Housing, Urban Development and Zoning - Regular Meeting

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Good morning everybody. My name is Sandra Long, Hearing Officer for the City of St. Louis Conditional Use Hearings. My colleague Trey McCarter and I will be conducting today's scheduled hearing on applications for our Conditional Use Permit. In addition, Deborah McLemore is here with us acting as Secretary for the hearing. We are recording these hearings as a permanent record. We ask that you remain on mute if you are not giving testimony. if you are calling by phone it is star six to mute and unmute if multiple people are sharing a screen we ask that only one person speak at a time and please restrain from side conversations during an individual's testimony these requests are made so we can accurately record the information and hear from those giving testimony Each address is called by the hearing secretary. I ask that the applicant or representative indicate you are present. I will then ask you to state your name and your address for the record. After a time of questions with the applicant, I will call for testimony from any persons in favor of the application. Then I will ask for testimony from any persons in opposition to the application. Following today's hearing, our office will make a recommendation to the Board of Public Service, which is a separate department here at the city. They will make the final determination as no decisions will be made here today. Therefore, you are welcome to leave or stay on the call and listen. The Board of Public Service will notify the applicant by mail regarding the findings of your conditional use permit. Deborah, will you please read the first case?

Yes. ALP-13- 310-26 6831 Manchester Avenue, Suite 100, Ward 4, Zone J, Industrial District.

Do I have anybody here for 6831 Manchester Avenue, Chandra's Child Care LLC? If you're on a cell phone, it's star six to unmute. Okay, we'll come back to her at the end. Deborah, will you please read the next case?

Yes. ALP 13617-26 2644 Cherokee Street, Ward 7, Zone G, Local Commercial and Office District.

Do I have anybody here for 2644 Cherokee Street? Mr. Torres? Mr. Torres, are you there?

There he is. Good morning.

Hello? Hi, can I get your name and a mailing address for our records?

Okay. My name is Ralph Torres. Mailing address is 8507 Matilda Avenue, St. Louis, Missouri, 63123.

You want to explain what you're doing?

Ma'am, I want to open up a convenience mart at 2644 Cherokee Street. And basically, the store inventory categories that I had that we're going to be selling under beverages, it would be soda, bottled water, energy drink, juices, iced tea, exotics, milk, et cetera. We're going to be selling snacks out of there. exotic chips, candy, cookies, protein bars, beef jerky, mints, ice cream. And we're going to be selling household items out of there like toilet paper, paper towels, foil, candy, incense, bags of ice. Health and beauty, we're going to do over-the-counter medicine, toothpaste, deodorant, shampoo, hand sanitizer, perfume, phone chargers, cable, batteries. We also want to do some tobacco products like cigars, hookah, accessories, papers, et cetera. And we also wanna do some automotive supplies, oil, tire gauges, WD-40, electrical tape, windshield washer fluid, antifreeze, et cetera. We also want to coordinate, we looked into it, a pickup for a package pickup service with Amazon. FedEx and UPS where they drop the packages off there. And then for the people that live in the area, a lot of them have like work-live spaces and really have nowhere to go when packages are dropped off. They'd be able to pick them up at our location.

Okay. How big is your store?

I believe it's approximately, they measured it, I think it was like 1,400 square foot, he said.

Okay. Okay. Are you going to serve any alcohol?

No, ma'am. That wasn't in the initial application. We're not going to do no alcohol. We're not going to do no THCA products, no CBD, no Delta 8. We're not going to do any sex products. And we're also not going to do any type of gambling machines or anything like that.

Okay. Are you going to do any cooking? Are you going to have any hot food?

No, ma'am.

Do you have an ATM or vending machine outside the store?

No, ma'am.

Okay. Will there be other uses in the store besides a convenience store, such as cell phone kiosks or anything like that?

No, we have minor accessories, like people come in late at night, they're looking for like a You know, a cable for iPhone or something like that, you know, or charger, right. There's a, there's actually a, there's actually a phone store across the street from us, my caddy corner, but I believe they're only open until like six or 7. PM. And once we have a walk in later on in the evening, they can pick up, pick up something for, from us, but we're not trying to impede on their business.

So you're not actually selling cell phones?

No, ma'am. No, not at all.

Okay. What are your hours of operation going to be?

Well, we initially wanted to do like 8 a.m. to midnight and then see how it goes. If it doesn't work out, then we'll close earlier or we'll open up later, depending upon, you know, what time.

Is that seven days a week?

Yes, ma'am.

How many employees do you anticipate having?

And we anticipate hiring full-time employees and two part-time employees minimum. Probably going to staff up to probably seven people.

Okay. And how many people will work for a shift?

Would be two, ma'am.

Okay.

Always two. Store's too big. One person couldn't handle it.

Okay. Do you have any parking spaces?

