County Commission - Regular Meeting

We should be live.

Okay, we've gone live where we're on line live and we're also recording it and we've I also have a couple of items come up, nothing controversial. We've been discussing basically the increased cost of materials on roads and projects that the county engineer has requested some paperwork action and put these on the items for approval on Tuesday, which would be the favoring request from the county superintendent of St. Clair County Board of Education. And that's about as far as we've gotten now. Okay, any other questions for close?

So we know if you see a triaxial load of gravel, our cost is 800 dollars.

Yeah, that's right. You know what to put on there. That's the end of my report. You know what? It may be cheaper just to get 1 of us back and give it to the county. You off Monday.

yes i'm off friday but it remains to see whether it remains to see whether i'll be here or not though you can let you do let me know what day and time sit up with us

We ought to be on four eights next week.

We will. 6 to 2.30 Tuesday through Friday.

Okay.

Anything else?

You did a great job. Thank you so very much. You're welcome. Okay. Rodney Wolfe, property manager, updates and property project manager. You have got that building out there at the road department just about done. I just want to say that's a great job to have there.

I knew he was going to ask about Spire, so I contacted him Monday.

I have not heard back from him. I halfway heard back from him. I asked him what the update on it was. He sent me a message back and said, well, let me check to see if it had been paid. And I said, well, as far as I know, it has been paid. The check was already issued. I said, but let me know if you don't see it paid so I can double check. And well, he finally emailed me back later on that afternoon and said, confirmed it. It had been paid.

That's when I said I wasn't going to sign until it looked by a bin.

Now I know why they put it up on their product.

They backfill with gravel.

Yeah, that's right. He confirmed it had been paid, and he said he'd let me know as soon as he got with the engineer of when they was actually going to start it. So that's the update on spire gas. All the rest of them are in and we're just waiting on which we had our little pre-bid thing and that went well. Had one question and I sent Susie the information on it and she was going to email it back out to them so they all understood what they wasn't going to be tearing the building down. They were just getting the generator out and the tank. So we got that handled. Other thing, as far as... You're talking about the bid.

Generator bid.

In the documentation of it, a couple of the guys thought they were going to have to tear the block building down.

I'll move that generator down.

That's what I've told them at least. But they still got to get the generator out and load it on our truck. While they're set up with their crane, they're going to set that generator on our truck.

And the fuel tank.

And we've got to empty that fuel tank.

Yes, I'm sure. They moved it a few years ago and they let it run out.

How much are you going to let it have? I don't know. I have no idea. I mean, when's the last time they failed to do it?

That'd be a Freddie question.

We the ones that do it, huh?

Well, Freddie always calls whenever it's... Freddie, I think, coordinates that.

Couldn't you pump that off in our service truck and use it? That's one of the things I'm asking.

Yeah, we'll just have to do that when we coordinate with the switchover.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, you want us to get the diesel out of the tank?

Not right now. You'll have to be there that day when they go and do a switchover and have it pump that diesel out, plus have a load boy there, a truck load boy there, for them to load the old generator on and the tank on.

I'll let you know all that, Clay. I'll let you know. We ain't got to be at 10 yet.

put it in. So the is there a roof on top of it?

No, no, no, it's over there. Okay. Plus, y'all gonna be tearing that block building and cleaning it up.

So like I said, maniacs will have to be down there for a day or two.

Snatch that block, man.

A little small X in the end and one of your skid steers will clean it up probably.

Pretty quick.

Yeah. Okay.

You can load out on that other corner lot where it's graveled.

be nothing to it yeah it'd be easy to get into into that side and this is happening before we need to pay these open cut no yeah you don't need to pay them yet that'd be one of the last things you do when you get all that done okay still got a little more digging to do yeah because you you can pack some stuff in the cut they do gas people do now whenever they do the electrical part of it

They've got to trench a 30-foot trough over to the generator.

And then they'll backfill it. And then we'll do our paving. But that's way down the road. Well, we can drive on the backfill. Yeah, I can weigh down.

It's not this way. We'll coordinate the alleyway about the same time, the paving portion. Yeah. The coordinator's alleyway. Yeah, I think so.

Well, y'all thank you. My guess would be after that building is in place that we would ask you to come in and do the apron. We can drive on the backfield trench.

Just put some more sand in it or something. The contractors for either the gas or the electrician is going to put the crusher run in and all like that.

They already done it.

Yeah, it's good.

There's cross electrical do the same thing. Okay.

And writing, you might have some of your people do this, but can you get us three or four photographs that we can put in the record before I get gone? Like, I'd like a photograph of the hangar building. Wherever it is on the ground and identify where it is. So we can see what it looks like. And then so the commission can decide where they want to put it. I think it's already semi decided, but. Is that the arena? We just no, I think it's still at the airport. That's the point. It's probably still at the airport towards the back property line there. Okay. We need to go out there and take some pictures and turn them in and show that on that day. That's where it's okay.

When you go by the airport entrance. Mm. Hmm. the next row to the left, a little gravel road.

Is it identical to the hangers that are in the midsection of the airport?

No, this hanger is probably a three airplane hanger. I don't know the dimensions, but the whole front of it opens up. It's not a T-hanger. The one you and I and Dan, you and I and Dan looked at.

It's laying out on the ground.

I didn't make it to that. But the airport is probably okay if it's not in their way right now. There's no sense in us moving it twice. It's not in their way. We need to know where it is, so whenever we decide where to put it, we can get it moved from there to where it's going. There you go. Either out here or to the arena or road department. I think it's going possibly to the arena we talked about. It can go from there.

