County Commission - Regular Meeting

Probably because we went live online, we're not online. Appreciate it, everybody. Coming out today, Kurt, don't let them give you a hard time. We're not getting here real early. I saw you out there working in the hall. I was. That's not a problem. You just keep doing the work of the people. Before we get started and do the introductions and all that, if you'll bow with me, I'll ask God to correct the proceedings of our meeting. Dear God, we come before you humble, dear Lord, and we thank you for being our guide and being our protector, dear God, and for leaving your word to be our guide. Lord, we ask you to pay special attention to the needs of our people, dear Lord, and put those pains of compassion on our heart to be sure we address those that don't have the things that we have. God, we also thank you for your protection of our families, and we know that you're the source of all healing, whether that be financial healing or physical healing, Lord. We just put all those at your feet, dear Lord. And now we ask during this particular meeting, dear Lord, to help us as we make decisions and that we make those decisions that will always show a good light on you, dear Lord, and we know that we'll be going the right path. And all these things I pray in the name of Jesus. Amen. Let's ask our missionary, Rick Parker, to release the plate.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Okay. You may be seated. I really want to... look out across this special meeting here and see if y'all want to have a school board meeting.

I think we've got a quorum.

St. Clair County Schools Board of Education, we thank y'all for being here. We know we have a difficult job, but if you hope a difficult job, and I don't know that even the citizens, I know we don't. We let it get by us sometimes. That is one big operation to operate, no matter what county or area you're in, all the buildings that you do. Once we find out all the little maintenance things, keeping the bathrooms operational is a big thing. Now, you're thinking, you've got to keep the bathrooms operated. Y'all have that. No problem, guys. Y'all got a big job over there and it's an important job in our lives that we know that I'm very aware that public education has been under fire now for several years for different things. And I'm a little concerned myself about where we're going with public education. The further we go with the challenges in the public system that you run, the more people we're going to leave out. I'm not sure we're addressing that part of it, even though I'm a school choice person up to a point. But I tell you what, I'm worried about public education. I think in this county we've got it in good hands, but I don't know how good a hand you can have the way we actually fund you and everything. So having said that, I'm not sure I want to see where the counties start funding. I'm going to bring that up before I finish. Proud to have David here, and we have Coosa River Keepers represented here. Appreciate you being here. I'm going to give you a little spot when I do my report here a little bit for you. And we're ready to get started with today's agenda. And I think part of that would be the board of education. Glad to see Katrina here. She is the incoming. Commissioner for district 1, so we glad you're here and coming to these meetings and getting caught up. You already had enough experience with city of spring will to know that if you just popped in here the day that your new session started, you'd be behind. So, we appreciate you coming in and being at these meetings and trying to get caught, especially during our budget time going on here. So with that, and there comes our captain over the jails and our coroner. I always get a little nervous when the coroner shows up. I will get us started here today. We had a work session last Thursday where we established our agenda, but an agenda that In our opinion, it's always a moving document and we'll probably add a few things to it and make some adjustments as we go through that agenda as long as it has the approval majority of this commission. So with that, I call this meeting to order. And the first thing on our agenda is to approve the agenda. You've got that in front of you. Entertain a motion to approve. Second. Any discussion? Any additions, deletions at this time? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed no. Motion carries. Next on the agenda is to approve the minutes of the regular meeting of June the 23rd. Entertaining motion? Motion. Second. Properly moved and seconded. Any additions, deletions, any kind of changes to those minutes that any of you can think of at this time? Not all in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed no. Motion carries. Next item under reports. We have the Honorable John Ray here. the attorney for the St. Clair County Schools Systems Board of Education. And appreciate you being here today and your first item on our agenda. So we're going to give the podium to you. Well, I'm going to defer it to the superintendent. There you go. That was a wise move.

So first of all, I'd like to thank you all for adding us to the agenda late. I know that John Ray reached out to Tina on Friday, and I appreciate you getting this on there so quickly I know that y'all had a work session Thursday but we had a board meeting Thursday night so timing on that part didn't work out good but thank y'all for doing that but on uh while we're here um at our board meeting the Odenville community and the Odenville school zone community which also you know includes some of Margaret presented a petition to uh for a proposed 15 mil tax for the Old Mill School Zone. And we took that petition, we accepted that petition, and we passed a resolution there with the board to pursue a 15 mil property tax for the upcoming election in November. We're here, and I know you've got us on the agenda, but we would love for y'all to be able to pass that resolution to get us where the Odemo community could pursue this 15 mil tax. The Odemo community is really excited because they've seen the things that's been happening with the passing of Moody and Springville and then Raglan. passed the tax this last time. And so they've come to us and want to do that because this is a great opportunity for that school zone to do some big stuff. So we just ask that y'all do that. And thank you for your consideration in that. And thanks for working with us on that. Thank you, Tina, for getting us on that.

You're very welcome. Thank y'all. Yeah, just print it on there, but I think we all know, just be sure it's in the resolution. John Ray, one of your fellow attorneys that you've dealt with a little bit over the years, Bill Trussell.

Mm-hmm.

I think he actually started .

He was.

He pointed out to me a long time ago that unlike Chairman Bateman, who got his legal degree from Jefferson State Community College, he would like to share some legal advice. Without me going into telling us why the county commission was approached to do this, I'd like to turn that part of it over to you.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes. It's good that you mentioned Mr. Trussell. I am, I'm proud to be in his, following his footsteps. It's an interesting thing that our firm has represented the St. Clair County Board of Education for over 50 years. That's pretty unusual. And so we're, it's an honor for us to do that. So under amendment 972 of the Alabama constitution, this was passed by the voters in St. Clair County back in 2019. It allows the school districts that have been established in St. Clair County to pass a school tax. And we've done that in Moody, Pell City, Springville, and Ragland. And the people of Odenville have asked for the same opportunity to do that here. The law requires all of the funds generated from the tax to be spent only in the district from which it's assessed. So all of this money, if it's passed by the voters of Odenville, would stay in the oldenville community and our understanding is designed to build a new middle school is the is the proposed project that would be funded by this tax so under the under the amendment the petition is presented to the board of education board of education has passed a resolution and then we come to you the county commission and ask you to put it on the ballot because you're ultimately the taxing authority in the county and if you put it on the ballot And if it passes, the way it would work is that the commission then would assess this tax like you assess all other taxes at your meeting in February. And so this tax, even if approved by the voters in November, would not go into effect until October of 2027 because the county has to assess it. And that would be the same for the Raglan tax as well. So that February date is the key legal date when the property tax actually gets assessed and to be collected in October of 27 in the event the voters were to pass it. Any questions from the commissioners? Any questions for me?

