Community Relations Board - Regular Meeting

Monday, February 24, 2025

The Community Relations Board focused on planning future community events, including a clothing swap and a book club honoring Nobel Laureate Isaac Bashevis Singer. Discussions also covered promoting street safety and addressing online negativity and neighbor disputes.

About this meeting

Government Body
Community Relations Board
Meeting Type
Community Relations Board
Location
Surfside, FL
Meeting Date
February 24, 2025

Transcript

340 sections

0:01 – 0:32David Karp

Okay, I'm going to call the meeting to order. Thank you everybody and welcome. I have to leave at 7 o'clock because we have a board meeting tonight on our construction and engineering company. But I want to jump ahead a few things.

0:35Speaker 8

I'd like to make a motion to reorder almost everything. So we can go to 7A first.

0:39 – 1:13David Karp

I'd like to advise for a motion to be made to move 7A first. Is there a second? All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Motion passes. And I'd like to move up our next event, so that looks like 6i, would that be 6i that you want to do?

1:13Joanna Katz

6i or 6h, I guess. Oh, I see, 6h, okay. Or something else.

1:20David Karp

I'd like to also move up 6h and 6i. Can someone make a motion for that?

1:24Mary Henderson

Make a motion. I second.

1:26David Karp

All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Motion passes.

1:31Speaker 6

You can just make them all together.

1:33 – 1:56David Karp

You don't have to make individual motions for each. That might be it for now. Frank and Genesis if the March 20th at 3 would be better to make another time or date because we don't want to, you know, the parking lot and the activity for you and Genesis.

1:56 – 2:11Speaker 8

I think I'll be okay because the vendor has now done the one event so they have experience. So I would probably be okay, but it is a little hectic and hard.

2:11Speaker 6

There will not be parking in front of the town hall. I don't know if all of you drive, but if you guys walk,

2:21Speaker 6

Hi, welcome.

2:24Speaker 8

City bike, too.

2:27David Karp

And, Commissioner, are you available that day? Do you come at 3? Yes.

2:31Speaker 6

I know Kayla is not available whenever there's the 3 p.m.

2:38Mary Henderson

I'm good. I don't have classes on Thursdays. Okay, great.

2:41David Karp

Well, let's keep this one at 3 o'clock. And then after that, we'll make them 6.

2:50Speaker 8

We'll alternate.

2:52David Karp

But if Kayla can't come.

2:53Speaker 6

I wanted to talk to you guys about that.

2:56David Karp

Hello, how are you?

2:58 – 3:25Speaker 6

I looked over at the code and there was a misrepresentation. So when we first talked about the absences for our boards and we spoke about the main three absences in a row, that is only applicable for the resort tax board. Every other board, you can now have more than three accesses thrown at it right here. If not, then you still get to remove one.

3:25 – 3:37Joanna Katz

Alright, then let's do them all at... Six. What? Then we should probably, after this one, move them all to six since Kayla's not able to. And... Was there somebody who couldn't do six?

3:38David Karp

No, I think we're just trying to help Mary.

3:40Joanna Katz

I'm good now.

3:44David Karp

So if we have three in the calendar year, where does it go, to the commission or to us?

3:50 – 4:04Speaker 6

I believe it's the chair, I have to double check, but it is three absences per calendar year for all boards, except for the Resort Tax Board, they do have the three in a row in Denver, so it's removable.

4:05David Karp

But where does that go, to the commission?

4:08Speaker 6

That's what I have to double check. I have to double check on the code and see what it says. but I did want to touch bases with you guys because I do know that KDAL has that.

4:15 – 4:39David Karp

Can you put that on for the next agenda? Mm-hmm. All right, so we'll just wait until the next agenda. Okay. Okay. So we'll leave the next meeting at March 20th at 3 o'clock. I hesitate to change that like we did this week because I heard some of our members had changed plans to be at the council, so...

4:44Speaker 8

So the Enchanted Forest right after.

4:48 – 5:23David Karp

Okay. Alright, and then I want to talk about our next event, so that if I have to leave, what we can do. I do want to thank Mary, that was excellent. Great, yeah. And thank you for everybody that came. Even just time to talk to each other is what made it nice. If you'll bring it up again for next year, we'll add it. Yeah, of course. And we got real nice feedback on that. Yeah, I wonder, it's raining now, so I wonder if they have...

5:25Speaker 8

The wishes are now materializing. Listen, Eagles won the Super Bowl, so I wish it all came true. I put a hose on it. It's working.

5:41David Karp

And it was just right and easy with the water and the lemonade. The idea was low-key, but it worked. It achieved the outcome.

5:49Speaker 4

Excellent return on investment. And even for people who engaged with it for just 10 minutes. It's a good vibe. Very nice.

5:59David Karp

Thank you, Mary. Good idea. All right, so what would we like to do for our next one?

6:06 – 7:34Joanna Katz

Do you want me to address, I also sent it, so I'll talk about the two that are there. So as far as the, so I came to the board, the commission meeting when the sanitation workers were being honored and I was really moved and I was hugging my guys who I see every day, I'm open to see them. And I was just trying to think of some different ways that maybe we could do a little more as well to engage with them. They're so unsung. and most people were not at that meeting, and most people don't have the ability to thank them. I was just, this is just, I don't know their schedule or how things work, but I was thinking maybe we do like a surprise lunch or something for one of them once a week or what, just, it doesn't have to be in a specific order, something where we surprise, it doesn't have to be a lunch, it could be something else, something where we surprise them and just give them a little love. That was just something that, came across my mind or maybe like bring someone with a massage chair there anything makes them feel cared for but um anyone wants to discuss that just a quick question would this be like um for for all of them or how many are there in total i don't know but i want to say maybe at least like So it would probably take a little bit of poor dating in terms of, and I don't know, do they stop at noon usually? What's their day like?

7:35 – 7:49Speaker 8

I know on occasion like Randy would sometimes like cook for them and do like some kind of like public works lunch. Um, I'm guessing most of them can coordinate, um, you know, a lunch hour together. Um, so I think it's, you know.

7:49Joanna Katz

And is Randy gone or he's leaving soon? Randy's gone. He's gone. Oh, okay. Okay, so, and is there something, who's in Randy's room?

7:58Speaker 8

Um, right now, Andre, Capital Improvement Projects, he's the acting public board director.

8:02Joanna Katz

That's who we talked to about how we see it.

8:04 – 8:31Speaker 8

Yeah, I can talk to Andre, but also Franza, the assistant director, I mean, she's been there for, over a decade I think so she knows everybody and she knows all their schedules so I think she'll be a really good resource she's kind of like the heart of the department if you will she'll kind of I think have some good recommendations I'd like to suggest we did this for teacher week and because we all are on different schedules during the day we couldn't they just had something set up

8:32 – 8:54David Karp

I'd like to do a one-time deal rather than one a week. And we either have maybe desserts come in during your break. You could even have a lunch. They all might have a staggered lunch. And we could come in for dessert and coffee. If we're there, we could go. We could invite the public. Um, and it would be one and done, you know.

8:54Joanna Katz

The only issue with one and done, just. Not one person, all. I'm saying, they don't, do they all work on the same, do they, how does that work? That I don't know.

9:02 – 9:13Speaker 8

Yeah, that's right. But I also worry that if you invite the public, then it's a totally different budget. Okay, forget it. And everyone's going to shop for free food. Yeah. Yes.

9:13 – 9:26Speaker 1

I have pretty much the numbers. We have, uh. 12 solid waste employees, 8 public works, and 3 water insurers. So that's 23 in total.

9:27 – 9:40David Karp

So maybe two dates, you know, like on a Tuesday and a Thursday? Or even like you could wrap it in like a piece of cellophane, you know, so it would be there the next day for them. Their cookies, water.

9:40Speaker 8

Great. Okay, let's see. We'll talk to Fran and see if they do have like, you know, alternating schedules.

9:46David Karp

Maybe from 11 to 1, you know, we can, some of us can mow the lawn. Anybody else have an idea or thought?

9:53 – 10:05Speaker 2

I don't have a specific idea, but I wanted to focus more on community events so that people can get together and meet each other. I'll bring that up next. We'll save that.

