Town Council - Regular Meeting

I think we're close enough. Welcome to the Springdale Town Council meeting. Today is Wednesday, March 11th, 2026. We're at the Canyon Community Center in Springdale, Utah. The time is 5:00 pm. Uh with us from the town, we have Kendall Sagers, Tom Dany, and Robin Romero. On the dis from council, we have Pat Campbell, Randy Eton, me, Barbara Bruno, and Jack Burns. Kyla Topam is excused tonight, and we will start with the pledge of allegiance. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

Entertain a motion to approve the regular meeting agenda. I move we approve the agenda. Second motion by Randy and second by Pat. Brandy Barbara and um are there any general announcements? We do have several general announcements. I think first Ryan has some announcements that he would like to give the council.

Quite a few things this month. Uh first off, we have a blood drive that'll be Monday, March 16th. So that's next Monday here at the community center. We're switching things up. We're going to start it at 8:00 a.m. instead of the afternoon. So, we'll go from 8:00 a.m. to midday. I think 12 or 1. Uh, as always, welcome walk-ins are welcome, but people are encouraged to sign up at redcrossblood.org. Um, on Friday, March 20th at 1 p.m., we have a tumbleeed cleanup down at the river park. Um, and uh, special thanks to Council Member Burns for helping put that all together, but it should be a good good time. Um, on Wednesday, March 25th, uh, we'll be celebrating Rick's retirement with an open house. That'll be here in this building, uh, from 3 to 5:00 PM. Once again, that's Wednesday, March 25th. There will be some refreshments and some, uh, socializing, I guess. Uh, two days later, we're going to be having an open house for Tom, a welcome and meet the town manager here, same room, same building at 1:00 p.m. Also, there will be refreshments at that as well. And then last, um, we have Zion Chalk and Earthfest. This is next month, but we're just trying to get word out, um, that we are at a new location. Uh, for the last three years, it's been down at Zion Canyon Village. This year, it's going to be here up on the field and here at the community center. Um, so we hope that people will turn out for that. Um, that's on April 18th and 19th.

Ryan, where would the where try this again. Where will the chalk art be on the this back parking lot? Oh, okay. Going off the parking lot. So, we'll have the chalk art here. We'll still have festivities up on the field with music and food and drink and some vendors. So, be a lot of fun. And you're not going to announce the St. Patrick's Day event because it's not a town event. Huh. It's not worth No, I'm just kidding. No, it's not our event. But could you just mention it because we've got people that might not Sure. Absolutely. Make sure I remember when it is. You want me to announce it?

You want to announce it? It's next Saturday, right? Yeah, we have the St. Patrick's Day parade on Saturday the 21st and then there will be festivities up here on the ball field. Yeah, it's the only St. Patrick's Day event in It's only St. Patrick's event in Washington County. So, it's kind of fun. It's uh the 21st the parades at 2 pm and then they'll have live music and food trucks and a beer garden and festivities, green jello sculpting contest and all kinds of things going on at the ball field. So, okay, any other questions? Okay, thanks. Any other general announcements?

Um, two other announcements. Um, they're both regarding community surveys, and we know how much everyone loves to fill out community surveys, and so now we've got two available for you to get your survey fixed. Um, the first is the Utah State University Well-being Project Survey. The town participated in this two years ago and we got some really valuable input and feedback from the community about um the community's perceptions of well-being in Springdale. This is a a survey that Utah State University puts together and they distribute this to communities across the state. And so we get to see how we compare to other communities. And this will be interesting this year because we took the same survey two years ago. So, not only will we be able to compare how we um how how we comp or see how we compare to other communities, we will be able to see how we compare to our results from two years ago. So, please get the word out. Please um take that survey and it will be important to uh to get those results. The second survey that is currently open is the survey on the um messaging initiative. This is a is an effort that the town's messaging committee is putting together to create some unified messaging for visitors that also um kind of um helps to unify residents around the town's identity and and how what we would like to message to visitors about the town when they visit the town, how to be respectful visitors. There was a great presentation on that a couple weeks ago. If you missed that, there's a link to the presentation on the town's website that you can review and then also give us your feedback in a survey about um this initiative. So, if you have not already, please take those two surveys. I should note that the Utah State University well-being survey is only open to residents of Springdale. So, you have to live here to take that survey. The second survey is um is a community survey. So any member of the

community is is is able to take the messaging committee or the messaging initiative survey.

The Utah State University well-being survey closes on March 31st. Anything else? That's it. Okay. Um, Superintendent Bradybot, do you want to give us an update on Zion National Park?

Good afternoon. Beautiful day here in the canyon for sure. Well, we've had great weather um all through uh February, which is reflected in our um monthly visitation s um uh results. And um we could certainly use some more preip. I'm sure our fire professionals would appreciate that. uh wildfire risk is pretty high, but uh attendance-wise um for this February um just completed uh we're up 8.3% above February last year. It's pretty significant. 177,700 plus visitors. Um, and year to date, uh, we're up about 5.35%. Again, you know, we've had very mild January and February. And, uh, while visitation wasn't, you know, at at the summer scale, it was certainly pretty pretty busy for the winter period. Um, couple of project notes. um our south campground uh restoration project that's getting nearer and nearer to completion. Few items left to work on that. We're probably looking at um a late May uh opening to the public. That's for South Campground. Then as you know um we were working on our first phase of our sewer line project up the canyon and uh that was completed um here back in October the second phase or we're going to go from um from the grotto to the temple of Sinowava

um that's in engineering and design right now. Um we think we may be able to get started on it uh this coming summer. Uh so just a few months out. Um we've got a few funding things to uh to pull together. Um funding is coming from the state of Utah as well as a Zion Forever project and uh we're working on a a potential um uh grant as well. um through Senator Curtis's office. So, we're trying to pull those disperate pieces of funding together um as we're working on the engineering and design. So, um that's an important uh project for public health and um we really do want to get that one done. So, yeah, be happy to answer any questions.

What will the reservation system be for the South Campground? Will that be a reserve only or will that same as it's been? Yep. It's on recreation.gov. It's It's a reservation. Yep. Is it open a year in advance? Yeah, I'm not sure. Well, it'll open as soon as we know for sure what the opening date um is going to be. So, we've kind of had that shut down during the construction period. So, as soon as we can nail down um you know, when we're pretty darn sure it's going to be open, then we'll open the reservation system. But yes, you can apply up to a year ahead. Yep.

Yeah. Go. Yeah. You're talking about the chain link fence for the construction. Yeah. When everything's done, then we'll pull that. That's going to be the last thing. It's going to actually be in the road most of the way because there isn't much shoulder to work with. So,

y' be pressurized uh systems pumps along the way. Y will they be doing the same thing with the traffic lights? Yeah, traffic control all the way along. Yep. Thank you. Are there any questions or comments about the council reports? I do have a couple of additions. Okay.

So, uh first off, I report on fireboard the didn't know if we were going to have a meeting in March or not. And we are now. It's going to be March 18th. The county commissioners have finally named the uh the other fireboard members. So, that will be March 18th. And then on the community renewable energy, I reported that uh the public service commission had not approved ours and Rocky Mountains application for our program and now they have. They approved it March 4th and that starts the time clock and I' I've sent you all a copy of the ordinance, but that starts the time clock for each municipality in the fire in the renewable energy program to pass a final ordinance uh adopting the program and becoming part of the program. the U Tom forwarded uh the ordinance, the draft ordinance that we have uh to Greg and I think uh tomorrow there will be a uh attorneys meeting, a Zoom meeting for the attorneys of the municipalities to talk about this ordinance because there was some um some things that we proposed in the ordinance. Um, and and I think John Goodwin from uh Greg's office is going to be in on that Zoom meeting just to kind of give Springdale a voice. But we will we have to uh that 90-day window closes on June 2nd. So, we will have to pass that ordinance by June 2nd. And uh once we go

through this attorney's meeting uh and we get kind of the ordinance to where we feel comfortable and our attorney feels comfortable for it, uh I want to try to put it on the April agenda to get this ordinance passed so that we we have it we have it done and and you all have seen a copy of the ordinance. It's it's one that's been drawn up and That is it. Mayor, I have two things.

First up, and I'm sure that what wasn't just the chief, but I'm sure Rob was also involved. If you haven't uh seen or heard about the generator that the chief has put in um actually supplies power for this building and town hall, not the library. So, bring a reading light. Uh but it's up and running. Um and it's really compact, really well hidden. uh noise level is way down. Um and secondly, in conjunction with that, working with uh Tom and Rick on the emergency management preparation, which I we're shooting for August, perhaps uh some tabletop exercises um and some ICS briefings for town staff. Still hasn't been firmed up on the calendar, but it's in the works. We have some representatives from Hurricane Valley Fire here. They don't have a presentation, but if any of you have any questions, we could let you ask those now. Okay. So, the next item on the agenda is a presentation by Lori Wright. Lori is the CEO of Family Healthcare. And Lori, you're welcome to come up and talk to us. Presentation. Yeah. No. Um I talked to um Rick this week and so I'm just going to do a pretty casual presentation but open to any questions that you might have. Um I first want to just introduce Family Healthcare. Um we're a 501c3. We've been around since 2002 and um we serve a lot of Washington County as well as Iron County. And last year we served over 18,000 patients. We did about 67,000 visits. and we do a lot of different kinds of care and some of those we do out here in Springdale and some we don't but you're welcome if you're a patient to come and get those

