Town Council - Regular Meeting

This conference will now be recorded. Please stand as we begin with an invocation offered by Pastor Oki Landers of Pine Drive Gospel Church. Let's pray.

Father, we just as always first humble ourselves before you this evening. Father, you indeed are the God who is there and there is no other. And this evening we come with great thanks, Father. Thank you for this country in which we live. Father, what a blessing. Thank you for the time in which we live. Never have there been blessings in the world such as there are now in the history of man. How, Father, you since the cross and since Christ have just been bringing forth your kingdom into this world. Father, we thank you for this state that we live in. That too is a blessing, but even more for this community of Surfside Beach, Lord, people. And we're so thankful for the leaders you've given us. Truly, their care, Lord, their their government, their their concern. Thank you. And truly I ask your blessing upon this community and I ask your blessing upon our leaders and I ask your blessing upon the meeting this evening that the issue of it would always in as in all things be your glory but also the good of the people in this community. Father but Lord above all thank you for you. Thank you for your only begotten son, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, who in this season particularly, we celebrate the life, the suffering, the death, the resurrection of our Lord and our so great salvation which he has accomplished in all that. But as well, thank you for the person of the Holy Spirit who so graciously applies the benefits of Christ's work and salvation to our lives. Father, we are a thankful people because we are a blessed people and you are the author of all those blessings. So again this evening, bless

this time, bless this meeting, bless these people, bless our leaders, and finally Lord, bless the churches, help us to do our duty to the betterment of this community in the bringing forth of your kingdom in it. In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, I pray. Amen. Amen. Amen. To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

All right. Thank you very much. We're going to begin this meeting with a public hearing um for ordinance 26 uh in in advance of ordinance 26-099 to amend the fiscal year 2526 municipal budget. Um yeah, that's it. Um you you want to say a few words? I didn't know you wanted me to talk about this now.

Well, we have to do the public hearing first, but yeah, just explain what we're doing. Basically, this is our budget amendment for the year for the leftover accommodations tax revenue from prior year and also to add the revenue that we will we are receiving for the sale of property and using a little bit of our um land parking fund reserve to purchase the lot for public works.

Thank you very much. Are there any comments related to the public hearing? All right, we will move on and uh we will now move on to item number four, motions relating to the agenda. All right, I hear none. So, we'll go to minutes approval for uh our last meeting. Mr. Mayor, Mr. H. I'll make a motion that we approve the town council meeting minutes for Tuesday, March 24th, 2026. Second.

Any discussion? All in favor? I opposed. None. Motion carries unanimously. Minutes are approved. We'll now go into public comments. This is agenda items only. All right. I see none. So, we will now go into our business items and we will begin with the first reading of the budget amendment ordinance. So, uh uh before we start, I'd like to have a motion to approve that. Mr. Mayor, Mr. standing. I'd like to make a motion that we accept the ordinance I mean the amendment to the document of 26-099 for the fiscal year of 2526

second. All right. Do you want to say a few more words? just um what was left over from the a text in their recommendation. Everything is in your packet um was 164,206 to distribute and then again we're receiving 140,000 for our sale of land. We're using 5,000 of our reserve. Any questions, comments for Director Guber?

I think several of us attended the AEX meeting. I don't know if everybody was there, but we've seen the results. Um, certainly we've uh we're aware of the uh property sale. So, um, yeah, Mr. Is it worth at least mentioning what we're talking about buying so that the public understand? Yes. Um, for the police, we're looking at three Motorola portable radios and chargers for the beach. um ambassadors. Correct. The three um Motorola radios are for the beach ambassadors.

