Legislative Meeting - Regular Meeting

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Okay, good morning everyone. Welcome to our August 11th, 2026 Board of County Commissioners 9 a.m. Board briefing session. Let the record reflect that all five Commissioners are present. Commissioner Waldrop is on Zoom and the rest of us are here in the conference room. We've got a busy morning, so we're going to go ahead and get started.

Eric Foner, M.D. : Good morning, Madam Chair, Commissioners. Thank you for the opportunity this morning. As with many of them in the last few months, we're here for a real estate purpose. Before I get to that, this is sort of our first public appearance since the fires, and I wanted to convey my both professional and personal appreciation for your Sheriff and over the last week um it's not an easy thing to do to balance public safety and your teams have done it with grace and compassion and i'm just sincerely appreciative so that But with that, I did want to turn it over to Rob. As everybody remembers, the airport has a lot of things that it can do. One of those is not property acquisition. And so we're here today to review on potential acquisitions. I'll turn it over to Rob.

Thank you, Madam Chair, Commissioners. Good morning. We have two items for consideration today. We have a utility easement with Inland Power and Light, and then also a purchase of real estate property. Thank you, Ron. You were timely with that. And so this is our transload site that we have on the west side of our property. This is an easement that's going to allow Inland to provide power for a couple of different things. One, just redundant or duplicate power in terms of what we have out there at the site. Also, it is going to provide power to what is So AEI portal, which is going to essentially read the rail cars that are going to come into the Transload site. That will provide information to us, such as the ownership of the type of car, the products that's in there, destination, those kind of items that's going to be in there. And so that's going to be really critical for us as we start to ramp up activity out of the Transload site to have that in there. So that easement within the power is really critical for us for that power that we're going to have out there, as well as for providing that to that portal for us. And Ron, if you could go to the next one, thank you. That's just a little bit more of a closeup of this. And so that AEI portal I mentioned is gonna come off of the Geiger spur line and the rail line, just on the left-hand side of that chart that you're seeing there, provide power to that. If we could go to the next one, Ron. This is just a little bit more of a close-up in terms of utility easement itself that we have out there in terms of the location of that. So again, really critical for us to have that easement with Inland Power and my company on there. The final one, I think that actually might be the final one. And this is it. So in summary, this is a non-exclusive easement. The Inland Power provides service out there at the rail truck transload site for us, and specifically to also have the AEI portal as part of that service that we have out there. Since this is an easement we have that we do need city and county approval for this one with it. So that is the first item that we have today for consideration by the Board of County Commissioners. the next item is a property acquisition we have this is actually near feldsfield so 7102 east bridgeport this is a residential property that we have out here we do as we always do with property acquisitions we have fair market value appraisal that we do you'll see that here a little bit later in terms of the actual appraisal itself So, appraisal came in at 300,000 dollars. We are authorized by to go over that if needed. So we did actually increase this to a 330,000 dollar offer. So, 10% increased over. This is a residential property has been used for residential during the entire time. It's been developed. So there was no phase 1 environmental that we needed to do. We do have a clear title for this, and considering where this is within relation to the runways at Belts Field, we will end up abolishing the structures that are on that site. I always think it's important to note that we did not pursue this acquisition. The seller actually approached the airport about this and asked if we were interested in acquiring the property. The next couple of slides will just show the overlay zones that we have. So this is within airport compatibility zone number one, as well as within the runway protection zone. So really critical for us to be able to acquire this property just from a high risk standpoint in terms of the approach and departures of the roadways out there. This next slide is just going to show, it's a busy, busy slide, and I'm just going to summarize it really quick and just say this was identified in our master plan back in 2014. If the property became available, that we would try to acquire it. And again, Seller approached us on this, but it fits in perfectly with the master plan we have currently adopted. and then the final one is just the screenshot of the appraisal itself from Bell Bridge for that and with that that's going to conclude my comments I will open it up to any questions Commissioner French so what is the timing on the demolition of that house because the fire and everything it would be nice if we could at least keep it available for rental for

a family that otherwise might not have access to a home.

Yeah, so if you recall, we've been, this is probably the second time in the last month or so that we've been here asking for property acquisition approvals. We have probably four or five, I think, acquisitions, and so we probably won't really get to this until 2027, to be honest with you, just because we're going to try to collate all of those together and just do one contract for the demolition of the properties that we have. So I think it'll probably be a little bit of time before we do demo this particular structure.

yeah it'd be nice if somebody could be in there while they're rebuilding their home and stuff so just we're going to be running out of homes and stuff and so it'd be nice if they could get a place here as opposed to being in moscow idaho just yeah yep absolutely that's a very good thought thank you that'll be more of a decision yeah at the airport airport yeah yeah

Other questions, comments?

Thank you. Very good.

Thank you very much.

Thank you for being here. Good morning.

Good morning. And I don't know if you and Ashley both.

However you like, we can.

how do you guys want to do it i didn't know i'll let you go okay great sounds good so uh you were given the presentation ahead of time so i'm going to kind of go through it pretty quickly uh i think this is more just a formality considering that we have a new process now tpa does have a reserve and we have asked to dip into that reserve um and the hotels have approved admission has approved so this is what you're seeing today so going to kind of go through what our ask was we have a hundred thousand dollar ask out of the reserve and it's going to go directly towards a hotel overnight booking campaign um the objective is to just showcase the spokane hotels um specifically in the tpa roster we're focusing on so we're talking about the hotels that do collect that extra five dollar assessment um and highlight features that in and around the hotels that would make someone interested in coming and actually booking a room. We're working directly with third party booking systems to track overnights. And the goal is obviously always to refill the pot that we're giving it to. In case you're wondering, how is this different from anything you do every other day of the year in terms of generating overnights? Traditionally, when we do TPA dollars, we focus on destination promotion, which includes all the other segments that we talk about with dining, arts and culture, attractions, sports tourism in terms of outdoor activities. This is specifically talking about hotel properties, which we don't normally do only hotel property focus. So you can go to the next slide. So the largest cost out of this campaign is actually to acquire the visual assets. So when you're working with creative assets, they do end up costing a little bit more. So we're doing a full video and photo shoot at multiple hotel properties with hired talent. and in and around the hotels too. So an example of in and around the hotel would be when we talk about Hotel Indigo, which is a TPA hotel, we actually are going to focus on some of the businesses outside of the hotel in terms of photos so that people can know kind of the little district that exists over by Hotel Indigo, which is one property that we're trying to get more people aware of considering that it's just far enough off of the walk-in path from like our downtown core that we need to make sure people are staying in that hotel. So we are spending quite a bit on photo and video assets. One thing to note, too, is any time that we do photo and video collection, we are always thinking evergreen. So we're going to get the best out of our materials to be able to put this into future campaigns that are not only hotel focused, but do have the tourism promotion or destination promotion touch across the board. We'll also have some paid social as well as the third part booking services. engine. When I say third booking, you can think like Bookline, Priceline, TripAdvisor. Those are the big dog real estates out there on the web that we want to purchase plane power in. We do have our own booking system on our website that we offer to the hotels for free. We don't take any cut out of any rooms that are booked through there. But we didn't want to advertise on that site because we're advertising, we're paying to have the exposure on the top dog real estate across the internet. So that's why we're working with the large providers in terms of booking. You can go to the next slide. So this just kind of talks a little bit about the content development. Again, we'll work it into our All Around You campaign, which is our overarching campaign. We use this campaign for both leisure and meetings business. This hotel campaign also does have a meeting-focused demographic angle. We have a model that we're hiring, putting a lanyard on, making sure that people are aware of all the other opportunities to stay outside of just our convention hotels, but our other hotels that are in the downtown core that are easily walkable to the convention center if they do come for it. You can go to the next slide. This just kind of gives a little bit of a breakdown of kind of the storyline behind what we'll be doing. Again, we're not showing people like sleeping in the hotel bed or eating at the continental breakfast. We're actually showing the other things that happen in and around. Another example would be like a jazz night at one of our hotels. We'll have the model focus story on that, meeting people. We'll be able to use those photos again for this campaign and future campaigns when we talk about nightlife and things to do after 5 p.m. Go to the next page. So this is our investment breakdown. You can see that content development is $22,000. Then the next highest price is our third-party booking agents. We have a few examples on there, Booking.com, Expedia, and Adara. I think we actually did land with Priceline for this. When we created this slide, this was before we knew exactly what we were going for. Because when we create these presentations for the TPA Commission is to give them an idea of what we'd like to spend on, and then they either approve and say, yes, move forward to go sign contracts, or they say, no, we're not interested. Thankfully, they were interested. In addition to the online booking, we'll have some meetings pre-roll, like I mentioned, which means we'll have some information directed towards convention goers, which is, of course, our highest spender in terms of demographic when they come to Spokane County. And then we will be working with some influencer situations where we have a large social following in terms of getting influencer to stay in some of these hotels. And then last but not least, we will have also publication, which is more of a traditional ad style with a hard print scenario. Not as easy to track. Go to the next. Out of this campaign, we'll have a content toolkit that we will be able to give to the hotels. So every hotel that we photograph, And video is going to be getting their assets for them to use on their own site as well. So they're going to leverage our dollars in our marketing consultation and our talent and be able to use it in their own marketing. We'll also give them the full breakdown of where ads were shown, where they were displayed so that if they do want to add additional marketing dollars of their own. um they can bump up the ad in in the areas that we're also promoting this this campaign will go to visitors across the country it will not be regional it will be aimed to get people that are living at 50 to 100 miles plus outside of the area to come and stay in spokane next page So this just kind of details the types of reporting that we're going to be giving back to the hoteliers, so not just to the TPA commission. We'll have a full dashboard tracking our ROI of our marketing spend. Because this is a very focused and niche campaign specifically for hotel overnights, We're going to have very specific metrics that we're tracking in regarding that. And the hope is that this does well, and then this can become a yearly, if not every other year campaign that we can kind of boost and use the same amount of visuals. So we're not spending as much money year over year in terms of advertising, but we do want to have a specific campaign that is helping directly the hotels and not indirectly through our destination promotions. You go to the next page. And you can actually skip through that and go to the next slide. So this is the timeline. So during quarter two, which we're in, wait, part two, what are we in? We just finished quarter two, that's right. So we've already been working on this. This is a little bit of a delayed presentation. We've already got all of our content photographed in video. So we're working on slicing that all together and creating the published versions of that content. And then when we see Q3, Q4, we're starting to put that into pre-roll and into advertising. We have some buildup that we need to do on our website. So that's happening right now in Q3. But these ads will run starting in Q3. They will run through into next year. So in through our kind of low season, which would be our our occupancy at the county is usually much lower from now. November through February that we want to see more be aware. Yes, we have s those are very concentrated hoteliers need to see occ throughout the year and throughout midweek across the board. So not only on a few weekends a year. So this will run through kind of our low period, and then we'll be able to give a final report out mid-year next year for the hoteliers. And of course, we're happy to also send that report to you if you are interested in reading hotel data. So that's how we're using our dollars. This was approved by the TPA Commission. And then we do have a contract, given ACO who's still working around to help us get that going. So that's everything's beneficial. Again, like I said, I think today was just to give you a little insight into kind of what we're working on in this specific ask with these dollars. And there could be potential asks in terms of reserve money in the future from both Visit Spokane and Spokane Sports.