services anytime. Um out in Springdale we provide medical and we do some behavioral health work for Zion National Park. And then in our other clinics we also do dental we have some psychiatry services optometry and um trying to think what I'm missing and dental. So, um, we're thrilled to be in, um, out here working in Springdale. And I think just to answer a few questions that I've heard and then absolutely happy to answer more. Um, as we do our work out here in Springdale, I think it's been was kind of an answer to a question of who was going to run the clinic after the McManons left and wanting to do that because we feel so strongly about community service and community partnership and wanting to make sure that this community continued to have access to health care as well as serving the tourists that come and go from Zion National Park. So, it's it's both for sure for us. And and over the last two years, we've seen a steady growth in the number of people we're serving, including residents of we look at it from um Springdale, Rockville, and Virgin is how we kind of count residents for the area. And we started in 2023, we were open like four weeks and we saw eight people, which was amazing. And then in 2024 people, these are residents. Um we saw 175 and in 2025 we saw 180. And already in 2026 we've seen um 80. So that's quite a few. And then of those we saw quite a few encounters. So those 180 that saw us in 2025 they completed almost 500 visits. So each of them are coming just like we would expect them to come multiple times is that's generally how we do healthcare is see people um for a basic visit and then we see them for subsequent visits. And so, and then I don't know if if

you're interested, but the majority of the patients that we serve that aren't from um this community are really from people that are all over the United States that don't live in Utah. So, of those in 2025, we saw over 304. And um that is kind of what you would expect from a national park being part of this community. And then I think also regardless of um different different things I think I know we have limited hours here in Springdale but we are open Monday through Saturday in our St. George office and we're open Monday Tuesday um Thursday Friday in in um hurricane and we see a good many of tour not tourists sorry residents in both those clinics. So we saw 79 in um of the residents in our hurricane visit in visit hurricane clinic and 64 in our St. George and many of those are establishing care there and coming continuously. And so we know that um that there's a variety of different reasons why people might travel to Hurricane or to St. George, but we're excited mostly to be able to do that here in um out here in Springdale town. I think the other thing to think about is we are in a very limited building right now. It's very small for what we're doing. It is. I have providers sitting in weird spots doing notes and it's very hard to keep that continuity that if there were to be well there are days when it's just busy and it's hard to see the patients fluidly and efficiently and it slows down the whole process. And then I think one other question I've been asked is why we're not here on weekends and why we're not here late.

And some of that has to do with who I have to hire to put here. So providers um whether they be a nurse practitioner, a physician assistant or phys or a physician, they really require an enducement to work those extra hours. And I'm already paying them to travel their time to travel into Springdale without them seeing patients. And if I kept them here late or on Saturdays, I would have to pay them more. In fact, my Saturday clinic in St. George, I have to pay them double to do that clinic. And the reason why it works for us is I have a grant that helps us offset some of that cost. But we also see 36 patients in six hours. So, it's a very busy urgent care visit, visit, urgent care clinic. So, um, and then the other questions I'm hearing a lot about are pharmacy. So pharmacy is many different things to family health care and one of them is the best way we know how to help patients get access to medication and we have a program that helps anyone who's our patient get access to really discounted medications but it also just helps with continuity of care regardless right so if I see someone and they're a provider sees someone and they're diabetic and they don't have access to insulin or it's hard to get to their strips or their pump supplies supplies, it's hard to continue to take care of them. So, having a pharmacy on site um really helps with that continuity of care. We've seen at our St. George site as well as in Hurrican as we've openies. We've seen um people do better on outcomes, but also they're just happier because they don't have to go to another spot after to get their um prescriptions. And we work really hard to make sure that if we're seeing you in clinic that day, you're not waiting very long to get that prescription. It's we work really hard to make sure it's

within 20 minutes of you coming. And usually that's pretty fast turnaround because that's electronically coming to us and it takes a minute sometimes to get to us. But our pharmacy um in Hurricane does about a hundred prescriptions a day when they're open. And that's enough to help us not only take care of all those patients, but there's some revenue that we make there that helps us take care of our patients and hurricane even better. So, it's a win for both. Um, out here in Springdale, I know initially, as long as I've been talking to people in Springdale town, the pharmacy has been something that's I have heard is of interest to the community. And so, having enough space to do a pharmacy is, I think, a critical piece. And one other thing that I think I'm hearing a lot about is behavioral health need. And while I don't always have someone here there, the idea of having space so that we could bring someone here, I think it's really important as we think about the overall needs of the community. And we see all kinds of behavioral health needs from depression to anxiety to substance use disorder and all kinds of things. And we're we're normal humans, so we all kind of have ups and downs and needs for those things. Do you have any other questions for me?

So, right now we're open Monday and Friday and then during the um starting in April, we'll go Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday. Lauri, you mentioned that you have behavioral health available for employees of Z National Park in a bigger building. Would you have that available to members of the community as well?

So, it's a unique situation with Z National Park because they're paying for those visits whether we see patients or not. So it's um and that is through contract and it's worked really well and most of the time I think I think David's the superintendent is still here so he knows between 85 and 90% full and he's seen a lot of their um employees and I would be happy to do something like that if I knew what kind of utilization we were going to have and um I am almost always open to talking about well I am always open to talking about It's an opportunity for the town to win as well as us to win and making sure it's mutually a win. Um, if there was some way of knowing like if I could put another half day of behavioral health out here and it would be full, then we would be out here. For me, it's a lot about utilization and the cost of that utilization or lack thereof. in if you were in a different building, would we expect to still see the same days of operation including no service on weekends?

Yeah, I think so. There's a couple of things in play there. And yes, you probably would unless I or the town and I could come to some kind of agreement where there was some help with inducement because bringing someone out here on Saturdays where I'm paying, you know, this isund if it's a nurse practitioner, it's $130,000 employee and then I'm doubling that um to have them be here. And if they're not seeing a lot of patients and I'm not making any revenue. So I am completely open to discussions with the town. if you feel like that's vital, you know, what can we do to make that be something that's a win for everybody? Um, paying someone to be here that that that cost is is not possible for me.

If they lived here, um, and they could afford to live here, I don't know if they would they would still want an end for working weekends. I haven't I have yet to meet a provider that will just work weekends without pay. The olden days that was true, but not current people. I think you know like when I get cornered at the post office Yeah.

You know what I hear the most on concerns from people right now realizing where we were in the past is just these limited hours of operation. um no weekend coverage as well as um not being able to actually speak to somebody on the phone. Now, I'm assuming when somebody's working, someone's answering the phone and you can actually talk to a person, but that seems to come up. Um, you know, that if if, uh, they need to set up an appointment when you are closed, um, they would like, you know, a person to speak to. So after hours, I always have a nurse that answers every phone call after hours 24/7, 365. If we're not open, they're answering calls. If I'm closed for a meeting, they're answering answering calls. So, um, as far as making an appointment, if they answer a call and someone says, "I want an appointment," I have a team that will call them the next day and make the appointment. Always. Um, we also have online scheduling. And I am I will be honest, I don't know that I've opened that to Springdale town, but I definitely could open that to Springdale town. So people could get on at 2 in the morning and make an appointment. And that's something I can go back and check on because I haven't checked on that. But absolutely, right now you could for all most of our providers make appointments anytime. But having someone to talk to, I mean, we don't use any kind of AI tool or we don't send the calls to India. They all come to family healthcare and we're answering every call live. And like I said, I have a really strong team that answers those calls and I have a federal requirement to do that follow-up. So I know what happens. If they've if they've called, we've called them back.

That online scheduling, that sounds pretty convenient.

Yeah. and I can get that turned on and can go back to my office tomorrow and start working on it for sure. Yep. And that online scheduling also. So, one of the things that people don't necessarily know is we have what's called a portal. So, if you're a patient and you go into that patient portal, you can email our providers at any time of day and they're all um they are watching their email and if they're not watching their email, we're watching it for them to help them answer those timely. So, you can email your provider. Um, my particular provider, okay, so honestly, I text him, but if he I know my husband likes to act like a real patient, and that's to help me be a better CEO, and so my husband will message him. My daughter who lives in PAC is our patient because she loves him so much. But, um, he answers very timely. So you can send him a email and he'll answer within if it's I would say for him I can say two to three hours but we say 24 hours you get an answer back and if it's urgent um again if you call our nurse line and it's urgent you're going to get an on call doc so we have on call docs 247 365 as well that's just a system thing and our agenda item tonight is about adding medical clinics and pharmacies to the zone. It's not about this clinic, but um so I just want to mention that when when we recruited family healthc care to come up here and work out of this building while we tried to get a a better medical clinic, we're sort of the narrative has turned around and I'd like to get back to the original narrative which is that we were about to lose our medical clinic. The the providers were retiring. we were about to lose one of the few things we have in Springdale and don't have to go downhill for. So to be open two days a

week when it's just my primary care and I can make an appointment. It's not urgent. It's I can make that appointment and so it's really valuable to me and to be able to get prescriptions here would would be the icing on the cake because it's one of the few things I don't have to go down the hill for. I don't expect ever to see a specialist up here. Although you have a mobile clinic, you could do some specialty clinics and that kind of thing, but the narrative I want to be talking about isn't that they're not open enough. They're not they're they're um there aren't enough locals. What we've got is a clinic that our visitors can help us pay for that benefits locals. And seeing the numbers that you submitted to us about how many locals are using the clinic was really heartening for me because I did not expect that. So um so any questions for family health care this is the time to answer those. They do take all insurance um policy all insurance

including select health which Helen did not

right but I also with pharmacy I think one of the things that I've been asked is um what's the difference between a pharmacy that just takes care of our patients versus a pharmacy that takes care of everyone. So I mean I would love for it to be well I have mixed feelings. So but if we can do everyone if you can imagine that means all your specialty drugs everything any prescription you're traveling to get could be done here. Um and we're not going to be any price point different than what you're experiencing at your current pharmacy. Now, if you're our patient and you decide to be our patient, you can still have all your specialty drugs, if we're sending you, if we know you're going to that referral and it's in your medical record and we're talking to you about that specialty, um, and it's cardiology and they're taking care of that part of your work and we're taking care of the rest of you, that cardiology drug can come to our pharmacy and you can get that at very discounted rate if you're our patient. And that's something that no other pharmacy except for another community health center could do for you. And that's an amazing service. The reason I think it's important to be open to everyone is when I think about um first of all, all you all that maybe choose not to come to us, you should still be able to get your prescriptions and not have to drive to get them. And I think that's an amazing thing. And I'm willing to open hours of pharmacy to match need and to work together with, you know, I know I have to be careful because I like you might want us 40 hours a week here, but I can't do that. But we can talk about it and make it work for the town as well as us. And maybe that's, you know, what hours of the day are best for the community for us to be here. But the other thing is if I'm on vacation and I'm from the United States and I have a prescription that I need and something happened to it, then my provider can just call it here and I can pick it up. Or if I'm really I mean this is the best part that I love is and having a pharmacy would be so great is

if I'm really really sick and I need that prescription today. I mean I can I can drive out your prescriptions right now to you once a week if you really need that. But if you're really sick, that's hard. And so having a pharmacy will really help with those two things as well. Anything else for Lori? Uh Gail, you had a question? Yeah.