Yes. And then um law enforcement utility vehicle, a roto decon washer for self-contained breathing breathing apparatus, three battery powered portable ventilation fans for fire, um a portable stage for events, uh a fountain at uh Fuller Park, and more beach access pavers. because that's all the a tax and then again purchasing the land. Any other questions? I have some questions. Mr. Hy,

not for you so much, Miss Mrs. Groover, but um for the chief, police chief, and the fire chief. for the police chief. Um, I did a little research and found out that besides Motoras, Kenwoods are an extremely good radio that are equally, in fact, in some areas they might exceed Motoras. So, I'm kind of interested in why we're spending about $8,000 a radio when we could have a Kinwood radio that would do the same thing for $2 to $3,000 less each. So the biggest reason is uh compatibility with the 911 system both Surfside Beaches uh dispatch console and the bigger picture the Ory County 911 system. Uh the the Kenwood system would not be compatible. The Motorola is what Ory County goes with. It's what our infrastructure is built around. So if we go to Motorola then everything's interoperable. So we can talk to the county. The county is getting ready to go digital in January. Uh or they were supposed to go in January. Any minute now they're going to go dig. they're going to go encrypted and we would not be able to talk to them at all unless we have the not not only um Motorola radios but they're the ones that have our encryption capable. Um and same with our dispatcher setup were all Motorola as well. Um nowadays the the technology is proprietary so it's all digital encrypted. You have to have encryption keys. So different manufacturers are not really compatible with each other. So whatever entity you go with, that's what you're you're going to be with that that that manufacturer for the long period of time. So if we were to just change over to Kenwood, we would have to change our whole dispatch and every all our whole communication infrastructure and then we would have to pay maintenance fees on that because currently with Motorola and with the county, the county maintains all of our stuff for free and programs all of our stuff for free. So we don't

have to have a radio tech. they don't have to pay an outside vendor. Um, it's all that cost is absorbed by the county and they like it that way because it helps them too because now they can manage our since we're working off their system, it keeps their system uh more secure because they are programming our radios, maintaining our radios. So, it's a cost savings to us in the long run. Um, and we and most importantly, it's interoperability. So, we can talk to the county, we can talk to the other agencies as well. So, so basically Motorola has a monopoly and has us over a barrel and we have to pay their premium fees whether we want to or not. Is that

that's one way to look at it or county decided that's how they wanted to go that was a better product for them and so we're you know if we wanted to be interoperable with the county we'd have to deal with that as well. All right. Well, thank you for that. But another question I have for you is on the utility vehicle. I understand why you want the vehicle so that the beach services I mean beach ambassadors can respond in town from the beach which makes a lot of sense directly and and if I was in your shoes I'd want the same thing but we have an old vehicle not so old I think it like bought a year ago that we're not going to be using anymore is there chance we could sell that and maybe offset the cost of this

so this is different than the uh ones that the beach ambassadors are currently using and it's not for beachass ambassadors for actual police officers. Oh, okay. So, the beach ambassadors, we we rotate those out every year to John's not here. Uh depending on the the because of the sand and the salt, they only last for a certain period of time. So, we rotate them out. And so, we always trade that in and get a new one.

Trade that one and get a new one. This is a this is completely different. This is a marked um law enforcement UTV utility vehicle specifically made, manufactured, outfitted by the manufacturer with emergency response equipment. So the officers now, what the officers have to do now is when they want to go do a beach patrol, they have to call the beach ambassador to park their car. They come and pick them up in the in unmarked uh John Deere Kabota and they get to drive the beach with the with the beach ambassador. It's unmarked. they don't um and then if they have to get a go to a call, they have to have the beach ambassador drive back to their

back to their car and they have to go in the response. Um also, if there's an emergency response on the beach, they'd have to go get a vehicle, a truck to access the beach on four-wheel drive. We know that that's probably not the best idea to have trucks out there. Um so, so it's just a safer way, quicker way to for law enforcement to respond in a response um manufactured vehicle. So even if we took one of the old ones instead of trading in and tried to retrofit it, it really wouldn't meet the same purpose and it would put us at higher liability. We wouldn't be able to use it for emergency response. Um and so and we won't have to replace this every two years because it's not going to get the use that the that the beach ambassadors are constantly using all day long. It's going to get a little bit of use, you know, a few times a week while the long while the the police officers can control now on their own and not be at the mercy of the of the beach ambassadors to pick them up. Um, and they also can, like I said, they can respond all around town in it, not just on the beach.