Any questions?

uh so it's not all sort of no okay no we haven't drained the reserve and we have to remember too just a couple of talking points um this is a industry approved assessment that the hotels can control and manage but the county acts as our facilitator and holding the reserve so um we can track and see kind of what's going on but ultimately at the end of the day if the tpa commission moves forward with approving um then we work with the county to get that handed over

and I moved to DPA and been on the board, but the commission is advisory, is that correct?

The commission is that.

Okay. Yeah. And the board kind of approves the allegations.

Right, and Chris is kind of asking you the question.

Yeah, no, I'm ex officio on that.

Yeah.

Yes. So that's kind of the advisory group. I have a voice, but not a vote. You have a vote here. Correct. Okay, all right.

Well, he has a vote, and it's a Spokane vote, so it kind of balances out. Um, yeah, it's never we've never had an issue where the TPA commission has approved and the county has denied. And if that did happen, there would probably be some. Conversations with you to have, but I think I think we're all good.

I also wanted to say thank you from the Tourism International Group. You secured a donation for fire victims through that. And then you had a great list that I know was circulating of open hotel rooms for fire evacuees or victims to utilize as well.

Thanks, Josh.

Everybody's doing their part and you're doing a big part too.

We were able to get $20,000 into the destination, which is pretty great. And hopefully that will grow with members being asked to also donate. Half of that is going to Spokane Home Relief. The other half is going to Big Table, which helps directly for hospitality individuals. And we've asked that that money goes to those that have been displaced that are needing an extra bump. So we'll work with Chris at Big Table for that. And then we also have updated our travel advisory page on our website, which we didn't We haven't had to update really since COVID. So if COVID taught us one thing is that there's some crisis communication platform that we could actually reactivate. We also had some conversations with Maui and Pasadena, California, and we're able to tap into our colleagues toolkit on kind of how they handled. So now we are officially entering into like recovery mode. Our travel advisory page is talking about how we are open. And the best thing you could do is visit to like support these businesses to put money back into the economy, but to travel with caution. And we've given them kind of steps on how they could do that, as well as linking back to the county's page, the Novia's community crisis page, and ways to also help if they're interested in donating. And we'll continue to manage that lodging list until it's no longer needed. So that is also live, and we've given that to media as well. And I would say last two, kudos to the county. I'll echo what Dave said. You guys have done a great job. And I've seen a few of you on the news as well. And I mean, nobody wants these things to happen. And I think we've handled it. You all have handled it very well. And it's not the best way to be a national spotlight, but if we can elevate kind of the neighbors helping neighbors stories now moving forward, I think that that's going to be a great national story for us to kind of leverage like a Spokane rising scenario. So it'll be very.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Appreciate it.

Ashley Blake, I'm on staff at Spokane Sports. So our mission is to strengthen our community with the power of sport. And we do that by creating, bidding, and facilitating impactful sporting events for our community. The request that you have in front of you today is for U.S. Figure Skating Synchronized Ice Skating Championship. So this is an event that was four weeks ago just added to the Olympic agenda. So you'll see this competed in both the 2030 and the 2034 Olympic Games. Spokane's a finalist to host the event, which would take place in February of 2028. Can you advance to the next slide, please? So a little bit of a profile on it. This event would bring about 17,000 athletes to our market. They would contract about 3,000 hotel room nights for our community. And our request is for $80,000 to build on that effort. We believe that with some targeted marketing and community engagement that we can add another 20% of the room nights on top of that. Next slide, please. So this is really a regional event. The primary competition venue would be the Spokane Arena, but we would rent sheets of ice from Eastern Washington University, from the new Two Sheet Ice Complex in the Valley, as well as Eagles Ice, because of the volume of practice that these teams need when they come into our marketplace. So our request is split really between three categories, that first one, is awareness is focused on our regional media reach. So focused on our drive market. So Washington, Idaho, Montana, in that hundred mile radius and further out. The second one is conversions. So working with our schools and our clubs and really our grassroots efforts to encourage people to get up to the event and experience it. And the last one, one of the requirements for our bid was to have a community engagement. What's the legacy? What's the leave behind of this event? So we've been working with some of our partners locally talking about What's the equipment leave behind? Could we work with these high-level athletes to do a camp or a clinic in our marketplace? So right now, Spokane is a finalist for this event. February of 2028, they're reviewing bids in the next two weeks. And this is something that I could go back to the governing body with and say, hey, we submitted our bid, but now I'm able to sweeten the pot. Our community has got behind this request. And we really, it would essentially transition us from just hosting the event to really amplifying and making the biggest impact of this.

any questions I can answer around this one so um so I guess timing yes um so if if they're making a decision in two weeks is that what you're saying yes um so if if we don't get it then I'm sorry we need it correct yeah so this is a 80 000 request contingent on us winning the bid

um and for context on kind of the greater picture of course spokane has a storied history with u.s figure skating um we're finalists for synchronized ice skating championships and we're also in some pretty in-depth conversations around the big we have right now for the figure skating nationals and that would be uh in 2027 or 2028 so regardless of of you know what the event is or what the order is we we think we have a really good chance of um posting a high impact figure skating button community in the next Oh, in the reserve. yeah same same course of action as visit spokane this would be coming from the reserves um we brought this to the dpa commission oh so this isn't coming out of ours coming up right yeah

At the bottom of the slide, it says TPA requests.

For some reason, on my screen, they're sideways, so I can't.

There's a little arrow thing in the corner. You can rotate them. Right-click it.

Just a question. Right-hand corner of the screen, there's a little arrow. It's in a circle.

You're in... You're using a different thing than the MTN browser.

Sorry.

So if it's approved next week, is that in time for the reviewing of the applications to kind of be effective?

Yeah, I think it's as simple as, okay, I have an opportunity to send her additional resources from our community. This is in the works, and it's really more about Amy Nunez, sort of just spokane sports coming to the table with a bed it's Pam my communities behind me, we really see this as an opportunity to leverage this so is there a is there a date certain when the winner will be announced to say. Amy Nunez, that's a good question and it'll be a little bit for us to get through the partnership phase the contracting. I can circle back with a specific date. That's helpful.

Yeah, it just sounds like if we approve it next week, you can send it in. They're still waiting, so that's good. Just trying to get a sense of the timing.

Yeah, even a status update, I can go to them, you know, come online today and say, hey, I had an opportunity. We're working towards securing additional resources. Of course, there's future steps, but I think that a good faith effort goes far as well.

You know, right off hand, how much is in the TPA reserves?

It's pay. It's in the 370s, but range.

Yeah. Okay. Okay. We checked with budget and finance, and they have sufficient resources to pick up both these contracts.

Yes. And just as a reminder, too, it's continuing to fill billing. So we have it goes 1% or 2% of what is overall collected. It's going in there.

So just, Chris, I'm understanding all of this for the first time, but when you bid on an event like this, does it, how does it relate to any kind of current events that might be thought of to these, those spaces?

So we have a city-wide calendar that we run through, and we have a business review that we work with with our hotels and facilities where we look at these opportunities. What does the availability look like in the city? February is a mid-period for our market, so we tend to target the shoulder season. Where can we drive revenue? This is an extended stay event as well, so I believe it's around seven days from the competition to move out.

you go through that process every time to make sure that space is available and others aren't displaced yes sir yeah it's a pretty extensive business review that um our hotels and our facilities and our key stakeholders sign up to do it um so again next week's agenda for us excellent thank you very much Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you. Yes.

How are you?

How are you?

You were out. All right. So we'll just let you start. OK. Misty Griffith, therapeutic coordinator for district court. And we're just here today. We were allocated funding from AOC as we typically are each year. Excuse me. We did apply for that. We're awarded that money. The total amount of that is two hundred forty seven or two hundred forty seven thousand dollars. $695.27. And the cost categories for that, they break that up for us and give us cost categories that we have to fall within. Personnel costs is $120,000. Staff equipment and technology, $347.35. Team training and travel, $16,000. Recovery supports, $16,347.92. TREATMENT SERVICES 95,000 AND MAJORITY OF THIS FUNDING DOES GO DIRECTLY TO OUR PARTICIPANTS. BUT THERE IS SOME THAT DOES GO TO TEAM TRAINING AND TRAVEL SO THAT WILL AFFECT OUR GENERAL BUDGET.

It's my first time doing this, so I can feel my face. No, you're great. Thank you.

Amy Nunez, Okay, the question i'm just yeah the findings are there any questions, Mr George so it's just renewing what we get every year yeah and we did, I think, in a little bit more, but even in the in the budget crisis that we're in. Amy Nunez, Yes, every every little bit.

Amy Nunez, We are chair. Amy Nunez, Okay, any other questions for mistake. Amy Nunez, Great. All right. Thank you. Well, wow. Check that one off the list. Thank you so much.

Thank you. You too. Hello. How's it going, everybody?