Can you for for the minutes, can you go to the microphone and stays? Sorry. Y Kefir is family health working with Zion National Park to become their first choice of bringing uh injuries to That's a great question.

I have asked National Park about that. They have a medical director that's at St. George Regional which they've had for a very very long time and they're not I think it makes they're not willing to change that relationship and it makes sense. A lot of things that happen in the park that are injuries, we're not going to be able to take care of, right? I mean, we're we're still ambulatory. We're still I don't have a neurologist on site. I can't do surgery, right? If you can ambulate yourself, so we call ourselves ambulatory. So, if you break your leg and you can get into our clinic, we'll take care of your leg. There's very few things that you can walk in that we can't take care of in that clinic. So, if you have if you're having heat stroke and you can actually get yourself in there, we'll treat your heat stroke. But if you have to be transported, the park and I think to protect their liability, you're going to head out to St. George Regional. So, if if you're getting in that EMS, if you're getting in that ambulance, you're off to St. George Regional. But if you can walk to us and having help, I mean, that doesn't have to just be you walking, but you get help to come to us. I broke my ankle. I did one of those great breaks where you have I have a plate and pins and screws on my ankle and I walked myself into emergency room and probably shouldn't have but I did and and I could have walked in here and Katie could have taken care of me. She wouldn't been able to do the surgery but she would have taken care of me and then set up the surgery because I had to have surgery. So yeah. Does that answer your question?

Yes. I'm just trying to figure out how um trying to figure out and it's not my job to figure it out, but I'm just trying to understand how we grow the clinic big enough to take care of those types of things or if we will never be there. I don't think we're ever going to be a trauma center like St. George Regional ever. they bypass hurricane emergency and go out to St. regional I think because of the level of I don't know so sometimes you go to hurricane

so I mean I would love it if they brought their simple fractures to us but that's a conversation that um hasn't been had yet and I think they have liability and there's reasons why they would not do that but like I said I think this particular clinic if we were going to start taking every accident that came out of the park um we would need a lot we'd need a different kind of surgical space to be built so that we could take care of it and we'd have to hire appropriate staff which would be very expensive because a lot of that is physician only and you can have a um a nurse practitioner a PA assessed but they're not going to be doing a lot of that work that an ER doc does. So I don't anticipate that's where we're growing. What I think would be the way to help this is to help people who are going to the park to understand that if you have a sprain or heat us and we can take care of that during our hours so which we see a lot of by the way we take care of a lot of heat we do IV therapy we we take care of a lot of abrasions we've set femur fractures um lower leg fractures we've had arm fractures arm fractures, lower arm and upper arm fractures. We've had sprained ankles and

squirrel bites. It is electric bikes. Squirrel bites. Yeah, we love them. I'm just kidding. But um but we we see a lot of a lot of injury, particularly in the summer. Now, the local residents, we're seeing normal stuff like basic family practice stuff, but um because in our clinic in St. George, we don't do a lot of breaks. Um, I have Katie who does who's dual certified in emergency medicine. That's why she's here. And I'm in the process of hiring someone to help cover Springdale the two other days who also I'm looking for emergency medicine experience for that reason. So, you are a community clinic.

We're a community clinic and we want to take care of the community and and I like matching specialty with my providers to what's needed. So, um, yeah. And then I think the behavioral health question, I think such a great question. And some of the cool things about having behavioral health here is even if I have a behavioral health provider here, they have access to some really cool things with our St. George office. I have um I have a psych psychiatric nurse practitioner and a physician who are both um dual certified in addiction medicine. So if you have someone come in and they have alcoholism, they really know how to take care of that and how to help people not just get a medication and move on, but take really get to care. That's true for a lot of those kinds of things. And if um if you have dental pain right now, we've had some upheaval in our dental team, but I just stabilized it by hiring a provider that's been with us for three years, and he'll be with us for another, I hope, 10, 15 years. But if you have pain, dental pain is a big emergency thing, but we're working really hard to then say to someone, "Yeah, you're in Springdale and you have dental pain, but you can go to our clinic in St. George tomorrow and be seen rather than go to the ER because so much of that goes to the ER." And it's so much less expensive to come to a dent a dentist rather than going to the ER. So, we're trying hard to do the right thing all the time. And for me, for this whole thing with the town, and I'm just to be totally frank, it's not a we're not making money out here. Um, we're making we're making money, but I'm I'm definitely still right on the verge of being in the red and being out here. And I'm okay with that because we feel so strongly about taking care of the community. And we think that opening the pharmacy is going to help us move that into the being making money. That makes sense. But that's one of the reasons that ours are limited is to help us

safeguard my obligation to keep our agency running um fiscally strong and not putting any of our company in jeopardy, but also continuing to provide services here. So, it's a balance and I I think we've struck a pretty good balance. The first year we were definitely lost money. We changed some staffing and we're definitely we're much closer to being um breaking even and we're we'll be we will be right there with pharmacy. Thank you, Lori. Hey, appreciate it.

Okay. Um are there any community comments? If so, state your name and make your comments and please limit those to three minutes. Evening everyone. Lisa Zump Springdale. I have two comments. The first one is thank you so much for the Springdale reptax. We had Zarts had the talent show that we said was going to be happening from the raptax and it was last Friday. We it it

Thursday, excuse me. Thank you, mayor. It was held in Rockville. We had over 70 attendees um from all parts of the canyon, Virgin, Rockville, Springdale, and the National Park. The show included five children's acts with six children. So, we had one duo from Virgin, Rockville, and Springdale. And we had eight adult acts with 10 adults from Springdale, Rockville, Virgin, and Z National Park. The ma the judges were Mayor B Mayor's Berno and Krauss. Um, Mayor Leech was out of the country, so Michael Evansson sat in for her and they all they did a great job for us. So, I just want you to know that I think it was a really successful event. And one of my goals for this was to see how well we could really bring the community together and we had a great representation from both the LDS church and members and from the nonLDDS community. So, I I think it was just a a great all-around community. Thank you so much for that money. So, um, because there's no comment, uh, period for, uh, opportunity for section or item D1, the HR agreement for the new town manager, um, I want to just be on record. I support the decision of the town council and the contract compensation amount. Tom is going to do a great job and eventually I think that the town will still need to hire another person to cover the expansive number of responsibilities that Rick has taken over the past 20 years. If you hadn't offered the to the job to Tom, you'd probably have to hire three people to do this job. So, I'm just supporting the the your vote on the contract tonight. So, thank you so much.

You any other comments? Okay. And I would entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda, which is a review of the monthly purchasing report, reappoint of Heidi Lee to the Springdale Historic Preservation Commission, and resolution 2026-04, a resolution designating surplus town property and providing for sale or disposal. Move to approve the consent agenda. I'll second. Motion by Jack and second by Randy. Pat I. Randy,

Barbry. Okay. The next item on the agenda is a public hearing uh for ordinance 2026-06, which was formerly 2025-20, amending chapter 10-7A of the town code by adding medical and dental clinics as permitted uses in the central commercial, village commercial, and public use zones. adding definitions of two types ofarmacies in section 1022 and potentially allowing pharmacies operated in conjunction with the medical clinic as permitted uses in the public use zone. The staff contact is Tom Danzy and we will be following the public hearing format on the back of the agenda. So we'll start with an introduction from Tom.

Thank you mayor. Um this is a continuation of an item that you heard in January. Um, and as as you mentioned, mayor, the critical policy decisions that you'll be making tonight are to clarify where medical clinics in which zones medical clinics are um should be located in the town. Currently, we have a definition of what a medical clinic is, but the code does not specifically allow them in any zone. And so, your your one policy decision tonight is to determine in which zones they should be allowed. as proposed in the ordinance. Um these would be allowed in the village commercial, central commercial, and public use zone. Um the second policy question that you'll need to consider tonight is um whether or not to allowies in the public use zone. Um pharmacies are currently drugstores andarmacies are currently allowed in the village in the village commercial and central commercial zones, but not in the public use zone. Um, this point was a a point of considerable discussion in your previous meeting whether or not to allow pharmacies in the public use zone and if so, what should the nature of thosearmacies be? Um, the uh general consensus was that if a pharmacy is allowed in the public use zone, it needs to be operated in conjunction with a clinic. Um but still what the nature of that relationship to the clinic should be was undetermined. Um particularly about who should the clientele of the pharmacy be. Should it be open to the general public or should it be only serve patients of the clinic and what types of services should the pharmacy offer? Should it only be prescription medicine or should it be um any kind of health related product like prescription or over-the-counter medicine or other health related supplies? Um, in response to your discussion in

the in the last meeting, um, we've revised the proposed ordinance in a couple of ways. One is we've removed all references to drugstores from the ordinance. Um, drugstores, although not defined in our code, generally have a a um connotation that they're they're not only selling medicines, but other general retail items. And based on your dis discussion last night, it was clear that that was not your intent for pharmacies. So we removed drugstores from all mentioned in the code and included definitions of pharmacies, two types. One is a standalone pharmacy. These would be allowed in the village commercial and central commercial zones. These would be um um businesses or or establishments that provide any type of of health related product. So prescription medication, over-the-counter medication, um, and other health related services like vaccinations or health screenings. So that's the proposed definition of a standalone pharmacy. And again, those are proposed to be located in the central commercial and village commercial zone as they already are. The um second part of of the definitions is a definition of what's called a pharmacy in conjunction and associated with a dental or medical clinic. And again, there's there's two options here for you to to choose from if you choose to allowies in the public use zone. Again, one is is much more um constrained in the services and clientele that can come to the pharmacy, only prescription medication and only serving patients of the clinic. The other is um more expansive. that would allow essentially the same types of services that a um standalone pharmacy would allow with the uh requirement that the pharmacy be operated in conjunction and housed in the same building as a as a medical clinic. So that if if you choose to go with that definition, the pharmacy in addition to prescription

medication could also provide over-the-counter medication um vaccinations and those types of things and could serve both patients and non-patients of the clinic. So, those are the policy considerations for you to to consider tonight. Um, just a a note that the current definition of clinic in the town code um contains a reference to an included pharmacy. So, if you decided to allow clinics in the public use zone but noties, we would need to amend that definition as well to avoid any kind of um conflict about whether or noties are allowed in the public use zone. Any questions?

