Environmental Commission - Regular Meeting

Welcome to the Township of Sparta Environmental Commission meeting of Thursday, September 25th, 2025. The meeting is called to order at 7:03. We are live in the council chamber at the municipal building and also live streaming on YouTube at Sparta TWWP backstreams. Please take take note uh sorry. Adequate notice of this meeting was provided to the public and the press on January 10th, 2025 by delivering to the press and posting on the township website a copy of the notice. Please join me in saluting the flag. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you. Tonight we have um a swearing in of our new student leazison, Nicholas Deprad. Did I say it right? Great. All right. Um this is not the the uh true swearing in. You'll have to go to the clerk's office as I mentioned. Um, but just repeat after me. I, Nicholas Deprad, I, Nicholas Deprad, do solemnly swear or affirm that I will faithfully, impartially, and lawfully do solemnly swear or affirm that I will faithfully, impartially, and lawfully carry out my duties as member of the Environmental Commission.

carry out my duties as member of the Environmental Commission of the Township of Sparta, County of Sussex, State of New Jersey. of the Township of Sparta, County of Sussex, State of New Jersey. in accordance with the laws and constitution of the United States and the state of New Jersey. In accordance with the laws and constitution of the United States and of the state of New Jersey. All right. Thank you so much. Welcome. Yay. Do we want to go have a quick picture?

Okay. Yeah. So, everybody meet up. Everybody that's all right.

Yeah. A little bit closer. Sorry. All right. Ready? Okay. Good. All right. Now, with that formality out of the way, can you do roll call, please, Emily?

Yes. Deputy Mayor Margie Murphy, Chair Kimberly Null, here. Vice Chair O'Neal Sarowine here. Christine Dunar, Ed Gaul here, Christine Rogers here, Barbara Kazulka, Landon Ten Yuri, Robert Otto here, Nicholas Drato here.

Thank you. Thank you, Emily. All right. Do I have um review of the minutes for September 11th, 2025? Do I have a motion to accept or do we have any changes? any changes or do I have a motion to accept?

I'll make a one one little thing under under unfinished business deer management.

Um where it says Robert Otto mentioned referencing space farms for their deer pickups. What what does that mean referencing? So, we were talking about uh I think inquiring with the police to get data on um deer strikes, which would tell us uh kind of give us a survey of where there are problem areas. And then I added space farm pickups because if the uh police were not called, Space Farms is sometimes called to pick up roadkill. So, that would just be another data point or data set with more data points, but we could word it differently. I don't know. I just wanted to clarify that. Let's

let's just make it um Rod Auto mentioned contacting space farms. Are there deer pickup data? Okay. All right. That that's a little bit clearer. Thanks.

All right. With that change, do I have a motion to accept the minutes September 11th? I'll make a motion to accept the minutes of the minor change. Thank you, Rob. Thank you, Ted. All in favor? I I

All right. And one abstension. Nicholas, you abstain. Okay. Since you weren't here. All right. Thank you. All right. We have two Oh, no. They're not applications. They're correspondents. Okay. So, no applications tonight. Um we just have two items of correspondence to look at. One is um a flood hazard area verification. They're going to be building a new wall along Lake Mohawk, which we have seen those before. So, we can go take a look at that. And the second one is for line verification interpretation. Um this one's a little bit confusing, but I can show you what's confusing about it when uh when we go down there. So, if anybody everybody wants to go look at the plans, they're down here. All right. So, this one they're really just looking for line verification. Um, and it's primarily in Andover and Lafayette. So, if anybody's ever driven to the end of Pinkyville Road andor on 15 where houses, corners, crosses, and then you go off to your left, this is property on the um Andover Lafayette side. And there's a little tiny portion that is in Sparta right here. So, unfortunately, they had to contact us also. Um, it doesn't really say much about what they're planning to do with it. They're really just looking, as I mentioned, for

where the lines are for the freshwater areas. Um, and it looks like our portion doesn't have any. So, I don't know if we have any comments or would send anything that we want to send a memo on on this one. These are those train tracks. They are active tracks we think, right? Yeah. The same ones that run by um you know that um run by 15. Well, cross over 15. Actually, they go under 15. Do they go under? I think that's Yeah, I think they go under. What are the ones that go that 15 goes over

roundabout? Roundabout. Is that rain? Yeah. Tuesday night here too. Did it really? Yeah.