So, there's not going to be a surplus vehicle. Based on Okay, that's was kind of my question. Thank you, Chief. I appreciate that. Sorry if I give you a long-winded answer. You didn't. No, you did fine. Thank you. I have one question for uh Chief Nelson. Um, Chief, you've got three batterypowered portable ventilation fans. Yes, sir. But my understanding is we only have two trucks that respond. So, why do we need three? We have three trucks that spawn. We have an aerial, we have an engine, and we have a resting bumper. Okay. I didn't And then we also have a utility truck, and we have another pickup truck. So, we don't put those on there. Okay. Thank you.

Any other questions, comments? All right. The uh motion on the table is to approve the first reading of the ordinance. uh approving the ATEX or the budget amendment. Uh Miss Medina, will you call the RO? Miss Fallon? Yes. Mr. Hyatt? Yes. Mr. Yes. Mr. Walls? Yes. Mr. Coin? Yes. Mr. Stamy? Yes. Mayor?

Yes. Motion carries unanimously. The uh budget amendment is approved. Now we'll move on to 7B. Uh it's a uh change the senior citizens advisory committee. uh meeting frequency I guess is basically it. I'll ask for a motion before we get started. And and yeah, Miss Sean, you've got your name on it, so you may as well do it. I'd like to make a motion to modify the resolution of the general Surfside Beach South Carolina approving charter language change for the senior citizens advisory committee regarding meeting requirements.

All right. Uh you want to give us an idea what's going on?

Yes. Um this committee is a well old machine and when we start giving out assignments to the committee members they're more longterm than short term because you have to remember we also have to work with the county and you know every time you have to reach out to a different entity it takes longer. So to keep having meetings month after month, uh we assign potlucks. We, you know, everything gets assigned out one meeting. So we figured that it would be beneficial to have it as needed. Um we could always have workshops, but this um committee has already planned potluck lunches, field trips. They're involved in the yard sale this weekend. So it's really long-term topics that they're doing. Okay. Any uh questions, comments related to that? I have question. All right. So, basically what we're doing is we're just going to go from a required monthly meeting to a flexible anytime we want meeting. Is that all this is really doing?

Yes. Thank you. Okay.

I'm going to make a comment more than a question. it it you know we've got a few committees in town that um they're not political in any way you know for instance uh this this one here community garden committee KSBB uh historical society and uh I I mean we still have to follow the the rules I guess for um meeting conduct and so forth but I I do like the idea of relaxing uh and and and helping these committees to meet their objectives without maybe the rigor that we have to put in on some political ones. So in general I would tend to support this.

Anybody else uh have any comments? I have another question if I can. You may. Um, I don't know how uh the senior citizen advisory committee was instructed to have monthly meetings, but if it was by ordinance, I believe we would have to change it by ordinance, not by motion, we put it in the charter of this committee. So, we are revising the charter. Okay. In this case, all right. Thank you. And that was the uh language that was provided to us. And you have it right there. I think I saw it. I just didn't comprehend all of it.

Anything else? All right. The motion on the table is to uh amend this charter as needed for the uh meeting requirements. Miss Medina, will you call the RO? Men? Yes. Mr. Hyatt? Yes. Mr. Yes. Mr. W. Yes. Mr. Yes. Mr. Mayor. Yes. Motion carries unanimously. The charter is revised. Okay. Um cruising.

We are item. Famous last words. Um item 7 C. We're looking at the uh uh planning commission couple of planning commission recommendations. So I'll ask for a motion on uh on 26-215 first. Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion that we accept resolution 26-0215, planning commission, recommending that the town council find the architectural plans for the new civic center prepared by Creature and Associates to be consistent with the Surfside Beach comprehensive plan.