Questions from council? Any question? Sorry. In the deliberation. Okay. Um any question? Okay. Any any uh questions for clarification from the audience? Okay. Then I would I would entertain a motion to open public hearing. Make a motion to second motion by Pat. Motion by let's say or a second by Jack

Pat or Bri. Okay, we're in public hearing.

This is Springdale. Um the general plan contains several references supporting and encouraging enhanced medical service in the town which were noted in the January staff report. Um I ask that you allow the dental and medical clinics in the CC, VC and PU zones and allow pharmacies as an appropriate use in the PU zone which I believe is under option one. I believe that's the the correct option. any concerns regarding business clinical decisions such as will this pencil out. I think that should be left to the nonprofit to let them decide if they can make it or not. It's really not the town's business to decide who's going to make money or not. I think that's I don't think businesses are going to come in here and do whether it's a nonprofit or not are going to do it if they don't think they can make it. Um and so this also commits to a pharmacy to decide it's financially practical too. So, I think you want to give a little trust to these people who I think kind of know what they're talking about. These changes are going to support our community for the future and ensure that the town is compliant with its own ordinances. Thank you.

Any other comments? Seeing none, I'd entertain a motion to close the public hearing. Make a motion to close the public hearing. Second. Motion by Pat and second by Randy. Randy. Barbara. Okay. So, we're in deliberation.

Pat, I think you said you had some questions.

Tom, I want to engage you in this conversation and maybe Lori can help out here. The the code we have that first of all doesn't doesn't have a a really good definition, I don't think, of what a pharmacy is, but the state code is fairly clear. what that is. Is there a reason why we don't use the state code definition for pharmacy? That's my first question and I can I can read it to you what it is and see what you think. Yeah. So, so there are many definitions of pharmacy. There's the state code definition of what a licensed pharmacy is. Other municipalities have different definitions. So, in crafting these definition and and you're right, Pat, the town code doesn't have any definition of pharmacy right now. Um so in crafting these different definitions I referenced all of those the state code um St. George city code other municipalities codes and tried to also respond to the feedback from the council in the last meeting. But if there's a better option certainly then then yeah there's there's we we should go with what option the council feels best for what a pharmacy is.

I'll read it just for the rest of the council's edification. The state code is laid out in 5817B102. A pharmacy means any place and this doesn't conflict with what you're proposing. I just I'm suggesting this as maybe a clarification.

Uh where drugs are dispenseed, pharmaceutical care is provided, drugs are processed, handled or for eventual use by a patient or drugs are used for the purpose of research, teaching, chemical analysis but not offered for sale or dispensing. That's the state code. The state also categorizes two different types of pharmacy and again the code you've crafted points to both of those where we say it's a standalone pharmacy state code calls it a class A pharmacy and that's a pharmacy that's located in Utah is authorized as a retail pharmacy to compound or dispense a drug or dispense a device to the public under prescription order and that would be I think you're called a standalone or your face front pharmacy. The state code also calls for a class B pharmacy, which means a pharmacy located in Utah authorized to provide pharmaceutical care for patients in an institutional setting and whose primary purpose is to provide a physical environment for patients to obtain health care services and includes closed door hospital clinic and pharmaceutical drugs. And the closed door is designed for an exclusive group of clinic patients. So what I'm suggesting obviously our decision is that we change the terms um pharmacy in conjunction with associated medical clinic and call that a class B and reference the state code and a pharmacy standalone would be a pharmacy A and reference the state code. I don't think it changes what you intend to do. It just puts us more in line with how the state code reads. So, how does that relate to uh pharmacies for patients only versus the general public? Which which would that be?

Class Class A is your standalone open to the general public. A class B is for institutional patients, patients that are that are people that are patients of of the medical clinic. I don't think it changes the definition all that much, but I think it I think it is more on point. Again, just my opinion.

I think maybe it's broader than we want because I think after our conversation last meeting that we wanted to narrow it down more. I think the state the state definition might be a little broader than what we talked about. And I'm I'm open to broadening up, but I know that we talked about more what what we have here.

And I think one of the big things that we talked about with this is that that pharmacy would be both uh business-wise and physically connected to the clinic. We wanted it in the clinic building. When I think of a standalone, I think of a separate building that that's open different hours etc. And and I what I like about the way we've kind of defined it here is that it is a pharmacy that is in conjunction and associated with the medical clinic meaning that the medical clinic is actually the one that has the control over pharmacys etc. When when I think about a standalone and and it's just my thought, it would be a whole different entity. It it would be like if Walgreens came up here and put a pharmacy there

and didn't have anything to do with the clinic. That's what the state and that's a class A, right? Class B provides pharmaceutical care for patients in an institutional setting, which means part of the clinic. in the only dispute I have is where you say it has to be using connection or associated with um housed in the same building I I get that I mean it I guess it gets to the same point but I think aligning it more with how the state code reads I don't think I don't think it changes it much maybe it does but I don't think it does and again just a suggestion so Pat which the the class B and the state code which of these definitions do you think it's closest to you you read it to us. But

the standalone would be your class A. I think the only thing the class A adds um it says it's authorized as a retail pharmacy, which I what I think the standalone is. It doesn't say that there, but that's what standalone means, right? Well, retail pharmacy. No. Yeah. Yeah. and and um and so um you know if if we were to allow standaloneies in village commercial and center commercial I I have no problem with that

to have a standalone not in conjunction with the uh with the medical clinic in a public use zone I Yes, I would have a problem with that. And and I think the feedback that we have been getting from our residents are that they I think they would consider that a commercial establishment,

right? and and and I think what our intent is with this pharmacy and with with citing anything in the public use zone is that it doesn't in any way come into that re what most people would consider a retail pharmacy you know that's just the way I'm thinking about it and that's the way I have been thinking about it in terms of a pharmacy on on public use property place though like

as it relates to public use zone I think it should be a pharmacy in conjunction with a medical clinic exactly that's what I'm saying however I think that if there is a pharmacy need for the general public they should be able to access that pharmacy

and and I totally agree with that and that was that is the one concern I have with the way we've kind of uh worded this right now is I'm uh I would like the general public to be able So when I think about that I think about tourists that are coming as Lori was talking about to um to to design Z National Park and they need a prescription refilled. That's what I think about is general public and um

and then Lor's kind of answer will you go to the our clinic in St. George is a which you have put up there as a standalone but is inside our clinic. So it allows us to serve our patients as well as the general population. What zone? What zone is it in? What zone? It's Is it a public use zone?

So you would that's not I'm not I'm just saying it's a pharmacy. So in the pharmacy sense of um can it be a class A or a class B? a class A or class B can be in my clinic. That's what I'm trying to say. So, are you trying to say what you want in the zone or you're saying that that our our case is different than your clinic in? Sure. In the case that it's in a public use zone, but the use of the definition. So what you have there would mean that no one in your community who's not our patient could use the pharmacy or a Zion National Park couldn't you know someone who's a visitor couldn't I think

that's one of them

can I just clarify can I just clarify how I've structured this ordinance because I I think it's a little bit confusing I apologize so there's there's three different displayed on the screen right now there are three different definitions but there's actually only two so these refers to pharmacy in conjunction and associated with a met with a dental or medical clinic and then pharmacy in conjunction and associated with a dental or medical. These are these are two different options for the same definition. One of them would allow the general public to visit, one of them would not. Um, so this first one here says, hey, a pharmacy in conjunction and associated with a dental or medical clinic is essentially offering the same thing that you're going to get in a standalone pharmacy that is offering services to the general public. It just needs to be in the same building as a medical or dental clinic and and operated in conjunction. So if if you want the general public to be able to visit the pharmacy, this is the definition that you would want to choose. If you don't want the definition, the general public to visit a pharmacy in the public use zone, you would choose this second definition because this one says that you only providing um pharmaceutical drugs. So, you have to have a you have to have a prescription um and only to the patients of the dental or medical clinic and it's limited to dispensing of prescription medication. So, if you only want prescription medication and you only want patients of the clinic, you would choose the second definition. Right. Does that make sense?

Yeah. Um and and that was kind of the crux of it last time. And I think Lisa had said she supports number one. I especially after hearing Lor's presentation feel like it's it's better for them and for us and our visitors to have that first definition that gives a little leeway. So So you don't have to be a patient. So, I like definition number one in the public use zone.

And Tom, I um you know, I know that one of the stumbling blocks with all of this for some council members and for the public is just this public use zone and and it's like the question went to Lori, what's public use in or what's the use zone in what's it owned in St. George? So, and I talked to Tom about this earlier today and I know this uh this is an issue and I don't know what uh were you able to find anything in the state just in general how other municipalities and and counties have kind of covered this uh with their zoning.

