Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

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"All right, where are we at? We got two minutes."

Um, she's Is that right, Royce? We We are officially down like two members of the planning commission right now. Officially down two members. Yeah. Oh, yes. Yes. Okay. Uh you could be minus one and be okay.

You started that time. All right. Rice, you ready? Yes, sir.

All right. Let's go ahead and we'll bring to order uh the planning commission meeting for March 3rd, 2026. Um, call this meeting to order. The invocation will be offered by myself, Commissioner King, and we'll have the pledge of allegiance led by Commissioner Sheay. Our dear heavenly father, we're so grateful to be able to be gathered here as a commission to be able to make decisions and guide the direction of our city. We're grateful for the city that we live in and for the beauty and opportunities it provides to the citizenry. and we ask a blessing upon us that we'll be able to have the knowledge and foresight to be able to make the right decisions for the city. And with these things we pray in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen.

You please rise for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right. Thank you. We will move on to the adoption of tonight's agenda. Take a motion to adopt the agenda. It's been posted in accordance with state law. We have a motion. Do we have a second? Second. Second.

The uh agenda will be adopted. we will take into uh moving on to the meeting minutes for our meeting and work session for February 3rd, 2026. Uh barring any notes or changes, we'll take a motion to uh adopt those minutes. I make a motion that we adopt the minutes. Okay, motion. Do we have a second? Second. All in favor? I I I just realized we did not do a a a a vote for the adoption. Correct. Do we need a vote? Did you do it?

I don't think we did. Let's just do that. So, for the adoption of the agenda, all in favor?

I just in case. All right. Any opposed? Also, any opposed to the meeting agenda being the meeting notes from February 3rd being a topic. All right. Thank you. All right. We will be moving on to the public comment. This is an opportunity for the public to address the planning commission regarding items that are not scheduled for tonight's agenda. Um if you have any uh comments or concerns for anything that has a public discussion or hearing tonight, um I would ask that you would wait until that time to bring up those uh concerns or comments. Otherwise, if you have any concerns or comments tonight, please do so now and limit your comments to three minutes or less. Seeing none, we'll go ahead and close public comment and we'll move on to the public hearing for the revised site plan um at the 1550 West, 300 South. All right. So, the site plan is it's pretty straightforward. um it just because of the way the development agreement is is worded and also due to the fact that it is part of an approved site plan. It is an amended site plan but uh what's shown is basically just redistributing uh what's currently approved. So there we go. Uh, so I guess a little bit of history, there was a building that was originally planned to go here. Um, they decid they were not allowed to build the final building until the uh, hotel that was approved as part of the original development was built. Um, that hotel was relocated. There's been some market changes and so on and eventually they determined that they uh, just wouldn't build this final building. So, the amenities that were in a couple different locations are being moved

around. Um, so we used to have some pickle ball courts down here as we're moving up. Tot used to be up there. It's now down here. So, nothing's being removed. Um, the landscape density is uh similar. I think it's slightly more dense. I didn't go through and count every single plant, but it's uh it's definitely that on the same level as the previous landscape plan. Um, so, um, yeah, that's pretty much it really. We we do have a detention basin area here that currently exists, uh, and is operational and this area for parking is also currently existing. So, it would just be an installation of landscaping in this area. Um the project is still under construction though, so they're working on finalizing a couple buildings at the moment, but um the uh the actual amenity area here will just be constructed as the project moves along. So um but again, it's it's a little it's a little tricky because it's not something we go through and explicitly break down every little thing uh to determine if it's meets the code and whatnot. We just needed to make sure that the number of amenities was the same, which it is. Uh we need to make sure that the uh size and intensity of the amenities was the same, which it is. And uh that the landscape plan is still in line with what was already approved, which it is. So based on that, we'd recommend approval of the amendment.

And we will go ahead and this is uh slated for a public hearing tonight. We will go ahead and open up public hearing at this time. Um, again, we ask that if there are any comments that we keep the comments to three minutes or less. Is there anybody online? We do have one person, but I don't I don't see any request for speaking yet. Perfect. Thank you. So, I don't know how to send in a request for speaking. This is my first time. Nope. This that that works. We may want to turn you up a little bit, though. Um, We got a We've got somebody at the uh at the podium right now. We'll get to them right after. Yep. Can you hold on until uh until this other person has spoken?

