City Council - Regular Meeting

You know, I'd like to wear suits. I'm not comfortable with that.

Barenstein.

Present.

Bertrand. Rayford.

Present.

Shainer.

Present. Please stand up for a moment of silent prayer following the sermon of allegiance.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. which represent a nation under the aegis of God, indivisible, with freedom and justice. The simplified order of the day today includes points 2 and 10. You can consider them as adopted unanimously, unless a member of the council asks for a vote by nominal appeal. If you wish to express yourself on one of these points, please move forward while I read them. If you want to talk about an out-of-order point of the day, please move forward during the citizens' concerns. Do not forget to always decline your name for the consent. We propose to adopt the simplified order of the day. Press. Point 2 is the reading of the verbal trial of the municipal council of 10 August. Point 3 is the resolution naming Sean Strayck as director of the airport, modifying the authorized employees and the salary grid by adding the post and the title of airport director. Just a little question.

In the employee component, it was a matter of a sum of Eighty-two thousand dollars plus an increase of forty-five thousand dollars. May I have an explanation of what that means?

Yes, Theresa, we have restructured this because of my departure. We have restructured this because of my departure.

Theresa Fitch, municipal director, so the immediate impact is negative of about eighty-two thousand dollars as you can see in this... The maximum is. So when this post reaches the maximum of the salary scale, the negative impact will be only 42,000 or 43,000 dollars once the post has reached the top of the scale. This is a special case because we eliminated a post there and added this one, and Mike's post was partially allocated to this location. So it's really different. And you saw it when we presented the restructuring of the common transport, which included an addition. So they were really compensated, but they were in two different funds. So we became the treaties separately.

Were these other responsibilities that Mike had as... Even them.

So they were a little intertwined.

Very good. Mr. Mayor and members of the council, I would like to introduce you to M. Sean Strike if you want to move forward. Sean, introduce yourself. Sean has been a colonel at the 185th for more than 30 years. He will soon become a civilian. Next month, I think. So maybe just a little word about you and...

It looks like you're already wearing the civilian outfit, so you're ready.

I have to choose my clothes in the morning now. It's going to be a challenge. Well, hello everyone. My name is Sean Strick, as it was mentioned. Mentioned. I was absent. So I come from Slow Mo, to come back a little on my own path. Engaged in 1992, recruited by Dennis Washroom and Denny Maney a long time ago to take care of the finances of the Air Squadron. I spent 10 years, you know, a whole decade with the planes to travel the world. I've been to many different aerodromes. These last 5 years, I've really devoted my energy to the SULAND NEXUS project. The ramp, the track, all the projects that go with it. Very much in terms of security, emergency management and I just want to thank you infinitely for this opportunity. The responsibilities left by Mike are great and I hope to make you proud.

Congratulations.

Good luck and good work. Yes, I think it's an enthusiastic announcement for us. Your experience at the 185th, your knowledge of the community, you understand the needs we have and the importance of the 185th, but also of the commercial aeronautical component. So congratulations and thank you for accepting this position. Thank you.

Thank you all. Thank you Sean.

Where are the actions related to the subsidies? A is an authorised resolution. The city has associated with the Human Investment Partnership of Suiland and authorising the signing of a preliminary agreement for the Westside Promises subsidy. B is an authorised resolution. The police department has accepted the funds of the GIAG commemorative program. B.J. Edward Byrne. This is a resolution approving and accepting the subvention for the hot spots methamphetamine of Iowa coming from the office of the control policy of the drugs of Iowa to help the police in these surveys of average to high level. This is a resolution approving and accepting the subvention of the anti-heroic work group of the office of the control policy of the drugs of Iowa to help the police in these surveys on the heroin of average to high level.

Just a quick question on BC&D. Captain, are you present for this? The question is, are the amounts of subsidies this year consistent with those of previous years? And I'm curious, I was teasing Nicole at her entrance about anti-heroism because at the legal service, I was wondering if heroin is still a major problem or if it is simply where funds are available.

Ryan Bertrand, captain in uniform. Dollar amounts are relatively constant. The first subsidy, that of a $30,000 amount, is a sum that we end up sharing with the county, but... That's it. Every year. So... We throw them a little pick to say that we do all the work, that they get half the money. In short, it's a friendly taunting, but... The other amounts are quite constant. Yes, we still have heroin in the area. The objective or the effect of this grant is to try to target the intermediate-level investigations to increase. It is not simply an officer who falls on it by accident and asks for additional hours on the grant. It is intended for higher-level investigations where we could target a supplier or someone who deals with larger quantities. Thank you.

E is an authorizing resolution and approves the submission of a loan application for a project sponsored by water resources restoration as well as a performance agreement with the DNR of the IOWA to finance the project to improve the drainage of Palaski Park. So is it a loan fund or a grant? Is it a... We who will...

I'm sorry. Armand Environmental Services.

Is it a subsidy or a loan?

It's a loan, but we already have the money thanks to the SRF funding. So it's money that has already been given to us, but they call it a loan. So, Teresa?

We don't pay anything back.

We don't pay.

Okay, that's what I wanted to know. I know, confused.

Okay, thank you. It's one of those that are annulable. Is that right? For the SRF funding?

Tom Pingel, Director of Public Works. What was your question?

An annulable SRF loan?

It is a SRF loan, sponsored. What they do is that from past projects carried out at the purification plant, all the interest we have paid, they reimburse us to invest them in some high-quality projects.

So it is indeed a subsidy. And we have the funds. We do not have to repay the capital or the interest. That's right.

I thought we were repaying. Okay, that's even better news then.

Five measures concerning road closures. A is a resolution modifying resolution number 2026.034. to correct the date of the event for the temporary closures of the city center on August 29 for the duelist piano event. P is a resolution temporarily closing various streets in the Morningside neighborhood on September 22 for the East High High School parade. C is a temporarily closing resolution of various streets in the Morningside neighborhood on September 18 for the school entrance parade at the Sulean Christiane house. B is a temporary resolution of a part of Floyd Boulevard and Jefferson Street on September 21 for the North High entrance parade. U is a temporary resolution of various streets in the city center on September 5 for the Ali-Ali Art Festival. 6 are actions related to agreements and contracts. A is a resolution authorizing negotiations with USP Technologies for control services, odors and the supply of chemical products. Tom, it's still you. Why do you think we have received only one offer? Tom Piguel, Director of Public Works. I think it's because few suppliers now supply pumps and tanks to store chemical products and manage them outside the city. They therefore provide all this service in addition to providing the product. And we wanted other suppliers to not have to invest our capital in this project. And I think that's the main reason. Many of them were used to providing this support.

Are you convinced that even with a single candidate, it is a competitive offer and conforms to the specifications? Yes. Thank you.

B is a resolution authorizing and approving a service contract for school outings with the community school district of Sioux City for transport services. These are actions related to the property. A is a resolution approving and accepting a session act of the county of Woodbury and authorizing the payment for the property at 4017 Street Street.

Regarding the transfer of materials, it is indicated that all the environmental cleaning required has been carried out. Is it planned that an additional environmental cleaning is necessary? It's the word that made me doubt, that made me doubt.

René Billings, responsible for economic development. Part of the protocol in agreement with the county demanded that they carry out all cleaning. They provided us with a letter of non-intervention from the DNR. All cleaning has therefore been carried out.

Thank you René. D is an inviting resolution and proposals for the sale of part of the 200 South Core Street in the urban renewal area of the city center of Sioux to Sioux City, announcing the intention of accepting the proposal of the IDOT and programming an audience. I would like to know, we have 30 days, but how much have we paid and how much do we receive for this land? Is this part of the Leichner site? I thought. That's why I want to make sure that we're not just giving ourselves our own money. We bought it in the hope of making benefits on this land and I'm afraid that's not the case. I'm afraid that we're selling it at the price we bought it.

We still have the west side of South Core Street. So we still have land there. We bought it with the intention of positioning ourselves in the area for when the DOT... We bought it for many reasons.

Anyone who bought a land two years ago would have been entitled to a price increase Why do I think we sell it at the price we bought it?

It's pretty close.

And they did an evaluation.

It's the estimated price.

I would like to see our evaluations. So there is no urgency. We have 32. I love the way the state takes our land. For anyone else, they pay a rent for the land. They will use a part of the old site of the slaughterhouse to store equipment for the work, I can guarantee it. And they don't pay us any rent, whereas for anyone else here, they would pay. I mean, I want to cooperate with the state, but they should pay the citizens of Sioux City the same thing. That they pay everyone and we don't impose it. It is an inviting resolution to present proposals for the acquisition of a temporary construction service on a part of 200 South Court Street in the urban renewal area of the CBD of Central Sioux City, announcing the intention of accepting the proposal of the DOT and programming an audience. Eight are actions related to the purchases. A is a resolution to order the CDW Government for the security and governance platform of the Varronis data. B is a resolution approving a subscription service contract with Varonis Systems for the Varonis data security and governance platform.

My question was simply, I noticed that 10 suppliers had been requested, but we only received one qualified offer. So, as Craig asked earlier, are we at ease with a single competitive offer?

Who just told me these last minutes originally when we made a kind of pre-call for an offer? We had an offer and there were actually two offers that Spiro told me.

The bureau is responsible for the purchases. There are actually two offers that have been submitted. CDIW has submitted one, and it also sells computers.

So did they arrive after the offer was called?

No, they arrived before and I think they were forgotten during the writing of the report.