We can find a spot that it can settle on. Where's that generator for the corners off of?

I heard that was on hold.

I was wondering if you checked on it.

There's gas there. The gas there? Yeah, they run it.

I get an updated price. I'm sure from the time I got that last price, it may have never went up.

Yeah, you didn't get another price. We haven't had a walk-through on it yet.

You ain't got to bid that. I'm not bidding it.

That one wasn't going to be bidded.

You ain't got to bid that.

All right. So that'll make you go ahead and get some new quotes. Yeah, just get new quotes. Okay.

Later, so we'll have them later. All right. Say on the building, like if the building goes to the arena, the hangar goes to the arena, do we want to pour... Footings for the steel poles. I don't think out there we're going to need to worry about putting a concrete floor. It's up to us. Or are we going to put a rock floor because he's going to put his tractors and stuff like that in it. We might want to do like they did his building. Put the supports for the columns and then had it built on top of those. Or, you know, they did a lot of work out there pouring supports. They just almost paved it. So, that decision needs to be made to what what do we need to do? And it should all be there. Are the fittings, the boats, it should have been disassembled in those things or something. So get us some pictures. Tell us what's out there.

Otherwise, what's out there is the arms. That's all that's gone. Yeah. The insulation's gone. I didn't know that they stripped it down where all it is now. That's all it is. It's laying right out there along the fence line. It had been touched.

There was discussion about someone moving it for us.

Yeah, we had to quote $27,000 to put it back up.

That's just the framing, though, wasn't it? No, that's wrapping. That's wrapping. So we still got to go back now and buy a wrap. They'll pay for it. But that's gone.

The $27,000 was to reinstallate it. Okay, gotcha. And put new metal on it. Gotcha. Top metal and everything. Okay, good. That was the quote, and it made it all good. I'd like to feel there if we still get somewhere near it. Time flies. Yeah, it does. And those air conditioners that were in that, we saved those. Those packaging. Yeah, the land that got them settled.

That includes concrete?

No, no. It's just relocated to a spot. We've got the foot. We've got the concrete floor. We pulled the floor. That wasn't concrete. Footings or whatever, I guess. That was including the pier placements, like he's talking about. Okay, yeah, that's what I mean. We'd include that probably. Yeah, but it wouldn't include a slab.

It did include the pier placements, and we put rock in it. That'd be good enough for a tractor. Okay, because we put out in Reno, they put all their equipment in there.

But having said that, that unit, those units, is heated and cooled. If we want to use it for a heated and cooled system, where we want to store something, That'd be the ideal thing.

When they got rid of the... We had two helicopters in it. When they got rid of the siding and all, did they keep the door and the siding on the door, or is it stripped off? It's stripped off. It's down to the frame.

So it's just a frame. Okay.

What size units were they running to?

I think it was a five-ton. Two fives. Two fives. I think so. Gas packs.

If you've got a gas line. There you go. There's your two units right over there. Yeah. They'd do it.

Do that right there. Fix that.

Fix that easy. Sure wouldn't hurt it. Sure would. Them brand new units, we just head-bopped them.

Yeah, they had about three years prior to taking them out. That'd be a done deal. And they would heat it and cool it. There's helicopter storage. I'd do that building right over here. They like brand new. Something to talk about.

Okay. You want me to get a quote on it? Whatever you need to do from getting them installed over there, over here.

Yeah, building right there. The sheriff's storage building. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. He's about ready to move out and move over there as soon as that's done. Okay. We'll leave that.

He'll quote what it costs us for them to put them two units over there.

Yes, sir. Mound with a blowout at the top, return blowout.

equal distance apart okay there you go will do okay all right only other thing i've got to tell y'all we just been doing our routine maintenance we just got through changing down all of our air filters checking all of our lights uh exit signs fire extinguishers everything Replacing belts on some of our units. I had to come in Saturday and replace one of them because it went out Friday night. So I went ahead and checked the rest of them and put new belts on them because they had a couple of cracks in them. So I figured I'd get them in and replace them before they did break. So in the Asheville Courthouse now, officially, all three courtrooms and the hallway are all have LED lights put in them. So, we're not losing half the lights we were upstairs now. So, cost us a little bit now, but later on down the road, it'll save us. You good?

I'm good. You're good.

I'm good. I'm good to do this. All right. Thank you. Thank you for your excellent report. Almost as good as it gets. Aslan's losing her turn. Take those up. Justin's losing his turn. They'll go to Tina.

Okay. Mine's short.

You have to drag it out. We still got Kurt.

have something to report um first item is we need to amend policy 16 which is our policy that we 250 for inventory and since these equipment cost more now we need to increase it with that with the officers and they said that $6.50 is very low for an inventory amount, so we need to increase that. Michelle and I was talking about possibly increasing it to $5.00 instead of $7.50. Michelle, would you feel, you know, which one would be preferred?

I've kind of leaned towards $7.50, and in talking to Glenn and John and Michelle Williams, they think that that should capture just about anything we need inventoried. Because some things I think $500 may still be too low. But we would like to put in there anything that comes in that may be less than $750 that we feel like needs to be kept up with in inventory that we will inventory it anyway, regardless of the price. Just in case something we're just not thinking of right now comes through that we want to capture. We've pretty much looked at most of the... Technology items I've gotten in a price where they're above $750, so I think we're going to get most of that, but there may be something, like I said, we're not thinking of right now that would... Would need to be inventory. Would need to be inventory, and we still can do that.

