Open Space, Environment and Energy Committee - Regular Meeting

Yeah. Good evening, everyone. This is this today is Thursday, February 20, you know, at 6PM. It's a meeting of open space environment and energy. Wanted to say pursuant to chapter two of the acts of 2023.

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Certainly. Who's this roll call? Consulate Davis?

Here.

Consulate Wilson?

Present.

Consulate Burnley?

Present.

Councilor Klingon? Councilor Bah?

Present.

Mister chair, four members are present. One is absent. We have a quorum.

Thank you, Peter. I think the record she indicated that, councilor Said Said said she had, like, a childcare issue, so she couldn't make it tonight. Then we'll also be joined tonight by our newest, honorable staff liaison, Yasmin. So she'll be she's from IGH IGA. And then we will also have, some staff members from the administration.

And the way I intend again, like I mentioned in the beginning, this is gonna be a speed run meeting because, yeah, line use is meeting shortly afterward. So we would take some items out of order because we have our honorable commissioner here. So we will probably pick take item item two zero two five zero zero eight three that the commissioner of public works make a change to the calendar by extending the yard waste collection by at least one week. So that item was submitted by councilor Syed. It will be nice to hear from the commissioner because this to see if, yeah, I don't wanna put words in the commissioner's mind.

But just to be curious to know, you know, how much like, is to add an extra week to the time period in the fall with the CDs collection. So just to be curious to know what she thinks is gonna happen with all the logistics involved. So com commissioner Leland, good to see you. Take it away.

Good evening. Good evening, chairperson. And good evening. Joe Lathan, commissioner of DPW. So, you know, looking at our yard waste, couple reasons why we don't extend that.

You know, heading into December, we're really into the midst of our preparing for our snow season, really shifting our work projects, making sure that our roads are gonna be ready for snow season such as potholes, making sure that there's any other work going on around the city before snow season that we really have the time and the and the staff capacity to do so, and and really don't want any extra barriers for that. So yard waste really starts mid April, and it goes through, you know, to that December. That's about seven months and three weeks or so. Those last two months, October, November, that's every single week of yard waste collection. That is plenty of time in in my really professional opinion for folks to really do their due diligence and get their yard waste up.

If it's things that that come after December for some reason for for individuals, they can all they can always drop off that yard waste to the yard. But we really like to hold hold firm to that first week in December so we can really kinda get ready for our next season next season that we need to kinda we see ahead of. So, again, we start mid April. We end that that December. That's a good seven months and and three weeks.

In the last ten weeks, it's every single week to pick up the yard waste. So we feel like we are doing our due diligence in allowing folks the time and space needed to really organize and plan and prioritize their yard their yard cleanup so we can actually move on to our next season and get ready for the snow season. So that's kind of really why we kinda hold fast to that first week in in December.

Thank you, Commissioner Leiden. I guess, also, like, what I you know, I'm also curious to know, like, if also, do like, if you extend it also, like, do the contracts of the the haulers, like, you know, like, would they also need to be amended? You know, like because I know that there's all this logistical stuff too. Like, how does that play? You know?

Yeah, mister chair. That would have to be an amendment to a contract, and that'd have to be definitely more monies added on to that contract for that particular caller if, you know, if that decision if, you know, if we went that way. Like I said, we've been holding fast to this consistency. It's not really I mean, the financial piece, you know, is is always a factor that we wanna consider, but we really look at, you know, the amount of time that's given to our residents to actually do the yard waste, the flexibility for them to to drop off the work yard yard waste to DPW after that December. And so we really feel like that means really we've been accommodating and flexible as far as, you know, being able to receive yard waste after the date.

Okay. Thank you, commissioner Leiden. Appreciate your time. At this point, I'll open it to members of the committee. I'm not sure who raised their hand first, but in order of seniority, maybe councilor Davis. Is that okay, chair Wilson? Take it away, councilor Davis.

Alright. Thank you, mister chair. Thank you, commissioner Lathan, for being here and for, for the information on that. First, I so I just wanna make sure I understand because I I I I thought I heard maybe two two different concepts here. Is is is the yard waste collection done by, in house staff, or is it done by a contracted, hauler?

Through the chair. We have

a contracted hauler for this. Okay. So I guess so if it's a contracted hauler, is it then I'm not quite sure how the prepping our work towards the winter impacts or, like, how that would impact our our our in house preparation for winter work, potholes, and everything else. Is it,

like Yes.