So your analysis remains to support this proposal.

It's always the right one. I appreciate Keikika asking the question because I asked myself the same. But Nicole, you had the opportunity to review the agreement, including the clause of limitation of responsibility

We have tried to modify the format proposed by the provider and these are the conditions on which we agreed. Although it is not ideal, they have brought some modifications.

Okay, thank you. Is Véronus the only source for point 8b since it is their contract?

Thank you. Let's continue. This amendment or this addition, does it include the cost of the design and the graphics for these two panels or are we always responsible for the visuals?

Jessica Johnson, office of the municipal director. Yes, that includes everything. These are the logos on these two interchangeable panels that we will use for the tournaments. When we are not in a tournament period, these two panels will simply be neutral parts of the field.

Thank you, Jessica. Point 9, request for a license for alcohol, verbal process of advice, commission and committee. This concludes the order of the day of consent. We will vote by electronic voice. The public audience is now open. Anyone who wishes to speak is invited to come to the microphone.

Michelle Bosnels, Vice President of the Urbanism Commission. For this point, we have recommended a mixed use, because the initial request was for general commercial use. We are concerned about some uses that could occur under the general commercial category if the property was sold later. There were a lot of contributions from the public during the meeting. Many very positive things about the company that is setting up, but also concerns in the neighborhood concerning this general commercial use, alcohol, traffic, etc. The Commission of Urbanism therefore thought that it would be preferable to opt for a mixed use and to ask the petitioners to request a conditional use permit for alcohol.

The conditional use permit therefore passes through the Recruitment Committee on the board of FADJESMA.

Exactly.

And it was finalized?

Yes, it was last week.

And we only approve the action of the Recruitment Committee. We have nothing to say about it. Exactly.

The request was therefore waiting for the change of zoning to a mixed use.

Is the recurrence satisfied? Are the neighbors also concerned about this conditional use?

There were not many neighbors at this meeting. There was, I think he is in the public, a gentleman who still had some concerns about this subject. Maybe just a little confusion about the difference between mixed use and general commercial and what is allowed.

Well, they can take the floor now if they want.

Hello, my name is Joe Protextra, I am the owner of Sulon Golf Lessons. I am trying to buy this property in order to move my company to a more permanent location. You know, the conditional use permit was simply part of my approach to be able to serve beer and wine to my clients. And you know, I only worked with the Adjustment Council and the Urbanism Service to find a solution that suits everyone. That's why we moved to this mixed-use zoning, because it allows me to continue to manage my business. But if I ever had to leave this place, the next person would also have to follow this process to make sure that everything is in line with the regulations. But honestly, I don't think I'm going to move out right away. And as far as the biggest concern is concerned with the sale of alcohol, I don't think we agreed that I could only sell up to 21 hours.

And it was explicitly stated in the use permit.

And it's limited to beer and wine? Yes. Very good. I remember you at the innovation market. You have traveled a long way. Congratulations.

Yes, that's great. And as far as companies are concerned, the vast majority of my activity consists of golf courses. Although we do a lot of other things, You know, from a philanthropic perspective, I donated golf courses at the Arts Centre and Saint-Lux. Almost everyone who asks me for, you know, their basket for silent inquiries, I am always delighted to make donations for this kind of thing. We just finished a six-week internship called PGA Hope, which offers free golf courses to veterans of the community of... And as a person working full-time at 180 Schemes, it was really a great opportunity to be able to give golf courses to people I consider as my colleagues, as well as those who took their help from the service. You know, among the future projects for the company, I also plan to contact schools to see if we can encourage more children to start golfing. We have a lot of young high schoolers who play at a very, very high level. And unfortunately, there is no one else than me in the city who teaches golf regularly. You can go to a golf course and try to organize something with the pro. But unfortunately, it's more complicated than my current process. And then we also have the recreational section. You know, when it's winter and there's not much to do, you can come inside, rent a bay and play on one of the We have more than 500 courses available in the program. We just had a good time. You know, something quite familiar. And yes, we will try to continue on this launch, as well as with our children's internships and all the other activities that we offer.

Are you planning to be open in the spring and in the summer as well?

I am open all year round because, as it is indoors, we are not really limited by the weather. I can't say we sleep in a blizzard, of course, but you know, once the snow has melted ... ... to resume our activities

What about the back of your property? So if you are on Gordon and you look, you see the front of your property.

Towards the back of your property, what is your proximity with residential properties that could share a...

There are three residential houses on the back, but there is a buffer zone as well as a kind of hedge or a tree line that blocks the view.

But there is a parking right there because... So there is a parking lot in the back. Yes, because it used to be a church, so there are a lot of parking spaces. It was actually one of the great concerns of the Urbanism Commission, who wondered if this would affect daily traffic, but it will not be the case, because once again, there are largely enough parking spaces for what I can welcome in terms of customers.

I would say that you have taken your precautions with limited hours for the alcohol service. Your offer of alcohol is limited to beer and wine.

So...

I am happy to see you progress.

Do you have everything you need at the moment? Yes.

Do you have everything you need at the moment? In terms of equipment and everything else? No, just in terms of authorizations, does something block you? No, we have carried out our inspections. The roof is starting to age, but they said it still had a few years of life. We will probably replace it in a year or two. But apart from that, everything is positive income. Any resistance? No. The city was pleasant to work with. Yes. That's what I wanted to know. Good luck.

Spend some money.

Thank you.

Thank you Joe. Very good. Thank you. Ron Smith, 1409 South Yonipun. I have some concerns about the change of zoning, PIA. GC. It's written here, mixed use, but you also change it to GC. Is that right?

The recommendation is a mixed use.

Mixed use GC. Is that right?

No, it's just a mixed use that is a... General commerce allows different uses that some may be more I don't know what the word is for this category. Some different uses that the neighborhood might not want. And mixed use diminishes this a bit.

So the uses are not as intense. Well, like a store, a level and maybe other things above, like apartments or something like that. This is the example that could change for GC.

No, it's in the course of zoning changes. In other words, they have abandoned GC.

To clarify, the current presentation is from the institutional public towards GC, but urbanism recommends the Council to amend it to mixed use today for examination by the Council. The Council should propose to amend the country to mixed use. What are we going to do today?

This, because it is a site of three acres. We are not only talking about a space of six meters over six.

For this amendment, however.

I think, I think.

Passing to a mixed use.

Originally, he asked for a wider use, but urbanism has restricted the range to respond to the concerns you raise, those of the neighborhood and the potential use, in addition to the conditional permit via the advisory council to authorize the sale of alcohol, which concerns only M, the contestant.

Car nous n'avons rien entendu quant à l'usage prévu pour cette propriété additionnelle.

La zone sera entièrement classée en usage mixte. Très bien. Elle ne sera pas du commerce général. Nous reclassons tout le terrain, pas seulement le bâtiment.

L'accès se fait par une rue résidentielle et nous allons avoir des livraisons de bière et des semi-remorques ou des livraisons de soda par semi-remorque depuis cette rue. C'est une intersection dangereuse au bas de Cleveland. On a l'impression d'être renversé quand on tourne à droite à cet endroit. Depuis Gordon, c'est presque impossible de traverser pour aller vers le nord. Est-ce qu'il comprend que ceci a une valeur estimée à un million de dollars ? Is he going to pay land taxes on a value of a million dollars?

There was a right of use to reduce it according to its purchase price, like any other buyer of a overvalued property. There was no reason for anyone to contest the evaluation when it is non-profitable. We don't pay taxes. So no one does it. I don't understand why they never contest it, but no one does it. So he will pay taxes on it for at least a year until he can go and contest it. He didn't. He didn't say if he was going to unbuckle or not, at the back.

There are a lot of unbuckles that have grown in this area.

Joe will be happy to answer that.

You have to go to the microphone. You have to go to this one too.

There's a lot of wild vegetation on this side of the A and I'm going to try to clean it all up. I'm not going to explain why for the moment. Well, I guess I could. I plan to use this space to, in the long term, I want to install an outdoor artificial green next to the building so that people can practice potting and chipping outdoors on beautiful days. And then I would like to try to keep the existing canopy, then to clean the entire interior area of the trees and shrubs that have grown spontaneously and potentially. You know, in 3 or 4 years, maybe install a mini-golf or something else that would allow more people and families to come and enjoy this space rather than having just a bunch of trees that are quite unpleasant to look at.

Thank you.

The change in this regulatory zoning. How is this articulated? With the new regulations on the advertising panels to come. Will this open this area to an advertising panel?

Chris, can you come? Well, it's about to be lifted.

Chris Mignon, Urbanism Director. The change in zoning of the site. I don't think it will have an impact due to the proximity of residential areas.

And we plan to present this ordinance to the Commission of Urbanism next week.

But this adjustment of the zoning and the conditional use permit do not have a direct or indirect impact on the ordinance relating to the signs or advertising panels.

In other words, we could, there will be no advertising panels on this property against this bank.

We should examine all the dimensions of the site, but I believe that due to the proximity of residential areas and the fact that Gordon Drive is a national road, it would not be allowed on this property.

Maybe we should make sure that we use the same terminology. When you say advertising sign, do you want to talk about whether Joe will be able to have a sign on the spot for his trade or a third of the brand sign that would like to rent space on Joe's property? Because these are two different problems. Are you worried? Are you wondering if he will have a stage on site? Or do you fear that he lends part of his land to a signage company to install a large advertising panel?