Obviously, real quick, very similar to what you've been seeing already this morning. We have a grant that we've continually received from Commerce for our victim witness. We net $61,052. That covers 66% of the cost. So we're just seeking the renewal on this. It's one that we can apply directly to our victim services.

that's about all i got i say yes sure no i think that's one of those we as as we've seen it's like support for victims and discussing everything so anything we can get and help and we were blessed this year and that there was some additional monies that we had applied for from commerce so we uh two days so directly for victim services so that was not very helpful there's a finite amount left yeah as long as we have you here and your sheriff's here it's like I just want to say thank you for all the hard work that all of you guys have done this last um week and a half um it's been hard on everybody you guys have been stellar and then being able to um find a person who on the arson side and your job and helping with that. I know it's a team effort on all of that. I just bring hearts out to everybody. So thank you for all the hard work that you guys have done.

I appreciate that. And I did plan on saying thank you to all of you as well. This last week that our community has been going through, seeing the time and to deal with. So I'm very, very thankful to all that you've been doing. And I've been letting folks know that our board is very, very actively engaged in trying to help our community rebuild. Obviously, the Sheriff's Office did an awful job in their investing in a side of this. And we're going to do our best as law permits on the prosecution side. Everybody's been really together and I love seeing seeing the Community in the heartbeat that we've seen this last week and a half, so good job to all.

People don't understand all that goes on behind the scenes problem that I mean to the yeah to to what you guys did what you're doing, but also judges that have to be part of part of it to give. provide warrants and all of that.

And our judges, I do want to give them a shout out too. Hats off to them. They came across from our Superior Court and History Court to work and find harmony to ease the burden on our community. They suspended jury trials via emergency order for a couple of weeks so that way you're not sending out jury summons. That has a huge impact too. So you're not dealing with the anxiety of, I'm going to file a contempt of court if I don't show up for this thing. But also just making sure that operations are working well, so I thought are those three levels of judicial branches did a phenomenal job working working together so that's that's important. Randall Difuntorum, City of Boulder OSMP, Anyways, well, thank you for the two big any questions on have a question for pressing those.

Randall Difuntorum, City of Boulder OSMP, The board is taking a harder look at smaller level grants, because it costs our administration and significant amount to administer them, why is victim witnesses awesome.

So this is huge in the sense, and just like what Commissioner Forks mentioned, we've been seeing support for victim services at a statewide level drop, right? And so this is incredibly important because that victim advocate, the 66%, we have attributed to our juvenile advocate. We've seen an explosion in juvenile violent crime. We have a lot of firearm-related crimes and sex crimes that happen for a human. And it's really important to be able to have that person there help victims waive fines through that process. So it's incredibly important to make sure that we're fulfilling our statutory obligations, not beating victims in our case.

And it's been an important piece that we keep bringing up because we've been helping teachers that having lived experiences, having lived experience on both sides of the judicial system and how important it is to have that perspective from both.

Yeah, it is important because I think sometimes we get myopic in the view of what is lived experience. When I sit across from the table, of a family that's lost their loved one or their son or daughter has been raped or abused in some form or fashion. I promise you that's lived experience as well. That needs to be first and foremost when we're setting policy.

Thank you. All right. Thank you.

Yeah.

Am I next?

You're next, and I know you guys are, like, exhausted.

First, the Sheriff's Office appreciates the acknowledgement of the efforts, but I will say, you know, I would give 100% credit to the people who are working the patrol the deputies the commanders on the field as far as the you know effectiveness of the the evacuations and the way things went smoothly that night that no one was hurt that we know of yet and also just some basic you know boots on the ground following your gut uh law enforcement workers is is what identified the suspect and detained him and questioned him appropriately and and then the follow-up investigative work you know found enough probable cause of charitable crimes so a lot of great work done in a short amount of time by by our our rank and file deputies on on the scene and throughout the day so we appreciate the acknowledgement but a lot you know all the credit goes to them so

Yeah, and was it also citizens that helped?

Yes, and the real-time crime center as well. So just a collaborative effort of the community and our law enforcement and just people out there working and just following their gut and doing what they believe is right.

And how many people did you evacuate in a matter of like three hours?

thousands and thousands yeah and it was it was so it was moving so quickly you know and then also collaboration with the city of spokane and their law enforcement you know to get those communities evacuated as well uh you know it's it's incredible that nobody that we know of so far has been hurt i know some of you were in those evacuation times you know so it seemed like forever i think on on the citizen side but

But when you step back and look at how many thousands of people you evacuated in a short amount of time is pretty amazing.

If you would have asked me if it was possible, I would have said no before it happened. It's crazy how fast the IMT teams that came into Spokane from California said this is the most effective evacuation I've ever seen. unfortunately we're getting good at it um you know that's the unfortunate I mean it's I'm glad we are but that's it's it's uh because of necessity and that's what's the unfortunate part yeah All right, I have a few quick things and then something that might take a little longer, but first is we're requesting the acceptance of our yearly registered sex offender address verification program award from the from Waspik. It's for $321,402. This is the money that we use to pay for overtime for detectives and deputies to go out and verify addresses on all the sex offenders that we have in our community. All right. The next is the interagency agreement between the Washington State Criminal Justice Training Commission and the Sheriff's Office for a contract for Director Tony Anderman for him to complete some work with them, the curriculum development and structural design that he does for the basic law enforcement and other training. They compensate us not to exceed $52,768 that they sent back to us for his work. We use that money to offset salary in different areas for the deputy director, mostly. And they're working between July 1 and June, or July 1, 2026, and June 30, 2027.

Makes us very proud that we have Tony with us because he is definitely seen as the expert.

He would humbly say no, but he's probably one of the statewide experts or maybe even nationwide experts in this field. The next is the grant application for ESHB 2015. We are submitting a grant. What's that called? Oh, that's it. We were submitting a grant for $5 million or an ask for $5,758,000. It's a change. This will go to fund the staff in the real-time crime center. One staff member in DEM. It'll add a civilian position to the air support unit to coordinate so we can take those duties away from commissioned deputies and put it, you know, so they don't have to do that. We don't pay overtime to do it. uh the training unit uh seven instructional support contracts uh for various training de-escalation crisis ai simulated training software this also covers software in addition to the personnel and then spokane valley police would like to hire two deputies to do jail transport kind of a paddy wagon type design And that's why Chief Ellis is here to talk about, and then a part of the enforcement officer. Show those questions.

Mine would be, my understanding is we haven't heard back on whether the state has approved the application in order to qualify for this. So do we know, is that, are we going to get an answer soon?

We haven't heard back, but we, but some, the lack of responses is I think sort of good news because they're not saying that we're not in compliance with the bunch. We knew there were some things that we'd have to work on. We knew that they would find some issues, but we have plans on dealing with those. So we haven't heard back. I don't know if they have a community yet or if they have, and it's in compliance.

so do you wait until they say you're good and then you submit the application tomorrow oh before they've even you know oh yeah there's like the cutoff for the applications that's happening across the state okay yeah so that um because I know even County hasn't gotten their application approved yet either but everybody has to have their grant applications in so the county's application

be sending some questions over so it it is in process okay it's like you still got to get this stuff in otherwise you don't even have an opportunity for any of this uh and you'll note the real-time crime center positions are

they're existing now but their funding runs out at the end of this year so we'll be we're we're seeking funds to continue them as positions that aren't going to exist after this year so that's right yeah and then uh in Spokane Valley these are new positions um there's a 25 cost share with the jurisdiction but I believe the Valley is understands that they're okay with that so

I think we're going to go after the funds. I thought there'd be more questions. Yeah.

We got to go after the funds and hopefully get them to help us.

do they go into that i guess will it be made clear to these individuals that this is grant funded and when the grant funding runs out so that could mean position runs out too yeah and that's been you know frankly we've been clear to the real-time crime center employees this whole time that that that was the case right they were they're hired for from arpa funds and and so this is that you know this would be a continuation of that if we receive these funds do a certain date and the Spokane Valley positions I mean that you know that would be on the valley if they wanted to continue the funding which I believe they're all foreign nobody's gonna come back to the commissioners and say the commissioners cut those positions are they I would hope not yeah I would never say that okay I appreciate that no that's why we put it in the job description that's why it's it's it's very upfront

quick question so do we have to sign off on the grant application or you're just informing us that it's being made well yeah and I I don't know the I believe the LCC would have to sign off yeah they the board did request we had a grant discussion a while back um and the board did request that all applications come forward for for

another thing i'll point out sorry the asu position is also a new position that is not currently funded as a separate fte however our plan is or what our intention is if we receive the funding for this is to remove that funding from asu and and use that the funding that we already have for asu that we're already using we're using commission people to do and move that over and reduce the budget by that much to cover it so it won't be an additional budget asked. It shows they are supporting. They are supporting, yes. Sorry. Am I speaking acronyms?

I've heard a lot of acronyms the last 10, 11 days.

I was trying to help. It's sad that I know, and I'll say it's me, actually. So this just needs...

It looks like the largest ticket item on here is the training software avatar. Can you talk about that a little bit?

I wish I could, but I don't know much about it. It's simulated training software. This is a Tony and training center thing that he's been working on i i can bring him in and have him talk more about it or what it is he would he'd be the i would just be reading notes that he he wrote and i don't have those in front of me i believe they're in your packet but i can follow up separately yeah yeah so do we i guess the question is does this have to be on the two o'clock but

Yeah, we haven't been doing legislative approval to two o'clock, just like yesterday when I brought up the one for Ashley Callan. Yeah, so when the award comes in, that's when you can say, no, we don't want this at two o'clock, or yes, we do. But just like yesterday when I did that quick one for Ashley, just kind of a head nod, which was a decision by someone else who descended it.

is there any type of match with this i i think i saw a reference to just one match here but it was a it wasn't a very large dollar amount but i've only seen them the matches on the spoken valley side for the cool it's only for those ones not for any of the stuff we're okay that applies to commission officers got it yeah okay yeah any commission officers you hire yeah it's 25 yeah 25 yeah okay but not if we're using it for civilians or software or attack right now

TAB, Mark McIntyre:" All right, and then the last thing I have is the lateral hiring bonus program which expired at the end of June, I believe we're asking for another. TAB, Mark McIntyre:" year extension on it, we do not anticipate filling any of our vacancies until the beginning of next year anyway, so this is just to get ahead of it, so this is again it's not we're not asking for any kind of monetary bonus, this is a. TAB, Mark McIntyre:" incentive program that allows sick and vacation balances for lateral. deputies coming over from agencies where they've been established and have second you know leave balances from both agencies so what did we settle on for the amount the time oh it's 180 hours uh vacation um and 180 hours of sick time i thought it was 120. i thought we were looking at reducing that amount i think it was requested at one movie on the border at 120. TAB, Mark McIntyre:" Okay yeah i'm fine with the 120 I think it's is. TAB, Mark McIntyre:" it's not irrelevant but it's it's a. TAB, Mark McIntyre:" It still provides the benefit that we want and. TAB, Mark McIntyre:" Yes, and it's not. TAB, Mark McIntyre:" Excessive yeah. TAB, Mark McIntyre:" And in our minds.

