Council Meeting - Regular Meeting

It's 5.30 and we're about to begin this meeting. Can I get a call to order? Invocation. Invocation. Invocation.

Invocation.

Invocation. Invocation. Invocation. Invocation.

Give us some compassion to better understand each other, wisdom, and love to associate, assist each other in all others, and trust in patience to the Lord. Peace be to Grant. Grant, I ask that in Jesus' name, our city may become a place of faith, family, and community, accepting each other, working together in unity, selfless, dedicated to one another,

At the approval of minutes of the last special meeting, we need to approve.

That's all.

Roll call, please.

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Here. Approval of minutes from the meeting held on 8-24-26. So moved. Do I hear a motion for the amendment of these minutes?

So moved.

Do I hear a second? I'll start now. The amendment will say, we also stated that in order to reimburse by FEMA, it has to be a removable building. Do we have a motion and a second?

No, we don't.

Call for a vote.

before this is if the public has a chance to make a comment on the approval of the minutes before the other meeting and whether I'm sure they'll answer. So that's why I was about to make sure.

Does anyone have comments on the approval of the minutes dated 8-24-26?

May I ask your name, please?

Mary Brown, 200 Boulevard Avenue, St. Louis, 700 St. Louis Street. Before I begin, I would like to explain that I have a speech impairment due to a disease that goes down on me and a sight impairment at times. I once saw a building and a fellow student did now a dance challenge I choose the word sparingly. With that knowledge, I will enunciate the best of my ability, the inevitability that I must submit an advisory to the council, that though written without the help of one official attorney, it is an imperative warning that you should, as a and use it as a counterfeiting. What does this have to do with the approval of minutes? I'll explain that to you now. The previous meetings are currently relevant to this agenda item, meaning not to execute the original intent of the council. Just know that with the advent of artificial intelligence, it is very simple for a mentally challenged individual, such as myself, and we have it prepared for today as a vigil, a service journey. The mass you are viewing tonight, and I'm so excited to be viewing, is the Poet's, Poet's Meeting, here on March 10th, or any of the three special meetings here on August 24th. My encouragement is that you and the staff utilize all your skills available to you and your employees, for that matter, to serve what you're building on by studying each lesson before going so your day is clear and concise.

My A.I. found no less than four disaster seats between the minutes of the previous meeting during a bridge night

which I will provide upon request. There is no resolution on tonight's agenda as implied under the pre-disclosure regarding a change in holy interest, except in what's approved, a resolution under approved means. I have no citizen exemption bills, and it has been done many times before by various councils. I am ready to say it again so you know exactly what to vote for by a few minutes. I encourage you all to discuss issues in the item openness. But when stating a motion, announce that motion clearly, publicly, explicitly, and exactly as you intend before you vote. Otherwise, you may just get caught off at a subsequent meeting by a memorized message with an apple. That's it. Thank you, Mr. Bell. That's it, right? We have a motion, and we have a second. Can we vote, please? Is this the day when you're going to vote? Thank you. All those in favor? Thank you. I thought that was, okay, that was as amended. So now we need to go around the rest of the minutes. Okay. Now we're sitting around the rest of the minutes. Okay. Can I get a motion for the approval of the minutes before amended? Motion by Mr. Tovey. Second by Mr. LeGue.

Clear.

Vote please. Passes 5-0. All right, now we have the approval of the current agenda. We have an amendment, several amendments, that have passed. First item, we're going to do amendments first. First item is item 1A, resolution authorizing an investigation into potential violations of public bid law for the recent construction done at 501 Willow Avenue. This is being added since the agenda was already published. At the time this item came up, and this means that you now may vote from the council. Mr. Baden.

I'd just like to say before we take a minute, I take a vote on it. And I specifically requested that the city pursue the legislative audit and attorney general's opinion. along with the independent investigations of these matters to be objectively examined. Despite repeated requests, no independent review was undertaken. I believe that Council should take a formal vote to sign referrals of these matters with documentation to the appropriate state authorities. This request is not about protecting one special authority or another. The same standard must apply to everyone. As a statutory reporting obligation was triggered, the appropriate report should have been made. If an investigation is warranted, it should be conducted under People's Assault and Preserve Transparency, People Treatment, and Accountability. On the Louisiana Revised Statute 24-523, I feel like we all that are in elected office, whether we are considered heads of the department or not, we are under mandatory reporting law. Under Louisiana law, if an agency head, municipal leader, or public official receives reasonable evidence of these violations and intentionally chooses not to report them, they are committing a major statutory breach and may face severe criminal and administrative consequences. The reporting mandate under Louisiana Revised Statute 24523 under Louisiana law, a municipal agency or leader has a non-discriminatory mandatory obligation to act immediately if they are presented with reasonable cause for having us. The state's passage. An agency head of an auditor who has absolute knowledge of reasonable cause to believe that there has been an inappropriate appropriation of the public funds or assets of his agency shall immediately notify, in writing, the legislative order and the district attorney of the parish of Calcasieu, which the agency has found the cause of such misappropriation. The definition of reasonable cause. The statute notes that the reasonable cause includes information obtained from an internal audit finding, a police report, or any other source such as submitted evidence indicating a misuse of agency funds or assets. General Code for Ethics Mandate, Louisiana Revised Statute 42-1161. While the standard Louisiana Code of Government Ethics focuses heavily on the conflicts of interest it places a specific administrative burden on agency heads. Louisiana Revised Statute 42-1161A establishes that agency heads have an absolute responsibility to report possible code of evidence violations directly to the Louisiana Board of Ed. Keeping evidence hidden or ignoring it violates the general standard. Criminal Consequences Mount St. Vincent Office Louisiana Revised Statute 14-134 when a municipal officer or public employee is explicitly given evidence of a violation of public law, such as a dead rating scheme or a misappropriation of FEMA dollars, and refuses to report it. Their intentional omission changes from an ethics breach into a criminal felony. Louisiana Revised Justice 14134 dictates that non-seasons in office occurs with any public officer, public employee, and intentional Refuses or tells to perform any duty lawfully required of him, as such officer or employee, or performs any such duty in an unlawful manner. And the penalty, if a miserable reader covers up good reading or misappropriations, they can be prosecuted criminally. Conviction carries the penalty of five years of hard labor and fines up to $5,000. The public did all civil actions. If a municipality authority refused to act on a document, dirt-ridden state Louisiana laws allow citizens to bypass them entirely and proceed with a civil lawsuit against the municipality. The only thing that I have in the process of us considering the places back on the agenda to pass it is that we look at the seriousness of the violations of mandatory reporting law and that we fix everything above board and that we look at it and try to move forward with this thing and make sure that we don't do any type of ethics violations that could end up all the way around this issue.

Thanks. comments from the council?

I'm pretty sure somebody's got a question about how to just go, how to just go hand-in-hand with the other one who did the concerns, you know. I know some other people probably got a question out there about that, and I'm just listening to what your answer was on it.

The process of moving forward and engaging in the resolution to do an initiate to authorize this investigation, it allows us to start beginning the right work. But we have already finished our investigative portion of it that we have done here. And we have just a copy of this and a complete document file that leads you all through. We have documented every single thing in here all the way back from the beginning dates with all the people's names in here. It's got a glossary. It's got a document file attachment in it that can go through there with a jump drive that The State Attorney General can attach the jump drive and go to each individual docket number and pull it up as a reading reader. They can watch any City Council meeting minutes. They can get the emails. They can attach anything in there and it's all correlated with each document and file number that they need to associate those documents with. It's kind of user-friendly. I've also given each one of these files to our city council members to where they could actually work through the process and if they have any questions, it would be easily discovered because trust me, as I have started going through public records and looking at it, this is just a scratching of the surface of things that the concern is not and things that need to be looked at.

Who was this agency? How many agencies was this agency?

So this document right here that you have was sent to the Attorney General's office. It was also forwarded to the Louisiana State Legislative Authorities Office, the Louisiana Board of Ethics. It was also forwarded over to the FBI, to the District Attorney's Office.

I guess, what's in my mind right now, and I'm just looking on the head of the floor, why are we already sinking so many people? I know we have to do another investigation. You know, Mr. Billings, we passed, we passed this last month, he's young, and I think, I believe it was his specialty, we passed it to where we would write the letter, we wrote the letter, and we sent it to the Attorney General's office. It wasn't limited to the Attorney General's office, it went to several... It was not sent only to the attorney general's office, but it was sent to FBI and several other states and federal agencies. I don't know if that's what we voted on, but it seems like all the bases have been already hit. And why do we need to take more steps when they're doing an investigation when apparently it's already been done? And that's my only question that I have on this. You know, why we reinvented the wheel when apparently it's all been done in this lab? In a sense, all the necessary agencies are out there, and you just have to look at them. Can you set a little light on that, Mr. Dillon?

The request, the request seems to be to investigate

of the status of Miller Street. It appears to me that, it appears to me that this matter has been completely investigated, unless Mr. Payton thinks that there is something that has not been looked into. And that's, I just don't know. I wasn't involved in the investigation, but do you think this has been completely investigated?

No, I don't think it's been completely investigated, and I'm still digging into other stuff. And in the process of If we bypass it tonight and don't vote on it, it prolongs the process of me being able to get legal counsel to be able to work further into it. And a lot of the stuff that is on Mr. Dan's resolution, I feel... Let's keep it to the point where I'm speaking on my topic. A lot of the stuff in Danny's resolution is correlated in some way, shape, or form with the investigations related to this item. And I think it's very important that we consider that and that we consider moving forward for legal counsel to advise us in the right way to represent the city on our end when we get those findings back from the other agencies.

That answers my question.

If he feels like the investigation is not complete, then that's what we are. He's asking that it be completed. Okay.

Do you have any other comments from the City Council? Okay. Mr. Charlie has asked approval of the agenda. Is this what you wanted to speak on, or is it... Okay. Could you please come up to the microphone, please? And just as a note, if you look at all the people that we have in speaking tonight, we'd like to keep it in the few minutes as possible. Thank you.

Charlie Anderson, 119th Island State. What we're requesting tonight is that you remove Agenda item 3 through 12 12, 28, 10, items 24, 37, and 28, the following agenda items are not in final form... Excuse me. We're speaking about one specific item right now. That's gonna come later. I don't know what you're saying.

That's going to come later. What you're talking about right now is going to come later.

What we're saying is, I think it ties into what the gentleman spoke a while ago, is that the whole rule of law is not a suggestion. It is the form of government that you're supposed to follow. And we have things in there that say it. that once you introduce an ordinance, it has to be in final form. None of those are in final form. It should have been a week ago when the jury came out, it should have been in final form so that people have a clue what's going on. I doubt right now that all the council members have a clue. I'm asking you to remove it from the event for us, because at some point you've got to start following the charter and the rules that the people set for you guys to follow.

Yes, sir. I agree with you 100%, and we're coming up on that soon, but right now we're talking about something that's being added to the agenda, possibly being added to the agenda at this time. We're going to come to those points later on.

Oh, you're speaking, excuse me, you're speaking of what Mr. Biden was? Yes, sir.

We're going to be coming to what he'd like to speak on later on.

Okay.

Very, very soon, I would imagine.

Oh, okay. I thought that was the item when you read it. No, I don't have any problem with Mr. Davis. Okay.

