Tourism Advisory Committee - Regular Meeting

All right, so welcome to the Tourism Advisory Committee. It's May 20th at 2pm. I'm going to call this meeting to order at 2.03. Welcome, everybody. We're going to call roll.

Bruce Winston. Linda Weiss. Christy Poole. Keith Chandler. Steve Mercer. Thank you very much.

Okay, review of the minutes. The second one had an opportunity to review the minutes. And if so, or when you do, can I have a motion?

I move that we accept the minutes as presented.

I second. Motion and second. All in favor?

Aye.

All opposed? Okay, thank you very much.

Financial review?

So I have a whole bunch of financial stuff in this report just based on City Hall. processing needs for the council. As we understand, these are all approved by city council already. So I'm just going to point out a few of them for you. Feel free to look through it and let me know if you have any questions about anything. I'm happy to elaborate on it. Almost a quarter of the way down here, we have the shop's map system. That's our movie maps. Sorry, you're starting on the financial reports page. Yeah. Yeah, okay, that one. So the mat system, that's our Moby mats, and what we got, our public works needed some extra hardware for our mats that people are stealing. They're slowly disappearing. But while we got them and decided to get them, we also, I think I told you at a recent meeting that our public works provided feedback on the Oregon Coast Visitors Association's Moby Mat toolkit for people that want it. And they provided really good feedback. And part of their feedback was like, we should be able to alter these a little bit. Like the whole cutout should come sooner and all this stuff. So basically what we did is we bought them the stuff they needed so that they can adapt these to our beach and what we need. And so we got tools, a bunch more spikes for them, more eyelet rings, and more hole cutters so they can put holes in our mats so that they can hopefully prepare and put it out. Nice stuff. So that's what this is, and that's why it's higher than... What vendor name is that under? Deschamps Mat Systems. Oh, okay, there it is. I don't know why.

606350.

Yeah. And Zach told me to put it under Grounds Maintenance, just so that fit better there as far as what it's for. That's a one. one-time payment. I don't expect that to be required.

And we have those two years?

We've had them longer than that. Three years? Yeah. We've had them longer than that. That's not two or three. That's, yeah. And then, you know, we got one and we got another one. And then down a few from there, Moxie Sozo, they built our website. They're doing a bunch of dev development security work for us. I mean, The internet is just a wild west nowadays. And we're getting hit with tons of bots and our events calendars, especially suffering from AI bots. And what happens is that for a while, they were spamming our forms. Kind of got that under control now for about a month. But now they've been crashing the site. It basically uses up 100% of the CPU, and the site goes down for 15 minutes while it reboots up. And I got tired of that happening, so they worked on that. Hasn't happened now for a few weeks, so hopefully that will be a solve for that. If you go down towards the very bottom here, Compass Lane are the city's IT people. They installed a server rack. and some battery backups in the welcome center to keep the city's infrastructure separated from the chamber's infrastructure so that when the chamber, city, IT folks go in there, they don't have to unplug other people's stuff. So hopefully that will be helpful. And then BAM promotional products. These are our beach towels. I'm gonna show them to you because Greg designed these suckers and Don, print event for us. And I showed you the design. But these are, this is what the actual tiles look like. We have 150 of them. And so what we're going to do with these is give them out on Tuesdays. Tuesdays has been historically our slowest days. We're trying to get people in the Welcome Center for one thing, and give people something that they can bring home from their visit. That's kind of a one of a kind keepsake memento. I have beach towels from my trips to Hawaii when I was in high school still at my house. So I'm hoping that's what this becomes. But you'll notice here that this is under... Kids must have been better than mine. I'm talking about when I was a kid. And yes, I was a much better child. I had better control of my stuff than my kids do. You're probably lying dry too, don't you?

I'm probably...