We have this on our agenda as the first item under new business, which we can do it then or we can do it now if y'all want to while we're discussing. We can do it now. I wanted and I appreciate your explanation of that about what the law says about the county commission's responsibility to to get this on a ballot that's what this that's the process here and I think this condition um uh has always had a policy that we will act according to the uh the resolution presented us by boards of education and any other entity that that's uh that that's appropriate count missions

And Mr. Morris is beating on my shoulder back there. There's a typo, I think, in the agenda. It's a 15 mil tax. That's in the resolution, though. What's a mil?

Oh, man.

It's a .001.

Have you ever seen a mil? Has anybody in here ever seen a mil? I've seen a mil. It was a little tin looking smaller little circle with a hole in it. What? Isn't that a mill?

A little bit before my time. I've seen a mill too, a cotton mill, all kinds of other mills.

My mother's got some mills.

Okay. I think, I think we grew up calling them tokens. One thing, one thing, one thing when you start talking about taxes, it can be confusing for people. Yeah. The mill is applied to the assessed value. I've seen some comments on Facebook, people saying this is going to be a $10,000 tax increase. That's not the way taxes work. You know, you would, you take the appraised value. Then you have the assessed value, which is greatly reduced for your single family homes, 10% assessed value. And then the mill is applied to the assessed value of the tax. And it would be, yes. And so one mill would be times 0.001, 15 is 0.015.

And just to, well, I can be clear and everybody can be clear. If the voters do pass this initiative, this money will stay in that particular mill.

Zone required by law to stay in, in, uh, in the zone and, and, and full disclosure. And, and we want everybody to understand it is a, it is an ad valorem tax. So it applies to real property and it would also apply to car tags and so forth. Like that's, that's part of the tax. Right. Um, but every single dollar raised by this tax is required by law to stay in Odenwald. And also, and this goes to the sort of the fundamental nature, how, school funding has changed in St. Clair County, the same constitutional amendment that requires all of this money to stay in Odenville. It also says the County Board of Education can't fail to appropriate money to Odenville because it passes tax. In other words, it can't supplant money it already provides. So this applies to Springville, it applies to Moody, Pell City. Well, Pell City is not in the county, so it doesn't, the County Board of Education, so it's not quite applicable. So the County Board of Education has to continue to fund the county operations and it can't withhold money in districts that have passed a tax on the theory that, oh, they've got plenty of money because they have this other tax. It cannot. It must continue to appropriate the money to the districts that have passed the tax. And then the districts that have passed the tax also get to keep 100% of the money that is generated from their tax. So it is, people say, wow, this is, you know, it is a change. It is absolutely a change. And- And as a result, it's brought a bunch of good improvements across the county, but it has changed the way the County Board of Education has to operate. And that's what's happened.

John, is Margaret going to be in that too, right?

Yes. So this is Odenville-Margaret. The amendment, the constitutional amendment calls it the Odenville District, but all the folks that attend the Odenville-Margaret area would be voting.

Some of them kids over at Margaret go to Sprangler, so that Springville was already applied to them. That already applies to them.

So Margaret is split. The Argo, the closer to Argo portion, they go to Springville and they already pay the 15 mill tax. So this and the millage would simply bring the rate to be the same as the Springville and Moody districts that this district touches.

Well, look at that. There you go. The way we're spending money, we're going to need all of it. I think there were depression here. They were actually, of course, now we don't have the pediatric. It's been declared. But yeah, I appreciate you explaining. That's Bateman math right there. That's not the closest to being correct.

I don't know if this is Bateman math.

I remember that. I remember hearing about that. One thing about Bateman math, it always moves us forward. But I appreciate you explaining the way that the millage is also assessed to an individual because somebody has a $300,000 home, that's the value they have in their mind. But that is definitely not the assessed value. Even if it's the appraised value, then the assessed value as a residential home is 10%. And as a commercial business, it would be 20%. So that's a big... it's a big difference in what somebody is going to have to pay in difference uh in increasing their taxes uh and it's for as i mentioned early on the our public school system our public schools and it's uh it's challenged y'all got a challenge keeping these public school systems operating under the way the government uh keeps moving the the uh funding target around for you. I know that. And not only that, I think we earmark some of the money you got. You got to spend it a certain way. You can't just spend it the way you choose to. And we're the same way. Part of our funds are assigned to certain things. So we have to count the money that we have. That's what we call unrestricted. And if we don't watch the legislature, literally, if we don't watch the legislature closely, then our funds get restricted more and more and more to how the legislature chooses to spend them. We are one of few counties in the state that has a one cent sales tax that we can spend in the general fund in any way the county chooses to. Some other counties have a one cent sales tax. A lot of counties have a one cent sales tax for schools. That's been in the law for years. But a one cent sales tax for a county that goes into general fund is extremely unusual in Alabama that goes into the general fund because most of them were passed by legislative act. We will, in some county X, can pass a one cent sales tax by their legislature And then the legislative delegation tells you how it span 1 3rd to the sheriff's department dot dot dot dot. So so we're pretty rare in this county that we, we put a 1 set sales tax in the general fund to go to words operation of the county. So there's a lot of things that influence how the funding goes in the individual counties. And without putting you on the spot, it's always been a question, I don't know whether you studied it up or not, but if you hadn't, study it and bring it back to us later. And if you can't, Mr. St. John may know, what kind of money do we get out of the Section 18, Section 16, Section School Land?

I'll study on that.

You know what I'm talking about? I know what you're talking about, but I don't know that. One section of land in Alabama, according to every township, was set aside to fund schools, wherever that section fell. Now, if it fell in the middle of a city, there's a whole lot of money value. It's a value.

Oh, man.

If it fell in the middle of a forested area in Coosa County, it didn't bring in very much. But I'd like for you to go back to the maps and look up school lands and see where it is now. Us county commissions and attorneys and big mule people at the turn of the century have pilfered it. There's not much of it left. That's a sign of scoops. It has now been bought up, and it's private owned. We have one section of land that joins Alabama Power at Springville, for instance. We call it state land. And it's a whole section up the side of that mountain. And the state lands division administers that, and it's leased out to hunting groups and that sort of thing. Then over on the other side of the county, near Hardwick Road, back in the woods, there's 20 acres left out of that section. That's all that's left. All the rest of it has been somehow or another transferred to private ownership over the years. Following the history of how the school lands got transferred out of one of the determining factors to finance schools is an interesting study. I've looked into this. All of us have allowed the system to pilfer public education money starting that fall back. It's not just a today thing. So y'all got a lot of work that y'all have to go through to make sure public education continues to be funded. Okay. I've pontificated enough. I'm trying to drag this out so I know so we can stay a little longer. I appreciate it.

We can charge by the hour. I knew this was billable hours.

They had to pay him by the hour. We had to pay us by the hour.