Okay. Thank you very much. We'll see you in a couple minutes, Mr. Cho. Item number one, Bill LeBlanc. Is Bill here? Oh, no, he's not. All right. Any other comments? I'm sorry? Okay.

Just to clarify, Mr. Gaten, you're adding in the exact same thing that was on an agenda before?

Yes.

Okay. And so as far as I understand, this was supposed to have been on this agenda. It was just inadvertently left off.

It was just an oversight. from the one on my part before it was published. And like I said, I didn't see it on there, but I forgot to call in and ask about it before it got published. I just asked for it to be put on here to put it on. So I made the mistake and overlooked it when it was before it got published.

And I called Ms. Arlena.

I said to Arlena for acknowledging that it was done on there. And asked her if she could just add it to this one to see if we could get a unanimous vote on it. So it was perfect. Alex will be put on the first agenda. We took a unanimous vote, and we had a vote just put on there. It was supposed to be on this meeting, and we just forgot to put it on there. So I'm just asking that it be re-put back on.

Thank you. And I'd also like to clarify that the whole note charter says that it does require a unanimous decision for it to be anything to be added to an agenda. And I'm usually the one that gets up and raises all kinds of about things being added. Because it also, our homeowner's charter also states that anything added to these, in addition to being a unanimous decision, it has to be something that's administrative. And this is one of the few times that I say, this is administrative, I'm for it. Thank you.

Thank you.

Do we have any other comments? Item 1A. Item 1A. So, this is what Mr. Baden wants to add something to the agenda.

Mr. Scholar. Mr. Scholar, once it's on the agenda, somebody, you'll be able to comment back again on that if it, if it passes unanimously. I know where you're going. Yeah, I'm heading that way.

Okay, we have a motion and we have a second.

Do we have a motion and a second, Harvey?

We have a motion, please. Motion by Mr. Baden. Second by Mr. LeDoux. Is that clear? Take a vote, please. I believe it's two against the motion says. Now, we will be addressing the approval of the agenda. We do have a motion. We need a motion and second to remove number 5, number 6, number 8, and number 10. And I also would like to add number 16, 17, and 18, and 23, and 28, 27, and 28, that will not be on this item. We'll take these one at a time for motions and seconds. Mr. Dillard, is that how that's done?

Yes, sir. Okay. Yes, sir. Okay, so we'll, we will take a motion and a second on each individual one.

We will have, we will then have comments and then we will vote on it. That's correct. That's correct. So do I have a motion to remove number five from the agenda? Motion by Mr. Darley, seconded by Mr. Mizzou. Do we have any comments from the council on this item being removed?

Are we still trying to do the, what was it, the legal, the legal paragraph or something to affect that while we did do it that last time on the other meeting?

The resolutions were not brought to us in time in OSAP.

It was the introduction that we, and we just bypassed it at a meeting before, and they said that we weren't going to go through it because of the, some about the legal, the legal description or something. Yes, that is correct. And we're waiting to finalize it.

We, the servicemen are required to give access to this resolution.

Thank you, Mr. Austin.

Thank you, Austin.

Any other questions from the council? Mr. Charlie, would you like to speak on the amending of the, would you like to speak again on the agenda changes?

I don't know.

Would you like to speak all of them at one time, Mr. Charlie?

Yes, and I appreciate some of the patience and dedication for trying to make this thing work like it's supposed to, but I mean, what we insist on is that all of your data items be in final form, ready for codification, so that people have all of the information, but more important, it follows the process, because the corporate council is the official record keeper of the records for the city itself. And so, when you do it, in final form, and it's ready for codification, so she's got that in the system. Once the ordinance is passed, then it goes into the code books. And now, I mean, eventually we're going to address the fact that she's got no safe place to put the records because the safe's never been locked, nobody's got the keys, and stuff disappears. That's the second thing. But we insist that you follow the shorter included in final form on all of the agenda items. And, I mean, this is the only time really I need to, you know, I need to just speak to the approval of the agenda. Okay. I thank you for your patience and tolerance. Thank you, sir. Thank you for trying to get it right.

Thank you. There should have been a motion to postpone this item to the next meeting, number five.

I don't see it. We'll just add it to the next meeting. All right, we can do that.

Any other questions? I don't see anything else on here for that. Okay. Vote yes. Yes, the vote is to remove. Mr. Bailey? The vote is 5-0 to remove. Do I hear a motion to remove item number 6? This ordinance is introducing a second dedication to servitude from Belcheval Partners LLC to create a servitude driver passage first station located in Hermosa Park Phase 2 subdivision. Do we have a motion? Moved by Mr. Dayton, seconded by Mr. Darby. Do we have any discussion on item number six by the City Council?

And it still follows that number five also, right? Yes, sir.

I see no cards on number six from the audience. Would anyone like to speak on that, since it is a change? No? Okay. Time to vote for the removal of number six. Voted unanimously. We're going to, the removal of number eight, introduction of ordinance abandoning the streets of Fourth Park subdivision. Mr. Baden. Do we have a motion?

We have a motion.

Motion by Mr. Baden, second by Mr. Darby. Any discussion by the members of the council? Any discussion by members of the audience? Okay. We'll have a vote, please. The vote is unanimous, so we move to number eight. Number ten. Introduction of ordinance authorizing Mayor Street to sign a contract with Rothkamp St. Lucie LLC for public works supervisor, the city of Sulphur. Can I entertain a motion to remove that? Motion by Mr. Darby, seconded by Mr. Madhu. Any comments by the city council members?

I got one for Mayor. Mayor, we're removing it because you had not everything on the contract and everything together yet. I'd better look at it first, and by the time it's up to me, I'd have to stick with it most lastly. But I am not happy with the verbiage. Can someone turn this mic up? So when I started reviewing it, I didn't look like the verbiage bill, and I agreed. I don't know what you're saying. Okay, in sub-order. Okay. Me and Gloria share a deal.

Imagine that. My lights don't work.

I'm like the first guy to read it. So I did like the verbage in the contract. It had too much, not enough of what we wanted, too much control from Austin's part in the exhibit A. And I'm not going to have that go through until they can walk that back in their hard times, which is what I feel happy with. So I wanted to take that. Okay.

In summary, members of the council are Essentially, the scope of work was just far too broad. The rest of the contract seemed to be in order, but that scope of work needs to be refined again.

Since we're talking about it a little bit, let's make sure that when we have a hurricane, where the responsibility lies. That's one of the biggest concerns I have with that. As we're finding there's a lot of, well, you know, if he's going to be plagued by us and we have a hurricane, they're a hurricane group. I'm not sure where his office is. I mean, maybe he's not the choice. Maybe we need to look somewhere else and get those verbiages to be worked out. I'm not sure it's my fault. But I believe he's a great choice. We've got to get there. We have a contract with all of them.

Any more comments from the city council?

I would probably suggest for you in the past contract agreement too, I think it's salt and due to the misrepresentation that they did in the city and some of the other stuff that I've looked at. For the amount of money that we're paying them, it's a concerning issue for me. Remember, they have a type of a skill called consultant, and we have issues on moving a location that they directed us to consult with them that we never got approved yet.

Any other comments from city council? Comments from the audience? We have a vote please. And the vote is to remove number 10. Pass unanimously. On the 16th, resolution accepted Mayor Street's appointment of Billy Rothen as Assistant Attorney, City Prosecutor for the City of Sulphur, and authorizing the execution of the contract. We're attempting to take this off because it was not a complete document at the time that it should have been complete. I have a motion. Motion by LeDoux, seconded by Mr. Darby. Any comments by the city council? Any comments by the city council? Any comments by anyone in the audience? Any council on the floor?

Just briefly, I want to tell the council that one of the reasons, the main reason for the delay was the mayor's illness last week. He just didn't have a chance to approve it. We had to get his approval before we sent the other one to Mr. Wright. And so that was the reason for the delay.

Yes, ultimate stability. Having no content, no other content. No other content. My mouth is dry. We're going to go ahead and have a vote. Vote is unanimous. Number 17, for removal, resolution of second recommendation for May of students for the appointment of Kenneth Michael Wright as city attorney for the city of Sulphur and authorizing the execution of contracts.

Do I have a motion?

Motion by Mr. LeVue, second by Mr. Garvey. Any comments from the city council? Any comments from the audience? Any counsel from the floor? Having no comments?

I don't know. I have a question. I want to direct the question directly to, is Mr. Wright here?

I don't know if he may be.

Can you come over here to where we can ask you a question? Yes, sir. This one.

How are you, Mr. Martin? Fine.

Can you please tell us, have you ever represented anyone or any employee for any matter to a previous offer at any given time? Well, in fact, this offer's 52 years. as possible that I might have in the past. I know people at the city going all the way back to where they saw me at some later. So, if I ever represent anybody that was an employee of the city of Sulphur, it's very possible. Okay. What about current administration?

No.

No current administration? No. Okay. All right. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Ryan. Any other comments? Let's vote please. Mr. Baden, no. Passes 41. Number 18, for removal, resolution accepting the recommendation of Mayor Spence for the appointment of annual audit firm Langley Williams & Company and authorizing the execution of the contract. Motion, please. And we're removing this because it was not done in the time we're in. Motion, please. We don't have a motion. Motion by Mr. Dewey, seconded by Mr. Baden. Any comments from the city council? Any comments from the audience? Any comments from the floor? Having no comments, please vote for removal. It's unanimous. Number 27, for removal. Resolution appointing a member of the Civil Service Board chosen from the list of names supplied by the New State University. This is for removal. Motion, please. No one, no motion. Motion by Mr. Darby, seconded by Ms. Montrose. Any comments by the City Council? I see no comments from, no, I'm sorry.

When, when should we see the, have you already got the list of the, the ones from that list to look at, or they have been nominated for the second one year approval, if it was ready for this?

there are two now that have been selected. Okay, I appreciate that.

Any more comments? Any more comments from the floor? Vote 3 for removal. Vote is unanimous. And we're going to vote for the removal of 28, resolution appointing a member of the Civil Service Board, chosen by, from a list of names, to apply by the Green State University. Mayor Stutes. This is for removal because the information is not given out in a timely manner. Comrade Mr. Stutes. Comments from the City Council. Any comments from the audience? Having no comments, please vote for removal. The vote is unanimous. Motion and a second. Ms. Monson, you seconded that?

We have a motion and a second.

We have a motion and a second. Motion by Ms. Monshaw, second by Mr. Baden. Having no comments from the floor or council or the audience, please vote again. Unanimous vote, thank you. Okay, we're going to vote for the agenda as amended. Do I hear a motion? Motion by Mrs. O'Hugh, seconded by Ms. Monso. Do we have any comments from the city council? No comments from the city council. Any comments from the audience? Any comments from the floor? Having no comments, we will be voting on the amendment, as amended. Vote freeze. The voting is unanimous. Now, we will be voting. I have an amendment for number one. Okay, the resolution authorizing an investigation pursuant to session 208 of the Home Rule Charter in the City of Keselta, under the City's hiring appointment suspension, and termination practices to determine compliance with the home rule chart. City ordinance says adopted personnel policies and applicable usual and allow. I would like that to read as such. Under the resolution, section one, paragraph beginning, upon adoption of this resolution, the chairman of the city council shall appoint five-person committee made up of two city council persons, which may include the chairman, and the rest is exactly the same. And I'll repeat that if you'd like.