10:05 – 11:11David Karp

Let's finish this because we're on a roll with this one. Then I'll turn it over to you. um so what do i need a motion to explore this or just let frank explore this i mean you can make a motion um but you have to allocate a number of money that you're thinking about that should we wait till next should you explore it first and come back next month there's no hurry yeah or you can make a motion to have me explore and then maybe work with you or i guess the vice chair since it's your item and we can touch base on the cost and are you okay with absolutely we invite them all twice during that sounds great Okay. So anybody would like to make a motion to... allocate to explore and allocate 500 like we did i think maybe we can determine that once we you know maybe we have to approve the money first or not no i think we should also just see from how the structure of the day what their scheduling is like and what their day is structured to see so this might be a next month i think so all right so we'll bring this on okay is that someone want to make a motion to explore and

11:12Mary Henderson

I'll make a motion to explore.

11:13 – 11:24David Karp

Okay, is there a second? Okay, Israel made the second. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion passes, okay. All right. You had an idea for the next event?

11:24 – 12:32Speaker 2

I don't have a specific idea. I just was hoping that it would be more community-oriented so that I think the opportunity to have everybody get together is more important than having individual-type things. I thought that was actually part of what the Community Relations Board was, was to tie the residents together instead of having little pockets of here and there. So I don't have any specific ideas, honestly, but I'd love to brainstorm. And that's just, I mean, I know, again, budgets, obviously, whatever, but we can create activities or get togethers that don't have to be costly or even have any monetary effect at all. you know, um, but just like having like these group get togethers and it could be an agenda. It could be like similar to the arts and crafts project or whatever. It could be something similar to that. The thing is, is I was thinking about it. How do we get, this is why I said we need to brainstorm on it. How do we get everybody to want to engage in something like this? Yeah, I agree. I think food or alcohol. Um,

12:37 – 13:22Joanna Katz

Makes people honest too. So we have on here as well, I don't know if we're supposed to talk about it along with this, but the swap, which I think could be very community because it's based on a few things. One is everybody has stuff, babies, rollers, and I just keep thinking of kids' stuff. I'm constantly going to my friends with younger kids and saying, please take my kids' stuff. If we had something, I think it could get a good turnout. We have to really... get it out there and make it exciting for people. But I think everyone has stuff they could get rid of and everybody has stuff that they need that they don't want to spend money on. So if it doesn't, that wouldn't really cost us anything.

13:24David Karp

Before we explore that, I want to turn over to the commissioner to talk about the 6B. Do I have to make a motion? Because if that would tie into our next event...

13:35Speaker 4

This would be for November.

13:37 – 14:35Speaker 2

I kind of have, I just thought of this idea based on kind of what she said. And it's kind of weird because I haven't done this for like 20 years, but how about creating like a community flea market or yard sale, like in the, like instead of like just the toys thing, but like everything, like you guys, like the community can bring whatever they want. We can set up tables. I mean, I don't know if that's going to be a rental thing or whatever, or that we have them pay for it even, but then we get people to go in the community there. And then the advertising, we definitely want to advertise that, I guess, even outside the community, not just inside the community. So that other people can come. Unless you want to just do it inside. But I'm going to put in a Surfside community letter and let people know about it. People who want to attend or people who want to just make purchases. But I think it should be planned, not something like a last minute thing. That doesn't cost anything. And if anything, people could compensate the cost of the table or whatever.

14:36Joanna Katz

So instead of it being free, have people they can sell their stuff.

14:40 – 15:01Speaker 2

Yeah, basically they can sell their stuff. I mean, it could be anything. Like, if people want to unload their junk, and then other people might want to buy some of the junk. You know what I mean? Or like, a lot of people have a lot of clutter. I know I do. But I'm just saying, I see people always throwing stuff out, and every time I see people throwing stuff out, other people are coming to take it. So really, it could be, I mean, when I say flea market, it could be anything. You can even give the stuff away.

15:01 – 15:34Joanna Katz

but that's sort of what the swap would be yeah so you could do the same thing i mean either or something like that last meeting i think i was saying so we did this every year at my synagogue in philly and it was very well received where we did it where if you wanted to participate you had to pay ten dollars then it was a donation to a charity you don't even have to do that it could be completely free and the idea is i think we could have some kind of rule if you want to participate you have to bring at least five items or something and then people can just take everybody as much as you want out. I don't know.

15:34 – 15:48David Karp

What if we had, you know, they could donate it and maybe pay five dollars to come in. That money could go to a local charity or food bank. You know, or we could take the clothes to a, you know.

15:48 – 16:01Joanna Katz

We should definitely donate the clothes and stuff at the end if that's, you know, possible. But we could definitely do it where more people sell their stuff, whichever you guys think is a... Could it be held at the community?

16:01 – 16:18Speaker 2

You could even do both. You could have a giveaway and the same thing at the same time. Yeah, depending on if you want... Because if you have stuff that's not really so valuable, you might have a bunch of $20 items or $30 items or whatever, and you're not going to ask somebody for a couple dollars, so it's probably good to donate that.

16:19 – 16:45Speaker 4

Yeah, the clothing, you know, the clothing especially seems really good for a swap, especially with kids' issues. So it's like you could have, like, a clothing swap that's sort of like a separate area where, I'm just spitballing here, but, like, you bring in something, you get a certain number of tickets or whatever. Somebody at the gate is just like, ah, it's worth three tickets, you know, and then, you know, and then just... For a bag, you get a certain amount of tickets. Yeah, or something, and then, you know, it's kind of sorted in some way where people can, I don't know.

16:45David Karp

Can we just start with clothing? Maybe we start with clothing rather than books and electronics.

16:51Joanna Katz

Yeah, sure. I mean, absolutely. Whatever you guys think is the easiest or best way to...

16:58Speaker 8

In terms of locations, I mean, are you thinking maybe like the green space at the community center or... That room where we had our talk.

17:07David Karp

Just in case it rained. With clothing. You know, that room across from the...

17:12Joanna Katz

I mean, I hope it's bigger than that. But yeah, it's possible. Yeah, I'm thinking that might be small. It's small, but it just depends.

17:24 – 17:40Speaker 8

Maybe like in that room plus like the covered deck part that you can kind of spill over. I mean, what would be nice about doing it on, you know, so that we're going to need some six foot tables and they're kind of easier because they're right there already. So logistically that would be. Okay, great.

17:40David Karp

And even if we had the room where they come in to check in. Yeah.

17:45Joanna Katz

If the weather's good, we could do that area plus the green space if there's that many people.

17:52 – 18:18Speaker 8

Also, just if folks come in with some stuff but they don't you know get rid of it i think we would just want people to take it though because then we don't want to be you know stuck with all of them we can arrange with a charity ahead of time to come get everything yeah i mean i was thinking that might be yeah maybe if we coordinate with them they they'll just come and grab whatever in the surfside um newsletter that goes out every month

18:18Speaker 2

Does that cost us to advertise?

18:22 – 18:38Speaker 8

No, I put all of our stuff in there. It's just a timing thing. So right now, tomorrow I'm closing March. So if we want to do this event in March, we would need to know now. And it is good to give it a few weeks of publicity just to help spread the word.

18:39Joanna Katz

So, but if we wanted to do it in April, we would need to really do it now? Yes, start defining it, exactly.

18:45David Karp

And we'd have the March meeting to plan. To finalize, yes.

18:49 – 19:02Joanna Katz

So, I think the first thing is, and it's open for either one or both, is whether it's going to be a true swap where there's no money exchanged, or it's going to be more like a flea market where there's money exchanged.

19:02 – 19:42Speaker 8

both are great and have different purposes but you guys also the schedule for april is crazy um so i think we need to find a date right now it's looking like we're gonna have four events on sunday april 6th oh my goodness literally four yeah modeltopia historical walking tour the phone the jewish film festival screening and the spring neck hunt i thought you said it was november That's a different, yeah. So we have the Sunday the 13th is open and the 20th. It's Palm Sunday.

19:42Joanna Katz

Which I think is Palm Sunday.

19:44David Karp

And Mike's Passover.

19:46Joanna Katz

So Passover is that weekend too. It's the 12th, 13th.

19:51Speaker 8

Right, so the 13th would be Passover.

19:53Joanna Katz

And then Easter is... Okay.