Yeah. So, so Randy called this morning and and asked me to do this research. And just in general, I'll I'll preface this by saying that the state legislature has delegated to individual municipalities legislative control over zoning. So, you are not bound by anything in the state code or anything that another municipality does with how you set up your own zoning in your community. You get to choose what goes into each zone specific to the needs and circumstances of your community. Having said that, Randy said, "Well, what do other communities do?" So, so I looked um and um St. uh the public use zone actually is is kind of unique to Springdale. Um St. George does not have a public use zone. They have something called an administrative professional zone which allows public uses. That's where all the government um facilities in St. George are located, but it also allows hospitals, medical labs, medical offices, andarmacies. Um Washington is similar. They don't have a public use zone. They have the same administrative and professional zone, which again allows medical offices. Um they don't have they don't mention pharmacy a traditional pharmacy at all but strangely enough they do allow a medical cannabis pharmacy in their administrative and professional zone which is kind of their equivalent of the public use zone. Um in that same zone however they also offer offer um allow banks and food trucks in that what their version of the public use zone. Um Cedar City does not have a public use zone. They allow medical clinics as a conditional use in their residential zones. Um, Hurricane has something called the public facilities zone which allows hospitals, medical or dental laboratories. It also in their public facility uh zone allows

funeral homes and reception centers. Um the uh Park City has something called a public use transition zone that allows again their government services, but it also allows things like food trucks, liquor stores, commercial retail, restaurant, and quasi public uses. So the the takeaway is I I hope you're getting is that there there is no uniformity in in the state in other municipalities about are clinics an appropriate use in quote unquote or pharmacies an appropriate use quote unquote in the public use zone. That's because the state has delegated that decision to you. You get to make that decision whether or not that's appropriate spring or not. But but it sounds like um generally even though a public use zone is maybe unique to us, it sounds like similar zones in other cities allow this.

Correct.

Yeah. And that that was the point of I wanted to to make with this question and and Tom's uh it we're not we're not breaking the mold here. We're not allowing something that's really out of the ordinary with anybody else. We we kind of have a unique zone in the way we have defined it. Uh but the other municipalities in zones that they have sort of made public use, they allow things like hospitals and in medical clinic andarmacies. So, we're not we're not really going way out of bounds on this and we're not doing something that's uh really I think inconsistent with the intent and with uh what uh what the town councils who established this public zone uh public use zone

might have had in mind. I've got the definition of the public use zone in front of me. May I read it before you go ahead? The public use zone is established to provide for the location and establishment of public and quasi public facilities. That simple.

And to Lor's credit, the fact that this is a nonprofit uh quasi public perhaps medical clinic. We I think we and I agreed that we established that that would be okay on public use land because it is this kind of nonprofit organization. Uh hypothetically, what if an independent organization came in uh so Utah emergency physicians came in and said, "We'd like to put a clinic right next to Lor's clinic, uh but we are a for-profit organization." Would that would that rub us the wrong way? That would still be okay. Well, let's let me kind of

go back again. Yeah. And I I know what you're saying and I I'm going to try to answer your question. Um there's a way out of this. Go ahead.

Yeah. I I think that, you know, when when I think about a medical clinic and and right now, you know, Family Healthcare obviously is nonprofit and it's it really I think makes a case for a medical clinic here, but uh I also I'm I'm just thinking in general uh a medical clinic in in our town, especially with the Zion National Park being so I think is a good public use uh for us whether it was a a retail or not. And you know in the research that Tom has done. I mean in in their administrative zones which sort of corresponds in a lot of ways to our public use zone. They allow a lot more than and they would allow a for-profit medical clinic to come in. So that's what I'm going to your answer. I'm not to answer your specific question. I think it's a good idea to have No, I don't think it would be a good idea to have two a nonprofit and a medical clinic right next to each other. I think that would be horrible. I think uh since it's a legislative decision, I think the town would not be obligated to let them do that to come in and do that. But for instance, if Family Healthcare in 10 years decided uh that they wanted to they couldn't do it up here anymore and a for profits came in and said we'll run your medical clinic. I think we should let them do that. So that that that's I I think a medical clinic is a uh is a good public service to this community.

Vision on this. What I was going to suggest is in the permitted use table talks about clinic parenthetically dental and medical uh permitted use in the public use zone. Is there any appetite to put a separate line for clinics dental and medical that are not that are for-profit organizations or is we okay? I don't think this thing really says anything about forprofit or nonprofit and and I didn't want to make that that distinction. I wanted to make it a medical clinic and right now we're we're fortunate to have a nonprofit who wants to run this medical clinic. But I think

I don't think that we should make personally I don't think we should make that distinction.

We don't want an empty building. We we want a medical clinic whether it's and we hope to get a long-term lease with Family Healthcare, but I think we want a medical clinic in Springdale. We want it to take care of our our residents and we need to allow a pharmacy for them to even make a go of it and otherwise we're driving downhill even though we go to the doctor here. So, I think the issue is do we want to allow medical clinics in the public use zone? we seem to be headed that way. And then also I think I think the first definition of pharmacy which is not allowing for a Walgreens or a retail pharmacy that's selling stuffed animals and stuff. But I think that's what we talked about at the last meeting and I'm I would be comfortable with the the very first definition if

and I definitely

others would I think that uh that because we are next to a national park if it if we were a small community a community that was isolated we didn't have national park there then maybe I think the second would be more appropriate but the fact that we're next to this national park had that any visitors coming in. Uh I I think it would be I don't think it would be a a good decision executive decision to limit it to the second definition. I think the first definition my opinion would be the appropriate one for for the pharmacy. And I think because we're unique, we're an extra national park with 5 millionish visitors, we're not likely to get a medical clinic anywhere except a public use zone. You know, for someone to be able to come in and afford to buy commercial property and build a building and and make a go of it here, I think is unlikely. So, it is a public service. It is benefiting our residents. And if it benefits visitors, too, that's fine. They're they're helping us to support a medical clinic and I I think we're I think we're in a good place with the pharmacy definition.

I think and and Randy, I'm glad you asked the question this morning. Tom, your um information for me was very helpful because I got to tell you and I'm sure you all know I was very on the fence about this. Um, but the fact that there are other towns and we're not going to be a an outlier by doing something like this. It's not like we're going to be the black sheep of Utah by doing this. It sounds like other places do it. They don't call it a public use zone, but for all intents and purposes, that's what it is. So, thanks for asking that question. So, I guess the question I have on the first definition, since it doesn't state who it serves, is it implied it's for the general public? Yes.

Yes. Yes. But it, you know, specifically operated in conjunction with the medical clinic. So, they couldn't they couldn't lease that space out to someone else. It' be it's got to be part of the clinic. So, so the only other thing I I I would ask and I'm not trying to be a pain here, but do we need to define pharmacy? I mean, it's defined in the in the bottom one there a little bit, but we say a pharmacy in conjunction with, but what's a pharmacy? So, is it worth just putting something in that says this is what a pharmacy is? Yeah. And that that's a good point. That's what I tried to do, but if it if it can be clarified, that's we we we can make it more clear. So this bottom definition here is is pharmacy standalone.

So would that be tied to the first paragraph? Uhuh. So So this says this is a business that provides these pharmaceutical ser services yada yada yada. And then this top one that the council is leaning towards for the public use zone says an establishment providing the same services as a standalone pharmacy. So you're tying the standalone pharmacy third paragraph with the first paragraph with the condition that it's operated in conjunction with and is under the administration of and housed in the same building as a dental or medical building. Um you think of everything. Yeah. So it is incorporated into that first one by saying middle part's gone. Everything crunches together. It's all good. Correct.

So the the first definition will be public use and the and the last definition will be central and village commercial. Right. Correct. the first definition of what a pharmacy. Are we prepared to make a motion?

Do these definitions need to be part of the motion? Yes. Thank you. You you should clarify that you're using the first definition of uh pharmacy in conjunction and associated with a medical clinic, not the second proposed definition. I can take a shot if that'd be great, Randy. We can add to it if we Yeah. Like we need to

edit. Uh, I move we approve ordinance 2026 amending chapter 10-7A of the town code by adding medical clinic and dentical clinic has permitted uses in the central commercial, village commercial and public use zones. adding definitions of the pharmacy. um to be a pharmacy operating in conjunction and associated with a dental dental or medical clinic and establishing an establishment that provides the same services at a st as a standalone pharmacy and which is operated in conjunction with and is under the administration of and is housed in the same building in the same building as the dental and medical clinic.

So, Randy, did you reference amending chapter 10-2? Uh, I thought 10-7. Okay. In that we uh No, I did not. And that we amend section 10-2-2 to that definition of a pharmacy. What else do we need, Tom? Please, Tom.

Um, that's great. Um it it for clarity and ju just so nothing gets just so you're not trying to to like put the verbatim definition of the of the verbatim of the definition in the motion. You might just want to say we adopt the ordinance as proposed with the first definition of pharmacy uh in conjunction with and associate with a dental or medical clinic in the staff report and not the second definition. That way everything else is is clear and and it's there's not a question about well did they adopt this part or not that part and but you're just saying yes we adopted as proposed with the clarification that it's that first definition of this of the

pharmacy in conjunction with the medical clinic that we're Does that make sense? Yes it does. And uh instead of reading all that should have done that

for a second or are you adding something? Well, can we use your clarification, Tom, or do we need to use Tom's clarification? Can we do that or do we need to make that motion? I don't want anything to say. Um the the verdict the clerk is if that as I've um stated that if that is acceptable to you Randy as a as a substitute for your motion that you could say yes that's acceptable and then vote. That is acceptable to me. Okay. Do we have a second? Second. Got a motion by Randy and a second by Jack and I. Randy I Barbara I

Jack. Okay. Next item on the agenda is ordinance 2026-02 amending chapter 10-24-7 of the town code regarding banner permits by adding additional permit requirements, general standards, and allowing banners in the public use zone. And this is Kendall Sagers.

