Common Council - workshop

Good afternoon. We're going to start our study session. Thank you for joining us today.

Are there any resolutions? No. Okay, so moving from there. Councilor Cudwell.

I have items of 11 and 12, and this was, we had a public hearing Monday at 5.30 regarding naming Mr. Barnett and Mr. Gunn, Homer Wheaton, and Magnarelli, Senator Court, after Mr. Barnett, and we had several people come out and speak about high net. It was really nice, and I'm looking forward to it, but we're all set. Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Councilor .

Thank you, Madam President. I have item 13 to 42. Is Eric here for item 13?

Go ahead. It's still Magnarelli Center.

The center is called Magnarelli. But it's the Magnarelli Center. All set?

Yeah. All set? All right. What updates do you have for us?

Can we go back a little bit? Is Joe here? I'm sorry about this.

Nobody want me to do anything today.

Oh, my goodness. All right, we'll wait and talk to Joe about it. Okay, go on. I want to talk to him about this. Do you want to do that off the mic? I'll just wait to Joe because, yeah. Should we go back to Joe? Because I probably need to be on record.

Okay. Thank you.

Now, we should. Can I move on? Thank you. Yes, go. I can? Yes. All right.

Eric um item 13 we have been meeting trying to figure out some stuff have we where are we correct yeah so uh so based on uh good afternoon counselors Eric on us with the mayor's office um based on the latest feedback that we've received so we are presenting uh and we'll be submitting a revised version of the document that outlines the changes That's gonna incorporate some of the things we talked about, which include the restructuring of how the sidewalk closure, that first area, that first column of being more of a small building project of a three-story or less building. And then if you have more than four stories, it has the higher fee associated with those sidewalk closures that's renewed every 14 days. The other thing that we're doing is redefining the high density area. So this is based on our conversation about moving away from the business improvement districts focusing more on using zoning, so focusing more on an MX-4 and an MX-5 district that has the ability to expand and more broaden what is included in that high district classification. And then in a similar vein to that, on the violation side, based on the fact some of the feedback from counselors around the violations, anything in the higher density MX-4 and MX-5 will be subject to the higher violations if there are right-of-way violations as well. And so we'll submit that information. That'll be forthcoming, and then it will include the additional language that was proposed with the exception of any change of the 90-day closure timeline based on, again, feedback that we would not have language included in that for a vote for Monday's meeting. then i think the last piece is um for the current comstock closure um the fact that we are now there's a renewal of that that's needed we would do a waiver item that would come before for monday's vote for a 90-day extension and so that would be able to backdate us through june 30th from um and then and then and then on the bond side the letter of credit uh in in lieu of

REFUNDABLE PORTION. CORRECT.

THE OTHER THING WAS THE INDEXING OF FEES. THE INDEXING OF FEES AS WELL. THE INDEXING FEE AS WELL.

IS THE 90-DAY EXTENSION GOING TO BE UNDER THE NEW RULING?

correct so it would be under that new fee schedule would come into place it would be effective um i think immediately as long as soon as the ordinance goes into effect that's when that per day evaluation would start to be used um so so yes that would go into effect and then at the same time we'll do the 90-day closure do we have the letter for 90 days we're working on that right now so we're looking to get that submitted as soon as possible okay

Eric, I have a question that I just noticed today. I don't know if this was added or I just didn't catch it before, but there's something in there stating waivers for projects involving government entities. And it's my understanding that that has been used and abused in the past. so i just want to know what what do you consider that because that would mean like things like the aquarium or if osita were to give somebody a waiver then that would also include things like that tax breaks county grants anything like that would not then they would be considered government entities i think we would be losing a lot of revenue in the city if we do that

So an example I can give is particularly government including the city of Syracuse if the city is doing a roadway project that if ultimately there are for other government agencies particularly anything above the city of Syracuse like the state of New York or the county they are not subject to the same fee like the same permit application process some of those particularly for public agencies there is not the requirement to have to go through the same

Permitting process that private applicants do I understand that but if if a private applicant is given a grant by the county or by the state do that does that consider them a government entity because they receive grant funds from those places and

No, so I think in that case, we are talking about it really is primarily focused around if it's a public entity ultimately that is undertaking or doing the work associated with the right-of-way. And that is something where if it's a public agency that is doing that right-of-way work, that is where there would be, they're not subject to those same requirements.

Okay.

Any other questions here?

Eric, could you speak to the rationale behind having flat fees versus proportional fees? I'm worried that for larger projects, these fees are not prohibitive. And for smaller projects, they may be too prohibitive.

So in the flat fee, and I just want to confirm, are you related to lane closures and road closures?

Lane closures, road closures, the uprooting of trees or unauthorized tree removal.

So I think the tree point is one that we can also take a look at. I think my understanding is that some of the fees and I think this is more violations related maybe just to your question. Some of that is based on the number of inches within the trunk that's being torn down. So there is from a proportional standpoint of depending on how mature the tree is and obviously we want to disincentivize any of our mature tree canopy that we have. So some of that is built in.

So would the $300 be a max cap or would that be where we start? Um, and I'm sorry, I'm reading this wrong.

No, no, no, that's okay.

Um, the tree specific related fees. Let me go back and just make sure I have that understanding correct of the differentiation. I know that there is language included in there around that again per inch diameter. So that is. hundred dollars per diameter inch so yes i'm sorry i'm just i'm reading this to confirm your question but it is based on per diameter inch okay and is that the same for things like not installing maintaining pedestrian work zone traffic control so there are some of these fees that do are applied on a per day basis and i'm just trying to verify your question here So the ones that you're referencing right above that, those are also per day. So the intention here is I think that we're looking to make sure this is something that there is a straightforward way to administer this and that the table is then straightforward in how these are calculated. But there are some of these that do build that in based on the length of the violations. And then to your point about trees, there's a difference between a mature tree versus a new planting.

So basically how large a tree, because it takes resources to grow those trees, and depending on the size of that tree, right?

It was our city forestry team that directly weighed in at the time, and this is based on the current. Is Steve here? Steve Harris? I don't believe he is. But this was really designed to disincentivize and make it more costly if you are tearing down a mature tree, which of course we don't want to see happen.

And less necessary but so there that's what the sliding scale is based on how mature and how large the tree is and I'm just I'm asking because I don't want us in a situation where paying the violation for Unpermitted work or paying the violation for harm that the city would then have to remediate is going to be something that a project manager is willing to take on and I also want to make sure that if it costs us more than $300 per inch of trunk space to replace that tree that we are building that in.

Okay. All right. I do, so I think one of the things we have been trying to do is differentiate between smaller projects and then more larger scale developments. And I think we have, we talked about this in the committee meeting, but for single and two family, for small, you know, residents of the city.

I realize those are capped, right?

Yes, exactly. So we built in the cap to try to account for that too.

Other questions?

Thank you, Eric. We'll wait for that updated letter. Yeah, that information will be forthcoming, so thank you.