How how are those related?

Through the chair. Anytime that we see any kind of exception, to when we have a upcoming winter, any kind of issues that we're going to additionally be aware of. Now the trash barrels is always a consistent issue for that. And if and and when, you know, worse comes to worse, if we have to delay a child's trash pickup because of a severe weather emergency, that's one thing. If worse comes to worse, we've got to delay a trash pickup and we have bags of leaves that's going to be definitely impacted and spread around and hit, that's another issue. So that's how that will impact the snow as our snow events moving forward. So, you know, the trash barrels are in, you know, hardened containers. The the leaf bags are in paper bags.

Right. Okay. Through you, mister chair. So I I guess I don't you know, I think I'm I'm not really seeing the connection to the to the I thought that was sort of the maybe the the the one. Initially, I thought that might be a point to sort of, make a compelling argument here, but I I'm not sure.

Again, I'm just not sure I see the connection there. I think, you know, I first off, like, you know, I think that the the fact that we do the is awesome, you know, and and very much appreciated. It's, know, in addition to all of the all of the important things that that the folks in your department do, and, you know, as well as those that were, as well as the importance of the work that we're that we're outsourcing to to contractors, we'll set aside the conversation of, you know, bringing that types type of stuff back in house, someday. But I I guess I just wanna I wanna kinda push back a little bit at the at the, at the argument that there is plenty of time to do yard work. And and the reason I say that is and for let me start this point by by acknowledging, I think, if my memory serves, we we did extend yard waste pickups several years ago, following a request that I made early in my time on the council, because of, frankly, just the way that our trees primarily are are acting differently now as the as the climate, changes.

And what I heard from councilor Saeed was, sort of that same argument, and my own personal experience, backs up that, as as diligent as as as anyone might want to be throughout the summer and particularly as we get into that fall season, it's simply not possible to, you know, collect up and and and and prepare for, for collection anything that folks do want to pull up. I know there's also certainly an argument to leave things down, for all of the environmental benefits that that has, but, you know, again, folks can can make that choice. But, you know, the fact of the matter is, the last several years, my observation has been that there's still stuff on the trees after our yard our final yard waste collection comes around. So that's, I think, the problem, at least the the that's how, you know, what I look at as being the the problem we're trying to to sort of think about here and have a conversation about. And, you know, definitely appreciate and understand the the various pulls and, you know, things that that that pull you all in different directions and and and challenges there.

So, you know, not not to not to diminish any of those. You know, I I I guess I in an ideal world, I would still love to see one additional week of yard waste pickup. If that means shifting the contract from, you know, taking that first every week pickup and shifting it to the end. You know? I think you said it's the last month or so whenever.

Whenever we would otherwise start pickup on a week that wouldn't normally be a pickup. Right? Don't start that week. Flip it to the end. I think that would be more more useful for folks because, obviously, many people in the community aren't able to to load stuff up into a vehicle and and drive it to to DPW for a variety of reasons, including many folks in the in the community don't have vehicles. Pretty pretty straightforward. So that that's kind of the that's where I'm coming from with Aquest.

You know? And and like I said, I

I I do get the the the push and pull here. And particularly, if this is a an outsourced contract in service, then, you know, you know, maybe we and I don't know how I don't know when that contract is up. Maybe it's next time next time the contract's up, we have a conversation about rather than, you know, rather than keeping the same number of weeks of picks up pickups, but shifting one in the the beginning of the every week to the end of the every week or something. Just because, you know, folks can't break stuff that is still hanging on a tree, if you know if you know what I mean. Right? So that's kinda where I'm coming from, and I'll I'll leave it at that.

Thank you, councilor Davis. So, commissioner, do do you have any thoughts about, like, shifting, like, starting, like, maybe third week, you know, in in since you say start mid April, like, if it's is it a possibility to start, like, third week in mid in third week in April and then add, like, an extra week? Is that is that doable?

Well, miss Sharon, I think anything's, you know, possible for discussion. I think it's also you know, we're gonna have complaints for residents who want to start earlier. Who want to to actually do their, you know, work in April instead of the end of the season, and then that's gonna be another, you know, pain point for some residents. I think that we're trying to find consistency and structure in that middle ground. We serve all the community in Somerville, and so that means we gotta find that happy balance with some folks who prefer to, you know, do that fall cleanup and some folks who prefer to do that spring cleanup.