Kirk and I love it. We're costing our school system money right now. We're going to have to move on. Having said that, though... Let's move that up to take action now. And I have number one under due business. Consider adopting resolution 2026-35, calling an election in the Odenville School Attendance and Tax District for a 15 mil school tax pursuant to the request from the St. Clair County Board of Education. What? Entertain a motion from the county. Motion. I have a motion and a second. Properly moved and second. Any discussion or do I wear all that out? i appreciate y'all's resolution y'all just don't know how much we appreciate it when y'all bring us something like this and you put it on a regular ballot because there is no answer why did they put this on an august ballot that's cost us there's no answer for us why didn't y'all do this here at a regular election david always makes the point to ask that in favor uh because the citizens want to know why didn't y'all do this at a regular election well i'll just be honest and tell you why some sometimes we do it we try to keep some of y'all from voting so it has better chance for THAT'S NOT US. GENERAL ELECTION. BECAUSE THIS IS GOING ON A REGULAR ELECTION. GENERAL ELECTION IN NOVEMBER WHERE EVERYBODY WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS AND SEE THAT IT DOES GO TO EDUCATION TO IMPROVE THE EDUCATION QUALITY IN THE OLDERWOLF TAX DISTRICT. You got everybody listening to this. All in favor say aye. All in favor say aye. All opposed, no. Motion carried. Thank you once again. And y'all more than welcome to stay. If y'all want to stay here for another hour and a half, too. Thank y'all very much. Y'all would like to hear me talk about the other items, 1 through 27?

We'll see y'all.

Bill, we got this. I saw you taking notes. We do get a financial, when Danielle gives our financial statement answer question once a month. Yeah. It's got the Springville tax only where we see where that money is. Yeah. And then the Moody tax only. So, you know, every month where that answer that question and it's public and everybody knows and we'll have the same thing we're racking, right? So, just answer that question. Very good. Very good.

Thank y'all so much. Thank y'all so much. Okay, now moving on to the next item. Clay Phillips, county engineer. Come on up here and give us some information on one of our number one, well, depends on whether it's public safety or roads, but one of those is pretty well number one at which day we meet.

Okay. Number one in importance and expenses and all of the above. First item to go over is just want to bring you up to date on our crews and some of the projects. Our pavement crews have been in the District 2 area here in the last couple weeks. So Lazy Bee Lakes Community, Copper Springs Road Community, and they'll finish up that area today. or this week rather and then we'll get started on preparing for um paving some uh parking spaces in springville area and then uh our our base crew has been on kelly creek road uh continuing to get it ready uh for the uh safety widening project that's going to be late in september and of course uh the curb road us411 project is moving forward uh they were digging digging uh yesterday so they put in some good material and widen widen that road out all right number two is to consider an offer from Nextran, a Mack truck dealer, to swap our current six 2026 Mack Triaxles for new 2026s with next to zero time and brand new warranties. And what I propose is to consider it with further due diligence from Curtin, whether he approves it or not.

So we want to do this pending county attorney review. Yes. Thank you. Okay. When y'all heard the discussion we had in the work session and, you know, the automatic question that comes up is a good gracious. What's in it? What's in it for those people?

Well, and that's, that's the question that we put to a mission.

Speculation over the years has been, it allows them a method to get more trucks out of the factory into circulation. other than having to wait on an order. So that's the way that happened with one of the big heavy equipment companies years ago. Well, yeah, we give you all this deal because you use these things for a year or two years, and then you put them right back to us, and we give you what you paid for them, and then we carry them over to Africa and sell them for a markup. They're already built. Otherwise, they've got to wait until they get an order. to build these things in the factory. So this is a flow of equipment method that these companies like that have found out how to get more equipment into the marketplace without waiting on a particular order. And using government's automatic use of this equipment all the time, it seems to be one of the methods they've chosen.

Kirk, what is the issue you're looking at with regard to this item?

Well, it seems like we need to know what value they're assigning to our vehicles and, you know, in exchange so that we know if we're getting a good deal or not, if there's some issue that they, you know, if there's some reason other than what Chairman mentioned, you know, for...

I just like to make sure it's a true swap, not... Right. Sometimes you get lost in... some of the language. Right. And is it a true swap or is it costing us money? Right. And that's what I want to know.

Right. Whenever we purchased the vehicles earlier this year, the purchase was for chassis, you know, the running gear and the truck itself from this company that we're dealing with. And then the dump bodies was a separate transaction with another business. And so now we're, you know, it kind of Muddies the water a little bit. I just want to make sure that we know where we are in the deal. That's all. Thank you. Okay. Wasn't there a dollar somewhere?

I saw that.

As I understand, that's an examiner. Okay. Probably a state examiner's requirement. I got you.

Okay.

That was a way that another county had completed a similar transaction. I don't know for sure whether that's. whether we're headed that way or not.

And this is probably a good time for me to mention it to Clay, but I've met with a couple of within the county people that offer equipment or materials or even services when we get to it. And I got to thinking, the county commission is the procurement machine for the county government. In other words, the sheriff's has X number of vehicles. And usually he's the one that works the deals, but he brings them to us to approve or disapprove. The county commission, we could say, well, we're going to go to all these dealerships and work it out. We appreciate the sheriff doing that for us. But otherwise, we are the procurement entity. And within that discussion, we found out that some of the entities in some counties are buying automatically off the state bid list, for instance. Well, some companies are not on the actual state bid list, but they're in these buyers co-ops that's equivalent to the state bid list. And we want to be sure that we're giving all the benefit that we can to local companies, especially as our county grows and these companies get bigger. Where the county commission is in charge of procurement, we want to procure all that we possibly can from local entities. because we put a lot of investment in getting them here for one thing. So I talked to Clay about that, and I'll give you an example. We order pickup trucks, not just in the road part. We order pickup trucks in the sheriff's department. We order sometimes pickup trucks in the revenue office. We order some for our staff. If it's a company that has those trucks for sale on a bid list that's not on the state bid list, that would just say automatically we'll use the state bid list. If they're a member of these organizations, these automatic, what are they called? Co-ops, purchasing co-ops. And then I think all of us would agree we want to look at our local people first. Are you on a co-op? And can you offer us an equivalent deal? And somewhere in there, is there the 5% that kicks in? If you've got a local entity that's on a co-op and they are within 5% of the state bid, can't you buy from local? That's my question. So they don't have to be a lot cheaper. They can be right at it or even a little bit more. But we've already put a lot of money in causing them to be here. So I think the commission overall would don't think any of us say we don't want to buy from local if we possibly do that so i'm gonna i'm gonna try to look at a way to ramp up that we look at all those purchases as the procurement agent of the county county commission needs to be sure that we're doing that uh and i think you order some trucks with the service bid

Fred just mentioned the dump beds on the dump trucks.

Do we bid directly for aux and those kind of service bid bodies or is that done through the state bid list and how's that done? It's ACCA. So it's still, they bid through the,

The dump boxes are.

Some of them are red, some of them are black, and they're for different entities.

Right.

Okay.

It's a standard bed, so it's easy to do it that way.

But if you've got a company here that does, let's say, the service box, what's the name brand of some of these service trucks, boxes?

Not Oxide. What's that, Oxibody?