Yep. No problem. Okay. Thanks. Thank you. Um for the record, if you could state your name and address. Parkerwood. Address is 610 North 800 West in uh Centerville. I'm the applicant and here to address any questions you may have. Okay, perfect. So actually we'll have you come back up um after because this is just for the public at this time and if we have any questions we can give a more broad discussion with you. Very good. Thank you.

I think Royce is just turning up the speaker but Mr. Chair if you want to call on the person here. All right. Yeah. Person who's online if you could state your name and address. Right. Yeah. My name is Brian Edwards. Uh my address is 1475 West 400 South in Syracuse. Okay. And did you have some comments for this particular item then?

Yeah. Um I mean I just want to know what the changes were. I'm glad to see what the changes are. We live right next to the development here. Um I am curious. Does this change the parking? Like are we will there is there enough parking and for the residents that will be moving in there? Like is that going to affect anything with the parking over there? And do you have any other questions or concerns? That's really it. I just want to make sure that the parking is fine. Perfect. All right. We uh as a commission, we'll have the opportunity to engage with our city staff about that and hopefully be able to answer that question uh as soon as we're done. That's correct.

Uh barring any other comments from public, we'll go ahead and close public hearing now. Um, we'll bring it up to the commission for comments, questions. Um, we'll start with that with the parking. Um, I'm assuming that based on everything, it seems like everything stayed the same. Yes. Yeah. So, uh, the parking will remain the same. The parking is is the area is currently constructed. Again, they're still working through the project, but the original number of parking stalls that was originally approved with the project for the number of units that were approved, which again remains the same, uh, is is going to continue. So, no reduction in parking.

Perfect. And then the question I just want to pose and you you did answer, but I just kind of want to officially kind of get it confirmed. This still all fits within the the development agreement and the and the original site plan and everything. Yes, it does. Okay, perfect. Royce, one question. As I've looked at this site quite often, um it looks like the number of single family homes on the drawing you just showed us, that's the site plan. Um I think there's 11 homes here, but I don't think there's going to be 11 there now from what I could see on the

Oh, yeah. So they they are currently working on building these now and they were just working on every other one right now at the moment just because of the space it makes a little easier. Still the same. Yes. Okay. Thank you. All right. Um if you'd like to come back up to the podium, we'll have an opportunity for commissioners to ask any questions. Does anybody have that question? I just as asked mine and so if you want to add to that, you're just building every other home now until

That's right. They're uh just because they're pretty tight, it makes it easier for the construction team to spread them out a little more. And then to Brian's question earlier, this was approved for 201t total units. There will now be 176. So, the parking stalls have remained the same, but there'll actually be more per uh unit that's on the site now because that last building that was approved is no longer getting built. So, um it should actually increase the availability of parking. Great. Good. All right. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Um additional concerns or we'll take a motion

with the driveways. I know it's been a little while and we've changed the driveway depth. How do the driveways for those single units allow for a vehicle to be parked outside of the garage but off the street still? That is a good question. I I don't know that off top of my head. Um I would have to measure that and I don't have the tools available at the moment. So I I would assume it's 20. Well, I guess we can sort of guesstimate. So these these parking stalls are 9 by 20. So, if you look at that depth there, it I mean, just eyeballing it, that looks deeper to me. Yeah, it's pretty close. I just Yeah,

when it gets gets less than 20, you start putting bumpers over the sidewalks. So, yep, that's correct. That applicant, you know, if that's that they're 20 ft deep. Okay, great. We'll take a motion if you ready. I'll make a motion. I move the planning commission approve the request of Eric Graves for a revision of a site plan at approximately 1550 West 300 South. The proposed site comprises approximately 8.906 acres in the mixed zone. All right. Thank you, Commissioner Garner. We have a motion. Do we have a second?

Second. Have a second. All in favor? I I Any opposed? Motion passes. Moving on to the next item. This is discussion. A motion for a final plat um for the Lakeside flat located at 2815 South 2000 West. Scroll through all of the info here. Just FYI, very large packets.