So I think that is actually something that we have to consider. But I think, you know, moving sure. Moving it taking out a week in April and possibly extending. Just keep in mind, if when when and if there's a storm in eighth in in December and those bags cannot be picked up because of that storm and those bags get, you know, dispersed and moved and that those materials get spread out onto those residents' sidewalks and lawns, that's not DPW's responsibility to come back and clean up. And so I think we have to really be realistic about the the operational challenges of extending into December.

I think is is is anything possible? Absolutely. I think we have to really be honest with ourselves and be realistic about repercussions of those kind of decisions. But, you know, definitely, you know, we wanna look at what is the need. You know, we kinda look at the we wanna look at the data for the climate and to see what's really act happening. And if if, you know, if our if we're having, you know, our winter starting later in a consistent, you know, pattern, then that's something that we definitely should be looking at and and and modifying our our, you know, standard operating procedures accordingly. So that's just kinda currently our way of thinking, but, you know, definitely, we're always open to consider other possibilities as long as we're all clear about those ramifications.

Mister, just

quick question. If

I may

Is it on that, I mean?

Yeah. It's not on the exact point. Just to be clear, the the the suggestion I was making was not to take a week off from April, but it you know, where where you said the every week pickup starts and let's say it starts November the November. I can't remember what it is. Right? But but to to to to continue every other week for one week longer. Right? So it's it's so we're we're we're we're only addressing the shift in the fall season, not touching the spring season because I agree with you. Right? Folk folks wanna get out there in April.

It's getting warmer sooner too. Right? So to agree there, I was talking about recognizing that we're seeing the climate change. We're seeing things stay on trees longer, so therefore, that every week maybe doesn't need to start when it does. If if we're gonna try and keep it at, you know, a net zero, for lack of a better phrase, concept, move one of those weeks to the end just just to to, you know, to try and address that concern.

Through the chair. So you're saying so instead of starting October, that first week in October every week, starting that second week in October every week.

Exactly. Exactly. Just as an as an idea.

They should keep it at net zero, but fiscally net zero. Okay.

Exactly. I

I I like the net you guy you guys have I like the net zero thing. Councilor Wilson, thank you for your patience. I was I said this meeting was gonna be a speed run, but I can see where it's going. Anyway, councilor Wilson.

Oh, thanks, chair. I'll be quick. Quickly wanna thank councilor Davis for for asking the clarifying question about the contracted hauling impact in the in house, snow removal operations. To commissioner Lathan's point about containers versus bags of leaves, I'll just say, you know, we can we can put a yard waste sticker on a receptacle, make it a reasonable container for curbside pickup that would might help with that. I understand the drop off option for yard waste at the DPW yard after that end of curbside collection. Not every Somervilleian owns a private vehicle and is able to do that. So through the chair to commissioner Lathan, is there any possibility of of setting up some sort of option for a request for for yard side or curbside pickup of yard waste after that end for folks who aren't able to physically bring it to the DPW yard?

To the chair, I think that's always a possibility with financial, you know, allocation. I mean, that's that's that's the financial allocation that would, you know, have to be and they would have to be able to really push back to making sure that there are some standards for that and there are some regulations for that. Not just because, oh, I forgot that I missed the date. You know? So I think we have we have to look at, you know, work whether we work with council on aging and working with our senior population.

That's, you know, that's sometimes those are the calls we get after the date. We have a senior who, you know, for some reason, wasn't wasn't able to get the yard waste out, and so we work with the counseling agents to figure out how we can assist that fix it to our seniors. So we have had situational things like that that have occurred with our senior population, and and we've kind of worked with the council on aging to to take care of that that particular resident. Now there hasn't been a lot of calls about that, but, you know, in my in my, you know, almost four to five years here that has happened a few times with our senior populations. Again, you know, this is a great I mean, it's a great discussion.

I think we have some options to look at. But, again, I wanna go back to us being realistic about, the ramifications as we head deeper into December.