14 and 15 I guess they Go ahead Good afternoon councillors Mary Robinson City Engineer item 14 is a application to New York State DEC climate smart communities grant program to do a watershed equivalent study of Onondaga Creek and hydraulic and modeling flood risk mitigation alternatives and associated cost estimates. It's a total cost of $420,000 with a 20% local match, which is 70,000 local. This is an ongoing effort to try and implement flood mitigation projects along the creek and thereby reduce the number of people in the 100-year floodplain so that they don't have to pay flood insurance okay how i remember when i was a district council in the valley you know the creek around they used to you know when water rise is it used to cause problem up there how is that is that still going on now mary well we did do a project on colebrook yeah right right a couple years ago and that has helped that has helped um but that's my next um grant application as well but this one we did a study on arsenal park which is down in the valley but that was a very the study we did um in order to implement that project it was a very costly project and didn't have uh it had a high excuse me high cost benefit ratio so we're we need to look at different More alternatives. So this is an effort to do that.

This would strictly be for studying, not infrastructure work at all? Correctly, studying. Okay.

Flood mitigation, flood study.

All right.

Questions? Questions?

All right, 15.

This is also a grant application with the sea water quality improvement program and the amount not to exceed $3 million for. hydraulic study and design for the replacement of the cold brook culverts at EDNA road parish lane and oakley drive, so this is. Design and construction okay.

Has the town of Onondaga ever fixed their part? Because it was causing problems right there. Yes, they did.

They did fix their part, yep.

Okay.

Along Edna Lane, just upstream of Edna Lane, they put in a small wall.

Okay, okay. That's good. Questions? 16?

16 is a one-on-one sanitary offset project for lining an 18-inch combined sewer and two manholes on the 300 block of Lexington Ave to be completed by the Parkside Commons Venture LLC. And this is to meet the county's sanitary sewer offset as a result of the project.

Mary, just going back to 14 and 15, how are you guys gonna be notifying residents of whatever work is gonna be happening?

Well, 14 is just a study, and there would be a public component to both projects if the grant is awarded.

I thought we already did a study.

We did a study in the Arsenal Park area but that's a project the costs came back very high and the benefit cost ratio is very high so it's not really a feasible project that would qualify for grant funding because the benefits are much lower than the cost.

And are we able to take any of those? Any of those?

Yeah, we'll be able to take some of that study work and extend it further to look at different types of mitigation work and more evaluation. Yes.

Okay.

Other questions? 17?

17 is the regional market mobility improvement projects. We're requesting to amend an agreement with Fisher Associates to add the final design services in the amount not to exceed $300,000, total cost not to exceed $594,000. And this one gets 80% federal reimbursement.

Okay.

I have a question. Go ahead, Mark.

So on this project, though, there are plans for a new business coming in the area, right, Burnt Dairy. So is this being done with Burnt Dairy coming in into the regional market area, or is that going to be separate from what we are doing here?

Is that within the market or adjacent to the market?

It's going to be adjacent. It's going to be off the NBT Parkway, so you're going to make it right into the regional market, but this area has already been... is the space is available for the burn dairy, which is gonna be a cost from the regional transportation center.

Okay, so this project is really bike and pedestrian improvements to get to the market. So we will take the information regarding the proposed burn dairy, but we won't be doing work within the market. It's only work within our street right of way.

I understand that, because I did speak with Bill Fisher, and we were talking about the improvements. So I agree we're going to have to make wider improvements, because that is utilized from baseball to going to the regional market and to the transportation center as well.

Wonderful.

Yep. Just go ahead.

So, Councilor, Michael Collins, Commissioner for Neighborhood and Business Development. We have just recently had a pre-development meeting with the market regarding the burned dairy project. So engineering is getting tied in to the pre-planning part of it. So from a permitting standpoint, we will ensure that engineering is tied in the entire way. Thank you. Sure.

All set, Marty? Yeah, thank you. All right. Mary, item 19.

18, aren't we on 18? Oh, 18, 18. 18 is the East Colvin Street paving project from Comstock Ave to East City Line. This is to add the construction inspection services in the amount not to exceed $438,500. This is being reimbursed with federal funds and Marcheselli funds. And it's out to bid.

It's out to bid, but not planned to start during move-in week for SU, correct? I thought we would start then. That'd be perfect. Wonderful. Thank you, Mary.

What's that? It would probably start in the fall.

When it says the city line, Mary, when it says the city line, are you talking about going to a Seneca term?

Nottingham Road. Oh, that way. Yep. Comstock. through the SU neighborhood.

Oh, okay, I thought it was signed off. Okay, all right, thank you.

What's that? Item 19.

Item 19 is our negative declaration for the seeker for Creek Walk Phase 3. There's a typo in the book. It should be Creek Walk Phase 3.

I WAS JUST ASKING BRIAN TO LOOK IT UP AND I WASN'T ABLE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH JOE TO VERIFY. WE AUTHORIZED THREE, RIGHT?

OH, YEAH. OKAY. YEAH, FOR PRELIMINARY DESIGN. OKAY. AND SHOULD BE MOVING TO DETAILED DESIGN. FUNDING IS FULLY IN PLACE. 20 is a revocable permission to SU. They would like to do a study and install five sewer sensors in five city catch basins and cameras to monitor urban flooding. So when there's a storm, the sensors will go in the catch basin below the grate. And when there's a storm where the sewers are starting to back up through the catch basin, this system would notify us and track the flooding issues. And it's a six month trial. We're installing five units at Harvard Place and Fellows is the first, Rich Street is the second, South Abb and MLK is the third, Maltby Street is the fourth, and the fifth is Spencer Street and Hiawatha Boulevard.

Are they absorbing all the cost to implement this?

I'm sorry?

Are they absorbing all of the cost?

Yes. No cost to the city.

And where specifically is this, Mayor?

At the intersections that I just read. Harvard and Fellows, Rich, South and MLK, Maltby, and Spencer and Hiawatha. Areas that flood more frequently than others.

South Ave in MLK?

Yes.

I mean, it's probably close to the flood zone, but it's not an area that floods.

Well, they chose the areas. I know Spencer and Hiawatha. Why is this a university initiative?

For publication? For research? It seems funny that the university is

It's really, I guess they got some grant funding. I don't know, I can't speak to that. I can find, Gentift is the one that's been working with them.

I'm excited to see that the data is going to be shared with the city, which is a stipulation of this. Based on the flock issue that we had in terms of equipment removal, I think I would be more comfortable if we had a clause in here saying that if the equipment was not removed, as is stated in 16, that they're going to do, that we would allow city staff to do so and build in a cost share to that.

Okay, I can revise the letter to state that.

It would be interesting to know whether this is for a product or if this is for research purposes.

Would you get back to us with that before Monday, Mayor? Yep.

Okay.

One last question, Mary, is the SU determined the locations of these or the city helped them?

I think they talked to DPW sewers to find out where they have the most issues, but I was not, I would have to look into that further. Okay.

Yeah, it would be interesting to know, because as stated, I've never seen South Ave flood ever.

I'm sure that being their project, they're going to concentrate in the footprint of the university.

But also, if it's in the sewers, it might not be a street side flooding. It's not in the footprint.

It's just throughout the city. What are we looking for in the legislation?

The purpose of why they are doing this, I think that councillors are asking to just know that. Also, Councillor Arroyo is asking for Claw in there to be able to remove equipment just like the flock situation not leave them all Yeah, I can modify that all right we got we got a lot to do so we got a move yeah 21 Thank You Mary Chairman, it's good to see you, especially bringing some money.