Yeah. If you're ever curious about the length of these, this is more for archaeological purposes. Uh I I as a planner over the years many times have had to go back and look at a previous packet or just previous information about an approved item and there's like five sentences and then you're left to extrapolate whatever. So it the detail it's it's for my I guess uh whatever the opposite of predecessor is. All right. So let's see this. So Lakeside Flat here. Uh this is going to be directly south of the uh uh Westlake Landing subdivision, the commercial one. Um so that this is just single family uh R3 down there. They um currently, let's see, the the only uh question that I had come up and this was just another member of staff. So, if you're curious, uh buffering along this one, we we've got standard buffering on the west side against the West Davis corridor, center buffering on the south side with the residential and and a little bit of the east here. uh but where it buffers the commercial uh we we just have an agreement there with the commercial developer to put in the final version of the commercial uh buffer. So that's going to be the 6T pre-cast concrete privacy fence, 15 ft buffer, the two trees every 50 ft, 10 shrubs every 50. So it's pretty uh pretty straightforward as if this stuff already existed. Um but that just makes it so that we don't have ambiguity in the future. um we don't have people putting in fences and then having another wall put up and it's doubled up and just creates issues. So, uh that's the only thing that's kind of out of the ordinary with this one. Um everything else is I mean that is also good to go, but everything meets requirements of the code. All the staff comments have been

addressed. Um so we'd recommend approval. Thank you. All right. This is not up. This does not have a public hearing. So, we'll just have discussion with the commission. And

one one question, um, there is a a on the drawings, it shows an existing 30-foot easement to the property to the north as it it's going through that lot one and then it ends as it gets into this. Is that easement going away? Because that's going through the middle of that future pickle ball kingdom. And so then is do we not need to worry about that easement or has that easement been taken care of? I I just I was looking at that thinking what why do why is this easement here and then it doesn't continue?

Yeah, so that easement currently exists on the property but it will be removed by this plat. So any any easement actually um when we put it together any sort of plat at a final level that's going to be recorded with the county um if it's an existing easement that is to remain it has to be shown on the plat at this point. So, the fact that it's not on there um shows we're not going to we're not going to record it. So, that easement was created for access um for the previous property owner so they could get around the property. Okay.

And did we I know just that the north end of lot one. Did we get a final decision on how that was going to look with you got the easements, but then you're you're butdding up against the is that going to be a fence? Is that going to be the concrete or how how did that end up? Yeah. Yeah. So, so again, the any any of these boundaries here against the Westlake Landing subdivision, all of those are going to be the sixoot concrete privacy fence uh with the landscaping on the commercial side. So, basically, these folks will just have a a pre-cast con stone uh pattern wall in their backyard on their property line.

Okay. And then I guess with that the the back side of lot eight. Yeah. So, that one it's going to really just depend on how this is oriented. If it's uh for some reason oriented to the west, I guess that changes the buffer. So, and and these buffers are going to be installed sort of per uh site. It's not going to be all at once, I would imagine, unless they decide to do it that way. But yeah, this one where there's some ambiguity on this section, um I I would guess that we'll probably wait and see what law 8 site plan looks like. Okay.

All right. There's a motion. We'll make a motion. Thank you. I move the planning commission approve the request of Ed Green for approval of the final plat for Lakeside Flat located at approximately 2815 South 2000 West. Subdivision comprises approximately 9.217 acres in the R3 zone. Thank you, Commissioner Baker. We have a motion. We have a second. I'll second. We have a second. All in favor? I.