I believe there's general parking in front of the building. And I believe in behind the building, back in the alleyway, I do believe there's public parking back there.

Okay. Do you have an area for shipping and receiving that's not blocking traffic?

Well, they can pull around. Like if we had something from like Amazon or UPS, we would take that with them. They could pull up into parking. I mean, in the alleyway in the back. unload whatever items they have, because we're only going to be doing smaller packages, not moving couches or anything like that, or big screen TVs, and that we can offload it relatively quick, get it in the building, two, three minutes later, they're gone. Okay. And it wouldn't impede no traffic there in the alleyway, because that area right there is so wide, you can go right around it.

Okay. Are you going to have exterior lighting and surveillance cameras?

Yeah, there was initially when we purchased the building, there was 24 cameras already there on location. So they're already active now.

Will you make the videos available to law enforcement if needed?

Yes, ma'am.

Okay. Do you have access to a commercial dumpster?

We have one there already. Okay.

So I'm going to read to you, you said you're going to sell tobacco, right? I'm going to read to you a condition. It's the drug paraphernalia condition. And if you want to sell any of these items, now is the time to talk about it, okay? Okay. There shall be no sale of items that can be used or are intended for use as drug paraphernalia as defined in Ordinance 68404 or its successor ordinances, including but not limited to food scales, glass tubes, disposable lighters with pop-off tops, steel scrubbing pads and screens, rolling paper, ephedrine or pseudoephedrine, diet supplements, sleep aids, bath salts, or other substitutes for illegal drugs. In addition, there shall be no sale of cigars or cigarillos commonly used or adapted for use involving a controlled substance, examples of which include but are not limited to the following, Phillies, Dutch Masters, White Owl, Swisher Sweets, Splitter Rillos, Backwoods, Optima, or Garcia Vega. Do you want to sell any of those items, sir?

Yes, we do.

All right. What are you talking about selling?

The Rillos, sure. Cigars. The papers, rolling papers.

So we don't allow rolling papers?

You don't allow rolling papers?

No. And the cigars and cigarillos have to be in the original packaging only.

Okay. We can sell nicotine products too, right?

Yes. As long as everything's in the original packaging, not selling them by themselves, not individuals.

Okay. Well, we, Like I'm talking about vapes, ma'am. You know how people smoke those nicotine vapes?

Yes, you can sell vapes. Right. We have a problem sometimes with THC vapes, as long as they're not the THC vapes.

No, ma'am. We never put that in our application. Okay. So what was the other, the glass tubes?

Yeah, those are for, people use them for smoking drugs. Glass tubes, like they use them as a,

So you can't sell any glass handpipes is what you're telling me.

Yes. It's a glass tubes. They usually put roses in.

Okay. Those straight shooter pipes. Is that what you're specifically talking about?

I don't know if that's what they're called, but yes.

Okay. The roses. Oh, we won't sell any roses.

And. Is that it?

What was that with the over-the-counter medication?

Like you can't sell NyQuil in single doses. We've had problems with that before where people will break up the NyQuil and sell it by the single dose.

Okay, I'm not familiar with that at all.

And cough syrup by the single dose.

What do you mean single dose?

Where it's broken up and put into... Where it's opened up and put into plastic containers with lids on it and sold as a single dose that people use for mixing other drugs with it.

Okay. I never even heard about that. Yeah, it's a problem. So let's say... Let's say I wanted to sell NyQuil, right, and I sell the whole bottle over to Cali, like when I go to Walgreens. If I buy something for my son or my daughter, they need NyQuil, I go in there, I buy a whole bottle. I can sell bottles of that, correct?

NyQuil is not allowed to be sold, no. It's considered drug paraphernalia. Any kind of sleep aid. Okay, okay. It can be used for drug paraphernalia. Okay. Anything like, go ahead.

No, no. Okay. I got you. Can you, can you send me a list of all of that?

You can call me, you can go on the, actually the Missouri, or you can just call me after this meeting, maybe about 10 o'clock today. I'll give you a phone number to call me at and we can go over it more. Okay. Are you ready? Yeah. Yeah.

Um, let me find. Okay. Go ahead. What's your number?

6 2 2 3 6 6 6 2 3 6 2 6 3 6 6 6. Sandy got it. Okay. And then we can talk about all the off the record here.

Yeah, because I want to make sure we're clear on everything, not that we make any type of mistake, right? I understand.

Okay, we're going to move on. Go ahead.

So I'm done now?

No, we're going to move on to the next question. Will you install signs outside new signage?

No.

Well, if you do, you need to get anything that advertises your store, you need to get a building permit, sir. Okay? Needs to be permitted through the city.

Right.

Any, like, clings you put in the window, that's considered signs.

Okay. No, I might have a mannequin in the window.

Mannequin?

Yeah, a couple mannequins. That might be. They're stand-alones.

