City Council - Regular Meeting

Yeah, it's like it's like a chain. Bernstein here. Bertrand Rayford here. Shaner here. Scott here. I'll make a motionus to go into closed session of the City Council. Discs the purchaselo or sale of particular real estate for premature discsure. Could be reasonably expected to increase the price the city would have to pay of that property or reduce theprice for that. Second, thehi city attorney has approved a closed session for ts item. Second, Bertrand Rayford, I, Shaner I Scott Bernstein I Jensen was second on that.

Open session second. Rayford. Shaner I, Scott I Bernstein, I Bertrand. I make a motion to go into closed session. Return to open session. Adjourn the closed second that we go back into open session. Rayford I Shaner I Scott I Bernstein I Bertrand call the roll, please. Shaner here. Scott I Bernstein here. Bertrand here. Rayford here. Please stand for a moment of silent prayer followed by the Pledge of Allegiance. Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Denise Gutierrez. We have a proclamation that reads, whereas the strength of our nation, along with its states and cities, flows from the promise of individual equality, access to decent, safe and affordable housing and a part of the American Dream. And whereas April 26th marks the 58th anniversary of the passage of title eight of the Civil Rights Act of 1968, as amended, better known as the Fair Housing Act, which declares that discrimination in the sale, rental and financing of housing based on race, color, religion, sex, national origin, familial status or disability is

unlawful. And whereas shelter is a basic human need and the quality of life is significantly diminished when individuals face discrimination based on irrelevant factors, it is essential that America, the state of Iowa and the City of Sioux City be rededicated to the policy of ensuring that housing is available to all individuals on the basis of equality and fairness. Now therefore, I, Robert Scott, mayor of the City of Sioux City, Iowa, on behalf of the City Council, do hereby proclaim April 26th as Fair Housing Month in Sioux City, Iowa, and urge all citizens to support and endorse the daily practice and policy of fair housing and reaffirm their commitment to fair housing opportunities for all. I'd like to present this to you and say a few words if you'd like. Go ahead. All right. Sure. On behalf of the Northwest Iowa Board of Realtors, myself, Chris, the president, Denise Gutierrez, our executive officer, and Eric Cook, our vice president, want to thank mayor Bob Scott for for endorsing the proclamation. We believe fair housing is important and critical to our communities as a whole, and wanted to make a point. Honor Fair Housing Month and the Civil Rights Act of 1968, and continue on with that mission by reaffirming that in our community, we support fair housing. Thank you. Next, we'll go to interviews, the Library Board of Trustees. James Hodgins, first come up and tell us a little bit about yourself and why you want to serve. Hi, I'm James Hodgins. Hi, James.

Hi. How are you guys? Pretty good. Oh, I kind of want to serve because I really care about the library. I like it a lot. And, you know, there's been some problems with it recently coming up. You know, that's it. All right. Questions. Just what's your background with regard to is it use of libraries. Have you. Oh, I worked there for six years or so. The Sioux City Library. Yeah. The Sioux City Public Library. Great. Thank you. So what are the problems that have come up? Oh, no. Problems really. Just that the budget seems to be mismanaged to some degree. Do you feel like you've got some budget management, budget management experience? Yeah, I I'm on the board of trustees at my church and we kind of deal with the same thing all the time, you know, deciding what things need spending and vote on all that. Thanks for your interest. All right. Thank you. Next is Shannon. Shannon, come up. Tell us a little bit about yourself and why you want to serve. The podium is fine. Either one either one works. I'm Shannon Jorstad. I am interested in the Board of Trustees position. I've been in the friends of the library board for six years. I've learned a lot through that time, and I'm interested into going the next step into it. I'm interested in the best needs of the community. What best helps Sioux City get into the library? Use the library and what the library provides for the city. I've grown up using the Sioux City Library. I've taken my children there, been to the activities and events, and I think it's a great organization and I would like to pursue that. Shannon and I had some very, I thought, very healthy conversations

during the budget cycle. And I thought she provided a really strong perspective, as did Linda, when she approaches. And I think you bring a relatively unique perspective and a broad perspective. Thank you. Thanks, Shannon. Thank you, thank you. Linda. Santi. Hi, everybody. Hi, Linda. Linda. Santi, I should I answer the the question why I want to yes, please. You can use that in your hole opener. Okay. Thank you. So I care about libraries a good deal. I care about this library. I grew up with. This library was my. I'm showing my age. Smithville was my library branch. I have a passion for libraries, I. I think that as we get further into the 21st century, the things that libraries can do for a community, for economic development, workforce development, social services, as well as literacy and community or organizing and community efforts is incredibly important. I have worked with a library system in New Orleans. I was there in oh five when the levees broke, and I was working for the New Orleans Public Library system at the time, so I've been part of a rebuilding of a library system. We had 13 branches, and all but three were completely destroyed. So I've worked with National Library folk from the Ala who came in, and the first convention in New Orleans after the federal flood of oh five was librarians. And so I've gotten even a national

perspective on libraries. And when we rebuilt in New Orleans, it was with a real look toward the future and a way in which services could be improved and improved with a look toward the finances. And so I want to bring those skills and talents to the to the Sioux City Public Library, where I am probably at a whole lot meetings, checking out books. I'm at that library a lot. As I mentioned, as I mentioned with Shannon, I had a chance to talk to Linda regularly during the two three week period of the budget cycle and valued her perspective and and to James as well. This is a unique situation where we have three really good candidates for one spot now. But as I was mentioning to Linda earlier, I know there's another spot that becomes available later during the cycle so well, and that's it's shows that people do care about the library. And it shows that the conversation that you all opened for, you know, the community to, to think about was really important and helpful. And it's brought forth strong people to move forward. I would say I've had also, I've had experience with picking being part of teams that have chosen various departments and divisions, particularly in New Orleans, new police chief, a new park and rec youth commission, and the mayor's tend to and for those instances, put together a task force is to be part of a selection process, and so I. I feel this is a with with no slight to to Helen. It just represents a changing of

the guard and an opportunity to really bring some, some fresh ideas to the library system. And because I have experience in that, I, I am looking, I would very much look forward to being part of that process. Also, I'm reminded when we had our candidate town Hall, one of your questions was, so I know you have a love for the library and other departments. So. So thank you for stepping up to that. And I'll just to finish. Thank you, Council Member Rayford, one of my questions at the League of Women Voters Town Hall was, can you how do you use the art center, the museum and the library? And can you name the directors of, of, of those three city divisions? So yes, thanks for remembering. Absolutely. All right. Thanks, Linda. Thank you. Thank you. We'll go on to the consent agenda items through. You have one more interview. Oh I'm sorry, Chad Smith. Sorry. I want to get out of here today. Chad. Sorry. That's right. You don't need to. Other than for the record, you don't need to introduce yourself. I'm Chad Smith and I am candidate for the parking and skywalk Board of Trustees. Sir, could you move that mic up a little bit? You're just taller than the rest of us. Sorry. Thank you. Nope, not a problem. Reason I am applying for this position was I was asked by some members of the community to be on the board, because obviously our company manages the convention center, so we're directly connected to the skywalk and to the parking ramps around the convention center. So we have an interest in in the parking systems and the skywalk, not just for for use as a manager in the city of one of your facilities, but also as someone who goes, goes downtown to attend events, eat at restaurants, and enjoy the

amenities of our community well. And you can experience what they experience, right? Very good questions. Oh all right. Thanks. Thank you. Thanks, Chad. Thanks for adding that to your plate. Now I will go to the consent agenda, which is items three through 17. I constitute a consent agenda. Items passed unanimously unless a separate roll call, votes requested by a council member. Anyone wishing to speak on the agenda item may come to the podium at the time the item is being discussed. If you want to speak on an item not under the agenda, please come up under citizen concerns. I'll move that. I will second that, but as I do so, mayor, can I ask? I want item 11 A and then I need to abstain on a couple of items in 14 and 16. Should I ask that those be pulled from the consent agenda or just note those at the time that mayor reads those items? You may note that at the time the mayor. Okay, but can I ask that 11 A comes out of the consent agenda. I'd like to have it pulled for a separate roll for separate discussion. Yep. We can do that when we get. Okay. I on you you go ahead. Yeah, I already second it. I just had a question on one of the on item number three. The minutes. I got a comment too. Yep. Okay. Reading of the March 18th 23rd and 30 30th City Council minutes. We need to amend it first for item six and seven it says Sue Land Explorer, it should say explore Sue land. I'll move that. I'll second that amendment. On the amendment. Scott Bernstein I Bertrand a Raiford, a Shaner a. I have one other noted correction or amendment on

pages 16 and 17. It notes me as exiting the meeting at 1226 and returning at 1228. Then about a couple of items later, it has me exiting at 1225 and returning at 1227. I do remember leaving, but I couldn't have left it both times and returned it both times. Which. Which set of minutes is that? That's got to be the budget minutes, correct? 18 March 18th. So either delete the 1225 returning at 1227, which is the second. That's why it caught me because as I was reading through them, I know it had me exiting at 1226, returning at 1228. Then it had me exiting at 1225 and returning at 1227. And I don't think I could have been in two places at once. Okay. So as far as I'm concerned, you can delete either one. Okay, so I'll move that amendment as well. Second. Okay. Berenstein I Bertrand a Rayford a Shaner I Scott, I thank you. Yeah, I had one on, I think it's item 26 where that the police capital equipment on there on the vote motion by Scott second by Shaner to increase that fortune. But then it says Bernstein Bertrand Rayford Shaner Scott voting I and but then it says Rayford voting nay. Okay. Twice sometimes. But. Need a second second. Bertrand a Rayford a Shaner I Scott Berenstein a for is a motion appointing Meredith Layman to the Human Rights Commission. Five is a resolution scheduling and hearing on the adoption of the annual budget and the Capital Improvement Program six is a