We have to leave it.

Okay. Thank you very much. I vote on that as amended. Motion?

I vote on the amendment.

Motion on the amendment first, correct? Motion on the amendment. Second. Second by Mr. Darby, second by Mr. LeDoux. Any questions by the City Council?

I would like to speak on that and possibly add an additional request for amending it. to give clear descriptions of the issues that we're actually looking to investigate, dates, possible amounts involved, names of departments or entities involved. I mean, just where we can clarify if anything is vague on the support of the resolution. I just think it needs to be more specific. An explanation of why the issue may violate state law or financial of specific questions needed to be answered, that they need to be listed to where we know exactly what we're looking for, because it seems very, very likely.

As the public records request has been available on the question of the employment practices of sugar sulfur, the results made it very clear we needed to take next steps for an investigation. And that's, yes, it's to this point. Today we are asking to begin the investigation to ensure the employment policies of the city of Sulphur, the Home Rule Charter, state and federal, and including civil rights laws have not been violated. The investigative process will begin with authorization and structural resolution authorizing the investigation. Statement of Investigative Purpose Rules of Procedure, Conflict Review and Independent Counsel Resolution, Investigations Committee Structure. We'll then, as part two of evidence collection, document preservation notice. Initial request for production of documents, which has been ongoing. Department information request, personal process, review checklist. Part three, hearings and testimony. We will have witness notice, subpoena procedures, witness rights and responsibilities, hearing procedures, and evidence procedures. And number four, we will have findings and a conclusion. We will set an investigation timeline, evidence index, findings template, final report format, and recommendations template. And all of this will be done on a complete phased tracking form. And as we proceed with the investigation, we will proceed into these individual items. I'm sorry? This is to amend, but it's not to approve. Find what Mr. Carley is saying. All you have to do is read the Home Rule Charter, and it tells you how to do these things. And what you're doing is not being specific, because you're noticing, you say, oh, you know, I'll tell you what you're not doing.

Are you trying to have oversight, or are you trying to have a condemnation?

An investigation asks whether the high political order ordinances an adopted personnel policy. A condemnation assumes the answer before the first dining is introduced. Which vote you're taking tonight, which vote were you going to deny? Would you take that vote? If it's an investigation, the resolution is to say who conducts it, what the timeline is. The resolution is to state that, not just to be up with the court before the court. And I don't have a story time to say it. You're not doing this correctly.

We do have a resolution.

I understand, but you have to be specific, have to be time-bound, you have to list who's going to do the investigating, and amongst other things, according to the homeless order. 2.08? I think I already pulled up. Also, while I'm thinking about it, the little, little fluffy hair you have for your boots, I'm not sure it does coincide with the homeowner's order either. Yeah, I'll tell you. This wasn't even invented at the time. The court order was amended or adopted. So I'm just forewarning you to appreciate it. And this is not a condemnation. This is an investigation.

Sir, I just want you to go and list an investigation by rule of law.

Carlos, I want to say, have you seen the resolution? Have you seen the resolution? Yes, it was.

Can you hear me?

It was available online. Yes, sir, in a timely manner. Okay. And the resolution will be read. What we're talking about right now is the amendment.

You're moving and you're amending the resolution.

Okay. Thank you. Real quick.

May I ask a question, Chair?

Yes, sir.

I do want to make sure it's on the record. Based on meetings with you and I and for Darby prior to those, it's going to be, needs to be noted within your investigation of your employment interference, whether it be onboarding, current, and or prior to, that you and Mr. Darby should honor any community and to me that you would challenge me in my life as mayor Oh, you're referring to Clayton?

Point of order.

That is... No, that is very...

Okay. That you would challenge and interfere with employment of certain individuals. You both said it. You've made comments to people that you're going to fight me the whole way. I'm just here to tell you. I want it on the record. You're on the city council side. If these laws, and from your prerogative, to block neon cones the whole way, and failing the community, and interfere with employment, that's going to be dealt with too. And maybe there's another inciting investigation of what you're trying to do with the current investigation. I'm finding that we are finding it. It seems like there's some protection issues. So I just want to call that out. You can do your investigations. But you're interfering with my right to hire and fire and to run the executive branch. I want you to know that. I want you to know that.

Are you done?

It's written on the record. Okay. So, if you're going to be clear, I want y'all's involvement to be very clear what you told people in the interview. They're not back in it.

So, you're going to have to wear that team.

So, we're going on record.

How about I read section 412 of the...

charter that says the mayor may propose to the council the creation, change, alteration, consolidation, or abomination of city departments, offices, and agencies, and or the relocation of functions, powers, duties, and responsibilities of such departments, offices, or agencies, including those provided for this charter. And everything I've read in this charter says we council approval. And then the budget, hang on Mr. Saunders, I'll give you a chance to talk. When you look at the budget that was handed to us, all the way at the top is the residents of Salt Lake. They elect four people to run this city. The city council, the mayor, the city court, and the city marshal. Then there's two lines, one way on the outside of the mayor, and one on the other side by the city council. And that, everybody falls underneath that. And it's good to have our approval. Thank you. Did you help? Did you step out on the hiring process? Hey, in the charter, I know it does say that you do the iron and fire deal, but in certain people in certain positions, you do have to have our approval.

I've advised the mayor prior to this decision that, in my opinion, anything that's occurred on his hiring or firing within the city since he became mayor and he was sworn in does not constitute an administrative reorganization, although I do agree with you that an administrative reorganization does require council approval.

And that's part of the investigation. That's part of the investigation, and I said clearly to make sure that it was done in a legal manner. Now, if it turns out that it was, then it was. If it turns out that there's issues, then we'll take it to the next steps. Period. And I find it very unconstructional that you would make statements that were not functional. And that's what I have to say. And that's the end of this, and I have the floor. Okay.

Any other comments from the city council? No?

And we are on the event, we are on the, excuse me, excuse me. You, you do not have parliamentary privileges. Okay, there was no derogatory, there was nothing derogatory. You do not have parliamentary privileges. Do we have any other comment on the amended number one? Oh, I'm sorry, I can't see it, perhaps.

It's so true.

I just want to provide some additional information. The short version is a council must follow the laws and the rules. A mayor cannot do anything without council approval. What the mayor suggested was the word in mail. I know, I was there when it was put in. The word may means that he has to follow the established policies and procedures, personnel policies and procedures. If he doesn't agree with it, he may request that the council change that. He may request certain other things having to do with his job in the store, but the council does not have to approve it. But the way it stands now, currently, that is in the post-bill policy procedure, it does not provide for such a job for what has been filed. It does not follow the policies and procedures set by the council that is set by the whole movement for it. So, the word may just means, I mean, like, you tell your kids, you've got to do this, you've got to do that. Now, they may ask, well, I need more money, or yeah, I want to go this, and I want to go help myself. No. So the word made just means that the mayor can make a request. It does not mean that Allison's going to bring it. So I just want to clarify. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Charlie.

Just for the record, I don't agree with the representations made by Mr. Atkinson as it relates to the law, but I always appreciate his comments and his willingness to participate.

So, I agree with the investigation, but I don't think anyone from the council should be involved in it. That's my personal opinion. I don't think that that's something that we should be involved in.

Can I say something real quick? I agree with you, Daniel. We should just give it to whoever the authority is. And Mr. Steeves, let me clarify. What I may have said in my business on the streets were that if you were going after people in our employment, like John Wall and John Malkin, They were out of hand and painful. And he was going to go after them.

But I was fighting for protection of those guys. I never said I was protected. Yes, I am, but it was under control.

So we're going to step around and we're going to talk about the chief of staff. Let's get back to you. Well, you're talking about the restaurant. That's what you're doing. They're going to own your work. They're going to own your work.

This is going to be here for four months.

whether she's qualified or not. That's a big question. And then, of course, I'm going to say it. That's why I always speak for her. No, you're going to stand behind what you told me. And stand behind that, Your Honor. I'm standing behind it.

There's a miscommunication on the stand. You told me and other people.

I've got a document. Go ahead. Go ahead. All right.

Let's see what we can do. Ms. Hewitt, please address your questions for the chair.

Oh, I will. Mr. Chair, as far as I understand the homeowner's charter, those kids is for the right to do the investigation that you're stating. And if we're going to follow the homeowner's charter very seriously, it is whether we like it or not. You can appoint two of you or all of you, it doesn't matter. It will be a body that has to abide by open reading laws. But I do want to point out that a point of order, which I've been reading up on the last couple of days, you have to sit, you have to stand, you have to call for an order. And I'm not, if someone calls point of order, excuse me, just to disagree with you about what they're saying, that is not a point of order. A point of order is when someone is out of line according to what they're supposed to be doing. And to call someone unprofessional is not addressing the topic, it's addressing the person. I'm fine with all these investigations. I think uncovering anything that needs to be uncovered is a good thing. Light dispels darkness. When you camp in all areas, I will remind you on this, but Point of order. Anybody in here can stand up and say point of order and interrupt, not to correct you on what you're saying, but to call point of order.

Point of order is for when a law or a procedure is not followed in the right manner. And I called point of order on you because you do not have parliamentary privilege.

Mr. Steele, I'm sorry, I said correction because the other, in the other council, Marco called for the order and the chair agreed with him and said thank you and corrected him.

Well, not in the other council, I'm sorry.

Okay. I'll research what you're saying and verify and apologize online if I was wrong. I still think that calling people names in meetings is inappropriate whether I have parliamentary procedure correction or not.

Thank you. Any other comments from city council? No, any comments?

I don't know why I wasn't making comments. Trying to go off the topic. Because I feel like we voted unanimously for the revolution, and I have for the first time.

We're talking about these menus here, number one. Right.

And we're getting off track if you're talking about anything else but that. Yeah, well, that's what I'll be honest with you. I didn't sign it, so that's what I have to say. And so, you, ultimately, in the last council meeting, said that you were not going to support anything dealing with the investigation. And you said you called the Brandon Devers, but not legally. I read the resolution. So, in your last statute, 24-523, if the citizen says that the chairperson is obligated under law to do that, and you're in violation of law, then I'm not reporting that.

You're not speaking to the terms of this resolution.

I'm speaking in terms of business.

You're not speaking to the terms of this resolution, and you're not following the laws of this movement. Okay? You've got to keep track. You've got to stay on track of what we're talking about right now. Anything else? I will not allow anything else but this right now. You can speak according to the starter at the end of it. You can speak after. And you can speak about this right now. But this is what we're on, and I will teach you to be stated in line.

So there's a stronger special side of each of those?

We're talking about item number one and the amendment according to that. Anything from that is out of line.

All right, this is the panel.

Do we have any other comments from? Okay, go ahead. And this is on the amendment. This is not on the resolution.

I don't have the AV.

These are the rest from our home. You have to speak into them.

They're not only the rest of them.

You have to speak into them. They would help everybody out and you wouldn't have to put them so loud and they'd stop speaking.