I'm trying to think of some things that falls into that category to inventory movement there. Below that, that are some kind of sensitive item that we would want to cover. Do we have anything in the language of the other one that says something about that? I'll give you an example. This is just one to think of now. Ballistic vest. If they're less than $750, do we want those inventory? Because those things like that can definitely walk off.

Yes.

And so we may want a list of sensitive things. up with a list.

We can do it at 500 and see how that goes and up at the 750 later if we still see that we're inventorying things that don't need to be inventoried. I mean that is a way to make sure that we're not missing something. Change it to 500 instead.

Or we could sit in a mountain or any, any, any sensitive items, which you have to list those in.

Yeah.

Cause I mean, we, we have TVs or something that we've thought you never know with the size of TV.

Now you can buy a lot of those for less than 500 and what I'm saying, do you want to, you want to protect those from leaving here or not?

cell phone cell phones might be something uh uh tasers for the sheriff's department things that that would be small for most of that stuff now is over 500. um and like corey was mentioned some ipads used to they were below 500 or 750 but now we've noticed that they've increased in cost they're all about a thousand so it would still capture them but like i said We can start out with 500 and see how that goes.

On things like iPads and all, one of the issues there, any item, for instance, that would collect and keep data, because that's our data. So you're not just protecting the iPad from leaving, you're protecting what's stored in it. Right. So I'd look at those and see if you want to name them. Any kind of item that stores county public data. How much does the vlog camera cost, Christy? And the recorders, I don't know. Some of these recording systems may have some of our data on them. And it may be cheap.

So you're going to double that $250 to $500 and then see how it goes?

I'm going to $500.

I'm going to $500. Minimum $500.

with him it was some language to put in there to cover everything what about things like uh the out in the road department the chainsaws might be less than five what kind of items we used to have trouble Our people that work for us are real good now, but then years and years ago, it almost got to where you, you know, that sauce at my house. Or you get over to Roddy's and talk about vacuum cleaners or something. What kind of items would y'all want to protect? keep to keep um because you got you got employees and staff people that come and go for people retire people people uh quit and uh whatever equipment they've got you'll want to have some kind of string attached to it so they got to turn it in what what's the power cells going for these days

Yeah, the last one we bought for the maintenance department I think was like $350. Yeah, you may want to protect something. I will say this now, the only problem with old chainsaws, trying to put a sticker on it, is keeping the sticker on. It's hard to find a place.

Those would be real easy if you'd engrave the number on them, just get you one of those little things and we can write those on them. I'd do that on mine. Sharpie works pretty well. Engrave it and then sharpie it. Whatever, I'm hard of mind. And you could use some generic language like a minimum of $500, but regardless of minimum, all mechanical tools, electrical tools. You might want to protect your skill saws and all that kind of stuff. But that's a big list. But again, the whole idea behind the inventory is to protect the So we know where it is.

We were just, we've started to get into with increased prices. There's things that are being inventory that are not as you need to worry about inventory. And we're trying to kind of fix that.

One of the things I was out there to think of, we went through that with the state too, with gang wardens in 67 counties with trucks and two boxes full of stuff. What do they have?

I'll say this for as far as the maintenance department too, on a lot of my stuff, even if it's not inventoried, I still got a list.

Yeah, that's good to have whether it's got an inventory number on it or not. Yeah. But the whole idea behind inventory numbers is to control your inventory, control the ownership and location of county owned, government owned stuff. not reduce the number of numbers we've got a list of. The bigger we get, the bigger the number's going to get. We can't just keep increasing the minimum. Because we've got these items, they're going to be there forever. And TVs and laptops and things like that definitely have changed. If you're going to run into somebody that may have some stored stuff on them, don't worry. Okay, just in the way of discussion, y'all know what the idea is here anyway. Does that help, Tina?

Yes, sir.

Okay.

And that's all I have, because the other item was about the Operations Center bid opening. It's 9 a.m. Thursday, September the 17th. The pre-bid was today, or yesterday, wasn't it, Commissioner Mize?

Mm-hmm. Did you mention that the 16th, the Blue Cross? Was that something we needed to bring up about it? Yes.

Or schooling? So September the 16th, Blue Cross is coming to educate our employees of their resources, Blue Cross's resources, and just educate them of the plan. There's no change to the Blue Cross plan, but Blue Cross recommended that we could They would come out and talk with our employees just to provide them the resources that they have. But, you know, sometimes we just don't know all the resources. Yeah.

They've already sent out emails to everybody. Yes.

Encourage them when it would come. Yes. Have questions about these emails. It'd be a good time to get caught up, do it at least once a year. I don't know if you're on government Medicaid stuff and all that. Every month I get some kind of little letter that says, please read changes in coverages. It's like this thing. I don't read it. I'm sure that happens. Little things are tweaked all the time.

Right, and they provide information on how to keep our rates down, so hopefully our rate won't go up next year.

Also, there's a thing on there you might want to throw out. A lot of people may not know about it, but there's the wellness benefit on the hospital's yield. If people just go in and say that they've been to the doctor for a yearly checkup, you get a $50 gift card. They send it to you in the mail. They get mine every year.

And a lot of employees don't know that, so they're going to educate everybody.

But I think that helps us with our rating, too.

Sure it does, yeah. Keep that in front of our people.

I'm excited about them coming. It's been very helpful.

And gives us a little more, a whole lot of money to that. It'd be nice for them to come by and say hello every once in a while. Okay. No other questions for Tina? We will go back up to where we... We're a little bit ahead, and if Ashlyn's ready for her report and information she might want to share, she'd be up next.

Is this being recorded?

Yes.

Are we on air for everybody?

Yeah, we're on air now.

It wasn't on air at first.