Good afternoon, Councillors. 21 is an in-kind donation from our lighting contractor, Front Roche Lighting America, for me, myself, and Ken to visit their facility to basically view all aspects of the manufacturing plant.

Did you need someone to go with you? Yeah. I mean, I've never been to France, so I'm just wondering.

You got room. Wow.

Contractor of ours?

Yes.

Okay, have we had a long standing relationship with them?

Four years.

Have they ever invited us to do their factory tour before?

No, but they did invite us to a summit last year. Me and Ken went to speak upon what they offer.

Do they have new products? Or is this going to be similar things?

We are going to visit their research and design. They have some new batteries out there that can hold up to extreme temperatures like we have. Also, the equipment that go through extreme temperatures as well. So they're going to let us see those type of ideas.

And the contracts that we have with I'm not going to pronounce the name right. Yes. Beautiful name. They are competitively bid, correct?

Yes. Their own contract till 2029. Thank you.

All the questions. Okay. Well, enjoy yourself. I'm not this tall. Hello. Hi. Item 22. Is that you doing it? It is, yes. Okay, go ahead. Yep.

Yeah.

Good afternoon. Megan Vitale, Vision Zero coordinator with DPW.

Item 22 is- Well, it's good to see you here, Vision Zero. We've been looking forward to- It's good to see you as well. Yeah.

Welcome. First time with a mic. 22 is for us to apply for a climate, actually two Climate Smart Communities grants under the current CFA application process, which is due at the end of this month. One would be for Butternut Street cycle track and streetscape improvements. That would be $750,000 total for that grant. And then the second would be for $500,000 for the Valley Shared Use Path Project. So $1.215 million total that we'd be applying for, and those have a 20% match.

What is the funding that we currently have for this project? What is the fund? Well, for the total, for the entire project. No. What's the program you at? Vision Zero. Vision Zero?

Yeah. These projects, neither of these projects are currently funded.

Not these projects.

Okay.

Vision Zero. Yes. Is already have some funding behind it.

Yes, there was a previously you approved $550,000 for the Vision Zero capital projects that were in the budget. So that was authorized a few months ago. The date off the top of my head.

This is additional grant application to hopefully supplement that.

Correct. But the Butternut Street, neither of these projects were in that previous authorization. So these would be additional projects that would be part of our bike network.

We haven't gotten any projects underway under Vision Zero. Well, maybe I'll just talk to you after because maybe we need to get some information on more information on total project at this point because we haven't even started anything and now we're we're going to be i don't have a problem putting in for other money but the match portion when is i would like to see where that's going to be going basically if we haven't started anything and since since you are here because vision zero as we are

The concept of Vision Zero in itself is an exciting concept, you know, in terms of fatalities, traffic flow, and all of this. It's great. We've been waiting for somebody to get into that position. Now that you are here, I think we should have a collective conversation to see where it is going, what's already in place, where it is going, to just look at it all so that we can follow where this is going. So I'll reach out, somebody will reach out to you, we'll have a committee meeting to just, so everyone can be on the same page as to where we are and where we are trying to go with it.

I'm absolutely happy to have that conversation.

What's the deadline for this funding, these two?

Sorry, say that again?

What's the deadline for these two funding projects? What's the deadline for the funding?

Oh, sorry, the CFA, all the applications for consolidated funding application are due July 31st. Okay.

I have one question. Yes. Now we're talking about the bike lane. So we're going to start from North Salinas Street. We're going up to Park Street. So we're going to have to widen the road. We're going to have to widen the road. There are 30 might want to consider trying to slow the traffic speeds just a bit, not that far from Franklin School. Then we're going to go up towards the curve. We have a situation right now, if you look at traffic engineers, we have vehicles double park a lot. And as we move up past Canal Street, 1st and North Street, we're going to go up to Butternut Circle. So it's going to end over at Butternut Circle. I have to say that these are long overdue, being involved with TNT. This is one of our projects that we have proposed over 20 years ago. I still have the documents of improvements. We're talking about something that was proposed by TNT Northside 20 years ago. and it's been a long time coming, and I appreciate that we are getting some funding for that section, though. There's one who's walked those streets throughout my life, and we're gonna end up there. So I know you're not gonna go up towards the 1800 block of Hillside, but I think this is gonna be a mass improvement. We do need it. Thank you.

Yeah, absolutely. 23. 23 is to extend the existing contract with JMT to complete construction inspection services for the Lodi Street striping project, which is a previous TAP award that we received. So that's just to push the end date of that contract out so that they can finish their work.

Are you doing 24 too? Yes. Go ahead.

So 24 is to extend the remaining one year renewal option for our term agreement with Fisher Associates.

Any questions on 23, 24? All right. Thank you. You're welcome.

Good afternoon, counselors. I've got 25 and 26, and that's for the authorization of monies needed to do the design work for the repairs needed on the MBM garage floor. Not to exceed $50,000 for this. Questions? Thank you.

Twenty-seven.

Twenty-seven. Try to save some time. Twenty-seven and thirty-eight are all waivers. The only ones that are not proprietary are twenty-eight and thirty-two and thirty-eight. I can go through them all if you want. The landfills are not proprietary, but I can explain if you need to. So go individually, go ahead. Okay, so 27 is single space parking meters. The supplies and repairs are proprietary to those meters, so we gotta go through those civic smart parking technologies. Okay, 28. 28 is one of the landfills, Camillus Landfill is the closest and cheapest for our disposal of construction debris.

And OKRA doesn't take these?

Excuse me?

OKRA doesn't take these items?

I believe, no, no. Okay. 29 is Cascades. They're the ones that gave us our carts. So their parts and handles and stuff like that are proprietary. 30 is J&J Equipment Repair or Sewer Camera Systems. Those parts are proprietary as well.

The parts for the trash carts seem a bit high. Is it any way we can get a breakdown of the parts replacements from last year's when we started that?

Yep, I can get that to you.

Not the amount. How much did we spend on parts replacements? Because I think it was 60,000 or so last year. And did we utilize all of that?

I can get that to you.

If people needed replacement parts on their carts, constituents, do they contact DPW or do the sanitation workers notice them and put it in?

They will contact CityLine and then CityLine will contact DPW and then we'll go out and repair or replace if need be. SO 30. 30 IS J&J EQUIPMENT FOR OUR CAMERA SYSTEMS. THOSE ARE PROPRIETARY AS WELL. 31 IS THE AUTOMOTIVE GLASS INSTALLATION FOR VEHICLES. I'M NOT POSITIVE THAT THAT'S PROPRIETARY BUT I BELIEVE SO PAT OR YOU.

So 31 was for J&T Automotive Glass. We've done business with them for the past God knows how long. They do good business with us when we have broken windshields, et cetera. Questions on that one?

Thank you. Just a question. You said that we've been doing business with them for so long, right? Yeah. But my thing is, have we ever looked and reached out to see if we can get more of a competitive bid?

I don't have an answer for that one. J&T is who we've always gone with. We can certainly look into it.

Yeah, I would like to see more of a competitive

Where are we at? 32 is Madison County Landfill. They take our sweeper waste. That's the closest and the cheapest site to us.

Okay.

They're tested.

So Camillus is cheaper for C&D?

Yes.

And this is cheaper for general mixed?

Sweeper waste, yeah. Okay. And we got to test it before we bring it out there, obviously.