TAB, Mark McIntyre:" Right, no I get it yeah. TAB, Mark McIntyre:" yeah so I that's what I was thinking, as I was asking. TAB, Mark McIntyre:" We we had that number down for. TAB, Mark McIntyre:" Not a problem.

TAB, Mark McIntyre:" Yep. I probably just forgot, which I do. But we should check with.

We can double check on what the original was. I believe the original was 180. So now that you said that, my brain is working and I seem to remember a conversation about reducing it, but I just totally forgot.

Okay. So that was my recollection. So we moved it down to 120. So especially since you're full at this point in time and we've got to figure out where we're at on the budget.

And yeah, and we fully understand that, you know, the money is not an option anymore. And so we're trying to stick in different ways. And this has been pretty successful. We've had a lot of positive feedback.

It's really good. We see a lot of our non-reps, I would say, that as they come in are higher level individuals, they get some bank time. So that's part of the contract.

Go ahead.

Okay.

Thank you.

Yeah, we guys got off easy since it's been a tough week. But again, thank you all and thank everybody. I mean, because everyone has done just a phenomenal job.

We will. Thank you.

Okay, is Tori there?

She don't mind. 50-50 on whether she's on, yeah. you don't see her online. Here she comes. There she goes.

Good morning.

Any adjustment out of the hallway? So I figured I'd stay. It's going to be good news.

Ready to go.

We are ready. Thank you.

Thank you. So we're just going to present an update on the Becca dollars. We've had meetings on these, so just very brief history, because I know all the one here is I understand last year we went through a severe cut of state funds for the VECA program, which includes average youth, child and native service petitions, and fluency. We were forced to pare down significantly to meet the statutory required duties of the court and the county lost quite a bit of the supports particularly for the schools as part of the truancy program and case managers for the youth involved in the children's youth program there has been a legislative funding for additional funds and so the question then was how do we then allocate those as we did last year when we first had the legislative a tenant came out, we devised a allocation of those. And then when we got an update from AOC on basically what things could be used for, they had included some areas that were ones that I know is important to the county and the commissioners to see if we could utilize those funds for. And so we developed basically three scenarios that we could utilize. Scenario one is reflective of our original TAB, Mark McIntyre, concept, the best things about scenario one is it is clearly. TAB, Mark McIntyre, Consistent with the legislative intent of the new dollars and it gives I think the most Community value and support for the schools and use. TAB, Mark McIntyre, The scenarios, two and three, which we have proposed. TAB, Mark McIntyre, are taking into account some other. departments that were not included in the original legislative intent that seemed to be included in these forms on allocation of the funding. So there's just three caveats I want to make for the utilization of the updated scenarios. The first is that the legislative intent, I think, was much narrower than what AOC appears to be open to letting us utilize. And some of the concerns with taking them up on that opportunity, is there was some fallout between legislatures and our court administration, juvenile administration, because of various positions on BECA, primarily the uses of warrants, incarceration, some other tools that were removed legislatively that many in juvenile justice didn't feel was a good thing to remove from the toolbox. And so there's been a lot of work to rebuild those relationships since then. And I think these funding shows that that is being successful. So there's always a risk that when you're doing things really outside of what the legislatures had wanted, you could get into a position where you might ruffle some feathers. So it's just a reality that the specific language is a little, narrower than what we can apply here but again aoc seemed to indicate we could do it so i believe we can do it so and we understand it's important it's important to be a good accounting partner it's important considering all the issues we're facing for the general fund the second caveat is percentage gr42 which involves the um court's involvement in public defense it does not explicitly prohibit funding a public defense position through the court it may be contrary to perhaps the intent of gr42 but i don't see that it explicitly is prohibited we just have to know that that is an area that we've been somewhat uncomfortable with from the funding aspect of why it's not technically management of the public defense from the courts it may touch on that so it's just something to be aware of and the final caveat is the bench still has to approve the final Planning allocations. That's the one that's giving the authority to allocate the funds. I have looped in presiding the executive committee, so they're all aware of this. We just have not had a full bench on what scenario we wanted to present to the county here. Get the commissioner's feedback. It would be our preference, I believe, to present the scenario that includes a staff support that is the one that has doesn't have it has still general fund savings, but less savings to the general fund, because the concern is about that.

do you have those they're not in our patch i'm scrolling through i'm like there's the important part

They are labeled. Those should be labeled there. So we'll get some copies. That would actually make more sense.

They're all kind of like licking, going off.

That's perfect. We'll get to those specifics in a moment. While we're waiting for the copies, I want to say they brought in scenario one. we requested from a budget perspective you know my world's fiscal that they would look at doing some things that would help the general fund specifically the clerk's office and public defense they came back with options two and three which did that we're very appreciative of that the the contract did come with more options than the underlying legislation set. So that gave us some flexibility the way the contract was written. It clearly said we could help both the clerk and public defense. And so we were appreciative that they revisited it. I like number three because it saves the most money. But number two and number three are hiring a lot of outside attorneys, which is going to be expensive.

The good things on these, and especially these savings, and when we say savings, they're actual savings because these are taking on things that are already being paid for. So we're really outside of the world of juvenile court. We're really not creating anything new. So the fundings will be direct funding. It's not like creating a new public defender position that has to be funded. It's just funding the current public defender doing the chins and clerk work and the prosecutor position that's being funded is just supplementing someone who's already being paid from general funds these will be actual general fund savings even all three scenarios add savings it's just more significant under two and three because it does take care of primarily that public defense position that's already doing the chins and that was youth work uh and it uh takes on that clerk funding where we see the most uh benefits i'll let y'all look at the clerk's office it doesn't save a profession that will be fun

How long do you think these funds were going to have these funds? Because we saw last year they were bringing them back, but they should be again. So if we

We'll have them from we expect to start to if we're able to get this through October to July through the fiscal year, and then we will see. I will tell you that when we sat here last year, I thought we were going to see more cuts in the next year, and actually we had added to so. that was a good sign. I think they heard the things that I think this board and our conversations were having about the importance of these type of work. And so that actually got more support than I thought, which is good. So we know we haven't for a year and that's the other side. And one other just understanding is that if this funding goes away, the court wouldn't necessarily be responsible for keeping the public defense funded. And these are things outside of the course department that we're going into. So if it changes in July, it's back as, I think, an executive responsibility because of just how the allocation. But as long as we keep receiving the funding, I think it is possible that it will then continue. I do not think they would up funding or even potentially continue it. So that's a good sign.

No, it is. Or is your group talking to legislators again?

Absolutely. I think that's a large part of why we got this money is collecting what was shared with them originally. And also there were a lot of legislators that realized they got bad information and were a little frustrated about that. So we made them even look closer at the work being done. So I do think that. My groups work with gender script. Sj. We have the same blog. Yes, the same work closely on this issue. So yes, my biggest concern is what Judge Schmidt shared is ruffling some feathers. We can work closely with some of them, and if this money is not spent with the intent is direct services to kids. That's my bigger concern, because that can have larger consequences for juvenile court funding in general. Future legislative requests. However, AOC took the contract that we used to have and just did a, here's your new contract, without putting in the new language requirements and restrictions. So it's allowed. It'll just take education.

So if you see now with the different scenarios, the savings, there's savings in all three, but it's more heightened for shoe and three. There's about a $60,000 difference, which really is the difference of two and three. TAB, Mark McIntyre. : What was before the support staff. TAB, Mark McIntyre. : addition, as opposed to necessarily the supervisor, that is just because right now, one of these cuts came spirit will cut to. TAB, Mark McIntyre. : full time employees to accommodate the cuts last year, you will have to fix cuts as well, so we have one staff member sort of coordinating between that multiple juvenile system. which this covers the criminal side and then the dependency termination side and the child welfare side. So we would be concerned that without that staff addition and staff support, we could see potentially issues in terms of forging all three. We will see potential uptick in filings in this other area. So that's the court's preference and that's why the top there's a scenario number at the top yeah so two is the statement it does not have as much general fund savings by about sixty thousand dollars but it does i think provide the best value and will ensure the best coordination throughout the juvenile court system expect to see an uptick in filings under this system so that's why we've i think

they didn't say the best of the properties for that scenario which one two two's kind of the consensus position can you walk me through so all three of them two truancy case managers is there yep on I guess two of the three you have the ary public defender on one it's esd contracts that one's different all of them have the paralegal prosecutors yes two of them have the clerk and I guess all three have a different one sort of in the $80,000 to $75,000 range. Can you just walk through what changes with each of those?

Scenario one, it was very court focused, so we didn't have the outside of the court system because the original legislative instruction was that you needed to essentially create New people that are giving direct services to you, as opposed to supplement existing staff.

So is that the ESD contract that takes care of that?

Yeah, so that was where a lot of that came in. So then when we shifted, our first priority was to, well, our priority was to maintain the case management, which is the truancy, which we don't have currently. which i think is the most important part clearly within the legislative directive the prosecutor's support is to help support schools directly in their filing which is necessary to get these cases in to court or at least to do so more efficiently because that's where we've seen the most negative impact on our schools it's just navigating the legal process And then the clerk and public defender were the 2 issues that we knew, I think, were the most important counties of the other departments and where they were most easily. in, as I indicated in my original presentation, we think that out of all the other departments, the clerks were going to be the most impacted by this. And so including them made a lot of sense. And then this would help supplement the public defense side, which I know is an important countywide issue and one that we could, I think, based on AOC's contractual language, comment. So those are the big difference. The real difference between the two and three is the public defenders are

representing these kids. So I mean, it's correct.

