Town Council - Special Meeting

like to welcome everybody out to the February the 13th special call meeting. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you all for coming out today. Unfortunately, Councilman Braum couldn't be here today because of the work schedule or our meeting. We had a clerical error when it came out Thursday and due to the state statues, we had to change everything around. So, that's the reason we're here this morning. But, thank you all again for coming out. Conflict interest. Does any member of council have a conflict interest in regards to any item on the agenda for please at this time? No, sir. No. No. No. All right. Moving on. Approval of draft agenda. Does any member of council have anything that needs to be changed? If not, do I have a motion to approve this draft agenda? I'll motion to approve the draft agenda. Do I have a second? Second. Any discussion? All in favor? I.

All right. Getting on to new business. First up, McGill Task Order 36A, Majestic Oaks Park Design Council. Would y'all like to see I think did you you want to come up? I think they may have some questions for you and we'll go from there. Thank you all.

With McGill Associates here to address any questions on our task order amendment. Um I think Alex first off um just wanting to understand the scope of this. Um it's got in here and um we just saw this yesterday just to let you know. Um I think it came out Wednesday but I saw it yesterday. Um elevated bathroom structure playground area and emergency services boat lift. Um and everything that had already been presented on the Majestic Oak Park, the drawings, everything like that didn't have that information in anything. So I didn't know background on Sure. Yes. Sure. Um to let everyone know.

Sure. We can go through all three items. The first item, the emergency boat lift. Um there was a request by your emergency services folks to actually construct a boat lift at this location. Um which makes things a lot easier for them. And I can't speak to exactly how it would work as far as as answering emergencies, but it was a request from the emergency services group to construct a boat lift with this project. Um, so the task order involved two things. Figuring out where the best position was to put the boat lift and then number two actually the design of the boat lift itself. So that was the first item that was not in the original project. It came through afterwards. The second item dealing with the uh raised restroom, the playground. Let's go to the playground. Again, the playground was not in the original plan. Our previous administration chose to get a playground, figured out where would be the best fit for it, and what type of playground would it be. So, this task order addresses both of those items. We met with the playground supplier, went through a bunch of iterations as to the features on the playground and then um what we established where is the best position of the park for it and then this actual task order is for the design specifications and bidding information that's needed to construct the playground.

Time frame on that on when did that start this playground discussion? Oh my last couple months. I can't don't have exact dates obviously, but I know I've met previously with the group with Mr. Leensky. Is that right, Leensky? Yeah. The reason why Ms. Bachelor's asking is the maps that we have, we have it's a drawing by your firm, correct? And it's got green, which meant that was in the original proposal. Mhm. Then we have orange and the legend says that that's future possible phases, correct?

We don't have a map to show where this is the bathroom, the raised. Can we get up? Oh, we get up on screen. Yeah. Let me just give you guys something up there. Okay. Thank you. Thanks. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Alex.

Thank you very much. Let's back up to the uh boat lift. In the center of the drawing towards the bottom, you'll see it says a 15x20 boat lift area off of the walkway. We looked at a couple locations. To the east, which is to your left, I'm sorry, west, which is to your left on the drawing. positioned at a couple different spots. This ended up being the best spot for access um because there's also going to be a fire suppression system on the boardwalk at that location as well. So, that is the first item, the boat lift, which everybody finally agreed that was the best location for it and that was an afterthought from our the original contract. So, this task order addresses the design of all that. You know, when you go off of Kobia and you turn into that that property and you go toward the water, it appears, and I'm not an expert, but it appears that there's wetlands there.

Um, yes, you can see on here, um, is dotted. It says u the dotted area looks like it's a bunch of trees, but it's there's a wetland boundary shown on there. We've identified all the wetlands on site. You are correct. Do we do any I It's there. We cannot build anything around that wetland area. Right. Within a certain correct. You have to take it's like 30 feet away. 30 feet away from the whole area. The whole area. Yes. So that's the boat lift. The first item on the uh task order. Second item, the playground. The upper right. You can see it up at the uh just we'll call it just east of the restroom building. You see the location of the playground.