Any opposed? Motion passes. We will now take a motion to adjourn to work session. All right. Um, all in favor? I. All right. We are adjourned to work session. Thank the public for comments and concerns. Department of Business, City Council Leazison. Oh, I was expecting for the last time. Sure. So, sorry last time, but we know. Yeah, I know. We know it's I

I'm helping Abe this one last time just because there's a couple things we didn't do last time. So, we do have a couple of updates from our last business meeting on a couple of planning items um that we voted on. So, we had an ordinance to change the zoning map um at 2300 west and 1700 south from from R2 and agricultural A1 to light commercial. Um applicant was Leisure Villas. So, we did approve that that zone change which matched what you guys did. That's kind of the area there to the south of the Walmart um which is going light commercial because it butts up against residential on the on the south side. And then we had a um we had another reszone um that we approved which was uh 963 south 2000 west from agriculture A1 to residential R3 um which is the CW land development on 2000 west with the big tree in the middle of it that they're salvaging. And so again we followed your recommendation approved that uh zone change. So, those are the two updates that I had for you.

Thank you. Okay. Awesome. Thanks. Well, be missed. Very much appreciated. Thank you. I'll keep you here as long as excuses. City attorney, how are you? Good. How are you? Well, we were trying to bring my PowerPoint presentation up, but we are struggling in doing that. So, we're going to talk about open and public meetings as though you could see my beautiful AI generated pictures, which you cannot. Doesn't sound very open. You have it on there already. Can you find it?

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alternate pad. Yes. All right, we have Royce. Please disregard the one person who has three arms. That's a problem with power with AI. You'll find it if you look. One really odd shaped right hand. Yes. Yeah. So, let's go through some questions if I can. Um,

we're running over there so I can see my notes. Sorry. I'm relatively new. I've only been here for two years. you you were you were sick for a for a good chunk of last year. So we we and that was the two months when we had all of the IT training too. It's amazing how that works. Yeah. Okay.

I have about 15 or so questions. Some of them won't apply so much to the planning commission because you don't do closed meetings, but you still have to learn about closed meetings. It's required by state law. So, we're going to talk about open meetings. You'll see a few closed meeting questions come up in the middle of this thing and you'll say, "Well, that doesn't apply to me." And that's good. But we'll do it anyway. So, question number one, which of the following is not a public body? The beautifification committee, the redevelopment agency, the city council, or the planning commission? Beautif. You say beautifification. Why do you think that is? Because the other ones, well, first of all, the last two are are and redevelopment agency. Well,

redevelopment agency is usually part of a city council group and it's an elected official that makes the decisions. It's open to the public for hearings. True. So, what is the definition of a public body in statute? It's an administrative, advisory, executive or legislative body of the state or of a political subdivision. It's got to be created by law. Is the planning commission created by law?

It is by state statute. It has to consist of two or more persons. We have that. It has to expend, disperse or be supported in whole or in part by tax money. This one is your staff pays gets paid to be here. You have the room, the power, and even the fantastic IT PowerPoint. And finally, it has to be vested with the authority to make decisions. And you're right, the beautifification committee, even if there is a beautifification committee, isn't being isn't making public decisions. So that's why it is not a public body.

Next, let's talk about what is a meeting? A meeting is a gathering up of a public body for what purpose? to receive public comment about a relevant matter, to deliberate about a relevant matter, to take action on a relevant matter, or anyone of the above. Be brave. Thank you, D. Anyone of the above. So, what is a relevant matter? It's a matter that is within within your scope of authority. So, if the planning commission were to hold a meeting tonight to talk about pumpkin walk 2026, would that be a relevant matter for this group?

Do you have any authority or regulatory authority over the pumpkin walk? You do not. So, it would not be a relevant matter. What if you met to deliberate and take action on a final plan approval like you just did? That is a relevant matter for the planning commission and therefore you have a meeting. All right. Next question. A meeting is a gathering of a public body with a quorum. How many members of the planning commission does it take to make the quorum?

Four or more. Quorum is simple majority. So even though there are currently only five members of the planning commission, you still have to have four to take any business. All meetings of a public body are open to the public. True or false? This one? Yes. How about public bodies in general?