Yeah, we wasn't on there first.

We had technical difficulties.

But we didn't do anything controversial.

Okay. Really, I have received a quote from MCA about our recorder maintenance and this is for this last year's maintenance. I requested the quote to put in last year's budget packet that we got ready and requested it from the company that we used to get it from. They now go through MCA for their billing. It's just kind of been a back and forth that will get you the bill. And I never got a bill, so I budgeted about an amount, the same amount that we had paid last year. When I got the quote, it was a lot larger than what I expected. And there are parts of the quote now, there are parts of this quote that include radio system issues. stuff and so i have worked to try to get them to separate that and they will not separate it so it's not just uh so it's not just a quote for the recorder um now this is the recording system that records all of our 911 calls or all calls all calls so well let me preface this it records everything that comes in to central so so yeah there's jail phone calls on there so this this recorder is recording all the all the phones that are recorded

And we would be paying for the recorder maintenance contract out of 9-1-1 funds.

So historically, yes. I have had the recorder and we wait for it.

That's kind of where I'm going. I just want to point out you don't have to if it's not recording all 9-1-1, but we definitely want to record all 9-1-1 because that's a requirement.

So, yes, absolutely. The bulk of this, quote, is for what's called the AIS, and that is the interface with the Motorola P25s. This is a charge that I was unaware of, and it's going to occur every other year. We will get a, at this time it's $28,000. but every other year to be an additional $28,000 just so that they can make sure that the software is good and works with Motorola.

It's a total Motorola. We're not talking about $500 a year.

No, we're not. To me, it's significant. And so here is my issue with it. And I've been going around with Motorola, and I've talked to Matt, and we're still working on things. Yes, I want to pay the maintenance contract for the annual, they call it the, Premium annual service reports. It's a 24-7 on-site and remote support software updates, 24-7 monitoring for the equipment. Okay, and then there is a P25 radio system AIS upgrade fee. Okay, so they're going to drop a new version every other year. That fee is going to be, like I said, around $28,000 or more. It started out at $28,000. Here's the shocking thing for me. Last year, my reporter maintenance was $9,000. This year, it's $19,000. They're saying that we owe $19,000 for all of this past budget year's maintenance. And so they're just sending the bill for that. Okay, so I budgeted $20,000. So there is $20,000. And then I have saved money in other places. So I have in the fund that I budgeted for the reporter there, I have $28,000. This bill is $58,000. And this is for this past year. So I have not gotten a quote or an agreement for next year's. But what I want our attorney to look at, if possible, is this. If y'all remember, I'll take you back. I got a grant when we started this radio system. I was going to buy new consoles. Well, then we decided to get the P25 radio system. And so we put that grant on hold. When the radio system contract, when we did it, it included new consoles. And I said, well, let's just purchase the recorder. St. Clair, 911 will purchase the recorder out of that contract. So that's what we did. As a whole, the radio system was bid out. And I just purchased that portion with the grant money. I believe as a whole, they have given you a quote for maintenance on the radio system. So I got Corey to send me the maintenance contract All these pages. And I read them. And they do not cover maintenance on the equipment, the recording equipment. But they do have the AIS in here. So I just want someone to make sure that we are not being charged double. I'm not a professional on the radio lingo. And it depends on who you talk to. But I highlighted it in here. I found it in the contract. And we only have the one reporter. So there is only one AIS interface, in my opinion, if I know what I'm talking about. So I think it's included.

So if it's included and we're paying for it, we're paying for it twice.

Well, we haven't paid.

Yeah, we're paying them $242,000.

And I agree. That's why I'm like... I'm trying to figure out what to do about it next. I do agree that we owe, I guess, the $19,000 for the piece of equipment. It's the AIS that I'm a little fuzzy on, and I can't get an answer. Quite frankly, I just can't get an answer for it.

What's the note on here, the P25 rail system portion of $19,000?

That's the AIS.

We're already paying for that. We paid them last year, and the main agreement we have with them Should be paying for that.

That's what I think.

So we shouldn't owe them.

So the $20,000 below, they're saying that that's the half that we didn't pay for last year of the AIS, the 2024 upgrade. We still owe $20,000, which we never had a contract for. That contract, I believe, was part of the radio system. So when it was fully implemented and they turned it over to only talk on the P25s, That's when they upgraded it. To me, that's a radio system function. So, the bills here, I have $28,000 in that one account that I know. I mean, I'm sure that we could find the additional $163,000. Now, next year, I put it in the, I moved it down to where everything else was. So, and they've called me and asked me about this, and it's like, I do want to pay you. I do know, but they would never send me an agreement. So y'all never agreed to pay for anything. And that's my point is you never agreed to pay for this. We budgeted for it, but they never sent me the agreement. And so now they're going to have to, you're going to have to okay this agreement before we can pay the invoice.

I'm not paying anything else on this right here until we find out. It should be covered under what we already paid, that $242,000 we paid on the year.

So I'll show you. I'll give this to y'all because I have a copy of it. But there's my tabs are in here. So like here it says the SUA coverage table. It says Motorola Logging Interface for the equipment. That's the AIS. It says they got the check marks.

System Upgrade.

That's check marks in there.

They have...

The logging equipment and testing, verifying logging of the trumped calls. That's the radios. This is the AIS. That's what's in this big quote. So when you talk to one person, you get one answer or so.

You need to talk to the guy who came out and sold us all this.

Well, it would be not. This is the agreement.

And now it would look like another twin.

Well, it would be another twin. They're selling the house. That's right. Okay. So the other thing to consider is the company.