Thank you. I think it's quite comical that we're gonna We can change who we allow to speak as the chair. That was all conversation over an amendment that all we asked to do was change and who was involved in the act of committee, correct me if I'm wrong. So that entire conversation was about your amendment that you're proposing to just change it from two council members to two council members and three city, three appointed representatives. and you allow that entire discussion to go on, but you shut down the people you chose to shut down. I just wanted to point out some hypotheses in that. I also do want to give Mr. LeDoux some credit for actually speaking to intent of something we may be investigating since the council chair didn't include it in his resolution. I think that I'm going to speak to the amendment, so I'm not a hypocrite. And so my question would be is why did you change your mind on this council affair?

Ms. Hoffa would be very input by having five people versus two. And who is we? Those people that will be chosen.

Can you name those people that you have this discussion with?

Me?

And so we as one person?

I also had a discussion with Mr. LePage about that.

Okay. So you and the attorney?

Yes.

And no one else?

As far as I remember, yes.

So do you understand the bias in that to not give anybody else's opinion before you change?

It is my resolution.

Okay. And so do you feel like there's two council members currently sitting on the stage right now that don't have conflicts of interest in this particular investigation after that discussion just took place? We'll figure that out once we... No, you don't figure it out once you're in the investigation to realize that there's a conflict of interest. One of the other comments on the amendment, Mr. Bill.

Bill, if you want to send this in the vertebrae.

There's a lot of bias going on in this city. We're going to have a lot of people here tonight. I hope to go back and tell everybody what you're seeing. And remember, this is election time. We've got a long way to go. But I've been talking to several of these people here, trying to get them to calm down. and try to work together. We are the last one that's talking away here in the right-hand corner. This is Bill. You don't need to talk for a minute. You don't need to talk for a minute. I'm going to tell you what. If you want to talk about talking behind people's backs, this is going on way too much. We need to stop this assaulting and be a community that we used to be. Thank you.

Thank you.

Any other comments on the amendment? Seeing no comments, do we have a motion and a second? Arlene? We do? Are there questions? I know.

Are you saying that you and who else are on the committee?

There will be me, one other city council person, and three other people on the committee.

Are you serious? Out of what district?

What's the difference in software? I will visit with every person out here for recommendations on that committee.

I think there needs to be, if we're going to approve it, we need to have one from the west side of the town as much as from the east side of town. I agree. I think that needs to be on that amendment. The other thing that needs to be on that amendment is we don't need to hear anything else about it till we So this goes through with everything. Throwing stuff up in the air and stuff like that. We need to just move on forward like Mr. Bill said and get going with it. I think that needs to be added to that amendment before we make a motion on it to vote on it.

I'm not sure what you're saying.

That once we vote, if we do vote it in and we go through this whole process of it, that if we approve the investigation,

If we approve the investigation, then there won't be nothing else said about it until we see the results come out of it. But I want that put in there as an amendment that would be a motion that if this does pass and nobody speaks of it, then we'll see results from it. I'd like to also disperse this.

That's part of the complete investigation process.

If we do vote again, we're going to move forward with this.

If we move forward with an investigation, we, y'all do the investigation, you come back and you tell us some results, but I don't want to hear about, well, you know, we found that, we're not, no, I don't want to hear that. I want to hear everything at the end of it, what you found, and then we'll make a decision on it. It's like court. I'm freaking tired of answering questions and counting. So, on both sides, I've got to say.

John Jay? Can I pass it on to Mr. Josh? Can I pass it on to Mr. Josh?

Yeah, go ahead.

So, just to clarify, I've made multiple contacts to Mr. DePedro, our chair, in regards to the investigation of revolutionaries, to be able to disseminate some of the information being that we're all participating in a council that's supposed to be supporting this resolution. Without showing bias and without showing partiality, Mr. DiPietro has decided to refrain from giving and dispersing any information that he has for the rest of the council unless he has specific ones he's going to list, but I specifically have asked for information involving the issue he has refused to divulge with me. Mr. DeBetter has also made comments that he has sought legal counsel, which a chairperson seeking legal counsel outside of our city attorney and refusing to disclose to the rest of the council members who his legal counsel is, tells me that maybe the rest of the city council needs to be represented by an entirely different legal council because he has his phone beside the voting shelf out there and he's withholding information. This is concerning to me of the type of investigation that he is participating in and that he's trying to engage in at the same time not want to participate across the board. We can't be fair and not be fair.

You know, and the thing here, we are not, I'm going to stop you, I'm going to stop you right here. We are not talking about the amendment. We are not, we are not talking about the amendment. All right, I'm not, you don't have the opportunity.

This is, I'm talking about yours and the things that you're doing involving your investigation, and I'm going to continue because I'm as nice of, For the things that you're doing, for the lack of participation with the remainder of the council, and not being able to divulge the information, you're showing a form of bias, and it seems like you have your own personal agenda, and some of your agenda is in the back of your head.

How many of you decide now that needs to stop? We're talking about the agenda for this, okay? We're not talking about the requests that you say you've made. Every request I've made is publicly claimed and is available to anybody who's interested.

I'm talking about the requests that you made for me in regards to the resolution and the information that I asked for. Okay, and we're going to talk about this, but I asked for, and I drove every word of information from my investigation to share with you and the remainder of the council. But yet you're a judge. Do you know what they're trying to say?

I want to please note that Mr. Daniels is still up in the process and is not staying with the amendment that we're trying to get through right now.

We're calling into question that Mr. Daniels has revealed information that shows violence and almost forms a part of a struggle in justice. And for my investigation of violence, that's completely, you know, when you

When things don't go your way, this is what happens. We need to stick to the agenda. And you're not sticking to the agenda. And you're interrupting, and you continue to interrupt, and you can't have it. And I won't have it. Okay, now, anyone wishes to speak on the agenda? Having nowhere, no one else to speak, I can't speak. On this amendment that you're fixing on, I'd like to ask the city council to consider turning this down. We need to get a third party... than just did anything we're going to do because there's so much bias in this city right now. It's perfect. I mean, you know, we talked about this at the last meeting, and I said some things, you know, probably got a little hot, but I mean, I'm not out now. Y'all can't get along. If I went up there and tried to go to everybody and Dr. Pecker, I'm not going to go. Y'all need to get a third party to do this if you're going to be fair with me. Because you're not going to be fair. You're not, not any one of you, going to be fair with me. Go. Thanks. Sorry. You know the child we were talking about the other day.

I mean, we very much appreciate the Council struggling. You guys have been struggling with what's happened since the Counselor and Administrator. All of this is built up, and it's just kind of come to a end. In this particular agenda item, I would just simply suggest that you remove this entire item, and you guys go back and clean it up and spell it out, and I mean, This isn't a blackjack sell to grind action. This is supposed to be, you know, a government entity that's putting a follow-up to a logical, reasonable process and such procedure for a solution for your benefit and for ours. So, I mean, I would respectfully ask that you just delete it. Stand it up, put it in final form, and come back at the next meeting. There's really no risk to it, because the lifted investigations that need to happen, there's no bottom to it. I'm like Mike, I go back to Bay Bay. Trust me. There is a lot. Thank you. I appreciate it. We appreciate your dedication and your patience and your attempts at trying to get this thing back on track. It's just a painful, grueling process, but we do appreciate it.

Member of the council, I don't know if you want to hear this proposal before you vote or after, but in light of all the comments that I've heard tonight, I have a proposal for you guys as a possible amendment, but y'all may want to vote on what's out there right now first. Whatever you always prefer.

I prefer to vote on what we have right now and then take your amendment into consideration as well. Anybody have comments?

I'd like to see us table this and get together and table it through next month. I'd make a motion to table this, to Mr. Baden, to yourself, to myself. We'll drop the motion. We'll deny it. We'll vote it down. I'm like Charlie. This ain't worked out good enough for us to move forward. We need to be all on the same page.

the motion and second on the amendment.

You can withdraw your motion, as Everton's suggesting, and the Lord will be able to defer to what's necessary.

Withdraw the motion on the floor, then I'll make the motion to table this bill 30 days. Let's call it a deferral to the next meeting. That's fine. That's what I suggest to the council.

Okay, would you agree to redraw your motion, Mr. Becerra? It's on the floor. Or do you want it to be voted on? No, we're, we're on the floor.

I'm talking about on this motion to change the number of committee members. It's currently on the floor.

So then, where, where would we be after if I would resolve this?

If you would resolve that and his motion becomes the one that's on the floor. What kind of motion? To the third of the heart of God's movement.

To the third of the heart of God's movement. I would move it. Okay. Now we need a, we have a motion and a second. I'm looking for motions to determine. Okay, we need a motion and a second. I'm sorry. I'm taking a motion. All right, now we need a vote. On the deferral.

Vote on the deferral. Any comments?

Thank you. Do y'all want to hear what my suggestion is?

Yes. My suggestion was going to be that we amend this resolution to state upon adoption of this resolution the chairman of the city council shall appoint a five-person committee made up of one appointee from each district which meant to coordinate and direct the investigation within the scope of the resolution as set forth in the top of the resolution to be referred to as a personnel committee. And what that would do is take the detail from it out, as Mr. Montreux suggested, and make an appointee from each district, as Mr. LeDoux suggested, and as the public will suggest, is that y'all not be involved. So anyway, that was just my proposal based on all the things.

And I'd like to propose that to be started. Those five people be set in place before 30 days before we vote on this. That would be needed within the district within 30 days.

And we can also add with a list of proposed appointees from each council member.

Anyway, that was just going through most of this. Thank you.

Thank you. I want to let you know, April, you have to vote on the approval of the intent, the original agenda.

Yes, you do.

Yes, you do. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

We've already done that.

We've already done that.

We're on number one.

Okay, so we're on number two. Number two, Rumerfield Plaza, the condition of the following address is to condemn the same story building or structure located at 641 Invader Street in accordance with Article 9, Section 5, 286 and 5296 of the Code of Ordinances for Deliverance.

Uh, yeah. Is there anybody here at 641 in Valleyville? I have a phone call earlier today. Yes, there is. Okay. Can you turn on the mic there?

Thank you. Ruthie Dean, Mayor, Mr. Sherman, Councilman, Mr. Lawson. My name is Heather Key. I'm an attorney at law. For purposes of making the record clear, my address is 407 North 9th Street in Cedar, Louisiana. I have recently been retained to represent Ms. Jackie Burns. Her address is 1817 Goswell Road, Charles 7611. Ms. Burns is the court-appointed executrix with regard to this particular property. The reason that I'm here this evening is to respectfully ask for an extension on the condemnation, primarily based on two reasons. One being a due process issue that I want to make sure the Council has remedy. And on the other end of the spectrum is to communicate to the Council that there is a safety issue with regard to proceeding at this point with this particular combination. More specifically, with regard to the due process issues, this particular property is owned by Mr. Carlton James Lysol, Sr. and Ms. Linda Carroll Westbrook, L.A. Both of these individuals are deceased. There are pending successions with regard to both of those individuals. Ms. Burns, who is my client, is the executive only for her mother, Ms. Linda Rachel. There is another executive. It is my understanding her name is Ms. Naomi Rachel. She is the daughter of Mr. Carlton Rachel. I do not know at this point in time whether or not due process has been given to Ms. Maroney. It's my understanding she is not aware that these proceedings are unfolding. So I think that at this point it may be pretty sure to condemn this property since there is another property owner who has an interest herein. That is one reason why I'm asking, or Ms. Burns is asking for an extension. On the other end of this cell phone, there is a very large colony. Actually, I've been told it's two different colonies of bees that are inside this drone. We have engaged in the services of finding the big people, which took us a little bit of time. the beekeeper was absolutely blown out. It was my understanding that the beekeeper's going to have to remove a part of the home because the colonies were so large. It would be a safety issue if anyone were to go out there right now, and so we deal with the removal of those bees. I wouldn't want any of them to come to anyone who's working on a condominium, and so to remove it is a monocle. On the other end of the spectrum, bees in and of themselves can provide a very beneficial environmental Who took to the people of this area? So, we're following Southwest from here. I see Mr. Malkin is through with time. So, I want to be respectful of that.