And again, we met with the playground supplier. They went through a bunch of different iterations of of the features on the playground. We can I can actually get that for you all if you want it. Um I I think for insurance purposes we should know what what the equipment is because that will be a insurance issue with playground material. Um what it is, what the risk is for that. Um and that'll also be a budget concern that we'll have right at the Ken. Now Alex are right. I mean there's there's homes right there abudding this basically. Yeah looked at it all

at this point it was I mean this like I said this is where the previous folks felt that it was best to lay it out. When you say the previous folks what folks are you talking the administrator previous administrator the the administration decided this? Um yes. Okay. Did that ever go to the previous council? I don't know. Mike did I just work right through release. It will present it to the council this particular drawing excluding the three items he's talking about now in a meeting or in just sent to them. No, it was in a meeting because the only time we could meet on this stuff is in an open session like here.

I've gone to all the meetings and I don't remember this. Um could it have been the two by two by two that you all used to do? No, I don't think it was a two by two by two because there was a lot of up and back between many colors. I think it was it was spoken to in broad range but no no point just said we're going to see about this this and this but getting back just even even the thing about the playground you know as far as the equipment there anybody that lives on island knows I mean we're going to have to be really careful if this is what the council goes for within this park goes to this

any of the equipment that's used there the longevity of it how long it's going to be before it start rusting out I mean and then if it gets to that point then that creates a safety hazard for kids and stuff that use it. So that's another thing that needs to be considered on that. So any kind of details needs to be provided. Okay. You want to skip back because we haven't seen it and it's not been posted online to the website that we're aware of or anything out there. So like we said, we went through a couple different iterations and picking the different parts and pieces and this is what they ended up with. Okay.

Um the third item is the restroom building. You can see where that's at on the plan. This is a pre-cast concrete building. Comes in one unit and the pre-cast supplier of the building designs them as if they're sitting on the ground. They don't do any other kind of foundation designs other than sitting it on the ground. In the district where we're at, we know everything has to be elevated. So our task order amendment once we found that out is to build the p build up a policy of ramps you upstairs every everything associated with ADA. Um so that is what it sits up about 8 or 10 feet. So that's what this task order addresses is the structural design of the foundations for the restroom as well as the structural designs for the boat access.

Mr. Le Pensky, how close are those rest that restroom platform? It's raised. How close is that to the homes that abut that property? Oh, you're probably you got a legend down here, but you're the expert to to decipher that. Could you tell us how many roughly feet? Well, you figure the walkway itself that we're showing is 8 feet wide. So I can get one, two, three, four, 30, maybe 30 or 40 feet just by trying to get So in this room where I'm sitting, how far back is 30 feet from where I'm sitting? Yeah, probably a little further than the wall probably just beyond the wall. So we're going to have a restroom here and a little farther than the wall going to be a a flow of houses.

You have the walkway and then you have the houses in here. Yeah. The bathroom that you're constructing, um, is it like a portable? No, no, it's it's fully functional. Okay. Fully functional restroom that'll be, like I said, it's a concrete building. It comes in, just gets set right on the frame. All the plumbing. Yeah, it's raised up. I think it's like eight almost eight or 10 feet up. Um, and all the plumbing and electrical and everything is prepped to actually hook up and go. Okay. And Alex, the previous plan, this plan that was done, um what was the restroom configuration for it because this I mean the height restriction of elevating it has a new development.

Yeah. Um I can't actually answer that. I can find out because I wasn't involved in the very early stages of the planning because to me that should have been planned in this phase. In that phase. Would you agree? Yeah. if it was ultimately intended to be, it's actually um an alternate bid. It's not part of the base bid. You don't have to build the restroom if you don't want to. It's not a requirement. The emergency boat lift. Um is that required? Is that something that What is the purpose of that? Is it for speed to get over there if we were to have an emergency? I mean, it says emergency,

right? my in my conversations with the fire chief because when I heard about the the boat ramp I had some questions as well and it's to give them quicker access should they need to get into some of the canals um my question to that was is it is it quicker to respond to the island drive down canal to coia to the boat launch the boat get to the canal versus just launching the co the boat in the ICW and it's probably about a wash. So, the fire chief did not seem that, and I don't want to speak for him, but um that this was a deal breaker. So, I don't know that it it has that great of a benefit as far as speeding up response time.

Thank you. You're welcome. So, Kim, would you say this is one of those things that it was, and I hate Richard's not in here, but would you say that's something that was a wish, not a need? Um, is that how you would cl because to me that's a huge expense and anybody that has a boat lift the maintenance on it the to barely be used um is a lot. I think that summarizes it well and if the tide is not just right as well still not going to be a speedy response even from the bulk. You're going to be in the muck right

to make sure that we understand before us is $43,000 to go to McGill just for engineer drawings. That's not the price of the raised bathroom, the playground. That That's just for you. It's our design effort to create bid drawings construction. Okay. Correct. So, this could be easily another half a million dollars or more. Right. Easily. Now, now with this drawing here, Alex, is there a reason these drawings could what we've already paid for couldn't be utilized if you had not been asked by prior administration to come up with a new plan even though you'd already came up with a plan previously?