The company that maintains our login system is Quality Recording Isolations. Okay. Well, now they have to send their invoices for Motorola. You see what I'm saying? So they're not doing it individually for us anymore because Motorola has the lockdown on all of the AIS stuff to make that stuff work. So now Motorola is contracting. Quality reporting solutions to do that.

So it's kind of like, they need to change their name to surprise because they surprise us with a bill every once in a while.

Well, I just y'all never agreed to pay it. Even though I asked, I requested and they said it would come from Motorola. I never get anything. And then I get a thing saying, hey, you're late. Nobody ever sent me an invoice. I never got a bill. So they sent me an invoice and I said, I can't pay this because I don't have an agreement with you.

When we looked at that, we said something about, well, does anybody else do this maintenance? But we found out it's proprietary. It's proprietary. You kind of get billed. You don't just get a choice and get billed. I guess.

So, Kurt, you just need to look at that because... So I just want to know... We shouldn't be paying any of this because we already paid them $242,000 a year.

Now, in this, they're not covering the equipment. What we agreed for the $200,000 a year, they're not covering the equipment, which should be this top one, less than or except the other $19,000.

It should be $19,000.

And I asked them, you know, you've got to give me something for next year, too, while we're talking. You've got to give me something for next year. And they said, well, I said it's going to be $19,000. And they said, well, it all depends on the price of things. Okay.

I don't know what to do.

But that's where we're at. I'm not trying to have a late bill. Never got a bill. And now I can't pay until y'all approve. And I've got questions.

We were kind of looking at 20 plus 18 is 38. Then we're looking at 38 plus another 20. We didn't pay the last 20. But

But this right here, all this shit, that 20 right there, and that... And the 19. I think that's in the 150. That should be in the 242 we paid. Yeah. We think.

I'm under...

I feel that way. But like I said, I'm trying to redo stuff.

We get charged $242 for stuff, and then we also get charged on the side for other stuff.

Motorola does know that your bonus depends on whether or not you find these savings.

Do they not understand that? We just need to get the guy to come back here and explain all this to us again.

Yes, because when I ask the same questions, I'm getting just this answer, and this answer is not good enough for me.

I did not want to accept this answer.

So what we're saying here is that the 18, 19.

I'm saying the 19, I know that I should open. We don't have an agreement to pay that, but that we should have. I asked for a recorder contract, a recorder maintenance contract. And so if that's what they're going to charge us, that is what we owe. Because they have monitored. They have been monitoring. So they never quit. It shows up there that, you know, late, need to update and all that. But they never quit monitoring. So they have given us that service.

The only thing I say we should be paying them right now is half of this 38 up here, the 19.

Somewhere in there is another 19.

Yeah, they're saying the 19 is for the AIS. Yeah. We've done all that with radio systems with this new contract we got with them, the $242,000. I think so. So I just need clarification on that. I budgeted $20,000 last year. They're saying you owe $19,000. I'd pay them that $19,000 out of that $20,000. I wouldn't pay them nothing else to Kirk. It goes over all this stuff and comes back and tells us, but I think. When what we've been doing, we don't know what we're selling money.

Does your packet that Kirk can have include this week? Okay, good. So we're looking at the 19. I don't think it's 38.

It's in the 38 plus the 20.

They say, well, last year now, 58. So, now our bill is.

Okay, yes, I have to just get friends to bring to bring that guy back out here. Come talk to us for when we're done. Because he said it covered everything when we talked to him with the whole radio.

So that's yeah. So that's.

They're used to dealing with a lot of counties, but they can't trick all of them.

And I put it in this year's budget at just $20,000, I think. I thought I hooked it. It was like $32,000. I came up with something. I was just trying to remember.

I was thinking we'll have to add a little bit to that, but it wasn't bad. But then I'll have to get with you because you also had something on. splitting something with the sheriff, and I wasn't sure if it was part of this or something else. Yes.

Well, maybe. I tried to put enough to cover. Yeah. Because you can't really get a straight answer about what your charge is going to be next year, and I said, I can't pay you unless we have an agreement to pay you. That's where we're at.

Normal street, that's where they're located. Did I read that right? That's the Motorola people. Is that the people you deal with? Right there.

But I didn't know if somebody could call the guy that did the contract and just say, don't say what we're doing, or I don't really try to be deceiving or anything, but just say, can you explain what this portion of this contract is?

And if they say it's the same thing as this one... Why is Motorola different people than Motorola trying to sell us different bills? Okay.

Well, because the people that are actually monitoring us haven't been paid yet by Motorola. So they've been doing it for free because Motorola was supposed to bill us or give us a call, you know, an agreement to do it, and they never did. So they had to pay Motorola to get their stuff to interface to work because Motorola charges them, and they're just supposed to bill for them. Okay. They've paid Motorola, but they haven't been paid by us. Motorola hasn't paid them for us because we haven't paid Motorola.

Yeah, we've paid Motorola. This is so we can mark up 10%. We've paid Motorola $242,000. Yeah, we've paid Motorola.

I was about to say something.

I better not say that out. $7 million. Yes. Plus $242,000. For me. Yes, sir.

equipment maintenance.

There's a pause for maintenance. And I will say that the company that is monitoring our recorder, they are fantastic. If there's a lull in traffic, they're calling and checking. Nothing gets by them. We get daily updates and they have done their job.

If they're doing the job, we just might be paying extra for it.

I know that we haven't paid extra for their service. I just don't know about the Motorola part of this. That's the only thing I'm clear on.

is the easiest solution I have.