I'll make a motion to give her some more time.

Remember, the council has confirmed that we did not give notice to the other suspecting representatives. So, I would also ask that the council give her additional time. and then instruct the staff to make sure that we get notices to both successive representatives.

My only request is that you secure it. If you're saying there's dealing in there, if it's not secured, it goes not secured. You can go down in the back of the way. So we're going to secure it and make sure no children are going to walk in there and get hurt. Thank you.

I have a proposal. The beekeeper who we have found is a gentleman who is here in sulfur. Perhaps, as an idea, when we are able to, or when Mr. Lawton is able to perfect a due process notice to the other property owner, perhaps that beekeeper can orchestrate with the city to make sure that the proper arrangements are made to maintain the safety of the community around that area before any harvesting is done. Your thoughts, Chairman?

My concern is a file wandering in there and getting hurt. We have to secure it in the meantime. It has to be secured in the meantime. And I'll be the one sending out the proper letters to all of them.

Close the door.

The back door is wide open. Whenever you should.

As far as my hands, because I can only speak on behalf of my clients, I cannot speak on behalf of the other executives. My client would have no problem in securing what needs to be secured. I would ask for clarity and to make sure that my client is compliant with the request of the city, that the city perhaps provide me with a punctual list of items that need to be done so that we can secure that. And I would also ask that the city forward that same punctual list of services to the other exemptors.

How long has this property been out there? No, mine's stuck there. How long have we been looking at?

It's built on utilities for years. Wow. Yeah, it's in bad shape.

Okay. So the most of all, Mike, is we're giving 60 days. We're giving 30 days if it's secured. If it's secured in 30 days, we'll give you up to 60 days.

Thank you.

But it has to be secured.

I appreciate that.

What's my motion? Is that possible?

I'm good, thank you. Any other questions? Any other comments? We have a motion for Dr. Covington.

Dr. Covington. Mr. Covington. Mr. Covington.

Mr. Covington. Mr. Covington. Mr. Covington. Mr. Covington. There are no comments. You can vote. Vote if you want to vote. 2D, to condemn garage, shed, storage building located at 405 Bro Lane in accordance with Article 9, Section 5-286 through 5-296 of the Code of Ordinances, James Madu.

I know about this property, but I need to recuse myself off of this one for personal reasons.

I've been in contact with this resident. We're going to give her 60 days to pull her building permit, and she's going to do some alterations and repairs. Is there any water on that? I'm asking you to do a motion to defer to two meetings away or you can just give them 60 days and then they'll be final if they don't do what they said they were going to do.

Probably a motion to defer to the November meeting. November meeting.

Okay.

Make a motion to defer to the November meeting. I make the motion. Seconded by Ms. Monceau. Any comments? Time to vote. The unanimous is Mr. LeBrun refusing himself. Two seats condemn single-story building located at 1316 Dean Street. In accordance with Article 9, Section 5-286 through 5-296 of the Code of Ordinances, Floyd Darby.

Sir?

Yeah, this place, I believe there are resonating issues.

It's been a dark neighborhood for years. It's in bad shape. It's falling in on itself. It's not affordable. I have a motion to call on Kimber. Floyd's getting his ears on the road here.

We'll make a motion. Motion by Ms. Montero, seconded by Mr. Radu. Any comments? Vote, please. Okay, unanimous vote. Thank you. We were so caused, D, to condemn the accessory structure located at 2312 Mirwood Drive in accordance with Article 9, Section 2, Section 5, 286. Section 5, 296 of the Code of Ordinances.

He is, uh, he's already torn the building down, right?

Yes. So no action is in question? Okay.

Number two is to condemn single storeyed buildings located at 980, excuse me, 498 Avenue C, in accordance with Article 9, Section 5286 and 5296 of the Code of Ordinances for Darwin.

This one here, we had a communication, there's some alternatives. As you can see, the most wonderful bus that I've sailed is open. That's a bad sight.

Do we know the owner of that one?

Oh, we've been already, we've got new contacts on it.

Good to be here.

We have a motion to move them down. Motion by Mr. Monso, seconded by Mr. Baden. Any comments? Vote please. Voters unanimous. 2F, to condemn a single-story building located at 1106 Northeast Street in accordance with Article 9, Section 5-286 and 5-296 of the Code of Ordinances. Chains will do. Same situation here, no contact, no permanent school.

I also have grass and junk cases on it.

Yeah, I went by there. You can tell somebody's been staying in there.

Somebody hunkered down here and there.

Yeah, they hunkered down in there or something. The other day the door was open and then Sunday when I drove by it was closed. So there's somebody getting in and out of it a little bit. But it's very bad.

Recommendation? Demo. Demo. Okay. Is there a motion for demo? On this debate and second on this review. Any comments? Yes or no? Mr. Charlie?

when there's no contact with the owners of the property, is a notice mailed to whoever is paying the taxes? I'm just curious if it is. Okay. You just answered the question. Okay, I appreciate that.

Okay, so we have a motion to demo. Do we have a motion already? We have a motion to demo. We're going to vote. The vote is, what's the review?

East Street.

1106 East Street, right?

We just condemned that. 1106 Moseley Street.

Okay.

Okay. All right. Pass the unanimous question. 2G is to condemn single-story buildings located at 211 Evelyn Street and according to Article 9, Section 5-286 to 5-296 of the Code of Ordinances. Sounds good to me.

I did ride by this place, and if you go back to the picture that's with the blue, with the probably, probably there's no longer there's windows and the house is yellow. I guess they're saying with the comfort colors or not.

This gentleman, we had to sit down with him.

He's cleaning it out, and he's in a full of construction business here shortly. So we're going to work with him. He's communicating with us.

I'm going to give him the 60 days full finance.

Okay. So we both know that's a dammit and that we're giving him 60 days.

He's in the process of cleaning the junkyard there and he plans on doing some work.

This is motion. This is motion. I vote no.

I vote for rule. Uh, be against the condemnation. Okay. Yes, sir, it will be against the condemnation based on the inspector's recommendation.

Thank you. Motion by Mr. Darby, seconded by Mr. Lagoon. Votes?

All in favor?

to condemn the single-story building located at 200 Matilda Drive in accordance with Article 9, Section 286 and 5296, the Code of Ordinances. Daniel Mouser.

This gentleman has pulled permits. He's moving in the right direction. I have someone out there actively working.

So your recommendation is to give him 64 days or?

No, he's confirmed so he has that time on the line. Okay.

So if he's saying this is the last vote, a vote in favor of would be not to condemn. Okay.

We have a motion. Motion by Ms. Malazzo, second by Mr. Dayton. Any questions? Any comments? Vote. The unanimous vote. 2i, to condemn single-story building located at 99 Advent Street in accordance with Article 9, Section 546 through 5296 of the Code of Ordinances. Ordinance M2000MC was adopted 12-8-25 to allow for remodeling a non-conforming structure, but no work has been done. Stand and be careful.

Yeah, I believe we're giving her nine days to get an SSL report and do a few things.

But I would vote to get a motion to go ahead. Okay. I believe she's talking to the CBO at the office in that area.

Okay.

So, a vote, a positive vote.

We need a motion to give her 90 days as requested by the instructor. And a vote, a yes vote will be in favor of that. Okay.

Motion for 90 days, yes on Mr. Baden, second by Mr. Garvey. Any more comments or questions? Go to the vote, please. Remain on it. Number three, introduction of an ordinance amending Chapter 12, Section 16 of the Code of Ordinances to be installed for grass and weeds, cutting required grass on retail, commercial, business properties, maximum height of six inches rather than 12 inches. May I speak?

I was asked by the staff to amend this to change the length of the drive, and I did so. This is a simple amendment.

Okay, so we, there's only a portion of this that is being changed.

And we're going from 12 inches, but it's allowed to be 6.

Okay. Okay.

Any discussion by some council members? No? Any discussion from the audience? Did I hear you? Yes, sir. My daughter's got a business in her town. Are we going with commercial property and business property? If somebody kneels in a business, can they get away with grass or flip-flops? I mean, you've got people living in business districts all over the place, and market districts. And, you know, we pick our yard up on the daughter's business, and then they go cut the grass over there and grow all the grass and the air conditioning and everything else. There's a trailer house next door, and it's all business. And I'm gone. Commercial, yeah. We've got that saying that I mean, a lot less of a business in any grassland, you know, sometimes two-foot tall. So are we talking about something that's zoned business or commercial, or are we talking about someone that's actually done business there or commercial? That's my question.

Members of the council, section 12-16.

It says that all weeds on all retail, commercial, and business properties over six inches shall be cut. So, it's limited to those areas.

You got to answer your question if you don't. There's a place out in the middle of my land over there in Falkland Town that's got its own business and not any grass in it. I mean, I don't know what the difference is. If it's his own business or the market, I think it ought to be all the same. If you want to keep the commercial property or a business property, you ought to keep it up. Any questions from the council?

I'm assuming this ordinance is for a grant for a thoroughfare.

Well, I had to let our staff speak to that. They asked me to make the amendment. I didn't. I'm not sure what the intent was.

I'd like to have Ms. Williams speak to the specificity of this.

The intent was to clean up business properties, not necessarily what was zoned that way, but what is occupied by business. Whether it's retail, commercial, that type of thing. We're going to try to make an effort to clean up the city and reduce their limit to about 12 inches.

Fairfares are where most of those businesses are. Do you have businesses in town, though? No, I do. Fairfares be quite known. I'm very concerned about that. Now, let me say, I think that it came up because of something on Bruce Street is exactly what John was talking about.

Well, there were several properties that applauded that idea. I think the majority of our business is our own main roadway. I mean, this is part of the business itself. We look at it as a gift.

Yeah, that's part of it. I mean, it's really a notion that I'm trying to learn all this, learn a few things. And that felt good. I mean, it was good. I agree with this one. to hide from the crowd. I don't mean to resemble neglect and dishonor, but I agree.

We just don't like to have a business or whether it's retail or whatever, you should be held alive. You should be able to talk to people. What's nice to invite more business to our community, the whole community.

That was a great question. This is a show.

I believe it was redlined.

What color? I believe it was redlined in pink. Is that correct, Mr. Dillon?

Members of the council, the ordinance was in final format and public in charge of the meeting.

It's obvious that all the things that were not were eliminated from the agenda.

Yes, sir. Yes, please.

Thomas Boozlaw, 738 Sherry Drive.