Those are schematic in nature. They're not good enough for bidding. Okay, build. Okay, that's what our test week we took that and created structure. Okay, so let's say we were using the this skynamic here dynamic here diagram here. Um what would the cost be to do this so that it could be bid out would you estimate? Well, we have the bid plans already ready or almost ready. We've done some permitting. So we've already paid for this and we can move forward with this to move the Yeah. You have your your base task order for us was to create just what you're talking about. Well, that's what I thought. This had already been done and paid for is my take.

Yeah. I mean, right now we're down to doing some geotechnical work on the site which we started because we had debris we had to move. Right. Exactly. You were held up due to that that part. Other than that, the plans I would say are good 80% complete. So, this new plan that came about in the fall was an addition to the scope of the original Majest refinement of the scope. Okay. Okay. Okay. And whether we approve this or not, it's not going to delay the development of the the original plan that that we see in green. This plan?

Oh, no. Absolutely not. These are just extras. If you don't approve this, obviously, we wouldn't have the ramp, we wouldn't have the playground, we wouldn't have the uh raised restroom, we wouldn't Well, those were future phases anyway by this plan. Yeah. So, nothing pulled out be pulled out of the current plans.

Yeah. To me, this is just extra that the town is going to have to pay, our taxpayers will have to pay. Um, when you look at this, it's four acres. Four, four and a quarter acres and it looks like every grain of dirt, sand has been utilized. It's going to be too congested. I recommend that this not be approved. I don't know if you all want we'd like to table it, but I'd like to go with the original plan. And if we want to add on extras later, then we add those on later. When we have a playground, the best playground that we have in this area is the beach. Cost to maintain that, cost to have insurance on that is going to be a burden to our taxpayers. We also are not required to have this boat ramp. We know that's going to be expensive. We see that it's from our public safety officials that it's going to be a wash. So, there's no benefit to have that. It's just going to congest the area even more. The restrooms, um, I I would, if I live there, I would not want to look out at my backyard to see a a public restroom. That's got to be clean. That's going to cost us money as well.

Okay. Yes, sir.

With the amount of possible people using it between the kayakers and the people walking the tracks and everything, not having a bathroom within close proximity, a public bathroom means that they're all going to end up going all the way down to the gazebo. That is not a good idea. I mean, we need some kind of a restroom facility on these premises. Now we need to make it raised because according we can't have it it. So I think that that is one of the one of the three items I think that we should really seriously say you know if worst comes first people are using that property for whatever reason they're going to need if they need a restroom you're not going to ask them to go into the creek.

On the original plan that you looked at did it had a rest did it have restrooms? Yes it had a restroom but it was at flat level. Where was that on the drawing? I don't have it right in front of you. It It's right up against where the parking So, there's a restroom already there. We're just moving. There's a restroom that was in a future phase, correct?

Um but um you know, and there's a lot that's in the future phase from landscaping to the walkway to the shady um sales over picnic tables to the impervious pave plaza, a bachi court, some benches, some bench swings. We're all future cuz really phase what I would say the the grant part of it that was requested is some parking spots, a boardwalk, a kayak, canoe launch, a wildlife observation platform, and a fishing area. Um, and there were costs there's cost associated with every bit of that in the grant information um that's already out there. So, um I um agree that I feel like the the new plan that we're just this is in this meeting, just seeing this map, we need to look through this more in more detail before anything. I I'm I'm not based on the information I gathered yesterday regarding from our um public safety. I'm not for this boat lift that we're just hearing about. Um I'm not necessarily for this playground where it's going to be where it's situated at right against these homes. Um the restrooms I am um I want I need a lot more information on those what they're going to be. I would like to see what the restroom plan was with this drawings that have been communicated in detail to see what we're looking at um to me um and and look at the option you are submitting with this plan um cost all that stuff to see what we're looking at before making a decision um what Mr. possible said regarding the restrooms. The problem if there aren't restrooms there. Some people will leave and go to a appropriate restroom. Some people will do their business in the park. They'll do it in the water. They'll do it wherever. We anyone that lives near a park or lives on the island. We we see this where we live. Unfortunately, we

shouldn't happen, but it's the society we live in today. I guess you could say, but um I'm not I'm not for passing this today, this $43,000. I think we got to go back and look at this and and we need you to bring us as a council more detailed information because we're just seeing this today and seen it in the request yesterday is when I got my packet. It went out Wednesday afternoon to us, but that's first I've heard or seen of it. So, nothing.