All right. And we're doing that on a tipping fee basis or on a specific contract basis?

Just of the contract, I can't tell you offhand, but I will get back to you on that one or have Deputy Commissioner Amfordot get back to you.

And while it is very possible that one is cheaper than the other in terms of materials costs, if we're going to two different sites, it might not be cheaper overall.

She'll definitely have that breakdown because she shops the cheapest.

I just wanted to add that like the waiver competitive bids, if there's a significant change in the amount, Brian or I would get in touch with you all and say, hey, this went up $50,000. This went up $40,000, $100,000, whatever. Just so you all can know, most of these, and if they're not annual, I would get in touch with you all and say, hey, this is not an annual waiver competitive bid. This is new. So just to let you know that if I hadn't gotten in touch with y'all, these are pretty much what they've been doing. 33? All right, 33 is another proprietary.

The company, Northeast Signal Traffic, they do our traffic signals and stuff, so the repairs and services are proprietary. 34 is Inouye Concrete Equipment, do our hydraulics, that's proprietary as well. 35, the break and supply, do our breaks, proprietary as well.

So these are the traffic signal controllers that we use with the fire department, correct?

33? Yes, 33.

Are they the same companies that are utilized in the county? And have we talked with Centro about traffic signal control compatibility?

Those answers I would have to get to you.

Okay, thank you.

No problem. I'm not sure where I left off. Okay, 34. 34, okay. I think we did 34.

34 is the- Okay, 35.

Okay, 35 is the brakes, I think we did that one as well. 36 is transmissions, same thing, proprietary as well. And 37 is for our mowers, those parts for our professional turf surfaces, those are proprietary. And last but not least, 38 Kinsella, we take our hard fill, their closest, cheapest.

So from 27 to 38, those are, now how many of these are companies that are within the city limits?

You want me to go through them right now or you want me to get back to you?

No, no. Get back to us. Send us an email with them if you could. So we have 27 to 38. So was that 11 items? We'd like to know how many of them are. Okay.

Just the waiver items, right? Just the waiver items you're talking about? Yes, just the waiver items. Yes, sir.

All right. Thank you. Thank you. Good seeing you. Appreciate it. Thank you. 39. Hello, Commissioner.

Good afternoon, Councilors. Robert Brandt, Commissioner Water. 39 is application and agreement to and with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency for a grant not to exceed 1.92 million to be used for lead service line replacements within the city, no local match required. And that was something that Senator Schumer, Senator Gillibrandt and Congressman Manion really worked hard on for us. So we're looking to do that. 40 through 42, start with 42, that's authorization. The chlorine conversion replacement project out at Skaneateles to replace the existing chlorine gas. And we're looking to switch that over to liquid sodium hydrochloric chloride. Bulk storage tanks, we're looking to get rid of the gas out in skinny Atlas. That's working with the state and the EPA. We really need to get rid of that.

They prefer?

Yeah, that's kind of obsolete now. Not many people are using chlorine gas anymore due to environmental issues and stuff. 40 is um i mean uh 41 bond um for the 10 million dollars for the project and 40 is to apply for an application agreement with the new york state environmental facilities corporation of state water grants an amount of five million dollars so we'd like to apply for a grant to help cover this cost um and that's for the chlorine gas

How long would this project take? Because it seems like it's going to be a huge, large project, the chlorine replacement.

So I'm hoping to have the project kick off in the summer of next year. It's in design right now. We're already designing it. There was a previous, they came to you guys previously a few years ago, kicked this off. It kind of got pushed aside. We're getting it back in line. So, we're hoping construction will be done by 2028.

So, Commissioner, we're going to bond for $10 million and the application is five to cover half of that? Yes. Minus the 1.5 local match? Yes. So, if we get the grant, we'd be out six and a half million? Correct. Okay. Okay. I got you. I just had to do the math in my head here.

Commissioner, a little off topic, but we've had three sinkholes in the past week in the city. Are they interrelated or are they all separate incidences?

All separate incidents. The one on Warren Street, the main was put in in 1891, 130 years old. A lot of factors play. We have a lot of construction going on in the city with the 81 project, the heat. And I try to tell people they call them sinkholes. They're actually cave-ins. The water main breaks, it pushes all the soil out of the ground, the road caves in. Sinkhole would be more if the ground itself eroded and there was no explanation for it. The one on Bernadette Ave was minor. It was a hydrant branch that was leaking. Soil gets wet, soil settles. The tar gave out, our crews are down there today. They'll have that back up in operation. The restoration, the water mains on, So the one at Harley-Davidson on Guttis, that was a hydrant branch off a transmission line. It wasn't a 24-inch line. That's all been repaired. The one on Guttis Street was the 24-inch transmission line, which supplies most of the water to the city. That's been repaired. Now it's just getting the restoration back.

Yeah. I just want to extend thanks to you and your crew for working over the holiday weekend.

Yeah, they worked a lot of hours. Yeah, they worked 20 hours straight to get it done, so...

Let them go. We appreciate them.

Commissioner, I just wanted to ask about the, I thought we had sensors on some of the underground pipes as well as some of the trucks. As far as the trucks, I mean, what is their regular routes? Where are we detecting stuff at?

So we have, right now we have hydrant sensors throughout the city. That will tell you, we'll get alarms that there's like a pressure reduction in the system. And then we go out and we correlate and we sound for leaks. These were kind of just breaks. They weren't leaking first, they just gave away. And on that day, we got every detection device went off. but we got it shut down within half an hour and everything came back. The sensors are more for letting us know there's something going on so we can tackle it before it gets back.

That's on the pipes, correct?

That's on the fire hydrants.

Okay, and then what about the? I thought we had vehicles that also rode around and did some detection.

No, we have a contract with American Leak Detection. They go out, they correlate areas, we give them areas of the city. We start out with the streets that we're going to do recon work on first, so we can make sure there's no leaks before we pave them. They go and hit them streets. We have a team of employees that go out and do leak detection sounding different areas, but we have no vehicles that sound for leaks.

What was the American what?

American leak detection. All set? Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you, Madam President. I have items 43 through 61. 43 and 44.

Good afternoon, Saisha Burr, Commissioner of Parks. 43 is a bond ordinance that goes along with 44 for Burnett Park improvements. Not to exceed 450,000, it would address accessibility issues, health and safety needs, improvements to the arts and crafts center, athletic complex, the covered turf, pool, bath, house, courts, and related park infrastructure.

Items 45 and 46.

45 is bond ordinance for park facility improvements not to exceed $750,000. That goes along with the authorization number 46. That's replace, repair, engineering, construction, design, and general improvements for all park facilities. 47 is bond ordinance and 48 is authorization for the Westminster stair reconstruction project. So it's 250,000, excuse me, not to exceed 1.7 million. It includes 450,000, from one account, $250,000 from another, $600,000 from New York State debt, DASNY grant, DASNY grant, sorry, and total project not to exceed $3 million. 49 is the bond ordinance and 50 the authorization for the Westminster track, the pump track project. Yeah, excuse me. I'm a little under the weather, sorry, with allergies. But it's the Westside Pump Track Project in Leipart Park. not to exceed $300,000.

Commissioner, wasn't that $350,000 at the committee meeting? Didn't we talk about that? No? Am I wrong?

I think it was $300,000.

Okay. My apologies.