Watch them? No. Right. But so these towels, I mean, typically what we do is we buy t-shirts to give out. This year, we're not going to buy the t-shirts. We're basically using our clothing line item to buy those, and then we're subsidizing it with advertising stuff. It's a problem, basically. We launched it officially this week. It was an interesting experience. Greg, were you planning on talking about this at all? No. Okay. I'll go into it a little bit. So we launched... People either want them or don't want them. We have a huge bit of them. We can use them for a lot of stuff. They're affordable. These are a little more expensive and we don't just want to give them out to everybody. Especially if they're advertising money, they're not intended to go to our friends and our co-workers. That's what they're really for. We have to devise a situation where we can give them out, but they're going to last. What we're going to do is we're going to give them out on Tuesday who are visitors, can't be residents, can't be second homeowners, can't be vacation rental owners, Parties that host, that hosted the pick of their vacation, their favorite way to seaside, whatever that is, it can be anything. And they take it to Seaside for fun, Seaside, Oregon, come into the welcome center on Tuesday and show it to us. We'll give them a beach top. The first five, it's going to take some time for this to catch on because we launched it on Tuesday morning and I was all excited. Jim made this cool video and we had, I made a cool landing page. In fact, I can show you the landing page. And, uh, What happened is Facebook throttled already about it. It was immediately like, oh, these guys are trying to get people off Facebook and go to this page. I don't like that. So they just throttled it. We didn't get, we have 75, almost 76,000 followers on Facebook. It showed it. By the end of the day, it showed it to less than 300 people. And it was just awful.

Do you have any like window flyers to put up for this?

Like I can put a flower in the mall. What we're going to do is kind of step into that. So in the Thursday turnaround this week, we're going to talk about it and ask for help. But yeah, flyers, that's a great idea.

Oh, it's Tuesday and I'm here.

Oh, yeah. That's how we're going to have to catch people. You're exactly right. So it's seaside.org.com beach town. But yeah, you're right. I need to make some flyers. I should make another. That actually is done. Yes. kind of like what I said, you know, there's no wrong way to do this. Beach selfies, half your own sunset, sand castles, rainy day coffee stops, your kids discovering the ocean for the very first time, whatever seaside fun looks like for you or for who you want to see it. Snap it, post it, bring it in. We will give you this beach travel thing. So it's not meant to be too hard, but we need, We need to have some level of barrier, or else we're just going to run out of them immediately. So we have enough supply that should get us into the fall, should be able to go every Tuesday through the summer into the fall.

Is this for more than one month?

This is two reports. OK. So I don't know.

It looks like it's from the beginning of the year, as of April.

Well, that's just through April.

That's everything that we had was through April. Because you're paying the TV stations twice. Paying what? The TV stations twice. So this is for two different ones.

This is for two different ones, right. And if you notice under KGW there on the top, it says February. That's a February bill. Right. And then, like, Aquinas is March. Yeah. So sometimes it's captured in there when it is. If you've been doing this for a while, and I know everyone in here has mostly. This is actually a bit of a fake. This is me faking a report that City Hall used to send to us. And I would just go, OK, here it is. Well, this is me manually typing this in from the City Council thing, just so we have something .. But this is all publicly available in the City Council. packet. They don't do it every month, but when they do do it, I transfer it into this program here. It's there, but it's also hidden amongst all the works.

I love your beach towel. I think it's amazing. Nobody wants another t-shirt.

We're ready for something. I love it. It'll be a slow burn, but we'll get it going. Josh Triplett- On the statement of expenditure side of thing, not a lot of stuff to call out here, but it's looking good at 85% for personnel services, at 83% for materials and services. Advertising is tracking at 84.9%.

Stacie Jenkinson- Josh, I just have one question on this, just because I am new. How many employees does Josh Triplett- Three full time?

And then $64,000 for business in this case?

25 of that was for- That's for the chamber. That's the- Well, no, that's- 25 of that was for fireworks. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, you're right. It's not. It's remember that Zach put in fireworks. HAB-Masyn Moyer- Okay, so yeah I remember the feedback was from this maybe was that's actually not right because it's not business license well now the city council is taking business license out of this completely so it's going to try to.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- Put it in complete.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- they're taking it out of here now. HAB-Masyn Moyer- It will be a separate thing. HAB-Masyn Moyer- And they're going to replace it here with. HAB-Masyn Moyer- It.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- No. I understand where it's coming from, but yeah. Yeah, I know what you're thinking.