Oxibody. Oxibody is the dump box. Napide. Napide. That's one of the name brands. If you've got a company here that has a, a move-in deal with that company for beds, they may get it just as cheap, sometimes better than we can because they're buying in volume, and they put the bed on and we get a whole vehicle, bed and all, service vehicle. That's valuable to us too, especially if we've got a problem with those service beds. We've got hinges, locks. What if we need some kind of service on it? We can carry it down the street to somebody local. So that's why we want to pay some attention to procuring everything we possibly can from the local businesses. And we'll work on that together. But I don't think we've deliberately left anybody out. It took us a while to learn how to buy locally on the vehicles for the Sheriff's Department. We used to. We just couldn't get them shipped through locally. Well, we've found a way now by getting these people on these purchasing lists. So I appreciate you. This is a good time on these Mack trucks committing that whole process. so within that consider all from next strand swap current uh six six 2026 mac triaxles with new 2026 max or other trucks max and with uh very little time some of them zero time because they're brand new but whatever it is they come with a brand new warranty as if they have no mileage on so with that I entertain a motion to approve that offer. Motion. Second.

The county attorney's review.

The county attorney's review. Is that okay to put that in the motion? Okay. Any other discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed no. Motion carries. Okay.

Okay. Item number three is to consider signing a actually and or approving the town contract with Springville needed and that's to the the contract is to move in and blade, level up some parking spaces at some softball fields, sports fields over there close to Walmart in the Springville area, and then to put two coats of tar and gravel on it. Springville's portion of the agreement is $73,922.50, and St. Clair County's amount of the agreement is $12,450.

Okay, you've heard the recommendation from the county engineer on the spring project, entertain a motion to approve. 2nd, probably moved in 2nd, any discussion. I'll jump in there and discuss this and just to be. We promised 1 of the fire departments to do some work on a parcel. lands that only have one of those friendship. So we got one of those. And I didn't know whether we had that schedule how late how long down the road that's gonna be because I think they'd already ordered. We're about to order a building based on a certain price and make sure it's done within a timeframe.

Right. October, second half October is the earliest we'll be able to move in there.

Even considered we on four day week, we work weekends.

I have not asked for that yet. I can't if wishes to.

I think one of the concerns are, and y'all check on that. Don't need to act on that today, but to be something to find out is that late October going to affect contract they have on their building.

I was meeting with Ben Ivey with Good Game and Wayne and his son out there a couple weeks ago. And Ben indicated that they could go ahead and take delivery and it wasn't of the metal. And it wouldn't affect the price to the fire department.

Could we do it quicker if we did the weekend, Fridays and Saturdays? What, would it take a couple of weekends to put down I don't know what you've got to do out there. No, that's... Is that a bigger project?

There's going to be quite a bit of dirt work. Okay. It'll be more than two weekends. Two Fridays. And more than two... Fridays and two Saturdays.

I was talking about that'd be four days' work. I think it'd be more than four days. Is the dirt on site?

I think so, but we wind up cutting down and bringing out... What we bring out, we're going to have to repack. Okay. And...

Just didn't want to get over into affecting their contract with their building.

For a couple, two or three Saturdays or four Saturdays or Fridays and Saturdays, if it'd get us ahead, I mean, or get us back on level playing field.

I don't know why you wouldn't. It's rain. It's tough. Yeah. Look at that and see if there's a way to squeeze that in there. Let us know if it can't be, but it also doesn't affect the cost of their building their contract. I know they'd like to have it sooner the better so they can get inside and do their interior work and all that stuff. Right. But otherwise...

You're working with them anyway. Okay. And bringing that up, we're probably going to need one or two Fridays to finish the grading work around the new SWAT building. Okay.

And what about the Springville building? Is it going to take some extra work too? You got it worked into your everyday work? The spring will fall to the parking lots.

No, that's regular. We've got that worked in. Already worked in? Yep. Hopefully get it done next week. Start and finish next week, weather permitting.

Any other questions? You got this project back out here. We're going to put that other building. You still got to go out there and get some stuff out there.

When are we going to move that building over here? As soon as we get the place ready? I'll get with Patrice tomorrow and Jason, I think, at the parking over here about the shelter.

Set the gas meter so we can move that building. Get on with it. Okay. Be ready to move whenever we get.

Right over here.

we're moving building from over there moving forward in bell city to try to get that cleared out okay i'll get with the philip and we'll meet over there this week we're trying to indoctrinate you as county engineer here i think the consensus of the county commission was don't worry about the mule load away all right uh have a motion in a second any other discussion all those no motion carries to move on with the springboard project and the figures are in your files there.

Okay. Item number four is a consider agreement with Riverside to replace the pipe on Sprayberry Road. It's presently a deteriorated 48-inch pipe. We put in a new 60-inch pipe. Riverside's amount of the agreement is $16,910.42. and our saint claire county's portion is five thousand fifty nine dollars and sixty four cents okay have a motion okay probably moved in second any discussion on both sides i oppose no motion here okay number five is consider agreement with the town of old will to pave the town's portion of uh Hearst Road and Potter Lane. And this was a good time for us to get with Odenville because we have portions of both of those roads also and we want to pave our part. It was a good time to get in there and see if they would want us to pave their portion as well.

Great. Have a motion to approve that agreement. Second. Have a second. Promptly moved and seconded to approve the approval of Odebrecht. Odebrecht's amount be $57,055.64. St. Clair County's amount be $16,624.12. Do you have a discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Motion carried.

Okay. Number six, I'd like to consider approving a surveyor, Darrell Looker, to come in and locate the property line between the new Aaliyah building and the house adjacent to it, address 1816 2nd Avenue North.

Okay, that is the old new Z just building that we're, uh, uh, preparing for the, uh, Leah's driver's license people and, uh, have a motion to approve that agreement to get that property survey motion second property moved in second in the discussion. Once again, whenever we buy a property, we want to be sure that we have a good and current survey. That's what this will do. It may be on a plant with the city or whatever, but we need it surveyed with the corner pins marked and all that. Okay. Any other discussion? On both sides? Aye. Opposed, no.

Motion carries. Consider receiving and signing an approved agreement from the Federal Highway Administration for the SS4A grant that we brought before the commission about three or four months ago. We've got the agreement back from Federal Highway, and now the grant is to do a comprehensive safety plan with demonstration projects for St. Clair County and the municipalities within the county as well.

As you've heard, I have a motion and a second. Thank you. Promptly moved and second to approve the agreement from the Federal Highway Administration for the Safe Streets for All grant for comprehensive safety. The plan also includes some demonstration projects. Motion in a second. And discussion. Thank you, Candace Hill. This is another one of those projects she worked with y'all. Y'all worked a lot on it. But I really want to thank Candace. That's one of the kind of new areas that we've developed over the last couple of years, and she's been really engaged in this project. Right. Any other discussion?