I'm worried about the large electronic panel that has just been installed on Gordon Drive. Are they going to install some in this area?

No, it will not meet the criteria. It's too close to a residential area. It must be S 1000 feet or 100. Yes, you have to be a thousand feet away from a residential area to install a big M. And a house behind the one they installed on Gordon Drive. It's a national road and it's different. It was before they made the order on the signs. That's why we... That's why we have a moratorium, because we want to regain control of all this.

The borrower is not the owner of the property. Are you aware of it?

It happens all the time. Buying it under zoning reserve, it happens all the time here. And we haven't had any news from the owners.

The owners must give them the authorization, but it's not something very rare. It happens all the time. No one buys a non-zoned property without being able to do so during the purchase process. So it's not unusual at all. I remember I saw three ecclesiastical properties in the Morningside neighborhood, a few of them on Prospect Hill. These areas have been changed into residential. Why should this one be different? There is also one in the south of Joy School. It has been converted into a residence. Why would this area benefit from a change in zoning more important than the others?

Well, my way of seeing things is that there is already trade in this neighborhood. You have trade all around this area in particular. There is trade right in front of its property.

So I don't see what it's for. There are at least two and a half kilometers of non-commercial land on the south side of Gordon Drive, in this area.

Let's change that for a mix.

Everything is on the other side of the street.

True.

No, you have chiropractors and accounting offices, don't you? It's a neighborhood zoning, however.

I understand. But what I mean is that there is commercial in the sector. And it's just a transition. I don't think that this mixed use, for what it does, represents a transition. Huge compared to what exists in the house or just across. It's not like installing a factory. It's not like installing a shopping center.

It's a fairly low density project.

It will never be sold again as a church. I don't know what else to do with such a property. Let it deteriorate, because this is what happened before the installation of Lutheran services. This property continued to lose value.

Other churches have changed their confessions, but it's up to them to sell it. And this one wants to sell it to this gentleman. I mean, the council can't control that.

The Lutheran social services were supposed to have more passage when they were there than this guy will have.

It must be admitted that they brought people all the time in the framework of this immigration program that they managed. Thank you for your time.

Thank you.

Thank you for coming.

Excellent question. Anyone else? Bonjour, je m'appelle Walter Campbell. J'ai une menace active chez moi en ce moment.

D'accord, un instant. Nous ne sommes pas sur ce sujet pour le moment. Nous allons finir celui-ci.

D'accord.

Nous vous appellerons à la fin.

Merci.

Merci.

Je propose de modifier la pétition pour un rezonage à usage mixte. Seconde.

Bertrand. Mayford. Boehner. Scott. Barenstein.

The audience is now closed. How do we vote on the regulation?

Electronic.

It is adopted by 5.0. Does anyone oppose the lifting of the statutory rule?

I propose second. Third. We are all for it. I propose to suspend the regulation. Second.

Fort. Shainer. Scott. Barenstein. Bertrand.

Second.

Shainer. Barenstein. Bertrand.

Le 12 est une audience sur une ordonnance de raisonnage d'une propriété au 17 Saint Scott Jackson Street de conservation de quartier à résidentiel urbain. Les pétitionnaires d'Alton Hansen, le PNZ, recommandent l'approbation. Je le propose. L'audience est maintenant ouverte.

Yes, the Urbanism and Zonage Service recommends approval of this point. There were no comments from the public during the meeting.

Does anyone want to be heard? No one, the audience is closed.

So the modifications are required due to the requirements of funding to investigate problems with the property. If more than 50% is destroyed, it can be rebuilt. That's why we're doing it.

That was my understanding. Over the crisis.

We have updated the urban residential area to eliminate the demands for retreat and parking, so that buildings like this one, in case of a signal, can be rezoned to comply with the code. In this case, it's just preventive.

Chaynor. Scott. Barenstein. Bertrand. Rayford. Seconded.

Scott. Barenstein. Bertrand. Rayford.

Chaynor.

The 13th is an audience on a zoning ordinance of a property in 1514, 1512, 1522 Grand Vieux Boulevard of conservation of public and institutional neighborhoods. The petitioners are the Catholic schools, Bishop Ilan. The PNZ recommends the approval. I propose. Seconded. The audience is now open to listen.

Simply that the Zoning Urbanism Service recommended the approval. There were no comments from the public during the meeting.

Adopted by five votes against zero, does anyone oppose the lifting of the statutory rule?

I propose to suspend the regulation.

Scott, Barenstein, Bertrand, Raffa, Moore, Shainer.

I propose a second, third.

Barenstein, Bertrand, Raffa, Shainer, Scott.

The 14th is a resolution. Author.

Hey, very fast, M. Le Maire, very fast. I know there are people who heal here. I just wanted to congratulate you for having removed this pink house.

They also removed the trees, which was very good, I noticed. It was an extra effort, probably a cost in addition. And you did the necessary to make it pleasant. So it was a request that they had formulated.

So congratulations on having finished what you had started on it. Very well done.

Yes, Kaisi just wants to make sure that you did not misbehave with her child and obtained a too low price for that.

We shook it well, but it deserves some congratulations. They did a good job, they cleaned everything.

The 14th is a resolution authorizing the reimbursement to F3 Marina for the repair of the fuel systems and the dragging of the Marina of Sioux City reported on August 10, 2026. I propose this. Second, and thank you for the additional details, thank you very much. I was already here for a police case.

You told me to talk to the captain and he told me that he couldn't find the officers I was looking for, those who had assaulted me.

And one of the officers came to my house.

There is an active threat against my house at the moment because the mother of my child is trying to get away from my baby. Her name is Italie Sanchez. The person who calls me from the Super 8 is Julien Porter. He claims to have a gun at the Super 8. I've been calling her since... She called me on June 18th. I've been calling her since July 16th because I contacted her again to tell her that the gun didn't worry me. She told him a whole bunch of things. J'ai contacté la police. Je suis allé à la police vendredi et ils m'ont dit, eh bien attendez. J'ai attendu 40 minutes et ils m'ont tendu une carte. Cet homme a menacé mon domicile hier disant qu'il allait amener plus de 100 personnes chez moi. J'ai tous les SMS ici, même. Everything that needs to be treated is here. She already had my baby. I just saw her driving in the street towards the hospital. I'm already in it. She had my baby. I have an officer who stops me for no apparent reason. I'm in your city to work. I come from Illinois. I was arrested in 2023. I'm trying to file a recourse, but you don't have that in this city. So I went online and I got it. I'm trying to put my file back in court and everything else. Right now, I need help. In front of this man who threatens my home. So what can I do? Because I called everyone. The police, the mediator, everyone. So I don't know what to do from now on.

Sir, I know that before going any further, Eddy will ask you for your name to register him for the verbal trial, please. Okay.

What is your name, sir?

My name is Walter Campbell.

Thank you. From Illinois.

I come from Chicago, in Illinois. And since I've been here, the police have created files for me for no apparent reason. And I've been the victim in all my cases. Like right now, I'm the victim of an injustice. She called her and told her that she had never had sex with me. They came to my house and I told them that it was a false police report and that I wanted her to be arrested and that I wanted her to be arrested. Nothing. Everything I ask for, nothing. If someone else wants something, they can call and say that I said bring an AK. They will stop me for threats. They have the documents for that right here. Whatever I do in this city, they stop me. If I ask for help, I don't get it. So I don't know what to do. I don't know if it's an adoption or anything else. It's my main concern in this city. Do you have a lawyer? Not yet.

But I hear about... How do you say? Group mail? Yes. I don't have a lawyer. You can't allow me to have a lawyer. I'm trying to find a lawyer who would agree to work pro bono or whatever the case may be.

Ryan, the questions of custody, paternity and everything else are civil affairs. Is that it?

We manage that, generally. In general, there can be a criminal component. Mr. Campbell, I have an officer who arrives here. So I will be there. He will be there. We can offer you individual assistance if you wish.

On what subject? The case.

The case. When will it be? I have an officer coming here right now.

Okay, because I have to be at work this evening at 8 p.m. and I have to rest. So I'm in a hurry because it's very important. But I'm just waiting.

Okay, we'll be there before 8 p.m., that's for sure.

Does anyone else want to be heard? Other citizens? Seeing none, we go to the police chief.

This point has been added to M. Bertrand's request to have an open discussion, I believe, on the state of progress of the process. For the moment, we have not made any final selection. We will receive additional information before making a recommendation to the municipal council.

What is your schedule, Mike? Le calendrier, en raison des réunions du Conseil et de la manière dont elle tombe, sera probablement pour la réunion du 14 septembre. Juste en nous basant sur le calendrier des tests et des informations demandées. Nous ne l'aurons pas d'ici lundi prochain. Et ensuite, nous sommes en pause pendant deux semaines. Quel est le processus si nous appuyons sur le bouton de réinitialisation ? The only reason I'm talking about this subject is that I'm constantly hearing that it's the two finalists. The two finalists? The two finalists. It's not the two finalists. It's the two people who succeeded on the 19th and they were labeled as finalists. If three had passed, we would have had three finalists or four finalists, I suppose. But I think there is a perception according to which it is the two who have reached the level of the last two. Hey, it's a little misleading.

You know, Bertrand, Director of Human Resources, there were four names on the list of public functions. There were four people who passed the exam. So, and two of them retired and now we have two finalists based on the public function exam. So we can either go back to the list of candidates we have. We could reopen the candidacy process. We could continue with an interim and wait.