No, we didn't see anything about it. There's the paper there. Doesn't say anything in there about their review or what they say. I did contact them to see if they issued a memo and they didn't get back to me yet. You contacted them, you said? Yeah. Andover and Lafayette just to if they had any comments, but nobody got back to me yet.

It's the Pace. Oh, here it is. Paste Glass Recycling. I guess it is a current recycling place. And I guess there's brothers. That's That's the mulch place, right? Oh, the scatty the Scaddyy brothers was Oh, is that how you say that? Yeah. So, this is the building that they're just constructing now. Right. Because here's Sussex Mills Link. Right. They have a lot of active construction right now.

Yeah. And I guess there's an existing building, gravel, parking, storage. This I think all the rest of it is undeveloped, including the part that's on our side. There's nothing there. Is that the warehouse they've been talking about in handover? I don't know. You're talking about the one where they're going to blow up that whole mountain over 10 years. I don't know. I don't think that's this one. That's That's an artist, isn't it? Yeah. I don't think that's this one.

No, but there's they were talking about one on in Andover on Lime Crest, right? Yeah. This might be it then because it is on Lime Crest unless they did start building. Although I thought they were talking about it being much bigger than that. Yeah. I think they're just I think legally they have to because they're applying the DP. Oh, I don't know actually.

Yeah. No, they don't have anything in here right now. I guess it's the site plan for pace glass recycling

preliminary and final site plan. Glass recycle. You know which umh this is in same water over there. The other thing we could do is run a environmental impact on this lot over here that's started. I mean, we could run it on the whole thing, but I think the only thing we can weigh in on is our portion. I don't know. I don't know.

It was mentioned to me that when we're up here, people can't hear us. Oh, really? So, talk into that more. Yeah. I don't know what we would say about it. Our side northern Yeah, that makes sense.

Yep. This looks like there'd be some water drainage in this area. What do you think, Rob? Huh? They're they're looking for line verification, which is not really our area. It's to determine freshwater wetlands transition areas, but going to do that. Yeah. Yeah.

All right. Any other Okay. Yep. Usually it means they know where the property line is.

Because they were dewatering the quarry, they may not know exactly where the wetlands and trees, right? He was talking about the pins for the property. No. No. Yeah. as far as what we're supposed to be doing. And you said they know where they don't know exactly where the where begins, where the wetlands begins and ends because they've been dewatering the area on and off. Yeah. But they do know where the property lines are. Okay. So we want to ask for the results of

assessment assessment. Okay. Okay. Sounds good. All right. This one is folks are looking to um rebuild their wall along Lake Mohawk. Upper Lake.

Upper Lake, I think. Yeah, you're right. And um where's the typically we weigh in that we would prefer that they do some kind of area so that the um the water doesn't flow right into the lake, right? They do some kind of easement or protector like a

Thank you. could think of the word. This is the side where they're rebuilding the wall. There are pictures of it in here when you get to that, Christine. Um so that we can show what it looks like now. It's literally grass goes all the way up to it and then it's just stones. So I think the request is actually Yeah. So, right now there's no um buffer zone or anything to prevent the water just from running down the hill right into the um into the lake. Yep. This is the flood hazard area and I think what they're actually asking for is the flood hazard area line. But um my thought is we still recommend that they do something to if they're going to disturb that area. Well, first of all, during construction, they have to build that um the copper dam, right? So that then they can build their wall, but then also on the other side of that, make sure they have some drainage and some plants and stuff to prevent everything from just running directly.

Is that from the club system? No, nothing. That was the only thing I got. Think I think they're doing this first. I don't think they got approved from the club yet.

Okay. Just letting it flow right into the lake. We could We would recommend that they fence off area disturbance. potentially comp.

Okay. In the main lake, they typically wait until

that's different because that's maintenance. the pictures, but it looks like Yeah, they didn't they don't have anything there really now other than rocks. So, I don't know what the procedure is as far as if again I would defer to LMC, but as far as stabilizing Upper Lake is still LMC, too. Yeah.

Yeah. So, as far as stabilizing shoreline, it's typically subject to corrosion. All right. Anybody have any other comments? It's not super steep. I would have is that the wall isn't too high to block flow water

down the slope into the lake. Yeah. And then also have some drainage in front of it. Right.

So that they can capture all the stuff. Yeah. Okay. Any comments from you? Good. Don't think I messed the packages. No, I got them in the right places. All right, that was our correspondence. All right. Um, now we're opening it up for public comment and no one from the public is here. So, we'll close public comment and moving on to reports. Um, we have planning board report from you, Rob. Do you want to go first?

