Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

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Nope. Scott is actually next to James's empty chair today. Okay, and we'll keep them this way. So, yeah, hopefully they'll be unless you want to move them. We can switch one of that's that's fine. So people won't get tired of looking at

Scott. Did I move? Yeah, sorry. Next to what I said is Scott. All right.

Hi, Scott. Scott, I'm Kelly. Kelly. Sure. My last Kelly. You're Kelly. Kelly Neielson. I'm not on this. Neielson. Not there yet.

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in charge tonight. Neil, I am James has to be excused. Yeah, his folks. What if all these figured out? Well, they didn't give you much time to get it in, did they? They were like here. [Music] Yes, [Music]

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Are we good on recording? Neielson. Yes. Go whenever you are. And uh Mr. Vice Chair, right? So I've contacted uh Heather here, so she's ready to go also with the swearing in. Great. Thank you.

Okay. Well, good evening everyone. Um we'd like to um welcome you here tonight for our planning commission meeting for July 15, 2025. It's now 6 p.m. So we'll get this meeting started. Um we'll start off with an invocation or thought. And prior to that, I'd like to excuse James King. He's asked to be excused tonight. And so I'll give the invocation and then we'll have Commissioner Sheay give us the pledge of allegiance. Our beloved father in heaven, we're indeed grateful for this opportunity, Father, that's given to us to look over this city that we call home. We pray, Father, that we'll be mindful of the needs of our citizens and those who have the opportunity to work with us, that we will do those things which will be of the best interest for all involved. Please watch over us and bless us with insight and help us to have the quorum and a nice meeting. We say these things humbly in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

Amen. If you if you stand for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and for all. Thank you. Next is um adoption of the meeting agenda. Motion. I'll move to adopt the agenda as presented. Second.

We have a motion from Commissioner Sheay and a second from Commissioner Baker to approve the tonight's agenda. All in favor? I. Thank you. So, first up is the regular meeting and work session for July 1st, 2025 for those who are here in attendance. Um, are there any corrections or issues with the minutes? Motion. Move to adopt the minutes from July 1st meeting. A second. Okay, we have a motion and a second to adopt the minutes as outlined. And next on our and all in favor? I

I abstain. I was not not in attendance. Okay. Next is um public comment. This is an opportunity to address the planning commission regarding items that are not scheduled for public hearing on the agenda tonight. Please consider others and limit your comments to 3 minutes. So, if you have anything you want to talk about that's not on the agenda tonight, now is the time to come up. Seeing no motion, we'll move on to our first public hearing. This is the plat amendment for was how they're going to do those oaths at the beginning. We're going to do those oaths, right?

Yes. Sorry. Let's move on to that. Thanks for the reminder. So, Heather Nelson has asked us, we have two new board members that didn't take the oath of office um last time we met. So, we have oath of office and I think Heather is on the phone with us. Is that correct? Yes. Thank you, Heather. It's good to hear you. We have for Kelly Nielson and Scott Shay. Heather over to you. Okay. So, you should have um Commissioner Nielson and Commissioner Sheay in front of you, the document to sign. They don't give you a ton of space, but do you have um the two pieces of paper? Yes. Yes.

Okay. So, if you can just repeat after me for the record. Um and then after you repeat, then I will have you sign that and uh we'll go from there. So, I do solemnly swear that I will support, obey, and defend the Constitution of the United States. And the con you want us to be doing that in tandem? Yes. After. Yeah. So, you can do it together. I'm sorry. Okay. Let's start again. Okay. I do solemnly swear that I will supportly swear

um that I will support that I will support obey and defend the Constitution of the United States and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of this state and the Constitution of this state and that I will discharge the duties of my office and that I will discharge charge the duties of my office with fidelity with with fidelity. All right. And if you can just sign those, you are now official and sworn in. So, thank you. Thank you. And we'll get those documents from you guys. Thank you, Heather. Do you have anything else for us?