19:56Speaker 8

Then on the 27th, we have the Earth Day Resource Fair at the Community Center on Plastic Fishing.

20:02Joanna Katz

Okay, so it might be May?

20:05Speaker 8

Maybe May, yeah.

20:06David Karp

That would give us a lot more time to get this. Yeah.

20:08Speaker 2

We'll be able to advertise it to publications back and back? Yeah, yeah, sure. I think that's a better idea also. I think beginning May, maybe. I'll be trying to plan it maybe after Passover.

20:18Joanna Katz

Your graduation is May 8th. Oh, we'll do it. Come and celebrate. That'll be great. We could do like the 18th.

20:33Speaker 8

No. The 18th is going to be the anniversary event for the 90th. Oh, for the 90th. Okay, that would work. Let's move up. May 11th is Mother's Day.

20:41Joanna Katz

11th is Mother's Day. So May 4th? May 4th. May 4th is open. May the 4th. May the 4th. May the 4th.

20:50David Karp

To clean out your closets.

20:52Joanna Katz

Yeah. May 4th.

20:54Mary Henderson

Does that work for everybody May 4th? I'm just going to check right now because I think that's when my last exams are. Okay.

21:03Joanna Katz

It's a Sunday, that helps. Yeah.

21:07David Karp

So we would come and help get the tables set up.

21:10Joanna Katz

We would come set up and help direct everything. May 4th is good for me. I don't have anything scheduled for May 4th. How does everyone feel? May 4th? It's enough time.

21:20David Karp

So is there a motion to begin the planning for the May 4th clothing swap?

21:26Joanna Katz

I make a motion.

21:30David Karp

Mary? All those in favor say aye. Aye. Motion passes. Do you want to work with Frank to flesh some of this out?

21:37 – 21:53Joanna Katz

Yeah, I think if just we could agree on the one part of it, and then I think we can work on it from there, just because I think it will be a different format if it's everyone bringing, if there's money exchanged. When there's money exchanged, I feel like it's just a different thing, but we can do that. We just have to decide together.

21:53 – 22:05David Karp

I'd like to make a recommendation just on clothing. Let's start with that. That seems to be the easiest, and then we could find a place and just take it all there. Do you mean it's clothing? It's just children's clothing? No.

22:06Speaker 2

It could be anything. Just all clothing.

22:09Mary Henderson

I think if somebody could volunteer to take all, like I have a big SUV, I could always just take it.

22:14Joanna Katz

I'm just for some reason thinking of that mom with that stroller going like, gosh, I would love someone to have this stroller. Or about children, just children's items. Bicycles, like I don't know.

22:24David Karp

Or about just children's items, just get started. Total? Pardon me? Only children's? Well, that way you could bring in a stroller. You could bring in baby clothing. What about the non-family?

22:33Speaker 8

What about the non-family? The non-children.

22:36Speaker 4

Or children's swap and general garage sale.

22:39 – 24:09Speaker 2

I was actually going to ask almost the same thing. How would a combination, I mean, it's just an idea, because based on what you just said, I was thinking the same thing, is having, I don't know, having the clothing part, not clothing part, the clothing part being the swap part, and then have everything else yes in other words everything clothing wise goes into like an area you know what i mean and it just gets put there and people can just like push up this can pick and choose what they want and then what engages people is they'll want to come because there are other valuable items because you just have clothing people be like i don't need any clothing they're not going to come okay so if you make it more intriguing i think that's you know the best of both okay you'll be curious they'll be curious yeah a little bit of that but then you have an actual designated area and flea market yeah so this clothing stuff goes into that section and then the flea market part and and if we it doesn't hurt we could charge ten dollars a table or whatever just yeah to get people whatever i mean it just goes back into the fund or whatever or like you said go to a charity it's not a lot of money but let's say you get 20 people or 30 people that's 300 bucks but it's not uh i don't think it's like a money maker i think it's just something to set the tables up and whatever sure just a note on that i'll have to check with legal because anytime like money's coming in yeah it could be free i'm just saying it could be free it's just i'm sure there's a way but there's some logistics donations for this organization is there an organization that surfside

24:10David Karp

you know, facilitates or fosters, or is there anything that needs PR?

24:16 – 24:38Speaker 4

Just to think about, I mean, we have, with the Holiday Toy Drive, we've supported Lotus House, which is a really, you know, it's a women's shelter, you know, I personally like them a lot. But Lotus House and Camilla's House are the two big... And they could take the leftovers?

24:38Joanna Katz

They could take the shopping and ask them to. I think so, yeah.

24:40Speaker 4

They'll take the clothing. They have a thrift shop that's very well curated, but then they also will take stuff for...

24:47David Karp

So we could say in continuation with our Christmas drive donations, all donations would go to Camilla's and Lotus.

24:56 – 25:08Speaker 2

rather than... Also, what about somebody that has, like, a trinket thingy in their house? Like, they do earrings or something like that. Yeah, sure, they can do that. Like, they have, like, a mini business or something. Can they also come to that type of thing?

25:09Speaker 8

I mean, I guess it's good for engagement. We have a lot of people that reach out and want to be in the farmer's market, but it's very limited. Same thing. We'll invite them, too. Why not?

25:17Joanna Katz

Yeah, lots of crafty people.

25:19 – 25:38David Karp

I like that. Yeah, that sounds like a good idea. Okay, so we're all in favor, and we're going to... explain and we'll talk like if you want to talk with Frank and then I'll come over and talk. So over this next month, if you want to talk to Frank privately, can we just make an appointment and flesh it out? So if you'd like to come over and talk to Frank.

25:39Speaker 2

I don't think we should charge unless it's like going somewhere, but I don't think it's necessary really. Maybe you'll talk in the logistics and I'll come over and talk.

25:48 – 26:04Joanna Katz

It might get out of hand. I just think even if it's $10, it'll deter people who just sign up. Give what you want. All donations. I think $10 is like a fee. Yeah, just a little And it also shows you're coming. Exactly. You're reserving your table. It's really interesting. I like that.

26:04David Karp

That's what makes sense. All right. So you'll work out that part, and I'll come over after you work that out.

26:08Joanna Katz

Great. I love it.

26:10David Karp

Anything else on that? Okay. All right. So I want to jump ahead just to prove all minutes.

26:20Speaker 6

Chair, you want to do the town commission liaison report.

26:23David Karp

I have to do what?

26:24Speaker 6

You will have to go down to this.

26:26David Karp

Okay, so let's move it. Okay, so that's all I really want to move ahead those items. So let's go to the town commission liaison report.

26:36 – 26:48Speaker 4

I had no prepared report, so I'm happy to answer any questions. But in the interest of time, we can skip it. Or my report could be that the commission has met

26:51 – 27:22David Karp

uh since we last uh spoke but i don't know that there's anything specific so we want to thank you and commissioner and uh the town manager for coming to the wish activity that was that's helpful and the vice mayor yeah okay that was good too and thank you to frank for having it already thank you and everybody pitching in to help so that was great All right, and then public comments. Is there any public comments?

27:22Mary Henderson

I think you're doing a great job. And you are?

27:26David Karp

I'm from Fort Henderson. Good one.

27:29Speaker 2

Welcome, welcome. I just realized who you are.

27:32Joanna Katz

Yeah, welcome.

27:35Speaker 2

The daughter's familiar. I was trying to figure it out.

27:36David Karp

I was trying to figure it out. Do you want to congratulate her?

27:40Joanna Katz

Congratulations on graduating.

27:42David Karp

We're so proud of you.

27:43Joanna Katz

We really appreciate it.

27:45 – 28:18David Karp

Keep up the good work. And keep up the brainstorming. Okay, so no more public comments? All right, so I'll give everybody a few minutes. It's long to read over the minutes. I didn't see anything. So on the, the number is 9293 and it's the G, capital G at the bottom or something. There's an icon at the bottom to get in. So I'll give you a few minutes.

28:19Speaker 6

Try it for me. to be reviewed before the meeting, and so the members don't take time during the meeting to review.

28:29David Karp

All right, so we'll do that for next time. From January 16th? Yes, yes.

28:37Speaker 8

If you see anything after the fact, you can always, you know, clarify it on the training day.

28:42David Karp

All right, it's quite long. Why don't we approve it, and then you can read it on your own. It's in the email blast you sent, Genesis?