resolution temporarily closing sections of 24th Street, Grandview Boulevard, McDonald Street and Summit Street on July 4th and fifth for Saturday in the Park Festival. Seven or. Actions relating to grants a. As a resolution approving an interlocal agreement with Woodbury County for submission of an application for the Byrne Justice Assistance Grant program funds. So is there anybody here? Are you on this item? So it's $60,488. Have you already designated the use of those funds? Ryan Bertrand, captain, Sioux City PD they are not hard designated, but tentatively, yes. Thanks. B as a resolution approving a Transportation Alternatives Program agreement with Simcoe MPO for the Viaduct connector trail, phase two C is a resolution authorizing submission of a grant application to the EDA Disaster Supplemental Grant program for the development of an innovation center. I have a question on that that I should have asked. Do we just we put a lot of money out for this building, and we have spent a lot of money maintaining this building, and we're going to spend a lot of money maintaining this building for a while. Do we get our money back? Renee Billings, economic development Manager As part of the project, we have an L o U with Innovate Siouxland that provides the building as part of the project. If they were to ever sell it in the future, we would get our money back at that time. You're sure that's in the agreement? Well, yeah, we have an Lu that's we don't have a set agreement with them yet. But when it comes to development, yes, I think that's terribly important. Okay. Renee, I don't necessarily think you need to do it today because I know we're trying to

move through the consent agenda, but I think this is an important enough project. Into the mayor's point. There are some technical pieces to the acquisition and how we're seeking funding, both with regard to this grant and also, I think private acquisition or excuse me, private funding, as you and I have talked about as members of the board, I think maybe in the if you want to work with Mike and get this on the agenda for a presentation, maybe in the next couple of weeks, I think would be helpful for the Council and the public to better understand the total scope of the project. Thank you. Thanks. Actions relating to civil penalties and suspensions. A as a resolution, scheduling a hearing on a proposed civil penalty against Love's Travel stop number 479 for violation of the Iowa Cigarette Laws. B as a resolution scheduling a hearing on a proposed civil penalty in 30 day suspension for sky high smoke shop and vape cigarette permit for violation of the Iowa cigarette laws. Nine R actions adopting construction documents A as a resolution, adopting plans and specs for the taxiway C and associated areas. Rehabilitation project at the airport B as a resolution adopting plans and specs for the Lorain Avenue resurfacing project. C as a resolution adopting plans and specs for the Sidewalk ramp project. Tanner. Actions relating to agreements and contracts. A as a resolution, approving order form and end user license agreement with Ninja one. B as a resolution approving a contract to a G construction for the annual Sidewalk Program project. So in approving ten B or excuse me, ten. I'm sorry. Go ahead. I'm sorry. I have another question. Sorry. Resolution approving a contract to KP construction for the manhole replacement project. Is that the one you wanted? No, I was looking at a different item.

It'll come up. Thank you. Okay. D is resolution approving a contract to Sioux City Engineering for the Big Sioux River erosion repair project? E is a resolution approving a contract to knife River Midwest for the Lions Park investment area. Sidewalk improvement. All of those projects, but one came in under budget. This is why we need to bid projects because nobody's got work out there. I mean, for knife River to bid a sidewalk project tells you there's no work out there. And. F is a resolution approving a professional services agreement with Doc Access for an accessible document tool. G is a resolution approving a service provider agreement with Sir Lancelot for the street paving, pavement paving and striping project. This is another one that we go. We go five years and we don't bid. Now we bid it and it's half price, basically, from what it's been. Right. Who's got this one? Maybe. Maybe a reason we don't give them extension after extension after extension. Patrick Simmons field services manager Yeah, I think after evaluation that's what we looked at. And that's why we did put it out for bid. And that's the the intent moving forward. But that was like 5 or 6 years worth. The other guys had it before. Yeah. Yeah. That was my same comment. Thanks, mayor. You look at some of these projects and you look at a project from one year to the next and whether they're rebid or not. And I had the same comment. That's. Thank you. Very good. H is a resolution approving amendment number two to the Consulting Services agreement with McClure engineering for the Skywalk Assessment Study project. I as a resolution approving. Number two, amendment number two to the Consulting Services

Agreement with the Eocene Environmental Group for the Pulaski Drainage Improvement Project. J is a resolution approving a security agreement, assignment of Development Agreement between developer, owner and Premier Bank National Association. 622 for Street K is a resolution approving a Post-construction stormwater Management Plan maintenance agreement easement with Apache View Townhomes for a detention basin accepting a permanent easement of 2606 Apache Court L is a resolution approving a Post-construction stormwater management plan, maintenance agreement and easement with Westland Property Management Development for Detention Pond and accepting a permanent easement at 2513 Heinrich Court M is a resolution approving a Post-construction stormwater management plan, maintenance agreement and easement with Quality Realty for a detention basin accepting a permanent easement. 2700 Boulevard of Champions Levin mayor Nicole, can you check I. In looking at the agreement, it looks as if it's to be signed by the treasurer. Is that treasurer authorized to sign an agreement? I'd ask if she confirmed that. A lot of times we get an email from the entity indicating that that's an authorized signature for the agreement. Who's the treasurer? I know all these guys who's environmental engineering or environmental services? Yeah, they usually just have somebody from their board sign it. We have had treasurers in the past sign it. Do we need to get a resolution from their board that authorizes who's signing that document? I would just hate to. We have not in the past. He's the guy that handles all the stuff for him, I can tell you that. Maybe trying to find it, I apologize. Just wonder if we

have a resolution, even if it's a past resolution that authorizes the treasurer to sign from their board. I think I'd take the agreement. These things have been built for 25 years, and you're now just getting a. But for that, the quality. No. Well, so Sioux City Tarp one is next to that and they're sharing a drainage ditch type situation. So that's why we're having them sign that. And then we'll have one for the Sioux City Tarp coming as well. We're just waiting on one document. Just saying these guys didn't have to sign an agreement because you probably not. So we're trying to go back and get a lot of those from like the last five years. But that's why this one's on there is because since that new building went in next to it, they have a shared detention system. It looks like it's Tim Bauer. Maybe. Nicole, if you could just check with your team and and make sure that it's authorized for there's a resolution authorizing him to sign on their behalf. If you could reach out and ask that to us, that'd be great. Thank you. If you want just like an email from if you could just confirm it and confirm with Nicole, that's fine. If all of a sudden we found out that there's not a resolution authorizing him to sign that document as treasurer, then we need to have it signed differently. Sure. And the officers are listed on the Secretary of State's page, but we do not have a separate resolution. Again, that my experience would sort of be that the treasurer would not necessarily be authorized to sign this kind of document. If he or she is that, that's fine. But just typically a treasurer wouldn't, in their in their organizational documents. But yeah, I'll reach out to. Okay. Thank you. Levon. Or actions relating to personnel a as a resolution appointing Michael Colette as the city manager and approving an employment agreement. Can I ask that we pull this out? I, I want to pull it out because I want to make the motion. I think we probably all want to have a

little bit of dialog. Mike. I want to make the motion because I think you've done a great job in the interim. I think you've done a really nice job balancing. You know, when the prior count or when the prior council had looked to hire somebody different, that didn't necessarily worked out. And I think things tend to happen for a reason. And I think we were very fortunate. I know the prior council had made the decision to wait until after this budget cycle and was comfortable with the new council, and I think you've done a great job. I think what's important to recognize is that this is not a status quo appointment, and that we have significant expectations of you and from you to continue to work with your team and with the city and take us to another level. And I'm very comfortable with the appointment, and that's why I'd like to make the motion. To pull it for a separate vote. Just for clarification, there's no motion needed. So in the minutes it'll just cite that you pulled it. Okay. Are we ready? What? That there's no motion. You're just pulling down. Rayford I Shaner I Scott I Bernstein, I Bertrand I b as a resolution amending the position classification manual by approving an updated. Mr. mayor, can I can we defer 11 b I know that is. Janelle. Are you in here? Yeah, that's just a job description update isn't it? On that. Let me finish. Job description. Position of police chief. Go ahead. Yeah, that's all it is, right. Gino Bertrand Human Resources Director I just I just haven't had a chance to look at it. There's some things that I want to look at. So if we can just pull it back, it's not. I know it's not urgent, but I wouldn't mind taking a peek at it. Yep. You should see a tracked changes in a clean change. That's what I'm looking for. All job descriptions do.

Thank you. Okay. How long would you like to defer? Can we go? Three weeks. Would you like we could delete it and then bring it back. Let's do that, please. Okay. Do I have a second for deletion? I will. Shaner I, Scott Berenstein a Bertrand a Rayford. I thank you all for actions authorizing payments as a resolution authorizing payment to triple D contracting for the demolition of the 2928 2930 Gordon Drive project. Darryl, you got two down. You got one to go. Are they still willing participants? Excuse me. Darryl Bullock, inspection services manager. The new owners are are once again in communication with us. And they are willing to get that taken care of. They've got them on the market to be sold. So they're not looking to get into all the details that it takes to take a gas station down. So we are, as far as your answer your question, mayor, we're probably 80% done with the other one. Tanks are out. Samples have been taken. We're waiting for samples. Yes, I Morningside Avenue is almost gone. Okay. Thank you. Very good. All right. Thanks. B as a resolution approving a partial settlement of a tort claim and authorizing payment. Zachary Davis C as a resolution amending resolution Number 2020 6-0195, authorizing payment to HR construction for the new utilities field office building. Project D is a resolution authorizing payment to Ferguson Waterworks for the annual fee associated with Neptune 360 water meter meter reading software 13 R actions relating to assessments A is a resolution fixing the amount to be assessed against private property. Adopting and leveling the schedule of assessment for the weed Abatement program. B as a resolution fixing the amounts to be assessed against private properties and adopting