Um, have anything

or just uh I think some some comments were made at town council. I can address them here, I guess, as they relate to planning board. But, um, we've been talking about design standards and kind of simplifying them for applicants. Uh I think there were some observations made by uh council uh who would be the governing body to kind of authorize those changes. But um as far as the planning board uh design standards need to be updated to benefit the businesses. Um and we've talked about kind of implementing some of the lighting suggestions from this body. Um, and it looks like I've had one meeting of the master plan subcommittee that I'm now on taking Ron Day's place. So, that's a good that's a good spot for uh the design standards updates to live because Neil, you'll be there, right? So, we can get that environmental uh we can get input from zoning. we can get input from um some members of the public and the press that frequently attends you know I don't know I think Jenny's attended like at least 10 to 15 years of um town council to see why ordinances why ordinances are put forth and then of course the ordinances inform the code updates. So I think that's kind of a good reasonable place for that next step. So, um, just kind of putting in a master plan subcommittee and Neil, I assume, will be talking about that as we continue.

Yeah. Go ahead, please, Neil.

Um, okay. We had a, uh, let's see, we had a meeting last week, uh, the master plan subcommittee and, uh, reviewed some of the results of our, um, focus group, uh, information gathering. We um I think there's there might be a couple that we we have missed. Um like we we didn't get to meet with with the country club. they couldn't for some reason we couldn't get together uh with them on that. But we we're planning to have a public information gathering session in at Sparta High School uh tenatively uh the end towards the end of October.

Do you have a date for that yet? Not nailed down yet. No. Okay. But probably um the 29th or 30th. I think that was the last uh that was the last uh dates thrown out. Okay. I thought uh there had been a meeting with the country club. There's several things discussed, but there was going to be a follow-up kind of public session and you know having potentially having one where the country club would host it on their site and then another one at like a school. Right. We talked about Right. This is I'm talking about the school one. I maybe I I don't know. I didn't

because I think Jenny Derek's maybe Ron Day. Uh I'm not sure who else met with the country club and they discussed a number of things. Oh, that's that's right. I'm sorry. They they did. Yes. Yeah. I mean, I'm getting up to speed. I was only the one at the one meeting. Yeah. Um Yeah. So, I guess we we have met with most of the stakeholder groups. So yes, this this will be a I don't know about the uh meeting at the country club, but this will be a public meeting at the high school, right? Oh, it did. Yeah, that was the problem. I think we couldn't we couldn't get a meeting place at the at the country club. We couldn't get the ballroom. Um

and and it was a later date proposed, I think. Right.

So, we we didn't want to wait. But that reminds me too uh we had talked about here um when we had the stakeholders meeting that um could we revisit parking standards and that did come up in planning board at a recent application. It's still active so can't really talk but we kind of I think had the initial question like would you be willing to bank it? So, it was interesting to see how that might play into it because everyone agreed. I think that if you don't need to pave over something that we shouldn't, right? And it sounded like engineering had a way. There was there was something about like where the curb would have to be if they just banked it and left it as grass. Um, and so just food for thought as we continue with that because it did come from the stakeholder meeting um that Joan and who else attended? Um Christy White House, I think. Yeah. So, uh, if if we request the applicants bank parking spots, they would still need to if they need a waiver before planning board, they would still need to get that waiver because um, they would need to get the approval as if they're using all of the parking spots. And so that banking right now would just be kind of I guess a courtesy because we'd have no control over it possibly being converted and paved over in the future. So just something to

thanks. All right. Yeah, I definitely want to publicize when that public meeting's happening. So let us know. Um and just a reminder, we won't have the October 9th meeting to talk about it, too. Um, Landon's not here for trail committee and Margie's not here for town council. Um, did watch the meeting, but I don't think I have anything. Um, okay. Thank you so much. Moving on to unfinished business. It is official and Jim Zep also announced it on Tuesday that we did get our bronze certification. Thank you so much to Christine Rogers. No, it was everybody.

It was everybody. It was everybody. But we we did such a good job this time that I really just want to point this out to everyone in the town. Our last certification cycle, we were at 160 points. Now we were up to 200. So we upped it by 40 just from the last time. There's still a lot of points on the table that we can keep building towards, but 200 is a really good number and it's a really strong start. Um, and we'll just keep working towards silver, but Um, I guess I'll read the just different categories that we got points in because I think that's really telling.