So the public defenders are currently doing it for at-risk youth in CHINS matters, and you're not adding them to also do truancy matters, though they have historically done that, which is because it's not statutorily required. I don't think it's a good time to create more work for our Public Defense Office, but we can at least supplement the current work that's being done without creating more work. Justin Delacruz, As well, so it doesn't I knew that was a concern for the county, whether it becomes another on the mandate where it's like hey you have money, but now you have to do is it cost you more this doesn't do that this is. Justin Delacruz, I think, from my perspective, your separation, the only areas that will have some added workload will be achievable court, and I think. As the atmosphere, the chins are still going on as normal. I don't think this changes that just something that's public defense. That's another side from the legislative perspective that this was very currency focused in terms of. The allocation, but then again, on the general funding contractually, it was encompassed. I received the chin, so we figured we could use it for those areas.

In scenario one and three, it's 50% of lead worker in one. And in scenario three, it's 50% of BECA supervisor. And then scenario two, it's support staff juvenile court. They're all about the same price. In scenario one and three, I mean, it's 50% of just a different position, but it's the same cost. Does something change there? I mean, it's just they're covering half of one position or half of another position.

The staff position would be new.

Oh, okay.

The lead worker would not. The lead worker is currently doing this under general fund funding. TAB, Mark McIntyre:" Okay scenarios one and two or one and three season we anticipated supplementing that with this money, so that was whether savings in all three plans. TAB, Mark McIntyre:" Scenario three has that supplementation as opposed to having a new staff member to coordinate. Randall Difuntorum, City of Boulder OSMP, I think, which we think is important, and why there's a difference between the two, so that position would remain under the general fund that's why there's slightly less savings under scenario to give that position would continue to work as it's doing that.

Randall Difuntorum, City of Boulder OSMP, And that is the same position, so my apologies for that it's not clear a lead worker in the second supervisor. okay so that's that's my error and same on the um it is correct on the original at 75 000 again that's the roughest so it is 75 in scenario three as well it's just a scenario one follows legislative intent scenario two and three gives your wishes and like he said partnership for funding other departments those questions and those will go away if we do not get refunded as will um the support staff that we bring in so the the esd contract was

that was an idea to kind of provide more space case management correct it was an idea to essentially instead of creating another in-house position to create one through the school uh but in light of how we want to allocate this and utilize it we thought it was better to prioritize in-county supports um there's always a preference to having it within our umbrella as much as possible particularly if we have to pick and choose so before

it's all work on this no they did have yeah they did have some in-house because before they get the kids get to us school and that's in the law does a lot of work right there are certain stuff they have to take yeah there's the community engagement reports and then that is not those staff members yeah because it is required by law but it's minimum and our largest school district is no longer filing the amended petition because they have not received the services of case managers so they say why so we're not getting any help we've already tried steps one two three your step four now you don't have case managers to use them

funding gets put in place we will be certainly both from that aspect and also because of the support individual from the prosecutor's office um before the prosecutors did a great job of navigating this for the schools essentially mr mcclellan has been great in helping in the transition periods significantly and but just not in the way that they were able to do before and moving them for the schools in this legal process because it's still a court process and it's still hard for people who are underrepresented to navigate that so we will see an uptick in funding and for those various reasons the plus side of that is funding has historically been tied to violence and so if funding continues we should see that proportional increase if it relies on historical models to

And I think the idea here is that, say, if you can file it, it's not that the court's trying to crave work for itself. It's that it's addressing a need that's currently not being met that needs to be met because of funding. So that's kind of the distinction. It's, this thing's already happening and needs to be addressed, and the court didn't have the funding.

So we have an exceptional voting capacity.

prosecutor's office and just familiar with the way we find that process and transition from school to court. So not an additional burden necessarily on the staff perspective to have that regard for the same relation to the case.

every iteration encompasses having the two trees occasionally so that's that's that kind of for patients can someone just really quickly what is the difference between two and three and i'm having a hard time following the charts the big difference between two and three is two creates a new position of a staff support person that's going to help

internally navigate the filings, scheduling. That doesn't exist currently. Three, instead of creating that new position, just provides funding for a position that's already doing that lead work. So that's the main difference, and that's why we see a savings difference between the two.

We hired a new person that would still be involved in. That's the main difference.

So I'm clear. On scenario one, the ESD contract, is that an individual, is that just a contract for ESD to do work or is it hiring an individual that, would ESD hire a new individual to do that work? And if they would, do they sort of segregate them to just Spokane County? Because ESD service area is like, it's a bulk of Eastern Washington, right?

it would be contractual so the funding would be we would be able to limit the contract to relation to the funding source. Okay. I truly I don't anticipate that we would go with scenario one because of where the value of what we're trying to do. And I know the priority of the county from the general fund issues. But if we were to utilize that or create that position in the future, it would just be a contract position that they need to do X, Y and Z to get these fundings so that they're supporting internally direct service. Yeah, that's a good question. My thought, ultimately, this is an interesting scenario because ultimately the court has the allocation, but the county commissioners have to accept the grant funding. So my preference would be to know that the county would be supportive of either scenario two or three, whichever the court decides. There was a preference or issue. Certainly we'll discuss that as the bench as well, because then I think the next step would be the best way to prove and say we will allocate the funding for one of these two scenarios with an understanding that the county will accept the funding and then we can get this going in October is our current start time based on what needs to happen. So I think that's the next step. If you all believe that this would be an appropriate route to go under either of these two scenarios or if I'm sure we have to do this or not, and obviously discuss that.

I'm just going to say, I think scenario two seems to provide that balance between all of it.

I agree. I think it balances the need to protect the general

Justice Patricia Guerrero, And I will say either scenario, two or three as far as Google course positions these support staff truancy the hiring and recruiting process that's the October one. Justice Patricia Guerrero, This money was effective July one so current positions fairly public defender clerks go back to July one, so are your office.

Justice Patricia Guerrero, Right, but. Justice Patricia Guerrero, Not to exceed what we.

Justice Patricia Guerrero, So in this area right.

I just want to thank Judge Schmidt, the bench, and Tori for working with the Budget Office and bringing this before the Board.

Really, it's the Superior Court that gets to allocate these funds, but the Board has the veto power saying we're not going to accept this grant.

I just think it's one more excellent step in the Superior Court bench working with the Boise County Commissioners and making really good progress.

Thank you.

And thanks to Tori and the Association for continually advocating for this as a really positive change. That's what it's about. It's about the kids in the community. So thank you. Thank you.

Anything else you all need or questions? All right. Thank you all very much.

Good morning, Commissioners.

Appreciate your time this morning.

all different items in front of the board today for their consideration. First item is an easement. You can see on the overhead area that this is the Bigelow Gulch corridor. The parcels that are on the north side of the road, northeast side of the road that are purple are actually ones that will be part of the next presentation to be surplus. We're granting an easement to ourselves ahead of surplusing them. Essentially it's a border easement all road purpose. So happy to answer any questions on that we just want to clean up our property rights plus properties yeah they're actually part of this next presentation heavy surplus we're cleaning up Bigelow um we have to close out projects surplus properties for a while now but we're just finalizing everything and we have to get through all the property rights acquisition the connotation process that's it takes a very long time over there over by East Valley so correct yes yeah North East Valley thank you all right Next, we have a number of properties we're looking to surplus that's been working on these with a lot of other things. The first few are fund 501 properties, which is our engineering revolving fund. You can see this is the Drumheller pit. It's out on the West Plains. It's the Tucker Prairie, Malloy Prairie area, which is the very far southwest, really more west than south area. And there's two parcels there. One of them, four acres, one 7.34. They're selling rural traditional. In our discussions with legal, they've suggested we sell them together. Only one has legal access to it. That's the reason. We've had them appraised for $100,000 about a year ago and like to move forward with getting them surplused. Any questions on this one?

So the only access is from them.

HAB-Jacques Juilland- My thing that's for me isn't it.

HAB-Juliette Boone, yeah it it goes through one of the housing lots to the main road there okay. HAB-Juliette Boone, Only one of our parcels actually has that access attached to it. HAB-Juliette Boone, For a holiday.

HAB-Jacques Juilland- Excellent. So another 501 property, and this one's the McFarland pit. It's 11 acres, sown large agricultural. The Hatterian Brethren, an electric wire fence end, but they were also, in conversation with them, interested in the property, so can be interested better when we go out with the property. It's priced at $60,000, and that was in October of 25, and that would be our recommended price to start with on that property. Any questions? Okay, next slide. So another 501, the last 501 property, this is the Monroe pit. It's very small. You can see it's about three quarters of an acre, real traditional. Wouldn't be allowed to be that small in that zoning, so it's an existing non-conforming property. It's also triangular in shape, which makes it a little tougher to build on. But even with that, it was priced at $100,000. We feel that's probably a little high, but property in this area 510 acre properties have been going for 200 250 000 and so not unlikely since it is buildable that we might get a party interested at 100 and like to start there next slide So moving on, these are 110 or road fund properties. This first one is at the intersection of Market and Magnesium. See on the overhead there, this one's been a bit of a nuisance property for us. We at one time were considering putting a north facility up there, similar to the old Corrales, and have a maintenance facility on that. So there's no reason to keep this property going forward. We've granted ourselves all the property rights that we want off it. Next slide, please. You can see it's 4.75 acres. It's zoned heavy industrial. So it's obviously more valuable property. Kjell Anderson , LMN, And there's a plume underneath it so that there's a monitoring well but that's actually in our current right of way, since we granted more right of way. Kjell Anderson , LMN, So there'll be a border easement that we gave ourselves current appraisal for appraisal from September 24 so about two years ago was 930,000. Kjell Anderson , LMN, If we should start there and see it goes it's a good piece of heavy industrial properties, so we do anticipate some interest. Kjell Anderson , LMN, Any questions.

We've gotten a lot of calls on that over the years of people dumping stuff. So I'd be nice to unload that from our portfolio.