Uh, no, that's it. Okay. Thank you. And we welcome these two new new gentlemen um officially. So, thank you. And now is a public hearing. Um item number four on the agenda for the plat amendment. This is a request by Elite Craft Homes for a Plat amendment within the Heritage Lane commercial plaza located at approximately 1759 West 1700 South. The proposed change involves approximately 0.4 acres in the PRD zone. If you have any comments or want to address this item, now is the time to come up. So, and please state your name for the record. Uh,

my name is Tanner Preston. I'm an agent for Elite Craft Homes. So, the reason we're doing this amendment, um, it's been a long time coming, this project. We're really excited to get it off the ground. However, the bank has required us to make this amendment in order so that we have the option to sell off the six commercial units on the main floor. Um, without that, we won't be able to start this and you'll have an empty lot sitting there. So that's just kind of why we've we've uh come before you today. Okay. Anyone else regarding this item? Okay. Seeing no movement, we'll um close public hearing and now have opportunity for commissioners to talk about this or let's I guess turn over to you for a moment presentation. Yeah, I'd be happy to just explain it quickly. Yeah, so this is uh let's see, I'm going to go down to the plot itself. So, all this is is uh changing this current lot here, which is the building footprint for a mixeduse office and residential building that we saw a few months ago. They're changing that uh into what we call a condominium plat, which essentially makes each unit its own uh lot essentially. I mean, they're they're units lots. They can all be bought, sold individually. Uh that makes it so that each residential unit could be owned by the person who lives there or potentially an investor. And then also, uh for the commercial spaces on the bottom floor, um they also have some common areas like the hallways. There's some utility closets here and and the stairwells and so on, but uh shared walls would also be common. And then the uh the units themselves could be could be owned individually. And this would be the first uh condominium plat like this that we have in the city. So be interesting to see

how it goes uh provided it's approved. But uh we have reviewed this and all the staff comments have been uh met. So we would recommend that it be approved. [Music] Thank you. Any questions or comments from commissioners? Okay. Does it I mean it's you just mentioned it being the first one. Is there any thing that we should be aware of that's unique to condominium plat? No. No. I mean it's uh it's just basically a 3D plat. Same type of situation as a regular plat amendment.

Thank you. I have a question. Maybe I missed this in the documentation, but is there any way to distinguish whether those uh non-residential units, would those be commercial as opposed to office? Is that the idea or is that uh just depends on who buys it? The the main floor, there's six units if you'll come up. Sorry. Thanks, Cameron. Just so you can answer that. Gotcha. Uh the six the six units on the main floor were meant for commercial use. Um, we originally going to have them and have them as rentals, but in order to secure financing, we needed the option to be able to sell them, which is why we're doing the amendment. But the two floors above, there's 24 units that are that are residential, but the the six on the bottom are would be like tenant finishes for for commercial space.

So, mixed use. Yeah, mixed use. Yeah. So we would build them as kind of a shell to begin with and then we would build them to suit depending on if it's like a foot doctor or a or a dentist or whoever just kind of suit the needs of whoever decides to to rent the space or purchase the space. So you're not marketing it to a specific customer or No. Uh it's literally just going to be built as a shell. We're going to market as a a built a design build to to the suit the needs of whoever wants to fill the space. So thank you. Yep. And will all the residential be uh kept together as a one owner or are you selling those off as

for the moment? Yes. We plan on keeping all of the the residential units um and renting them out. But uh for right now, no, we don't have any intention of selling any of the residential spaces. And then the the business area, are you leasing that or owning? Our intention is to lease it, but we we would like the option to be able to sell that if if if we need to. Yeah, great. Thank you. Yep. Okay. And would it would this amendment allow the units to be separated later or they're all individual? So, both commercial and residential would all be condominium plan, not just the

correct. Yeah, they would all be individual units. And and to clarify, I guess with the question on uses, I I brought this up here to show you what the permitted uses are in the zone. probably no automotive maintenance in there, but uh otherwise generally these uses as well as the conditional uses as they would apply. Those are the types of uses we're looking at. Thank you. Great. Well, thank you. Okay. And we we've closed that public hearing. Now we'll um take a motion to approve this plat amendment.

Yeah, I can make a motion. I move the planning commission approve the request of Tanner Preston for the plat amendment called Heritage um Lane Commercial Plaza PUD. Uh second amendment on property located at 1759 West 1700 South containing 0 4 acres in the MXD zone. Second. Okay, we have a a motion and a second. Motion from Peter and a second from Blake. All in favor? Hi. Hi. Hi.