I certainly appreciate the mayor taking a step to want to clean up the city, and I applaud the council for trying to do the same thing too. But, I am hired, I do some brush cutting on the side, and I do cut properties in and around Salford. The plant that I cut for asked me to cut down on my rubber cutter to six inches. Usually it's about a foot or foot and a half tall before I go and cut. And maybe there's other properties in the city that's the same way. But if I lower my brush cutter all the way down, adjust the height adjustment on the brush cutter, I might get five inches maybe. I'm just asking maybe a little bit of an adjustment. But again, I appreciate the mayor warning and the council warning to clean it up. But it's almost impossible. And we have blood-studded services.

That means that after one or two days, the message is now, you know, serving. And we've been in violation. And I don't want that to happen for the clients that I serve. Thank you.

Thank you.

Comments? Questions?

I just want to say thank you for the reasonable, my concern, taking care of your business.

Thank you. Do we have a motion? I think we have a motion, don't we? No? Motion? I can't read. Mr. Daugherty, seconded by Mr. McGee. Any other questions? Countings? Vote please. Voting unanimous. On number four, introduction of ordinance amending contract between the City of Sulphur and Powder Gulf LLC for disaster recovery following natural and man-made disaster. Extended contract for one additional year and extend definition of spill dirt. Ordinance 1526, Mayor Steeves.

Yes, Mr. Chair. The four amendments require us, as I mentioned, to have a PQDR program.

For one, we need to obtain a timeline of our business contract. But also, I think the contract didn't have a line item for a full mark.

And we have one for the rest of the stuff that we've got. We're fighting for our funding. I don't want to discuss that. So we're including that. So it can be repurposed. Thank you.

Motion. Motion by Mr. Dahlgren, second by Mr. LeDoux. Any questions from the council? No questions from the council. Mr. Charlie?

We would ask that this, uh, this artist who found out all this final form reports that I got from him. The last time the city of Sulphur engaged Crowder Jones for services, there was a question about the service that caused the abomination, I'm not exactly certain, But the issue was that the council and the administration, in dealing with Proud of Golf, could not even find a signed copy of the contract to help Proud of Golf about. So if this ordinance is in a final form, all spelled out, ready for codification and documentation, the corporate council would have had the signed document and it would have showed up in the minutes and in the ordinance book. But as it is now, I just don't understand why this can't simply spell out the ordinance, ready to be codified, rather than peace-pelled.

Do you feel like there's no sadness to that?

I mean, it's almost there, but... Mr. Council, I think that the ordinance is clear and in final format, ready for your adoption. The attached proposed amendment clearly sets forth the revised billed-out description, and it's ready for your vote.

So how come the people don't have a clue what's in the contract?

It was attached and published for everyone to see. And all the items that were not correct got deleted from the agency.

Thank you. Any other questions? We have a motion and a second. Okay. We'll have a vote, please. Come on now. Do you have to push the button? There we go. Are you unanimous? Let's see where we are. No. 7. Introduction of an ordinance amending the Code of Ordinances of the City of South Louisiana to Establish Safety of Education Martin, you said bonding, damage repair, financial responsibility, requirements for contractors, vendors, utility companies, and other persons performing work within the city itself. Provide for protection of city property, public infrastructure, utilities, rights of ways, and public. Providing for contractor responsibility for hazards, damage, and restoration, and providing for enforcement in related matters. Dr. David.

So, I put this ordinance in place after we had the whole safety issue on the corner of Cypress and Huntington denied it was under repair. And there was no storage boxes in the ditches, and the water had been leaking in that area for some large amount of time and created an unstable ground underneath it. So we decided that we had hired some contractors to come in and do the work for us. I want to make sure by providing this ordinance that those guys that are coming in to do work for the city are probably better than insured and that they are tried to make sure that they keep a safety guy that is certified on site to make sure that it relieves the city of liability for some unsafe work conditions. for the employees and for the city employees. And I just think that these guys coming in as vendors need to be probably life-saving, not really safety guys. So I'm just going to be there on site with them at any given time to make sure that they're going to have some work to do.

Can I speak to this? So, we have taken measures ever since that night. I've gotten with some workers working to designate a person to track that follow-up, as well as images from contractors, telehealth companies, and to follow those safety measures. So, we have started that process, just to let you know if somebody employment side on our side, get rid of those things up. I mean, I'm in agreement with your department platform, but just know that the ministry has taken measures to have someone fill that position before. I forgot to tell you something.

We have a motion. Motion by Mr. Darby, second by Mr. Dayton. Any questions from the council? Council floor. Council floor. Council floor is closed. Council floor. Any questions from the council?

Well, I was going to say, I feel that most of our current vendors and stuff, I think the rest of America is a lot more garbage.

But I'm not going to do that.

I'm not going to take that from that night. I was wondering about people who are already in the contract.

Sure.

Because it sounds like people aren't in here yet.

Well, in the process, we definitely saw that pollution under way. Also, I was out there until 1.30 that morning. Just to go down as well. So, you know, a lot to be learned by that, which I think that shows no better. impact on the forest and as well as the lives of other countries that come in, but it's a story that's one we're going to keep fighting back on for us as well as the federal government.

Still on council. Still on council. Questions for the council? Comments?

I think that ordinance, it doesn't just cover safety issues. I think it covers the licensing, some of the licensing required by mechanical contractors and certifications. And I think that from this point forward, I think we have to do a better job of making sure that the contractors that are coming in to do work for the city properly vetted, that if they're doing FEMA work under FEMA contracts, that they need to have either a DUNS number or a SAMS number, because a lot of those projects require a pervaded wage, and we need to have some ways to monitor that stuff and make sure that the city does fall back on that for some reason.

I have a question. Mr. Billy, did you have an opportunity to review this ordinance?

Were you given an opportunity to have it?

I guess I had the opportunity to do it, but I have not reviewed it and approved it. I think Mr. Baden put it together and decided how he wants that done. I'm not saying that I'm refusing to approve it, but I can't

I would think it would be a good idea for the city attorney to look at it and make his comments. Since I have many, many comments on it, I would like to have the city attorney look at it before you vote on it.

Maybe just for...

I can review it and make any suggestions or opinions for amendment at final action.

I think that ought to be done with those 7,000 that we do get some federal vote on.

I think an ordinance would be good to enforce that measure on what's known. And this is just an introduction. We'll vote on an ordinance the next meeting or following a meeting. And then the amendment, we've got to do, that's the second thing we've got to do if we do pass this? No, I... Are you going to take just a note for us? I can review, make suggested revisions, submit to the council, and if there'll be a council of rings reviewing them on them, if you can make them prior to final adoption. So it says... next motion or second to amend to the third chapter, second number in the code rule. Right. But that would be at the next meeting. Correct. Okay. That's just what it was. It's just a reminder. Okay. Absolutely.

Okay. I'd still like to move to the third until we get a copy that's been reviewed.

in the council and just amend that one. That's a good question.

Yeah, you can introduce that in here as an amendment as final action, or you can defer it. That would be the council's surprise, council's discretion.

Any other questions from the council? Do we make a motion on this? We did already. No more questions from the council. Questions? Mr. Sala is in. He's been there since the very beginning. Mr. Sala. Yes, sir. Thank you.

Again, the public is left out of what's really going on, and a lot of times some of the council members. The ordinance has to be in final form when it comes to duties. You can't change it at the last meeting, at the adoption meeting. Any changes you make, the process starts over. You have to have it in final form, ready for codification. a week early so the people got a chance to look at it, then you have a public hearing. And I also would like to, and I support what we're doing, I'm just, I'm talking about the process and procedures that includes the public and doesn't cut them out. But I would also suggest, because I support what you're doing, if the biggest, one of your biggest problems that this city has right now is when it came to light that when the city did not issue T-Mobile a permit, T-Mobile just went in and did what they wanted to do, and now there's no modern standard, there's no old harmless clause, and what you have is that they didn't have to go to any death special occasions, So what you've got is a web of fiber optics, and every time the city goes and services a water line or sewer line, they go like they will break it. The biggest problem you've got right now is in the public waterways. From the ground up, there's some regulations, but from the ground down, it's a free-for-all. I mean, it's every man for himself. It's a mess. And that was the reason, given to me, why they didn't issue a permit to people, because it's such a mess. So, in your effort, I would suggest that you say that the first four feet underground is for sea utilities and drainage. From four to five feet, they put electrical and natural gas. And six feet more, you put fiber optics and cable. Because right now, it's a mess. You would assume that there would be different debts for different services. And right now, every time a city employee goes to service city services, Because our locking will break those tables. But again, the ordinance needs to be in final form so people can comment on it and make suggestions or suggestions like I just did.

I think Mr. Dilley will comment on that about the final form.

Mr. Council, the substantive language of the ordinance was published in full.

And the law does allow us to amend it when we adopt one final action. I just disagree with Mr. Carley. I still love him.

I'm not sure what law you're looking at, but the Home Rule of the Charter is not governed by a state legislature. The Home Rule of the Charter can only be changed by a vote of approval. It's only been changed one time for the red light cameras. The Home Rule of the Charter only answers to the state consequences, not for the Louisiana government, not for the state legislature.

Thank you so much. Any other questions between you?

I do not recall anything in the charter, and please correct me if I'm wrong, that states that the attorney should be looking at the agenda items before they come to be presented at the council meeting. But I would also be curious to know that if we want the lawyer to look at this ordinance, why wouldn't we want the lawyer to look at every ordinance? So I'll experience this from where your question came from. As I assume if you looked at the agenda and brought up any concerns for our two meetings, and so they will be addressed at the meeting, and then other things could be passed out, you know, rest days come up. So it was my understanding, but I do not recall that being stated specifically in the charter, but it was my understanding that he was involved in putting together the agenda. And so if there's concern about an agenda item, why wouldn't the city attorney bring it up prior to the meeting? So I guess my question is, after all that, why would you ask such a question? What's your concern?

My concern was that I had questions about the ordinance as listed, and as I read through it, it became very clear that it was not Mr. Billy's work, and so I asked accordingly because I'm God.

Can you let me know how you knew that was clear? That it was not Mr. Lawson's work that you asked him prior to the meeting?

Can I see Mr. Sussman? No, sir. I'm sorry. No, sir.

You're more than welcome to refuse that answer, but were there conversations prior to the meeting regarding this agenda item and the sustainability related to it?

I have conversations with Mr. Loftin about every item that comes out of the meeting.

Did you share those concerns with the council prior to the meeting?

Which concerns me.

Did you let the other four council members know your questions that you had on this particular ordinance?

We got this very late in the process. So I had concerns, but I didn't voice them. But I did voice them tonight.

And so you didn't do it prior to today? Or was this tonight at the meeting?

As far as I remember, yes.

And you worked with Mr. Lofton often enough to know what his work looks like?

I just didn't see what was the work of an attorney.

Okay, so we just assumed that it was his work, or it wasn't his work. Is that how we're doing this? That's how I'm doing it. Okay, because all I heard tonight was let's follow the rules, and that just doesn't seem like fair rules to follow. So thank you.

I think it's very fair to let a city attorney do his work in order to ensure that the safety of the city the safety of the people of Sulphur and to keep any possible litigation from happening when we put a document together like this. And after all that, we still have a lot of space.

And after all of that, and specifically have been asking for For actual items, we've been asking you to be specific with your concerns throughout this entire two-hour plus meeting, and yet you're still not being specific on what your issues are. But you're against it, apparently.

Well, I can go through it.

Go through it. That's what we're here for. Am I wrong?