That's been a nuisance to the tourist one. So I'd be happy to get that one off the books. Next slide, please. This one the board's seen before. This is our Appleway and Dishman Road property. We had gone out one time before, the City of Spokane Valley. This is currently deep within the City of Spokane Valley. We developed it when we did our Appleway project prior to Valley Incorporation. They would like a formalized easement along the north end where the existing stormwater facilities are, and we're obviously agreeable to that. That's why we originally just for the alignment and for the drainage. So that part's been done. Next slide, please. It's 1.63 acres, it's corridor It has spread. We still have it. It's a very, very busy intersection, as I'm sure the board's aware. It was appraised at $501,000. That was cleared back in June of 23, which was very much the peak. That being said, we'd like to go to a second auction with this. We're suggesting $450,000, so we're not dropping it a whole bunch. We'll just see how it goes. Any questions to that? All right. Yeah, slide, please. So these are the Bigelow Gulch properties that the easement was previously shown to the board is for. This first one, it's called the Auto Lane House, being on Auto Lane. It's 3.72 acres. It's zoned urban reserve, so it's rurally zoned currently. And it has a double white on it. It's been appraised at $438,000. We've repaired the roof on it. We're suggesting maybe lowering the price to $399,000 since we can't get somebody to buy it on that one. Any questions on that?

This was listed for sale, correct? Yes. This wasn't it? And this didn't get any bites?

No, no bite.

Because I remember there was an issue with the roof. I remember that. Maybe 18 months ago, two years ago, something. Yeah. It's been a while.

It was last year.

Was it last year? Okay.

We actually did have somebody who wanted to buy it.

Okay.

But their funding from their bank refused to allow them to buy it. Okay.

So with the hole in the roof, it made it so that it was not...

okay because yeah i thought that this was a part of uh a package of of properties that that i think we put out kind of at the same time i think about the same time the one that was out near the valley mall the that was the scope on property they were all kind of in a in a package together so sold yes yeah so so this one this one is ready to go now fixed roof okay move in ready

yeah all right all right it depends on your expectations did they fix the hole in the roof or did you just put this green over it colored skylight yeah we fixed it we actually fixed it we fixed it there's still a crack in the ceiling when you look we didn't fix the inside but we fixed the outside so whose house does have a crack come on yeah okay any questions So I know that I passed along a conversation with Shamrock with regard to the property they have out there off of paper and stuff. Did you have a chance to connect with him? And is there an opportunity maybe to do something with regard to that property?

Yeah, we're talking to Scott Wilms and on our end, our pit manager, Corey Pelletier is looking at it. what i directed him to do is take a look at it give us pros and cons we'll go out we'll do a site visit if it's beneficial to the county i don't know why but it has to be beneficial and we just haven't seen that yet frankly corey's also in charge of the fema for the fire for the roads for public works so he's a little distracted at the moment but we and scott followed up again today via email I collided with the fire so definitely looking at it and it may make sense it just I can't tell from an aerial and Cory's closer to it he's our pit manager so he can go out to give us an informed evaluation what that land swap would be and we can go from there there's some rock on our property that they would either have to move or compensate us for there's some things top of that okay it just seemed like a great opportunity to benefit both of us i would tell you what superficially it benefits them more than us but once we dig into the details we'll know more and maybe if that along with some financial consideration would make perfect sense because i i know it would make a lot more sense from yeah okay so more to come okay last one is another one um Yeah, there you go. Thank you. This is also along Bigelow Gulch. It's the other property. It's called the Sullivan Roadhouse. It's 3.85 acres, very similar in size, still urban reserve zoning, also purchased for Bigelow, obviously. There's an existing 1971 three-bedroom, two-bath house in very poor condition. It's a fixer-upper and also has a 3,000-square-foot shop. That's a good shot. projects for staging our bridge crew praised at 440 000 about a year ago and that would be our recommendation for to start at 440 and see how it goes answer any questions okay that's it for that thank you

It will be in the second.

Yeah, we have all foreshadowed to the board and we have seven hearing items, plus two condemnation public meeting items. So it'll be a fairly long into the agenda. Good stuff.

I just like it.

Yeah, that'd be great.

Yeah. Yes, for sure.

Yes, for sure. The public meeting items. Those are a little different than public here.

So okay, we just want to get a hands up on that.

Yeah. And Jasper just sent an email to that commissioner. And so that was kind of processed. I'll follow up with Jasper to make sure I'm clear on the process, because it is a little different. We want to make sure it's done right. It's part of the condemnation process, so it's very regimented how you move through that process.

Well, good morning, Commissioners. Thank you so much for your time.

I'm here to talk with you about an expanded recycling service level ordinance for the county. County Code 8.58 designates that the county specifies a boundary within unincorporated Spokane County, where if you are a resident and you subscribe to curbside garbage, you also are required to pay for and receive curbside recycling. So if you look up on that map up there, some of you were here when we expanded this the last time in 2018. The areas in green were the pre-2018 areas, and then the areas in red were the areas that were proposed for expansion in 2018. That was passed. And so next slide. That's the current boundary that we have. So every resident that is in unincorporated Spokane County within the green areas If you subscribe to curbside garbage, you also subscribe and pay for curbside recycling. We have not expanded this in eight years, and since then there's been quite a bit of development and population expansion, housing developments, either the more urban flavor or the suburban flavor. But we get residents calling in and asking, hey, you know, neighbor two blocks away has recycling or a block away or sometimes it's next door. I want that serviced. So we've been getting resident feedback. We've been working with the haulers to expand this boundary once again. So the next slide shows the areas where we are proposing to expand recycling. It looks like a big area. HAB-Juliette Boone, But again, these are more suburban and some of these a little bit rule, but working with the hollers. HAB-Juliette Boone, The these represent wm and sunshine areas for expansion wm service homes count about 1300 in the blue area and sunshine homes count about 1000 and it's mostly. in the airway heights or West Plains area, and then a little sliver up there in the northwest quadrant. Everything else is WM customers. Next slide.

What were those numbers you said again?

About 1,300 for WM, and Sunshine is about 1,000, so total 23,000 customers.

Over that area, only 1,300 homes there. Whoa, okay.

Yeah, and that is, it's a little fuzzy too, because with this expansion comes a choice by residents right so if a resident says you know I've been a curbside garbage customer but I I really don't want curbside recycling they have the choice to then cancel their garbage curbside and then take it to our transfer stations there are probably also customers out there who have not been willing to pay for curbside garbage if they can't get curbside recycling so this number could you know uh bend one way or another depending on the resident's choice for services. So these are some of the factors that we have been considering over the last several months. One is resident requests per county code. The protocol and the process is for residents to call in. Sometimes they call into your offices and you forward them to us. Sometimes they call us directly. Sometimes we're forwarded customers by WM and Sunshine, but they're wanting curbside recycling. It's a general sentiment. We don't get many customers calling us saying, I don't like that I'm paying for recycling. The other factors that we consider are there have been some developments, one very dense population right off of upriver drive and where they were excluded from the recycling service level.

And they said, here, there's a whole neighborhood in there.

We are here. We have houses, one lined up against each other. We have great roads. We have sewer. Why don't we have recycling? So they're moving in either from the west side or from city to unincorporated. and they expect the same level of service in their neighborhood, but they don't have it. Also, I've been working with the haulers. Some of the lines are a little funky. It's not just clean lines. That's because when we work with the haulers, they're looking at routes and availability to get on roads. Some of the roads can't support a garbage truck, so they don't want to expand into those areas. And then the last bullet on that slide is the Washington Recycling Reform Act. Next slide, please. This is a new law. It was passed last year. It has a couple of goals, but the biggest one that's kind of propelled us to move faster on this expansion is that garbage subscription should be, excuse me, recycling subscription should be available wherever garbage subscription is built. And they want that to happen by 2030. So if you're a hauler operating in our state, that's a big push. And if you wait until 2030, that's a lot of new trucks that are expensive. That's a lot of new cars. And so in working with the haulers, one of our goals was to provide a stair-step approach to 2030. So that way we expand gradually before 2030 and we're not expanding all at once to 2030. There's a couple other components in this law that I just want to make you aware of and that it does establish a producer responsibility organization that pro as it's called will collect. I don't see the fees. I don't know what the right term is. They're going to collect dollars from manufacturers of plastic and paper. goods and those basically become the fund to pay for the recycling system costs those costs are what the hauler has to spend to provide recycling service that gets passed on to the customer so what we'll see is they also have a stair step approach to reimbursing those costs so right now a wm recycling customer pays nine nine forty three a month for recycling service. In 2030, the resident who's paying nine forty three a month ten dollars is only going to pay half that. So their recycling bill in 2030 will cost five dollars a month. 2031, the reimbursement increases to 75 percent. 2032, the reimbursement increases to 90 percent. So by 2032, residents in Spokane County, if the Recycling Forum Act progresses on its current path, will only pay a dollar a month for recycling service. But we're not there yet. We have to get there.

Let me write that down and quote you all in 70 years.

We're seeing, yeah.

We have the public hearing. It'd be great if you could present that as a part of it and tell people it's the state that's making us do this.

But then the state's charging fees to the hauler. How does it work that it's going to be a reduced cost to the consumer?

That's the debate.

Has the legislature said so, Mary?

We're probably going to see an increase.

Garbage will go up by 20. The recycling will be a one.

You'll see an increase. What's being proposed and summarized is you might see an increase in things like packaging for your products that you buy from Amazon or the grocery store. That's going to go up a few cents. And then that's how the pro is going to collect those few cents on the packaging and paper and metal cans and then reimburse for recycling rates to go down. Yes, it's complicated. It's still under rulemaking, but I think the big picture here is the haulers and the county are trying to work together to figure out a way to meet these requirements. So that way it's not a huge surprise to everybody, including the haulers, putting out a ton of capital all at once. So next slide. So I'm here today to ask for your guys' approval to hold a public hearing to amend county code to expand the recycling service level. We would hold the public hearing on September 1st. April 1 would be the day that customers could receive recycling, curbside recycling. Likely Sunshine and WM would start advertising to their customers in Q1 of 2027. And then we would likely see further expansions like this in 2028, 2029. Again, closely working with the haulers to figure out their economies of scale. Do you have any questions?