If we had to re-initialize, what kind of calendar would we need to re-initialize?

What do you mean by re-initialize?

We started at zero.

With the recruitment in the end?

Yes, because we are suspicious now. I was wrong the last time I was in this room about the rules. We have indeed suspended the rules. But, ma'am, you were right. We suspended them in the sense that we are not obliged to keep them on the list. Correct. Benefit of a question. So, as soon as they left, they were removed from the list from the point of view of the public function. There is nothing left to do here, it's over.

They are included.

So we're going back to the past tense. And what I'm saying is that what we did is open the door to a complete reset.

You're not bound by the duration during which a list of skills would have been in force, because they have the derogation. So to open the process, it would be something that the municipal director and I should determine by examining the procedure followed last time. And I even believe that when we hired Chief Mueller, we published the offer for 30 days. Then, according to the origin of the candidates, if they come from another state, they must be given time to travel. They must go through the public service examination process. They must succeed. And once they have the list, there is the process of maintenance that must be carried out. So it will take time.

Apart from the trip, the recruiter who has been paid is hired. He will not bill us again. He simply returns to the office of candidate. He simply does the job again. We will not pay another amount of 40 000, with the exception of some travel fees.

I should consult the contract.

I think it was like that when I arrived. I remember it was like that for someone else. It would be normal. So it's not like that. So if we start over, let's not pay this person again to redo the process, except for a few travel expenses.

I would say that this is normally how it goes, but I want to refer to the contract so as not to say nonsense.

I mean, we all had our time with them, and again, I just want to be, I think by speaking, again, I am only one person. I just want it to be very clear. I don't speak for anyone else. But it was really apparent, I think, that there was a consensus on the fact that one did not suit and that the other did. And the other carries a considerable baggage. And I think that from the point of view of the community, by its own actions, it will be a political nightmare and a nightmare in terms of image, if we choose this person. I think the community is aware of it. I wonder why we put ourselves in such a situation as a council or community, when, I repeat, it is not a finalist. It's just what came out at the end of a process. We can do better. The only reason why I ask the question now is that I want to make sure that the public knows that we can very easily take everything from scratch, start over and show patience. I think this process has been very healthy because it gives an insight to potential candidates who now have a better idea of what we are looking for and what the community is waiting for. And again, without speaking on behalf of others, what has been presented to us does not correspond to the expectations of this community. And I can assure you, given the feedback I have received from the community, I would like to reiterate that this is the only opportunity we have to express ourselves, because we cannot meet at 8 p.m. to discuss it as a council. And I do not want the 14th to be confronted with a vote for or against expedited in no time. So the discussion must take place now, and I think the public wants to see a reset.

Would it be possible to explain to the public the process of the public function, of the application for the certification, through the final selection of the finalists until the nomination, and to identify precisely where the legal authority of the council begins and where it ends?

When do we feel presented? Not from the start. Just, you cut me the grass under the foot, I'm sorry.

In general, the council has not been involved in the interviews since I've been here. We are presented, as was the case today with Amstrec, the airport director. Usually, the staff interviews, recruits, then makes a recommendation to the municipal council. And in this process, we had several juries, several, and I think we were extremely transparent. Nous avons publié l'offre pendant 30 jours en externe. Nous avons eu 19 candidats. Nous avons eu un examen de la fonction publique requis par la loi de l'AIOA, chapitre 400. La dérogation ne diminue en rien les qualifications minimales en aucune façon. La seule chose que permet cette dérogation, c'est d'éviter à la direction d'être liée à la liste d'aptitudes pendant un ou deux ans. La durée de validité de ces listes d'aptitudes dépend de l'intitulé du poste. So in this process, we...

Which, without wanting to interrupt you, means that you must always follow the procedure, right? With all the steps required for a civil servant up to this stage.

But once you have a finalist or two or three, it doesn't matter, the recruitment manager can then make his choice without being limited to three people.

After all candidates have passed the tests of the public service, if they are covered by the public service, they appear on a list of certified candidates by the commission of the public service. If the services benefit from a derogation to chapter 400, the names of those who succeed in the exams of the public service are placed on a list of qualified candidates, which does not need to be certified by the commission. It is transmitted directly to the recruitment manager, who can then interview the candidates. I imposed this requirement on the service that benefits from a question. They must interview and talk to all the candidates on the list at some point. They can't just cancel the job and say no. They must have followed training on the interviews. They must be maintained with everyone and justified by writing the reasons why they do not want to hire the people on the list before reopening the post.

And I think that one of the most striking points that goes along with it, the previous comment from Rick, is the weight of the past. Part of our current work consists of trying to solve these questions and these problems, some of which are raised by the general public,

some of which should have been raised by the recruitment office, and some of which are part of the diligence that Mike will carry out. I know that we all had the opportunity to discuss with Mike and to share our positive and negative comments, as well as our orientations on how he should conduct his reasonable diligence, including with community leaders from other cities who have participated in this process with these candidates. And I think that once this reasonable diligence phase is over in the next few weeks, we will be presented with one of the candidates who, to resume your point, Janel, is on the final list or among the finalists. If that does not suit us, then we will develop other plans. But this simply gives us a margin of maneuver to better understand, prove reasonable diligence and get to a point where Mike can make a recommendation in one way or another.

And correct me if I'm wrong, even if there are ten candidates on the list, let's not expect necessarily to interview ten people either. We will always have selection criteria for the process of interview, right?

It depends on the recruitment manager.

That is to say, it is the recruitment manager.

And I... The recruiter, there were other pre-trial checks that could be carried out once the list of qualified candidates was available and they took place. The recruiter was aware of the baggage, as you say, and I think the community was also aware once the names were revealed. Then, the police is quite different because they are law enforcement, so their pre-trial checks are much more in-depth than what I would suffer or what other people would suffer.

They would not make this verification of intensive antecedents before they are qualified by the public function test.

This involves expenses, a cost. So no, it would be a decision that the municipal director should take. And also because the two finalists you mentioned come from another state. There is a whole other set of criteria that they must meet according to the Iowa Law Enforcement Academy. They must go through all these training evaluations. So it's outside the city's process. That's what the Iowa Law Enforcement Academy does. So I think that part of the work, before even presenting a name to you, is to make sure that they will be recognized as certified peace agents and that their antecedent verification is valid.

So the candidate himself, once again, the reason for this dialogue is that we are all five sitting here, here. So when I participated in the interview process with the recruiter, I asked Mike to sit with us because in my opinion, we never conduct an interview if we are not enough with the recruitment manager. We have deepened the discussion and some things have alarmed me, apart from the baggage of which he spoke very openly, especially the fact that I did not like the idea that he defined himself as a police officer and not as a police chief. And for a community of this size, it triggered alarm signals. He seemed to be too focused on the hierarchy. Not really a field cop, but rather an administrator taking on permanent positions, while there may be a reason why we don't work like that in this community. It was just the kind of alarm signals that kept coming up. Then he deflated a bit when we started talking about community management. So there was a lot of inconsistency. And when I asked him about the number of times he had been a finalist, there was only on the fingers of one hand. For me, we must not find ourselves in a situation where we are content with little and I do not know the experience of others, but it's mine. And if I were in the private sector, I would take it all to zero because none of these guys are what we are looking for.

I can tell you that they didn't ask the questions I asked.

I started asking questions about the blue team, about its use, and I really dug into the moral of what is happening in our local community. And that gave the impression of a guy who spent a lot of interviews, that's what it evoked in me, a guy who continues the interviews in search of a job. Once again, I only have one voice, but I know that we will find ourselves in a situation where we will all be sitting here, we will have to give a hammer and vote. First of all, I can't hear We are evolving in different circles, of course, but the main concern is that we are not hiring locally. Well, guess what? No one applied. Just one person. I was just going to help with that. This is part of the process. People may be unhappy that we are looking outside our service, but frankly, let me tell you that I find it healthy from time to time. I don't think you always have internal candidates ready at that precise moment, where they are at the other end, ready to retire. So I don't know how you overcome that. This is going to cause me trouble with everyone, but the drop program in terms of higher recruitment is the worst thing that can happen, because you have a defined retirement date. So it limits your field. Especially someone who has reached this rank, he has already reached the point where he knows his starting date at retirement. For me, the problem of the local manager is something that we cannot overcome as primary advice. Deuxièmement, je vais mettre beaucoup l'accent au moment de voter sur ce que disent le groupe de citoyens et le syndicat de police car ils interagiront avec ce chef plus que moi et je ne sais pas qui vous recommande. Je n'interagis pas très souvent avec le chef de la police si ce n'est principalement lors de cette réunion. Donc c'est important pour moi. Je ne sais donc pas comment changer le processus et je ne sais pas si attendre améliore les choses. So, I don't want to deal with personal issues. I wasn't elected to deal with personal issues. It's the role of municipal directors. They make recommendations. I can vote yes or no, but I don't want to get involved in the interview process, because I had the opportunity to speak to both of them. I express my concerns and I express what I think that... But I don't want to be in a closed session either. In two years, You can tell me that the next person, man or woman, will not attract us, these troubles. Once again, I'm waiting for Mike's recommendation. That's where I am. And I don't know who it will be. And for me, it's not important to know. So I will then decide how I will vote.

Well, Janelle, I'm really looking forward to your presentation on public service this week.