On another note, I've been working, I don't know, I haven't said much about it, but when I first started, our phone bill's a restaurant. I think we're playing almost 60-something thousand dollars a year between the Bell South and the AT&T CenturyLink. So I started working on those, and I actually got those cut way down. And then I got the granite bill cut way down. Well, I found another opportunity to, from our State 9-1-1 board, all the AT&T bills that we have been paying. We should not, after this month, get another bill from AT&T. And I have requested from the 9-1-1 board a refund on all of our legacy fees for this year. And I'm also requesting for last year. So last year's will be around... $20,000 and this year's will be around $20,000. So hopefully we will be getting a rebate to 911 for those legacy costs that AT&T was charging us.

So we're really working on getting those prices cut down.

And then I think our new fund system, I think we're looking to turn, I hope it's not MCA. I hope we're going to start that in October, so.

Okay.

And I'll keep working on this. I'm still asking questions, so waiting for people to keep going.

If you look at that, if nothing else, we'll just get Fred to bring it back out here that come and went over all of this with us. So that way that cover everything.

But if nothing else, Kirk's not a radio maintenance expert. He's an attorney. So you may need that guy directly in touch with you at some point. So tell him to show you a contract where this is this. Right.

Yeah, I highlighted everything in the contract.

We should have that signed down. Is this the same thing? Yeah. Same roof?

Yeah.

It's the same roof. Thank you so much. Your report was almost as excellent as Ryan's was.

We'll get better next time.

Okay. A lot of pressure on Justin. He's not here. Have you had any contact with him? Were they really coming up?

Yeah, I'll tell you that. You weren't here when they called me earlier.

Okay, gotcha. Well, we'll move on now to Kirk Walker, county attorney, for his report. He'll be prepared to shift back up to Superintendent Pell City whenever they get here.

They've got traffic stopped on them.

Oh, man, I'm dead wrong. I've been there twice. Yeah.

You get to go through it. Yeah, absolutely.

Well, so I guess the things that I'm working on right now, I'm working on the P-card policy. And then also I've requested copies of the contract with Summit Foods. They're the folks that got the bid for providing the food at the jail. So I've requested copies of the contract that they have with several other counties in the state just to check some of the things.

I saw something come up on the email string about the food contract. Yes. And that's what that was about.

It is. Yes, sir. So I'm reviewing that and expect to have that done pretty quickly. I don't know if I'll have it ready for next week for sure, but I will certainly do my best to.

I'm not saying that's already been approved. We've already approved it.

Right, yeah, so maybe there's not really anything to talk about.

Not unless you think it's something that needs to be brought to their attention. No.

Just letting you know what I'm working on.

You're working on a lot.

When I was looking at the contract on the jail food contract, I didn't see anything in there about any differences, and maybe there are not any differences, and I'm relatively sure that jail staff's keeping up with this, but are there any differences in the nutrition requirements for the federal prisoners that there would be with the statute? I mean, we're getting a fix all the time on little loopholes like that. So if you would, somewhere during this process, help us understand that there are no differences in the requirement. And if there is, what would the difference be and what would it cost us? Because there may be a difference in the nutritional part. And that could be a big surprise when we start collecting our money on our prisoners. So look at that part and see.

They're supposed to be sending us that contract over here. I thought he was on the way over here.

Looks like we're kind of moving towards the possible federal prisoners in the jail and we're going to be fixing their food. I guess while we're in there looking at that contract, are there any differences in the food requirements, access to medical care? Their mental health care or any of those kind of things. So, so we know to not be surprised. Well, we, we'd like to send y'all y'all some money, but you hadn't complied with sections that part of the federal requirement.

Require a spa day.

Yeah. Yeah.

Did you say you got a pedicure? Oh, okay. Okay. All right. I have.

Communicated with the folks from Aaliyah about the MOU. And we've got a little bit of back and forth about that and trying to work the logistics of that whole arrangement there. That's all.

That's all I've got. Do the commissioners have any questions for Legal Beagle? Just get the sewer down. Oh, yeah. When you get that contract for sewer... Blair Farm Road.

We've got the number ready to move on.

Right. As soon as I know something, I will, y'all will be the first to know, I can assure you. Okay. All right. Thank you, Kirk. Thank you.

I don't want to relax now, but you can go on and do your part. Can I do my part?

Move on over there to the, to the main body of the agenda here. We'll move on to that item. Number 1, discuss request from county employee, Angela Torres for approval of depression, basically ready to do that on Tuesday to discuss reputation. Right? We'll probably manage for a new contract for fire alarm inspection and monitoring the automatic fire systems. Y'all know we have requirements to do that. And he's got that here. Sheriff's office listed and human resources technology office. You're back good with that. Item three, discuss request for Sheriff Murray to renew Paul Monk's employment contract. He's under a three-year contract, so we're ready to renew that on Tuesday. item four discuss uh request from revenue commissioner ken crowe to revise the gis assistant manager and county mapper job descriptions that was turned in today when we were going over the uh uh the budget request uh are y'all ready to do that tuesday or y'all still want to talk about that y'all ready to go ahead and put them on our tuesday to change them okay Item number five. Discuss question number one. Director hasn't come to approve the contract with MCA in the amount of $38,000, and that's what the discussion was just about. So, basically, turn that over to the county attorney for right now, but we'll know more about it here pretty soon.

So, we're going to move it to the next work session?

Yeah. We'll give Kirk some time to look at that.

What we need to do? I would think so because of the amount. Mm-hmm.

I would think so.

Okay.

Which is still before the end of this year, budget year.

If you want us to, you could just change it and improve it 19,000. Go ahead and put it at 19,000. Are we up to y'all?