So is this making it accessible or requiring us to have the recycling?

Well, it depends on your viewpoint.

Well, no. What are the others?

It's making it accessible to customers who want it. It's requiring it for everybody who wants curbside garbage.

It's a package deal.

It's an incentive.

Maybe forced incentive. Yeah. I mean, I have both. I knew that. Yeah, I do too. I've got a file.

Well, they're trying to cut costs because what they're doing is they take the garbage in the one truck and then right after it, they put the recycling in the same truck. They did that in Seattle. Yeah.

And I quit watching my movie. I stopped myself and didn't do it one day. I'm confident that doesn't happen here.

So just to clarify, the blue area would be the expanded recycling area, which would match the garbage volume area. How did you determine the blue areas?

Good question. The blue areas are going to be the new included areas. So after the code is amended, all of that turns correct. So basically we're just adding the blue areas to the green areas. So then after it's passed, all of that is one green area.

But the garbage area is still much further beyond that of people that just garbage. So do you have a map that shows that overlay? So we can kind of, I mean, I know it's going to get, it's going to get messy. And if you can maybe put yellow or something beyond to show how far out people only have garbage.

It is everywhere in the county. So for the UTC, the WM hauler boundaries for garbage are across the entire county. So the only area that's not accessible right now is right up on Mount Spokane.

I thought there was more remote areas that didn't have service than just that.

If your roads don't allow for a truck to come up.

Yeah, I was going to say I've had people reach out and I'm pretty sure they don't only live on. But maybe, maybe not.

And you're probably well aware of that, but there are some areas where drop boxes are allowed or like smaller dumpsters are allowed farther down. So a resident would have to drive a mile down their unimproved road to a spot that can support the garbage truck.

Okay. In my development.

Is that what you guys have to do?

Yes.

I just take it to the dump and then do it that way.

Like if I'm going to haul it all the way down the hill, which is a mile and a half. Oh, I see.

Further expansions.

Thank you.

We always learn stuff when Lindsay comes and presents.

Next, we have Eric Messenger. He's our project manager for PFAS and also reverence.

He gets his verse. Yeah.

yeah uh good morning fishers i'm eric messenger and i'm a project public works i'm here this morning to talk about the department of ecology grant that we have been awarded in conjunction with the west plain city fast project but yeah so this grant's a 170 000 grant from the department of ecology's spokane basin toxic reduction program It funds county staff time to administer and execute the PFAS filter distribution program. Only the administration, only the execution of. There is no county match required. The agreement term is through June 30th, 2027, and it can be extended to June 30th, 2028, just after the final request. $170,000 does not pay for any of the filters or installation of the filters. That is funded through the $7.45 million Department of currently under that grant we have awarded the two contractors one of our contractors is out conducting site visits sampling and additional design work for these filtration systems second contractor has signed their contract county is working on getting our signature on that contract and they are set to begin site business sampling next week The agreement for this ecology grant is near final. We've provided our initial review and comments back to Ecology two weeks ago, and it is currently in their financial review in Eagle. We expect a signature ready version later this week and anticipate bringing it to your authorization for the August 18th briefing. So that now concludes my briefing.

Are there any questions? So we're getting additional funds for management. That's great. Because that way, then, the Commerce money, the $7 million goes directly to filters.

Yeah. The Commerce contract is very specific. It's only for installation of filter systems. Ben went out and applied for this grant for county time to administer.

and it's not the navigators, right? That's a different funding source. This is county administration.

Great.

You know, we've got many pots of money.

Very happy to have that. We want to pay Eric. Just a lot of that. Yes. Spent a lot of time. Appreciate your time. Okay.

John Gerstle PB, Sarah Silver PB, Sarah Silver, Yes, for for.

John Gerstle PB, Sarah Silver, Today, or. John Gerstle PB, Sarah Silver, At least about it.

You know. John Kane, Right. John Kane, For you to start out and then Jennifer is going to give her first read.

Jennifer Horne, Again, actually pretty quick and easy it's just kind of an odd situation that came up, we just wanted to bring to your attention and before we move forward with it. Jennifer Horne, We had a seller reach out wanting to sell a vacant parcel that they acquired I think it was in 2025. and they did not realize that there was a deed of trust that was currently on the property. And so before they can sell it, they wanted to get that paid off. Then they went to go pay it off. We realized we didn't have it on our books. We just had a deed of trust recorded. So it was just a little bit of like a, well, we know the principal balance based off of the deed of trust, but it was just never, In our records, other than that, so I was working with the auditors and with legal to just kind of figure out how do we need to go about this, but they can get that paid off, they can sell their property and make sure we're not. losing any funds that we should have been receiving on this property, so it is a personal loan, so this kind of time period. There was a bunch of personal loans from CDBG funds that were given out and they were no interest. typically down payment assistance loans. And so it's a very small amount. It's approximately $1,846.20. So we're just looking to get your approval to accept payment on that loan and put it on our records just to get it paid off again. So we're looking at a total payment of $2,149.70. Of that was that $1,800 that would be program income to be redistributed as we normally do in our cycle. And then $303.50 for that recombinance fee. So just looking for your approval. Jennifer Swisher- Approval basically to put that on the books and then pay it off and reconvey the trust. Jennifer Swisher- Okay, with them all the way.

Jennifer Swisher- Thank you.

Jennifer Swisher- Hello i'm Jennifer swisher i'm the newest member of the housing and Community development department. um today i wanted to bring forward a data sharing agreement between um housing development development and the long-term recovery proof this is in conjunction with the service navigator programs that we are in agreement with currently um and as a reminder that program was for outreach and intake of the oregon and gray road fire um survivors and impacted areas just to collect data and to have that data for future recovery activities.

This is for Oregon and Great Road. Yes. And what types of data will be shared and how does that help your department?

We have an intake assessment. We have case managers with the service navigator program. And they're reaching out to residents just to gather unmet needs and seeing how further we can help them. We have agreements coming up for home builds and just to see where we can help.

Okay, so this might help us shape where the DR is.

Yes.

Welcome. Thank you. Appreciate it. Nice meeting you guys. Dr. Mott, thank you for joining us. You want to unmute and we'll let you talk about your data sharing agreement.

Can you guys hear me okay?

Yes.

Oh, perfect. All right. Hi, I'm Dr. Mott with the Medical Examiner's Office. I'm going to be standing in for Dr. Singh today. Today, we are requesting renewal for a data sharing agreement that we have with the Washington State Department of Health with regards to their SUITRS program. That is the State Unintentional Drug Overdose Reporting System. This is a long-standing agreement that we have had with the state where we provide information gathered from our drug overdose death investigations and autopsies for the state to compile into their state-level data dashboard for overdoses and then pass that data on to the CDC for federal-level data tracking for overdoses. And then that data on a federal level and a local level is used to track illicit drug trends, different kinds of risk factors for overdoses and help local community leaders to create strategies for prevention and mitigation. um as i mentioned this is a long start a long-standing agreement that we've had with the state and they are requesting now that we extend that agreement through the year 2031 so we are asking that you guys approve so that we may continue providing them with that data very good i think that's a good thing thank you thank you okay um

well he's coming josh wrote in hr was listening and he did confirm for the um undershare bridge sheet it is currently at 120 not 180. so we'll make sure that's reflected next week good morning good afternoon

And a quick change over what we submitted last week, Jeff, is that the Valley just got us a signed contract. So I don't know if I have a copy for everybody.

It's OK. So what would you like?

It's a quick amendment to our Valley contract for Workgroup Services. Sorry. The resolution is very that we're charging the Valley for work crew services. We just, we start up, we're gonna work at the fair, but we needed that one week of prep time before we go out to the fair. Kind of a high risk environment is really wide open. So we negotiate, Lieutenant Robinson negotiated with the fair, full cost recovery, the $2,000 a day. The changes they wanted to put in, if we end up, for some reason, partial days, we can charge them $250 an hour. So we're comfortable with it. Legal's looked at it already. And it's really just for next week.

Okay. So this is just for next week to go to the Valley.

Just to go to the Valley. Yep.

Kind of do it. They're wanting to have that service. So that it provides this opportunity to go kind of practice.

It works for us too. And all new inmates, the inmates that we have that are eligible right now, none of them have been on a crew before, not a single one of them. So it's a challenge. Yeah, it's a challenge for us.

What is it they're going to be doing for the violin? It's all litter at this point. Oh, litter. I don't have any people. OK. It's all good.

You can go anywhere and find litter.

It's not an event. They're not holding some community event.

uh works being under you know the kinks yes okay excellent so yeah one of our existing officers prior to um closing that work group as well as a new officer as well that hasn't been working for quite some time so we've got our officers are getting trained or it's everything so this is a good week to have for us in a little lower risk environment so and any other questions i think it would be cool i don't think so okay is this on the second

Stapp, It should be on this afternoon should be, and I think we need to make sure we have the correct paperwork to that last minute change signature. Stapp, Just kind of how some of this is.

Stapp, In which.

Stapp, You. Stapp, Might have not been looking for Jeff on tour.

It's on the consent agenda.

Making sure it's on the consent agenda since you guys are going to be doing this soon.

It's Q here. You know, 400 Q. In the matter of executing an amendment to the agreement between Spokane County and the City of Spokane. There's always my leave.

Oh, because my minor staple backwards.

So I came to an end. I didn't realize your little patient need to verify that we have the correct and then there's number one in there that reflects the minor changes of the signature and so forth. There's that we're all. Okay, what's happened this morning?

So you're gonna work with Shelby to make sure Yeah, we can work there.

It just it just came across 5 or 10 minutes ago, but with the uh, I mentioned that amended amounts from the valid factor.

Okay, thank you very much. Thank you. Appreciate it.