Yes, thank you. So, as you know, we brought this to you in your last town council meeting on February 11th, 2026. And just for that quick recap again, the permits, the banner permit standards are found in section 10-24-7 of the town code. These proposed revisions enhance the clarity, efficiency, safety standards, and expand the range of allowed zones. The proposed changes changes will allow for banners to be placed in the village commercial, central commercial, and the public use zone. We propose changes and additions to the permit requirements, permit application review, and the general standards. During the planning commission meeting held on January 21st, 2026, the commission added the allowance on the number of banners allowed in the public use zone from four banners to 12 banners. During the town council meeting on the February 11th meeting, the council proposed further adding the allowance of three banners at a time on a property within the public use zone. From the last meeting, we also cleaned up some of the language. We had the interchanging shall and must. So, we cleaned that up per your request. Um, so the town council should review the proposed ordinance revisions.

I think he captured everything we talked about. What do you think, Pat? Randy Jack. Yes, indeed. So, thank you for revising that per request and I'll look for a motion. Town Council has reviewed uh ordinance 2026-2 revisions to title 104 town code allowed zones application process and standards and authorizes the mayor to sign. I'll second motion by Pat, second by Randy. Randy,

Barbara. Okay. Next item is ordinance 2026-07 changes to section 9-1-4 of the town code regarding the storage location of the physical copy of the state construction code. And I see that Nyall is not here. So Tom, do you want to handle that one? I will. And Nile left me with like probably the most weighty policy decision you're going to be making. This ordinance has to do with where we keep the physical copy of the town of the of the um building code. Maybe we should schedule a tour. Currently the How much room does this thing take? Is it like a Oh, massive.

Massive. Um and currently it says it has to be in the clerk's office. We think it's actually we want the flexibility to put it in the community development office if we want. So, we're just changing the the the wording from office of the town clerk to the town hall. I'm just check the state come down and check on this. People could if it was specifically brought up in a building inspector training that Zach would No kidding.

We We would never have changed it if if Zach hadn't gone to a training and this this particular point came up and so we said we we should probably clarify that. I'm just wondering why the clerk is objecting to something like that. I mean, it would be good for her to put her feet on if she wanted to. Tom, is there an electronic link to this available?

Um, so there is an electronic link. This um these are codes published by the International Code Council and you can get them, but in order to really get get them in depth, you have to pay a subscription to them. Um, and so there is a requirement that we have a physical copy in the town hall in case somebody wants to come and and look at them. Really struggling with approving this one.

Somebody have a motion. Town Council has reviewed and approves Ordinance 2026-07, an ordinance revising the town's regulations for storing the town's copy of the International Building Code by changing the specified storage location from the office of the town clerk to the town hall. Generally, it authorizes the mayor sign. I'll second motion by pass, second by Randy.

I bar. Okay, next item is selection of ParkPlace Residential doing business as AR Arcilla Archilla Arcilla Arcia Ridge LLC as a town housing development partner for workforce housing units on parcel S-100-Z located at the end of Trapper Circle. The staff contact is Tom Danzy and we have we have Kyle if we have questions for him. Um

thank you, mayor. Um so as the council is aware, we recently issued a request for proposals to um find a partner to help us with development of the workforce housing on the Trapper Circle property. This has been a project that the town's been contemplating for some time. Um and we've we've investigated several different um housing partners to help us with that project. We ultimately issued an RFP to select the the most um qualified uh partner and as a result of that RF RFP process, we've um decided to recommend Parkplace Residential. Parkplace is um a a firm that has extensive re extensive experience in property management um as well as property development. They come highly recommended. The housing committee met with them several times um to go over their proposal and to to ask them questions. We also vetted them with references um the and and spoke to to folks who have worked with them in the past. Um based on all of that, the housing committee is highly um confident in in Parkplace and so we are recommending that the town formally appoint ParkPlace to be our housing partner. they are going going to be doing business under a business entity AR arca arca ridge um and so although they submitted their proposal parkplace residential and that's their parent company the actual development entity that will be doing the trapper circle project will be Arcia Ridge so what we what we'd ask you to do tonight is to formally appoint um ParkPlace doing business as Arcia Ridge as the town's housing provider We have included for your reference an outline of a um agreement between the town and RCA Ridge that will outline just kind of the roles and responsibilities. You do not need to

approve that. In fact, you should not approve that at this point because it is is purely draft, but we would appreciate any feedback you have on the content. If there are things that you see in that that you would um like to question or you'd like to give feedback or direction on, please do so. Um and then we will bring back a fully developed and legal agreement for the council to approve in the April meeting. So again, tonight's action is just formally appointing Parkplace and then informally giving any feedback on the draft outline of the agreement.

I got to say, now mayor, you're on that committee. Yes. As as is Kyla and Tom also. Um you guys did an exceptional job on this, I think. I mean, that that proposal is really well done in my opinion. And if we have any questions for Kyle, does anyone want to ask Kyle question? I I have questions for Kyle or for Tom. Well, I think both. Kyle, would you mind stepping up to the microphone and state your name and we'll just if if whatever questions come your way, answer those. Okay. Kyle Arbazoo, Parkplace Residential.

So, I guess the one thing that I was kind of picking up on is like each unit is 660 square feet. And it could house up to four people.

It is um technically three because it would be two plus one is general HUD standard. So it' be two two people per bedroom plus one for living space. As we have looked at it there, we may amend the plan just a hair as we've kind of continued refining it more to make it better. So, we had that extra deep storage space and in discussion with one of our other developer clients, the suggestion was made, why not make that interior space because we're already building it anyways and so it's probably not a huge cost and so it would actually bump up the total finished. It would be able to be used as storage, but if somebody wanted to in theory, you know, house an extra person or have a roommate, uh, it would almost function as that with the exception of that room would not have a bedroom, but it would be a storage/den and it would increase the 660.

Yeah, that seems really super tight to me. Um so if I was reading the chart correctly um this would be for uh for two people the and based on their income the range of rent would start out from 1612 to 2418 uh based on AMI and that it would uh go up annually. So the way it was designed um and the suggestion for the agreement was more that the grid for the proposal purpose was to provide a grid of what is considered affordable to households of that size. It was not necessarily a formalization of where we would end up. Uh my recommendation to Tom in our last discussion was that we settle somewhere I think in like the 100% AMI rent range. I think it was like 1885 that we would set it to a household limit. And so in the agreement it would be so in affordable housing for low-inccome housing tax credit purposes generally it scales based on how many people are in the household then you have an income limit. Our suggestion was not to have an income limit on the project because in theory what your goal in my my opinion what the goal is of middle- inome housing is that you want people to have the ability to level up. The great thing about tax credit in a lot of ways is if somebody moves into a tax credit project that's low income and they're earning potential increases over time. They're not kicked out of that. They're they get to stay in that position so they can save money and eventually have a down payment. And so we would have a rent restriction. So in addition to you guys getting the workforce housing, we would be restricting the rent um to a certain area med income range at a household size that we all agree on. Two people seems to be the best. And that's why we kind of were talking about amending that downstairs uh room space. So in theory, if two people work at Oscars and they wanted to split that rent, it becomes a little bit more affordable if they

wanted to or if they had a child um that they have that extra space. Uh so it would restrict the rent, but it would not restrict the income. So in theory, they could make more than the AMI. They could be making 140% or it could service any of the medical providers in theory that might be in between housing options, but it would cap the rent.

And Jack, I just want to point out, you might not know this, we didn't have any income requirements at all. Our RFP called for the only obligation we had was that they be workforced. And so this is something that Kyle has done to make them more affordable without us forcing that. So it's it's a bonus if you will that he's he's looking at the AMIs and we have Matt Frink on the housing committee and he helped us with the incomes at Z National Park so that Kyle feels comfortable that people can afford these units, but it was not our requirement. Yeah, I've got two long-term rentals that I've had the past 20 years here. And so I have kind of a feel and it and these are for people who work here in Springdale. And then also just kind of watching um what is available and what rents are and whether or not they rent. So it strikes me as a little on the high side, but I guess you know you'll find out. Um, I had a question on the 50-year lease and and part of this is also for the town is how was that arrived at? How was a 50-year lease? Is that common place or

that was a determination? Uh, that was what was put out in the request for proposal that would be a 50-year term. It is not a lease. It is a fee ownership. So, it is the land is being granted uh in exchange for the restrictions. And I would say it is common on other affordable housing deals that we've worked on, cities have contributed the land in addition to um additional financing methods uh which may include home funds, may include tax increment financing where they're not paying property taxes for a substantial period of time. And so uh it's a great benefit for the project, but it's not uncommon uh in Utah or Nevada. And and maybe this I'll get to kind of where I'm going with that. And I've just got a couple more questions and maybe I'm not fully understanding this. Let's And so it sounds like that you have the option at some point if you decide this doesn't work for you, you can transfer this ownership to someone else.

In in theory, the project is designed that it's yes, you could transfer the ownership to somebody else. Um it it really wasn't the goal or the intention. It's really more of a survival mechanism. I mean my hope is to live for a very very long time. About 50 years is a long time. Um we approached the development and I know that you probably weren't on the committee. The firm Parkplace Residential is only owned by two people. It's myself and my mother. Uh but we are a relatively large firm. We cover four different states. And so the intention is that this is meant to be a family asset. It's not meant to go anywhere. We're local to southern Utah. Uh I was born and raised in St. George. And so it was a unique opportunity for us, we felt, to do a fund project that would be unique. Uh just going back to the rental rates and the size. I mean, I think the one thing that's different is we did a project in Hurricane recently. Um and I would say it's not the prettiest thing. It's a more of a box, but we had a really good idea of what costs were and we knew what our land cost was and we knew all these different things. And so as we were approaching it, um, we tried to design units that we felt would have the adequate space, fit the needs that were kind of there of, hey, we need to have outdoor space. The parcel is also a very challenging parcel to attack because it's a triangle, the way that the setbacks were, utilizing the ridge, meeting the parking requirements, and so I think that we were able to hit all the things that were in the RFP. Um, and we we believe that the pricing based on where people's area median income is and then not having to travel. So, we're renting onebedrooms that are 598 square feet in Hurricane. They just opened 30 days ago and they're almost half gone. Um, and those are 1325

with no rush. So, I guess the let's just say let's just say in five years you decide this doesn't work for you and you have the option of transferring this um at fair market value. And if I look at this correctly, you've got an investment of building it for about 1.6 million and the town is donating the land. Um, and this is part of a question for Tom. Um, does the fair market value include the the the land?