Yes, it will be very good. But I am happy that you, Mr. Mayor, have raised the internal question. Because we already have excellent employees who would be good candidates, but they examine where they are in their lives, to what extent they are close to retirement, where they live, where they could live, you know, in the future. And this was not the right time for these people to apply. It was their choice. You have to have at least the rank of lieutenant for a certain number of years.

I don't remember it. We can't just take an agent. No, absolutely not.

Absolutely not. But it depends on the stage of your career, on what's going on. You may know a lot of nice agents, but they're not there yet.

Once again, I could make an easy remark and ask why we're not in this position.

But I wouldn't. One thing I did is that I appreciate the process, because having served in the public service, I know that the process has integrity and we must stick to it, because we know that when we don't have this process, we know what we get, that is to say sometimes favoritism, where we choose who we want. This process prevents us from doing that, and therefore 19 people have applied. Two have succeeded. So, you know, four have succeeded. Two have decided to decline. And guess what? We can make an offer and this person can decline. I mean, we've already seen that happen too. So, you know, I'm more in agreement with the mayor and I can't wait to see what we have. I think it's a good and healthy dialogue. We are authorized to share our perspectives and, in the context of your constraints, to work with Mike to understand the direction he is taking and the concerns that have been raised. I think it's an excellent dialogue. I can't wait to learn more and we'll make a decision afterwards.

Okay, thank you. Modification orders.

Gordon, don't take a big inspiration.

Smile.

Are you going up too?

Gordon Farr, city engineer. I was asked to provide some explanations on the modification orders, the way we proceed and why they come. A modification order is obviously a change in the contract up to 10% of the initial amount. Moreover, it must be submitted to the Council for approval before we can give our agreement to the entrepreneur. So up to 10%, I can approve it. This is what we call an administrative procedure. And there are really three different reasons. Gordon can just correct you. And it's not just Gordon. The project manager is not always from engineering. That's right. Sometimes it's just minor details, like the deserts. When the entrepreneur must start according to the contract, there are fixed start dates, a limit date or advance date. Sometimes it is mutually agreed. Yes, we can shift from one day to two, because sometimes they want to start earlier, sometimes later. Three reasons. The first is obvious, mistakes and forgetfulness. We try to avoid these things as much as possible, but it happens. Secondly, the unexpected conditions. The earth is not transparent, we can't see what's underneath. We fall on old foundations, on rails that we didn't know existed, an old tramway. Their withdrawal generates additional costs. Most of the time, however, it is the conditions of the soil.

We encounter difficult soils.

Even by making geotechnical reports, I have done soil studies on some projects. I even did two on a project and the result still did not correspond to what these companies had said. So this kind of thing happens. Abandoned sewage systems. This is another example of old abandoned infrastructures. Some are ours, others are not. That's why we have no record on their subject. The third reason is the good one. It's beneficial for the contributors. We want to add a little more coating here. So we ask for it. The waterway is extended a little further because now that we see what's going on, we're going to do it.

This kind of thing. The additional coating is a major point.

For example, the waterway of Cigar Avenue is currently running And I'm going to tell you, this file will be presented to you because there will be a lot of additional work to be done, because the entrepreneur discovers huge voids under the ground floor that extend beyond his area. It was right up there.

It's a real site up there.

It's a real disaster. So in these situations, we don't just want to ignore the problem. Well, while we're at it, let's ask the entrepreneur to repair if he agrees. Now, of course, if the entrepreneur does not want it, we will not force it. I mean, for these additional things. On the other hand, if it is directly related to the project, then yes. For other cases, we had one the other day, in front of you, where we had a rehabilitation of the gaze that turned out to be oval. It could not be rehabilitated, so we removed it from this contract. This will be an order of modification. and we will add it to the look replacement project, which is a different contract. So there will be a change. There will therefore be two linked to this single look, one for the withdrawal, one for the attribution. Sometimes... I have a question on this subject, however.

If it is a replacement look, is it not necessary to remove the covers and look at each of them?

We do it. We do it absolutely.

And this one, we did not notice that it was oval. I imagine that this would result from errors and omissions where we examined the thing. We opened it and we said, oh, we just measured the distances to the entrances and exits of this Röger-Penger, what we did. We did not notice that it was white.

And it was not.

It was not as obvious as you might think. So that's one. Sometimes we have repairs. urgent that come between the time when the contract has been submitted and we add them to a project. If it is a similar service, we negotiate each of these points with the entrepreneur. Sometimes it's just a job call. He says wow, 10 dollars the linear foot for this or that. He will just add it. If he does it, then he has the right to ask for more or another mobilization. As I said, we negotiate this. We don't blindly accept everything he says. And of course, there are always quantities. At the end of each project, these are the quantities. A quantity adjustment. We ask, you know, x square feet of pavements, e, we get y, which can be higher or lower. So, very often, it happens on almost every project. The only ones who can avoid this are the projects with the interest, a global sum to do everything. And then there is the value engineering. Sometimes the entrepreneur looks at the project and says, hey, hey, I have an idea. It will be better for the city and the contributors if we do that. It can cost more or less expensive, but he wants to modify it. So it's an order of modification. That's pretty much it for the modification orders. The arrival at the engineering contract is another story. It's usually because we change something. We change something to say, hey, you know what? The project starts the design and they say, hey, it won't work. We have to change for this and we have to modify the contract. So we're going to make an arrival and it all goes to the council for approval.

So, Gordon, what you just described is that it modifies a conception after we reviewed the plans and duties, and the changes are made after that.

No, no, it's during the conception phase. It has nothing to do with it. The construction contract has not yet been attributed When does the modification order come into effect? It's not a modification, it's a change for the engineering department. The engineering departments are told, we want to go from this street to this street for this reason. And they look and say, well, you can't because of that. You might have to go further or less far, whatever. So they deserve a modification order. A change. A change. A change to this contract. A contract. His plan.

I just add that the 10% rule corresponds to 10% of the total contract. For example, for a $1 million contract, once your modification orders exceed $100,000, you have to go to the council.

And these are construction contracts. Construction, not purchase contracts. I had projects in the past, in my previous life, where we had a big project and we knew there would be unknowns. So we obtained a pre-approbation from the council to make 25% of administrative modification orders and after that we had to go back to the council for each of them. It was a huge project at 30 million dollars where, as I said, there were a lot of unknowns and we used everything.

A bit like what happened with the refouling operation.

The refouling operation was an emergency however.

It's an emergency, but we had our estimation and we had an avenue. But when they saw all these holes in the sewage, they had to intervene. This one and the next one in Bridgeport, it will be even worse.

This one will be even worse. But we couldn't let that happen.

In this state, it was impossible.

The entrepreneur is on site, we must not repeat, we must clean. Moreover, I'm glad he discovered it. The cleaning area was much wider than when the initial estimate.

But I'm glad they found that.

Oh yes.

Because if they had left it without investigating, we would have had another leak later. You know.

You know, and thank you for presenting this, because it's really me who asked for this, so that our citizens understand why we are making progress. Obviously, we know that in construction, it happens. And as Dilmaire said earlier, my job is not to micro-manage what you do, but just to spot the trends, to try to understand when I see them appear again and again, to know when, why, or even in an emergency situation. I say to myself, well, if it's an emergency and we say it's going to cost such a price, how does it get to the point of reaching more than 10%? And I've seen some where I think one reached about 40%. You know.

For emergencies, emergencies are like that. We don't know. What we don't know...

And that has all its meaning. So yes, you know, I will always look at these trends to see and ask these questions. But I appreciate that you took the time. And I know that we discussed and you gave me good ones, you know. Other questions?

Recycling containers in the city center and modifications to the city center for citizens.

Bon conseil.

Bonjour.

Nous avons bien une présentation. Je vais faire très vite. Je sais que nous sommes en fin de journée. C'est essentiellement pour lancer la discussion.

En fait, nous voulons simplement que le Conseil nous donne une orientation.

Nous travaillons sur le transfert des déchets de construction et démolition au CCC. construction waste and demolition for entrepreneurs.

So, ERA, let's go back a moment to put the context. The reason for this meeting is that we want to talk about the cardboard. We want to talk about the cardboard of the containers in the city center and the strategy to adopt. And we also want to talk about the 28th street and the commercial swing benches and modernize the installation so that it works for citizens. I just wanted to lay the foundations of our approach.

La situation actuelle est que nous ne pouvons pas accepter les bennes basculantes. Leur poids lors du déchargement endommage l'infrastructure. Nous avons constaté qu'en reculant les remorques, si elles ont des roues larges, elles ne rentrent pas. Il n'y a pas de plancher basculant. Nous ne pouvons pas déverser les débris au sol. Ils doivent aller directement dans les remorques. Les remorques sont trop hautes pour les portes de garage actuelles. Il y a donc beaucoup de problèmes avec cette infrastructure. We are working on it and Julie knows that she has been involved in it for a year and a half or two. To discuss how to modernize this installation with a limited budget. The first option was to modify the existing CCC building, that of solid waste. There is another building for recycling. This concerns only solid waste. As I said, it would be necessary to remove the current structure of the garage doors. Il faudrait faire des réparations majeures pour installer deux portes plus grandes afin que les remorques puissent entrer. Elles seraient aussi plus hautes pour permettre aux remorques plus longues de basculer. Et nous devrions installer un système de collecte des lixivias dans le sol pour les camions compacteurs car le DNR l'exige. Daken Asset Point, because the DNR requires it. This is simply part of the transfer station permit. So, to carry out all these works, we expect around $145,000 to modify the current building to a strict minimum, in order to make entrances to trailers. This will involve some work on the unloading area.