and levying a schedule of assessments for the April Nuisance Abatement program and authorizing civil actions. C as a resolution fixing the amount to be assessed against private property and adopting a levying a schedule of assessments for sidewalk snow removal. Program 14 is purchasing a. Is a resolution awarding a purchase order to Jensen Motors for one Dodge Durango all wheel drive vehicle. Can you show me his abstaining on 14 a please? B as a resolution awarding a purchase order to Jensen Motors for one Ford regular cab pickup, can you show me abstaining on 14 B as well? Please see as a resolution awarding a purchase order to Ed Stivers Ford for one maverick, all wheel drive super crew pickup D is a resolution awarding a purchase order to Stu Hansen, Dodge Jeep City for one Ram tradesman pickup mayor on 14 D. I think we should invoke our council privilege that the difference is 2% or less, and we prefer to buy local. I'll second that. So we would purchase from Jensen as well. Scott, I berenstein abstain. Bertrand a Rayford a Shaner a 15 r applications for cigarette tobacco nicotine vapor product permits. 16 R applications for alcohol license. 17 board commission and the applications under. Are you just reading? 16 are you at 17? I just read, I read 16 and 17, but if you got to go back, just. Can you just show me his

abstaining on item 16 A3A yes, I need to abstain on 16. 16 on mine. Nicole I for Councilwoman Rayford's A1B thank you. A1B yeah. Voting electronically. Five o recommendations of Planning and zoning and Board of adjustment. 18 of motion of Knowledging the Board of Adjustment actions of March 21st. Fourth. I'll move that second. Sorry. We need more liquor licenses. Put them right next to the car. Nothing out of the ordinary. I'm just missing your electronic. Oh, I didn't mean to hit. Nay, I meant to hit. Yay! What's your problem? Call the roll. We'll try one more time. I'm going to call it this time. Bear with me. All right. We're doing a revote on

number 18. Berenstein a Bertrand, a Rayford, a Shaner I, Scott, I we can't take her anywhere. I'm always first time for everything. I always am remiss. What are the guys from Halon? You don't have school today. What are you doing here today? Oh. I didn't think it was because you really wanted to learn about government. Good to see you, though. Thanks for coming. 19 a hearing and ordinance dedicating and naming a portion of the unnamed right of way adjacent to 2702 Adel Street as Adel Street. The petitioner recommends PNC recommends approval. I'll move it. Second, public hearings now open. Vice chair of the Planning and Zoning Commission, and we recommend approval. There were any public comments at the time of the meeting. So, Michelle, why does this happen? A triangle shaped lot like that doesn't. I'm going to probably refer to Chris over here to come up and tell you why it happened. I have no opposition. I'm just curious how this can happen. Chris Madison, planning manager it's an item that very likely the plat was approved late 1800s. The street was changed. Anybody here that would have been there for that in the planning. The dedication was just never followed up on. So we're looking to include that lot in our RFP for infill lots. So we're cleaning some of this up as we're going through. Good. Okay. Thanks, Chris. Anyone else be heard? Hearings closed. Passes five zero. Anybody opposed waving the

statutory rule? No. I'll move. Second. Third. I'll second. You got it. You got to move to waive the statutory. I'll waive move to waive the rules. Bertrand a Rayford, a Shaner I, Scott a Berenstein a and I'll move to waive. Second and third. Second. Rayford Shaner, I Scott Bernstein. Bertrand a needs a hearing. An ordinance rezoning 1000 Morningside Avenue. The petitioners. Kurt Kurppa PNC recommends approval. Somebody else can move it. I don't I don't move liquor store I'll move it. Second hearing is now open, so. Oh, go ahead. I was just going to say the recommendation was from the planning and zoning was to approve it. And there weren't there wasn't anyone at the meeting to provide comments. So this is to have on site consumption. No, no, this is for them to sell liquor at their store to go. I thought I thought the materials said they could sell, but they were looking for on site. I don't believe so. Okay, no, I may have read it incorrect. Okay. Because my question was going to be where would they be consuming? Because that to me would open up a pretty significant opportunity throughout the community for others. Similar situation. But this is just to simply sell alcohol. Okay. That was our understanding. Very good. Right? Yeah. The bourbon commercial does not allow any liquor stores. Gabriel, for city planning. So it's to do off site of alcohol. Okay. Thank you. Welcome. Anyone else to be heard? I'm hearing is closed. Just for the record, Des Moines did a study on this a few years

ago. And every place that these type of operations go, it does have a negative impact on residential neighborhoods. And I haven't voted for one. I'm not voting for one today. Passes five to or 4 to 0, I vote no. I'm opposed waving the statutory rule. We're moving on. Okay. If we're waiting to move second and third, can we see that study from Des Moines? Yeah, we had it around here. Remember somebody had that way back when was about 3 or 4 years ago. Des Moines did a big study on that. The gas station. Yeah, it was gas stations. It was a big study. But the last one, it was on the corner of Morningside Avenue. It wasn't a residential neighborhood. This is right in a residential neighborhood. I know, but you didn't vote for the last one. You said. But that was at a I didn't vote for any of these. Well, I don't know if I did. If I missed it, I shouldn't have. We can pull that study in. Yeah. I'd be curious to see the study. Yeah. Thanks, Chris. And give a history of how our code has changed. Wasn't that because they don't cover they don't carry Dram? Is that why. No, no, it's just because they were they were. It was like car lots in Sioux City. They were getting them everywhere in Des Moines. And it was starting to be. Yes. But. Well, and, and I know years ago, probably 20 years ago, we looked at different commercial businesses. And in the, to Julie's point in residential neighborhoods that were requesting to be able to sell cigarettes, and because they were in residential zones where there were lots of children, we had an opposition to selling cigarettes from commercial properties. The last one that asked for this zoning change was where horizon is now.

Same owner on the corner of Morningside Avenue. And for the old Ben Franklin was not a residential. That's dating us a little bit to know where Ben Franklin. That's consumption that one. That's correct. But you can also take a beer to go if you want to there to that point. Right. But, and it's not a detriment to the neighborhood there. After hours, they're having dinner, they're trying to survive with their business and their customers are asking for beer or wine with their meal. Completely different set of circumstances. But it's the same zoning and the same license. 21 is a hearing and resolution approving a dark. No, it's not the same. Well, it's a license, but it's still it's still liquor license approving a dark fiber mask agreement with. I'm on communication staff request a motion to defer the hearing until April 13th. I'll move that deferral. Second, and just for clarification, we're waiting on the updated bond. We don't have a current bond to proceed at this time. Shaner I, Scott Bernstein, a Bertrand, a Rayford a 22 is an ordinance amending chapter 8.24-1 30 entitled littered covered Receptacles required of the Municipal Code. I'll move that second question. What if you have a big container like a roll off? They have lids. Good question. Environmental services. This would just be for the dumpsters like the eight yard trolley carts. Yes. Well those can't be secured. These would just be like the gravity bars over like the commercial dumpsters, like two yard for yard, eight yard. It wouldn't be the roll offs, wouldn't be the eight gallon or the would be like, what's in

our alleys downtown, but just in the alleys downtown? No, no, it'd be citywide like that. But I'm okay. I'm asking that question because who's going to enforce it? Because I have a problem. As Daryl will tell you in my neighborhood. So who's going to enforce this? Because I want to know who to call directly. I guess it would be me. Okay, add it to my list. You'll be getting a lot of calls. I know Bob, Bob is mayor. You can call anybody you want. In all reality, our ordinance already says like for the trolleys, like residential users and for the dumpsters that businesses and restaurants, churches, libraries, everybody uses. It already says the lids must be kept closed to keep the trash blows them. The wind does not blow the lids up that often. They can, but I'm just saying. So we're adding one more layer to that to keep those things from happening, or from when they're over stacked. Correct. It doesn't have to be locked. It just has to be secured. Correct. From what I've spoken to, all the companies use the same gravity bar. Yeah. So this is a good thing. What would you like? Dave Bernstein, 208 Court Street. I've been pestering you, Julie, as well as city manager. I didn't realize you were against this. Oh, I thought you said with the. I respectfully disagree on the lids. The plastic lids that Gil heavily uses, waste management use a lot are constantly blown open. We have. Saying that they never do. I'm just saying that that's our ordinance. That you must keep them closed. Yes, but there's no way for a business owner to keep their lids secure. The way with the cheap plastic lids that everybody uses in town. If you drive up and down the alleys and Fourth Street,

where we have three buildings now that we're developing, it's just a pigsty back there. All the dumpster lids are open all the time. We have two dumpsters in the alley right outside my door that it is impossible to keep the lids shut up. If you drive back in that area, there's a certain amount of lids that have latches I get. The bars can be a pain, but there are no no latches provided and the ordinance doesn't make sense without providing the latch of note as well. If you drive, if you want to see the worst area in town, drive behind that area. You guys have put a lot of effort into behind Jersey Mike's all the way over to Aldi. Even though they have containment, there's no lids on the roof on the containment, and you see a lot of those flipped open and there it is, just a mess. A ton of trash in that field, isn't there? It is absolutely horrible. And if we have any kind of concern whatsoever in town about beautification, it's just a standard thing. I mean, you don't go to most other cities we operate in and not see latching lids. I mean, I'm not advocating for lock lids, just lids that are attachable. And I don't think just in the same way, the the d o t came along 15 years ago, 20 years ago to all of us operating roll offs. And they said as of such and such a date, give everybody time. You have to cover your roll offs. And we all had to go put ten, 20,000 units on all of our roll off trucks that roll back and cover them when they're driving down the interstate. And even though that was an expense to the business, the operator, that was a very logical, reasonable requirement to keep this stuff from blowing all over town. And it's just a mess. It's long overdue. So anyway, I that's why I've been sticking to it for quite a while. Finally came true. You know what? It finally came through. And if you want some good reading. 8.24.20, which is right near then, is

the one that outlaws dried peels, orange banana, or apple peels on the sidewalks of Sioux City. That's a good one. So much for that. I hope those young people got that for their notes, for their teacher. There are. How do how do we I mean, how is secure defined in. This has to remain shut and have like some secure latch. Looks like they have another way to go about what's that? Bob Batchelor the concrete products. We sell a lot of cement blocks. Right? We actually had a guy that wanted to put bricks on his before, and I had to tell him that's probably not the best thing. But when I spoke to four of our haulers, they all use that same bar. So it's basically looks just like the lock bar. It's a gravity bar. It just doesn't have to have the lock securing it. Who pays for it? The hauler. And I'm sure they're probably. Have they weighed in. They're they know it's coming. I mean I mean anybody here representing the haulers. I don't believe any haulers are here. I'm sure that they'll install them. We're not going to do second and third because of that. That's okay. That's what I was wondering. Thank you. Yeah. They'll install them and I'm sure that cost gets pushed to the consumer as long as we're not going to push, let's do that around 200 or 200, $150 for the bar. And then I think it's $75 for the lock. If they choose to do a lock. As well, it'll be