OK, I got you. Any more questions about? OK. That's you.

And it's out doing the rotary of this call classic today so i'm here. I don't have a whole lot, but there was a plaque on the back of our big one share the students and. So the new one is back up there, thanks to Matt of Public Works, who actually made the first one. So that was pretty cool that he got to redo it. So it looks brand new. Was it plastic, metal? It's wood. Yeah. Does it have, it's, I don't, is it burnt into wood? It's like, um, Steve's stuff. So laser. And then new in the visitor center, we have the new travel Oregon guide for 2026. Kind of a big deal. It's always nice to have that in there new since we were about to run out of them. And then Ken wanted me to let everyone know that Mondays have picked up for summer. It seems like summer again on Mondays. Tuesday was not the same. slow, actually. And Wednesdays usually really get busy as soon as the farmer's market's open. Yeah, we were really busy Monday.

Yeah. And Saturday, right? Saturday was fairly busy, yeah. When you guys are open, is that coming Monday?

Yeah, it's 10 to 2. Greg, since we have you here, and we typically have Ken, Can you talk a little bit about the social media marketing calendars you put together? Because Ken doesn't really touch on that kind of stuff very often.

So we have this whole thing called Trello that we use to set up social media ahead of time. So I go through and try to do... It's weird. So I'm already working on June, but I'm still figuring out parts of May. So we're finishing off May with hashtags and stuff. But what we do is we set up a story and then a post, usually. So one day a story, next day a post, having to do with the same photos or photo or video. And then we set it up so anyone who is working that day can go on to Trello, grab it, and add it into our social medias. So from Instagram, it automatically goes to Threads and to Facebook. And then we start it. doing video on YouTube and, I guess, Reddit. We're putting Slack things on Reddit now, too.

We had the top three, the number three post on the Oregon coast subreddit yesterday for the beach house. For the beach house, yeah.

So that's pretty good for Reddit. A lot of people are on there. It's very different from the other social medias. I go out and take a lot of photo and video time off, sometimes during work days. But I try to also go online. We have, what's the other program? Oh, CrowdRiff. We go to CrowdRiff to search for photos from user-generated photos. So I always try to add as many of those as I can get permission to use. But a lot of people, they've slowed down with hashtagging their photos, and they slow down with letting you use them as well. So it's interesting. People don't seem as generous with just letting you use their photos unless They're younger. If they're younger, that seems to be pretty good.

Thank you.

I recognize Facebook. That's pretty good. Whatever else you said, I'm sure it's great.

Okay, so look at the stats. Visitor center foot traffic was down in April 14% and down about 14% year to date. Going volume was up. Leads were up. Total distribution were up. We're going to talk a little bit about that in the report. On the web user stuff, because of all the spam bot stuff, I took the sessions out of here, which we And so active web user is much more accurate way to look at it. And our active web users for April were down 10%. Now what happened in April of last year? We launched our website. So that's likely what active users being down is. We're still up 7% on the year, which is good because we had a good year last year. Email signups are way up. And in fact, this year they're up 163, almost 164% year to date. Visitor guide requests are up 9%. in April, but down 18% year to date. Now, that's not, it's funny, every time I do the stats, I think about how data is really meaningless without understanding what it means. But what this really is, we've moved a lot of our leads, our organic leads, off of our pushing people to our forum. Canon puts it into our weekly mailings. So we get like more than 300 a week just from Meadow right now. Abuse for active user continue to be looking good. The Clatsop County lodging stats for STR report down 2.4%. Occupancy March down 0.7. in revenue in March, but we do have bed tax numbers for January through March for Seaside. Hotel bed tax is up 2% year over year. Vacation rental is down 1.5%. Puts us up for the combined for the quarter about 1%. And I do know that at least two properties haven't stayed at their bed tax yet. So it should go up a little bit more on the hotel side. By next.

Any questions about that stuff.