28:51Speaker 6

It's on the agenda, yes. So document with agenda, we get it all.

28:54 – 29:12David Karp

All right, so is there a motion to approve them? I went over them just now. That's the big categories, what was a few things. I didn't see anything, you know, last time we had some typos. But everything here was factual of what we were talking about. Is there a motion to approve the minutes?

29:13Mary Henderson

I'll make a motion to approve the minutes. Okay, is there a second? I second. Okay.

29:18 – 29:32David Karp

And all those in favor, say aye. Aye. And if you have, if that motion passes, if you see anything over the next month, just bring it forward next month and we'll open up that. And then from now on, read it.

29:32Speaker 2

I just want to ask, did we do anything with the vintage Surfside photo exhibit? No, I haven't got that yet.

29:41 – 30:24Mary Henderson

all right so we're okay doing okay um all right now we can go in order 6a wish upon a surfside tree recap mary um well i think it went really great it was like very simple but i mean a lot of people did wish and we had like because it was at the community center i think it was a perfect like environment because little kids would come They would take pictures, like even little, like the parents were like lifting the kids up to do it. So it was just a really nice and sweet idea. And I know that some people's wishes have already come true. So yeah, I think it was great. And it was very wholesome. and a good place for people to just talk and meet and everything.

30:24David Karp

Okay, and the commissioners were there, and the town manager, and we were there in case anybody wanted a voice.

30:29David Karp

Any opinion? Yeah. And just, and put it on for next year, maybe more color, you know, because I'm going by now every day, and I can't see them anymore.

30:38 – 30:57Mary Henderson

I think, like, maybe do, we talked about, I think, like, doing ribbons and having them, like, loop down lower so that people can tie, so it's a little bit more accessible. for everybody, so I think we'll definitely look into making that more accessible and a little bit more vibrant next year.

30:57David Karp

Okay, so the February time? Yeah, that's perfect. Okay, thank you very much for the idea. We all enjoyed everything there. Okay. 6B, Commissioner.

31:07 – 36:06Speaker 4

All right. So I wanted to just bring this idea to the board. I don't think it requires any vote this month, but just to keep you posted on what's going on and actually to keep Frank posted because there have been some developments since we talked about it at the tourist board. Yeah. All right. So I've long... thought that the town, you know, a lot of people don't even know this, Surfside was the home of one of, there have only been 12 Americans who have won the Nobel Prize in literature and one of them lived and died in Surfside. That's Isaac Bashevis Singer. And I think he, if I'm not mistaken, I believe he's also the only Nobel Prize winner in literature to write largely or primarily in Yiddish. And he strikes me as like this, you know, Surfside should be shouting from the rooftops that this person was a resident of our town. It's true that 95th Street is named partly after him, but we really don't do anything to honor his memory or to publicize it. So, I have this proposal going with the Resort Tax Board right now, the Tourist Board, for an event in November, kind of honoring the birthday of Isaac Bashevis Singer, which is believed to be in November, though the exact date is not known. And it's modeled, the Tourist Board, I presented this idea to the Tourist Board at the beginning of this month. They liked it. They haven't approved a final event or budget, but it's going to come back to them next week on March 3rd. The general idea is modeled after an event that the University of Texas at Austin did two years ago to honor what would have been his 120th birthday. And I think the number 120 has a significance in Yiddish because it's like a common wish that somebody live to 120. They had the party for a singer in Austin. We're looking at doing something basically modeled after their event. There would be Well, we want to fly out a professor from the University of Texas to come and kind of preside, give a small lecture. There would be a short film, a Klezmer band, and some food. And all of that would be a tourist board event to be done in the evening. I was checking my email earlier because I, again, wrote to the professor. He seems interested in coming. His name is Itzik Godesman. And I'm hoping he'll confirm his interest, and then the tourist board will vote on it. Monday. So that would be an evening event, and we're proposing November 16th, which is a Sunday for that. I had a really nice meeting yesterday with the vice chair of the tourist board, Judy Martinez, whom I think some of you know, but all of you ought to know because she's great. We had a really nice idea for doing the lecture film inside at the community center, but maybe the Klezmer band outside, if weather is permitting, under the tree. It could be a really nice event. And then, so as a kind of possible add-on, I proposed to Dr. Gottesman that we'd fly him out for two events. The tourist board would pay for his transportation, but in the afternoon there would be like a book club meeting and we would publicize this ahead of time. So the idea would be people would read one of Singer's books or some stories in advance, and he would lead the book club discussion. Then there would be a break, and then there would be the evening event, which is a little more like a party. And I thought that the book club part would be a nice thing for the Community Relations Board to sponsor. What else can I say about this? The idea, there's a lot of moving parts, obviously. A lot of people have to say yes, but it would be to promote it in conjunction with the Miami Book Fair International that starts on the 16th. That Sunday runs to the 23rd. If Godesman says yes, that he'll come, then we already have some ideas for the book. We'll get that publicized. We were going to try to promote it through the Jewish Museum of Florida and the shul and any other cultural organizations that would have interest. So the idea is to try to get this going. And my hope is that this could be a semi, you know, annual event in Surfside. I was kind of imagining, you know, if we have like a Singer Fest, every other year it could be about Singer, and then every other year it could be about some other author that we want to, you know, talk about. But, you know, something like this. So the idea is to have a community book club in November. A lot, right now the current plan hinges on this one person saying yes, but he's not our only.

36:06Joanna Katz

I'll be at UT in March, so could I be helpful? Oh! Yeah, if he says yes, absolutely.

36:12Speaker 4

He's part of something called the Schusterman Center there.

36:19Joanna Katz

I'm there for a week, so I'm happy to be there for any reason. Find his coffee shop.

36:28David Karp

The people that are coming to our events like to talk, so if we do the book club, we could have even cliff notes for one of them.

36:38 – 37:15Speaker 4

I don't know. I just think Singer is such an interesting figure. I mean, you know, I was saying we should be proud of the fact that we have a Nobel laureate, but also it's like so many, you know, people in the town do speak Yiddish. And so he has a real appeal, you know. And then he's also like the ultimate legacy resident. I mean, he's sort of the embodiment of the surf side of the 1970s. Like, you know, he... Do you have photos of him? I was going to... In the surf side? We should. I was going to check with the Jewish Museum to see what they have. Didn't his wife live for a while in Bell Harbor or something? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. They lived in the Surfside Towers in 9511. I don't know.

37:16David Karp

If she stayed after. Do we need a motion for this or you just want to keep exploring?

37:19Speaker 4

I think it's more just to let you know.

37:20David Karp

When is the Taurus meeting that they're talking about this?

37:22Speaker 4

Monday the 3rd and I'm hoping. At what time? That is at 6pm.

37:29David Karp

6pm. Okay, so if one of us could try to go so we can listen to their details. and we know what they're planning.

37:39Speaker 6

He's also recorded and broadcasted, so you can watch it from home as well if you cannot make it.

37:44 – 38:03Speaker 4

So Monday at 6. Yeah, and if anybody didn't want to speak in favor of the event, I mean, I got a pretty positive reaction for the most part from the tourist board. But at least one member was like, we'll fly somebody out. We've never done something like that. And I think it's a good use of the funds, but if there's any doubt on the tourist board.

38:03David Karp

Could you bring up the... about the book talk that you'd like to bring us in, and then one of you and I could try to, we'd be here in case we needed to get up and support it.

38:14 – 38:52Speaker 4

And I wanted to say, if any of you have any ideas or, you know, because I feel like once we start to scratch beneath the surface, there will be lots of connections to him in town, people who knew him, people who might like to speak about him. There's a book called The Bright Streets of Surfside that you know uh that also touches on his time here so if you have any any suggestions those are very welcome the whole thing is kind of in flux and judy martinez uh who's working with me on it you can all talk to her at any time because there's no sunshine issue with the between you and the tourist board so we also have the uh along with that the poet laureate from obama is living in my building now

38:52 – 39:09David Karp

Ricardo Blanco. We have to get something with him. We had a nice event at our mezzanine and we had some snacks, but then he came and he read some of his favorite because he lived in Surfside. So we could think about that for an event.

39:10 – 39:21Speaker 4

He has a poem event. He just has to walk across the street. We don't have to fly. April is poetry month. Do you want me to talk to him? Yeah, it is coming up, but there's time.