Mr. Clay, could we ask that you work with Mr. Leinsky on having a overall presentation to council and to the public so that we know exactly what we're getting um for our for our money. Um because I'm looking at two individuals myself, we've come to every council meeting for the last couple years. We don't remember this and I have a pretty good memory. Um I would like Mr. Mr. Claymer, is that something that you would do for the council so that we all know exactly absolutely what the plan is?

I think we could try to plan for the April agenda for a presentation. This way the full council is aware of scope of this project in various phases and then the council can give direction on how you'd like to proceed. One of the things I wanted to mention, and I know that we're concerned about the visual view of the restrooms from housing close by, but we have not taken into consideration the foliage and things that are being used on that particular area and whether the uh how they're going to, if you wish, screen that particular area from people's views from anywhere else. So if we know what that part of it is, it will at least alleviate that concern regarding views from the people's houses. Uh so I think we have to add that into the project to say what's going to plan on there. I know there's a committee out there to look at what to put out on Majestic Oaks. And I think that you know uh they should take a look and see what kind of a bushes, trees, or whatever else they're going to use to screen that area. Seems like consensus of the council here is to table this matter. Go ahead. Shown.

Hey, Alex. Uh, in reference to the bathroom, there's there's no sewer line runs out there, is it? No. It will be um we have to actually pump it out to Kobia Street. You have to pump. It'll be a vacuum system. All right. And is that location there, what if we what if you moved it just out of curiosity, if you moved it to uh if you see where the wetlands are in the middle like behind the parking spaces, could it go in that area too? Oh, absolutely. Okay. And then that means the distance of pumping it would have would be much less also. Sure. That would be some Okay. Um I'm going to agree with as far as tableabling as far consensus. Mike, you good with table? Yeah. All right.

Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Mr. Minsky. All right. Next up, be amendment amendment indendum to the MOA between Palm Cove Association and the town of Sunset Beach.

Mr. Mayor, what you have before you is is an amendment to a previous N MOA that was entered into March 4th of 2024. Um, this allows for the town to designate a project manager at its sole discretion for supervising of supervision of the construction. It also changes um the attorney since we no longer have Mr. Richardson representing the town of Sunset Beach. This has been reviewed by our leading

so that the public knows um all we're doing is we've identified that in the original memorandum of agreement that was signed in 2024 that it stated that the town would provide a project manager. We no longer have that capacity. So that even if we had the capacity, those fees were going to be transferred over to the Palm Cove Property Owners Association. Now what we're doing is just saying that they now will pay for who the town hires in this function and they'll of course have input in that. And the other thing that's in here, I think that mentions about where the dredge spoils are going to go. In the original MOA that was signed in 2024, it did not designate where they're going. We know that Majestic Oaks was purchased in 2022, and we know that that's been used as um a staging area. I guess a staging area is um is a fancy word for

um a dump that we're dumping. And our council has said we no longer want that. So now the onus on where those dredge spores are going to go will be on the Palm Cove HOA or I'm excuse me property owners association and that in here we changed um from our former lawyer to our current lawyers. So it's those three things. Just want to make sure the public knows that this is not additional dollars. It's to clean up um the things that that we looked at. And Miss Bachelor, I know you and I have spent at least 10 hours looking on this and meeting with folks. So, um, this was not done lightly. This was a lot of thought and a lot of reading.

I'd like to make that opportunity to make a motion. I'd like to make a motion that we approve the addendum to the memorandum of agreement with the Palm Cove Owners Association. Do I have a second? I'll second that. Any more discussion? All in favor?

I. Next up be our council regular meeting schedule. Mr. Mayor, members of councel for consideration uh of changing the regular meeting schedules from every Monday night at 700 p.m. for the start of a regular council meeting to changing that to every Monday of the month uh with a starting time of 2 p.m. for the regular meetings. understand that due to notification requirements, if the council votes to approve this, the first effective meeting would have to be April of 2026, we'd also have to amend um the July 13th and September 14th meeting as they don't fall on the first Monday of the month. Just looking at this and this, like I said, this just came up to us came up. It was a consensus of our employees about changing the time that the the administrator had went to them just to ask them what they thought and they came across with and this is where they came up with. I understand that as much as I respect our employees and all, this may be something we go in, but the only problem I had with this being on today was I didn't feel like our citizens had a had a voice in it. And you know, the coming into this new council, I' I've heard numerous diff new council come in and talk about they want to be everything out in front. And I think I would hope that this council would table this to the next meeting where where our people would have a chance to publicly speak whether they're in favor of this or not. And then at that time we consider whether we go forward with this or not. I prefer if this is going to be held to the next meeting, it should be at an evening 7:00 meeting where the normal people that would have showed their would have the ability to get there because people who work can't make the 2:00 meeting.