Because we all need to know your concerns, too. Are you going to interrupt me every time I have a question?

Excellent, if you think I'm correct. Yeah, I probably will. So apologize for using my time like I used to.

You're going to stop when we have questions.

You realize that. You know that.

Well, since when do we follow the rules, Chairman? Let's not sit here and act like we haven't been cheeky.

You can take a seat now.

I still have a minute and 33, so this final question is, did you have a conversation with the lawyer prior to the meeting tonight regarding this ordinance? The city attorney. Okay. Thank you.

Okay.

We have a motion, and then, okay, are we going to get a motion to defer? Or will I entertain a motion to defer?

We'll defer and amend it.

Okay.

Any comments?

No, we'll sign the motion to defer. Okay, who made the motion? Any questions from the council? Questions from the audience? Yes, Ms. Shearer?

I think we've already talked about so many things. I'm not sure if you're voting. If you're debating still, you would prefer voting to defer, or? Not voting to defer.

OK, thank you. Sir?

Thank you.

Bye.

Votering?

Sanchez? Rivera?

Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

And then, what percent increase every five years?

So roughly $2,500 and less would be the income.

And they did confer with another expenses that that would be around, I was a parent of a Morgana guy, getting that $2,500 a month. Five years it was long. Thank you.

Motion. Second by Garvey, second by Baden. Question and comments from the City Council? Questions from the audience? Questions from the floor? Number three. Forty-three, animals. Number ten. Number eleven. Introduction of Ordinance, Creating the Home of the Retaliated Mission. Fifty-Fourth and Twenty-Sixth, Daniel D. Petter. About three years ago, the Charlie Commission was put together to review a document that was nearly 40 years old. I think it's time we put another commission together. There are things and changes that were made that need to be made. You know, the charter is still operative, but portions of it are outdated and vigorous. Transaction went intensely inconsistent with subsequent enacted constitutional and statutory requirements. Motion? Mr. Darby? Seconded by Ms. Monser. Any questions by the State Council?

Yeah. Once again, I'd like to make a motion to defer this at least 30 days for us to have time to talk to each other about it. I appreciate you bringing it up on the agenda tonight. I think it's something we dearly need to look at. I suspect right now we've got other things going on. I think we need to be on an agreement of how we're going to go forward with this before we adopt anything. That's just my motion. I would suggest we defer it.

I think this is needed also, but if you bring everything on, I mean, like, there's always going to be a lot going on. I feel like if we continue to put everything on, it seems like every single month we're going to have a lot going on. It's time we just get things done. I mean, I think this is just that also. And we do have a lot going on, but we keep deferring everything, so we're always going to have a lot going on.

I just thought this is a big item being here, and we need to have some quick conversations before we just are bounced up and ready to do something. And I haven't had any conversation with anybody And at this time, that's just my feeling. So I think it's very, very important. But I think we'll all have some focus and confidence on it before we actually get this done, maybe.

Is it just where we're still working on the basin?

Yeah, I guess, but we'd be here for three hours to understand where we're going with the charter commission, and I don't think anybody's in agreement right now from what I understand with where we're headed. So, I hope you need to have a vision before you start plotting a path. That's just my opinion.

I think that's why we were commissioned together to plot that path and to make determinations as to where we're going with it, the people that are going to get involved in it, And the individual statutes, they first need to be addressed with the city, excuse me, with the state, the city not being in compliance with the state, and then take it from there and move it all around. You know, last time we did it in the grand summer for the baby all with the bathwater, and I think that we need to take it in changes. We just have it here tonight, and we can visit on it for the next 30 days. I think we've done it on other items tonight. And being the last starter commission chairman, I would be glad to sit down with any one of them and kind of go through what we did the last time and go through things that worked and go through things that we didn't think worked. So I think right now it's very paramount that we look at this climate, as of this year it's four years old, with very little changes of change.

And we are in a position right now where we need to update it, especially when we are not in compliance with state statutes at least for a few months.

So I move that we move along and get things going and we have 30 days to talk about it and we can pass it and we can turn it down now.

I'm going to make a comment on that. Even your instructions in the last council meeting, if you thought that we were picking on too much at the time, we were able to return the general's opinion. Adding additional stuff, well, we had the investigations, I think, undertaken. Reviewing all of those harder right now is an extremely large undertaking, and I think we need to move forward to a later date. I'm not saying that it does not need to be reviewed and it does not need to be addressed, but I think that we need to delay this process for a little bit longer until we can get back to some of this.

Any other comments from the city council? Comments from the floor?

Okay, members of the council. We have a, as it stands, we have a motion and a second to approve the ordinance, and then we have a suggestion for a deferral, so if the elect don't know where we stand right now.

Ethan Miller, 101 Willing Lane. I want this to happen. I don't want to be voted against. I would like to be the first to have this commission. Thank you. Any other comments? Yes sir?

I don't know, perhaps it's just that I agree with Mr. Gordon, and I guess we need to do this first, because the whole report actually spells out verbatim for you how to do this. So, there shouldn't be much to note, because the whole report already spells it out. And worse of that is, it is not disorderly. I was speaking as the next president of the new ordinance, creating a home rule for our commission. Introducing to us the vehicle. It does not state the commission. It often comes later. And that's what Mr. Collins has been trying to tell you guys. You're not doing this quite correctly. first is actually, what is actually on the agenda? I, Ms. Harlow, entered up an ordinance creating a whole quarter of it. It is not listing in our needs. There are no names on the agenda. This draft in front of you also has no names. There's nothing to confirm tonight. And I appoint, well, that's fine. And I'm saying it's not time to do that. And is this, will this commit to be appointed or not? We've got a law that gives this council two doors. A plan of commission for all the rest of your loved ones. The rest of your door is mandatory if a valid temporary petition is certified. Is there a certified petition? If not, say you're choosing an appointment. And say, who takes each system? The mayor? Who? The council as a whole? Question mark? last time, and believe me too, it's a dozen in the name for two different nights, so I assume that's how it's going to be this time. Why can't I see now? Third, why, uh, where's that? I'm asking you to kill some mission. I'm asking you to just step in the water. It's this night, Indian society, publish the ordinance and take the names from the bodies of Jews and Jews. And tell the board whether these people will be appointed or put on a ballot. If the motion is only to introduce both acts, if the motion is to name seven people, that is a different item than the one on the agenda. Thank you. I'm going to read the resolution to this for a point of clarity. Orders creating the Home Rule of Charter Commission for the City of Sulphur, whereas in accordance with Section 6, excuse me, 7-06E of the Home Rule of Charter of the City of Sulphur, the City Council may appoint by ordinance a Home Rule of Charter Commission, and whereas in accordance with LSARS, The following provisions are applicable to charter commissions. Section 1. Be it ordained that charter commissions shall be subject to the following provisions. The terms of the charter commission members shall expire with either the adoption or the rejection of the charter by the voters. In situations where no charter has been drafted by the end of an 18-month time period, Members' terms will automatically expire, and the full text of the proposed charter shall be published once the official journal publication of the majority of the municipality or parish within 30 days after the submission to the local governing authority of the municipality or parish. Responsibilities for publication rest with the governing body effective. If a parish or municipality are involved, Publication shall be by the parish or its official journal, and members of the commission shall reside as a registered voter of the city of Sulphur. The commission shall consist of not less than seven or more than 11 members. The members of the commission shall take office immediately after appointment. The proposed charter shall not be altered or changed in any way by the governing authorities of the municipality. It gives us seven spots to put people in between now and the next possible vote. Section two, be it ordained by the city of Sulphur, by the city council of the city of Sulphur, Louisiana, that they do hereby create a home no-shark commission for the city of Sulphur in accordance with provisions of section one. Section three, be it furthest ordained that the ordinance shall become effective upon mayor's signature in any or in any manner or effectiveness of ordinances without the mayor's signature. That's the total resolution. Okay. Yes. Oh.

It's really quite confusing why you would want to form a travel commission. We tied this down over 45 years ago. And the present homeroom charter is brand new. It's never really been used or fully followed. And we would have to assume to the point Now, past city government saw it as that it gave too much power to the people because the entire original home rule charter style, all the paper copies and everything, everything to do with the charter was gone. It's missing. And that tells us right there that it's too strong in favor of the people. I also would suggest that when this charter was written, that we were able to put things in the charter that we currently have that the legislature can't change. but it could be that if we write a new charter, things that the state legislature did might affect and reduce the powers of city government and the city itself, or maybe the powers of the people. I would just suggest that you give the current home rule charter an opportunity to work. This is, I mean, this is nuts to try to not follow what is already there. Once you follow like you're supposed to, then you can identify something that you do not like, and then you can put it on the ballot for people to change. The only way the charter itself can be changed is by voting people. That's only happened once. And that was with the red light cameras. Even though when you look on the city website, it lists tables and lists numerous changes to the charter. The charter has never been changed. Everything you see on the website, the city website relative to charter changes, is incorrect. So, I mean, obviously, We believe that you should give the current forum the opportunity to work, to try this one out. And then, if you don't like it, they must have this discussion. But you have it right off of the bat. I mean, everybody's struggling trying to get on the same page who likes the Senate. But we tell this crowd. And we know that what we talk, Yes, if you follow. Thank you, thank you.

I'm against the Charter Commission.

You know, because I don't think you understand the legal ramifications once you do that. I don't think you understand what can happen.

Thank you, Mr. Chalmers.

You can tell the review committee or something like that, but not a Charter Commission. Okay.

Ms. Windy?

All right. So, I actually somewhat agree with everybody who's spoken. You know, just to prove the point on why this needs to be deferred tonight is mostly because I really don't want to have to vote no because I obviously agree that there are lots of things that need to be changed. It comes down to all the payoffs that the city has been experiencing in these last couple of months. And it's such indeed that the council chair just actually read for the public that they say that there's no less than seven, no more than 11, and that it's an employment role. I'd be curious to know if he doesn't even have two people off the top of your head to appoint at this time, or is this going to be chair appointed only? I really don't care about an answer because I don't think that any of that would change my mind, but just that alone should be a reason to defer, just to decide how to come up with this as a committee to make sure it's fair across the board, and to make sure we get out of it what we're looking to get out of it. Just with the city administration, we have so many new positions right now that I don't know who we would even consider a content expert except for... our true original content creator that actually was responsible for being involved in this. But right now, we have a new mayor, a new entire council, a new city attorney that's going to be appointed at a later date, along with all kinds of other new appointments. We're going to have a new CFO, a new IT director, who is going to be the content expert to give us recommendations on how to do this correctly. we can actually get the people to vote for it. Because not once in this conversation have I heard anybody say they asked for public input on how the public feels about moving forward with the charter committee. And if I remember correctly, in the past, the mayor has actually been somewhat against changing the charter. And I think, correct me if I'm wrong, Ms. Sula, but I think she actually started a petition way back in 2022 do actually get things like time limit change and other things that have been discussed by the public. So my recommendation I'm not against maybe creating a committee to learn the rules, learn the charter, because how can we change something that we're not currently following? That's one of my biggest concerns is it's an all-new council that is not familiar with this charter. In my opinion, the way that it's being interpreted means that we're not familiar enough to make changes. We have to know our job before we change our job. If there's huge legal issues, then hey, I'm all about it. But ultimately, this is going to have to go to the vote of the people. And if you do not involve them and get them on your side, it doesn't matter how much work you put into this. And so, don't think wasted work, just like it was for the last two votes, because I genuinely feel like they just weren't presented appropriately.