No. So the answer would be false. State law requires meetings to be open unless they are closed. So all meetings start with the presumption that they will be open, but they can be closed for certain purposes. Those purposes are about a half a dozen or maybe a little more than a half a dozen and they're listed in state law. Do you ever hold a closed meeting? You do not. You could if you had a reason to, but you don't. True or false? A workshop is not open to the public. Let's say that the planning commission decided to jump in a minivan and drive over to the Costco development to see how things are going. Maybe look at whether the parking lot is being paved correctly or whether the lot sizes line up with the with the uh site plans that were approved. That would be a workshop or a field trip. Is that would that be a public meeting? It's a public meeting. You can't avoid having a public meeting by calling it something else. If you're going to go over there and talk about official business, it's a public meeting. Um, and it does take a quorum. So, if you go over there in groups of three, you're not having a public meeting. How much public notice is required for a public meeting? What's the minimum?

Oh, isn't it 24 hours? It's 24 hours. Yep. Uh there are exceptions for emergencies uh but generally the answer is 24 hours. Next, a public body may take final action on a relevant matter in a public meeting even if it's not on the agenda. True or false? False. False. If it is not on your agenda, you cannot take final action. Again, there are exceptions for emergencies, but they are few and far between. Written minutes are written minutes and recordings are required for open meetings, closed meetings, or all meetings.

All right, this is because you don't do closed meetings, but they're only required for open meetings. When you're in a closed meeting, there are exceptions. You don't have to keep a recording of a closed meeting. Um, and you don't have to have written minutes for a closed meeting. I'm sorry. You do have to keep a recording, but you don't have to have written minutes. Now, let me ask you a couple of grandma questions. Grandma is the Government Records Access Management Act. It's been around for about 30 years. It's the state's version of the Freedom of Information Act. Approved minutes, are they public records? Yes.

Pending minutes, minutes that have been drafted by staff, but you haven't yet approved them. Are they public records?

Interesting. They are. And recordings are recordings public records. They are. A closed meeting may only be held if blank of the members of the public body present vote to close. At least a majority. Everyone who's present. At least twothirds or at least one half. It's twothirds. Again, you don't hold closed meetings, so I wouldn't expect you to know the but twothirds of the members who are present. So, if there's seven members on the planning commission, how many would have to be voting to close the meeting if all seven are present?

Four. Yep. If there are three members of the planning commission present, how many would vote to close the meeting? A trick question. You can't have a meeting. That is a trick question. You wouldn't be having a meeting if there were only three of you here. Very good. You It's almost like you're reading the notes. Yeah. Okay. A meeting or been paying attention for the last few or last few years in some cases. A meeting may be closed to discuss the character, professional competence or physical or mental health of an individual. True or false?

True. A lot of folks will say that you can close a meeting to discuss employee issues or personnel issues, but it's more specific than that. It's not just employee issues in general. It's character, professional competence, or physical or medical health. So, if you wanted to, if you were the city council and you wanted to have a discussion about whether or not to close this building on Christmas Eve, that's kind of an employee issue because the employees would be affected by your decision. They'd either show up to work or they wouldn't. But even though it is an employee issue, it's not character, professional competence, or mental or physical health. If the city council wanted to have a meeting and say, "We're going to change the design of the logo on all of the Syracuse employees outfits, shirts, uniforms, whatever." Again, that's kind of an employee issue. It affects the employees, but it doesn't fit our qualifications for a closed meeting. Let's skip these closed meeting questions. Here we go. A public body may not hold electronic meetings unless it has adopted an ordinance that allows and governs electronic meetings. That's right out of state statute. You can't do an electronic meeting unless you have an ordinance that says you can and sets forth the criteria. So the question is, has Syracuse City adopted such an ordinance?

Yeah. Oops. Indeed they have. How much public notice is required for an electronic meeting? Minimum 24 hours.

24 hours. The rules are exactly the same. And that's by our city ordinance. How many members of the planning commission can meet together outside of a planning commission meeting to predetermine an action to be taken by the planning commission? Can five of you get together and say, "We're going to talk about this final plat approval, but we have these questions and then we'll vote to approve it." I would think that it would have to be and I was actually gonna ask this. I thought it was actually less than two like but we would have to have a quorum. So three or fewer

three or fewer as long as you don't have a quorum you can meet together talk together and so forth in exchange but you can't do it with a quorum which in your case would be four. Can a planning commission member legally text other members about a relevant matter during the meeting? No. It's not because it's not on the official record.