I think those are art. Okay, so we have a letter of support from your alderman and we have a letter of support from Bradboy Park Neighborhood.

Okay. I needed it.

Yes. I'm going to ask you a couple questions we ask everybody. Will the use be detrimental to public health, safety, morals, or general welfare?

If I'll do what, ma'am? I'm sorry.

That's okay. I understand. Will the use be detrimental to the public health, safety, morals, or general welfare?

No, no. I think it would be a big upside for the public and for the residents in the area.

Okay, and I got another question we ask everybody. Will the use cause serious injury to the neighboring property by hindering use or reducing our impairment property values?

No. No.

Okay. Is there anything else you'd like to add?

No, that'll be all.

Okay. Well, you have a good day, sir. Is there anybody on the line in support of this application that would like to speak? I got David Steele raised his hands. Yes. Good morning. Can I get a name and mailing address for you, please?

Sure. David Steele, Legislative Assistant to Seventh Ward Alderwoman Alicia Sanye and 1200 Market Street, Room 230.

What would you like to add, sir?

Yes, so I apologize. Alderwoman Sanye did have intention to come speak. She's being held up right now in another meeting. But I did want to refer to Alderman Sonia's letter of support that it is conditioned based on Mr. Torres' discussion with both the Neighborhood Association as well as the Cherokee Sid that he has guaranteed that there would not be any sale of alcohol, any tobacco products. nor any Delta 8, Delta 9, and any drug paraphernalia. And he's also clearly stated there will not be any gaming machines, nor adult themed toys and items. And so I came into conversation, I think, when he expressed confusion about selling rolling papers or cigars and things like that. That was not the understanding when he explained that to the neighborhood association as well as Sid, he focused on the target audience, being folks that want car cleaning items as well as just snacks from different countries. And so if if this becomes just a typical convenience store. uh that that is not uh understanding that he had shared with folks so in terms of the condition use if that is something that is clearly stated no alcohol or any tobacco products uh that that is something that i know all the women signing wanted to uplift okay call him back and ask about the tobacco products thank you thank you mr stewart ralph mr torres are you still on the line

Hello. Hi, Mr. Torres. So the neighborhood association, the neighborhood association said you presented no tobacco that you were not going to sell tobacco. Do you want to talk about that?

I think the original consensus was when I spoke to my team after the meeting, right. We felt that if we needed to incorporate tobacco products. down the road, rolling tobacco and so forth, that we would do so. We are gonna do everything that we stated as far as all the other items are concerned for that war of concern, right?

So if you really- If you really want to sell tobacco products, I suggest we continue this hearing and you go back and meet with the Neighborhood Association again, because their agreement with you was that you weren't going to sell tobacco products. That includes vapes.

Okay, ma'am. We'll just move on. We'll just shutter the project and we'll just move on to the next one. Thank you for your time. Thank you, sir. you, ma'am. Thank you. Have a great day.

Okay. Is there anybody else in support of this application that would like to speak? Is there anybody opposed to this application that would like to speak? Okay, we'll call this hearing heard. Thank you. Deborah, will you read the next case, please? Yes.

Excuse me. Yes. ALP 1363626, 3160 Morgan Ford Road, Ward 6, Zone F, Neighborhood Commercial District.

Do I have anybody here for 3160 Morgan Ford?

Yes, ma'am. My name is Samir Sajid.

Can I get a mailing address for you, please?

Mailing address is 415 Emmanuel Court, E-M-M-A-N-U-L, Emmanuel Court, Valley Fork, Missouri, 63108.

Do you want to explain what you're doing here?

Yes, ma'am. So I'm here. It's a convenience store with cooking and full liquor. It's a 7-Eleven convenience store. That is my late brother's store. He passed away on December 6th, December 7th. I apologize. And I'm his successor.

Okay.

And I'm running the business as he wanted before. And we apply for... And they're... New businesses was Apache Food Store now is under my corporation is PD Food Mart Inc. And that will be 7-Eleven convenience store as I said, we're selling this convenience store with hot food, cooking and full liquor package.

Okay. Let's see, how large is the building?

Excuse me?

How large is the building?

The building is, I think, about, if I don't make a mistake, 2,500 square feet. Okay.

And you just sell typical 7-Eleven items in there? Yes, ma'am. Are you selling liquor?

Yes, ma'am.

Have you applied for your liquor license? No.

I know he's not selling liquor right now, but he has to apply for liquor license.

Make sure you apply for your liquor license. What types of food do you sell?

We are selling the hot food like taquitos, hot dog, wings, chicken burger, fresh foods.

Will you be able to consume food on site? Do you have any tables?

Well, no.

No tables, okay. Nothing outside for seating?

No.

We have an ATM or vending machine outside?

We have an ATM inside the store.

Inside, okay.

Yes.

Will there be other uses inside the building besides the convenience store?

No.