Passes. And thank you, James. We also we had excused James King, but he's on the phone with us now. So, James is with us online. Thank you. Okay. And this passes. Okay. Thank you. Next is a discussion motion for a final plat. And we will um turn it over to you. This is a request by Ovation Homes for approval of their final plat for phase three of Sades Glenn. All right. So, in terms of the actual plat, this is the fourth uh plat for this uh subdivision, but uh phase 5A was was added um previously. So, let's see. I think I got my pages mixed up here. Does the platin not?

Uhhuh. Yeah, I didn't see the platin.

Well, my apologies. Uh, let me pull up the the file here. There. It's Yeah, number. All right, here we go. So, for phase three, uh, this will just continue the north south road that went through phase one. So, north is or sorry, it's going to be heading heading west, east, west. My apologies. Um, but basically just a mixture. We've got a couple of town home uh uh properties here and then there's going to be single family with uh similar to uh the phase to the west. They've got a shared driveway here that's going to serve these lots. So, pretty pretty straightforward. We've got some open space like we've had in the previous phases. Um, these apparently have been selling pretty well, so they've been moving quickly through the subdivision. Um, but yeah, this one is a relatively small phase in comparison to the ones we've had so far. But, uh, everything that has been submitted meets all the requirements of the city code and all of the staff comments have been addressed. So, we would recommend approval. Uh Royce, where for this uh set of four that's in the upper right hand corner, where's the parking? Is there designated parking for that or is there they have garages?

That is a good question. So, uh they have a limited common area driveways here and so they've got garages that they uh they approach and then there's the the doorway entrances there. But the same with the rest of these, all of these uh where it's surrounded by common space, the driveways are going to be a limited common area there that they could park in potentially uh or not. I guess it's really up to them. Thank you. And did remind me did we require that they be a full parking stall there that like the full 20 foot depth and they meet that or

Yeah, let's see. I'll zoom in here. So for these ones, they they're set at 25. So they've they do have adequate depth uh for the parking uh with the exception of these in this private drive area. So the the parking that's required for for these homes uh is going to be the two parking units, which they have a twocar garage in each one of these units. So it meets the parking requirement. Um but yeah, I mean if if the planning commission is concerned about that, I suppose that's something we could address here. But these are these driveways are not the full uh 20 foot depth because they've got this private drive which is uh making up for that lack of depth is that and that curb that driveway is there's not curb and gutter there that's just all the same level right so that be poking out too. Okay.

Yeah there I mean there is concrete curbing here but it's kind of like a rollover curb. and the other uh phases have had that same correct. Yeah, great question. Other questions, commissioners? Okay. And then this is the final plat for phase three of Sades Glenn subdivision. So we can take a motion. I'll make a motion.

Yeah, it's right there on the computer for you, too. I move the planning commission approve the request of Ovation Homes for a final plat called Sades Glenn phase 3 on property located at 2680 West 2495 South containing 3 and 1/2 acres in the PRD z excuse me in the PRD zone. I'll second it. And we have a motion from Blake and a second from Scott for approval. All in favor? I I

And any oppose? Thank you, James. Okay, that passes unanimously. Um, next on our agenda is discussion and motion for the final plat. Again, another final plat requested by Brock Johnston, and this is for approval of the final plat for the Greens at Glenn Eagle subdivision. All right, so this one, uh, let's see here. This was the infill development. We did a reszone there, uh, several months ago now. and uh they completed a a preliminary plat, but because it was over the 10 lots, our code requires anything 10 or more uh to go through both the preliminary and final plat process um with a a limitation on 30 lots per phase. So, they were allowed to do all of this in in one phase. So, essentially takes care of the whole subdivision. Um uh for I believe Commissioner Shay had asked when we were doing the preliminary plat whether the uh the new low volume or the new local cross-section will be utilized here and our our uh city engineer determined that would not be the case uh based on the context. So what's shown here uh matches our old uh ride ofway standard. But um these lots is kind of a hybrid zoning. There's R2 density, R3 lot standards. So, the lots are narrower than and a little bit uh well, I guess mostly just narrower really. Um we got a couple that are that are smaller, but also some significantly larger lots. Um but the density is is an R2 density, which is like what's surrounding. So, um, but yes, what was what was, uh, put together here, this meets all the requirements of the code and all the city staff comments have been addressed as well. So, we'd recommend approval.

