So, um move that we recommend to the city council that they uh approve the reszone of 963 South 2000 West uh per um the application from Chase Freebane uh for this 12.83 3 acres uh uh known as let's see

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may one to yeah to R three is what the application is okay a second we have a motion and a second all in favor to recommend this to the city council I I thank you pass and then we go to the second part of to the general map plan amendment.

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Uh so I can just jump in again there. uh proposed that we uh recommend to the city council the general plan amendment of 963 west 2000 uh or 963 uh south 2000 west uh uh to change from um A1 R3 A1 to R3 from that is certainly civic that would be to R3 to change the general plan to low density residential. Uh, thank you to low density residential things. There's a good good reference. A second. Okay, we have a motion and a second. All in favor?

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I I I thank you. That pass. Okay. Okay. This is agenda item number seven. And thank you all for being here. who have participated so far. And this is to review the following information regarding um the address of 2052 West 1700 South to general commercial.

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Okay. So I think I don't know if the agenda was different. So this is going to be the the Syracuse Retail Subdivision Second Amendment. Uh so this is going to be um it's just a a change to the property lines in this this so division. So currently you see these dotted lines that doesn't denote any sort of property line. The current property lines are this this exterior line here. They're just going to condominiumize it which means that they basically take one unit within the existing building and single it off. Uh condominiumiz could be one or more units. In this case, they're just doing the one. So, they can sell just that one unit individually. So, creates a separate lot. Um whereas this previous lot here will remain existing. It'll just have this essentially hole in it. There'll be this other lot. So, um what's been proposed here meets all the requirements of the city code. All staff comments have been addressed. So, we would recommend approval.

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Questions? So that's already an existing building. Is it like a standalone shop building? That's that nail place. Yeah. So if you know uh So this is like the clock tower out there on the corner of 2000 in Analopee. It' be like right here. So there's I want to say an AT&T store. They got Papa Murphy's. Uh there's a couple of other Yeah. So we've got a few businesses in here. The business that's going to be operating or is currently operating here just wants to purchase this one and then they're going to move forward with their business.

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And with the condom condominiumizing. Uh is there I imagine there's an agreement with there and they they address parking and stalls and kind of HOA long long-term, you know, access all in

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Yep. and all that would be currently in place. I mean, with with anything like this that's currently constructed, uh when they come in to get a business license, if it's a significant departure from what's currently in there, we'll always double check parking and make sure everything fits. Um, I've never encountered something where they didn't have adequate parking. Uh, but a lot of times there is a a fair amount of like, oh, that's a dentist office and this operates in the evening, so we're trading and and that kind of thing. So, but I mean, if they didn't have the parking, they just they'd be out of luck in terms of a business license. Trader Joe's is coming into that one. Right. Right. Small enough. Yeah. Right.

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So, do we know what's planned for that lot then? Uh I know the applicant can speak more to it. Um but to my understanding it's a it's physical therapy on you can speak more to it microphone please.

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Um so I I um am actually so I'm the applicant. I've submitted this application on behalf of the owner. I am the uh one of the business owners. I own a physical therapy clinic uh in that that strip mall and we are currently purchasing the building. Um but the we we are it's be it is being separated into the one unit. Um and then the six units combined or will stay as they are existing. Uh all of the units are currently occupied and nothing will change as far as what is going on within the businesses. It is just being separated for ease of sale. Um so that's kind of all that's happening there. There there's not going to be any change in the current business structure as it is uh currently.

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Thank you. Yeah. Any other questions? Sweet. Appreciate you. Any questions from the commissioners? No. Is this a public hearing? Are we It is. Yes. Public hearing. So, we'll open this up for public comment. We don't have anybody online right now.

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That was my next question. Anyone online? Seeing that there's no one online and no public comment at this time, we'll close the public hearing. And now, any other further questions or a motion? not really changing the use and it's not working well. So, I don't see any I have no thoughts. Yeah, I can make a motion. Uh I move the planning commission approve the request to Jordan Brady for a plat amendment located at 2052 West 1700 South on 0.887 acres in the GC zone. Okay, I second. We have a motion and a second. All in favor?