I just wanted to note, Commissioner, that we did receive a number of letters from constituents talking about the importance of having a pump track in the City of Syracuse and the engagement with Lightbar Park and the community that it represents. So I wanted to give you a copy and I've handed them to my colleagues as well.

Okay, thank you. 51 and 52 is the bond ordinance and authorization for Travelers Rest Abatement and Improvement Project, not to exceed 200,000. That's the little building that sits in like off Kirk Park. It needs some work. Our goal is to one day turn it into something that we could use for the trails, whether it be bathrooms, a nature center, office space, but we can't do that until the abatement gets done.

I just wanted to, say that um i absolutely appreciate that this project coming back online um and i would want to like just stated that see it utilized for something for the trails and highly considering someone there with canoe rentals oh what canoe rentals or um kayak or canoe yeah

um noted i don't know if you work with the creek rats for that or not but with it with that being the inlet right there it's like the perfect place for the trials bath there's nowhere if you're on the trail to stop and use the bathroom we get people from out of town that stop and ask hey is there a bathroom around is there a place to grab something you know a vending machine anything so it could be part of that space

um 53 and 54 bond ordinance and authorization for um homer wheaton concession and splash pad not to exceed 450 000. and commissioner i know that you weren't here for our public hearing the other night but i just wanted to share with you and with everybody how much love was in the room that evening as we were talking about alfonzi gunn and dennis bardenette um you know, very, very well received by the community and appreciate the improvement.

I had a lot of people call me about those two. They're just great people that have done a lot, so appreciate it.

It might be a good time to intersect the two. Now, since Joe here, before you go farther with Council, Councilor Enright, at the public hearing, well, prior to the public hearing, Councilor Codwell and Commissioner got in touch with me about extending the public hearing to be for the field as well, the baseball field as well. Now I know we had already put the public notice out and everything, right? How can we possibly do another public hearing and amendment for it to be voted on like Monday at one o'clock and to be voted on on Monday as well? Can we somehow work it in there? Because they want to do addition to the concession stand at the baseball field. And the public hearing was last night. It was talked about, but what do you know?

They want to do the park.

Yeah, they just want to. The diamond baseball.

Yeah, the baseball. Well, Algon, we just spoke about it. Algon is known for that park, for inner city baseball and for baseball. But we also talked about is the concession stand is for life, right? It's going to stand for years and years. I don't want to say this on the mic. Can we always promise that there's going to be a baseball field there? It's converted several times to different things, ice skating, baseball. And so I think Mr. Gunn would be happy with the concession stand. We can continue to talk about the baseball field. That is what he's known for. Right. It is pretty cool. Yeah.

I would be delighted to have a parks meeting about it, if that would be of interest.

No, we don't need a parks meeting at all about it. No. With respect to you, Councilor. Yeah. Whatever y'all decide to do. Okay.

I was just thinking through it. Like, hey, I know him as a baseball guy, right? So... I said I would reach out to Mr. Gunn and ask him his thoughts.

Well, one of the big things, and not to hold up the meeting, but one of the big things is when the community came and anybody that lives in that neighborhood knows Mr. Gunn, well, actually any neighborhood, but especially that neighborhood knows him as He keeps the park up over there. He cleans it up. He's a baseball guy. My biggest concern is, you know, we never know what changes fires in that neighborhood. Like I said, it used to be ice skating ring there years ago. Now baseball. So if there's the concessions then, then there will always be a memory and they'll say, hey, who was...

you know and then the same as you know it's just like the part I was just I had to make that sign big enough where everybody sees it yeah so if you guys decide to do it later we do it later I just wanted to bring it up because yeah I appreciate it because we have been talking about it and thinking about it sounds good I'll just 55 is the bond ordinance, 56 authorization for Creek Walk and Trails Vegetation Management Project for design, engineering, construction, and purchase of material to upgrades along the Creek Walk and Empire State Trail, not to exceed 350,000. Did you wanna do the next one? I'm gonna bring Miracle from Downtown Committee.

Hello, America Trier with the Downtown Committee of Syracuse. Item number 57 is on behalf of the Armory Square Association to donate a memorial plaque in celebration of Gloria Romeo, who was a very active member of the Armory Square neighborhood, organized the Candlelight Series and a lot of other different events and promotions to draw attention to Armory Square before it was Armory Square.

Thank you, America. A couple more.

58 is an agreement with Bruce Mobile Skating to provide multiple roller skating rental. He comes in during the summer program and he provides skates in his staff to run skating at Upper Onondaga or wherever we do our citywide event. We also have used his services for the current roller skating rink. which will, I will have more dates coming up. It'll be announced later on today. It will be open throughout the month of July with some daytime hours, some Friday and Saturday evening hours. So if you did not get a chance to put your roller skates on and roll across that floor, you still have time.

Is that Friday or Thursday?

We're going to have, it's going to open back up tomorrow, 11 to 2. So our daytime hours will be 11 to 2. So lunch hours, people can come down. Evenings will be 5 to 8. There's two Saturdays, four Friday, three Fridays through the month of, we will end the month of July.

Just clarify if you have your own skates.

Oh, if you have your own skates, bring them. It's free. If you need to rent, it's $5. You can go anywhere. Anytime. It's open, dusk to dawn. So when the lights come on, it means it's closed. Or if the lights don't come on, when it's dark, it's closed.

You only have to explain that to people who are millennials on down. Everybody else understood that.

But yes, it's been a good time. It's been a lot of fun. People begged for us to keep it down, so we're doing that. Cho, you coming out? I want to see you on some skates. We go up to size 15.

You offer senior discounts?

We offer close proximity to the hospital. All right. Any other questions on the 58?

all right 59 59 is the application to in agreement to um empire state development through new york kicks program to apply for a grant not to exceed 200 000 um to improve skiddy parks um soccer field and site preparation and yep commissioner could you also look into i was talking to um

I can't even think of the school district today, about the parks and some of the things that you guys are doing, you know, the valley and everything. But anyhow, Skiddy Park, I love that you guys are putting this, fixing it, and then the kids are playing soccer. Can we also look at how the design was at King School?

Yeah, the reason we applied for, it was the regional area for the grant. So we had to look at what area do they serve and that's why Skiddy was chosen because I know I've heard a few times about McKinley. We really wanted to apply for McKinley, but it's not the service area for this grant. So we will continue to look for opportunities working with some of the foundations and grantors to do that. 60 is a bond ordinance. 61 is the authorization for Sunnycrest Park stairs and safety for capital improvement project not to exceed $150,000.

Why didn't we just add that on with the other ones?

The stairs?

We were told that every bond has to be adopted individually for the project in case part of it is not used or needs to be used.

And that's all I have.

Well, that was new to me, so that was exciting. Any other questions? Oh, sorry. Go ahead. Any other questions from the councillors? I'm all set. Thank you. Thank you. I have item 62.