We will have to install the evacuation system to satisfy the DNR. We will be able to cut the pillars between the 8-foot doors or, no matter their size, create two large doors and put new lintels through them so that it is stable. Thus, our private entrepreneurs with their trailer will be able to enter, walk backwards and empty. Exactly.

And they will be able to unload on the ground.

This eliminates the weight restriction problem they had with the tilting benches. Now they can unload on the ground. They can load their own trailer. Yes.

They leave once emptied, then we use our machines to pick up and load the trailers for the transfer.

So it's a luck solution.

It's a luck solution. Well, it could work very well for what is on site. We really know that there is a demand for people to be able to unload there. Entrepreneurs want to be able to use it. We just don't know to what extent.

So we're a bit... And we're not going to make people come from outside the city. We won't take care of that. Exactly.

So, we expect around $150,000 for the first option. The second option would be to build this new building. Build a separate building specifically designed to receive construction and demolition materials. The building would include oversized doors, a collection system of elixirs and a dedicated unloading area. It would be located behind the solid waste building, which is right here. So, we simply place it behind this building. So you can always go around the back. Then they will unload. So, the same building, but in a different place. We would thus keep the solid waste building for the residential use of our small users. For this one, we expect about half a million dollars, between 400 and 1,000 dollars.

So, Gilles. How did you get to these cost estimates? We had Gilles.

So, With this option, we are associated with Gilles because we did not have the initial capital. Gilles therefore asked an entrepreneur to go on site to get us a loan. We did the three estimates for the first option in order to have them in hand. If we choose this route, we already have good estimates from the entrepreneurs. For this one, Gilles would put it forward. They submitted us a proposal. They would finance the cost in capital and would then want to conclude an agreement with us to manage this facility for 10 years, where we could negotiate. But that's where we started, with a contract or a proposal of about 10 years. They would then have control over the costs and would receive their income during these 10 years to amortize the building.

At the end of 10 years?

No, for these 10 years. They mainly do this. They collect during the 10 years. They recover. Of course. But yes, we have proposed sample rates.

And what happened?

We therefore sent a small survey to ask some of our largest entrepreneurs if they would use it at, I believe, 70 dollars, 75 dollars or 80 dollars a ton. About 75 dollars a ton. They said no, we will not use it. Of course they said no. I know. And we had this discussion, if it's there with their loved ones, let's hope they will simply use it. But by means of security, we did a little investigation. One of the other elements of the proposal is that we should reach 500, 700 tons of demolition material per contract year, otherwise the city would pay the difference. And I think we set the ton at $ 80, but looking at our figures over there, we did some calculations with Gilles. Nous devrions atteindre ce chiffre et même le dépasser. En ce moment, je pense que nous sommes à 6.

Approchons les 7.

Donc, nous ne pensons pas que ce sera un problème d'atteindre ce montant. Déjà. Exact, mais c'est l'une des stipulations.

Mais quels sont les frais pour décharger là-bas aujourd'hui?

67 dollars d'âne actuellement. So, just a few options that we are examining to try to reinstall this demolition service over there. I like the fact, well, you know this. It was slow, but it was difficult to get all the information, the work from time to time. Do we have the money? Where can we find the money? How are we going to build it?

Well, it's time to make a decision.

It's true.

We're here. Yes, it was when I met them. The most important thing is that they said it would be good if someone finally made a decision.

Well, they are not very quick to provide proposals and contracts. There were a lot of elements. We were ready every time they handed us the documents.

And then something else. Let me understand. A preferred entrepreneur continues to drive to Jackson. What is the price of the unloading there?

The same price, isn't it?

The ton over there.

They assume the cost and risks related to the journey.

You see, there are other options that we can consider. I mean, I like the idea, Mr. Mayor, that if my contract, maybe we leave the rate to the ton as it is or that we divide it by two, let's not go up to 80, let's stay at 73 dollars. But if you want a permit for Remorque-Eubaine, an annual sticker for your truck at about 250... It's going to cost a lot.

Yes, that's very good.

What I mean is that this could be part of the reimbursement process here. I think of a single sticker from January to January where you can run them on a sliding month from purchase. It doesn't matter the format, like a license plate to put on it. I can tell you, of course, they will, but I can tell you right away that they will pay for both. I like 250, I'm an entrepreneur. You put it on your truck and it gives you, it allows you to go to this installation where it allows you to do a unloading, a loading for 250 dollars a year and not have to drive all this way there to Jackson.

Then you always pay the tonnage when you...

Yes, you always pay the tonnage and then you end up with three tires lying around because they don't get dirty anymore.

Here locally.

Yes, here. But I don't think we should go up to 80 dollars.

50 for that is only 5 tons.

No, no, no, no. What I'm saying, what I'm saying is that this is a unique fee. You just pay, you pay for a unique authorization vignette.

An annual commercial vignette, unique, for 250 dollars, which gives you access so that you can unload, you can bring your trailer Ben, you can unload commercially.

Or a citizen, if you want, or a citizen wants, if a citizen wants to bring trailer Ben. If you want to allow anyone to bring a trailer, I think I would call it a trailer permit, because we can't accept trailers for the moment. So if you get a trailer permit, it's the guys who empty the garages. It's the houses we sell. All these guys who use trailers don't need to be professionals. They don't need to be certified professionals. You use a trailer, you want a vignette for 250 per year, you access this new installation, and it helps to refund, and it helps to refund. Once again, you know, I like the usage fees. If you're going to use it, you don't want to pay the additional 250, I think you can avoid the tonnage. You know, let's increase the tonnage of 3 dollars or something like that to compensate, but you're not going to eliminate it.

Zero-zero refund in 10 years.

Of course, that's the case. Oh yes. I think it's going to shock you. Uh, the guys who are going to pay that, right?

I think they're going to come, but I don't think 3 dollars will be enough. I don't think... Additional tonnage. No, I understand.

And what's good is that for the refund over 10 years, let's do some calculations. I think the numbers will surprise us.

I love the idea of building a new hangar. I had submitted this idea to Gilles in the first place so that they advance the capital to do the...

It has never been submitted to vote. We are here to vote. So I think that from now on, we will present the ordinance and we will vote for or against in one way or another because we will have a vote.

So in addition to these modifications, we have begun to examine the problem we are facing in the city center.

It's a stone's throw.

So we said to ourselves that if we were going to invest capital and make improvements, it might be the time to look at this situation, because we went there. I mean, we can get rid of it on Thursday afternoon, and then it's Friday morning, that's what it looks like. It's already full. It's already on the ground. I just sent Richard because there was a jump from what we think is Greece. Someone left a tank of Greece outside. Let's just remove that. You have to remove it.

78,000 per year, that's what it costs us annually, 7,400 and all the rest. So you're talking about making your buildings profitable, guys. You're talking about 500,000 on your buildings to make them profitable. Basically, what we're presenting to you here is that you're going to reduce, you have a small unit at the moment, to the 28th street. We moved all the cardboard to the 28th street, waiting for the new type, the new operator to arrive in town, which he will do.

And at that moment, you recover 74,000. Now, now, apply that to 500,000. For this investment, I mean, there are solutions here that are not going to harm the contributors. These are all redundancies. And once again, you send everyone to the 28th street with the cardboard. There is a small adjustment to be made. People from the outside cannot unload in the center. It cleans the city. It gets rid of this disorder.

So before April of this year, this recovery was in Cunningham over there, in Cunningham. That's where most of it comes from, I think. When they closed, we had an influx of recycling. Before April, it worked very well. It was a bill of $10,000. For the year, we had eight containers. We didn't have any illegal discharges there. You may have seen some of them, but it was far from what we see right now.

And so... Those of us who have garbage bins in their companies will see these people start to put their waste in the night without having to spend money because...

He was on the sidewalk.

On the sidewalk.

Et toutes nos villes jumelles, je leur ai demandé, elles font tout le ramassage en bord de rue. Elles n'ont pas à se lever tous les lundis matin des installations de décharge publique.

Répétez ça, Héra.

Nos villes jumelles n'ont que la collecte en bord de rue. Donc elles n'ont pas d'installations comme celle-ci ou de bennes à ordures de ce genre. Nous voyons donc beaucoup de plaques d'immatriculation venant de l'extérieur de notre zone.

Bien vu. Absolument, nous devons vraiment les déplacer. Alors les déplaceriez-vous vers la 28e ?

Nous pourrions en faire un guichet unique. Si nous faisions ça, cette petite zone est actuellement juste de la terre et c'est là que s'écoule toute l'eau du bâtiment. Nous pourrions goudronner ça pour correspondre à ce qui existe déjà et que nous avons fait il y a trois ans et en faire, en gros, un petit centre de recyclage. On installerait des clôtures sur les côtés pour forcer les gens à circuler dans un seul sens afin de réguler le trafic et de les faire sortir par un seul côté. In addition, this grid would contain everything that could fly away, such as paper or plastic, which could escape from there. Then it would direct traffic to exit through the southern end, simply turning to leave the site. This allows to maintain the fluidity of traffic without them needing to pass in front of the turn.

One of the complaints will be, oh, you're going to have wild deposits. Well, you already have wild deposits at the moment, Maxime. So I prefer it to be close so that they can send their loaders down the hill and pick it up instead of calling professionals. And it would always be free. What we call a solution.