All right, we have a second. Director Broner, would you like to just give us a few words? As you know, the planning commission has a responsibility whenever a project is being proposed, particularly a construction project such as this, to make a finding that the project and the funding of the project is consistent with a comprehensive plan. Um, Creian Associates was kind enough to come to do a full meeting with us and did a full presentation. Many questions got asked all over the board relative to the design and all sorts of things. and the planning commission unanimously felt that it was consistent with the comprehensive plan and asked me to write a resolution and send it to you for your approval.

All right. Thank you, sir. Any questions, comments? All right. Then the motion on the table is to approve the recommendation from the planning commission on the uh courthouse council chamber relative to the comprehensive plan. Miss Padina, Mr. Stamy, yes. Mr. Coleman, yes. Mr. Walls, yes. Mr. Lawhorn, yes. Mr. Yes. M. Yes. Yes. Motion carries unanimously and the recommendation is accepted. Let's move on to uh the next one. Again, a planning commission recommendation. You want me to do that?

Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion that we approve resolution 26-0216, planning commission, recommending that the town council fund the proposal, personal flotation device, loan st loaner stations, and associated standing structures to be consistent with the Surfside Beach comprehensive plan. Thank two.

Once again, the planning commission met on this project. Fire department was kind enough to do a full presentation for us. I believe the planning commission really liked this project, voted unanimously to send the resolution to you in support of the project and and making sure that it was consistent with the comprehensive plan. They made that finding as well as part of their resolution. Thank you very much. Any questions? questions or comments? I have a question. Hi. Um, when this first came to council, we asked them to consider adding a riptide escape instruction board for uh plaque to these panels. Do you know if that was ever incorporated?

I believe it was discussed. I don't have knowledge of whether it was whether they did that or not. I think Captain Kelly might have some information on that. Uh yes, speaking with the safe kids representative, uh we redone the sign for these independent ones and it's going to be that because she had to reach out to NOAA to make sure that they were okay with it. It'll be that with their QR code. So the the premise of the whole signage will actually be the RIP current. There will be some life jacket loader board information on it, but the QR code is what will direct them to more of the fitment and all that. So that will be the premise of it is the rip current

and we'll also have the throw ring. Thank you for repeating that down. I appreciate any others. All right. The motion on the table is to accept the recommendation from the planning commission to approve the uh stations the the personal flotation device uh loaner stations along the beach. Miss Padina, will you call the role? Mr. Yes. Mr. Yes. Mr. Milton, yes. Mr. Walls, yes. Mr. Coleman, yes. Mr. Steing, yes.

Yes. Motion carries unanimously and the uh recommendation is accepted. All right. We are now into item uh 7E, kiosk applications. And uh Mr. Vincent, I'm going to invite you to speak before we make a motion because we don't really know what we're doing right here. Okay. Without your without your words.

Okay. Well, Mr. Mayor, council, good evening. Um, with the approval by the town council on March the 24th of this year to review and consider all approval of kiosk applications for both on and under the pier. Below are the submitts that we've received in the last six four to six weeks. For on the pier, we have what's called uh accompanied sip, which is a beachside drink concept specializing in custom crafted flavored beverages. All drinks are non-alcoholic, breeding, refreshing, familyfriendly experience for everyone to enjoy. But under the pier, we have Surf Dogs, which we know is a hot dog um business here in Surfside Beach. Second is Loaded Lobster, which plans to sell lobster rolls. And and third is Rashard's uh Italian Ice, which is a family-owned business that is established since 2009. All right. Any questions, comments for administrator Vincent? I have

Did you do a motion? Oh, yeah. See, I I messed up there. Thank you, Miss Medina. Mr. I'd like to make a motion to approve resolution 26-0213 approving the installation and operation on KF or under the Surfside Pier specifically cippet for on the pier on the pair surf dogs loaded lobster and bicardis and parit I'll second it did did you mention the one on the pier too sorry I missed All right. So, we got a second. You got that, Miss Medina? I think I'm the only one missing things right now.