well worth it to keep the litter contained. Okay. Thank you, thank you. Yeah. I'm a no, Mister Mayor. I'm just a no. Just until we get the second, third reading. I want to hear from the vendors. Then I'm sure we'll be good. Okay. Citizen concerns any citizen to be heard. Please come to the microphone and state your name, please. Seeing none. Come on, get up here. Get your name. For the record, my name is Cole Sprague, 3916 Douglas Street. And just on the permit for the lids. I know that when I worked at Bronner's, it's not even that far downtown. But we need the locks because of the rampant, like the homelessness that they ripped them open and throw them all over. And that's increasing the trash that you guys were talking about. So I feel like for food businesses, it should be required for them to have locks because that helps increase, decrease trash. And it also keeps the lids closed just for Mr. Wright's class. Yep. We'll tell him you were here. Okay. Thank you, thank you. Got to sign something. You got to sign? Yeah. Do you need us to sign your paper? Yeah. How? That works normally. I'll chase you down in the hall. Yeah. Okay. We're going to the heart update while he gets his homework signed there. There you go. Good afternoon, police department. First thing I'll do is introduce Sergeant Van Roekel. She was kind enough to

come today. She is taking Sergeant Gil's spot. So not only is she in charge of the community policing group and Public information group, but she also directly supervises the heart team. Big shoes to fill. But I know you'll do a great job. No. And Lori will we have confidence her she'll be working with Officer Roberts in that community policing group, and Captain Bertrand has transferred to uniform. So we're just going to have some changes in setting some expectations for heart. One of the things that Captain Bertrand mentioned is we would like you guys to have as much information to digest as possible. And what we haven't had on here is when officers take criminal enforcement action or take law enforcement action. So we want to add some information to the heart report out. So we're going to look at how best to convey that information to you. We don't feel like it captures everything that heart is doing a lot of the great work. However, I think, you know, certainly the fact that we've got police involvement, I think we need to mention when we do have to default to arrest to address things. So that's going to be one of the things that we're going to be working on. We're going to give you about four weeks of data and this week's report out. So you guys will have not just two weeks since we do your out report outs. Every couple of weeks, you'll have four weeks of information. If there's anything specific that you're not seeing that we give you in the council update, please let us know. We want to make sure that we're meeting your needs so you can decide, you know, whether or not you're satisfied with the ongoing effort of the homeless Task force. Is there anybody, any participants, anyone that you would like to specifically see at the council meeting to address or to ask questions? We've got a ton of community partners that we've worked with, and what I usually do is I ask the task force if there's anybody that they'd like to push up in front of the mic that might be of value to you to hear from them. You know,

chief, the only organization I can think of would be the Homelessness Coalition. They have so many participants that meet with them on a regular basis that if they felt it was helpful for them to be here and present, I'd welcome their input. But I think you're engaged with them. And if they feel comfortable with the information you're reporting out, that's fine with me. And they just we just actually, as part of the in the last several weeks, Hart met with the coalition. So I'm sure there was a lot of discussions on how we've been doing operations. I didn't hear any report backs to see that. They hear that they weren't happy with that. I think this goes hand in hand with their goals as a coalition. So I think I know that I can I've been to their meeting before. I just thought it was it was a very healthy environment with with candid dialog. And, you know, their organization is passionate and committed to addressing the issues. And that's why I've shared with you that I think they're a critical part of the dialog. And that's why I'm only suggesting that if they felt it would be helpful for them to participate in any of these presentations, I'd be happy to have them participate. But I think you and your team do a great job. And I think we are having the warming shelter present here next week or two as well. So as part of that process and just a little comment, one of the things that I noticed as we're doing last cleanups, and that means that we're the problem areas that the Hart Group was addressing, that we're effectively dealing with that. But the flip side of that is I think that's driving more of these onto private property, which lengthens the period of time that we can address those because we have to work with city inspections. We can't just go on to somebody's personal property and begin a cleanup. So one of the things that can I ask you right there, chief, on the on that. Yes, I had a note on that on that portion of it moving to private properties. So is there anything that that we can do

from an expedited from an ordinance or anything we can do to, to give you a fast track access to this type of property is there are other communities, is there is there a tool that we can give you that gives us a little more urgency to private property on, on an encampment or something? You know, that's something that councilman that I think we do need to discuss. And Marty Doherty has been very open to that. I reached out to him recently specifically about graffiti, how we can get on graffiti a little bit quicker too. So I think one of the successes of Hart has been the fact that, you know, and even internally within the city, we're having conversations with other city departments that is making us more effective. And I would hope that that's something that Daryl and Marty and I can. But like from a private property standpoint, when you guys reach out, does it seem pretty positive though? Normally when you lot of times don't even know what's on the property or what's been the response when it's on, when you, when you reach base, when you touch base with them on the private property, feeling this is going to come my direction. So I'll come on up. Private property issues typically come out of the inspection services department. We work very closely with them. There are state regulations as far as notification process. We have to send out a certified mail so we get a signature on that. That does delay things an awful lot. If we can find a way to do that. We're trying to reach out finding phone numbers for the actual property owners, things like this that we can actually call them. Most of the property owners, if we can speak to them, will give us permission to move on to it and get that encampment off their property. So that has moved some things up. I know, because then it doesn't become then because if I look from other communities, what they do, how they get it off private property quicker is that's exactly what they do is they do a verbal, they say it's not on there. Give them permission for that to remove the trespassing. Yeah, we've actually we've actually got a document now that they can sign. So once we make that phone call, they can sign it to give us that permission to go on because there are certain liabilities and things like that for injuring or damaging property and things like that, that needs to be waived so that we can go on and do that. So that's new. We are starting. Yeah, we have been doing that for a little bit. While the

problem of it is most of these are vacant lots, and then they end up being owned by somebody out of town. And that does slow things down. But we have gone through and most people will have it in an LLC of some kind. We'll reach out to the business entities on the state sites and we'll look for communications. Now, a lot of times they don't put their own names on it. They'll have a lawyer or something that will represent. Then we can start the process of going through the lawyer. But it does still, while it does drag out some, it still doesn't take as long as trying to send a certified mail out that takes two, three, four weeks sometimes, and then it comes back and it's not even signed because they didn't sign for it. And then we have to actually go out and stick it to the property. We have to we have to try that first, then we can post it on the property, because then the judge looks at this. If we've done our service of notice properly, the judge has no problem signing it. We get judges signatures all the time for going on property and cleaning them up, and it's not a big issue that's very quick. We can do that same day and then we can move forward with the actual cleanup. I know there is one large concern that we're working with the police department on right now, and that's on Hamilton Boulevard. Yeah. Well that too, that's where actually county property. So we're trying to work through the county for them to take responsibility of cleaning up their property there. But north of Walgreens on Hamilton Boulevard, there's a commitment there that we're working together. There's a meeting tomorrow on that with the property owner themselves. Is that the property just to the adjacent area? Just to the north of there? Yeah, yeah. About Walgreens or. Yeah. Excuse me. Walgreens. Yeah. Just north of Walgreens. Yeah. So we are working towards getting that one. So that is, that's been an ongoing problem there. An issue that has neighborhood services there. Homeless coalition I know has reached out to those people that are there. The people that are in the encampment have refused services before. I'm sure they're probably going to be a repeat customer again, but we'll just keep swinging at it. The next question then, chief, would be, so when we spoke with the judges and a really good meeting with the judges, they talked about some of the requests they had, which was when I met with Shayla at the homeless Center. I got to start using these terms right. When you have a tier, tier one person, that if someone is refusing help, that's just basically our repeat offenders. When we issue them a citation and it goes in front of a judge and we're doing better paperwork, more, we're kind of

being more teeth trying to get more impact on them. Do you guys get any feedback then on how that closes the loop? So let's say you, you arrest someone and it goes in front of a judge. Do you guys get any closure on that individual? I know we have we have these people kind of not categorized but documented as repeat offenders. Are you getting feedback on on how far they got prosecuted? I'm not sure that we're always going to get feedback at times there. If if there's a disposition, sometimes the prosecutors will send a form back to the officers, but they do well in some cases. I don't always see them. But I can tell you that our Crime analysis unit is working on creating an entire new list of the most frequent fliers, so to speak. So that and it's for the purpose, that exact purpose that you said, not only for the judges, but for the jail, for the non-sworn staff, at the jail, for the officers, so that everybody is in the loop as to who were experiencing the most problems with to ensure that we're doing exactly what you just mentioned is that when they come through the judges, it's like a prosecutor alert. They understand that this is somebody that we have done all we could for, but that the consequences need to happen here. And so that's an ongoing discussion. Obviously, we have to work with the county attorney's office, but as you said, the judges are certainly willing, but we have to do our part to document and determine who those people are. And right now, in fact, I spoke to the lead crime analyst today. She's working on that new list because, quite frankly, the old list of folks that weren't accepting services, we, the heart team, did such a good job with doing diversion and getting services to some of those folks that we're not seeing them. So something's working there. But for those who are refusing, those that aren't accepting help and they're continuing to causes problems, we're going to make sure that we're tagging them and that we're addressing them appropriately. But chief, that's that's I mean, I just want to make sure that that