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I I thank you. That passes. Now we're on to number eight. Uh, final plat. This is a request by Ivory Holmes. And this is phase six of the Legacy Park. So, this one is uh just wrapping things up. Uh, Legacy Park Estates. We did we just did phases five and six and there was kind of a unique situation there with a couple of lots that were sort of standalone and this this continues that road down to the south. So, uh the north in this case is to me to the left. So, um again just more standard single family stuff out there. Uh but this this completes their uh preliminary plat area. So everything to the east of this is going to be Syracuse City and then the south is uh going to be just uh the single family there to the south. So um what's been proposed here is uh it's really just more the same. So again that that phase 4 those two kind of standalone lots in that phase and uh that that created this road here that they're just completing. So this will stub into the Syracuse city parcel. Uh but this road is short enough it doesn't require a fire turnaround or anything. So the stub as shown meets all the requirements of the code and then it's really up to the city in terms of what we want to do here. Uh there is a road potentially on this side that I don't know may may not connect. There was a lot of discussion with preliminary plat. No guarantees either way I guess but uh the way it's laid out now um we have parkland here but this is just going to remain farmland for the foreseeable future. So, um, all of what's been proposed here meets the requirements of the code and all the staff comments have been addressed. So, we recommend approval.

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Thank you. And this is the I think the final phase of this subdivision, correct? Correct. Just out of curiosity, is that 401 and 402? Do they which way do they front? Do they front on to 1170 or do they front onto the north? So I I I put addressing for both sides when I put it together. I guess it's really up to them. So if they want to go I I just I'm not sure if they've received building permits on those off the top of my head, but I could look it up if you're if you're interested. I'm just curious if if they were going to match the rest of the street or not. But

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yeah, my guess is this road here because it's probably less busy. But yeah, really up to the developer.

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Hey, thank you. Okay. And this is um the final motion for this final plat. So, if we'll take a motion on this one. Can I make a quick comment? Sure.

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Uh this is a little bit tangential, but that legacy park is there's a little field kind of buffering between the two, right? Uh, is there any plan by the city to maybe expand Legacy Park or absorb some of that land to improve that green space? Um, there's a nice pond there, but there's not any playground. There's not It's got a nice walking path, but it's pretty small. It'd be a great asset if there was an opportunity to kind of expand on that before it was just built out with housing. For sure. Yeah. If you look at our transportation master plan, it's all that area is all slated for park expansion. Okay.

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I know uh a long time ago the city had some concept plans drawn up and they ended up building just phase one of of a second phase. And uh it's been so long I I doubt that those plans will be built, you know, as originally imagined. But but yeah, it's it's definitely on on the city's uh radar. I don't know when that would be improved, but with with all of this development, every house pays in towards our impact park impact fee fund. And so in theory that that would give us some funds to develop the park eventually.

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So there is a parcel that is owned by the city adjacent to the park already that's inside. Yeah. So there Yeah, that's about what Royce is pointing out right there. Okay. Yeah, that was my question. and I I walked my dog over there and I just think it'd be a shame if that just limited that park when there's so much potential. So, thank you. That Yeah, if you can see there's that road stub that comes straight down and then it's just the width of one lot, right? And then everything east of that is all city-owned park future parkland. Great. Thank you. Yeah. No, no further questions. Okay. Did we do public comment on this already?

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This this one's just for final approval. Correct. Yep. So, this is just a a motion to approve the final plot. Okay. I'll make a motion. Okay. Go ahead. I move the planning commission approve the request of Ivory Homes for approval of a final plot for phase 6 of the Legacy Park Estate subdivision at 12:30 West, 2425 South on 4.42 acres in the R2 zone. Second. Okay, we have a motion and a second. All in favor of approving this plat request. I

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I thank you. That passes unanimously. Okay, then we're down to item number. That was eight. We're on to number nine. Ajourn. Move to adjourn. Second. Pardon? Got a working session, right? Yep. And now we'll adjourn that. Everybody in favor of adjourning. I thank you. Now we'll move into the work session. Department of business city council liaison report. I did have two announcements. Oh,

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but somebody already said something about the fire station land. I've just been waiting to tell you guys about that. Somebody. Oh, you're thunder. Um, the only other thing I wanted to mention is that we did as a as a city council when we stole your meeting night on November 18th, we did certify the election results. And so we have two new council members starting in January and uh you don't get a different mayor, but the mayor was also certified as as the mayor. So just wanted to let you guys know. So sound disappointed about that. No, I'm very happy with that. We still have you.