Citizens or anyone else.

Exactly. It's free for our residents to go there to recycle. So basically, they would only have this one area. It would be at the opening hours, either from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. and from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. on Saturday. I know that this will be a problem for some of our residents. You should at least see the hours on Saturday.

You said it. Repeat that.

For now, it would be the hours of work of the CCC, either from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. and then from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. on Saturday. It's the only obstacle I see in this project. We could possibly put one outside the portal and hope that It's going well, but we're going to end up with the same problem.

Do you know how much, I mean, I used the one that was on Cunningham and I don't know if I've seen as many wild deposits as that, but hey.

I talked to her before she closed and she told me that 90% of what ended up in these bins went directly to the unloading. They weren't recyclable materials, they were usable. It was contaminated. She said she found two stoves, heaters, household appliances, things that had nothing to do with it. So that's one of the reasons why she said, I'm stopping. She said it wasn't viable anymore. She said it wasn't even a usable material. So it was a major reason. And we knew we were going to be confronted with it, but we... And we see it that way. We hope for the best while waiting for the worst. The saddest thing is that the few people who do this are going to ruin the lives of those who... Do things properly.

Less people who use them properly. We still have waste recycling bags. You can still have your recycling bag on the side of the street.

Or for your business. Why can't anyone buy a knife for $5 at Menard's and cut these cardboard boxes?

I do it every week. You are absolutely right. I put my cardboard boxes there.

I don't understand why they take the trouble to drive anywhere when they can do it at home. The initial idea behind this also concerned city-center businesses such as lofts. We have a lot of apartments that are built in the city center and closed-off businesses that do not have space for a recycling container and the apartments do not provide it. So they wanted an outlet to have a place to recycle and before the recovery facility closed, we had an excellent rate of participation. I mean, we had clean and efficient recycling.

Do you think we should remove everything and...

I'm waiting for your directives on this subject. Let people reach this point and then... Are they doing it with all the containers?

Otherwise you will end up with a big pile of two of them.

It's open to discussion. I don't know if we... I'm afraid that even if we remove the biggest and leave the smallest... Are they simply starting to do it on the smallest? Are they doing it on the smallest right now? We have seen some situations where they put it aside. It has nothing to do with... With what we have at Tyson.

Because you have to tear off the bandage. And you win 74,000 euros.

The first, whatever happens, if we remove them, let's choose Memo. If we have to remove them, I would like to use part of this budget for the ground. For the asphalt base, so that we don't just have mud and that it doesn't sink into the mud. Otherwise, we can't empty them.

I'm sure Knife River Barclay can set up a base fairly quickly.

I received a Barclay bid. I'm waiting for two other bids.

Just like Regan, you know, you're here. The city center has a lot of them. What do you see, what do you think about some of the others? Not the one I like.

I really think they... Yes, they're all part of the same group.

Hello, Regan and Cody, partners of Centreville. R.A. was right before the biggest one arrived at Tyson Center. The smallest ones at Centreville worked very well. I'm a little worried about the enclave companies. The main objective, by setting up some of them, was to make sure that the owners were aware, because in the past, we couldn't have these large recycling containers in Centreville. A part of it was a campaign to raise awareness about our large properties, to tell them that they could now have their benches in place, and I think many bought one for them. And so it worked well. The housing units, they have theirs. So they took what they could. So the ones we saw being used, before all this happened, worked very well. They were well used. We did it once a month, it increased a little. We did it twice a month, but they were still very well maintained. There is a little concern about the idea that the big one disappears, because we have changed their habits. Now that we have put this big container, we have broken the habits and people are going to look for something. So I think that if you move them, what seems necessary to me, you really have to clarify where they should go and make sure that they remain accessible and easy to use. I don't know about the other communities, but it's difficult when you come from the highway and you see this big container of blue recycling. You are a kind of lighthouse for recycling. So, once again, it requires a little pedagogy, a reflection on what we are going to do on this subject. I would really like those from the city center to stay, but I know that we are facing an influx at the moment. If that happens, if they can come back, they are used for the good reasons in the city center, originally. So I am in large part. Yes, in large part. So I was very satisfied. Getting rid of it completely could pose a problem.

Well, it is quite obvious that this influx that we are receiving comes from the closure of the recovery center. I mean, that's where it all started. I can receive emails immediately to say... And the good thing is that people recycle.

I mean, there is also this aspect there. We just have to make sure we have the right balance on how and where.

But stop abruptly and remove everything.

Good remark.

And the reason why we went to the largest island is that it was full in the space of Sao Nui and Garnier. Very good. 24 hours, the smallest, and that's where we started to have problems. We saw bigger by thinking that it would be at least contained and then it continued to increase.

So Mike, do we do that in two different votes or do we regroup everything?

We're talking about two distinct problems, aren't we? So we need directives. Do we have to renew the old building or ask Gilles to build a new one? Well, I would like to see an Excel table. Talk about these charging costs. I want to know what we're talking about.

You can get numbers and send them. Absolutely. More than what we have. We can dig a little more into the subject.

It's not that complicated. Just put it in a table, let's spread it and add the box in the order of the day.

I have to make a proposal, but in this table, we must include the way in which Gilles plans to pay back over this period of 10 years. And I don't think we can decide without understanding what price structure is waiting for us. So I would like to see that.

So simulate different charging rates with you and we'll see what we can offer. We will add the sticker, see if we can compensate a little.

With or without, we will do both. Give us options. How many tons are you projecting?

For now, we were at... For the tonnage. For the proposal, we should aim for 5,700 tons. 5,700. Otherwise, 70 dollars. If we don't reach this goal, we will have to pay the difference at the end.

The guarantee of Gilles.

The guarantee they demand.

We should cover the margin for everything that is missing.

But for now, we plan to reach... On a amount of 450. 750. We do have a 10-0-0 tonne limit right now, but that could be... If we ever think that we should just...

It's just a letter to the Ministry of Natural Resources to say that I know that GIL is a charity organization, but if you receive 100,000 per year for 10 years on the difference between... No, I think we need to stop that.

I think we need to stop the payments once the total is reached. You see what I mean? I mean, I'll make sure he's paid until the building is refunded, right? That's what we don't have. Once the building is paid. So if we refund it in five or four years with the combined or even there, it's settled. It stops there. We stop paying them.

No, he's going to see it for ten years.

No, he says no. We talked about that.

I'm really sorry. If you want to talk, you have to come to the microphone.

That's what I'm saying. I'm here to talk about what we're supposed to do and no one has numbers for us.

During a conversation just before you, when someone says that it's a 10-year contract and that he wants 70 bucks, for me it's 70, it's a 10-year agreement.

So Justin Franks, Guy Lohling, what did we present? I don't know who saw it. I don't know who you sent it to, Hera, but it's totally negotiable. We sent a first draft. It's a starting point and it's something we would discuss with the council about what you like, what you don't like, where we want to go, where we don't want to go, where we don't want to go. It's totally negotiable. It was fair. Here are a few numbers. Here's what we present. Here's what the building will cost based on what we built in Omaha. And then we move on from there. Nothing is engraved in the map. It's just a starting point to start the discussion. For me personally, the fastest, easiest and simplest solution is to modernize. What you currently have will cost 150,000 dollars in the city and you will be able to start shifting the trailers in the spring. I would suggest, if you can find the money, to do it this winter. It's the quietest period. It's the easiest way to close this building. You do it, you are operational and then we can talk about investment in the future. However, if you wanted to talk about investments now, we have just advanced that we know that it will cost about half a million dollars. And here is our starting point. Where do you have to be? And we will have this discussion. Why don't we ask Mike and Teresa to work with the EA to establish figures with different business plans and proposals so that we can make a more clear evaluation? Absolutely. I just think that if you choose the option at 150,000 dollars, and that the city has the money, you could do it off-season in the fall and during the winter. You could modernize its doors, install the Elixivia collection system and you would be operational for the delivery in the spring.

Who must carry out these works? Gilles or our entrepreneur?

How?

Do you want to do these works or that it is our entrepreneur?

It would be an entrepreneur with the city. The half million was the proposal of... No, no, I didn't do that.

I'm just talking about modernization.

So modernization would be the fastest and simplest?

I would like to carry out modernization now.

This would be the fastest and simplest solution. Well, even if you modernize and build another building later, the money from the modernization is not lost. No, exactly. It is an infrastructure of the city that you already own and with the other building. It is an infrastructure that, if we build it, you will own it at the end of the contract, whether it is refunded in 6, 7 or 10 years, whatever, right? This step. The city then owns this new building, right? But the fastest and simplest solution is the one at 150,000 euros. modernize the building, install the collection system of Elixivia. Everyone says the same thing, you are operational.

Thank you. Thank you very much. Well Eric, I just wanted to ask you, while we are considering removing these recycling bags, is it possible that we all want to remove that of Tyson, of course? But for the others, I would ask that we proceed gradually to see what would happen, because some are filling up. But I don't know if we would have the same situation and if we notice that we can move them.

Absolutely. Is that something we can do? Can we start by removing this one? See if there are more problems with the smaller ones?

If so, then we decide if we put a sign after removing this one to say that everything must be discharged.

And we have to educate people. I mean, we can just do it with the help of the council from now on.