If you scroll up to the proforma, there's actually a valuation metric here. Um, if you scroll back down a little bit, Tom, the cap rate, um, and this is based on the income stream the property provides, right? And so a six and a quarter cap rate because it is an income restricted project, right? If you were to go to market, like we're going to go look at stuff in Cedar and we're paying like $80,000 a unit, substantially cheaper um because it's income restricted and the income stream is actually not that much worse than what this income stream is. And so the property would be valued and that's why we put the income restriction, the rent restrictions on it was in theory, if you look at the 2.28 million, the property values probably between three and $400,000. That said, there is clay most likely on the property. We did get the neighboring soils reports and at preliminary we're looking at between 300,000 or more to put in peers or do the uh 8 to 10 ft of over excavation. And so while the contribution of the land is super important, without it it would not be economically viable to build it. So if you take the land over excavation, everything like that and we're not charging any development fees in theory at a six and a quarter cap at 2.2 2 million uh on an exit, we would essentially get paid for building the project, but there wouldn't be a significant spread beyond that. Uh and that would assume that somebody wants to buy it and operate it because the way that the agreement is intended to be written, the person that has to buy it does have to commit to operating it. And we do feel that the uh in working with Tom that it's outlined that there will be limited amount of firms that can provide the level of operation that it would need. So, this kind of takes me back to where I'm a little uncomfortable with a 50-year lease. And, you know, my interest is looking at uh protecting the town. And so, you let's just say you

default in five years. And we are tied to a 50-year lease. And so, my question to Tom is, what language do we have that protects the town if there's a default? It's not a lease. It's right. It's Yeah. Yeah. So, it's not at least the the town is transferring ownership of the property.

Well, even at that, you know, we're we're gonna we're so we're going to have this property sitting there that you you're not able to, let's just say you can't sell it because you can't find another, you know, somebody else to run this operation. So, I don't know. I mean, are we really comfortable? You know, I was like, what about a probationary period to make sure that this is truly a good fit for Springdale? Unless the housing committee has already gone there and, you know, you're all confident that this is, you know, a good fit for Springdale and and that we are protected at all levels.

We've we've evaluated this completely and um yeah, I and and if it's sold, it's sold with all the restrictions. So I did see that. Yeah, we

So we have we have a workforce housing project for 50 years and and 50 years was in our RFP. That wasn't Kyle's decision. So he's not it's not that he was reluctant to go longer. It's that that what that's what we asked for. And so we can't now ask for something else when we put an RFP out asking for 50. The the one thing I would throw out just I mean to your point about being protected I think um if we just look at the pure cost what you're really contributing is $8,000 a year to have this if you look at it over a 50-year term if you assume that the property is worth $400,000 which without the land being contributed it would just sit as land and so the property will have more property taxes it will provide a public benefit in my personal opinion it would sell I mean if if worse came to worse the town could assume ownership of the property at whatever market value is at the time and you would have the units that are built and you wouldn't have technically paid a developer fee in the worst of worst case scenarios. Um best case scenarios you're going to have workforce housing with income restrictions with a deed restriction and you know it's written where we have to comply once a year with the verification methods and I would say we're reputable. I mean I I think we're going to be here for a very long time but it is an economics thing. them at the end of the day. And that was kind of the thing that we told the housing committee and we we showed them our white box that we built in Hurricane and like you can go look at that. It's it's really a matter of it's comes down to what the town wants. I'm happy to build whatever you want. I can build you the most basic box and it will not look super pretty and we can lower the requirements and you know we can look at different options but for kind of what was put out in the RFP which is we want it to look you know equivalent to what's in the neighborhood which in the 10 years construction costs are significantly higher than they were 10 years ago. It's just a reality of where it is. Interest rates are significantly higher and at the same time we are the ones that are going to risk the $1.6 $6 million in capital to build the project.

And so there has to be an adequate return because I can get four and a half% 4% in a money market almost. And so there has to be enough spread that there's enough economic benefit in doing it. We don't have to get rich off the project by any means, but it just has to have enough economic room to make it viable. These were just questions that came to mind as I read through this.

And can can I just add a couple things, Jack? I I think you actually make raised some really good points. Um, and one is on your your comment about, you know, can we can we do like a a probationary period? We we kind of have a little bit of that. Um, in in the draft outline, we have a revisionary clause that's proposed to go into the deed that says, hey, if if ParkPlace fails to perform, um, then there's a three-year period that the property reverts back to the town. Um the other thing is in the Red Hawk agreement that we've done with Mountain Country Home Solutions, there's some language about what happens if Mountain Country defaults and what happens to the properties. Um and we can we can look at um incorporating some of that language into this agreement as well to protect the town in that regard as well.

So you actually just reminded me of something that I meant to um mention was and this kind of goes back to a discussion we had earlier on time frames of of building new construction in Springdale. And I read the that three-year time frame and that it was based on I can't remember the exact wording um like substantial progress. And I I wonder if we want to actually define what we mean by substantial progress. And I I go back to what Kyla had suggested when we had this conversation before and it was based on like an 80% building inspection or I can't remember what it was exactly.

Probably the four-way building inspection is what she was talking about. Yeah. But I guess I would rather it not be vague on, you know, because I think what is considered substantial will be different. can help. That's a great point and we can we we can we can clarify that when we when we do the actual language of the agreement. That's a really good point. We'll get the contract to approve hopefully in April and we can make sure it has all of those things that are that you're comfortable with. Anything else? Thanks, Kyle. We do need a motion if we're ready to approve. Um, we do need a motion selecting ParkPlace Residential.

I can make a motion, but my understanding from the training that Tom gave us was that I I can't introduce stuff that we didn't talk about. Is that right? Can I introduce stuff that's in the proposal, for instance, in the motion? So, so the motion is to um Yeah, it's just to approve is to select Park Place. So, I don't have to make given him. We've given Tom Oh, no. You should You should still make findings. Yeah. Yeah. So, my that's my question. Can I make findings that were not part of the discussion here if it's part of the packet material or part of the RFP? Sure. Because that's all part of the that's all part of the agenda item.

Town council has reviewed the ParkPlace Residential doing business as RCA Ridge LLC proposal and draft development agreement. It makes the following findings. Uh, Parkplace Residential is a stable, locally headquartered firm with extensive experience managing highquality multif family workforce housing communities across the Inter Mountain region, overseeing approximately 3,000 family units. Uh, the firm's management plan includes a full service property management with deed restricted covenants tied to Washington County AMI benchmarks. The proposed partnership town land contribution in exchange for 50-year AMI based deed restriction and no re and no revenue sharing is consistent with the town's workforce housing goals and general plan policies. Parkplace Residential demonstrates expertise in affordable and workforce housing finance using market driven structures their language. Uh and the concept uh level site plan includes 10 one-bedroom town home units with a garage parking for nine uh which complements Springdale's central commercial context and the proposed 18 to 20 more 18 to 24 month schedule aligns with the town's goal to deliver new workforce housing units in the near term. Therefore, the town council approves the selection of Parkplace Residential as a trapper circle workforce housing partner and directs the staff to negotiate and return a development agreement consistent with the terms of the Parkplace residential proposal.

I think second motion by Pat, second by Randy Barb. Okay. Okay. Next item is resolution 2026-03 adopting a historical displays policy for the town of Springdale. And this is Kindle. Yes.

Um so the town of Springdale's general plan natural and cultural resources promotes actively seeking and preserving historic resources throughout the community. Sub goal D is to preserve and promote community appreciation for the town's heritage and cultural history. The town occasionally receives requests from residents and non-residents wanting to donate items of historical value. Um and staff recommends adopting a policy that would manage such donations. Sorry about that. Adopting the historical displays policy will provide framework that ensures the preservation and integrity of the town's collection of historical items, preserve cultural heritage, and ensure responsible practices with the historical items. Some of the key points of the policy include a mission, access, authority and responsibilities, acquisitions, DS and disposal, collections, care and documentation. One thing I want to point out is that the mission says to preserve, protect, and promote the rich historical and cultural heritage of Springdale, ensuring its unique story and character are celebrated and accessible for present and future generations in alignment with the town's vision to remain a distinctive and cherished community. The historical displays policy was taken to the Historic Preservation Commission on November 13th of 2025. They made the motion to recommend that the town council adopt the proposed historical display policy and gift of deed. The proposed historical displays policy went through the town's attorney and was updated with their advice since that HBC meeting. One of those changes is changing the gift of deed to a gift affidavit which is found in appendix B. So, the town council should review the proposed historical displays policy. If the council supports the historical displays policy, the council should make a motion to approve resolution 2026-03.

Kindle, it uh talked about a committee that I guess it specifically said someone in a in a staff role. It does. There's Okay. Yeah. So, staff, commissioner, and a council member. So once this is approved, we would appoint a committee. Sorry, the committee is not appointed yet. That would happen after this is approved. Correct. Okay. Is the town in the position of accepting donations. And where would they be stored?

Yes, we are. Um at the moment we have a display case here in the community center which is our intention of having those historical displays for storage. um that can be in a few different places. It can be in town hall. It could be here at the community center. It could even be one of the one of the storage units of records. We got to put a pedal in. Well, because I think you'll find that, you know, people will want to donate furniture, old piece, old chairs and whatnot. So, things that could take up space.