AFTERNOON, COUNCILORS, VINNY SCIPIO AND CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER. ITEM 62, I'VE WORKED WITH HER FOR YEARS ON THIS PROJECT. IT'S AN AMENDMENT TO OUR CONTRACT WITH OUR CURRENT BROADBAND PARTNER FOR A COUPLE REASONS. ONE, ALIGNING WITH THE NEW YORK STATE GRANT WE PREVIOUSLY RECEIVED AND THE TIMELINE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. SO THAT HAS CONSTRUCTION THROUGH OR EXPANSION BUILD OUT THROUGH THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR. SO TO NOT ONLY ALLOW US TO complete that work, but also adding a fee schedule into this contract where we've always had the intention or the desire to utilize this network we're building out for municipal use cases as well. We didn't define previously, just because we weren't at a state we were ready to do so, a fee schedule associated with utilizing the network for our purposes and the associated expense for our partner to do so. Yeah, that's included. And then lastly, the nine months is also to allow us proper lead time to solicit a procurement for a, you know, we're reaching the end of this contract for, well, we are reaching the end, but asking for an extension to be able to allow us proper time to solicit for a new, well, a potentially new partner. You know, of course our current partner can apply or submit, but to seek out an operator and potential entities who would want to lease the extra capacity we have on our network.

Any questions from my colleagues? I know some questions did come up, Benny, so I'm not going to hold it, but I'm going to meet with you and one of my counselors afterwards.

Sounds good.

You got it. Thank you. Do you want to continue on? Yeah. Yeah.

63. So this is just seeking approval for one of our team members to go to a conference later this month. This group, Starbridge, they bring together practitioners and organizations to connect them and educate peers in the industry on, you know, best practices and other opportunities within the technology sector. Well, technology in the public sector. 64 is an RFP award for IT services. This one's been making its way to you all. And yeah, so we can re-up our contracts for five different entities that we're seeking services from.

Couldn't we just award an option?

So that was to true up through the end of this past fiscal year. That was to get us through June 30th. And now this is moving forward for essentially July 1 and starting a new three-year contract. yeah so in the 465 that's in or is it for yeah 465 here is uh you know the amount that has been budgeted for this fiscal year so that you know eventually you know next fiscal year when we have uh another round of uh you know operational funds that are applicable to this contract we'll look for to appropriate funds at that time to you know do the next year and so on and so forth Yes, so this is as we, you know, just during routine operations need access to, you know, certain technical services that we don't have in-house capacity to do. This is when we engage these different groups.

We're going to set it up as POs and everything and pay it like that. That's why it's combined instead of separate. contracts and everything. Vinnie, you mentioned three years. We didn't get the period in the letter.

I will double check on it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Let me double check and get back on to you or back to you on that one.

So it's going to be like POs.

Vinnie, correct me if I'm wrong. The five providers, we already work with each of them.

We have, there is a new one in there, so the five that are listed there, there is one through this RFP process that we identified, another local group.

Terasi. Sorry? Terasi. Terakai. Terakai. I tried, I tried.

Yep, that's a newer one for us.

Do they just review and resubmit?

I'm sorry, Senator? Do they just review and resubmit for the three years? You're going to submit, this is going to be a contract, a three-year contract, right? Uh, three with two one year extensions is what we're, uh, so yeah, that have, um, that have was not, um, got it later.

Okay. Yeah.

And like, like he's like, many said, not, he said, but he said that they will be on a PO like basis, you know, which is, which is not bad, but that's.

All right. 65. Good. So 65 is an amendment to a prior authorization that we just had a short bit ago. So as a reminder, seeking to lease some space in State Tower, some network equipment rack space, that is. And this amendment is a technical change to the named entity we'll be leasing from. We had initially put it as Pioneer Companies who owns a building, but they lease that network clauses based on a different entity who then subleases it to us. So it's just a technical change there. And then also, the initial one time stand up costs to get into the space and configure it, there was an increase in that. So increasing that from a not to exceed of $1,000 to $2,000. Thank you. Councillor, are you all set?

Yeah, I will.

I'll catch up with you after. Thank you. Councillor Moore.

Thank you, Madam President. I have items 66 through 69. Is Chief Monz here?

Good afternoon, Councilor Moore and everybody. I'm Mike Monza, Fire Chief 66 and 67. There's a request so we can buy new SCBAs. They're the apparatus we use to breathe in our fires. They last 10 years. They're at the end of their life, and so we have to replace our SCBAs. Does anybody have any questions on that?

No, the current ones are 10 years old.

Yes, they're approaching the end of life. We just got done evaluating many different manufacturers. I have a meeting tomorrow about the process moving forward with this authorization. And then we transition everything from the new face pieces, new bottles, We're going to buy 180 packs that go on our back. The 400 bottles go in those packs. All the face pieces, we have to retrofit all of our fire trucks so the new model can fit in our fire trucks. So that's what that money is going to do is to make sure that our SCBAs have everything compatible so they can go into a fire and not breathe the smoke and toxic gases and stuff.

Any questions from anybody? Okay.

Okay.

So 68.

Thing 68, that's a grant that the police and the fire are going in together. The fire department's gonna buy 12 radios with this money so we can communicate with the police on scene on the same radio channel so we can have interoperable and flawless communication. And the police are buying a couple items, a barrier transport vehicle, a portable digital radiography tool, cameras that they need. But this is all through a grant. Okay, thank you. Thank you.

Appreciate it. Item 69.

Counselors, Rich Trudeau, Deputy Chief Syracuse Police. Item 69, we're looking to amend an agreement that we came before you already to increase the amount from 200,000 to 225,500 to pay Naughton and Associates two invoices. This would have been on last year's budget, at the end of last year's budget. Going forward, I know, going forward- Yeah, because you're looking at last year's, right?

I know, I know.

Yep, so going forward, starting July 1, the rfp that vinnie talked about in terms of how we pay for our tech consultants going forward i'm just asking to amend this ordinance so that we can pay two invoices from the last budget year so going forward we'll be under the rfp under this particular item looking to amend it to pay for those two invoices does that make sense yeah Oh, I knew you were going to say something. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I just want to make sure it's clear this is last year's budget. Going forward, it'll be under the RFP.

Any other questions? Okay, all set. Thank you.

Thank you, Councillor Williams.

Thank you, Madam President. We have the finance agenda, items 70 through 81. Hey, Vicki. We might have a slight change, but we should be ready with items 70 for Monday.

I did reach out, as you had requested, to see if we raised the boot fee from 50 to 100, if there would be a corresponding reduction, which there would be, for the percentage instead of the city taxpayers paying 28% of the parking fines and penalties. They would reduce it down to 14% with a 3% fee for anyone using a credit card to pay for that. Or they would just charge a 17% fee and then not charge for the credit card fee. So that's something we can discuss offline. But just want to make you aware that there are options.

Great. Appreciate it.

Thank you.

Item 71.

Hi, Kristen Bennett, director of accounting. This is for an agreement with three plus one to provide consulting services to maximize our return for funds invested because they have the banking contacts, they know the market far better than I ever could.

Thank you.

Good afternoon, Councilors Evan Loving, budget director. 72 and 73 are regulatory requirements for tracking time worked by elected officials. This is something we do on a regular basis. And for 73 and 74, I know the executive directors here, these are agreements with Krause Marshall and Downtown Committee for money that was appropriated in the FY27 budget. And 76 is this appropriation for OHA that was in the special objects. So I'll leave it to the directors.

Yep. And then, Merrick, do you want to just speak briefly about Downtown Committee? Thank you.