that's based on what criminal trespass or no, it's I mean, well, it's based on a number of things who we're dealing with most often trespass in itself. We've said it here, trespass in itself without an accompanying, you know, charge of, you know, that somebody is committing a public offense while trespassing is is a minor offense. Right? So that's not that's not what we're using to determine that. In fact, not all the folks on this list that we're making are necessarily related to homelessness. But it is one of those things that we are trying to come up with. Who are we dealing with most often? Who's causing us the most issues? Because while we said this task force is not is about finding nontraditional solutions, we still need to use law enforcement techniques every now and then, and we still need to make arrests in some cases. So it's about figuring out who those people are, who are creating the most issues for us so that we have an appropriate criminal justice. Two so two, two other flags just in the last couple of weeks. And I know you're getting tired of my pictures that I send to you, because all I do is when people text me pictures of people drinking beer and stuff on the streets, I just send them right to you. It's like, hey, I know you respond wonderfully, which is great. The what? It's got to be getting tiresome. It's kind of the same areas and stuff. Is there any like, do we try to do any type of, I don't know, mission? I don't call it mission, but any type of specific areas that we just say, okay, at some point we've just got to shut this area down. One being across from, from, from, from parents place. I mean, that's, I mean, I'm texting you three times a week now. Those guys are drinking beer on the sidewalk and they ain't getting I mean, we, we flushed the cops and they show up and it's hard on you guys resources. But at what point do we who, who number one, are they walking out of the rail with it or where? You know, why is that a is that just because it's warm there with the sun? I mean, why does that seems to be an area that we just can't get a handle on? You would think that all the contact that they have from our officers would convince them that maybe they go somewhere else, but I can only settle on the fact that they

don't care, no matter how many times we deal with not feeling any pain. There's. Yeah, well, I mean, when you think about it, if if your situationally homeless, if you're homeless, a trip to jail isn't that bad a deal. It's air conditioning. It's maybe you get fed. So at times, you know, our response doesn't make it all that much more unappealing. We're going to continue to respond and we're going to continue because ultimately, our goal is always going to be to modify behavior. If people are engaging in bad behavior, you would hope that if you see us enough, you might change your behavior. Yeah. But again, I'll apologize in advance again for the text messages, but I do I do know no response to that question is there I get those is keep sending them. I mean, is there a criminal offense at that point to, to, to, to that that question? Well, if they are consuming and a lot of the times when we sent officers, they don't have evidence of consumption. And you could do public intox if they're intoxicated. But again, we're talking about Fourth Amendment issues. When somebody is in the in the common right of way for us to, to take and displace somebody just because somebody doesn't like looking at them. Right? We're asking for trouble. Absolutely. We have to we have to balance. Now, I can tell you that the officers try their best to get voluntary compliance when they don't have an arrestable offense. And quite often folks do move on. And it does use resources, but it doesn't mean that we can't address them. So when people call, we're going to come. So last on that because the weather's getting nicer again in our the grand entrance to our city. Once again, I know that panhandling is not illegal. It's protected, but it is illegal in the media, right? Select meetings wide or less. What's that? If they're six feet wide or less. So the. So are they. How have we dropped the tape measure on that one up there on top Wesley way because they're back. And I run that

three, four times a week easily. And in the last three weeks there they are taking turns. So a lot of times it's late and I'm not sure what time the task force ends or whatever, or our badges on the streets leave. What's the process? How do you want us to handle that? Just, just a call is great. Are you cool with that? I mean, okay, there was a day shift sergeant who was very passionate about that. He had his folks hit it pretty hard for a while and that did modify it. Did it did. It really helped. It did. But again, we're it's always a challenge. You hope that you will modify behavior and they'll start doing it again. But as we've said, we're always moving the problem. Ultimately, we push it off the bridge. It's going to go somewhere else. It is pushing it out. The other hot spot is right down by Winslow's new place, right down there by that new brew brewpub to the fifth Street. Yeah, fifth in his new place. Right about a block. Yeah. Novelty. Yeah. They like the sun there. They're drinking beer all the time against that wall. It seems like you drive by there. And that's that's becoming kind of the new spot, right to the to the west of his new place. You hate to see his new place get polluted. So just thought I'd point out some hot spots, but other than that, we'll keep hitting it. Hey, we're winning in some places, no doubt about it. And especially the encampments. I think they're feeling it. And I think what Jill's doing, I appreciate the efforts. And you know the ambassadors are coming. The badges are there so well. And as I said, if you look at the cleanups, the the amount of cleanups are going down because the frequent spots that we were having them were addressing them quickly. And it's like graffiti. If you clean things up quickly, if you if you work proactively, there's less of a chance of, of those issues continuing. I had an amazing, an amazing conversation with Shayla and she's going to come in. Shayla is it more, more. Yeah, but really, really a quality individual there. What she's doing her mission and we had a real candid conversation. And I guess first I thought it was rich that she thinks that those places next door are 901.

Nebraska need to come down because her neighbors are a detriment to her business. I thought that was kind of ironic that that that, that that language. But her her her perspective, I love it when it gets thrown back at us that we homeless is never going to go away. Right? It keeps coming back. Well, everybody has it. You're never going to cure homelessness. So at some point do we go, okay, we're not going to cure homelessness, but we have we do have the right to contain it, corral it. And I think that we need to maybe change mindsets and say, okay, at what point now it's the elephant in the room. We've talked about the warming center and other, other, other places. If we can't cure it, in some instances, we still need to have the ability to corral it. And if that means that we need to identify, identify that their services and closer to the food source or whatever we need to do. But I think when she's going to come in and present the homeless, the warming shelter, I think that's going to be part of the conversation is right now, it seems like we're just kind of scattered like marbles all over the downtown. And at some point we need to start corralling this, you know, closer to the food sources and their, their needs. So I just thought that would be a question that's going to be coming up in the next few weeks. It's a great discussion. I just wanted to add in the situation on Hamilton. We have a meeting this week. I think we've got neighborhood services, police zoning and inspections involved in trying to come up with some solution there. So and meeting with the property owner so we can find some creative ways to, to deal with that. I think sometimes we, we also need some, some education because obviously with, with panhandling, if people are continuing to give and passed and you know, if a person says, hey, this is where I'm going to make the most money or get the most, then it's, you know, it won't change no matter how many officers we send by or whatever. And so I think that, you know, it's a great, as you say, Marty,

a great discussion. And of course, I'm going to always make sure that we don't criminalize homelessness. Homelessness, homelessness and, and such. But yeah, we want to make sure it's cleaned up too as well. So a couple other things on the list. I guess the frequent flier list that we have, we have a meeting that will be up on the 17th to take that from a paperless to a digital one. We're on the same record management system with the jail. That meeting will be, how do we get that list that I believe is now done? The crime analyst has that done that? We can get that directly to the jail, just just so that no one can drop the ball. Like if I forget to let the jail staff know, hey, this person's one of our frequent fliers that trigger that alert for the judge, that will happen automatically. So that'll be something that'll speed line that just add what the chief said in looking at the last couple of weeks to take over the homeless group and looking at it at time and pressure is really is really the success. It's the collaboration, of course, between agencies, but you got to put time and pressure where we've done that, we have success and I think that'll be that'll be the model going forward. So if there's something we want to attend to, we need to get on it. Absolutely. Thanks, guys. Okay. Building permits. Okay. Darryl Bullock, building inspection services supervisor we did have the spreadsheet sent out. Again, as you can see, there's a lot more residential activity than there is commercial. Commercial right now is slow. We're listening. We're hearing back from a lot of the trades. Most of the trades have a good percentage of their of their staff laid off. They're reaching out farther and farther out in the communities.

And I think part of your discussion earlier about getting bids on some of these projects, it's great timing. You know, I'm looking at some of the projects that we might have coming up for demolition that are bigger projects. And, and honestly, now is the time to save some money, quite frankly, because there are people out there that are really looking for some work. So sad, obviously, but it is, it's the reality of it. So we do have some projects that have gotten slowed up a little bit. They're kind of backing down. They're not looking for a real quick turnaround time to move forward. So they're just asking a lot of questions before they're even actually putting in applications. So we are working through a lot of those with them at their pace. They're looking for again, they're just not ready to start. They've got some projects going. But we do have several of them that we are still looking at. And there are some smaller projects for little interior remodels and things like that that are going on just to keep staff busy. So residential, like I said, residential is good. We've still got quite a number of them coming in and very optimistic that that's going to continue, because we're still hearing a lot of buzz out there about some new areas being built in and things like that. So. Well, Daryl, I want to compliment you. Thank you. You've taken ownership of that department. I mean, you really have. I mean, when it comes to pushing permits through and you are you're hovering, which is good. And the service, I mean, the feedback, the text messages that I know that we're all getting is very positive. The turnarounds, I mean, kind of historic type stuff, especially on the residential side, like you said, some of the snafus that we've had on even on the commercial sides. I appreciate you and Mike. I think the, the we were doing less and less of having to have the big meetings on job site where we can work it out on site versus come on, guys, let's, let's keep it going. Yeah. The meeting that we had the other day down on fourth Street, it was just, you know, you came back and sat down with Marty and, and Chris and some economic development people as well. And the program is going to be able to work for him either direction, whether

he goes to a new or expansion. I think we'll go to the expansion because he has a lot less restrictive requirements that way. So I think the project's going to move forward very quickly that way. I've been in contact with his designer, Doug Rose. And cost feasible. Yeah, that's the key. He can actually afford to do it. And I mean, the goal for that whole program was basically to fill vacant buildings. And that's what this does. It perpetuates that. So I think it's a great way to be able to move that forward. Quick update on the software program. We continue to move forward slowly. We have done some internal housekeeping and some work that was a prerequisite to putting the software apps in involves some training and some different departments, customer service and so on, and some updating of the document management systems. When you go to it, when are you going to understand everything? But when are you going live? When are you guys going to go live? I don't know yet. We're waiting for timeline from Central Square and I talked to it this morning. What's your guess? Soon. Okay, another 60 days maybe. I'm seriously. They're very slow and we've got to get getting all these other things we're doing what things that we can control. We've got those things in place and there was a lot to that, a lot more than I realized. But we're still waiting for the go ahead from Central Square. I will add to that, because one of the big benefits of that was going to be the online submittals of building permits, and we found an avenue to be able to do that. Without this program, it's not as good. It's not as 100%, but at least it does move that forward a lot quicker. And we're able to respond back and forth a lot freer that way, too. So can they pay online yet? I'm sorry. Can they pay online? That is the one thing that we're not able to do yet, but at least we are able to accept those and review those as electronics instead. So that's a that's a big win for the back about work. They come in, drop off their payment and yeah, yeah, it's a big win for us in that. We proceeding with 901. What's the status there Marty. What are we going to do. That's my direction is to keep moving