Okay, it's good information if you want. Jory Jones, All right, we're here to talk about affordable housing building permit programs next slide. Jory Jones, The program overview is an expedited building permit review, which is essentially putting it in front of the line, so you can cut right to the front. And the fee deferral process would work where, for any type of certificate of occupancy, whether temporary or final, permit fees have to be paid at that time. Normally permit fees are paid before issuing the building permit and actually some portions of fees are paid prior to processing and making an inline. So this differs all those fees associated with the building permit to the right for temporary certificate of occupancy or final certificate of occupancy. Her portfolios show anticipation of up to five qualifying projects per year. It's speculative on how much this would increase those projects. All these programs around different jurisdictions are relatively new, and so we won't know until we know on how many this could incentivize. I'm not sure if George would like to add anything to that piece at all.

yeah i mean so much of it as we've talked with jordan about what our portfolio looks like and specifically what brittany manages uh on the team um sometimes it's five sometimes it's ten it just kind of varies on the amount of funding that's coming through and what state fundings are coming in and everything else so um so we want to give you all a number um but also want to be conservative might look like we've also talked about some different screening and alignment for projects that come in looking for funding through our department and how we might use that as kind of a prioritization knowing that they've got some additional funding and resources to be able to be okay uh george to to that point about i mean

Mark Benthien, ECA- It difficult to kind of know how many, but a lot of the a lot of the projects that come in from your shop that you brief us on. Mark Benthien, ECA- A lot of them are like are in cities they're not an incorporated county to like a lot are in the valley, I think you know I think the bulk of them are in the valley aren't they the. That they should kind of present to us on.

I think it's fair to say that a bulk of the multifamily can be in those jurisdictions. I think that's why we kind of get a little bit of on this because we're kind of looking more at like the traditional multifamily projects that are coming in. But when we're looking at some of the single family, which is a lot more variables, right, we have like the recovery that can be to a lot of homes being built in those rural areas. We can look at habitat for humanities programs. They build a lot more like in those other areas, and so we're looking at those. I think some of some of those projects projects can make that number go up a lot, especially for. Okay, it's fair to say so it just varies a lot.

It's hard to say, and to that point the last bullet there is Grant Hilberson, A project does not mean one permit typically a project, maybe multiple rooms, it could be one firm that could be five to 10. Grant Hilberson, Or do just nice listen to one something different, but permanent permits for project. Grant Hilberson, Next slide.

Kjell Anderson , City of Boulder OSMP, yeah all right. Kjell Anderson , City of Boulder OSMP, unique when i'm across your office morning missioners following up on previous research that ensures French and walters and staffs did on. Kjell Anderson , City of Boulder OSMP, reasons to support affordable housing, there is their growth management planning the goals for. planning and accommodating affordable housing to each economic segment of the population. So it's 30 to 50% area median income and 50 to 80% area median income and so forth. So there's some supporting statutes as well as the need of the county to documents, programs and actions as part of its comprehensive planning needed to achieve housing affordability. and ensure that adequate provisions are made to support this these different projected needs of all these economic sectors of the community so on the other side there's the county-wide planning policies so this these provided framework for comprehensive planning in the county they include expediting permitting and building permit fee deferral which policies, as well as there's some support for the homeownership side of things. So the increasing homeownership rates, there's some existing policy right now related to that. So the county provides incentives for owner occupied houses that can help. Next slide. This follows up your questions from the briefing last month regarding some of the things that other jurisdictions in the county are doing just a comparison some of those strategies that support affordable housing For permit fees, the city of Spokane recently implemented a fee deferral program, and Spokane County is considering a similar program to do fee deferrals and then also add the expedited permit review. And then kind of ongoing costs, utility fee credits or reductions can help them pay for, you know, that's a way to provide ongoing support for these housing units. And then there's other programs such as City of Spokane has a multi-family tax exemption, and City of Spokane Valley's surplus property program, which Commissioner Walder mentioned. Then there's some other strategies as well to provide both upfront and ongoing support. Next.

I'll take it from this one. Generally, the question was, well, how much time does this save? which for single family is relatively straightforward. It's on average 17 days, say. It ranges from 14 to 21 days, depending on the current volume. Spring to summer, it's probably going to hover more towards that 21 currently. And then in the winter, it actually will be down to less than a week on average, at least the building department said. Typically, you can expect to range 14 to 21 days of time savings on a single family project, duplex or townhouse. a multi-family like apartment that's going to vary very significantly based on the project size and what parcels on and what challenges they're seeing on that parcel such as critical areas um are they going to need to go see sport camp with their water sewer and the road um do they need department of transportation a lot of things can factor in on the multi-family vertical side of things but on average i saw So anywhere between 30 and 60 days, there's not a big sample size to get like a really accurate average there. The records are really only accurate for the two years I've been here. So that's the general range, 30 to 60. I'd anticipate we'd land somewhere right at the middle on average. And then like I said, unless the bullet is very dependent on the size and apartment complex that's going to be far different than you know your closer floor smaller apartment complexes so it can range widely and this is the average fees uh that would be deferred for uh single-family duplex townhouses If you're talking single family, the average would go a little down. If you're talking count houses, the average would go a little bit up. But you're seeing about 2,000, around the 2,000 mark. 2,340 is the exact average sample size I pulled. And then multifamily apartments, it's around 18,000. I'd say that's pretty true for most. You know, your smaller ones, you're going to go down a little bit. Your bigger ones, you're going to go up a little bit.

So as we stay deferred, and I apologize if I catch this, how long are they deferred to? Because we're not saying that they're waived. They're just being like this.

Correct. Our permits go for three years from data issuance, and I can give them another 180 day extension. So you're looking at typically a max of 3.5 years until you're receiving that money back. Or the other problem would be if the project fails, then you'd be trying to get that money back, which we have an affidavit for this on the next slide.

Yeah. How do we know we could get the money? Because the permits, the big deal is like you can't Again, do these things until you pay for that. So what's the incentive for somebody to pay if they've already got it built?

The incentive is they have to have certificate of occupancy to actually occupy. And then there is an agreement that we'd add into here so that in the event the project did not finish out, that we would have a mechanism for getting that money back.

I just want to make sure.

example, they have a provision for a lien to secure the payments. Then there's also a certificate of occupancy. And there's an agreement even if they don't finish the property, the fees would still be paid or finish the project.

Justin Fields , City of Boulder, The agreement also includes say they revised to not meeting the standards of the program that that we would take them out of the program and get the money at that point, so the revision halfway through the project. Justin Fields , City of Boulder, Next slide I think that's on the next slide to you know, this is an example form it's a bit smaller but it's a it's an agreement that they sign and that's the mechanism, one of the mechanisms, we can use to to get those fees back. I think that's the City of Bellevue's example. Where's this? Sorry, this is our .

Yeah, this is a draft of our .

Kjell Anderson , City of Spokane. City of Spokane also has an administrative fee to kind of start to help track. So there may be some kind of upfront administrative fee proposed to help track all of this paperwork. Kjell Anderson , City of Spokane.

And that's the final slide. Next slide. Oh, there's a Bonaparty on that. This is the document I provided last briefing, kind of going over the summary of how it would look, the limitations, considerations, and then going over the overall draft procedure rules that we would take in order to implement this process.

So where it says building permit fees deferred, reduced, waived, in this proposal, it's just deferred? In this proposal, it's just deferred.

This is the original draft document from the prior briefing.

Yeah.

um Commissioner Waldriff I just wanted to thank legal and um Community Housing and Jordan for their work on this I really appreciated seeing the comparison with other cities and um yeah I I really appreciate this I think it would be a good thing for us to do as we try to meet our comp plan goals for having, you know, supporting more affordable housing policies at the county. So anyway, I just want to thank you for your work.

Absolutely.

Any questions?

let's move forward let's do it yeah thanks to commissioner waldorf and french for working on it it's a good step thank you all is there anything that's related um just this afternoon we're going to strike item h it's the award bid for the left turn wing of the sheriff's office procurement and legal just found a couple of issues You try to be able to change it will be better.

Okay, I mean, for energy was also good.

What's for what? For N. N. So, for H. For H. Yes, for H. For N is news to me, so. Was that A as in apple or N as in meat?

N as in meat.

Meat. That's meat. What?

um any more time i i don't know i just got a post announcing we're striking for it so who gave you that note uh i think shelley that to you now so it came from mike came from who jacobs um so send it to jeff i just i think i've heard it was heather you have an update miscellaneous i see well it says media press releases and proclamations and uh it's been quite a week and a half just to let you know that the communications office

has, of course, worked with the Board of County Commissioners, the Sheriff, Emergency Management, Assessor, Auditor, Superior District and Municipal Courts, Farron Expo Center, Public Works, and Solid Waste and Scraps, and also with other agencies and organizations like the California Interagency Incident Management Team 7, very impressive group of people. City of Spokane, Spokane Regional Health District, Spokane Public Schools, Anovia Foundation, Red Cross, Clean Air, Avista, and WSDOT. And I hope you've heard that State Route 291 is fully open. Just to let you know that we have been actively gathering information and disseminating it. I know you're working on a joint meeting with the city. You might want to consider a joint press conference or a county press conference just to file away and a proclamation for the firefighters and first responders just a thought okay and that does it for me any questions yes we've been on the phone

night you've been really working so hard so thanks for all you've been doing to hurt all the cats and get all the information and try to help us figure out how to you know get better the website has been updated and sharissa has been streaming things so thanks for your work thank you very much you've done a great job and have been working a lot of hours as long as everybody else so so yes and

Thank you very much. Appreciate it. There's still discussions of potentially a joint city county meeting next Monday afternoon, but that is not confirmed at all.

Well, and I know we do have a long haul. The road to recovery is going to take years, but we have a lot of information that is being developed and we need to get out to the public. So what the county is doing for our citizens to help facilitate that recovery. So the comms office is here to help you in any way possible. Thank you. Thank you.

I knew a man who was just missing some information, so they are going to repackage it and get it on.

And so we've just got two items that are going to be stricken from today's agenda.

Like Harry and like Nancy. John Potter, Commissioner French, do you have a few minutes if we did a closed session, they said it did less than them. John Potter, Then, supposed to be there at 1130.

John Potter, either. John Potter, I thought your heart stopped.

John Potter, Sorry yeah well yeah.

I would say let's go.

So no executive session items.

We'll adjourn for the morning meeting and then go into our closed session and see if we can be back at 2 o'clock.