They said we owe them past year.

It seems like you might just wait and clear it all at once rather than paying a piece unless, I mean, y'all do that.

I'd rather you look at the whole thing first and then we might not know what's going on.

Let them know that our county is ready.

Discuss travel request and within that, I wasn't here for the discussion on that, but the looking at some changes to making the request for travel and kind of going back to where we kind of used to be motor where we asked departments to give us an estimate of their travel and we approved their travel instead of every individual time we kind of know more about what it took there today so we're still looking at the travel uh we will continue to have a little special travel request come up and i'll bring this particular one up uh when it comes to economic development and grants travel uh those are going to come up as the projects come up uh and we've got one for instance coming up now you couldn't have anticipated a meeting with uh some staff members in DC here in a couple weeks back last year sometime uh within those we'll still have to adjust those as we get to them one of the things that I said that I used to do and y'all may want to think about we put a pool of money from the county we just guessed that we needed ten thousand dollars to do those and we put that money in don smith's budget since that's where candace works out of there she makes the reservations for most of the flights to dc when it when it comes to grants or asking for money if we put a pool of money in there he he actually writes the bills that doesn't affect the credit card but those kind of things so y'all think about That's what we used to do. And I thought it worked well without getting into the weeds about us approving each individual one, especially relating a trip to Germany might pop up if a company's looking to move here. And you may need to be going to Germany in a month or three weeks. Well, that's harder for us to handle than it is for Don. So y'all just maybe put it on. And I'm out of money in his budget specifically set aside earmark flag, and he'll give us a, he'll give us a running total of whatever we spend that in case you have to improve it. So that's that's the only comment I had other than that ready to put the travel request on the. Okay, number 7, discuss board appointments. We still got a few board appointments. We're kind of. For lack of a better word sitting on them, because we've got some activity in a couple of areas that we, um. Moving into new budgets might affect a few of these board appointments. Other than that, if any of the individual commissioners have board appointments, they're ready to make a couple of you. I think last time. Anybody who knows any other points?

The only thing, Lord, we need is that we need to pull in some of those things. I can't even store them. The environment isn't much of a problem.

Yeah, the Historical Development Commission, if you would, Tuesday, have us a list of the members of that Historical Development Commission. And even if we don't make any appointments on Tuesday, everybody will have a list of who's on it. maybe even who used to be on those positions and they're gone. We may be assuming somebody's on there and they're not. So if you'll give us an update on the Historical Development Commission. RC&D, your term expires.

We wait.

yeah she's gonna be coming up yeah once she resigned that she was just an honor and i would say no there ain't no requirement there's no requirements i believe government removed that they don't take that at all they just it's not required they just like you to have y'all wouldn't take that off their list then all we need is one for the mpo mpo which part of the regional planning commission and um uh i don't think you would want to put somebody totally new to what that is there again, Katrina already knows about what it is dealing with the MPO through Springfield. But you might look at Moody as a big person in that partnership with the Metropolitan Planning Organization, I think. Is the mayor on that? Who in Moody is on the MPO? I don't even know who's on it. That'd be another one. Get us a list of who's on the MPO.

That's the I just poured it into the, you know, the health care.

That's what Candace is on.

Maybe, but she might be basically representing the activity of spring. He's also part of the MPO. The MPO is, you know, right now is. Part of the regional planning commission that is listed as the municipalities that are listed is not rural anymore. They're listed as urban. Uh, the rural areas were listed as the rural planning organization. It doesn't do anything. It's just there's nothing goes to that old community, but the is in the code and activity has to go through the people that we appoint on that before you can get some grants through the regional planning condition. so it'd be pretty important and it doesn't have a lot to do with transportation but it could have so that one would fit the biggest thing it will do is going to be anything we do on 411 anything we do on uh like we're working now with that uh grant for the bridge at Brompton, the red light that we've just finished up in the spring, but also then the red light turn lane in Argo. The mayor of Argo, for instance, I don't know. We may want to get somebody involved. It's got a project that's important. Yeah, I know he's on there.

We've got another coming up in the. Springle just hit, just started an apple study on State Route 23 at Walmart and the new industrial development.

Can you meddle in that a little bit? When that does come up, you're involved in it. It has to do with road. And where I'm talking about meddling, the, if you go 23 hits 11. The bridge is involved, the elevation of the road is going to be involved, because the railroad bridge is going to be involved, which may change the whole elevation, which means there may be a lot going on right there. There's even more going on that's not on the plate, because the plate was already full. If you look to the left, there's a hill that makes sight distance to the new school. So, that's for some meddling that we need to be saying that that he'll can be put in at least the planning for changes to us for 11. you know, we're talking about it's. Turn left and you.

Yeah, it's 11.

You drop down on 11 right into that traffic coming out of that school now. And one of the solutions was change the speed limit to 15. Well, you can change that all you want to, but if you stand out there and slow it down, people are going to be blasting over that hill anyway. So when I met with Skipper, is that who does Springfield's work? Seemed like it's Skipper.

Used to be Skipper, but the same engineer.