Okay. What are your days and hours of operation?

The hour of the operation from 6 a.m. until 12 a.m. Is that seven days a week? Yes, ma'am.

How many employees will you have?

Probably between three, depends on the business, three to six. Okay.

And how many per shift?

Right now, we have one per shift, but it says under my brother's, but once the business basically, it will be one per, one second shift is two people, first shift is one, so depends on hours and rations. Because you have two people, and if it's slow, mostly, probably one person.

Okay. How many parking spaces do you have?

Parking space probably about 16, between 16 or 18.

Do you have an area for shipping and receiving that doesn't block traffic?

Yes, ma'am.

Okay. Do you have exterior lighting and surveillance cameras installed?

Yes, ma'am.

Will you make them available to law enforcement?

Absolutely.

Do you have a commercial dumpster?

Yes, ma'am.

Are you going to sell tobacco products?

Yes, ma'am.

Okay. Okay, I'm going to read you the drug paraphernalia condition, and now's the time to talk about it if you want to sell any of these products, okay?

Okay.

There shall be no sale of items that can be used or are intended for use as drug paraphernalia as defined in Ordinance 68404 or its successor ordinances, including but not limited to food scales, glass tubes, disposable lighters with pop-off tops, steel scrubbing pads and screens, rolling papers, ephedrine or pseudoephedrine, diet supplements, sleep aids, bath salts, or other substitutes for illegal drugs. In addition, there shall be no sale of cigars or cigarillos commonly used or adapted for use involving a controlled substance, examples of which include but are not limited to the following, Phillies, Dutch Masters, White Owl, Swisher Sweets, Splitterillos, Backwoods, Optima, or Garcia Vega. Do you want to sell any of these items?

Well, we're selling it. Yes, we do selling it. So Swisher and Dutch, Blackwell Miles.

Is there an original packaging in that?

Yes, there are original packaging. Yes, ma'am.

Okay. Are you going to install any new signs?

New signs? No.

Well, if you do, just get a permit from the city, okay?

Yes, ma'am.

Have you reached out to your alderwoman or neighborhood association for their support?

Yes, I sent them an email and I told them this is explaining this to my late brother's store and then as a successor. And they say they will not doing the layoff support anymore for any businesses, but they didn't say anything against the business as well.

Okay. I have a couple of letters I'm looking at here. Okay. I have two letters in opposition to you. One is from a resident. They're both from residents that don't want you to continue the convenience store there. I can send you a copy of these if you like.

Okay. Sure. Yes.

Okay. Yeah. I'll email them to you. One's from the next door neighbor and one's from a resident of the sixth ward. Okay, so these are questions we ask everybody. Will the use be detrimental to the public health, safety, morals, or general welfare?

No.

Will the use cause serious injury to the neighboring property by hindering use or reducing our apparent property values?

No.

Is there anything else you'd like to add?

So one thing is just like I would like to mention is I have a store also in graduation base. I'm a board member for CID and I'm supportive of the neighborhood. I never do anything to do anything at my premises to upset or disrespectful to neighborhood or anything to legally to break the law. So just.

Okay.

How will you handle laundering on your property?

Laundering, ma'am, we have a signage. And usually, to be honest, if you come many times, we don't have any laundering here. If anybody's here, we always tell them to leave. We make sure there's no open containers, alcohol, anything is anything in our premises. We got a signage over on my windows. So... There are no laundering at all at my premise.

Did I ask some of the questions? OK. Well, thank you very much, sir, for your testimony.

My pleasure. Thank you.

Is there anybody here in support of this application that would like to speak? Is there anybody opposed to this application that would like to speak? I have Justin, Sophia. Will you state your name and your address for the record?

Yes. Hello, everybody. My name is Justin Sophia and I live at 3172 Morgan Ford Road.

What would you like to add, sir?