39:22David Karp

Is there time for an event in April?

39:24Speaker 4

No. Oh, you can do a weekday.

39:26Speaker 8

A weekday, yeah. Oh, that's true.

39:29David Karp

Okay, so get his things first. Yeah. Okay. That would be cute.

39:35Speaker 8

I'm just curious, have you spoken to the book fair folks at all, like how it could tie in?

39:41 – 39:55Speaker 4

I haven't. I'm hoping the next move I wrote to, I've been in touch with Godesman for a while, but I tried to get him to sort of commit, yes, Sunday. So once I do, then I'll start.

39:56Speaker 4

And once we get the budget from the tourist board.

39:59 – 40:13David Karp

Okay, so we'll wait to make a motion on this for next time after we hear what the tourist board says. Sure, yeah. And then that would be a hotel for them also. Hotel and meals.

40:14 – 40:25Speaker 4

Yes. I proposed The transport, hotel, meals, and an honorarium.

40:25David Karp

All right, so one of us, see if we can go at three in case we need to give support.

40:30Speaker 4

And your contribution would be maybe the food and snacks for the book club. Okay, yeah, I like that.

40:38David Karp

And then you also mentioned something about the movie. What's that?

40:43Speaker 4

Yeah, Frank may know better than I do, but the tourist board is doing an event with the Miami Jewish Film Festival April 6th.

40:51 – 41:04Speaker 8

Yeah, we're just getting the details. So that's not us. But yeah, that'll be Sunday, April 6th. And it'll be the film Bat Shavos, which I think was a big hit at the festival. Hilarious, yeah.

41:04David Karp

You might need to put a little thing for kids.

41:07 – 41:23Speaker 8

But yeah, it's looking like that, and then we will tomorrow be announcing the Miami Film Festival partnership film, which is going to be on Sunday, March 9th, and that's going to be Next Goal Wins. It's like a soccer or feel-good movie with some great actors.

41:23Speaker 4

With a great cast. Yeah, I know.

41:25Speaker 8

Ross Bender and a bunch of people.

41:26 – 42:04David Karp

But we don't need to be involved with that. No, it's just promote within the community. All right, perfect. Yeah, perfect. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Let's see. I just want to skip ahead to 6E about this street, yeah, the scooter and bike safety. So right after we had our meeting last week, last month, because someone wrote to us for us this month or something, then this came out as a... Yeah, we kept that on the homepage and we did a... Can I skip to 6E without making a motion? Okay, I'd like this. Can someone make a motion to skip to 6E? Make a motion to skip to 6E. Second. Second.

42:08 – 42:42Speaker 8

motion passes and I got to thinking about this I really don't you know know what else we can do besides that article we did a push on social and on the website and we filmed a video with the Youth Council and chief and another an officer J so they I've been working on the video for a few weeks. I got a preview of it. It looks really nice, but they told me they wanted to reshoot a couple of things, and so I'll just give them a nudge to see if we can release that over the next week or so, but... Because this was brought to us.

42:42 – 43:04David Karp

Where would it come from, the town, or would it come... I mean, this came up... It was brought for us to do something with that, the memo last month that you walked on, Commissioner. The motion, you know, it was... for us to deal with something like this. Do you have this email? Here it is.

43:06Speaker 2

Scooter. Scooters.

43:10Mary Henderson

Maybe we could do an event that does like a raffle to give out helmets and then maybe give that money away?

43:19 – 43:33Speaker 4

We have organizations locally that will do helmet giveaways. The Chief of Police has been talking about doing a Bike with the Chief event for a while now and I've been kind of gently reminding him. I will remind him.

43:34 – 43:58David Karp

My town did a nice one. They would take the parking lot here and they would, they had a company come, I'm going to check your tires, your bike height, your strap is on correctly. They even engraved on the metal so that if your bike was stolen, not that they would search for it, but if they found one, they could contact you.

43:58 – 44:25Joanna Katz

Another really big thing, other than just helmets in the stands, this just happened two nights ago, we were turning the corner walking A friend and I are walking dogs, and someone came out of nowhere, and it was so close. One of us would have been very injured. And they came straight through the stop sign going, I don't know, as fast as you can go. And it was the first time that's happened to me. I've heard of it happening to other people, but it's petrifying. So I think we really just have to get the laws of the road

44:27 – 44:50David Karp

So I was thinking they'd have like a little obstacle course, a stop sign, you know, a stop, you know, a sidewalk. Wait, you can't go on the sidewalk. So, you know, have a little like, you know, I think some parents, you know, with little kids really would like that before it gets too ingrained. I'd be glad to work with the policeman on something.

44:50 – 45:05Speaker 8

There is a bike safety rodeo that is held in April at Bay Harbor Islands, but it's in partnership with Surf Bay Bouts, so the three municipalities sponsor it. So that already exists. You can always maybe enhance that.

45:05David Karp

Why don't we go to it this, when is it?

45:09Speaker 8

I thought it might be like April 6th. I think it was the 7th event. Yeah, let me see if I can find it now.

45:20David Karp

Why don't we just start with that one and see what they do?

45:23Speaker 8

Yeah, I mean, I think it's a good starting point, knowing that something is already there. Let's see.

45:32 – 45:43David Karp

rather than think it all up ourselves. April 25th. April 25th. Yeah. Okay, so we'll put this on our agenda for next, and one of us try to go so we can see what it's like.

45:44Mary Henderson

When is it? Sorry?

45:45David Karp

April 25th. What day of the week is that? I believe it's that day. Okay, okay. All right, we'll put that on. Friday.

45:52Joanna Katz

Put that on Friday.

45:53 – 47:20David Karp

And that's not a good day either, right? What time? 8 to 10 a.m. Oh. Okay, can you put that on for... next month also and then more all right so 60 I was talking to some residents and I think you and Israel you were bringing this up or no that was me 60 is different what I would like to do is have like a a bank of information. I keep bringing that shooting up. Who would we call if there was another gun going off by accident? Like a handbook, who could we call if we have our first item in our preamble is to intervene if there's a tragedy in the community, or if there were to be a bike accident, what could we do? So that's the only reason what I, I'd like us all to think about that for next time. Who are the contact resources in Miami-Dade County that we could call if we have a tragedy like this? And I think, because that's like, my wife does the gun violence prevention, So that would be one we'd already have in place. Do you understand what I'm trying to say?

47:20 – 47:33Speaker 8

I guess, do you mean like, if something happens like, you know, in terms of like healing processes after, or are you talking about like an immediate response to a tragedy, because wouldn't that just be the police department?

47:34David Karp

Yeah, but if we had to do something for the community,

47:39Speaker 8

in response to something that happened?

47:40 – 47:52David Karp

Yes, because that was our sort of mission statement. I hate to look at the tragedies first, but they're the ones that we could get actual resource people right away.

47:53Joanna Katz

Are you saying, David, that we need a plan for if a tragedy happens, we need to know, do we meet right away, and then what our plan is from there?

48:03David Karp

Yeah, I like that better. But who would we call right away to say, okay, at the community center, we have this person to deal with?

48:12 – 48:45Joanna Katz

I see what you're saying. So maybe mental health. Thank you. I think mental health and for support in general for our community if something happens. So we need to maybe target some groups. So for instance, there's the children's bereavement group. Yes. And there's different groups that we can make a list. And I can get those names from a friend of mine who's a service type. No, not anymore. No, service type. She's the head of the mental health at Beach High. I'll get her to give us the list of all their resources, maybe, for all the mental health stuff.

48:46David Karp

A fire. You know, here we'd have the Red Cross ready, so we wouldn't have to go searching for all this.

48:52Joanna Katz

Oh, okay, good idea. Or not just a kind of booklet, pamphlet.

48:56 – 49:10David Karp

And then we could have our meeting when sadly something happens, and we could call, you know, have Frank call. Are you available to come and meet with us to help? Does that make sense? Any thoughts? That's why I brought it up.

49:11Mary Henderson

We have to be prepared for the worst, but hope for the best.

49:15 – 49:35David Karp

Yes, exactly. And I think those are more tangible than, you know, the election, you know, I think. Let's hold on, the real issue is to help the town out in case of a, that's more of a crisis than anything. Okay, do you want to think about that for next?