Okay. Okay. Also consider My recommendation for awarding of a request for qualifications, it was 2026-40. Sent it out, and it was for engineering services for the SS4A grant project, basically to develop the comprehensive safety plan and design the demonstration, temporary demonstration projects as well. Motion.

So, my second property moved in 2nd, any discussion. What is the amount of this engineering services?

For the agreement with federal highway, it's to be 130,000. Okay.

That's for the agreement from the federal highway administration grant, right? Yes.

And my recommendation is saying and associates.

Okay, let's put all of that in there. Okay, that'll be all in that motion sign and associates request for qualifications. And thanks for working with us on the project. I believe the second in discussion. All those no motion kids. Okay.

Number nine is to consider recommendations to fill the following positions. Open positions. The first one is base crew foreman. Recommending Josh Bertram. The second one is the safety coordinator. Recommended Jennifer Bertram. The third item in the list is for equipment operator ones. Johnny Drummond, Jamie Blackburn, Hunter Brown, Chris Colley.

Okay, you've heard a recommendation from the county engineer. Have a motion?

And then the fourth item of this particular number nine is three road worker twos, recommending Dennis Watts, Jonathan Reynolds, and Lane Taylor.

Okay, now entertain a motion. So moved. Second? Second. Properly moved and seconded. You've already interviewed all these people and everything? Yes. Many miles to go before we sleep. There you go. I think that was Santa Claus. Who do you think it was? Doctor?

It sounded like it's cold all the time.

I think it was Santa Claus. I got a hip on that paper, by the way. Any other discussion? On both sides. Opposed, no. Motion carried.

Okay. Item number 10 is consider a utility permit application from APCO, Alabama Power Company, to shut down a small portion of Elko City Road on Saturday, July the 5th.

25th or 25th? 25th.

My apologies. I'm reading 25 on my sheet, but I said the 5th apparently. 25th. Saturday, July the 25th. July 25th. Okay. And they'll be replacing the three phase poles in that area. And there is from Florida Road northward to Pleasant Valley Grove.

Okay, you've heard the recommendation of the engineer. Consider approving this permit with Albion Power Company. Entertain a motion. Motion. Second? Second. Property moved and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed, no. Motion carries. I did jump off in there, but I've got to be sure it's in the record. They're providing all of the traffic control.

They are.

Okay.

And yes, traffic control. That's right. Their traffic control slash security is provided by... officers that are working for other entities and they do this on their report time. All right, item 11, consider approving a new license agreement with Diversified Computer Services. And the software is County Information Management Systems. The short version of that is SIMS. Pardon me. Let's see. covering enhanced capabilities of the SIEM software platform. The new agreement, we have two options, either to do one option, which is my recommendation is an immediate pricing change to be effective October 1. It'll be $1,000 a month. We presently pay them $750 a month. and with this option we get unlimited mobile user apps and also one terabyte cloud storage and we'll go to with the other option It'd be incremental over three years, and at the end of the three years, it'd be $150 a month. And then we'd only get 50 mobile user apps and 250 gigabytes of cloud storage. So in the long term, I recommend that it's more efficient and more pricing. It's better pricing to go into the first option, $1,000 a month.

Heard the recommendation of the engineer and sent a motion. Motion. Second. Property moved and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed no. Motion carries.

None. I'll send them a form stating what the ops we're going with and they will, in August, they'll send the agreement to be signed and to be effective October 1. So I'll bring the agreement back to you later. Item 12, consider a five-year term on contract for employment for Clay Phillips.

So, we just, as we discussed Wednesday work session, we do a 5 year contract, which is most of our contracts can be over 3, but for county engineer, they can be 5. That's traditionally the way we've done it with exception to 1. We put Dan on for a little extra time, did it for 3, but otherwise Dan was under a 5 year. We've traditionally done that. So would entertain a motion to have a 2nd, 2nd, that, uh, county engineer, Clay Phillips be under a 5 year contract. That will be. I think that June presented to this retroactive to June one. Yes, sir.

The contract was approved. It just was not stated 5 years. It wouldn't stay in a year at all. Yeah, it's just kind of clean up when it was already originally approved.

Good discussion on 1st, I know most kids.

Okay, uh, um, 13 is considered subdivision regulations for, uh, Sinclair County.

Okay, motion motion probably moved to second. Any discussion has been discussed in our has been discussed and discussed. It has been, um, as far as the 1st page with the items that for.

Clay and I went through his list, and then there were a couple of items for you all to consider if you all want to.

Do we need to make this pending the consideration of recommendations of the county attorney?

I think we've already done it.

whatever day we this is gonna start it right whenever the this copy is recorded with probate we'll have a certified copy that'll be recorded in probate what date I'd like to have it in there I'd like to have it in the minutes the date that it starts the 30 day starts 30 days should start from tomorrow

30 days from filing. Right. Or recording. It's recorded. Right. So if I file and record it today, then it'll start tomorrow. And that needs to be put out there.

It'll be time-stamped and all that.

Well, now it'll be on our website, and we'll have draft written across it anymore. If we want to, we can put a little caveat in there that, as required by law, the actual implementation of these regulations won't start for 30 days after recording. Just be sure the public knows when they start.

30 days from tomorrow. Assuming that it's recorded tomorrow. Yes, sir.

Yeah, David, we'll give you a particular date. Looks like tomorrow it'll be recorded. Starting tomorrow, 30 days. So if staff would count 30 days, put in a date, and on this date, the regulations go into effect. There you go. We need in our minutes. They start such and such date, not the day before, not the day after. They start on such and such date. Because we'd love to have some overlap in there, and we need to block any legal issues we've got there.

And another reason that that's important is the provision for subdivisions that are in the works that want to have their development considered to be grandfathered in. It would start the clock for that. It's written as 90 days. It needs to be put out there somewhere. Right. Once we have a recorded copy, I would imagine that it would be posted on the county website, the same as the draft version was previously. I'm not really interested in looking at our website.

Yes. Right. They'll be looking at it for sure. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Any other discussions? You got what all you need to put in there? So we got all the times and dates, et cetera, et cetera.

I'll get with you, Kurt. Good.

I'm ready to move on. All right. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed, no. Motion carried. You've already got subdivision regulations. Between you and Jeff Brown, he's on Bent Over Spring. We've got all roads and everything in the new district.

You've got four years, 11 months left.

I don't know what you'll get done. That's right. I don't know where we keep up with you or not. Any other questions for the county engineer? Moving forward here. Tina Morgan. Any administrators up next?

Got her reporting your file proposal in the amount of $5,340 ID capture, which will allow the invoices to flow into the capture system and transfer it into the direct. This is an amendment to the agreement, but it's not a budget amendment.

All right. Entertaining motion to approve? Motion. Second? Aye. Properly moved and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed? No. Motion carries.