Sure. I I appreciate, these willingness to to have these conversations. I'll just say, I'm left with another separate question that it might be a rhetorical one that I just wanna leave here, and then I'll I'm I'm happy to to turn this over to other people. That is what do we make of the benefits to pollinators from leaving leaves on the ground, over the winter versus the concerns that we heard about last night in in rodent issues about creating ground coverage for rodents, if that does stay in place over the winter. It seems like it might be one of those cases where honorable, noble causes find themselves in opposition. Just wanted to to name that here.

If I may just just to piggyback on that, you know, we do have those concerns, especially around our parks and playgrounds and our school areas. And which is why we're very diligent about, you know, making sure our lead pickup is consistent, and we're doing it around our buildings and schools and playgrounds. That's definitely an issue. It could be an issue for residents as we head into deeper into December with moving the ground call because, you know, people are gonna have their strong beliefs on both sides, and, you know, we're just here to to look look out for all the city and make sure that we're doing the best we can.

Thank you, And I let, let me first of all hear from councilor Burnley before I kinda, like, wrap this thing up. I know to figure out, like, where we are going with this. Councilor Burnley, I think I saw your hand up. You know?

Still up, sir. Thank you. Through the chair, great discussion thus far. I wanna just make the point that, of course, we can there can be a pollinator friendly yards without overgrowth even with, you know, foil foliage on the ground and leaves on the ground without overgrowth. But set that aside.

I had a two pair question. The first, which is a little just preliminary, and I hope the chair will please indulge me just because it it kinda gets a a side effect similar to the nature that councilor Wilson mentioned to through you to the director. Is your department involved at all with the composting pilot and any potential plans for a larger expansion to that pilot?

The chair, we work with the OSC department on that. They're the kind of spearheading spearheading that that pilot. We're just, you know, working with them and and partnering with them with our hazardous waste and materials manager position. But they're they're really they're really spearheading that. We're we're supporting factor with them. Okay.

Thank you. Yeah. And the re the reason I bring that up, and it's it's hard for me to say what the the full impact of this will be because we don't have a full blown composting program in the city. So we there's no way for us to really have data on what what folks are composting. Having said that, yard waste or some yard waste at the very least is compostable materials.

So I think as we do this pilot and as we grapple with the potential expansion of it citywide, it's gonna be important for the departments that are implicated in this project to think about how it may affect our other contracts, potentially about how much yard waste we are moving out throughout the city in different methods. Because leaves, foliage, all these sorts of things, you can compost, and they they have natural benefits to doing that for our soil and, frankly, also for rats. They you know, you put a you throw away some food and then you cover it in leaves super deep and that suddenly the smell of the food doesn't go as far. So I just kinda wanted to name that because so many of these contracts and programs and services that the city provides live in a an intricate balance with one another where when you see one program kind of taking on more things, it might pull for something else, recycling to trash, to composting, etcetera. So I just kinda want to name that because that may be something that we have to grapple with more in the coming months and years, and I think it's quite relevant for yard waste writ large.

Thank you. Thank

you, councilor Bonnie. I guess, commissioner, to this is, you know, just information that is, you know, that to be to to be considered. But this is but for the intent of this item about extension of, you know, like, yard waste, I mean, what I wanna defer to you, like, how do you what is now like, you've had all this conversation. So just tell me, like, what you think is realistically, what is possible, and then, so we can decide what to do with this item.

Yes, mister chair. I think, you know, I I like the idea of possibly, you know, councilor Davis, your idea about, you know, moving out the other instead of having ten weeks of every week, nine weeks. I do want need to talk with my contractor to see about what is actually you know, if you get their thoughts and feasibility on that. I have reached out with him today. I'm waiting to hear back some information from him.

You know, maybe I would find a compromise with that, definitely. I love working together in these kind of discussions where we can find that middle ground. But I do like the idea of possibly looking at moving, you know, the the extra week, but also having, you know, less less every single week take up. So I just need to really talk with my team and tease this out with my contractor. They've done a phenomenal job for us, and I want to make sure that they're part of the the process in this.

Thank you.

Mister chair, could I could I move that we, leave this one on committee to, hear back what the commissioner comes up with if or or, you know, if if if anything, if there's, you know, other other you know, just whatever feedback after, chance chance to take a look at it.

Absolutely, councilor Davis. Thank you, counselor Leighton, for your time and for all the work you do. You know? You got, like, the highest heavy lift heavy lifting in the city. I appreciate your time.