49:36 – 51:03Speaker 2

Before it gets to that point of a tragedy, my question is, I was speaking to Gerardo briefly. about the last incident that I saw. I mean, I had already known because I had gotten an email from the Jewish community saying that there were two or three kids that were hit riding scooters in Surfside. And they said, be careful and watch, stop at the stop signs and so on and so forth. And literally a week later, I was walking home from synagogue and there were police there wrapping up, you know, one of these kids went to the hospital and they gave the guy a citation, I guess. I'm not sure even what happened. I think he might have... Did you find out anything? I think he ran the stop sign or... I'm not sure what happened, but I don't know if he didn't see the kid or what happened, but the kid said he stopped and the guy didn't. He ran the stop sign and didn't see the kid. And basically, you know, I had spoken to my friend about it, not just Gerardo, I spoke to a friend of mine who's on, I'm sure you've heard of it, but every time I tell people, they're like, no, I've never heard of it. Does everybody in here know what Hutzel is? Yeah, of course. So the question was, why weren't they even called? It took them 20 minutes to get an ambulance there. Can you imagine if somebody got really hurt?

51:04Speaker 4

I feel like there's no... You took at least 20 minutes, you say?

51:06 – 51:56Speaker 2

No, no, no, not at least. The medics. It took them 20 minutes to get there. So why would it take so long, you know, without solo call? Because there's probably four or five community people involved. They do it for everybody. It's not just a Jewish organization that just does it for Jewish people. They do it for everybody. So they're there to save lives and have a quick response time. They work hand-in-hand with the active first responders, and they work hand-in-hand with the medics that end up coming anyway. So it happened with my son probably about two years ago when he just collapsed. And the first thing that we did was call Hatzalah. And Hatzalah came within like three minutes. Like literally three minutes.

51:56Speaker 6

I have to leave.

51:57Speaker 2

I was just telling her which items.

52:00David Karp

Sorry. Go ahead.

52:05 – 52:34Speaker 2

What I was saying was that I wish there was a way, I mean, I don't want to do advertising for them because I don't know if they want to be overloaded, but the reality is, is there a resource that the community should know about, which I feel like not that many people do know. They see the ambulances and so on and so forth, think there should be that resource or that knowledge that people can call them immediately and they'll be there literally within a minute or so. I mean, that's their response.

52:34 – 52:49Speaker 8

Who calls them? I know I had an allergic reaction here two years ago. It just came on right before a commission meeting, and they came in before Miami-Dade. But I mean, I don't know who. Probably our police. department.

52:49Speaker 2

So they're super responsive. I don't know if the police department here has the guns, but I feel like they should know that that's a resource.

52:56Speaker 8

I mean, we can check on that.

52:58Speaker 2

Because they come so quick. And when I say they come quick, I would say within two minutes.

53:02Joanna Katz

So maybe we want to make their contact more available to everyone in a way that's, it's sort of, we put it in the newsletter.

53:12Speaker 2

Yeah, maybe having it as a research, 911 police.

53:16David Karp

Does the commission need to approve this? I mean, I'll run it by them. I think we can ask. I think it would be helpful to have it be more.

53:25 – 53:36Speaker 2

They're all medics. They operate under the government. Right here. Yeah, so it's just like a private ambulance service, but it doesn't cost anybody anything. Okay. It's all volunteer and paid for by volunteers.

53:36Speaker 8

I can run that by the time I don't think we'll get any addiction and it's all good.

53:41 – 53:58Speaker 2

Literally a few seconds could save somebody's life. Somebody in a condo is having a heart attack or something and they don't know where to go. They're going to call and it's going to take them 20 minutes. They're going to be cloned on it. So it's better to have a faster resource since it's here in this community. It's not in every community. It's in the bigger cities.

53:58Speaker 8

Right, it's in Surf Bay Valley.

53:59Speaker 2

Right, so this is a good resource that everyone should know about, not just thinking it's just a Jewish thing. It's for everybody. I think that's a good resource.

54:08David Karp

And if one could come and talk to our committee that night.

54:10Speaker 2

That's not a bad idea.

54:12David Karp

If we can get somebody from that solar organization to come. You like Moises? Who? Moises. Where am I?

54:18 – 54:31Speaker 2

I don't know. I don't really know any of the ones active. The only one I knew was... I forget his last name, but he helped a long time with it for something else. Is Ben's name on it?

54:32Speaker 8

Ben Jacobson.

54:34 – 54:51Speaker 2

Yeah, I don't know anybody on it, honestly. I don't know one person. I mean, my neighbor was on it, but he's not on it anymore. My neighbor across the street was on it, but he's not on it anymore. He was very active. He had some political thing that he couldn't do. They wouldn't let him do it anymore.

54:51 – 55:11David Karp

Sorry about interrupting that. I'm going to turn this over to Joanna. She's going to talk about 6D. It was something I talked to you about. And then 6F and 6G. Anything else you want to bring up? Thank you, everybody. Thank you.

55:11Joanna Katz

Good luck with your next meeting. Okay.

55:13David Karp

Money. Assessment.

55:15Speaker 4

Are you sharing that one also? No.

55:17Joanna Katz

Have a good week. Okay.

55:22 – 55:34Joanna Katz

All right, so next we're going to do 60, and it's Surfside Residents' Expectations for Respect. And I feel like, well, you had some conversations with, you did, right?

55:34 – 59:47Speaker 2

Oh, so, yeah, so recently, I'm not really solely political or get involved in politics at all, and I realized that You know, I wanted to, I'm not even like a big social media type of guy, but I recently was forced to, or should I say persuaded to join Nextdoor because there was a lot of hype about it. Like all of a sudden, like a lot of drama and things going on. So, I kind of felt like when I was hearing things, like, I don't know what's true, what's not true. So, I said, all right, let me get involved. And, you know, I decided to, you know, go on Nextdoor and, you know, registered. And I'd never been on it. I had it in Baltimore, but I never used it. I never went on it at all. It just popped up on my thing. It forced me to register, and I never used it. But when I came here, I didn't want to use it either. I didn't even think about it, but everybody kept saying next door, next door, next door. And so I'm like, oh, my gosh, what's the hype? So I registered on it, and to my dismay, I saw a lot of, like, a lot of... I mean, I guess a lot of friction with neighbors. And to be honest with you, it kind of troubled me. It made me very concerned because I feel like one of the reasons I joined this community relations board is, you know, if we're living in a small town, it's not like, you know, a huge town like Manhattan. We're in a very small town and I see people every day and I think we all see each other every day. And it's gotten to a point where it's become mostly dirty politics. And I don't know if that's the platform that it's specifically used for because I feel like when I looked at other communities, I didn't see any of that. I saw like, hey, I'm missing my cat or something about bulk trash or something about somebody didn't know about a certain thing that was going on or an event. So I felt like this should be more, I felt like Nextdoor, which I believe it is, supposed to be more community oriented and neighborly and that's why it's called next door neighbor because it's supposed to be more of a friendly application to connect your neighbors not to have bickering and fighting and stuff like that so my question is is there a way I don't think we can regulate it but is there a way that we can try to persuade some of these neighbors who are being unfriendly to be a little more friendly and cordial so that we can have like a nicer smoother thing and maybe when people start talking politics maybe we eliminate that or try to and I don't know if that's even possible I'm just my goal is is to try to eliminate the friction and on the Nextdoor app so that it becomes more friendlier because I feel like it's creating more division. So I'd love to hear your ideas, if there are any. I have no clue. I mean, when I went on, like I said, I would see things that I was very shocked about. I would see people literally attacking each other. And I was just like, this is not right. Like, we could all be friendly here. You know, I mean, we all came together when the Surfside Towers collapsed as one. And, you know, that was Surfside Strong. I still think we could be that Surfside Strong without any diversity. So if we can do that, I believe that this app is a huge start because it's like the heart of everybody's bickering. You know what I mean? So I think if we can figure out how to make it a little more friendlier and not so divisive. I think that would be a good start. I'm not saying we're going to be able to change the whole thing all over, but I think if we can come up with some creative ideas to interject or maybe be a little more friendlier or try to promote that friendliness on there. And we can't police everybody, but the reality is I would love to hear everybody's thoughts if it's possible to do something like that. Or if anyone has any sort of solutions.