Depending on how your brain works, it could be very boring or very interesting but. Again, I'm always really interested in what the difference means between the volume of things we're doing and the quality of it. So CSUN's travel guide distribution this year so far is strong, with approximately 45,000 of our 100,000 printed magazines distributed already through the end of April. This places 2026 among the strongest early season distribution years in the last decade and ahead of both the last two years at the same point in the year. More importantly, the competition within overall guide distribution has evolved than travel intent. So in previous years, a significant portion of our overall direct guides for our mail distribution came through bulk lead sharing programs, Travel Oregon, Oregon Coast Visitors Association. And compared to background, those leads really are relatively high quality, however, they're Well, because those people are basically saying, I want to go to Oregon, or I want to go to Los Angeles. They're not saying I want to go to Seaside, they're saying I want to go to Oregon. So it's still better than, you know, just kind of background noise, but there's still lower value, lower intent travelers to Seaside than the people who are requesting Seaside planning materials directly from our own marketing channels. So in 2018, just to put this in context, which by the way was 2019 banner years as far as guide order stuff goes. Approximately 14,000 guide requests through April originated from state and regional DMO lead programs. In 2026 that figure is now at approximately 3,700. OCFA has long since discontinued its lead program entirely and tribal organs priorities have shifted over time. So they're very hot and cold. To drive that point home even more, today we got 800 plus, is that right? Yes. Just from travel organ. Just from travel organ. Whereas in the past, it's been like 100, 200. they're doing some marketing around their new guide. So since they sent out direct emails about it, they're getting a ton of orders. And because we are one of the preferred partners, when someone signs up for the Travel Oregon one, there's an option that pops up below it saying, Hey, would you like Seaside's guide? Would you like, you know, Travel Pendleton's guide? Would you like all these things? And we're one of like five, I think they offer. And so we tend to get a bunch of kind of tack on requests. And so we, I mean, Ken was like, what the heck is going on? He opened the leads. You just don't know they're coming. So it's just really hot and cold. Now, over the same period, direct guide requests generated through our own Seaside DMO marketing efforts has grown substantially. So in 2018, again, when there was 14,000 state regional DMO leads, Seaside's generated leads for only 2,800 year to date. In 2026, so this year, that figure is 6,500. So we've grown quite a bit. Those are very high-generate, high-intent leads. Thanks to that growth, overall direct mail fulfillment volume remains strong overall, with 10,180 guides mailed directly to potential visitors to seasides for April this year. In the last decade, only the pre-pandemic years of 2018-2019 exceeded that level for the present state. That shift reflects an evolution in strategy, following the disruption of many traditional tourism distribution methods that existed pre-pandemic. And today, Seaside is in a better position with continuing healthy overall distribution levels and a strong direct audience relationship. These results also continue to demonstrate why we're still doing print guide, whereas a lot of people are. Upcoming dates of note. I need to add one in here. May 24th. will be our first Sunday open. So we were supposed to be open last Sunday, but there was a snap food part-timer didn't get the nest, so we weren't open. So this 24th will be our first Sunday open, we'll be open 10 to 2 on Memorial Day. Like I said, Rose Festival Junior Parade is Saturday, May 30th. Craig will be in the office. Ken and Jen will be going to Junior Parade.

You're going to be passing on the interstates. Yeah. So each time.

Yeah. Maybe. But we got a whole bunch of new stickers from Dawn as well that we'll be handing out. We will be part, again, of the, what's it called, Grace? Generation Station. Yeah. So we took that over from the Blazers three or four years ago now. And so. It's a station where the kids can come get all their flair to go through.

They get streamers and all kinds of fun things attached to their bikes and strollers.

So that is Seaside branded. It's got a big Seaside sign on it. Our guides are there for the parents and stickers.

Since we have a bunch of leftover shirts, we don't have any.

We don't. Um, but, uh, Ken and Jim will walk the parade route for the hour before the parade and, and, and Ken will do his thing and Jim's going to get a motion video for us and they're going to hand, hand out stuff and, uh, kind of make an impact that way. And then during the Rose Festival, actual parade broadcast, we'll have a 60 second commercial. We'll be on our, uh, our shoots from the last advertising photo shoot. I'm just kind of animated for everybody, so it's a good Good 60-second taste of pea side. The farmer's market opens for the season on the 17th. And I got soccer in the sand.