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Yes. I I was not I was not one of the seats up for re-election. So, the new council members are Abraham Pard and Andrea Brown. And the outgoing council members are Jordan Savage and uh Jennifer Carver. Carver. Oh my gosh, mind blanking. Jennifer Carver. So, those are the two outgoings. So, that's all I had for you guys. Thank you. Thank you. We do appreciate you being here. Yeah. Thank you. We'll count each council member as an announcement. So then you can say too and update on city attorney or he's uh unable to attend tonight. So

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and no report from the city attorney then? No. Okay. And discussion items, upcoming agenda items. Yes, we have a whole bunch that's going on. Um, we've had quite a few new applications, but for the December 16th meeting, which uh maybe um before getting into the nitty-gritty on that, so uh obviously December is very busy. Uh for those who are here currently, do do you know if all of you will be available on the 16th? We want to make sure that we have enough for a quorum. Yes, I'll be there. Yes, we will have a quorum.

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All right, perfect. Okay, so we do have a lot going on. um the uh the Let Them Be Kids Preschool uh they've they've decided to move forward um and they're on 500 South or 500 West um just north of Gentile down there. Um they're uh they're going to do a site plan and conditional use permit. Um and then we have the Lakeside Flat subdivision which is just south of West Lake Landing subdivision. and it's just right in here the residential component. Looking at bringing that forward. Um we also have the site plan for 7-Eleven which purchased the Jags property up here. Uh it looks like that one's going to go through there on the 16th as well. Uh let's see. We also have received applications for um back down here on this corner, we have a a business called Pickle Ball Kingdom. It's like a large indoor pickle ball arena type thing. And then we have something called Sim City, which is going to be just various simulators. And so they're looking at developing this out as kind of a sports park uh commercial sports park type thing.

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I did see a post on that and they were listing every single business there today. Oh yeah. Yeah. They've been working hard on it and I know they they're really pushing to get those approved. So hopefully we'll see if we can get that on the 16th. If not, it'll it'll be January. Um, is that corner gas station officially? Yeah, we we have some interest from a gas station here. Um, and then like a tire shop potentially, but we haven't received applications on those. So, okay.

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It's kind of just speculative at the moment. Um, then we also have uh let's see, we have an application for a commercial subdivision west of the golf course here, the one that we did the reszone on recently. um they're going to move forward. It's the same folks that are doing this subdivision. So, kind of a similar setup. And then, uh we also have a request for an indoor storage zone in this area. Uh we'll be looking at a reszone application there for that one. And then, uh you said storage zone.

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Yeah, indoor climate controlled storage. And it's fairly small. It's more of a personal use is what the applicants told us. But again, we'll we'll I guess discuss that more when it comes forward. Um we also have a revised site plan application for the take five oil that we approved a couple months ago. Um they just want to change the building size and it's enough of a change that it does need to come back to the planning commission. Is that where you're pointing right now? Is that where that will be?

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Yep. Just right here, just west of the uh 7-Eleven property. Um, and then we also, let's see, we do have a couple of variance applications. We don't need to worry about those. Um, that make sure I didn't miss anything here. Yeah, that is currently uh it's currently it. Okay. And we haven't heard anything yet property in front of Costco yet?

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Nope. Nope. Uh, I'd imagine folks are going to want to wait until everything's completed. Costco's gone up pretty quickly. Uh, for those of you that have been by there, but yeah, we do have a few commercial pads here that uh once all these improvements are completed, I'm sure those will build out fairly quickly. And do we know when they're going to work on the roundabout right there by the fire department? Soon as possible. Very soon. that I didn't know that got

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they'll probably start maybe the first day of school in the fall. Yeah, good plan. Thanks. Anything else? That is all. Okay. Okay. And then that's upcomer reports. Anything? and thank you for joining the architect board. We appreciate that. And um motion to adjurnn. Yeah. Move to adjourn. Okay. I second. All in favor? I. Okay.

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Thank you. together.

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Hey, let's look at that. and a 12.

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