Well, if we take, it would be it would be moved to then anyway. So, that would be the the regular March meeting, which is the 7 o'clock meeting. Okay.

Rest of the council. Well, I to echo what our town administrator is saying is um the consensus of the employees. I I don't think the public realizes what the demand is on employees. You all start your day at 7 7:30. Then you go to a meeting um that last. Let's make sure that we understand the people that are at these meetings, the staff members, they don't get overtime. They don't get comp time. So they're expected to be here from 7 7:30 in the morning. And you all we've gone to 10 11 o'clock at night. That makes a very long day. And then the next day, whatever time that employee starts, they are expected to be at their duty station all brighteyed and bushy tailed. Um and to provide that good customer service is very taxing on employees. And our greatest asset is our is our employees. Um, we know that our average age here, um, of our population is 66 68.6. We're the second oldest population in North Carolina. Um, many of our folks are retirees. We YouTube it. Um, we YouTube our meetings. Um, and we know that to light the building, to heat and air condition. So, I I'm sure that you we're figuring all these into this. Um, but we do want to hear from our public to hear what they have to say. And we're probably going to make 50% happy and 50% not happy. Um, so I I commend you for bringing this forward to us um to to to protect the freshness of our employees and to to look at the lighting and the electricity of our building.

Can I first before it comes back around? Yeah, Miss Bachelor would be procedure. Sorry. Um Um I I agree, Ken. Thank you for bringing this up from the employees. Um I've heard a lot people wish meetings were were earlier due to our meetings going so late. I mean, it's typical we're here till 10:30 um after a meeting. Um and some pe you know, there's pros and cons with that. Um I also think the cost associated um some employees are paid um overtime some are you know receive comp time so there is a time there just making for a long day for everyone so I think it's definitely something we can look at. I also do feel I spoke about this earlier today in private um that I feel like when our agenda comes out whenever it was noted to the public it did have in there a little blurb about the time change but it was you know a little blurb and I feel like moving forward um Ken on these when it when it here on our agenda where it said council regular meeting schedule it didn't give any detail on that. I feel like detail needs to always be provided to residents so they can know what we're talking about. So there's really not a question. Sometimes things can come up in the midst of us discussing things that get added or changed around in discussion, but I feel like we need to always make sure that that this meeting for this week was a little crazy with things happening so quickly. But um but I think we need to all collectively make sure that the residents and the public know what it is we're talking about in as much detail provided as possible so that when you look at the agenda, I know when I'm as a resident, I look at the agenda to see the detail in the staff reports and more information. I think that's something that we can just make sure going forward

that we do for any agenda item. And um I'm definitely for us um moving it to our March meeting to discuss and that way we also have a public forum comment time during the day as well as our regular scheduled March meeting. You know, we see some new faces here that haven't been in meetings. Does that mean that they have the opportunity now to attend? Again, we're going to make 50% happy and 50% unhappy with if whatever we do. Um Yeah. Yeah, I I agree with what y'all are saying. Um, I want to I'd like to table us. I'd like to hear what the public has to say about it. Before you table, I'm let Mike go back.

Yeah, I was looking at this many different ways and I agree. We have the issue where senior citizens driving later at night is a issue. We also have an issue where we have people who really really believe it or not work here. We do.

Yeah. and they don't have the option of being on a computer watching us while they're working. Most of them probably will not be at a desk job, although there are some, but a lot of them are not going to be able to sit and watch. Uh, if we're looking at issues on how to let's look at it a couple of other ways. We're talking about moving the time maybe from 2:00 from 7 more at night till 2. Okay. And then we have the issue of maybe we just keep it at 7. But there's an issue of between the two. I mean, if we start the meetings earlier than seven, most of the meetings except for those extremely long ones are are done within a couple of hours when it is still daylight in a lot of most of the months. So, I think we got to look at three different issues before we make a judgment call. And uh yes, I think March meeting would have good good time to open it up.