forward. We did remove we did receive an email that had some some attachments on it. The one attachment had to deal with the map, the mechanical electrical, plumbing for engineer. Well, the phone number on it related to a company out in New York. There was no address on the letterhead whatsoever from the company. And it's very hard to design mechanical, electrical or plumbing if you don't have an actual blueprint or design to work from, nor are you able to see the property. So there was also a sketch that was attached. Obviously, it was just computer generated. Just click, click, click because it actually had more openings than what there actually is there on the, on the print. So it's nothing's changed. You know, council was generous in opening it up for a 90 day stay of demolition. Nothing really has happened there. We've had numerous phone calls about graffiti and standing open for them to get up there and boarded up. One of the deed holder's Kyle actually reached out on an email and said that, you know, if we're moving forward with demolition, he'd like to have the opportunity to do it himself, which is perfectly fine. As many of you council members know, we do have $100,000 of their money to for the demolition purpose, but if they move forward with that demolition themselves, then they'll receive that 100,000 back. So you're moving forward. What's the date today? I'm going to reach out. And this on the 20 on the 14th I believe it is is my actual cut off when I can legally do that. So right after that, I'll be reaching out to Kyle and let him know that he can get started or he can get started before that if you'd like to, but it's going to be I'm going to get started with the asbestos survey. I don't know how much we're going to find in there. There was a lot of demolition that went way farther than it should have, so I don't know how much got done. I'm hoping that the floor, the dust on the floor doesn't test positive for asbestos, because that's a big cleanup. If it is Daryl listed $100,000 bond or is it an actual check, $100,000 cashier's check? Yes. Well, again, I'm not here to. I think it's great that you're being extremely aggressive and keep your foot on the gas with a lot of these demos, man. I mean, the day for Grace is over that

the community wants Clean up and you're doing it and it's people are seeing it. One of the things you'll find in the placard hearing or the placard presentation that's coming up next, is that I asked for demolition on everything when I come to council. Yeah. And it's a lot more manageable that way because if they're serious about it, then they can provide the documents to me that show that they are serious and that they have the financial means to do those to do, to actually make those repairs, because that's when we have failures when they don't fully understand. I think Mike's going to I think Mike's going to we're doing a presentation on red tag, aren't we? That's right. Right now. Right now I can just loop over into it. Let's hear it. Marty's going to be my van over here and run the slideshow for me. So anyway, start off with with the property. How did we get our red tags? Typically red tags. You guys bring that up. Coming up. There it goes. Thank you. And by the way, these photos are all local photos. They're all properties or inspections that we've been called out on. Unfortunately, a lot of them are in the middle of the night, but they are properties here in town. There's not a lot. We're just going to go through a few of them. But our where we get our property, our our leads, if you will, for it is a common center typically is probably 80% of our, our red tags initiate out of the comm center. They'll call us during the day. They'll call us in the middle of the night. And we're going to respond to fire and police requests at those times. They're going to be out there for some kind of an issue. And that gets us into private property as well. That way. And we're able to go in and make an assessment of the property and and move forward from there. So police and fire are by far the most routine rental inspections will go into some of these places, and they're just absolutely trashed. Unfortunately, landlords might not be as diligent in going in and checking these properties, and they just get to be a hoarding situation or just complete unsanitary situations. Some of them are based on complaints, neighbors complaining and letting us know that there's property that's got a lot of issues next to them. They're tired of dealing with the blight in their neighborhood, and they'll call it in, and we'll go out and make inspections and and move forward based on what we can find there. The other one is water department. You know, people say, well, you're going

to red tag a house just because they don't have water. Yeah, I am, and I'm going to do that because of sanitary issues. And you'll notice on a couple of these streams what happens. And I've promised that I would keep the nasty photos out. I kept them fairly PG. So but you understand you can't flush the toilet, you can't take a shower, you can't clean food prep, you can't do any of that when you don't have, when you don't have water service. So now it becomes an unsanitary situation. And part of the requirement is, is that the plumbing fixtures are operable. That's part of the, the occupancy requirements. So that's how we get to tag some of those properties. And we do get them brought up to code at that point. One of the other understandings is the fact that you hear a placarded, you hear red tags, you hear it's condemned. All three of those mean the exact same thing. And what those mean is that it's not fit for human occupancy. Now it's on structures. Now we can also placard fences and retaining walls in sheds, but none of that allows for human occupancy. So they have it's an unsafe situation. So if you red tag or placard or condemn a fence or an outbuilding. Yeah. Does that trigger the updating of the primary residence as well? No not necessarily. We can we can placard a specific issue on a property. So apartment buildings are a good example of that. We might get called out because there was a small fire in a, in an apartment building itself. And that apartment was the only one or maybe 1 or 2 apartments were were were affected. But the structural integrity is fine and the rest of the utilities work for the rest of the apartments. And we'll just tag just that apartment or 1 or 2 apartments. Same thing here. If we've got a shed or a garage falling down in the back, you know, we've all seen garages that are leaning like this and, you know, some of these properties, you know, back then they didn't know what a portal frame was, you know, and that has to do with how narrow that wall is on the side of the garage door. That's what keeps it upright. So it's not going to lean. And we can address just those garages. Then they can make the repairs on them. But if they're not too far gone, but we can just do a garage, we can just do a fence, we can just do a retaining wall. And we have

done retaining walls before and placarded that. So they had to abate that structure. But on a primary residence, if you red tagged for a particular issue that triggers a red tag for other issues. Yeah. The entire structure, if, if the, there's, there's a key word that basically keeps that moves anything forward is occupancy, okay? And occupancy is either lost when it's, it's a lack of use. You don't use it for that type of occupancy anymore. You've changed that. Or if you lose it because of a red tag situation where you've placard structure, now you have to bring it up to current code. Now does that mean I'm going to make you go through and strip everything out of that house and start? No I'm not. We're going to look at it and we're going to make accommodations as long as it's safe and and healthy. Health and safety are by far the most concern. So we want to make sure that there's safety is issue. And it's not just for the one that's in there now, but it's one in there for five years, ten years, 15 years from now, they have to be safe as well. So yeah, reasons for placarding no heat. That little icicle came from the second floor and went all the way down into the basement because there was no heat in the structure. And obviously the water lines broke, froze wide open. That was up on Ingleside. This is another one over on this is on Court Street. No gutters for many years. No downspouts for many years. Foundation washed out from underneath it. Obviously have a structural issue here. So structural failures is another part of it. We've all seen some areas around here. We've had some roof collapses over the years because of lack of maintenance or dedication. So we're structural failure is another one of ours that we end up getting into quite frequently hoarding. Unfortunately it happens. It happens in every community. And this is one of the good pictures. It it is a unhealthy situation. It's not safe. We've had one up on corner of Stone Park Boulevard and Blackstone. I believe it was where at actual an elderly person got trapped because they had what we call. We like to refer to them as a path house where the tiles are stacked up so high, you just have a path going through and, and the materials

fell over on top of her. And she laid there for about a day before somebody found her. She was still alive and she was living still when we took the red tag off. But there was a lot of work there to get that property cleaned out so that it was safe for. Again, ventilation is always a big problem when you have that because you're plugging up air return vents and supply vents for the air. Unsanitary. We talked about earlier. Unsanitary, no water situations. You can't keep it clean if you don't have water. So. Fire is another one. This one could have been done for both. Actually, there could have been three on this one. That's one of the reasons why I put this picture in at this particular house. This one is on the list right now for demolition will be demolished here in my next contract. This had a foundation structural issue where the back corner of the house is probably dropped at least eight inches, if not more. So the house is leaning towards the neighbor's house hoardings. Through the entire house. You can see one of the piles that was one of the smaller piles in her room, and it was burnt pretty bad on the inside as well. So it was pretty well gutted out. So but fire is obviously one of the big ones that we get called out. So what do we do. We look at them and investigate. We look we determine the severity of the health and safety issues, evaluate the conditions and determine if it needs to be placarded. So we may go through and look at it and say, okay, we can do this. We can leave this on and keep this moving forward for you. If we meet these conditions, we'll give them an official notice and say, these things have to be taking place in 90 days, or we could move forward with a placard on your structure. It gets them motivated, they get it done, and they get it cleaned up really quick. If we feel that it's just not safe for them to live in there, to be in that particular property, that's when we'll go ahead and put the placard on and we'll move forward with that. Notification process immediately. At the time of the notification, a placards put on the door, also an official notice telling them if and when they can be in the property. They're given timelines for which we'll get into a little bit further here, but the owner is given a certified mail, and in that certified mail is a listing of the timelines that they have to deal with the correctional requirements for that to be

able to remove that tag, the appeal methods that they might have. And then of course, all notifications are recorded against the property as well. Does anything change with if ownership changes with the property timelines? Yeah. See, that's one of the reasons why we record it. So the only problem is if you have somebody that's got a big surprise says, hey, I didn't realize it. Well, the red sticker on the front of the door is a pretty good indication for you. We try to keep them on. Sometimes they get peeled off. We go back out, we'll put another one on. It gets peeled off. We go out and put another one on or it gets covered up because it's boarded over or something like this. But we always try to keep that sticker on there. But the main thing is, is the fact that we record these immediately. So if they do a title search, when they're purchasing that property instead of a quitclaim deed, they're going to know immediately. They're going to see the official notification. If that official notification was was not signed, not claimed by the owner of the property, and the certified mail came back to us, we moved forward with actually placing it on the property itself. We placard it on the property and then we photograph of that so that we show we have documentation that that they were notified of what was wrong. They can't be in it. And the fact that their appeal process that they have at that time, but not everybody, sometimes quitclaim deeds create surprises. Yeah, they do. And that's and we try to make sure people understand what the risk that they're taking when they get a quitclaim deed. We have one right now that is coming up here in the next placard hearing on sorry I ruined everybody's 16th evening, the 16th for you, but we're keeping it short as we can. We got one coming up on there. And when property owners get that that hearing, notice that it's coming up for council decision on what to do with those properties. That notice is also recorded against the deed, but also they're like, oh my gosh, they're going to come do it. So let me just dump this property. And one of these properties, it's it's horrible. And they're trying their best to get it sold. And people that are there trying to do quitclaim deeds. And so far, the majority of them have all come in and we've shown the pictures of the place and said, you know, you obviously have the right to do