Move the big ones. Oh, we wouldn't need to move the big ones. We should move Tyson's one in another way, with the development of the Walgreens site. So it makes sense to do it. Now I have a question, Nair and I talked about it earlier, and Captain Bertrand, I don't know if you have any ideas. We have flock cameras that serve several purposes. They are everywhere in the city. I suppose they are placed where the waste bins are. Why are we not able to make our laws apply to those who dump their waste in these places? We have five flexible cameras that can be moved.

We could certainly do it.

You see, it seems to me that this must be part of the solution.

You will probably see data that Tracy Makowski compiled after evaluating the infrastructure of the city's cameras. If you haven't seen them yet, it's done. Or in progress. So you can see that we have about 600 cameras in the city. You can see where we are all. We will have a $100,000 subsidy for the infrastructure of the cameras to be presented to you next week.

How many additional cameras will this allow or is it only for the infrastructure?

No, it's a mix of both. These are not only cameras, but it all depends on what you choose. So there is no simple answer. We will present it to you next week. Thank you. Thank you.

Very good.

I will withdraw.

Tyson, that's for sure.

I'll move tomorrow.

I'm curious. Is there a point of view? From A to B? Reflections?

I have reflections. Please share. Yes, Sam.

I didn't want to talk about it. I say before you start, Sam. We've just found a compromise. We're only removing the biggest one. I love that.

It was my suggestion, the cameras, because I want to know what's really going on.

Well, someone has already witnessed what's going on. They saw registration plates on the site of El Point, Soutiu, all these cars from the Mar, all these plates from different counties who come to dump their waste here. But to find these people and get their money back? And I've already asked for a camera to be installed.

I am therefore in favour of the withdrawal of those who pose a problem. But I agree with Regan concerning the city centre. It was so nice to have some small businesses around who use them. I really want to keep them. That's it. The point of view.

And I just wanted to say that otherwise, if we delete them, I would like to see another environmental project that the city would be ready to support because I would be devastated to see. I think people will have a hard time getting to the CCC. It requires a lot more effort and I think everything will end up in the trash, which is really a shame.

I think more people could have recycling bags at home. I don't think they understand that they can have as much as they want for free. Up to six. We can have up to six.

Install this platform.

You should not want more.

I think it is important for 45,000 dollars to move this platform to unload, to install the closure and to move all this so that people have a place to go.

With cameras and everything prepared. You should maybe call one of your friends.

Well, they will have Necker River or Barclay in place tomorrow, but I don't know how to do that when it costs 45,000 dollars because

I think there is a camera on the Agile building that gives on the area that we have planned for recycling. So we would have a camera to monitor that.

I would say that we are taking another step in the right direction.

Thank you. Good discussion. If the City Council does not want to hear that, but if you can get funds quickly for the platform, continue as long as you register on the order of the day of one of our lunch meetings with a tip. I think it's important for you. We follow our normal procedure for three or four months before the asphalt is laid. They have a meeting on Thursday.

Thursday, you first need to plant.

In any case, I just say that the earlier will be the best because otherwise it will end up in the

Benz in the city, isn't it? And there is nothing more annoying for people like us who pay 600 dollars per month for junk.

I just wanted for the transparency of the vote, because if it ever happens, I would be out of the state.

I mean, we need specifications. We don't need to adopt plans for a project of this size.

No, but it's just in case. It's below the threshold. You will only need 24 hours to register for a joint meeting.

So, to get back to Julie's point, if we are not available, we have to participate by phone. You have to be in the state because you said you were out of the state.

No, it is not necessary to be in the state.

No, no, he can't just come. Yes, okay.

Before, you had to be sick.

Okay.

And make him use the phone.

But act quickly, because I see that once launched, it will cause problems. In the city, I can tell you. I really think you should also use social networks. Don't broadcast the effect if you don't know. We're heading towards the 28th century. You know, that's why we have it. Very well, Rick, what do you have for us? What do I have? I was really happy with this last discussion. I'm not going to lie to you. Quickly. Meet the county. We talked about it. Meet the county and the Burlington Northern Railroad for this camp of homeless people behind bomb guards. Us, the sheriff and me and the guys from the railway and everything, we went around about 60 days ago and we determined that this is really where many of our, let's say, usual homeless people are. It's a pretty violent area.

So to clean that up, you really have to go to the foot of the hill.

Clean all this up.

Finish with this. Arrange a small factory. The way is to adhere to the idea. They agree. I worked with the county. I know, I talked to Mark Nelson. I know that you and Craig met them this week. They accepted. We had to force a little hand. They accepted. I'm not going to, I'm not going to reveal anything else for the moment. They will pay for that. I would have told them that we had terracotta workers who had cast an eye.

It will probably cost between 100 and 200 milliliters to put it on the side of the hill, make a small gravel road. And the county said they weren't aware. Whatever. Let's clean it up so we can take it.

So I suggest doing it this fall when there will be no more leaves. And then we will be able to go through the process of the 4th amendment to get them out of there.

And it will be for this fall. So I think we have a well-threaded plan.

I am enthusiastic about the idea that the county will

They will help us with the display and all that, because the county doesn't...

So then I, and then they too, I, we had it when we met. I shook him a little on the neck, and as on their position, saying that they want the itinerary, but that they don't want to pay anything.

And I think we can get a participation of 25 or 30% of their part, if we propose a correct itinerary. It's new, I think they are ready to contribute to heights of 25 or 30. Yes, they don't want it, they don't want anything, but I think they would accept a share of 70-30 or something like that, so...

It's the time of the day.

It's to insert a small bus,

So the good news is that you don't have to make an itinerary.

So the county is starting to communicate with us and I think we have a positive influence on them regarding certain things. There are other points that I think I can put on the table, with the libraries and all the rest, where the county must participate and we will end up there. Uh, we will receive the HARD agents, is that right? They will give us a point on the 233 people they identified that they wanted to live in the street. So I'm looking forward to that with impatience. I would like to see, uh, our two guys from S.O.A.K.E. and S.O.A.T. Tyson. Oakview. Let's go back to these guys. I have things I want to see with them. We haven't talked to them since the hockey games and all that. Let's offer them a tour of honor and then we can give them a feedback on other points that have been discussed. I would like to have them come as soon as possible. Mr. Mayor, you know, you go this way. It's my corner too. Are the weeds on Floyd absolutely, absolutely shameful? The weeds on Floyd Boulevard look like a third world country when you drive that way. I don't know what to do, but it's really bad. So I just wanted to point out the weeds on Floyd Boulevard. And another nice thing is that the UTVs are in circulation. I saw the first two the other day, they were walking around quietly. Ryan, we didn't have a big problem increase, did we? The world of the apocalypse didn't take place. We didn't have people running around in cemeteries and well, they were probably dragging their second bin with their UTVs. So I think, I think it's okay. So it was nice. I also had a very good discussion with the Urbanism Commission. Well, she's not here, she's still here. She's still here. So they're going to start doing a revision of the orders, which is great. They're going to start examining certain things and I asked them to start introducing us to three or four that no longer have a place to be and to start moving from their side. Certain discussions take place in my neighborhood, which is Gilly Park. We're doing a lot of things. There's a lot of remodeling in this area. They want to build nice garages, but the size of the land, some of theirs, The moral of the story is that you can't have a nice garage unless you have a big house, I suppose. So we have orders on which they agree that they are a bit obsolete and they can start correcting. I am therefore very enthusiastic about the idea that the Urbanism Commission is beginning to get involved, not only on the governance aspect, but maybe also on the economic aspect. Which is pretty cool. I'm really excited about this subject. And then Teresa is gone. But I know that she is working on a good presentation concerning the work funds that we have to recharge. Other than that, I think that was pretty much it for today. Let's have an excellent week. I took my daughter to university yesterday, so I think that mom calmed down a bit. Let's go for a walk.

Very quickly, as Rick mentioned, Mike and I will have a meeting with Mark Nelson later this week to try to put in place a better program and a better dialogue between the city and the county. If there are any problems that you would like us to raise with Mark, do not hesitate to share them with Mike or me before the meeting and we will be happy to discuss them. Then two other quick points. I think that next Monday we will have a presentation on rainwater, the tax on rainwater.

At the same time, we can obtain a complete explanation of all the costs associated with the public service bill or water.

In addition to the dialogue on the increase of 300% of the tax on rainwater, many people say, well, I'm billed $1 for this and $1 for that. There is a certain confusion. So can this also be part of the dialogue?

And the last remark or question I have about the restaurant on 7th rue, which seems to be still closed.

They are only open on weekends.

Sometimes on Saturdays and Sundays. The reason why I ask the question is that I wonder if they could be relocated in the entertainment district once. They have just spent several years maintaining it in the historic building.

At this location.

Okay, I'm going to laugh at that. Thank you, that's it. Yes, absolutely. I'm just going back to what Rick said. I had the opportunity to see a few UTVs. In fact, one of the citizens was very happy and it was pretty nice to see him circulating in the city center. So very enthusiastic about it. And that was also my question, Captain. Have we seen anything or one of these things? And I'm very happy to hear that. I just want to... I know that the Mount Zion Church Refuge must meet this week, I believe. And I think we've all been invited to... This week or next week? Maybe next week. I think it's maybe the 24th, I think. Maybe it's next week. So, I know they are enthusiastic about this partnership and there may be opportunities to help at the end of this week.

I don't have anything on resources.

Baron Stein.

Hello.

Bertrand. Bertrand. Hi Fog. Jaya.

Bonjour.