Um, for having a green team, we got 10 points. 15 points for environmental, education, and outreach. Our green fair points was from that um, Earth Day fair that we did back in April. Uh we had education and outreach points and in the lead category for when Jenna came and worked with us, 15 points for emergency communications planning, 10 points for sustainable land use pledge, 20 points for the green infrastructure planning um that Ruter's water resources program did the plans for. Having our environmental commission, 10 points, the site plan reviews that we do, another 10. Our open space plan, that was 10 points. Um, our rain barrel workshops that we've done two different times, that was another 10 points. The road salt impact study that we've been doing, 15 points. Our clustering ordinance is 10 points. The tree protection ordinance, 10 points. Digitizing public information on our website, 10 points. Prescription drug safety and disposal, 10 points. And recycling, waste, uh, reduction, education, and compliance, 20 points. So, it's really across the board we've been getting points and I think that's a real testament to how strong our commission is right now. Um, so yeah, I just wanted to make sure we point that out to everyone and I think if we can have a press release go out as well,

I think that's really would be great. Yep.

We'll do. All right. Any other comments or questions on that? Thank you everybody for all your hard work. All right, we have a number of um resolutions that we've been working towards. Um am I right? The New Jersey Climate Super Fund Act did pass on Tuesday, right? It did. Okay. Yes. Yay. Thank you, Margie. Thank you, town council. Thank you, Margie.

Um okay, that one is now passed. Um, so we will work to get the rest of them. Also, um, the how come I can't think of the name of it? I always forget it. Um, the saving our forests, the mun um, Sparta Mountain one. U, we also have to get in front of the town council. So, um, we're trying to not inundate the town council with all of them at once. So, I think the next big one that we will move forward with is um, protecting the forests. um deer management. So, uh as folks may recall, we were working with the DP wildlife, fish and wildlife um area to get a study done of where we really have the problems with the deer. So, I did get the police report on how many deer strikes we have had. Um and I and so we're we're starting to make headway there. And then, as we saw in the minutes, I need to contact space farms to see how much they've been picking up here in Sparta. Um, I think we are all working under the assumption that Lake Mohawk has the worst area uh most concentration of deer that are doing the most damage to the the u undergrowth and the plants and uh plants there. Um, but we'll see if that holds true.

Did you um did you look at the deer strike data and see if Okay. Do you want me to share it with you though? I'm just wondering uh if and when we get it, you know, we should we have an assumption, but we should check it and then we should maybe consider plotting up a little infograph a little a little map basically showing hotspots. Okay, sounds good. I I will share it with everybody. Um, next unfinished business item is NJAC conference is October 10th. Did anybody say they could go to that? It is a Friday.

I think I'm going I have to confirm this tomorrow and I'll I'll I haven't registered yet, but tomorrow's the last day for the discount. So, I'll make sure I register tomorrow uh if I'm able to. Thank you. Um, and the Rivers Conference is October 17th, which is a Saturday, I think. And it's a Friday. It is a Friday, too. All right. And you're going to that? I'm going. Uh, Chris Dunar is going. Neil, are you going? Yes, I'm going to go to that, too. And then I have like um the postcards for them. So, if anyone on the commission wants them, we could put I could also um send Emily maybe we can put the link to register just in the minutes in case anyone in the public wants to um participate, they can sign themselves up.

Great. All right. Um new business. So, Neil Clark um was awarded the Anjac Municipal Leadership Award. Um, congratulations, Neil. Um, so if he goes to the conference, that's when he can receive his award, right? Right. Okay. Um, and you reached out to him? We both did. I I didn't reach out about the conference yet, but I will. Okay.

Thank you. Um, and last new business item, unless folks want to add to this, is the NJ pack um, comments that Neil submitted to uh the D. Do you want to read them into the minutes or just sure you want? I will. Yes. Okay.