Okay so item 19 on the agenda is to post a budget work session for July the 23rd at 9 a.m. in Asheville and our 1 o'clock work session will continue you know we'll start at 1. But we need to look at other dates to have our budget work sessions also. So can we add some additional budget work sessions to that date July the 28th? following the 9 a.m. commission meeting in Pell City, August the 6th, 9 a.m. in Asheville, before the one o'clock work session, and then August the 11th, after the 9 a.m. commission meeting in Asheville. All of these will be commission meeting work session dates already scheduled. Just place the budget work session on there. What's the normal date? Please go ahead and add it to your calendar. Correct. The only one in Pell City will be July the 28th. Gotcha. After the 9-8 Commission meeting.

Okay. Everybody good with that? I'm good. Yes. Great. Let's just move on and do that number 18 then. Consider posting work session dot dot dates there plus the dates that she just added. Have a motion. Motion. Second. Second. Proper move and second. Any discussion? You got all the dates?

Yes, sir.

All right. And we will post those dates.

uh properly so everybody will know we've got that going on okay um any other discussion all right okay item three is just an informational item to be recorded in the minutes the i.t manager glenn morgan or nathan smith to fill the vacant i.t tech position And then item four is informational to be recorded in the minutes. The school tax holiday runs from July 17th to the 19th. This is pursuant to Resolution 2018-49. That's our standing resolution for us to participate in the school tax.

And let's be sure that that's the school that says it on here, school sales tax holiday. Yes. Because we just got through discussing school upload tax. That's school. Okay, so I have chairman questions from the questions for our county administrator. Thank you. Missed it. Uh, county attorney, Kurt Walker.

Um. I'm pleased that the subdivision regulations are settled. Or at least the front end of it is settled anyway. I wanted to give you an update. I have communicated with one of the property owners about the Blair Farm sewer easement and they just need to talk with their family and make a decision about that. I don't know how the commission intends to proceed, depending on the outcome of their decision, but anyway.

If they tell us yes, we're going to proceed on. Right. Yes, sir.

So, when you say talking to family, that's the brother or sister?

I spoke with the sister, yes, sir. I hadn't been able to get in touch with the brother, but it would be a big help to us if we could do that. Right, yes, sir. For everyone on that right-of-way. Right. But anyway. And it'd benefit them as well. Right. Absolutely. Appreciate it. Yes, sir. And I just wanted to give you an update, too, that there had been some questions about the... bond money with the jail construction. I've reached out to the bond council about that. I'm expecting a call from him at some point today with an answer about the use of those funds. There was some question about how that might be used. So anyway, all right. That's all. Appreciate it.

Thank you. All right. Okay. And Kirk, we want to thank you especially for having some time. NOT EVERYDAY ITEMS ON THE AGENDA OF THE LAST FEW MONTHS. AND WE'VE BAPTIZED YOU BY FIRE. We appreciate your extra work and burning the midnight oil to get some of these things done. I'm afraid to say what that bill is. But as fast as this county is moving, I'm not sure what it will be. I don't know what the next one will be, but I'm sure there will be one. There's something around the corner that we'll have to take some action on. I'm going to put one on your plate now. County Commission years ago appointed an airport authority to design, build, maintain, operate an airport in the county. A little bit later on, action of the County Commission transferred ownership of the land to the airport authority. Kind of caught up with how that all happened over the years. So the airport authority owns the land, but the county commission, it's the county's board. I think there's some nexus between liability at that airport between the county and the airport still. It's still ours. We created the board. And an airport has some liability. That was our fault. We pumped fuel in a plane that had water in it. Okay. Are we completely, this is a rhetorical question. This is something I want you to look at. Are we completely away from that connection or not? And if we're connected, that's kind of why for years the county commission, association of county commissions, liability insurance program, burns liability with a rider-owner policy for airport insurance. several years ago that was removed from the association of counties liability insurance program y'all may remember but it wasn't just removing airports it was removing all smaller entities the only the only thing left on the county liability insured program uh is counties Our county commission, our government, and one other entity, Association of County Commissions of Alabama. Everything else that was listed on there for liability, and there were some. For instance, there was some kind of local transportation authority that some county, for instance, had a ferry. Got a little crazy down there to liability to insure a ferry. It was running across the river with a 1948 hit and miss engine with a cable on it. and you carry people across that might be dumped in the river. So anyway, I remember that discussion from a long time ago. That was just one. But that same discussion now is what caused the Association of Counties in-house that we own part of, the Association of Counties Liability Insurance Program, does not furnish liability insurance for airports anymore. Now, within that, with some cost to the counties that have airports, it's just hidden in our fees for our policy, our overall policy cover. But when we took the airport out of that policy, they had to go out and get their own insurance in the private marketplace. I don't know whether they're getting the best rate. I don't know. That's not the question. The question is, and I favor it, is the county should still be included in some form of funding for that liability policy. Now, I think we already are. We agreed several years ago to give the airport authority all of the tax money collected out of the personal property tax on our ad valorem tax years ago. We sort of changed that around. Now we give a fixed amount, though. How much do we give the airport? How much? I think it's 20. So if we went back and looked, though, at the, I believe it is. It was 20. Yeah. So we think it is, but did we not give it to them this year? Well, we took it out because of the conflict a little bit about whether or not we had access to the airport. It put a hanger out there for the sheriff's helicopters at our airport. So we're trying to work on a relationship back with the airport authority, but in that same relationship, the airport authority has to understand there is some nexus. There's some connection. And the facility, not just if it's part of our liability, then there's part of a connection. So we won't we don't want any more discussion about whether or not it'd be good for us to put a hanger out there. Our airport and at some point in time, a vote of 3 to 2 people here. I think could take the property back, put it in the name of the county, which used to kick. I think that's the kind of things I'd like you to look into. What's the connection between Sinclair county government? And the airport. Now, let's just say we give the airport authority $20,000. What is the collection now of the personal property tax on airplanes? It was considerably more than that. And one reason it dropped down to $20,000 was because of this discussion, we're not as connected as we once were. So there's some money in there that we're collecting on airplanes, I think, that could help go towards, let's just say we split the cost of their liability insurance policy 50-50. If we do that, we'd like to know where their policy is coming from so we know we're not paying somebody $100,000 for a policy that we could have got for $20,000 somewhere. It's not that much. Our policies averaged around $2,500 for a policy to cover our airport back when all this changed. So we're not talking about lots of money. But we are talking about that's one of the things that connects us back to the airport. We'll share in the cost of your liability loans. I think there was some, as time goes on, there's not any discussion and not any understanding between a new board and what happened. There's no history.

So the history of a new board was somewhat, county commission took this money away from us, so we're not going to let them put a hanger out here either.

They took our insurance away. We didn't take anything away. That was done through the Association of Counties Liability Insurance.

And I worked with the association at the time on the

Yeah.

Insurance. I mean, I didn't work with them, but I talked with them about the situation. But did we have... When it was removed from... Right.

But we probably just removed it and sent them a letter.