That the correct answer. You can text each other all you want. You can send emails all you want, but when the meeting starts, the texting stops. True or false? A court can void an action taken in violation of the Open and Public Meetings Act and can award attorney's fees and costs to the prevailing plaintiff.

True. I should have checked into this. I heard on the radio today that in fact the Utah court did exactly that today. They ruled they voided some action taken by a public body. So this is hot off the press today. And I should have looked at that so I could give you more facts about it, but apparently you can catch it on the news this evening. A planning commission member who knowingly or intentionally violates a law governing close meetings can be charged with a crime. True.

True. If you negligently do it, it's not a crime. If you knowingly or intentionally doing it is a crime. It's a class B misdemeanor. The maximum fine for a class B misdemeanor is 1,850 bucks and six months in jail. So if you need an extended vacation, you now know how to go about that. Three square meals a day. And that's Oops. That's all I've got for you. So, thank you for your participation and uh and your absolutely correct hours except for a couple of those close meeting things which you really wouldn't be expected or need to know. Anyway, good job. Thank you, Colin. Thank you, Colin.

While you guys are getting resituated, Colin, I did have a question for you on that. What uh who did the court do that to Yeah, when you when you heard it on the news? I I I I I I may have a personal qu investment in that question. That's why I'm asking. The answer is I don't know. Um I just heard the blurb on the radio and I didn't check into it. I should have. Okay. And Colin, I heard it was part of a closed meeting that Yeah. Somehow they didn't do correctly. So yeah, I I did it did have something to do with incorrectly conducting a closed meeting when they should or shouldn't have or something they handled in the closed meeting that they didn't that they shouldn't have. But I don't know the details. I'm sure you can find it on Google it this evening.

Cool. What I should have done for you. Sorry. No, no, no problem. Appreciate it. All right. Uh, thank you, Colin. We'll move on to upcoming agenda items. All right. So, we uh we kind of received a Well, I guess before I get into it, so March 17th uh with the political caucuses has been cancelled. So, if you're really looking forward to coming on the 17th, I apologize, but go to your caucuses if that's your thing. I know Paul was looking forward to the meeting. Yes.

Um, all right. So, we do have uh actually quite a few things going on right now. So, I'm going to pull up a map here and kind of give you an idea of where we're at. So, we we have a site plan still waiting for the uh the Sim City project. I believe that's going to be rebranded. I think they have a new tenant, but we'll see. So, that's here. 2,2700. Um, see, we have the Commons at Glenn Eagle, which we I think we're we're just about there, but um that's right here. Commercial subdivision. Um, Falcon Landing for Perry Homes. They just resubmitted actually and and they're up here. So, just more single family like this neighborhood essentially just an extension. So, we should be seeing that one soon. Uh got Rocky Mountain Wellness, which is just west of us here. So, City Hall across the street. Looks like they're getting closeish on that one. So, that one's a site plan for a multi-story commercial building for office space. um revised PLA or plan for take five oil. They're just expanding their building slightly. Um should be seeing that one soon.

Royce, while you're there, is there anything going on with the corner? It's going to be the corner. This one, a 7-Eleven, is that still progressing? Uh to my understanding, I I don't think we trying to think if they've started on that one. I don't think so yet. They they pulled out the other foundation because they're going to build a different uh building footprint, but there there has been some I drive past that every single night. My house is just west of that. So, um there has been some work that that has been done, but as far as any building there is not.

Yeah, there tells me they're working on their building permit currently. So, I'd imagine once that's finalized, they'll get going on it. Um let's see. Got an addition here with Syracuse Arts. It should be pretty run-of-the-mill, but we're just working out some some minor kinks with that one. Should have that for you also soon. Um, let's see. The property just west of the Glenn Eagle Golf Course that they're going to be putting the strip mall thing in right there probably. Yeah, it's that's starting. Um, so we'll we'll have to get the plat through first, but uh yeah, hopefully soon. I saw the sign to them. So,

Oh, okay. Yeah, I'd imagine they're probably looking to get those properties sold. We'll probably see individual site plans on on each parcel.