Mr. Coleman, you made the motion. You want to start? I just have one question for Do we have to go before the planning commission to do this? No, sir. This when we we passed the ordinance back, there's two resolutions. one was the first meeting in March and then we changed it the second meeting March that these applications go before town council.

Um so initially when we were looking at putting pages at the pier it was only allowed supposedly only allowed to have them on the pier. We come to find out we can put some under pier. It's not going to look like market. It's going to be a couple select kashes. We also weren't allowed to have propane on the pier, but under the pier, as long as it's 10 feet away from the pier, you can have the same. So, I think it's a good idea. You're going to give a lot more variety down in the pier village. You want hot oil, you want lobster, or different kinds of drinks and lemon ice. I think it's Mr. Mayor.

Okay. Uh yes, Mr. Law, I've got a couple couple questions related to um loaded lobster. Okay. So, what you provided here, the picture, I know we're limited space that ended here. That's not the actual kiosk. We'll put on that concern because that was like that was my my question too. So, second question is mentioned they use electricity. Are they going to hook up to the pendants? Yeah, I think uh one indicated propane, one is frozen, one didn't need electric, but the other one did. So, I don't Right. So, so it's okay for them to use the tendant that we have there two on either side of the ve.

Okay. How I mean, I'm getting into the weeds here, but how are we going to manage that? I mean, who who's going to be responsible for giving them access to it and then when they close up at night, how is that going to work? We can have our peer technicians assist with that. Okay, Mr. Oh, I'm sorry. No, go ahead. I just wanted to I just wanted to clarify that uh this this in no way for the record is going to affect the existing leases upstairs with regard to the power usage and everything because No, sorry. It's totally so. Thank you. Okay, Mr. M.

Um the question I have is um the layout. Do we know exactly where they're going to be laid out there? Because if two of them are using electricity the night that they have the hoola show, they also use electricity. So I would say when the hoola show, which is a town sponsored event, they would not be in that location for that event. But also, can three people use electricity? I think there's only two slots right now. And I thought we talked about maybe two more with John Deere. But as far as the locations go, uh Keith Williams has has that has that marked out at this point.

So currently there's only two outlets for electricity. Correct. Yeah. Their wheels that come down. And then when the show starts in June, they'll need their own. They'll need their own or if we don't have those available, they cannot be there. Okay. Yes, ma'am. Mr. Mayor, Mr. Well, and I think that um there was only one I think that's in here right now that's going to use electricity because the other one underneath is going to be propane. Yeah, that's correct. That's correct. Mr. Mayor, Mr. Stamp, I'd like to note is there an extra extra charge for using electricity? There's no We don't have that established and schedu.

So, whatever his rental space is for that area covers the electricity bill. I mean, basically, it's the rent cost plus the 1% of sales. That's all we have established in our fee schedule. Now, if we want to change that for July one, we may. Do you do we not need to look at that for the cost for the July one fee schedule? Yes, sir. Yes, we can absolutely. We have another work session next week and then we have two readings in June. Thanks, sir. Mr. I'm gonna hang on a second. I'm gonna follow up on that. So, um, that's not on a separate meter. I mean, it's just it's just an outlet, right? That pendant.

I'm not sure how John did, but I would imagine it's it's metered to the town, not to the tenants. So, it is separate that in that in that case. Okay. So, we wouldn't necessarily be able to differentiate it from the outlets that are along the pier, which are also meter to the town, but I assume they're minimal usage and we can we'll just look at the difference. We can look at the difference. That's what John has done with the utility billing and the solid waste.

Okay. I yeah I would I would suggest that we figure that out ahead of time and then also make sure that uh Loaded Lobster is aware that of the the potential conflict on the Ola shows which is once a week for eight weeks I think. So you know hopefully it's not a big deal and uh you know maybe they'll do a booming business in the hour leading up to it as the people are coming in and then they'll just pack up and and say we we'll forgo it during that hour. But make sure that's uh clear in the communications and then yeah I would I would think we could amend the agreements uh for next year.