Okay, they, they didn't want to address it in there while they were doing the other work down there for spring, because it's going to kind of muddy the water and what they were already doing. But if we don't get that on this list, that's the 1st thing somebody's going to say it's not in. Whatever still tip, whatever those acronyms are. So we need to get the discussion on that field. Public out in front of people. Okay. And that's the kind of thing that commissioners going to DC asking for money can look for. Because the state's not going to lower that yield. They've got plenty to do. They're not going to voluntarily lower that yield if they can lower the speed limit first. But I don't think it's a solution. And I think somewhere out there, we need to look at that yield. one time there was a suggested route to bypass behind the new schools literally coming from county highway 9. you remember some discussion that was somewhere another you could cut over there oak grove road or whatever it was and there was a bypass literally with a dotted line on the map that's as far as they ever got It would lead into lining up some kind of road across there that would get people to 23rd. So if you had a bypass through there and anybody really wanted it, that could move a lot of traffic. That would get on the interstate at 23, instead of going through town, Washington Valley. There you go. It's sort of like the situation at Riverside. A lot of people from Raglan and all get on the interstate at Riverside. If they can cut across sugar farm. Otherwise, I got to go through all the traffic to get on. So it's a similar situation as that. And I found out if they're not on somebody's little map as a dotted line, that's the 1st thing. So. Come up with a suggestion over there. Can we do this, this, and this?

Put it on the plate.

Ricky, you want me to get up and represent Justin?

Go ahead and just go over it. I got it right here. All right. If you got it, when he gets here, we're just going to say we're done. We appreciate y'all stopping by. There you go. That's made for the parking lot, bus shop, and VLE, board education. Their portion total would be $67,283.22. County's portion would be $67,283.22. We can get these figures from Clay.

Y'all have a coffee in your...

I just wanted to be sure you didn't get them from Mr. Stevens.

No, me and Clay went up there and measured this. My measurements are very precise.

The plant mix figures are good through December 31st.

So you're going to get somebody to plant mix this for them?

Yeah, I'm already talking with the superintendent for wire grid.

What about the, you know, they'll have to do this road up here for this, for St. Clair County for Roy. It has to be done. It can't be done when school's going on, so it has to be done during Christmas break also. It has to be done during Christmas break.

They could do that, maybe Columbus Day break or something. Yeah, they can do that in October.

Which means we've got to do our part before that. If they had time in November, do it Thanksgiving week, the week after Thanksgiving. They've got three opportunities. Yeah.

I'm already talking to them about it. So 67, 283, 22.

50, that'll be what now, Rick? 50, 50. Yeah, 50, 50.

But 57 will come from that. Yeah, 50,000.

Half of that 67, we're going 50,000. We take it from the Pell City Co-op. I got it.

They agreed to that.

They agreed to it. I've talked with them. So they agreed to that. And the 17 is the road. We're doing a lot of that. If you look at the number of some of that, you'll see down here, the labor. $4,892 equipment, 9,000. That's us. So that's labor and equipment. So that's 17,000. Mostly all ours is labor and equipment. Of course, now we are going to set up a taller ground on it for the pavement. That's where you can lay it up. There you have it. Right.

Now we've got our chip and so on.

The 2350 is already gone.

No, we're going to put down tar and gravel so they can come back and put two-inch with that. That's chippings. Yeah, but we're going to use a different.

Plant nips.

We're going to use a different plant nips.

You don't choose. You cut the camera off now.

Okay, put it on Tuesday.

Wait a minute, we may hold on just a little bit. We've got to, let's, let's, just now. Tell them they're late, so let's 2.30.

He's going to have that on your report that he just spoke about, plus the St. Clair County Board of Education.

You want me to call him and get him to handle it if they want to go back? If you don't mind, if it's this way. I got Randall. He called me earlier and said, hey, we're still on there for 2.30. You're talking to Justin Randall.

the traffic that's an issue and we've already handled their problem that that's okay with me.

I just tell them since they weren't here they didn't get a chance to get to it.

Put them in a panic mode.

Those are agreements. We'll present those agreements, right? Yes, those are agreements. Y'all got the camera turned on? No, sir.

Hey, y'all know you're late, right? Yeah, okay, just turn around and go back to Fayette City.

We'll handle it. We can't. We can't say nothing else. Yes, it is. We don't. Can we put it in next year's budget? We'll put it in next year's budget. We'll put it in next year's budget. There's a promise. We'll get it next year. Y'all don't need to be passing on cops. Y'all can turn around and go on. Y'all turn around and go back. If we don't handle it, I don't handle it. We're having on there to approve it Tuesday. We figured y'all down there caught up in that traffic, so just go ahead and turn around and go back. Yeah. I know it. Turn around and go back. I know y'all backed up down there. Just turn around and go back. Give me a chance to turn around. I will. Justice said thank y'all. Thank you. Thank you. All right. See y'all. They said they're still sitting there on 231. They said they've been sitting there for 10, 15 minutes.

Yeah, they've been doing a pretty long stretch, probably trying to get a chunk of it done before the 4 o'clock thing where everybody leaves. That's all we have. We can go back to the budget tomorrow. No, no, no, no.

Jeff?

You got anything?

You're not on this agenda for money, but we kind of got a break here. This is time to grab some money.

Could you use a generator? Sir?

Could you use a generator? A gas meter? Gas meter? Gas meter? Gas line. We got the gas line. Gas line's there. Gas line's there. Now you want a gas meter. Come on, man. I mean, I don't need the meter.

I just need the generator running. That's all I need. I will say this. Alleyway is an issue bringing people in there. And I mean that respectfully. I am worried that... I am worried about the alleyways. They're moving people in and out. And I think we've already talked to the city.

We can do

just half of that blocks yeah if we wanted to but you know you can look at it and see if we may want yeah dan and i already looked at it in the back there he's building forward yeah we're not gonna do it till we get the guy got the gas line the gas meter set the generator in and all that then you're gonna do all the paving at one time there and up behind

Okay, in the words of the infamous president of the Alabama League of Municipalities. All minds clear. All minds clear. Great Paris at the back.

Cut it all. It's all.