So I would like to say that Because I'd like to start by saying that because of where I live, which is immediately adjacent to the 7-Eleven property, I perhaps am more qualified to speak on the impact of the store on surrounding properties than most others. And I will start by saying that I also don't believe that a liquor license was what was previously present at this property before the unfortunate passing of the previous owner. I believe it was only beer and wine, so I worry that a liquor license would be a change from before. But yeah, so my biggest concern is that this location has a history of creating a neighborhood nuisance and safety concerns, which would detrimentally impact neighbors in terms of their ability to use their property and impact property values in the area as well without adding value to the area. I have lived here since before alcohol sales ceased at this location for, again, the unfortunate passing of the previous owner. And I have lived there since. And so I've seen a before and after of the impact on the neighborhood when the sales were allowed and after. And I will say that since the sales of alcohol and food have stopped at this location, things have improved dramatically. Before, there would be cars that would play extremely loud music and would congregate in the parking lot at least 20 to 30 times a day, which was a constant, unrelenting nuisance that interfered with our ability to sleep, study, focus, rest, and otherwise sleep. enjoy property. And if I'm experiencing these issues, several neighbors are as well. I also there have been multiple violent altercations and crimes that have occurred at this location, which create a safety risk. In fact, I have video evidence of an altercation that occurred on October 8th of 2025. during the day in which one of the store employees was violently assaulted in the parking lot by a customer, which creates a safety issue not just for residents, but for the employees of the establishment as well. Another occasion, I saw a large fight between two groups, about a dozen people, where I witnessed an individual brandish a firearm. Thankfully, that was not used, and nobody seemed to be seriously injured. Additionally, individuals routinely will sit on the curb that's adjacent to our property, drinking alcohol and eating cooked food from the store, resulting in litter. And since the alcohol and food sales have stopped, these loud music incidents have dropped significantly. There's only a few per day. There have been no fights. I've not seen any loitering or litter. And the store has remained a busy, viable business without these nuisances. And as I said before, this application is for full liquor, which is a broader license than what produced these problems before. So there's every reason to believe that these exact same problems will return and at a worse level than before. Separately from these incidents I've described above, there was also a serious robbery that happened at the store within the past year. Serious enough that a 24-7 security camera was installed at the property directly below my balcony, like within several feet from my patio chairs. that remained for months. It has since been removed, but this illustrates that the location already carried a meaningful security risk back when it only sold beer and wine and food. And that has already resulted in a need for 24-7 surveillance equipment. And so adding full liquor sales at this store with this history raises serious concerns about the safety and privacy for adjacent residents. Now, for me and my wife who live here, we're both health care workers. We're planning to have a child. And with the level of noise that this establishment creates and the level of nuisance that it creates when there was alcohol sold is not something that we want to deal with. I have no grudges against an individual who wants to make a living in a business, but it has really been a huge negative impact on our ability to to enjoy our property in peace. And furthermore, there's no real community need. Within a few blocks of this store, there's already alcohol that you can buy at the ZX gas station on Morgan Ford just a few blocks down the road. There's Gustine Market less than a mile away. There's Local Harvest that's two blocks north. And then there's Quick Trips on both Kings Highway and Graveaway, both within a mile. liquor can be purchased at schnooks on arsenal which is just a two to three minute drive away there's a ton of food available here in this stretch of morgan ford already and so i think this application doesn't fulfill a gap in the neighborhood and instead it just reintroduces a documented nuisance and safety and security concerns just to duplicate kind of what already exists so I ask, my request would be that the board denies this application in full, including both cooking and liquor components, given the documented history of nuisance and security concerns and lack of value add to the neighborhood. And yeah, that would be my statement.

Okay, thank you.

Thank you.

Is there anybody else in opposition to this application that would like to speak?

Can I speak, ma'am, myself right now?

We're going to take opposition still, and then I'll call you back up, okay? Is there anybody else in opposition to this application that wants to speak? Okay, Mr. Saeed, do you want to come back up and address his concerns?

Yes, ma'am. So thank you very much first for your time and explain everything that you're concerning. And for the record, as the loud music and the vehicle is not because of we selling a liquor in that premises, it was because a lot of the restaurants around the neighborhood here and they was parking their vehicle in our premises. And since we taking basically tell them to do not park, if you park your vehicle, your car will be towed. That's why it get decreased. The second thing you're talking about, the hot food, the hot food sale has never stopped. We still be selling hot food. The hot food is not causing any issues. The third thing you mentioned about the liquor is this store had a full package liquor in the past. You can check what is city of St. Louis. They have a record of it. And just, I do as a successor, what I'm supposed to basically running the business. They used to be. And, uh, The concern about loud music, that's why we close the store after 12 and we always at the stores and to make sure it's not causing any issues. You mentioned about there's issues before the robbery. Yes, it was last year. They're breaking the ATM machine. It was not just in that location. This was all over. the countries and the guys that did that with, because all with the surveillance system we have in this or another store, the guys got caught it and they brought them to justice. So I'm just like, and other things, I'm running it as a business owner. I have a store as just like in Graves and Bates and then this will be, this is my successor for my running that stores in my brother's store to make sure support is. and families after he's gone and take care of my families. And for that, if there's any part, if it's causing issues, please give us a chance, see how we do, and go from there. A lot of issues, again, it was the past, prior my brother was become a franchisee in 2022, and he's reduced a lot of it. And when I took over, I pay more, I'm more focused, paying a lot of energy. Every day I am here at the store between seven to eight hours. to make sure we reduce these challenges and issues and be supportive in the neighborhood. And this is something, when we talk about the sales, when we lost the liquor sale as a store, the sale is up to 42% is down, even not supporting the payrolls, the employees. And as me, I'm trying to run the business because it's the love of my brother and his legacy. And he used to, that's why, and to make sure be taking care of their families. And that's why I'm here. And just, again, we had a full liquor before. It's not beer and wine. And that's what we do. And also we never stopped selling hot food. The parking lot issue is not ours. It's around the restaurant, around the store. Some of them, they park in our premises because they don't have a parking in the street. That's why they do it here. And thank you very much. I hope you guys understand. where I'm coming from and what's my goal. And if you would want it, I can give you my cell phone number. You can feel free contact anytime and any issues and just give us a time, see how we do. And if some, then we go from there. Thanks very much.