Okay. Or schedule even in July. Uh Mr. Walls, go ahead. I just wanted to say it's it's going to be unless you ran unless John did indeed, which I think we approved and discussed extra pull downs. But if you're going to start metering those drop downs for as part of the lease, then you're not going to be able to borrow that drop down for the hoola show. I'm just saying logistically it might behoove us if we go to metering those drop downs for our leases. We might want to run one strictly for town events. I get so that wouldn't go through that.

I'll get with the director a day or so. We can establish that. It may just be a one time fee monthly. That's Mr. Mayor. You done? I'm Yeah, I'm finished. Go ahead, Mr. Stamy. with saying that that's what I was referring to to start with is not not a meter I just a monthly fee right whatever comes up with because this one outfit is asking for enough power to run a cooler and a grill say that could run into significant amount of power over a month's time

especially if you're using it in the peak hours so you have to pay for that too but that's what I was referring to when brought this up. Not necessarily a meeting, just some way of a fe schedule of whatever we want to come up with at that time for power usage for many hours. All right, okay, Mr. Mr. Mr. Vincent, I kind of was wondering is there a way we can streamline kiosk applications so they don't have to come to the town council that where the either the town works through the mechanism or extends it to the business committee. Does every single kiosk have to come to town council?

It used to come to the peer committee and then we establish it for it to come to town council only now because there's no beer committee. If you wanted it done administratively, we could certainly do that, but the decision with council is it it come to them for approval. And the other question I have is um I haven't looked at the lease agreement, but is there any place in there where we uh ask them to detail what waste they're going to be generating through their product and how we're going to handle that with our tenants themselves? Yes, John's got that figured out between all four. Okay. Yes, sir. Very good. Thank you.

Anything else? All right. The motion on the table is to approve the uh four kiosk applications as presented. Miss Medina, will you take the role? Missing? Yes. Mr. Hyatt? Yes. Mr. W? Yes. Mr. Wolf? Yes. Mr. Coleman? Yes. Mr. Stam? Yes. Mayor Crowley? Yes. Motion carries unanimously. All four kiosks are approved. Mr. Benson, I'm sure you'll communicate that. Thank you. All right. Um, we're now moving into 7F committee appointments and we have uh I believe it's three what we ended up with. Yes.

So, um I'll just introduce it. Uh we have one for AEX uh and two for garden committee and we have one vacancy in AEX and two vacancies in garden committee. So, these are all new applicants. Um the names are Nate Anderson for AEX, Michael Wilt, and Sandra Thaxton for garden committee. And uh we've received their applications. Uh so I'll just make a motion to approve all three of these as presented. Second.

All right. I uh kind of said what I I didn't advocate for. I just said their names. But uh I'll forego my my turn. is any any questions, comments on these applicants. I've got a comment.

So, I mean, I have no problem with these folks. Um, and I know we can't do it here, but maybe for the next meeting. It would seem to me logical that when we get these committee appointments that they are funneled first to the committee chair and the the liaison for the committee um and maybe even yourself just not that they can veto but that just to have an idea as to who is applying for their particular committees. Um uh there was one today that came in last minute that turns out the person was didn't live in town. But in any event, I think it's something we ought to consider as part of the process to just have them at least go through the committee so that they know who is who is applying for it, provide any comments they they they they have. Obviously, it would they would have a veto authority, but they may know people, they may not know the people, whatever. But I think it would be helpful for us if we knew what the feelings of the committee chair at least was were before we approved. So for for future discussion, I understand that and and I'll actually take that on. Um uh there was not too long ago uh I think four or five people on the business committee um had had all joined four years ago. Their terms all came up. Um all of a sudden the business committee was cut in half and we got a a bunch of uh new new uh applications. But yeah, we approved one that the chair did not even know had been submitted. And you know, he he asked me at that time, he says, "I didn't even know about." I said, "Well, process doesn't say you know about it." Uh, I suggested about two years ago when I came in here that I I wanted to kind of revamp some of the committee structure uh maybe clarify the role of the liaison and the committee chair, increase presentations um and and and kind of uh standardize charters uh in a template and uh also

identify we just have ad hoc and statutory. I think we need standing committees and ad hoc. Um, standings are the ones that are going to stick around probably forever. Ad hoc tend to have a uh uh a finite life. In any event, um, this job turned out to be a little busier than I expected it to be. And two years later, I still haven't uh come up with that proposal, but um, this would be impetus. So, I I hope to be able to have something to present to all of town council in the next couple of months, but it is a good point. Thank you. Any other questions or comments?