We do have an old chair and it is sitting in Nile's office. That's its home right now. It looks very nice in there, though. But the committee will determine whether we are able to take the things whether we have a place to put them. And and the items you're probably thinking of are gone now. They've been donated elsewhere. So for example, Jean Krauss who's on the commission said somebody found a bunch of old photographs. Um I can tell you about that later if she hasn't, but those are more the kinds of things that we expect to get. There may be some furniture. Well, and I think this is good to have because it puts the town also in the position of uh rejecting donations. You know, if it doesn't fit the scope, that's it's good to have that. Someone want to make a motion I move to uh adopt resolution number 2026-03, a resolution adopting uh a historical displays policy for the town of Springdale.

I'll second. Motion by Jack and a second by Randy. Randy, Barbara. Jack I

next item is a request to sell and serve alcohol in the town field as required by town code section 7-6-13e located at 126 Lion Boulevard for the Zion Chalk and Earth Festival. The applicant is the town of Springdale and the staff contact is Robin Romero. Garen, have you checked the criminal background of this applicant to make sure there's no Okay.

And it's beer and wine, right? Correct. Beer and wine only. Okay. Motion.

Okay. So, this is this is a motion to approve the request to sell and serve alcohol in the town field for the Zion Chocolate Nerf Fest. Easy motion. Okay. Town and approves the request to sell and serve alcohol at the Springdale Town Field located at 126 Lion Boulevard for the Zion Chalk and Earth Festival to be held Saturday, April 18th through Sunday, April 19th with the following conditions. Before the event the applicant will comply with section 7-6-13e of the Springdale town code to include signing an indemnity agreement with the town of Springdale, obtaining a large outdoor event permit, obtaining all required alcohol permits through the Utah Department of Alcohol and Beverage Services and the town of Springdale and approved security plan and authorizes the mayor to sign that. Is that it? Does that work?

The mayor will sign the next piece. This you guys are just giving your approval for for the event without call. Motion by Pat, second by Jack Barb.

Okay. The next item is related. It's a single event local consent request for Zion Canyon Brew Pub for the Zion Chalk and Earth Festival located on the town field at 126 Lion Boulevard in Springdale. And again, the staff contact is Robin and this one would require my signature to approve the local authority consent for a single event permit for Zion Canyon Brew Pub LLC for the Zion Rockfest and direct the mayor to sign.

Second it. Motion by Jack and second by Pat. I barre.

Next item is local consent request for a restaurant full service alcohol license for Wildcat Willies doing business as Porter's restaurant located at 897 Zion Park Boulevard in Springdale, Utah 84767. The applicant is Jacob Cochran and this is Robin's item. Jacob has been the chef since he opened and he's really he and his wife have really been running the place according to the stand. So it's not really new anything new except the actual ownership.

So it still Yes, it does. I move to approve the local authority consent for a retail alcohol license. This is a restaurant full service license for Porter's restaurant and direct the mayor to sign. Motion by Jack, second by Randy Pat. I Okay. And the next item is discussion and possible approval of employment agreement for town manager Thomas Denzy. And the staff contact is Don Breck.

I wish I could do this from back there. I try to distance myself from this until I just shimmy right around this thing. You could you could carry that back there if you wanted to.

No, no. That's why I sit away from there. Um, this is the town manager agreement that I asked the town attorney to uh go ahead and complete for us. It's It started out almost identical to the one that you approved for Rick a couple of years ago and we made some slight changes and um you guys had a chance to look at it. I sent it to Tom and he had a couple of really um mostly grammatical things to change and um and then I changed a couple of grammatical things too because you know who can't help but correct the attorney's work. Come on. And so what you have before you is the copy that you should have now

because evidently I don't do I have to do things twice. I click on it. It said it was deleted. Yeah. Mine just said that too. We got a we got it separately and it's in a minute. Got a new link because someone sent you an old draft and they should be fired and I should have their job. Well, I I do appreciate the grammatical corrections because I had a bunch of them on the first agreement an English professor along with being a read police reports for 33 years. So, I'm pretty good at making sure nobody gets in trouble with dotting the eyes and crossing the tees. Do you have any comments on this, Pat? Are you okay with it?

Well, I had one and let me get down to it. It seemed like I had to read through it several times. it just seemed like a real word salad. Um, and there are a couple of those in these agreements. So, it's under uh eight termination. And then if you go down to D, um, I just had to re I had to read that several times. So, this is a little cleaner. This is one of those paragraphs that I cleaned up because you probably read through the first time, remember? And I said I said this doesn't make sense to me, too. So it's a lot cleaner now. Yeah.

And so yeah it's it it is much cleaner. So my question is also there. Um uh under D we use the word you use the word termination and yet if I understand this correctly for some reason we find some cause to ask town manager to resign and he does it and then we accept the resignation but it's classified as a termination. We don't classify it as an involuntary separation.

You know, we use the word termination um in HR really loosely. Um we use it more as as you would use the word separation. So it's a voluntary termination or involuntary termination. So that's I think that's how that word is being used here. So if you say if you give him the opportunity to resign and he does then that would be a voluntary termination even though it's a resignation. So it's a voluntary termination.

So um and again I'm going down the weeds here. So a prospective employer asks us why did the town manager leave? Do we say it was determination? Do we say it was a voluntary resignation? Do we say it was a if it was voluntary? We have photographs which is why you got to get out really these days. Um we can't say much of anything. We can say these are the dates that they worked here which is really unfortunate but that's a whole different conversation. So there's no no problem using the word termination again in that section.

Even though you mean resignation yes there's no problem using the word termination. Then in section nine, not entitled to severance if terminated for cause or if the employee voluntarily resigns and the voluntary resign is actually classified as a termination. Yes. But if you if you just walk in one day and say, you know, you got a haircut, it's a mullet. I've never liked mullets. You're out of here. Then you'd have to pay severance and probably have to get him a haircut. So, got it. Haircut example sold it for me.

Hey, I've kept that one in my back pocket for a long time. You guys have any other questions? Just really quick on that same paragraph nine, the very end. Um, notwithstanding any provision in uh to the contrary, should that be a separate paragraph? Or is this Jack? Well, because we're talking about them being terminated without cause and very the very last one is it's terminated for cause. Yeah, that that does that is I mean it could be separated by it. I think it's okay where it is, but I see I see your point.

Anything else? So, do we have a motion? Town council's reviewed and approves the town manager employment agreement between the town of Springdale and Oh, I did have one more question. I'm sorry. Can I can I back up my ear? Is that okay? Yeah, start over. Not on not on the one more question to Dawn. You can stay there. the in in in the agreement, we use the town address for the town, but we also used Tom's address. If there's a dispute and he's not allowed back in the building, how does he get his mail? You know, I knew you were going to ask that. Just answered it to I wouldn't even have brought it up if you didn't bring up the haircut thing.

I know. I know. I was You're trying to get back at me. So, we used Tom's address because the because Utah has really passed some strict data privacy laws and if we didn't use the town's address for Tom, we would have to redact his address every time this agreement was

was grandma was we would have to have it redacted right here. And it just made it a lot simpler to to use the town's address. and Greg was fine with it. Um, and at the end of the day, I I have Tom's address in in my payroll system and so we always know where to find him and chances are if he moved, we wouldn't have his new address on here anyway, but I would have it in the payroll system. Okay. Anyway, the town council has reviewed and approves the town manager employment agreement between the town of Springdale and Thomas Dansancy and authorizes the mayor to sign A second motion by Pat, second by Randy Pat.

I Randy. All right. Um any any general discussion?

I have something. It's um after our training that we did when uh Roger Carter talked about us looking at the code of conduct for the town and Rick sent that out to us. It's I think it's over 10 years old and it's time for us to relook at that. And I think we ought to have a conversation also about public public um comments and that kind of thing and just kind of clarify what this council wants. And I want to propose that we have a work meeting because I think it'd be a lot to talk about in a meeting like this. If everyone's okay with that, um we could either look at our calendars now or Robin could get stuck trying to get dates from us. Um, Kyla is not here, but I think that if we could narrow it down to when the four of us are available, that would be a really good start. Is that okay?

Just for my notes here to discuss code of conduct or is there something more general you want to say just um Yeah. Let's let's call it code of conduct. Whatever that document was called that Rick sent out to us. I I've got it somewhere here. Let me I'll tell you what it's called. So you get it right there. Uh it's called cond conduct policy and he no

conduct policy and Rick in his in his subject called a town conduct policy for elected appointed and staff and public meeting rules of order and procedure. That's a mouthful. If you look at his memo of February 19th, but the document itself is saying rules of order and procedures for public meetings and public hearings. So, whatever you want to call it. Okay. Uhhuh.

I don't have a preference. Do Do the rest of you have a preference? When is a room most available? Probably during the daytime, huh?

Parties at three. Well, that's that's the day, you know, Rick Rick's retirement party is 3 to 5. What if we did it right after? Is that too inconvenient to set the room up, though? We've got a meeting.

I was going to say that on the 27th we are um what if we did it at 10 or 11? Yeah, we knew that we won't be on the stage. Oh, but what? But this would be so. Okay.

Well, but on the 27th, we do have a meet the town manager here at one. But what Lisa is saying is that there will be a piano here. So, it'd be hard to see. I had this room booked all day and I let you guys have it for that, but I I really need it for the I got a contract with a pianist. Thank you. And this isn't real time sensitive. What if we looked at Friday um April 3rd?

Does that work? I'm thinking 10. Oh, after 11.

12:30. Okay. Yes. And um somebody needs to check with Kylo on that, too,

but I'll bet she's available. on the floor is great. Yeah. So, we said March 20, April 3rd at 12:30. Okay. And I unless there's anything else, I'll entertain a motion to Adjourn second. Motion by Jack, second by Randy Pat. I

barb 609.