Okay. Um so this is this is what was submitted to the D. New Jersey has a flooding problem and it is beyond time that our government take a comprehensive approach to development and redevelopment that better protects residents and businesses in the Garden State. We're writing to encourage the NJ to adopt the NJPACT, NJPact real rules without further delay. These rules will save lives and protect properties across the state. The science on climate climate change is sound. We know that New Jersey is experiencing more flooding than most states with 722 confirmed weather/climate disaster events with losses exceeding 1 billion each to affect New Jersey from 1980 to 2024. According to the National Center for Environmental Information, storms by the name of Sandy, Irene, Enray, Henry, Ida, have become unfortunate household names who have taken the lives of homes of New Jersey residents. There are untold unnamed flash flooding events that occur regularly that flood our homes, cars, threaten our lives, and devastating our cherished valuables and bank accounts. The climate has changed, and it's time that we change as well. Back in August of 2000, a 1,000-year storm dumped up to 18 inches of rain and sparted Jefferson and Hopkong over the course of a weekend uh where roughly 2,700 homes and businesses in Sussex, Mars, Warren, and Hunan counties were flooded. According to federal records, state records show that 26 dams were damaged, four more failed. The storm caused an estimated $179 million in damage. We support the NJP packed real rules because they will use sound scientific modeling to implement common sense practices that require new and redevelopment projects to be built at an elevation above where it is and will flood through the year 2100. The rules will have no effect on current development. Finally, requires storm water management for redevelopment

projects. As one of the nation's oldest states has more New Jersey has more than 350 years of development with unmanaged storm water runoff, we need to require storm water management on redevelopment projects. If we are going to reduce flooding in our communities, uh encourage nature-based solutions to make it easier to restore wetlands, shoreline, flood planes, and water to reduce the impacts of flooding, improve water quality, and create natural habitat. We respectfully request that the NJ D adopt the NJ packed real rules as soon as possible to better protect the lives and property of residents of the Garden State and our small business businesses. Um and upon adoption, the NJP should propose the following amendments and guidance. Uh the first bullet point is eliminate the hardship waiver eligibility for affordable housing. People with less economic means have the right to live in a safe in safe places and should not be subject to higher risk of death and property damage because they have less money than some other New Jersey residents. Affordable housing should not be built in flood planes. The NJPACT real rules revisions allow for any development project that includes any amount of affordable housing to apply for a hardship waiver. This means that large projects can potentially institute an end run around the NJPACT real rule protections by simply including one affordable housing unit for the entire project. This provision must be eliminated to protect um all New Jersey residents. In the interim of new rulemaking department, the department should issue policy guidance directing that for any development project applying for a public benefit hardship waiver for affordable housing, the development should provide at least the required 20% of the units as affordable housing with none of the affordable units located in the proposed flood hazard areas. Uh enact the rules upon adoption. The current proposal delays implementation of the NJPACT real rules until July 2026. This delays delay allows developers to rush to the D to secure

development permits like last call at a shore bar in the summer. Those I didn't write that those development permits are valid for 7 to 10 years which will perpetuate the continuation of development in flood planes for up to a decade. The NJPAC real rules must be implemented upon adoption by the D rather than effectively delayed until well into the 2030s. The department should adopt an internal policy that it reviews administratively and technically complete applications on their merit as they are presented to the department. The department refrains from engaging with developers in an iterative iterative review process wherein the department works with the applicant to modify the application from what was submitted in order to achieve compliance. Sincerely, the Sparta Township Environmental Commission.

Thank you very much. Thank you. Nice job on that. Thank you. All right. Is there any other new business? I just wanted to uh tell everyone that our new Americanore, New Jersey watershed ambassador just started last week. Her name is Lena Olette. Uh she's a local Sussex County resident. She grew up in Wanage. So she just started in our office. So, I'll make sure that she's welcomed at one of our future meetings and we'll make sure she can come and introduce herself and see if she can do any presentations or projects with us in the year ahead. Great. That's awesome. And then Kim, do we have to do you want to go back just for the unfinished business to the the road salt that

Oh, I'm sorry. Yes. Yeah. Christine uh Christine Dunar asked because she wasn't going to be here today that we just review that we're going to be having that baseline salt study on October 12th which is a Sunday. It's going to be at um Sparta Public Library. And then we have the flyer posted on the website, right? So um residents can sign up, but she also wanted us as a commission to select which sites we're hoping to study. So, just getting a sense of who can participate that day so that we could have all the supplies that we need.

Yes. Um, I want to do I can never think of the name of the lake. The lake that's off of Glenn Road. Sagena. No. Yeah, I'll do Sagena. I'll do Lake Sagen. And then there's What's the other one with the dam? Morris Lake. I'll do Morris Lake. Um, and then I don't know how to name this spot, but it's behind like where the Chinese restaurant is and Sisters Nails behind that there's like a stream. Oh, okay. Good.