You know, I I love this job, and I am privileged and grateful every day to be able to be the commissioner, of this phenomenal department. So thank you.

Thank you.

So,

wow. I can't believe it. Anyway, so now the next one that we're gonna take out of order, according to Yasmin, it's 250070 that the director of this is probably gonna be our last item. But it did then if it's okay with members of the committee, just bear with me, that the director of, the office of sustainability and environment discussed with this council plans to connect more household with new incentives in 2025 and to to 2027 massive plan. And, for those in the public, you know, sometime I always try to, like, give, like, a little rationale just so that people can understand, you know, what we're talking about.

This is, you know, of course, a good counselor, counselor Wilson. But for those in the public, Massive is a program that is provided by a group of utility companies in the state, which helps homeowners and small business in the state to make changes in their homes and premises to save energy and reduce emission. So people can sign up for a home energy assessment and receive a visit from an energy specialist who inspects the house and provides a report recommending the ways to make improvements that will reduce energy use. So the program can also provide a decarbonization consultant who will help a homeowner or business owner that is planning to install new equipment or do construction, helping to choose the best new technology. So each of the different products and technology has a related financial incentive, such as rebates for certain types of equipment, discount from the contract, price or interest, free loans for construction and installation.

So some of the rebates and discount apply on an income eligible basis. There's also a list of local contractors who would do the job at discounted prices, working directly with Massive. So just wanted to give that, you know, yeah, preference that for the, you know, for the public. So, I don't know if councilor Wilson wanna provide some more insight before, director Addison. You know? Like, maybe

chair, I I I spoke about this when I introduced it. I I like, Davis, I have to jump to land use here in about two and a half minutes, so happy to hear what, what staff has to say here.

Okay. Take it away, Garrett.

Oh, thanks, mister chair. I will, try to keep it under ninety seconds then. So, we're excited about the 2025 to 2027 plan. I should say that it is going, for final authorization in front of the DPU on the twenty eighth, which would make all these incentives and and programs official. But, yeah, at a high level, we're very excited about the enhancement of turnkey services for decarbonization measures.

And by that, I mean putting in heat pumps, which is an enhancement to the program in many ways, which in the past has been heavily focused on turnkey insulation and air sealing and and those measures, which are important for efficiency. But, you know, we see that program adding in decarbonization as well, which is an exciting element of the program. For the city's part, we're doing a lot of things. We have a new energy adviser position. Her name is Shannon Taylor.

She started in October, and her role is exclusively to work with residents on decarbonization. This is often a difficult process for many individuals. There's a lot of, you know, contractors involved, a lot of different measures, and and and things that happen over time, ways to finance it, ways to get rebates, etcetera. And so her role is to help people through that process. She's already working with the public, several dozen members of the public at this point, and we're working hard to get her out there in new places.

So for example, today, she was at a vaccine clinic at the Council on Agen just to meet with people who were in the waiting room and maybe talk to them about the program. Also, the beyond her position, we are have recently been admitted into the community first partnership program, which is an element of Mass Save, which will both fund that energy adviser position for a third year, so going all the way through 2027, and provide some money for outreach materials, etcetera, as well as a higher level of coordination between us and Mass Save for outreach and for getting data back about which households are undertaking measures. In Summerville, you know, we have challenges around decarbonization. Most particularly, we have a high rental housing population, which is a core problem across many communities wherein tenants are paying the energy bills and are, you know, most directly impacted by energy efficiency, but building owners are the ones that, you know, undertake those measures. So that is partly what the energy adviser position is about is to try to bridge that gap and and and work with tenants and building owners together so that they can make improvements to their to their building capital by undertaking these efficiency measures and swapping out their their gas and oil burning appliances with new energy electric heat pumps and and other technologies.

So, yeah, beyond public events, we're undertaking a series of of letter campaigns to targeted households. We're gonna be trying out a bunch of different messages and and subpopulations to reach out to. We're first starting with households that we believe are still heated by oil because that is a one of the highest cost energies out there. And so we think that the these incentives are kind of most compelling for that population. But we're also going to be working specifically on rental properties, you know, the small two and three unit rental properties in in in particular, environmental justice census districts across Summerville, of which we have many.