move forward with any way you want to. But here's the reality of it. And we would show it to them. They're like, well, we weren't told any of that. Would the recording of the notification of the placard be reflected in their title opinion, or would that be one of the exceptions? At the end of the opinion that says it says something to the effect of we are not opining on, because oftentimes that will be assessments or other carve outs to the opinion. Right. That's a legal question. I'm not sure exactly how that appears when they do title search. Sure. And it's been a long time since I've seen a title opinion that's flagged. This has come to my attention, but I believe it's noted in the main body of the title opinion and not as an exception. I would just add, historically, the department 20 years ago was rented a completely different way where they would just when they took the placard off, they would just hand the placard owner or the property owner the release and say, here you go, go ahead and record it. I would say less than 50% of those ever got recorded. So we do, we we haven't had a lot lately, but for many, many years we were getting when these properties were being sold, we were getting calls because the title still was flagged that the property was still placarded, when in fact the placard had been released quite some time ago and it just wasn't getting done. So now our office, once they come in, they pay, they pay their placard lease fees, which are basically $220, covers recording costs and things like that. Then we immediately record that for them so that they don't have to. So that way they know that the placard has been removed. Yeah. Guidelines. Property owner has six months to make repairs. There are a few other timelines in there that we try to give opportunity for them to, to, you know, get things going. There are some some shorter notices if necessary. We can move that up. But in general speaking, we're going to say we give them six months to make those repairs. Failure to make the repairs will result in council action. So these quarterly placard hearings that you'll have, that's when those are taken care of. I am going to bring if I if it's at a

point where it's coming, hasn't been taken care of, and I've felt the need to bring it to council, I'm going to ask them to be very consistent. I'm going to ask for demolition on every one of them, and I would appreciate your support in doing that, because it's much better way of managing the property through to the end that way. The council may grant a one time stay of demolition. The property we discussed earlier has had two. That's in direct violation of municipal code as it was, let alone anything else that's been going on with it. So just keep that in mind. We try to make sure that we. This is another reason why we're very. Back when that first one was granted was a long time ago. And we didn't. They didn't. Council did not always move them forward the same way they made provisions this way or provision that way, whether it was in line with what the code requirements were or not. Unfortunately, those decisions were made. We've moved past that, and that's one of the reasons why I'm so very firm about the demolition requests that I send in, because I work with these people beforehand. I bet you I've taken at least five properties off since I sent placard notices out, so they don't have to come to you for your decision. We were able to deal with them up front and get them taken care of before they ever came to you. So when you get that list, that list is is pretty set. And one thing I would just add, I've been very impressed by when they, when they have a situation of a red tag type house, they record, they keep, they open a case file and they keep a record of every contact that we've had with, with the property owner. Every time they set foot in the house, every time they take any action, it's pretty complete. And they put photographs in there too. And I've been impressed by how you might hear different things from owners, different stories you might hear or whatever. But there's a record. You can be confident that there is a record in, in the computer file for that property that goes back and covers everything. I might miss something, but pretty much it looks like I've seen every

interaction that we have with with the property owner, the notices, the replies, any inspections, re inspections, it's all in there. And you know, if you ever had a particular address that you want to know more about, they could give you a record of that and show you everything that's happened since it started. And so again, with that timeline. And so there's no ever reset if a new owner purchases, no provisions that are that, that directly state that we have brought them back before because it's just, you know, for whatever reason, it's just a very solid, solid structure. We want to make sure that we're moving forward. When I bring a property forward for, for, for that council action, to give them a stay of demolition might be to resend the demolition order and grant them a stay of demolition. I've had a lot of conversations with them and the requirements are pretty clear. It's you give me estimates of repairs for everything electrical, plumbing, mechanical construction totaled that number up. And if that's $50,000, then you give me a letter from a financial institution. I don't care how much money you have or how much money you have access to. I just need to know that you've got $50,000. If that's the number available for that project. And then I'm going to ask for the bond. I'm going to be very consistent about it. $10,000, you're going to hear $10,000. Well, it doesn't say $10,000 in the code. It says the estimated cost of demolition. If you look at the highs and the lows on single family dwellings, it's typically $10,000. So why did I ask for 100,000 on the 901 Nebraska Street? Because it's probably going to take 100,000 or more to do that project. I had asked for $70,000 on the one up at 27th and court, and we were able to release the monies back because I got that one down for, I want to say 57, $58,000. So that extra that they had on there that they failed, I was able to return

back to them. So the reality is, I think you give them the property owners every opportunity to save the property. And it ultimately it boils down to the quality of the property and the quality of the, of the person. Yeah. You know, I mean, there's, there's a great example. I appreciate you saying that because there's a property coming back on this placard here on the, on the 16th that was on last placard hearing, and council moved forward to remove it from that hearing and give them that time. And it was removed. So they didn't have to do the bond or anything because it was deleted from the action and they've done nothing. So it's back on there again. So is the six months. Is that is that a city ordinance? Is that state that's in that's in the city ordinance that is city six months is city municipal code under title 2006. 030. So do you find out that normally I want to beat this to death, but that's okay. It's a great conversation for the community to hear because I think this is one of the things people, you know, the world's changing six months, squatters, everything else. Yeah. So my question is, do most people do the when you give them six months, do they do the repairs the last two months? Good. Good question. That's a great question, I would say. That's my that's why I would say maybe 5050. Yeah, that to me, that's what normally what happens if you give somebody six months. They, they want me to do it the last two months. Or if you give them three months, they're going to get it done after one month. And unfortunately. So again, I go back to this, the quality of the of the neighborhood, right? If this is not state mandated or anything else, I think it's something that the council maybe, maybe. Well, there are some provisions in there in that chapter that then in the timelines that's accelerated, that can be accelerated if they don't do it. And one of the reasons was conversations that I had with prior councils going back several sessions ago of councils, you know, or cycles of councils before was that I was not being as, as cooperative or, you know,

working with them as much as I could. And I was tearing too many of them down. And that's okay. That's their opinion and that's fine. But when you look at it's not just that person, it's it's the whole neighborhood and it's the people that are going to be living in that house from years to come down the road. It needs to be safe because we said it was my name goes on it when it goes back out, my name is on that, whether it's a building permit or a removal of red tag, my name ultimately is on that for the life of that structure. Well, I think too that what you see too now, Daryl and I think Julie, you know, you know, this with infill lots is that we are in an environment of there's a whole group of developers or infill guys that are out there now. So, you know, the old days of, oh, we got to save the structure, save the structure because integrity of the neighborhood. What I found in some in the neighborhoods that I'm in is you take down the two bad apples and everybody else starts investing in their place and some another developer moves in and throws in a 1000 square foot house. I agree. So I think it's we're in a different environment where it was like, oh my God, we got to preserve, preserve, give them every chance opportunity. And I don't think that's where we're at anymore because a lot of these are just their bulk landlords or they're, they're, they're just absentee owners. Yeah. Absentee. So that's why I think we as a council, that's the beauty of this conversation is to really kind of evaluate. I think this council has your back and completely supports what you're doing when on an accelerated timeline, because I think there is people that want to backfill these. You know, you got a lemon up there on Royce or something and you knock it down, you're gonna have another one quick. Yeah, exactly. And that's what's cool. On the vacant to vital list. Yeah. Several of those several aggressive. Several of those things have happened where we've, there's been some some changes on on zoning, if you will, through the years and or amendments or text amendments to them where we're able to get some of those back into those, into those areas where we couldn't before. And they can be built on now. And that helps keep that that filled in, because it is important to refill those lots back into that, because it does make a neighborhood, does make the community, you know, we've got a structure that's going to be

on the placard here and on Thursday night, next Thursday night. And that is a very, very solid structure. But it needs to be it needs to be in the hands of a very willing participant that knows exactly what it's going to take, because that neighborhood needs a solid. Structure like that in place for the for the betterment of the neighborhood. And I think there's, there's some people out there that are willing to do it. I'm not I'm not afraid of the building falling down. I'm not afraid of the building falling with pieces off of it. It's structurally sound. Unfortunately, it's had last 4 to 5 years. Unbelievable lack of maintenance and to the point where it finally got placarded because there was there was not enough heat in the building. There was no heat. So there was a lot of subcontractors that didn't get paid for their duties, their work that was done on it. There was no elevators that were workable, which were required. A lot of different things went against strikes against us before we. So what I think the community needs to hear out of this presentation is that, number one is there's a refocus on cleaning up our neighborhoods where we all live in. There's always 1 or 2 bad apples out there. And then we do have a bad player, not a bad landlord or a bad tenant or a bad out of towners that we're going to aggressively pursue that with the red tag, and we're going to aggressively pursue to get it fixed up or it's coming down, and we're going to put, you know, reliefs on the way. So I think that's that's the message I think we want to put out to the community is that there's a sense of urgency when it comes to these these houses. Yeah. And I think one of the other things I do want to say as far as with with the whole going for demolition thing, it does speed up anybody that really wants to get it. Now it's on demolition list and he can move it at any time. And it does take a little bit of time because you got to do this bestos and you got to do all that kind of stuff, but at least it's got a time. It's got