All right. The motion on the table is to approve the three applications as presented. Miss Medina. M. Yes. Mr. Hyatt. Yes. Mr. Lawhorn. Yes. Mr. Walls. Yes. Mr. Coleman. Yes. Mr. Sty.

Yes. Yes, motion carries unanimously. I think I've said that about eight times today, so that's good. Um, this this was a pretty easy one so far. So, with that, we're now moving into item number eight at 6:35. Uh, public comments, town services for business conducted. Do we have any public comments? All right, then we're going to go into town council discussion and comments. And I'm gonna start uh Mr. Walls.

Oh. Uh just wanted to thank everybody for coming out. We've got a great crowd tonight. Um and I would just uh remind everyone that Thursday we have produce workshop. Please, please, please do not believe everything you're hearing on social media. There's nobody in town or on this council that's trying to pass laws to remove or kill geese. is our red ones.

I mean, it's just crazy what you're hearing out there. We're just trying to find a smart, sensible, mutually beneficial to the town and the geese way to manage this because it's getting out of hand. It really is. It's it's getting it's getting to be a problem. So anyway, if y'all come, please come and give us your input as to how you feel about uh some decisions that we've got before us on with regard to the overall wildlife in our town. Um and uh again, we'll see you um in a couple of weeks. Just think about us and pray for us in the second second budget workshop coming up on the 23rd. So take care. Have a good luck here.

All right. Thank you, sir. Mr. Lawhart. Um I think this was a world record in terms of meeting. I'm not I'm not going to extend it any longer than we have to other than to um to say thank everybody for coming and also congratulations to the kiosk folks. I think there's some folks out the audience here. So um we're happy to have you there. Um uh I think it's just good for business. It's good for the town. So good luck with that. Other than that, that's it. All right. Thank you, sir. Uh, Mr. Stamy,

that's awesome. Uh, I'd like to thank everybody for being here tonight, all our staff from town. As y'all know, we got another workshop, our work a budget workshop coming up, uh, the 23rd. If you want to know how your money's being spent, where it's going to, come on down and listen to what we talk about, that's where it's at. You'll know right off hand right then what's going on. you won't have to look on the internet to see whether we made a good decision, bad decision, or decision that some people don't like. So, with saying that again, thanks y'all. All right. Thank you, sir. Miss Miss Shot,

I can't believe what time it is. And I'm not complaining, let me tell you. Please don't. Um, I encourage all the residents to attend the budget meeting next what, next week. 23rd.

Um, thought about this today because when I ran for council, I ran on the concept of keep Surfside small. You know, we are small. Two-mile town, that's it. And I met up with um Phil Jackson today and Sam's Club and um he says, "What's going on? What's going on with our small town?" And he gave me this analogy and I loved it. He says, "How many fish do you think you're going to fit in your fish tank?" Seriously, you keep keep piling in. Well, that's the way I feel about the new positions. And I really think every resident should realize what they're adding in to this budget. And it's going to be three full time. You can have that salary, but you got to remember there's benefits, there's costs along with each employee. So, I really encourage you to read up and to attend the budget meeting because I don't want somebody a month from now saying, "What happened? You got rid of, you know, four pos part-time positions at the fire department," which the chief is all for, but I think you have to understand what's going on. Um, I'll answer all your questions you want to answer. I want to keep my fish tank with a couple fish in it so I can see the different colors. So, um, really think about that. I appreciate y'all being here. I'd really like to see this crowd at our next budget meeting. Um, we didn't even have a lot of people listening in.