And they was a... They was on the ACCA insurance... Right. ...as a additional carrier. Right. And then... All over the state. I've got notes about all that. Okay.

We got all that, and that was properly done. What I'm saying is there was probably not a meeting with some minutes that... County Commission didn't do that. The Association of Counties did that. And at that time, it would probably have been good for the county to have the discussion I just had. We have some connection to the airport. We would like for your insurance to be good. We have an interest in your liability insurance. For sure. That's what I think. If we do, then we pay for our interest. So 50-50 split on whatever it is. I don't know what the policy is. But we need to know that kind of thing. A new group comes in over a period of time. We appoint people. We didn't have this particular discussion. They don't know. All they know is the county took their insurance coverage away from them. Well, we want the whole story in writing somewhere that can be passed on to the next groups as they come in. No, this is what happened. Go look back at the minutes on such and such date. So when we get that in there, we'll close that little Well, the county took our insurance back from us. I don't even think we did. The association of county did, but it's so far back, nobody has a history of that. So I think we still have a connection and that's the kind of thing I'd like for you to report back to us at some point in time. Yes, the county government formed that board and we still have some liability for what happens out there. So that doesn't sound like very much, but it definitely is going to help us with our Okay. And that's pretty much what I had, other than my statement on procurement. Oh yeah, while I'm in here too, we've got a representative here from the Coosa Riverkeepers.

I appreciate the opportunity to kind of sneak in here. Thank you, Stan.

We've been dealing with you quite a while, so we appreciate you being with us.

I just wanted to give you kind of a report on what we're doing, and a lot of this is background stuff you may not be aware of, but it's all going on in St. Clair County. Before I get into that, this is a very, very important event that we're having at the Pittman Theater in Gadsden. I know it's in Ottawa County, but this has to do with the... PFAS, P-F-A-S, which is a forever chemical that I know has been an issue for Coosa Valley Water Supply. Yes. And it's something that originated in Dalton, Georgia, in the carpet industry. And this documentary was done by Public Broadcasting System. And it goes through the whole history of how this And they call this a forever chemical because it does not break down naturally. So once it gets into your body, it's accumulative. Unfortunately, it's everywhere. It's not just the water, but it's also nonstick cookware. A lot of repellents. That's how it got into the carbon industry was being used as scotch guard of stainless steel. But pitman theater, Next Tuesday, I'd appreciate elected officials being there if you could, because it's something that has to do with all of us. It's not just a localized thing. I'm lucky to be here this morning. I know St. Clair County is blessed with shoreline on two lakes and a river channel between them. Kind of a unique situation. We've been doing our water testing and over a six week period, We test the course at different sites than Newly Henry and Logan Martin. And if you watch those swim guide alerts, which are available on our website, or we post them every Friday at Facebook Live at noontime. We have a representative of our hired help over the summer interns that we get go out Thursday and collect the water samples. and come in Friday and process them. And then at noon time on Friday on Facebook Live, we give you the red, green, yellow alert. And you'll find there's been a lot of red alerts, primarily because of the rainfall. Usually when we get a lot of rain, we get a lot of runoff from agricultural fields. It's a boost that you call on.

Don't get that report from him. I'll get it. It's got the little, tells where the testing places are and what they, we didn't have very

Some places had quite a challenge. Wet weather just induces runoff, and that's big for the eco one. We had a very successful what we call the Coosa River Ramble, which was a paddleboard and kayak race at Lakeside Park in Pell City, and this was good for tourism and hospitality because it brought in over 100 people came to watch it. We had 55 racers that actually entered on it. So again, you know, you're looking at St. Clair County boosting tourism, recreation, and that type of thing, which we're very much in favor of. And I'm also collecting information on data centers. I know this is something that I'm not sure how it's going to affect us. I'm hoping not. But if you're interested at all, I have a great report that Southern Environmental Law Center did that looks at all the aspects of data centers. I know this is going on around us. Pretty scary stuff, really. And the covertness and mystery beyond all these, I think it's important that we all be aware of it. But if you're interested, I can pass this on. Any questions?

Questions for Richard? Thank you, sir. Richard Ribka has been with Goose Riverkeeper for a while now, and I tell you, we try to keep up with that subject, with the subject of water quality, air quality, soil quality. Without Without getting crazy, that's just the way I'll put it. Some of these things really get crazy. And I want to thank you and the Coosa Riverkeepers as such as having a common sense approach to this without just shutting down. To give you an example, several years ago, we were really pressured in this county to join the Upper Cahaba. and we never would formally join the people that were doing this it was a semi-governmental agency was doing this and and we never did join it because we wait a minute here with this this doesn't sound like it's going to be a benefit to us sure enough the push was one of the ways to claim that a lot of things had been done would be to restrict development on the upper upper development of the Cahaba River out of Springville so that people downstream in other counties could claim we cleaned up the Cahaba River. And so I was always glad we didn't join that effort because that wasn't all the truth. We wouldn't dump anything in it to begin with. And we've been very careful with things. We are very aware of our rare and endangered species. We know what all of them are. Are county engineers aware of where the leather plant is that we have to be aware of when we do things? And we have a study done on our projects to make sure that we've got all that done. And I want to thank Coosa River Keepers. It's very important on the river for things like the PFAS. That's a big thing at Coosa Valley Water. Right now, we don't pump out of the river directly. goes on in that area. Because these things can be taken over by some fairly radical, noisy people that don't present all of the ramifications. You can shut down development pretty quick over something that might be manageable. Thank you for doing that. Your people have really made that agency a friendly agency to deal with because we're all aware of the importance of keeping the Coosa River clean. That's a big thing for us.

We're very, very much involved in water quality and looking at source water being pulled off the Coosa. This is a big issue because there are many water companies that actually use that service water. And the cost of having to process it, I mean, we're looking at ways to protect the water before it gets to the intake and make sure that it's as clean as we can get it before it's processed in the water department, in the water company. And again, PFAS is very expensive to filter out. So it's an issue, but it'd be very informative if you can come.

I think all of you have an announcement on that. Any questions for Richard from any of you? I appreciate it.

Thank you.

Appreciate you. Okay, moving on now. District 1, Commissioner Brown.

I'm good. All right.