Thank you. Thank you. Okay. We'll call this hearing heard. Thank you. Deborah, will you please read the next case?

Yeah. ALP 13663-26, 5715 Gravel Avenue, 42, Zone F, Neighborhood Commercial District. Thank you, Deborah. You're welcome.

Is there anyone here to represent this application this morning?

Yes. My name is Sharan McGee.

Good morning, Ms. McGee. Can you please state your name again and your address for the record?

Sharron McGee, 5715 Gravois.

And how big will your space for the shop be?

It's only 600 square feet.

And what types of items will you sell?

We will be selling Pokemon cards, trading cards, like retail clothing, like t-shirts, hats, apparel of that matter. Um, we will be selling vapes. Um, she did mention like rolling papers and stuff like that. We wouldn't be selling anything like that. Um, it would be, um, mostly just like vapes or, um, like snacks, candy juices and things like that.

Thank you. And where will you get your inventory from?

The wholesale manufacturer.

Will you be accepting donations?

Accepting donations? No.

Okay. Will you bring items into the store that need repair work or will you sell items as is?

Yeah, no. No repair work or anything like that.

And you mentioned some different smoking accessories. What types will you sell?

Just vapes, swishers, and, well, we can't sell rolling papers or anything like that, no. Or we won't do any, like, THC or Delta-8 or any type of paraphernalia or anything like that either. No gambling machines, no alcohol, nothing of that matter.

Okay. Thank you. I am going to read this drug paraphernalia condition, and then you just let us know if there's anything else that maybe you've missed in these previous questions that you'd like to tell us about. So there shall be no sale of items that can be used or are intended for use as drug paraphernalia. as defined in Ordinance 68404 or its successor ordinances, including but not limited to food scales, glass tubes, disposable lighters, pop-off tops, steel scrubbing pads and screens, rolling papers, ephedrine or pseudoephedrine, diet supplements, sleep aids, bath salts, or other substitutes for illegal drugs. In addition, there shall be no sale of cigars or cigarillos commonly used or adapted for use involving a controlled substance examples of which include but are not limited to the following Phillies, Dutch Masters, White Owl, Fisher Swedes, Splitterillos, Backwoods, Optimo, and Garcia y Vega. You won't have any of those items that we haven't already discussed?

No.

Thank you. Have you done resell before?

Yes.

Did you own a resale shop prior to applying for this one?

Yes, I did. It was the same store. It was called The Bodega. It was downtown St. Louis. And then I was part owner of one in North County.

Thank you. What days and hours will you operate?

It would be Tuesday through Saturday, 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. We will have one, well, the store is very small, so it'll probably only be one or two employees working. We'll probably staff four.

Okay. And where will your employees park?

We have street parking. And then in the back, we have private parking. It's like a little park, like driveway that we have in the back.

Okay. Okay.

And we have a trash can in the back also.

Thank you. How many entrances and exits does the building have?

One.

Sounds like you have the alley space for shipping and receiving. Is that right?

Yes.

And you do have a commercial dumpster?

Yes.

Will you display items for sale outside in front of the store?

No.

Okay. And will you be posting any new signage on the outside of the building? No.

Okay.

Well, if you change your mind, you do need to apply for a sign permit here with the zoning section in the building division.

Okay.

Have you reached out to your neighborhood association or your older person for their support?

I reached out to, I've sent an email to the neighborhood association. I actually spoke to one of the people there.

um there they had a concern about selling alcohol i let them know i wasn't selling any alcohol or gambling or anything like that so they said it shouldn't be a problem okay thank you and so these next two questions are questions that we ask everyone will the use be detrimental to the public health safety morals or general welfare no and will be used cause serious injury to the neighboring property by hindering use or reducing or impairing property values?

No.

Is there anything else that you want to add?

Yes. I spoke to some neighbors and things like that. We will be open to hosting any community meetings for stores or any residents or anything like that. And then we also would be doing, having like... Pokemon events to where people can come in and like play the actual trading, trading game. Like it's, they have a, like the Pokemon game that they play with the cards. So we're actually trying to connect with the schools in the area to have like afterschool programs to where kids can come and learn the Pokemon trading card game and get into collecting and things like that. So it's, you know, helping, helping support the community and, you know, keeping kids out of the streets and having fun.