So yeah. So we're gonna be, you know, doing a lot of different things with the synergy adviser. My goal is to get her name, phone number, and contact information out to the public in as many ways as possible. To that end, we're using we're also creating posters that we'll be putting up around all the blue bike stations and across those big belly, trash stations that will be connected to the, the different, facets of the Climate Forward agenda, buildings being one of them. And we'll connect residents directly through QR codes to, particular web sub subpages of our Climate four web site that will have specific actions that people can undertake.

So, you know, the idea, hopefully, is that someone sees that that poster about buildings and undertaking retrofits, they scan that QR code, it takes them straight to our Summerville Energy Efficiency Now page that will have Shannon's contact information right at the top and a way for them to directly get in touch with her and also, schedule an energy audit and and undertake that process. So I think that was more than ninety seconds, but I will, I will pause there for questions.

Thank you, Garrett. And, councilor Wilson, can I just ask two quick ones? And then I'm gonna give it to you. I know you have to go, but, I will even not even you have to go. We were all close together, but he's I just yes. Thank you for your patience with me, councilor Wilson. So, Garrett, one quick question I have is, like, how many, like, homeowners and businesses in some of it have already, like, used Massive? Do you like, is it like, do you have a rough estimate of that number?

Thank you for the question. No. The truth is we that is data sharing with Massive is a complexity that many, communities encounter. My hope and expectation is through our participation in their community first partnership program, we're gonna be getting a higher level of data access from the utility about the measures that are being undertaken in Summerville. There are, of course, data privacy concerns about knowing which particular households have undertaken measures and what those measures are, but I'm looking forward to working with the the CFP team, to figure out, you know, how much data can be shared and how we can use that in our own, targeting efforts.

Okay. I will let, councilor Wilson, you know, finish. I have, like, a a couple of questions to ask, but I'll let councilor Wilson ask his questions and then decide what where we should move from here just and then then we can we can wrap up the meeting. Councilor Wilson, thank you for your patience.

I actually I don't have any further questions about this. I totally anticipated that that city staff would be on top of this, from the sound of that update we got. That sounds like it's every bit the case. So, yeah, I'm just looking forward to seeing what we can do here, you know, making sure that that the people of Summerville, the property owners, and the renters know about these mass save incentives. And I'm just I'm encouraged that, at the state level, we're taking seriously the the real, challenge of, making our rental units, you know, of which Summerville has a large number, you know, a real target for for making those more energy efficient. Because as we all know, buildings, number one source of, of carbon, in in Somerville. So

Oh, thank you. It yep. And

Let's get after it.

Should we close should we close this item?

I think councilor Burnley might have something on this.

But Oh, sorry, councilor Wisson, councilor Burnley. And then, another quick one is, Garrett, just consider adding this information to say that I'm sure this is probably what is in the works. But if somebody, is doing, like, contractor work or electric work, like, going to a homeowner, I'm sure, like, inspectional service will be, like, an integral part of this movement so that you can and they can provide information about Massive to, like as they are trying going around doing all this work, you know, around, properties. So

No. Thank thank you, mister chair. I I did want I forgot to say we have one of those things that we have done is created a little pamphlet about the energy adviser position and and the math save incentives. And my goal is to get that on all all the counters where the city interacts with the public. Right? So that it's it's among all the materials that are that are out there and available.

Okay. Councilor Bundy, is, my apologies.

Due to the chair, just check Fells Way West for Oilers Oiler houses. Alright. That's all I had to add.

Wait. Say that again?

Fells Way West, once home to one counselor Willie Burnley Junior, definitely has announces. You know?

Oh my god. Thank you so much. You know? Thank you, guys. Thank you, staff. Thank you, Peter and Yasmin. I appreciate your time. So we will dispose of this item. Is that good for you, councilor Wilson?

Chair, I think this is work completed. So

Wonderful. So thank you, Garrett, for your time. And so we'll keep the rest of the items in, in committee. And, with that, I will move to adjourn the meeting. Thank you, Garrett, again. Thank you, Yasmeen and Peter. So, Peter, can you call for adjournment, please?

Yes. On adjournment. Councilor Davis. Councilor Wilson. Yes, please. Councilor Burnley.

Aye.

Councilor Klingen. And councilor Barr.

Yes, please.

Mister chair, three members have voted to adjourn. Two are absent. We are adjourned.

Thank you so much. Thanks, Yasmin.