Mayor Kutryar, Executive Director of the Downtown Committee of Syracuse. As Evan had mentioned, items 74 and 75, these are our annual agreements to be able to draw down on the funds that were approved as part of this upcoming fiscal year budget. So this is our annual contract with the City of Syracuse to utilize the funds as presented during our budget hearings.

Did you send the letter for the festival?

I did, and that was not included on today's agenda, so I anticipate that would be on the next agenda. Okay, all right.

Thank you very much. And Lisa.

Good afternoon, counselors, Lisa Moore, executive director of the Onondaga Historical Association. Item 76, appropriation of funds from the special object account in the amount of $100,000 to the Onondaga Historical Association for our service as city archivist and curator of historical documents, as well as assistance to the Landmark Preservation Board.

we appreciate both of your work thank you very much thank you very much happy 250th and item 77 i know that commissioner oj is not here today he reached out to me he told me that item 77 the origin was A DOCUMENTATION ERROR, CONFUSION BETWEEN EAST AND WEST HIAWATHA BOULEVARD. HE WILL BE HERE ON MONDAY WITH ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE MAY HAVE ON THAT. THEN JOE, ITEM 78.

GOOD AFTERNOON. JOE BARRY, FIRST ASSISTANT CORPORATION COUNCIL. ITEM NUMBER 78 IS A CONTINUING ASSESSMENT THAT WE We see from time to time our share of the cost for the Lake Creek cleanup. It does involve a consent order, so we can go into executive session if you want to discuss it in more detail. But as you may recall from previous assessments, it's an ongoing cost that we've incurred.

I thought that last year we were done with it.

It's a much bigger project.

We will discuss this in executive session. But if you want to have executive session.

That would be nice, thank you.

So continuing.

If for nothing else, for a quick overview for the new councillors who joined this January.

Yes, good idea.

But if we could do it on Monday, that would be great.

That sounds wonderful.

Great. How about that, Joe? Monday? I'm sorry? Monday. Will that work for you? No. Oh. Monday.

Joe is out. He's out.

So, okay. Okay. We'll fight a time. We'll leave it up to the president.

I mean, do you think we could do it quickly after the study session? I don't think it'll take long.

Maybe, who don't understand what's going on, whoever don't understand, you can talk to Joe, we'll be separate. Because this is, it'll be probably in a couple more years. Yes.

Okay. Thank you, Joe. We'll do that then. We'll have individual councillors reach out.

If they feel free to reach out to me. Thank you. We work well. CONTINUING WITH THE LAW DEPARTMENT ANNUAL ITEMS, NUMBER 79 IS OUR ANNUAL WAIVER OF COMPETITIVE BIDDING TO OBTAIN PROCESS SERVING SERVICES, WHICH WE MAINLY USE FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT. THESE ARE THE FIRMS THAT WE'VE FOUND PERFORMED BEST OVER THE YEARS FOR DIFFERENT, WHETHER IT'S LOCAL SERVICE OR OUT OF TOWN SERVICE, WE USE Different firms depending. Great. Thank you.

Joe, I went to a very interesting neighbors meeting in Pond Street. I will keep it brief for the purpose of the meeting. But they did have some concerns about our ability to process CERF and the requirements thereof, just in terms of making sure that code violations are enforced and proceed. So I did want to have a talk with you at some point about that.

Yeah, Councilman Majoke might have brought up a similar question.

He also had some interesting suggestions at that meeting. I think we might want to follow up with you or your office about.

I suggested we have a discussion with code enforcement because I think it involves procedural steps. Maybe we can have a quick discussion after this meeting at this time.

That probably won't work, but I think we will get in touch so we can come up with a time. Okay.

Thank you. Item number 80 is waiver of competitive bidding for Council Press. They're a specialty service that we need to print materials for appellate court submissions which come up from time to time. Thank you. And finally, number 81 is our waiver of competitive bids for several companies that do title work. We mainly utilize these services for the land bank, but from time to time. There's other property issues that come up with different city projects that we need to do title work as well.

Any questions? All right.

Thank you, Joe. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Madam President. Thank you. Councilor Jones-Brown, sir.

Thank you, Madam President. I have item 82 and 83. And... Yeah. You wanna speak on 82 or do we need to?

The AG's office item. Michelle Spansky, Deputy Commissioner of Neighborhood Development. We did get the letter, award letter that was requested from the AG's office. So I resubmitted that letter. If there's anything else that is needed on our end, let us know.

Yeah, so we do have the letter. Thank you for that. I would like to Because it was directed to one group without a RFP or RFQ, I don't know if there are other groups throughout the city that does any of that work. For the future, I would probably like to see if that was extended.

Yeah, as a point of clarification, it was designated to the program itself. The AG's office was very aware that the contract that we had only went through the fiscal year that just ended. And so certainly we would come back to actually award any of those funds, and we're happy to do that through an RFP process. Thank you.

Are you all set? You still have one more, right?

One more, 83, which is...

Good afternoon, Council. Jake Dishaw, Deputy Commissioner of Code Enforcement and Zoning. Item number 83 is an application and agreement to HUD in the amount of $1.5 million to deploy AI technology into the technical building plan review process. So again, HUD wants to evaluate how AI would work in a real environment. So there's an opportunity here to... it would be used to actually look at the blueprint drawings the actual design drawings it wouldn't be to replace the human element it would be to cut down on uh it would be for more complete submission more complete uh drawings up front and then limit the review cycles for Corrections that's how we envision this happening so um I would probably hold this item

and probably do a public hearing. I do feel like there would be some issues or concerns from individuals with the use of AI technology, but I also would like to know if it's been utilized in other places and what possible issues have arise from it.

Sure. I think the deadline is Monday. We found out about this late, so I realize that, but I just wanted to put that out there.

Well, I usually have incredible sympathy towards the city staffers and particularly in terms of federal appropriation processes. I have no interest in seeing this kind of technology trialed in Syracuse.

Councilor, I just want to add to that. They can apply for it on their own. You guys don't have to enter an agreement. So everything can be switched up to be just how apply. You know, if you guys decide.

Can we separate the application?

Yeah, you can separate the application from the agreement if you want to do that. And before they... before administration do anything, whether they will have to come back to the agreement to do. If you guys choose to do that. Just want to let you know that.

I think that in terms of grant processes going forward, that makes complete sense because that gives the departments the freedom to put the applications in and then the council the ability to decline funding if we don't wish to see it implemented. But I will say that given what DOGE did in DC last year in terms of utilizing public processes to advance a very specific industrial sector to the detriment of constituents and voters and our government structure itself, I do not see this as being interesting at all.

That's my concern as well as far as the possibility of the technology that some of those AI companies are using or are wishing to utilize to continue like segregation or to not service certain populations or areas. So if I put in a certain address where this is being utilized at and it's already in a well-known red line or underserved community, is that going to trigger additional fines, fees, permitting stuff? So there's a great concern. I third that.

Understood. You know, I do see it as an up and coming technology. I think the process is to or the purpose is to help improve the timeline for plan review. So it would be you're applying for something rather than just having humans look at the design drawings, the blueprints. It would run through this program. It would have the New York State code implemented into it, and that would point out what's missing or what might be incorrect. I realize there's a lot more to it than that, but I know there's also been a lot before. I've been before you a lot about improving the efficiency and the timelines for permitting. This is an exploration process to see if this is something that could cut down on that timeline.