I'll do that one, too. That one in the winter it has had quite a bit of salt content. So, I definitely want Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah. So, I guess the stipulation it would be if we I think we're thinking if you surveyed a spot in the winter. Yeah. You can return to your spot, right? And then but they also really want to look at small streams in particular, but any stream that could be impacted by a roadway, a parking lot. Um, but also have some forested conditions as well if there's a stream because then it'll be a comparison.

Yep. I'll do East Mountain and I'll do Hayward's Road. There's a stream under Haywards. Um, and the last site I will have to look up because it's over. Where is Andre's restaurant? What lake is Andre's restaurant on? I'm so bad. Conference. Here it is. It does general admission 35 hours. It's Senica Lake started with an S. We could talk about not sure.

Um, yeah, we haven't in the past, I don't think, gotten it free for the rivers conference. I don't know if like have we ever paid through We have paid through the through here, but I don't know how much budget we have. How much is the river? It's 35. 35. Okay. But I'm going for free. Christine's going for free because we're part of the um committee that's planning it. Yeah. If you're interested in going, Ted, we can we can see how much budget we have. Are you did you want to go to the rivers conference? Okay. Um, all right. I'll also do there's a river that goes into Senica Lake. I don't know what the little stream is called, but that I'll also do that one. That's a site I do in the winter also.

So, I have five sites. Okay. And then I'm going to do um over by Sparta High School the Walkill um along West Mountain Road. And then I sampled at Station Park over the winter, but if someone from the public wants to do that, they can do that as well. So, we'll get that spot. Um over by Lake Grenell, there's the little stream that comes out of the lake. It's right off of That one's also off of West Mountain Road, kind of right in that lake community. So, I sampled there in the winter so I could go back to that one. And we probably want to do Glenbrook. And I think our watershed ambassador has done that in the past. So, I could

Where is Glen Brook? Um, in the park at the Glenn. Oh, yes. Okay. We'll get that one. Um, we should have someone do the walkill by the library. We could have I've I've been doing I did that last over the winter. So, that's a good one though for anybody who wants So, we should just like see who can come from our commission and then we'll we can divvy up the sites. Okay. And see if there's anyone from the public who does come that day. Yeah. Um, but who is planning on coming? Like I'm going to be there. Kim, you're gonna be there. Chris will be there. I'll be there.

Okay. Yeah. I don't know that I'll be there the whole time, but I will be there for some of it. Yeah. Good. Um, Nicholas, what this is, because you probably have no idea what we're talking about. So, what we've been doing is in the in the winter when they put salt on the roads, testing um the various streams. So, very shortly after a storm, you go out, you have a little uh way to collect water. It doesn't have to be that much water. And then you have little tabs that you can put in um test strips basically that tell you how much of the salt is in there. Um and then we've been recording it. And then there's a database that's there's a statewide one that we've been recording all this on. And so what we're trying to do now before we have any storms is collect some baseline data. So, is the salt getting into the environment and staying there? You know, we haven't had a storm now in I don't know when was the last storm, April. So, you know, at least six months. So, if there is still high salt content, then potentially we know that the salt is staying in the environment and not, you know, leaving the environment. Um, but also we'll have a baseline for all these different sites that when we do test in the winter, we'll we can compare them also. So that's what this is about. If you um we're having a like a kind of an event, it's not really like but various citizens can come and also get little tabs and test some water too. Like particularly if they have a site on their own property that they want to test. Um it's very good for them to come and get that baseline, you know, in the fall and then in the winter they could test also. We have more test strips available. So that's what it is. And it's on October 12th. And I think the time is noon to

I forget the I forget the time. 10 to two. 10 to two, I think. 10 to two. Okay. Yeah. And then the rain is Tuesday. Yeah. So unfortunately it's the middle of the week, but we have to work around if it rains. You can't have rain for a 48 hour period um be leading up to the event or on the day of the event because that's gonna um it's not going to be baseline anymore. It's going to be impacted then by the precipitation and the runoff that would be coming from the storm.

Yeah. Hopefully it will not rain. Although we need the rain. So, all right. Thank you for remembering that one, Christine. I forgot about it. All right. Any new business or old business that I forgot? All right. Hearing none. Do I have a motion to adjurnn? I'll make a motion to adjurnn. Thank you, Christine. Do I have a second? I'll second. Thanks, Rob. All in favor? I All right. getting these done in record time. Yeah,

we've had no serious reviews to do. I know when there's not that much to look at.