Um, and you guys can make the difference. Speak out. Talk to all of us up here. You can make a difference. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Uh Mr. Coleman,

I just want to thank you all for coming out and you out in the TV world listening to it on the computer. Um I wasn't able to be at the budget meeting. So I don't know really if I like everything that's going on. I always like to make a little changes. Um but you have to come to these meetings. If you don't and you just get on Facebook as a keyboard warrior, it's they're going to raise the taxes. They're gonna do this, do that. Well, if you think they're we're going to do that, you get your butt down there and and tell us what you don't want. It's your town. Use your voice, stand up at the podiums, state your name, not your fake fake Facebook name, and tell us what you want. It's the only way this is going to work. Otherwise, you're telling us whatever we decide is what you want. So, not many people attended last budget, last year's budget meeting. I think Mr. Law might have been one of the only ones, but now look what the mess he's got himself into.

Right. So, good deed goes and the goose goose uh workshop. event stuff. Get involved in your community and thank you for the people who came out here. We used to have the room packed. It was it was like a Jerry Springer show. Thank you. What an ending. Thank you, Mr. Hyatt.

Yeah, I just want to say a couple things. One is I asked a lot of questions of both the fire chief and the police chief. The reason I did that is because when I ran for council, I promised that I would work to adequately um uh equip our departments, especially for officer safety, but I wasn't opulently um equipped them. And I just wanted to make sure that we were not buying things that we didn't need to buy if there had been a cheaper or another way. So that was the purpose of my questioning. Second thing I'd just like to say is that um tomorrow at uh 2 o'clock is the goose workshop here.

Oh, I'm sorry. I'm still in jet lag. I just got back from the Philippines. My head's a little far. Um Thursday at 2 o'clock. Please try to attend. I think uh we need a lot of support from the community to try to uh come up with a reasonable non fatal solution to the geese problem. Thank you. I thank you sir. I'll wrap it up. Um you've already heard multiple times about the goose workshop. So that is 2 o'clock uh here Thursday. Um you've also heard about the second budget retreat. That's 1 to 5 at the holiday in again. and we were able to stream from there. Little, you know, difficult passing the microphone back and forth, but we got it done. It's a week from Thursday, right? Yes. Yes. The 23rd. Um, one to five. So, uh, yes. Um, but I'll say the same thing. I encourage all of you to attend. That's the only way to really participate in these things. Um, this weekend we have three things going on all on Saturday. The first beach sweep of the year. KSVB is hosting that at 8 o'clock at Third Avenue North. Uh and then immediately after 9 to one is the community yard sale which will be throughout the community. And uh also 9 to one fishing with the cop at the Surfside Beach Pier. So um please uh I encourage all of you to attend any or all of those events as you can. Uh next week before we get to uh our next meeting, Arbor Day will be Friday the 24th, we'll be planting a bald cypress tree in uh all children's park and it'd be great to have a few people come out. We're trying to take our tree canopy seriously. This is a uh uh would be called a landmark tree and it'd be good to give it a good start. And then Saturday will be the second annual kite

fest at the pier. That's uh 12 to 3. So that's uh Saturday the 25th. So we got a lot of stuff going on in the next week and a half and uh I look forward to seeing all of you there. We are going to move into an executive session to hopefully finalize the administrator contract proposal. We've been working on it for a couple of weeks and uh well time's ticking because uh it expires. his contract expires in a month and we need to uh offer him something reasonable to negotiate. So that's where we are and uh at this point I'm going to ask for a motion you're just getting ahead. Okay. Yeah.

You know what? Go ahead. Uh I'll make a motion to adjourn regular meeting and enter executive session pursuant to the freedom of information act section 30-471 discussion of employment appointment compensation promotion demotion discipline or release of an employee administrators evaluation and contract any discussion all in favor I opposed none meeting uh regular meeting is adjourned and we will enter executive session