So I mean, I am someone who grew up with George, Jane, Judy and Elroy. So I've been looking forward to those times to come to pass. However, with, you know, the young man from South Africa having more control than us, there is concern. So we just have to take some time.

understand so uh michael collins commissioner for neighborhood business development first of all i appreciate the jetsons reference with great respect for each of the concerns raised to the point that the deputy commissioner made about this being uh very specific to plan review which is very different than the concerns that i had or uh that i heard i'm just curious if this is um i mean we'll we'll we'll talk afterwards and everything but uh would this be something that with additional information you may all consider or it's ai and it's done i'm just curious so that we can uh spend our time over the next couple days patrona do you want to have a meet a committee meeting to

I just want to move on the conversation. The only reason why, because the administration just now said that Monday they need it to be voted on. But if we meet before Monday, maybe we can flush something out. They can apply for it without your permission anyway. If they want to apply for it, they can apply for it.

Well, it doesn't... And I totally respect that option, but...

So they can apply for it. If they receive it, they have to come back to get a permission to do it. Then you separate application from agreement. Yeah.

That creates a challenge on our end from the fact... Two ways, which is... And this isn't to push. This is to clarify. If we separate application and agreement... The first time that we apply for something and the funder goes through the whole process and awards the grant and then we turn it down will also be the last time that we'll have an approval from that grantor. So I'm always leery to put any of us in that situation.

So again, we should like to have more information maybe if we meet between now and Monday.

Yeah, we definitely want more information. I don't know about a committee meeting though.

Yeah, and again, this is just for clarification. I'm not trying to push. I just want to make sure that over the next few days our staff's time is allocated in a way that's going to be useful. That's all.

I appreciate everything that Jake said in terms of efficiencies and if this was a self-contained technology that had New York State planning and we could run our things through it. But in terms of data privacy on the back end, I would need to know that this was a lockbox system similar to Axon. And I don't believe that you can guarantee me that at this point. So for me, I'm not interested in moving forward with it, but I defer to the group.

Okay, we can talk more later, and we'll find out if that's an answer that we're able to provide or not. Absolutely.

All right. Thank you. So can you do that as soon as possible? Because if you're going to apply for it, we need an amended letter. Absolutely. You know, and yeah.

Yeah. No, we'll get right on it. Got you. Anything else?

Councilor Montauk.

Thank you, President Panagwa. I have 84 through 88. 84 we held for one meeting, but that one is going to be okay to go. 85?

Hi, Council. Kevin Race from Division of Business Development. And Deputy Commissioner Hill is just passing out a map. 85 is related to the New York State Brownfield Opportunity Area, or BOA program. This is administered by New York State Department of State. We're asking for the permission to apply for a $300,000 planning grant to study and establish and create a new BOA plan for a new BOA, which we're calling the West Side Gettys BOA. This would, like, encompass most of the Gettys corridor, most of the Park Ave neighborhood, including the old Auto Row, West Genesee Street, West Fayette Street, and Erie Boulevard West. There's a 10% match, which we will provide via in-kind staff hours.

Are there ideas for how you're gonna develop this, or is this just the preliminary, what can we, can't we do?

Yeah, so this is like the planning stage of the program. So this is where we go out, we do community engagement, we get a steering committee established with representatives from across the area. And really it's, you know, about creating priorities for redevelopment that are community rooted, and then also identifying strategic sites, long term, a bacon, Abandoned contaminated properties things like that that we really want to see redeveloped. It is kind of just like a long term planning program after we get these areas designated which might take two years. Then we can apply for certain pre development funds through the program but those cover any type of study, we want to do or property specific things like engineering surveys architectural drawings if we did have a vacant property in mind that we wanted to. try and redevelop. It's not going to provide the bulk of the funding to get properties redeveloped, but it sets the stage to further study those.

Yeah, can you make sure I'm kept in the loop on all this?

Yeah, I'll throw you on the steering committee if we get awarded. Anybody else? 86.

We have, I'm sorry, we have three BOAs?

So, yeah, so we have one existing BOA, which was established like over 10 years ago. That's on the Hiawatha Boulevard, Lodi Ave, or Lodi Street. That one we're looking to do probably next year. We're trying to get... more collaborations because we can actually apply for those pre-development fundings because that one's established um then we have two ongoing uh boas that were in the planning stages for the east adams south salina boa in the erie boulevard east boa both of those are on track um we have you know we've been doing that work for the better part of 10 months um So we have certain sections of the report that are under draft. We'll have another public meeting for each of those towards the fall. Those final reports will be drafted later this year, and then we'll submit those to designation by the end of the year so that next year we can identify pre-development asks for those areas, whether they're property specific or we want to do area wide studies or something.

OK. Thank you, Kevin. And Brianca, congratulations on your new appointment.

Hello again, Councilors, Evan Loving, Budget Director. Number 86 is looking to an application agreement with NYSERDA that would fund 75% of an on-site energy manager for two years. This is something we're looking into. As you may remember during the budget process, our utility costs are increasing exponentially, and so we're looking to make sure that we can do what we can to control those, and we also want to make sure we're aligning our facilities operations with our climate action plan.

This isn't the same company that you guys were talking, that sent out the CityScent collaboration with earlier this year, right?

No. NYSERDA is the Energy Research and Development Authority.

Yeah, I know NYSERDA, but you said it's also OSM.

No, that's just, there's nobody selected. This would be a person we would hire, and NYSERDA would cover 75% salary and benefits.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Good afternoon, Counselors Owen Kearney, Deputy Commissioner for Planning and Sustainability. Number 87 is, I believe, the final grant authorization request. No, not the final one. For this year's consolidated funding application to New York State, it's through the New York State Department of State Local Waterfront Revitalization Program. this is one that the city has been successful with for the past few years this is a follow-up grant focused on the piers in the inner harbor we have initial funding to evaluate survey uh structural analysis of those peers which we haven't started yet but we'll be putting that work out to bid shortly uh this is follow-up dollars essentially phase two dollars to design something um and not to exceed 450 000 probably won't be that full amount but wanted to put that number in there so we can at least go up to there make sure we have enough uh to fund a redesign of those peers happy to answer any questions

Thanks, Ellen.

And a quick plug. We're going to be at Hazard Branch Library tomorrow night, 530, for the comprehensive plan, third of four public meetings. So if you or folks you're talking to are interested or over in that area, please come out and see us. Hazard on West Genesee, 530 Thursday night. Open house style, so just drop in 530 to 630. Thank you. Thank you. 88.

Mayor Kutryar, Downtown Committee of Syracuse. This last item is related to the New York State Consolidated Funding Application. We would like to apply for building renovation and facade improvement funds for the Crouse Marshall Business Improvement District area. And as part of the application submittal, which is due July 31st, it requires a municipal resolution and support. There are no matching funds requested from the city. All matching funds would be provided by property owners. And with this item, there is one item to clarify. The resolution is not in support of the downtown committee. It would be in support of the Crouse Marshall Business Improvement District as your organization submitting the grant application.

America, the targeted blocks are all tax paying for profit businesses in the commercial district?

They are, some properties may be not-for-profit, but not-for-profits still do pay a level of the assessment in the area, and they are eligible for funding through this New York State grant program. Thank you.

Anybody else?

Okay, thanks, America. All right, motion to adjourn? So moved. Second.

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