Thank you. Is there anyone here in support of this application? Is there anyone here opposed to this application? Hearing none, we will call this hearing heard. Deborah, can you read the next item, please?

Yeah.

Do I have to stay online or can I get off now?

Yes, you can.

Okay.

Thank you. Good day, sir. Thank you.

All right.

Bye-bye. ALP 1365526, 3221 Ivanhoe Avenue, Ward 4, zone F, neighborhood commercial district.

And is there anyone here to represent this application?

Yes, there is. This is Steven Lindeman.

Good morning, Mr. Lindeman.

Good morning.

Can you provide your address for the record?

3221 Ivanhoe Avenue.

Thank you. How big will your restaurant be?

800 usable square feet.

Okay. And approximately how many people do you think that it'll hold?

Fire marshal and building inspector designated us between 42 and 46.

Okay. And the seating capacity?

I guess that's what I was referencing.

Okay. How many employees do you think you'll have?

It's going to be a family-run business with my wife and myself.

Okay. Will you have enough off-street parking spaces for your employees and your customers, and roughly how many do you think you'll have?

We do. We have two, adding a third behind the building, and we have designated on-street parking as well.

What days and hours will you operate?

We're hoping to operate five days a week, potentially from Wednesday to Sunday.

What do you think the hours will look like approximately?

Seven to seven is the projected hours with the potential of maybe seven to nine on select evenings.

Thank you. And what types of food will you serve?

We're going to have fresh pastries in the morning, no cooked items or heated items. We will have a small market. with grab-and-go snacks in the back of the store.

Okay. So there won't be any liquor sales?

We do have a 22% that is waiting approval from Excise. We have over 60-plus approval signatures from the surrounding neighborhood, business support, but it is 22%. It's effectively just pouring wine in the evening hours. Daytime operations is a coffee.

Okay. Do you have a commercial dumpster?

We do.

Will there be a loading area for receiving goods out of the public right-of-way?

There will be. There's an option in the back for a pull-in as well as alley easement.

Thank you.

Are you doing any structural alterations to the restaurant?

Nope. It will exist as it stands.

How about signage?

Signage will exist as it currently is.

So you previously had a sign permit or?

No, there was signage installed by the building owner. There isn't any additional fascia signage or hanging signage.

Okay. Well, even like a window stick on or something like that, if you could get a sign permit for that, that would be required.

Understood.

How many exits will the restaurant have?

It will have two with designated exit and emergency signs above both.

And will the restaurant be accessible to people that would qualify under the Americans with Disabilities Act?

Yes, everything about the building with easement, egress, restroom is all ADA.

Will there be outdoor seating?

There is written into the designation roughly 400 square feet, but it actually would be three bistro tables for patrons waiting for their beverage orders.

And will those be on the sidewalk?

They will be in the front, yes.

Okay.

For that, you may need an encroachment permit from the Board of Public Service. I just want to let you know about that.

Yeah, I believe we have that process underway, but I will do my diligence and check back into it.

Great. Will there be a walk-up window or a drive-through at all?

There will not.

And have you had any health or safety inspections done yet?

Yes, everything has been performed and is passed.

Great. Have you reached out to the Alderman or Neighborhood Association?

We have. There is an existing business there that we're in partnership with that has sat in on board meetings with the Neighborhood Association and obtained their approval. And I've been in correspondence with Alderman Brett Narayan about the business. And we're in email correspondence, which I can furnish a letter of approval if necessary.

I'm listening to him.

We're going to write an email in chat. If you want to put it in the chat or you can email it.

Okay, I will reach back out to him and see what his convenience is. I'm getting that back to me.

It has to be by the end of this meeting if you take it.

Okay, well then I won't have one to furnish, but we are in communication about it.

Thank you. Thanks. And so, like I said before, these next two questions are just questions that we ask everybody. Sure. Will the use be detrimental to public health, safety, morals, or general welfare?

No, it will not.

And will the use cause serious injury to the neighboring property by hindering use or reducing or comparing property values?

Certainly not.

Is there anything else that you want to add?

Nope. We just have a swell of support from the neighborhood. Everybody's eager to be able to have a place where they can get their conveniences within walkable distance to the Lindenwood Park neighborhood.

All right. Well, thank you for all that information, Mr. Lindenwood. Is there anyone else here in support of the application?

Hi, good morning. I'm Tom Doyle. I'm just a resident of Ward 4, and I'm in support of Cafe Lindy's.

Okay. Thank you, Mr. Doyle. Mail-in address. What? Mail-in address. I apologize. Can I get your mail-in address?

Sure. 6620 Marquette Avenue, St. Louis, Missouri, 63139. Thank you.

You're welcome. Anyone else? Okay, is there anyone here that is opposed to this application? Seeing none, we'll call this item heard.

Deborah, will you please read the first one that we skipped over?