a clock clicking away on it. And I would like to wrap up with the fact that that we've got a we've got it down to a science. I mean, Craig, you can attest to how bad some of those hearings used to be. There was one hearing it had 200 properties on it had to go several nights just to get it done, because they hadn't been consistently coming to council. And I think one of the things, one is we're very we're very aggressive in get them done as quickly as we can. We can we can always push to get it better. And I think that that's one of the things that we you know, with your support, we can do. But as we look at that, we've got our CIP fund. We've talked a little bit about that in budget hearings. And I was might have been told I should have asked for more, but I didn't because $400,000 is a lot of money. It's a lot of taxpayer's money because it does come out of the general fund. Actually, it does have some casino money in it, I believe, too, but we're very diligent about trying to get our money back. So we invoice immediately. Once everything is done to that property holder, the deed holder, and then if they don't do it, then we go ahead and assess it against the property and we will get it. When a property is sold, a lot of times we'll get a check back from the county. It might be a while, but you know, one year I think we got $70,000 back and I didn't even spend 100,000 that year. So some years I won't spend that 400,000. But then you have a couple of big buildings and it's gone and you got to start building it up again. So I think that I just want to add, I know we wanted to end there, but I just want to add I think Daryl does a great job. A couple of things. One, he's very thorough. He takes it seriously and he constantly points out the public safety aspect of this, that people's lives are at risk. If you're going to have a fire, you're going to have an issue like that. And but at the same time, I think he treats he and his staff treat people fairly, and they give him an opportunity if they want to fix that up, we're going to help them do that, and we're going to give them time to do that. But so often times it doesn't happen and that's when it gets

gets to the point where you've got to take action. I will say one thing about this, the safety part of it, sometimes it's pretty simple to look at and do. Other times it's hidden a little bit. You know, one of the properties I talked about with it being a solid structure, but it's an apartment building and they didn't have any heat. So the owner that lives clear over on the coast, their decision was to go ahead and buy a bunch of ptac units and put TAC units in each apartment. The square footage coverage for the common TAC units that he had purchased, you need two for each apartment at minimum. Well, they all draw 30 amps. Well, the breaker panel for each for each apartment is 30 amps. I'm not sure how you're going to do that work. So now you're looking at rewiring the whole building. So they're making decisions that aren't safe. We find we go into these places. We find them all the time where they put they've over amped it, you know, hey, we kept blowing the breaker. I got another one we were checking out this afternoon, or I hadn't heard back from the inspectors yet what we found. But the people that are living in this apartment, they kept blowing the breakers in their apartment. Well, she even wrote in she goes, they keep breaking the. They keep blowing the breakers. So my husband and I went out and got a new breaker for the main. Well, that's a problem. That's not quite the resolution. I'm going to guess there was probably a 60 amp main. If that. And they probably put 100 amp breaker in. Well thanks guys. Really appreciate it. Good job. Can I add one before you close it out, Daryl. Yes. One thing that I would like everyone to know is because we have the placard hearing, because you order, put it on the demolition list does not mean the city acquires the property. Oh, absolutely. You're right. So many people believe that it becomes ours to do with what we want. And it's not. We will facilitate this transfer of property as much as we can. If they have people that are interested in it, we will do

everything we can to put them in contact with the actual deed holder to get that moving forward, because there are a lot of people that have got a lot of interest in it. There's one particular that's doing a lot of them right now. So one thing I do want to say, Daryl, is, you know, having talked to you and even with your presentation, you know, I may not always want to move as fast as my, my, my, my partner Rick over there, but I do appreciate your sentiment and being accountable to people's lives and, and that safety aspect of that, that, that speaks volumes. And so I can, I may push back sometimes, but I will always conversations are for. Yeah, absolutely. Yep. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. That was helpful. Good stuff. Good stuff. Daryl, how many properties are on the placard hearing next week? You asked me that. I think we're down to 12 or 13, something like that. Oh good. We started with 22 or 23 compared to the 200 we had back in March. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Not everybody shows up. All right. With that said, we'll move to council concerns. Mr. Bertrand, real quickly. You're still in here, right? Yep. I just want to say 18th Street's looking good. I was talking to Brad earlier. If anybody drives by 18th the field services they've done a great job. They got that mobile building down. They got to replan. And again we can't ask the the public to clean up their properties if we can't clean up ours. So as long overdue and great job and I'm looking forward to the finished product. So good job at field services. It's it's great. Already talked about 901 looking down here. We got the homeless shelter coming in. Yes. Scheduled which is good. And then Dolly, I'm going to keep pounding this fact is that again we did our share with the property taxes at this again, kind of got lost in the article. But again residential property

taxes went down 113 113 bucks 100 or 1003.99. We didn't go up on the commercial side. Like I said in the journal, it actually went down 3.99. On our end. The county needs to continue to do their part. That's a conservative board over there. They got to figure out how to lower their levy. The status quo doesn't work for the property taxpayers in the state, in this county. So they need to step up. And more people need to be asking why they can't get their budget under control. It's nonsense. And the Sioux City that showed that that mess they got going over at the Sioux City School board, again, they're sitting on a big surplus that no one is talking about, and it is unrestricted and they can buy down their levy. So again, I just want to make sure that we reiterate reiterate that this council has done their job. I don't know why we're not seeing it because I think it's it's it's anyway. But that's not our job. And let's let's let them keep pushing on it. So again, I want to reiterate that when we start talking about real quick. Talk about Bomgaars, we talked about, I don't think Salazar's in here getting gas yet down at the dock. Anybody know do we have any gas down at the boat dock yet. That's the big thing here. So anyway, other than that I can find out. Please do that. New gravel contracts coming next week. Next week. It's fantastic for the for the hauling. Other than that, it was a great week. Thanks. Greg. I turn very quickly. Mike, I do want to congratulate you. I'm I'm excited. I know you're going to do a great job. As I mentioned earlier, this is not a status quo appointment. We have expressed to you the importance of change and oversight and evaluation and reevaluation, and I'm I am anxious and excited to work with you in your new position. And I know the rest of the council is as well. Appreciate

it. Very quickly. The gospel mission had reached out a couple times and I think it was primarily PD. They wanted to thank you for a couple of quick responses with regard to some graffiti and some other things. Randy and David also were very, very pleased and appreciative. Chamber meeting two weeks ago. They're preparing for the DC trip. I know the mayor and I are going and it looks to be a good agenda, and I'm anxious and excited to be able to to go out to that meeting and work for the city. Downtown partners is is working towards their spring and summer schedule. They have hired a new business liaison person who I believe starts next week. He's extremely impressive, and I think we're going to enjoy working with him in terms of our relationship and what expectations of him. Had a couple people that have reached out to me asking about what the city is doing for the 250th celebration. Some of the questions have tied more to Saturday in the Park. Knowing that Dave Bernstein will have quite an event, and whether we're going to be doing anything in conjunction with or partnership too. So just to reach out to wonder what we're doing with regard to the 250th celebration in July. Mike, I had mentioned to you earlier, the former Lek site really looks good. The contractor that that raised the building and has prepared the site. Marty, they've done a really nice job and I'm really encouraged when we begin to market that property. They've done a nice job. And then, Marty, I just asked you and Renee if because I'm not on the economic development team, if I could find some time to meet with you and Renee, maybe in the next ten days or so to talk about different projects. That's it. Good job, you guys. Now, I also want to congratulate you, Mike, you know, well-deserved and looking forward to being the agents of change and pushing forward and doing what we have

to do. And I've said this before, and I also I just want to thank Sioux City PD and what they're doing, you know, having a business downtown and having dealing with, you know, it's funny, I'm the guy that's very supportive and passionate about, you know, our homeless community and unhoused and those things, but having some issues that have come up that that have truly affected me. I appreciate the response. You know, with Sioux City PD and, and heart and the presence, you know, with that heart team. And so thank you guys for for what you do and continuing to, to, to do, you know, it's, it's, I know Rick said that, you know, he's heard, you know, you can't. And the thing about homelessness is that it's, you know, you just never know when somebody's going to be homeless. And so what that looks like and what that means for community is so vast and big, but I know that we are diligently looking to, to try to clean up and, and just make it a better looking and inviting place for our city and community. And so thank all those that are involved and staff as well. Again, thank you guys for what you do and your response. And so yeah, thank you. Lots of people covered what I was going to say already. I want to congratulate Mike. He knows I've been putting pressure on him a little bit since last year, hoping that he would stay. Consider it. Congratulations. I appreciate you staying on and taking on this new role. And I've already seen positive changes. Appreciate it. Keep going. One thing I want to mention as we continue to roll into this new year, lots of changes happening all the time. We have Earth Day coming up. We're going to be doing cleanup all over the city with volunteers, property owners, just teams of people.

Is positivity. I'd like to see us try to adopt some positivity for our city. You know, everybody's cities around us have things that we all want or we'd like to see happen here. And when we want those things, we're expecting businesses, employers, franchises. I mean, it could be anything to come here and invest perhaps millions of dollars in our community so that we can have something nicer or something that we desire or something that another city has. But if we don't promote our city through our neighbors, through our job, through our social media accounts, if all we do is think and look and talk about anything that's negative, how do we expect someone else to come in, invest in our community? If we're not investing in our community? So I'm not proposing that everyone build a business or start a business or do anything like that, but we can all grab a plastic bag and go out and pick up trash in our neighborhood or along a street side. The city provides these orange bags. Fill it up, drop it on a corner. We'll pick it up. It could be as small as that. It could be as small as mowing your lawn or your neighbor's lawn, or, you know, just being positive. It's not that hard. In fact, it's easier to find something positive than it is to dwell on the negative. So I just want us to think about that. You know, I wrote in an article recently, if you can't be with the one you love, meaning if you can't move to a city that you think is so amazing, you got to love the one you're with. So start loving your community because your community loves you and it will bring more wealth and more

friends and more businesses to our community. It'll help us grow like we want to. I just, I just really want to see some positivity, I really do. So if we could all work on that with that off my soapbox, I'll move to adjourn second. Berenstein a Bertrand Rayford, a Shaner a.