Again, I've heard consensus. I think I pretty much heard that from y'all of being maybe tableing this and coming back in March. So, this is what you're looking at. I have one more comment. Yes, ma'am. Go ahead.

I also feel like that the fact that we now um have the earlier public comment forum the week before the meeting as well as we have a portal where residents can put in their thoughts and concerns on anything or an agenda item and and we are reviewing those. I want to thank everybody that's taken the time to submit those, whether it be our portal, our budget, um, land use plan, all of those people are going out there using technology to let us know your thoughts. I want to thank you for taking the time to do that. But with that, I do feel like we've opened up um additional avenues for the residents to communicate with us and share their um their concerns, their thoughts, their suggestions. Um, so I feel like um some people do not feel as much of a need to have to show up at the meeting to actually speak at at the meeting as maybe they did in the past. We still welcome all avenues of communicating with us. But um we have seen a huge increase in the portal that was created um in receiving feedback from residents. So that's something else I feel like um you know with technology you may be at work let's say if you are at work during the meeting or you have an engagement in the evening and you can't make the meeting um on a Monday evening um you have the option to also watch it online. They're all recorded. You can watch it online at any time. They're out there. Um you also can watch it at one and a half speed so you can go through it faster or you can skip through certain parts if you want to. There's lots of technology out there if you haven't checked that out to be able to actually see what we're talking about and what we're saying at the meetings.

Thank you. This one's table. So now we're moving on. Service agreement with Coastal Protection Engineering phase 2 Jinx Creek realignment project.

Mr. Mayor, this is for consideration of approving CPE to go into phase two now that we have the amendment to the MOA signed between the Palm Coers Association and the town. Um phase two of this program would be for biological monitoring uh with a total cost of these services of $341,527. And it talks about task three at an additional $17,400 only if needed by the final design. And these funds are all payable by the HOA per the agreement. Any comments from council on this one?

I just have one. How do we know if if we're going to have to go into the compens three? Do we do we know what the process would be for that? Unfortunately, I do not. I'd have to ask CPE for that. Okay.

Our finance director, Tara Nichols, is in the audience. The money is in the escrow account to cover this. Um so the process for that is and if you approve to move forward with the next phase then um we let them know that you're moving forward and they deposit that into at 125% from um into the escrow. So the escrow is basically deposited into by phases, but they don't CPE will not get the contract until the money is in the escrow. Thank you for explaining that. Yes. Thank you.

Um I would just like to say I know we um Katie and I had some detailed meetings with Ken and CPE and the Palm Cove HOA representative um Lewis and um we um went through a lot of this and um got up to speed on everything that's going on. And um there was a case um in the in the previous where um the town had not yet build for phase one for the dollars. Upon being build that um they immediately paid that. So that's kind of what we were looking at to move forward to make sure we had fully wrapped up phase one before moving into phase two and make sure there were no issues, no concerns. And like in the previous MOA, we needed to look at the project management role to make sure that was clearly defined and that that is covered so that we do everything for the agreement that was previously in place with Palm Cove HOA to make sure what was agreed upon could be successful for them if they are granted um the the funds moving forward. So that's kind of why we were looking at that. Um and um as was stated, Palm Cove will fully be paying for this and then if um grant money comes about, it'll be reimbursed back that way. Um we we have um had some concerns regarding regarding dredgings bulls and how that will be handled. Um and and some of that will be determined later on in the process um if awarded. So, just to let you know, we're aware of that and we're we'll see where this goes.

Do I have a motion? Make a motion to approve the agreement. Do I have a second? I'll second. Any more discussion? All in favor? I Okay. All right. Next up, close session pursuant to 143 31811 A6 to consider the qualifications confidence. Yes. No, this a special meeting. So, we don't have any public comment time or anything.

But when we go to this when we go, you're welcome to speak to us as we go. Close session pursuant to 143 31811 A6 to consider qualifications, competence, performance, character, fitness, conditions of appointment or conditions of initial employment of an individual public officer or employee or prospective public officer or employee or to hear or investigate a complaint, charge or grievance by or against an employ an individual public officer or employee. Do I have a motion to go in close session? I make a motion we go into close session. Do I have a second? Second. Any more discussion? All in favor?

Do I have a motion to come out of close session? I'll make motion to go come out of close session. Do I have a second? Second. Any more discussion? All in favor? There's nothing coming out of close session to report at this time. There's nothing else. Do I have a motion to close the meeting? I'll make a motion to close the meeting. Do I have a second? Second. Any more discussion? All in favor? I