59:48 – 1:00:05Joanna Katz

I think everybody hides behind their keyboard and half those names aren't even real names. They're really there to cause division and drama. So the people that you meet on the streets are not, for the most part, those people. And there's a few people that are on there. There's a handful. There's a handful, for sure.

1:00:05 – 1:00:30Speaker 8

That, you know, are residents and they do, you know, like to go back and forth. One thing I can think of is maybe... perhaps continuing this conversation and inviting somebody like Robert Lisman, who is like, you know, the administrator for sure, because I think he can regulate or, you know, the town can't regulate at all, but I think Robert, you know, might have some ideas.

1:00:30Joanna Katz

There's a couple moderators, I believe, that are supposed to be. Maybe we should have all of the moderators come in and discuss. They could do an event, yeah. Yeah.

1:00:38 – 1:00:50Speaker 4

I mean, it's tricky. There is, you know, right, there's a First Amendment issue if the town regulates anything, so we don't want to get involved in that.

1:00:50 – 1:01:25Joanna Katz

We did talk about having the youth council get involved with, and I did text a couple of the girls, and they, I mean, I think they would do, I don't know if we have anything in mind for them, the young women. we could do something with the Youth Council about bullying and adult bullying and online bullying, because it is a problem. It's a problem nationwide, in the world, actually. People are... they get behind their keyboard and they all of a sudden want to... Like I said, I went to other communities and I didn't see any of that.

1:01:26Speaker 2

I think it does happen. Four or five communities that surrounds us because you have access to some of them. So I'm just curious to go into other things. And I didn't see any of it. Zero. Probably less.

1:01:36 – 1:01:47Speaker 8

It's just become the place where everybody goes to... argue about different things that are going on at the political level and also complain about the administration.

1:01:47Speaker 2

Is it because here everybody's closer and everybody knows the politics that are going on?

1:01:54 – 1:02:14Speaker 8

I think to some extent, yes. And also what's going to make it more challenging over the next year is that we're you know, going to be an election season before you know it. So, you know, you're already seeing some stuff because of this special election. It's really just one question. But once this becomes the commission's election, it's going to probably heat up again.

1:02:16Speaker 2

So do you have any suggestions on how to counteract it or balance it a little bit?

1:02:20Joanna Katz

I like the idea of engaging our moderators.

1:02:24Speaker 8

I think engaging their moderators, the locals, I think that's probably the best thing I can think of.

1:02:28Joanna Katz

Yeah, I think so too. I think that's a good idea.

1:02:30Speaker 8

Because, you know, again, that political atmosphere is going to come. I mean, we all get emails and I don't see people backing down from that.

1:02:40 – 1:03:02Joanna Katz

Yeah, the five or six real people that are on there all the time, I think they love... They love the negative attention. So I don't think giving them more attention is going to do anything other than bolster more of their negativity. I don't think they're going to all of a sudden change their point of view. But the moderators, I'd love to hear from them how they moderate.

1:03:03 – 1:03:44Speaker 2

So it's not so much the negativity, I think it's more the attacking. So I think it's okay to say, well, you know, you don't like something or whatever, but when you start attacking another person, another neighbor, I'm like, what's going on here? You know what I mean? So I think that, and I know that Nextdoor has rules and regulations, but they're not as strict and they're not as things saying, well, you shouldn't be bullying or you shouldn't be whatever. There is like hate speech and harassment and things like that. It has to be very extreme. Right, it has to be very, right. So I saw that. But like I said, there's really no way to enforce it, but I think if we can, like, I think that's a good idea to get some, who's the, the moderators are... Well, I know Robert Lizna is one of them.

1:03:44Speaker 8

He probably knows. Yeah, he probably knows.

1:03:46Speaker 2

If we can get, if we can get, like, maybe we can try to engage them and tell them the concerns and how, maybe they can come up with some ideas. They might have some solutions.

1:03:56Speaker 8

Yeah, we can reach out to you.

1:03:58Joanna Katz

You can ask them to come to one of our meetings.

1:04:01 – 1:04:34Speaker 2

And the reason I said about the negativity, because it's just an opinion. Somebody might say, well, I don't want undergrounding, and the other one says, I do want undergrounding. So it's not, one person might not like it, and the other person might like it. So it's not like a negative, you know what I'm saying? So it's just a matter of opinions. Those things wouldn't be attacking. Attacking would be like, well... Well, you're an idiot. Right, right. Exactly. Exactly. So you get the drift. We all want to share, we all want to engage in people's opinions and hear what they have to say, but not when they're attacking each other. Agreed.

1:04:37 – 1:04:54Speaker 4

I will say just one of my inspirations for the board was the idea that by having more events where people do meet and talk face-to-face, that creates an alternative. I mean, I realize it doesn't... Next door still is what it is, but you don't want it to be the main place.

1:04:54 – 1:05:44Joanna Katz

There's a person I don't know personally, but I know him from meetings and on next door, and he's always incredibly rude. And the other day I was walking along the beach and I saw him, he doesn't know me, and he had an empty bottle of water sitting next to him. And I said, can I throw that out for you? And he said, oh, you're such a sweetheart, thank you so much. And we had this lovely interaction. And yet, it's never late. I know every time at the meetings it's very gruff, it's very abusive, so many things. That's the whole point of it. I'm sure he's a perfectly lovely guy if you meet him one-on-one. But in meetings and online, he has a very... You're right that if we have these moments where we can interact on a human level and everyone finds their humanity, but it's just like Yeah. Nextdoor is terrible for it. It's so, it's all social media.

1:05:44 – 1:06:04Speaker 4

I mean, this reminds me, I mean, it's kind of, I don't want to take the topic away from Nextdoor and social media, but somebody did come to me once with a question about, like, you know, could the Community Relations Board do something just to help, like, people who have neighbor disputes? Like, not any formal arbitration or anything, but, like, how do you deal with, like...

1:06:06Joanna Katz

People's court. Yeah.

1:06:09 – 1:06:21Speaker 4

Or something, you know, and I just thought that was an interesting thing too, is like, how do you get people together who are... Yeah. you know, butting heads, and it's easy to butt heads in certain situations, but maybe there's something... I know a few of them.

1:06:21 – 1:06:32Joanna Katz

Our houses are close together, and there's a lot of things that can be, you know, made bigger than they need to be, so that's a good idea. What could we do?

1:06:33 – 1:07:02Mary Henderson

Do you think that you could reach out to that speaker again? Absolutely. Yeah, and I think that having another workshop specifically focused on neighborhoods like when it comes to online meetings all of that like how do we respect each other in like our spaces because you know we could be a public to meet the friendliest people but then right when we get online or get to a meeting that's tense it's a good idea that's a great idea i like that okay yeah it's good um

1:07:04 – 1:08:10Speaker 2

Yeah, it's really good. One of the examples that, when you said that, the first thing I'm thinking of is there's this neighbor. So, like, we have, like, parking. Like, no parking on our, like, park there because there's all this construction and people parking there, especially now that the signs are gone. So, they're, like, sitting there all day. So, when we pull up, there's no parking. So, we park, like, a little bit down the street so we can... not blocking anyone's driveway and there's two neighbors they're like why are you parking here like sort of like there's no parking on either part of the street now so they get upset we try to like well we'll park over there and we'll park over there and then they're like you know same thing um and it's not just us it's other neighbors too i'm saying they're just you know but i see that and they get irritated because someone else is parking in their so-called designated area, so they're upset about it, but I don't know what to do. I brought it up to the police chief and to Mark Blumstein, and he said that the signs were removed temporarily, but it started when the signs got removed, because now our whole street's like full.

1:08:12 – 1:08:25Speaker 2

Um, so hopefully it'll be fixed shortly, but that's like an issue that you're really talking about, like something like that, or not really? Well, you know, um... I mean, these are like neighborly disputes. I mean, they're not, we're not disputing.

1:08:25Mary Henderson

Yeah, or just, yeah, I don't know. Just little tics and stuff kind of like that?