Um, we also have an application for a gas uh inbridge gas facility here. Um, that's just a site plan. It's it's fairly substantial, so we we do need to take it through the process, but um let's see. We also have Dutch Brothers that has applied here just to the west of the waffle stop. Um that one we're just we're just waiting on some updated plans but should also have that soon. Salt R Salt Rock uh phase one is currently here. They're working on that. Phase two has applied which is roughly this area. So um just more of the same. We should see that plat come in here in the next little bit. Um, we received an application for the lone tree subdivision up here. So, this will be a preliminary plat. Um,

you said they're trying to salvage that tree. Uh, yes. Yeah, we're going to require them to to salvage that. Otherwise, there'd be no tree subdivision, right? Yeah. Hopefully. I mean, at one point it they they was twin pines uh mall. Mhm. Developers do have a habit of naming subdivisions after the things that they they know they can plant more trees than just that one. They're not restricted, right?

See, we we also received uh so for this West Lake subdivision, I believe it's this one, but it may be across the street. I'd have to look at it. We just received these yesterday. There's a there's Premier Dance and Rocky Mountain Tumbling. uh just two buildings in here. Um we also received a site plan for holiday oil on this corner and there's going to be a subdivision plan associated with that one. It's going to create some additional lots um that won't be holiday oil. So we'll see a probably separate site plans on those going to interrupt for a second. Yes.

No. Are there any provisions part of the city code or anything that increases the buffer size when you're near trail systems?

Uh, nope. There is not currently anything. Um, you know, we we would well, we'd like to see the trail system go through and right now it's it's just a matter of what's called exa exactions. uh for those who are familiar when when somebody comes in to uh to build, you know, they're they're going to have to improve the road out here and so on. So, the the trail is a bit beyond that. So, um we're just looking at at trying to figure that out. So, doing an additional buffer where it's not in the code is probably not not in the cards for that. But, I don't love this beautiful trailside park just ending at the Holiday Gas Station.

Yeah. Yeah. And it and it will continue. The trail is going to go on the north side of this subdivision. Unfortunately, there isn't enough room under here to continue that at that point, but but it does then officially continue and head south here. So, so there will be a a trail system connection and and the south side is trail in L of sidewalk essentially on 2700 through there. But there there's no way to constrain that tenant to have additional buffer space or more vegetation density or anything like that on that corner. Not in the code currently, no. They're they're required to address a buffer uh for the fact that this is a collector or arterial road here,

but other than that, no. But that that's something we can look into if that's something we feel would be would be a good idea. uh currently that roundabout is not considered our serial collector or are you counting that as well? Uh so both 2700 and 200 or 2000 would would have that designation. So but yeah, like I said, if if that's something that we feel like we want to address at some point, we can. Um you know, we we don't have a lot of situations where a trail is is kind of sandwiched between a road and a and a commercial development, but uh it could happen. uh could happen again. So, it' be a nice thing to address if we want to do that. Um, does that answer your question though?

Yeah, it does. Okay. All right. The final uh final thing is Earth Works that was approved here uh last year. They they've constructed their building uh constructed it not according to plan. So, they're going to come back and request that we uh approve what's been built. Um, so I I need to address or I need to review it and determine what what has been built meets the code, but it looks like it might. So either way, um, we'll bring that one to you soon here as well, but that's all we have for now. Perfect. Thank you, Commissioner Reports.

I just had one comment actually. Uh I was I was at the Lehwab in uh Clinton today and I was talking to some an employee working there. She was giving me a ride back home and we passed by uh well right next to that Lewab there's a building being built and asked her about it and she complained about I don't know why the planning commission is allowing all this stuff and she kind of had a bone to pick with how things were being planned there. So, I just took it to heart that what we do is noticed in the community. The integrity of the community matters to people. They don't want just hodge podge, you know, buildings and offices and everything just all mixed together. Uh it's planning, right? It's got to there's got to be a cohesive to cohesiveness to it to make it a a good place to live.

Agree. Yeah. And that's part of our master plan. and we try to really stick close to that. So, right. All right. Uh, barring anything else, we'll take a motion to adjurnn. Move to adjurnn. All in favor? I We are adjourned. We'll see you guys next