Thank you.

Ms. Sheila?

Just a little bit of background. About six months before the 2022 Charter Commission was put in place, I spent six months studying Robert's local border, the Home Rule Charter, and the Constitution in regards to the Home Rule Charter, and the state Constitution is what says that you can hold an election or you can appoint. In 2022, I strongly felt there should be an election because I didn't trust people at that time. So, you know, I did put together a petition and took it around, talked to 900 people, 95% of people wanted an election. But at this time, I really don't feel like that that's necessary. Am I reverberating? I do feel like an appointment would be more timely when we do get this started. And I would like, necessary, if you're going to go through with this, that you explain in the resolution how those people are going to be appointed, because we didn't know until the appointment came up that the mayor was choosing to, and each person got to choose one, which is very fair, but it does seem like that should be told ahead of time. And I know that in 2022, they got a blank slate, and we didn't know until the meeting came out, but they wouldn't tell us when we asked who was being appointed. I don't feel like that's really very transparent, and I don't think it's asking too much of y'all to make a decision before this is voted on as to who you would put in. And that takes time. So I respectfully disagree with the chair, people who, excuse me, with the council members who want to put this forward. It's like the chair said, this is an incredibly important document. But you have to stop and think, what's happening now? you people are not getting along. I mean, I'm, you know, let's not be, let's not be critical of the disturbance of what's happening. And I think you all will get along. Once the time has gone on and you've started to work together, I think all five of you have real possibilities of working together. But when you've got one investigation going on that's going to include How many different agencies, the FBI, the AG, the Ethics Board, it's going to include so many different agencies. I assume it's going to be tied up. How many departments do you have to talk to? And the whole of partner committee meetings, were very different in 2023 than I hope they're going to be today because they didn't have to research a lot because Mayor Dana Hay rewrote the charter and emailed it to them. I have those emails. And they voted on those things that you put in there.

Only two families were discussed that weren't in there that the mayor had given to them. I think I need more time.

I need more time. Can you vote on that please? Thank you. So there are things here not aligned, to say not aligned with the Constitution is not really correct on most of the items. I do have a spreadsheet on our group concerns. This is a silver Facebook group with spreadsheets that list all five changes that were proposed. And some of those changes were just a little off of what the difference, it's just different than what the Constitution has, and it's okay to be different. They're not misaligned, they're just different, on most of it. I think the most important thing is the time element that's involved in this, that will be involved in this one. Because for a committee to do the job correctly, they need to talk to the HR department when they go over that section. We have ran the HR department, so we don't like, like I said before, We don't have people with history in that department to advise people of public works. All of those are in that charter, and all of those you need to consult with. We do have a public works director. We've got a brand new mayor. We've got brand new people. Mr. Mayor, I have a question for you, Mr. Chair. May I ask you my question, or would you like for me to turn it, because I did turn it out?

You can read it for me.

Mayor Stinks, do you believe the city can handle these investigations currently underway and the additional demands of a whole rural charter committee without taking significant staff time and resources away from running the city and serving its citizens?

No.

I would recommend wholeheartedly to listen to the mayor. This city is under strain. We do not need to add strain. One more thing. We need to see you all working and getting along. We want to see that. We believe in you, and we believe you can do that. But you need a record of doing that before you get here, before you get to the Home Rule Charter. There's a section in there on your case. Do you really think we're going to be able to have a good conversation with the public about that? They need to see you all working together. This is not part of our department. That's not going to work. That's not going to work. In my mind, it needs to be two years. But at least closer to a year is certainly more than six months, because most investigations that I've written in the first take three to six months, municipal investigations, three to six months. So you've got two investigations going concurrently, three to six months, all these agencies following the city and working with the city that's going to cause havoc. Thank you for your time.

Thank you. Hold on a little bit. Mr. Berry, did you speak on the charter? I did.

Yeah. Any more comments?

What?

Mr. Abbott can run all the time.

You'll need to vote for him to have additional time to be consistent.

Mark confirmed. Very nice.

Vote. Three minutes, Mr. Chairman.

Sir?

Three minutes.

I just want some, often some clarification. The whole new court lays out the framework of the powers and responsibilities, say, of the council. The Home Rule card does not dictate anything to do with public works or personnel or none of that. It simply gives you the authority to establish processes and procedures that the city administration has to follow. So once you have the power and you enact human resources, policies, and procedures, then that has nothing to do with the thought. The thought gave you the power to do it. You can change that at any time. The same way the public works. You can change that at any time. And like I suggested, when you look at the Home Rule 4, on the website, it claims, and I think Ms. Roussard says that Mary Dana A. had made some changes. Mary Dana A. cannot make changes to the Home Rule 4. It's only done by those of people. All those things that's listed on the city website that say the Home Rule 4 claims they are not. You still have the powers. What this claims was the policies and procedures. And if the council did not approve those processes and procedures, then it's not in effect. So I'm just, I'll post that, so I'll follow that, and then I'll just help you understand that it's like the Constitution of the Comfort. It spells out power. to do, you guys have the authority to do these things. So there's a misconception that everything you do is somehow related directly to the children you've got to tell you. You've got all the powers and the authorities which you need to do to run city government. So I'm just asking that you, I know this thing is It's got to have been just a mind-boggling challenge to the newly elected council members and the mayor to get everybody here. But I'm just asking that everybody sit down together and go through the floor and try to understand it. I mean, there's one thing with the letter of the law and then the intent of the law. Thank you for your consideration. in your time and service that I have tried to work through this. It is very, very, very much so.

Thank you, Mr. Chauvin. No other comments? I'd like to make a motion for deferral.

Do you want to get deferral then?

Yeah, I'll make a motion for deferral.

I'll remove my motions for the vote, and I'll make a motion for deferral. Secretary's motion? Yes. Okay. Vote for deferral.

Vote for deferral.

How long? Indefinite. Until we bring it back. Indefinite? That's true. Indefinite until we bring it back as an emotion.

There's a second for Mr. Baden. Vote. Public hearing number 12, known as .

I would like to make a motion for a five-minute recess. Okay. I need to go to my truck and get some medicine for a quick gossip. Okay. And I got over a million cents of money to take care of, too. If you don't mind, I'd like a motion for a five-minute recess. Okay.

Second. Make the motion. Second. Okay. Vote. When we turn back, vote. Turn back at 820, let's call it 825.

Have a motion to reconvene.

So moved. Mr. Bain, seconded by Mr. Dahlge. Vote please. Mr. Dahlge, aye. Seconded by unanimous vote. Item number 12, public hearing on the ordinance defining certain surplus movable property of the city of Sulphur and providing for disposal thereof, metal and vehicles. Clear as two. All in favor?

All in favor?

So I think we've got a handful of comments. Thank you. Any questions from the City Council?

Any questions from the audience? All right, thank you. Motion to approve. Motion by Mr. Dodd and seconded by Mr. Aziz. No comments. Please vote, please. Number 12 passes unanimously. Number 13, resolution awarding low bid receipt for high sodium hydroxide 50% solution, 90,000 pounds per feet. Go ahead. Thank you, Chair.

We have a question of two, two days on this. Mobility, there being universal solutions, sorry.

for $18,351. They've got the next qualify over $400 there, which is almost $13,720.

Is that your recommendation?

Yes. Okay.

Is there a motion? Is there a motion? Motion approved by Mr. Doug. It's seconded by Mr. LaVue, question from the council, question from the audience. And the move is to accept your low bid by Univar Solutions of 18351. Can I have a vote, please? The unanimous vote carries. Number 14, resolution awarding low bid for Diet Diesel, 5,000 gallons. Mayor Stoops.

I'm from New York City, can I speak to that?

We owe one bid by Go Bear Oil Company this week. The unit cost was $5.06.

And that's your recommendation? Oh, Terry, most beloved. Mr. Garvey, seconded by Mr. Baden. Question? Question from the audience. Vote, please. Mr. Baden. The vote is unanimous. Resolution number 15, amending resolution number, excuse me, 3674, and he's serious, the amendments section. And regarding Congress by the Council, Mayor, and public agenda items, 3926, Danielle Munson. Yeah, I just think it would be a smoother way, a smoother process for people to be able to address these issues.

I mean, I think, I just kind of talked about it last time. I can talk about it a little bit again if y'all want.

I'm going to share the book.

I think it's best to be able to sign up on a sheet of paper, put it in the item, the resolution is right there. And right before you make a choice, they're going to be brought in here, and we're able to call people in order. They get a full five minutes to speak. And I think if they still continue in line, and it's not going to be down to five minutes, the chair, rather than shelving and voting, I feel like, I mean, that takes up a whole she'll be able to say anything about the same. I just thought it would be a smoother process.

All right, do we have a motion? First by Mr. Bates, seconded by Mr. Darby. Any questions by the council? Questions by the audience?

And then, you know, I'm assuming that, you know, if it's legitimate and they want us to, we're going to give them a little time. I mean, we're not just going to say, hey, seven minutes. We're going to be.

I just think there has to be a time limit at some point. But, yeah, I mean, I think we're all in agreement that we want people to be able to listen. Good. Okay. Thank you.

I'm just trying to avoid these. I feel like we're constantly stopping and giving people time and all that.

We want people before to have a say because we're not having them stop their train of thought and go to London.

I agree. Thank you.

Any other comments from the council? Ms. Windy?

I actually think this is a good thing. I think that opening with five minutes versus three will actually alleviate some of the need to continue with additional time. I know I can be somewhat long-winded, and I think if I had five minutes, I wouldn't have to request a whole lot of additional time. So I think that's one of the best changes in this. I don't feel like we shouldn't have to ask for a vote to follow state and charter regulations. But I also understand you guys got it off at some point. And so I think for me, it's just about being consistent with whatever, just being consistent with whatever we decide. And are you? No, no. I want to say yes.

Oh, okay. He wants to show you. I'm sorry. He wants you to show, he wants to show the binder that what she, what she come up with for you to sign up with.

Perfect, yes. But I love the sign-in sheet and I will admit that I come from Lenturals and Lent days are always my latest day, so I'm going to be cutting it close at 530. And so, my only recommendation would be to maybe use some cards for them to fill out if you are running a little bit late to add to your list. But I think it is much easier to track that versus picking red, green, blue, or whatever the color cards are. So I think it narrows it down, and I think we'll actually get more public input if we don't have such a business process. So my main thing is I just want consistency with whatever you guys decide. I don't think these are huge changes by any means, but I do think it will invoke more conversation with the public.

Thank you.

I mean, it's very simple and simple.

I'd also like to note that she did that for the sole purpose of putting your name and address on this thing. That way you're not having to get up here and hold your personal address of your location to the public. This is kind of a private thing, whereas the, um, the original, um, We'll just give you a name, and we have your address and stuff already written down, so you don't have to post it.

Okay?

Motion.

Any other comments? Motion? We already have a motion. Vote. Vote, please. Clear.

So, thank you.

Here we go. Vote is unanimous. Resolution number 19. Resolution accepting recommendation of Mayor Stoots for the appointment of Austin Abrahams for the Director of Public Works. Mayor Stoots.