Yes. AOP 13310-26 6831 Manchester Avenue, Suite 100, Ward 4, Zone J, Industry District.

Do I have anybody here for 6831 Manchester Avenue, Suite 100? Chandra Carter, are you here? If you're on a cell phone, it's star six to mute and unmute. There she is. Hi, Chandra. We're not hearing you.

Can you hear me now?

I can now, yes. OK, sorry about that. I don't know what's going on. That's OK. Will you give me your name and a mailing address, please?

Yes, Chandra Carter, Melanedra is 131 Brigadine Circle, St. Louis, Missouri, 63137. Okay.

Do you want to explain what you're doing?

Yes. So right now at the moment, I have an in-home childcare. I'm state licensed, but I want to expand. So I found this building over on Manchester. and I just feel like it's the perfect fit for me to grow.

Okay. What's the age range of the children you plan to keep?

Six weeks to 12 year olds. And how many children? 20 children. 20 children, okay.

Is this building big enough to accommodate the 20 children?

Yes, I think it's bigger to accommodate more, but I was just going with 20 because the previous lease owner, she was a daycare owner there for 20 years, and I guess she recently just retired. Basically, she was licensed with 20 children, so I was just going to go with that.

Okay. How will you separate the children by ages?

Rooms. Well, I can't necessarily say rooms, but I would set it up for classroom materials like table chairs, bookstands, and things like that. And also the nursery is away from the other kids or the babies. They have their own room.

Okay. What types of activities will the children do?

They will have curriculum or... Reading mail, outdoor play, um, things like that.

How many employees do you, will you have?

Um, so it is, it is one, one employee to four, the five children. So I'm thinking about, uh, four to five employees, um, even more because I wanted to do, um, 6.00 AM to 12.00 AM Monday to Friday. Okay.

Are you going to provide meals? Yes, ma'am. Do you have a commercial kitchen, or will you have them catered? Will you just heat it up?

Heat it up. No cooking. Okay. Just heating food up? Yes, ma'am. Will you provide transfer?

Go ahead. I'm sorry. Go ahead. That's okay. You can finish.

No, I was going to. I also was going to say, I wanted, I was going to get with this program that deliver children's food and things like that where I can just warm it up.

Okay. Are you going to provide transportation? Yes. How will you provide it?

I have a, right now at the moment I have a daycare van. Okay. But once I, once I grow and my business grow, then I can get bigger.

transportation, like more. Where will you be storing the daycare van at? Right now, I'm storing it in my home. Okay, it has to be off the street. It can't be parked on the street.

Oh, no, we have, it's a back, to the back of the daycare, it's a parking lot.

Okay.

And then also it's on a, it's a side parking lot as well.

Okay.

So it's two parking lots. Will the children have an area to play outside? Yes. Is it fenced in? Yes. Okay. Where is the main entrance of the daycare at? The back. Back. Okay. How many exits do you have in all? Two, right and back. Do you have a handicap accessible exit? Yes. Do you have access to a commercial dumpster?

Yes. Okay. It's really, it's two of them. So it's one, so it's two of them. It's one down there because you got to go through the alley to get to the, to get to the entrance of the daycare because as you guys know, Manchester is a very busy street. So you enter through the back. That's the main way. But back there, you got to go through the alley. So it's two dumpsters out there.

Okay. Are they city dumpsters or are they commercial dumpsters?

Well, the owner who I'm leasing the building from, he pays for one of the dumpsters.

Okay.

So one of them is city and one of them is private.

Okay. Businesses can't use city services unless they're paying for them. Okay.

Okay.

Are you going to post any signs on or around the building? Yes. Okay, make sure you get them permitted through the zoning office, okay, through the city. Yes, ma'am. Have you completed any of your health and safety inspections yet? Yes. Okay. Okay, have you reached out to your alderman or neighborhood association? Yes, I think I have.

I think I have done everything that I'm supposed to do, you know, This is my first time ever going through something like this, so I'm learning as I go. So I think I have done everything that I'm supposed to be. I think this is the last thing that I have to do.

Okay. Okay. So these are questions we ask everybody, okay? Will the use be detrimental to the public health, safety, morals, or general welfare? No. Will the use cause serious injury to the neighboring property by hindering use or reducing our apparent property values? Yes. No. Is there anything else you'd like to add?

I just feel like bringing a daycare center to the community would be a great fit due to the fact that it's a lot of families that live around there that need child care. Because like before, like I said, the lady that used to own it before me, she like, She had daycare parents. They basically, they were sad about the daycare clothing because that was basically like the only daycare around here. So I really believe that it would be a great fit for the community.

Thank you very much. Is there anybody on the line in support of this application that would like to speak? Is there anybody opposed to this application that would like to speak? Okay, we'll call this hearing heard. Thank you, everybody. Have a good day. Thank you. You have a great day as well. Bye, everyone. Have a good day.