Hey, gentlemen, any questions?

Do you know off the top of your head what the frontage is required on culde-sac? Yeah. So, these are going to be an 80 foot lot width. And the lot width in our code is going to be measured at 25 ft back. So, like for example, lot five here, roughly there. And you're going to follow the the curve of the front property line. So, so they do meet the the requirements of the code even if the actual curve at the property line would maybe narrower. Any other questions? Okay. And then we'll take a motion.

I make a motion that we approve. A second. I can second. Okay. We have a motion from Commissioner Nelson and a second from Commissioner Sheay for approval. Um, all in favor? I. Any opposed? That passes. Thank you. And now, um, I will take a motion to adjourn the regular meeting. Motion to adjurnn. Second. Okay. We'll adjourn now into And all in favor? Hi.

Hey, we'll adjourn now to the work session for first on our work session is the city council leaison report.

Welcome. Thank you for the new faces. I'm Paul Watson. I'm on the currently serving on the Syracuse City Council and I'm lucky enough to be the liaison for the planning commission. Um we just had one item that we voted on in our last business meeting. Um and that was the um where do we go? Oh, amending our Syracuse M municipal code pertaining to accessory dwelling units which you all um discussed and we did uh amend that per your recommendations including some of that uh parking language that you guys added. So great.

Yep. So that has been approved and that was pretty much it as far as planning items go. That was pretty easy then. With that one at all. Any brought up any concerns? No. Thanks, Paul. Thank you. Okay. And our city attorney's not here tonight. Correct. Okay. And I don't have any uh messages from him to pass on.

And uh personally, I too want to thank Golden for being here tonight. I always appreciate your comments on the on our plans and everything. For those who don't know, this is our um far marshall and he looks through all our plans to make sure we're meeting the parking requirements, fire hydrants, water supply, um really looks over those things really well. So, um it's just a reminder, please read through your packet and there's good information there for us all. Okay. Um upcoming agenda items, Noah.

All right. So, coming up here, uh in August, that'll be in three weeks. Uh we have uh there's a there was a property that was applied for there uh at Analopee Station which is that subdivision on the northwest corner of 3000 and Analopee. Actually, let me pull up my map kind of help explain things. Uh there's a site plan application we received. It's uh this piece of property here. There's a few uh subdivision. There's subdivision few properties in here is this one. We were also or we re received an application for a property here. We did a arc for that. We're still waiting for updated plans, but if we get those in before next week, uh we will be looking at that site plan. Um we also have another subdivision

north of the Chevron station. Sorry, what? That's directly north of the Chevron.

Correct. Yeah, the one that's on that was planned for the corner. Yes. And then we also have a subdivision application. This is the corner of 2700 and 2000. Uh this property they've they've applied to split this into a a commercial subdivision which would essentially be this this entire northern piece and a little section down here. Um so again pending getting that back from them. Uh we also have and this is a relatively minor one the Glen Eagle uh reception center that's being built here currently. they they want to expand some parking over here. And so it would just be the parking portion. So that would be a site plan amendment. Um and then we've also received some applications. There's a concept plan for a reasonzone that we just did uh up here for single family residential. Uh we also received phase three down here off of 2700 uh for the Park West pro or that's right, Park West uh project. And that would just be for where the old RC Willie parking lot used to be. They they have a plan as part of the preliminary plat to fill that in with some homes. Um we also received the first phase of the Salt Rock project, which is this parcel here. Um so that would just be phase one. And then we also back up to this subdivision received an application for an oil change uh place here just west of where that chevron was approved. But that's all we have for now. Okay. Anything else for the commissioners?

No. Thank you. And commissioner reports. Anything from your public interactions or meetings? Okay. Well, thank you, John. Enjoyed heritage days. Are you I enjoyed heritage days? Oh, it was great. Yeah. Always fun to see the things in the city and the parade and fireworks. I hope you all take opportunity to enjoy the things that are presented and um Okay, thank you. And then um we're ready to adjourn this meeting. Move to adjourn. Second. We've got a motion from Commissioner Sheay and a second from um Commissioner Anderson. All in favor? I I Okay,

we'll adjourn the meeting. Thank you everybody. Thank you everyone. Thanks James.