District 2, Commissioner Parker. I'm good. Commissioner Joyce Stevens, District 3. Nothing to report today. Commissioner Mize, District 4. I'm good. All right, moving along. Now moving on to old business. There is no old business to consider. Moving on to new business item number one has already been, that's what we did. Already been taken care of. That was the resolution for school board number two. Consider rescheduling. We did that one, didn't we? Okay, consider rescheduling Thursday, August 20th work session and Tuesday, August 25th commission meeting to Thursday, August 27th, 9 a.m. Pell City Courthouse. And the work session will begin at 9 a.m. following the committee meeting. Scheduling is due to the ACCA annual convention. Motion. Second. Make these state changes. Any discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed no. Motion carries. Item number three. Consider rescinding the agreement with CMH architects for professional services to provide plans and costs for a potential addition to the jail. It was approved on June the 9th. We took some official action there. This would rescind that official action, give us some wiggle room to move on. I have a motion to rescind that. Motion. Second. Properly moved and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed no. Motion carries. Item 4, consider adopting Resolution 2026-36 for Susie Washburn and Resolution 2026-37 for Corey Phillips to receive designation of certified county administrators. That is a process that we go through. They get their certification, but the county commission has to check off that it's okay with us to be designated in that capacity. Both of y'all have already completed all your certifications. Still got some left. So this would give you the designation then of a certified county administrator. Okay, have a motion? Motion. Second? Second. Properly moved and seconded. Any discussion? Thank y'all. Appreciate what y'all did.

We appreciate it.

We have great staff.

Yes, we do.

all righty on their side i'll oppose no motion carries item five certain recommendation sheriff mayor to award rfp 2026-38 food service suppliers for the jail to summit foods have a motion so second second i'll be moving in second any discussion i think we've got information from philip already on that you're everybody's good there okay Any discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed no. Motion carries. Item six. Suit request probate Judge Andrew Weatherton to transfer the following assets from probate court to the mental health office. You see those. It's a printer. Looks like a couple of printers. Scanner. Two or three printers. So you see the items there. Entertain a motion to authorize that request. Have a motion. Second. Second. Probably move to second. Any discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed no. Motion carries. Consider request probate Judge Andrew Weatherton to transfer an HPZ2 workstation computer, we have the inventory number, from the probate court to the mental health officer at the jail. Have a motion? So moved. Second? Probably moved and second. Any discussion? From the web discussion, anytime we have any items that can be used in another area, instead of just putting those on the disposal list and getting rid of them, we see if there's somebody else that can use them. This will transfer those over to entities that can use them. On favor say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Item 8, suit request probate Judge Andrew Weatherton to surplus and dispose of a monitor. You've got the inventory number. I have a motion. Motion. Second. Properly moved and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed no. Motion carries. Item 9. Suit request trade name Dollar General Store located at Mountaintop Loop. Did we hold that? Have we tabled that one?

No. Then we need a motion to table it per our policy.

Motion to table. Second? Second. Properly moved and seconded. No discussion. All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed no. Motion carries. Item 10. Serial contract with Spire for the installation of a gas line and meter to the EMA operations building in the amount of $1,985. We spent more than that in Commissioner's time out there looking at that project. Glad to move that on. Any other discussion? All in favor say aye. All those no. Motion carries. Item 11. Consider awarding RFQ for the county's appellation regional commission ready grant ready grant to grow project grant management to quid o'brien there are formal grant writing people and this is also something been coordinated by candace hill have a motion to approve motion second property moved to second any discussion all in favor say aye all opposed no motion carries out of 12. I request Sheriff Murray to renew the employment contract for Ed Brasher. We have a contract with him for employment. I have a motion. Motion. Properly moved and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. All opposed no. Motion carries. Item 13. So we request Sheriff Murray to install a one-ton, mini-split HVAC unit in the control room of the jail at an estimated amount of $16,255. And that would be a, did we say that would not include a?

It's going to come from the 116. So we've got it out of the 116 fund.

Doesn't have to be a budget amendment. Have a motion? Motion. All those no, motion carries on item 13. Item 14, consider approval to renew the ACCA Liability Self-Insurance Fund property program for one year in the amount of $393,553.52. The renewal period is from July the 1st to July the 1st of 2027. Have a motion to approve. So moved. Promptly moved and seconded. Any discussion? We have discussion. I don't have the figures with me, but we've got over $100,000-something back in our refund we get back, which we never got out of the private market. But we do get that since we own that, and we're graded on our ability to keep things safe and keep down the liability lawsuits and all that. And based on that, this county's been very fortunate with a lot of work to get some money back every year. So have a motion and a second, any more discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. 15, suit request from MA Assistant Director, Charity Mitchum, to apply and accept, if awarded, the Alabama Department of Public Health FY27 Cities Readiness Initiative grant. I have a motion to approve that request. I have a motion. Second. Second. Second. Any discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Item 16, suit request Sheriff Murray to work with Candace Hill and Will O'Brien, LLC, to apply for a Department of Justice grant Bridging immigration-related deficits experienced nationwide called the Biden program. And before we move on with the motion in a second, let's be sure we understand. It says 100% match. Does that mean we match it 100%? No. It's 100% grant. It's a 100% grant. So scratch out match, 100% grant. Okay. In fact, to even make it clearer, put no match.

Yeah.

There we go. So moved. We have a motion and a second. Second. Promptly moved and seconded. Any discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. Motion carries. Water break. Item 17. That was on Clay's report. Yes. Item 17, that has to do with the marking the line, surveying the line over at the That's what we'll be calling it. At some point in time, it's our building. Do we have a contract yet? As soon as we get a contract, I'd like for us to get Rodney and them to put similar writing on the building on that street side, back street side, that says Dash driver's license. What it is, where it is, etc. So we need to get that building marked. I noticed it taking the sign off of it. So when we get all that done, we'll get that taken care of. And where are we on brush removal and cleaning up that lot, Clay? That's the lot for Aaliyah. The Aaliyah property in Pell City. Where are we on getting that ready for us? Put it in the parking lot there.

We should be able to get it hopefully done week after next. That crew will be in Springville next week. Okay. Very good. We're moving along.

We're a little bit ahead of Aaliyah, which is the main goal here. We don't want to not be ready when Aaliyah's ready. Okay. Commissioners, if you hadn't been by there, go by and look at it and make sure it's laid out like you like it and like it makes sense to you. Okay, good. Work session posting, we did that. Consider travel request. You've got a copy of the travel request in your files. Anytime you want to approve those. Second. Probably move and second. Approved the travel request. All in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed no. Motion carries. Consider board appointments. Do we have any board appointments at this time?

I'm going to save this one. Where I'm supposed to be reappointed, we'll save it. We've got to start saving some of these board appointments I'm getting. There you go. How many board appointments do you have? How many board do you have?

I don't know. At least two. Well, I want at least two. So yeah, we need to save some for the new person. Or we just keep giving them to you. I know, that's what I'm praying for.

This expires in August, so she ain't coming. She don't come on board in November. I guess we can hold it over until then. We can hold it over for another year anyway. There you go.

I don't think we have any to do at this time. Consider payment of the regular bills. You've got a copy of the regular bills as opposed to the irregular bills. I have a motion we pay the bills. Second. Property moved and seconded that we pay at least $2,734,326.93 on this one, and then the special run, just another $5,000. So I have a motion and second to pay those bills. Any other discussion? All those in favor? Aye. All those in favor? Aye. Next item is a motion to adjourn. Do I have a motion to adjourn? So moved. Thank you. Second, no commission for being here today and being so actively involved in putting up.