1:08:29 – 1:08:46Speaker 4

Yeah, I mean, the person who mentioned it was having a, was having a concern about, like, leaves tree branches coming over but you're sort of like what I don't know what can go wrong in a relationship and how do you fix it at a very abstract level I don't know I don't know what can be done but um

1:08:51 – 1:09:56Joanna Katz

I like the idea of calling Isaac Carter and seeing if there's something he can do for a workshop. And maybe we can come up with something that's very interactive and very helpful for how to... I've mentioned this before, but my fence in my backyard is 12 feet high. because there was a variance, because the people before us and my behind neighbor threw dead fish back and forth at each other because they disliked each other. Mature. Yeah, very mature. So if we can avoid dead fish being thrown over fences for people, I think that's... And there's things like that every day in Surfside that we don't realize there's some... Yeah, neighborly disputes that will probably get out of control, so I don't know if there's something else we can do that's, we can brainstorm it, that's interactive and will bring their grievances. Yeah, like a swear jar, just for... A swear jar, and nobody reads it, it's complicated.

1:09:56Mary Henderson

Like a padded room, we put them in and they can't come out until they've figured it out.

1:10:01Speaker 2

Maybe when you speak to this guy, you could ask him what he suggests also. Yeah, definitely. See if there's, besides the workshop, besides the coming and speaking, maybe he can create a workshop.

1:10:09 – 1:10:29Speaker 8

Maybe we could film like some, you know, like a video or something that we could circulate with his recommendations, just kind of like quick tips, you know, because that's something that could live on beyond just like a one event and go on social media, on YouTube, on 663, and kind of just keep pushing those reminders so that hopefully they stick.

1:10:31 – 1:11:02Speaker 4

Post on the next one. Yes. Start it with the next one. But I do wonder, are there you know, really like informal mediator types. You could, you could say like, Hey, look, if you have a neighbor, you know, come on in, we'll have a, we'll have the workshop where you, you know, yeah, I don't know. Yeah. It's, it's something to think about, but the, the, I, the conversation moved away, I think. And I apologize for that from the online, which was, which is its own very real problem.

1:11:02 – 1:11:32Joanna Katz

So I don't, I don't know. Okay. Anything else on this topic? Alright, moving on to liaison selection for Miami-Dade County Community Relations Board. So my note here from David is Shirley has not yet responded. I have no idea. Surely you can't be serious.

1:11:32Speaker 6

I think that was the contact that the town manager had given the board from the memory day. For their board. For their board.

1:11:48Speaker 8

So... Do we know how often they meet? I think they meet quarterly. I believe. Yeah.

1:11:56 – 1:12:13Joanna Katz

Okay, maybe we table that until, since I'm not 100% sure what David's plan is for that. We'll find out when they need, so we have that information. Maybe one of us shows up and has some questions. 6G, vintage photography, exhibition.

1:12:14 – 1:13:40Speaker 8

Yes, so we put that out a few weeks ago, I want to say. I think it was in the February Gazette. We've circulated. So far, no photos. Nobody has sent me anything. So, you know, I just hope you guys can spread the word and work your magic and try to get your neighbors. If you know longtime Surfside residents or your family is a longtime Surfside resident, we can just try to get as many photos as possible. I know I'm going to film another couple of episodes with Bob Fisher on Thursday. If you know him, I know his family has been in Surfside for a long time, so I'm hoping we can get a few photos from him. Also keep in mind that we're not sure the quality of the photos that we're going to get so for example if you know somebody sends us like a photo of an old photo that's very small you know a low quality photo may not work to blow up so we kind of have to see what we get before we know we can really what we can really do with it but obviously in an ideal world you know a larger high resolution images are preferred those will look you know, lend themselves to printing and some type of exhibition. But I know Vice Mayor was also gonna, you know, go through her records and look for some photos. So I'm sure, you know, we'll start getting some, but please, you know, help spread the word. And, you know, we really need that content for this too.

1:13:40 – 1:14:30Speaker 2

There are people that are adults right now that grew up here, that have seen so many of them. They're like, oh yeah, I lived here when I was a kid and I actually moved back here. or they were in their mom's house or something like that and they moved back and they stayed in their mom's house after their family passed away or they got sick or whatever. So I see a lot of that here. So I was shocked because I'm like, wow, you were here for like 40 years or 50 years? I'm like, that's crazy. So there are a lot of people like that. If we can tap into those resources somehow. I mean, I know one of them, also was Rita Spector. She said she had lived here, she went to school here, and so she's like one person that I could think of. I don't really know that many people that are older that would, you know, that are They have a history. But if we know anybody, we should reach out to them. I just said two people. Yeah, Barb or someone.

1:14:30Speaker 8

I mean, I'm trying to think of whoever I know.

1:14:32Joanna Katz

Barb has been here a long time. Walter, how do you know?

1:14:35Speaker 2

There's a few other people also that I can't think of their names. Yeah, yeah. I should have quite a lot. Do you know any people also that might have been here before?

1:14:45Speaker 4

Yeah, yeah. You know, your neighbor across the street is my friend, 9208. Oh, yeah. No, but who?

1:14:49Speaker 2

You're talking about...

1:14:54Speaker 4

Michelle and... Who? No, next to them. Next to Michelle and... Oh, okay.

1:14:59Speaker 2

So I don't really know them that well. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they moved... Right. They moved into... That's also right. So, yeah. So...

1:15:09Speaker 4

Good amount of that. So I see a lot of that. We have a deadline in April, right?

1:15:14Speaker 8

Yeah, I think it might be around April 20th.

1:15:17Speaker 4

It might just be that people are slow to react to a deadline.

1:15:23Speaker 1

I have a question for Frank.

1:15:27Speaker 6

Are you also going to be requesting pictures from our...

1:15:31 – 1:15:53Speaker 8

Yeah, I mean we can always feature because we do have some historical photos and some we got from history Miami So yeah that we can always feature but I think In addition to that we want to kind of like residents perspective of like everyday life or shots from their history But yeah, that's it follows fails. We won't do something with those Great

1:15:56Speaker 4

Everybody's going to have pictures at the Tot Lot, at the 96th Street Park, you know, those kinds of things. The old community center.

1:16:01Joanna Katz

I'm like Brian, I have a lot of pictures. I guess the next question would be how old does old need to be? Can it be 20 years old?

1:16:10Speaker 8

I mean, obviously, it's cool to go way back, you know, the older the cooler, if you will, but we're not going to... Something from the 90s?

1:16:19 – 1:16:49Joanna Katz

Yeah, the 90s is... becoming how long ago feels like 10 years ago yeah all right anything else on photography okay um we talked about the next meeting Great, anything else we need to discuss before we adjourn?

1:16:49 – 1:17:16Speaker 2

Yeah, just to go back on that one thing before I forget, for that vintage photography exhibition, so I just, with all of us here right now, I think the best way to do it is to network, so I want to just finalize that. I just sent Rita a text asking if she has anything. So I think what we need to do is anybody that we know that whatever, reach out to them. And then also ask them if they know anybody that we can reach out to. So in this way we can just get that ability. So we should take that.

1:17:18Speaker 4

Do we have an ability to scan? What do we do if somebody has a vintage photograph?

1:17:22 – 1:17:45Speaker 8

Yeah, like if they have a I mean, you could try scanning it and try taking a clear photo of it with your phone and then emailing that in the highest resolution possible. Sometimes that actually works. It just depends on the quality of the original. It's obviously very important, but a scan or a photo of a photo could work as well.

1:17:47 – 1:17:59Joanna Katz

Yeah, we can let people know if they have to give their photos, we'll give them back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Steal your map. Steal your map, exactly. I'm trying to think if there's any other...

1:17:59Speaker 4

But do we have permission for that? If somebody, like, gives in a photo, like, can they have it scanned here and get it back? Or do we...

1:18:06Joanna Katz

I would assume so, right? Do we have the ability?

1:18:09 – 1:18:20Speaker 8

I don't like here, but now we can, you know, yeah, or like a minute man press that we use a lot here on 79th and just to try to get it to be as good as possible.

1:18:20Joanna Katz

Okay, great. Okay, if there's not anything else, do I motion to adjourn? Well, you can. I'll make a motion to adjourn.

1:18:30Speaker 4

Second that motion. Israel, you're the only one who can second it. No.

1:18:35Speaker 6

Oh, you can? Oh. Yeah, we're good.

1:18:38Speaker 4

I second it? We're good? Alright.

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