OK. You're all in the old business?

Yeah. OK. So I have some grant stuff. So let's first do a couple, just tying up, Grant's from last year. So the chamber had the track final reports of you which I'll put up on the screen for everyone in a minute. But before we do that, let's look at the final report kind of just for your information for the For the tsunami skippers, they said they sent in the report so Oh, So there's, not a ton of information there, but there's some good stuff.

Did they catch Brad on that?

Yeah, I brought it. Yeah. Yeah. So my call-outs from the results is they had the most ever competitors, 157 this year. Last year was 142. Two teams from Washington, two from Idaho, one from Montana. To my knowledge, everyone stayed in Seaside from the 23rd to the 26th of April, dined and shopped. The fact that we were a two-day tournament is why we can draw these teams in and create a long-term

I smell something wrong. Oh.

Okay, so this is the report for the trash receptacle art campaign completion. So one exciting thing is that every can has been accounted for. So before we started the project, the city had emptied all those garbage cans, of course, all the time, but they didn't actually know where they all were. They didn't have a map that accounted for them all. public works didn't. And so Robin Monteiro, as she spearheaded this project, went around and identified every one of the cans. There are 116 cans that have the doors on them. Most of those are the city's doors. Then we had a couple of doors that were at Sunset Empire Parks and Rec that happened to be their cans, but they had the same kind of doors. And so we thought that they were the city's. Anyway, it turns out that they weren't. But Robin has mapped all of those cans and the ones that do not have the same doors, the ones that are just round and aggregates. Each of these, this is an interactive map, actually. Anybody can access them at any time through our website or through a QR code that is on every trash can that we have beautified. When you scan that, it comes to this interactive map, and you can find the can that you're in front of or any of the other cans. And so next slide, please. Thank you. Again, these QR codes are on each of the trash cans. Robin has each of the trash cans kind of separated out with the iconography based on their location. And so the ones with the blue bike signs are the proms, and there's the Carousel Mall area, and the Gilbert District area, etc. So when you scan that, when you scan the QR code on each can, it leads you to the art piece itself, which is what you're seeing on the left-hand side. and then also the artist and the name of the art piece. There is also an additional option now where you can upload selfies with your trash can, the trash can, all the trash cans. You can upload selfies.

If you bring it out on a Tuesday, you get a beach towel. There you go. What are those little brown house-shaped things around the parking lot?

Brown house shape? That's probably the convention center parking lot. They're convention center cans.

OK. parking cans.

Got it. Yeah. Okay. Next. Okay. So phase one, this was before we asked for any money for it, but phase one, we completed and on October 16th of 2025 with our 44 can installation, it was 40 pieces of art with a few of those being diptychs and triptychs. And so total 44 cans for the initial installation. And the total for that total cost of that was $5,605. Okay. And then, next slide, briefly. Oh yes, yes, ta-da! This was the first installation. A few of the pieces of the first installation. Can't believe it's only been since October. Right?

It's like you really get used to things, and you're like, oh, it's always been now.

Yeah. So phase two, we completed phase two on April 27th with an additional 71 can installation for a total of 115 out of the 116 cans identified that we can beautify. I think three of those were at Sunset Empire Parks and Rec. And then the one that has not been beautified is at Parkland Franklin. Help me out, folks. I found you. Oh, Cartwright? Cartwright, thank you. There's one in Cartwright that is not unified. The Cartwright part? We do, but it's going to have a very special installation of something that is significant to the tribe. Okay. And so that is something that Robin is continuing to work on and will happen soon. And then, so the cost of that, $7,636 for the 71 cans. And of course, TAC contributed $6,800 to that. So we appreciate that contribution. So that helped get it done. We did have a dedication. And so 20 of the 50 artists that featured joined us, which was great. And yeah, it was just, The weather broke, which was great. We had sun that day, and it was fabulous. So I just gave a launch, and what you can't see is that Lou, who's featured on that leftmost garbage can, was also there. He's not one of the artists on the cans, but he is an artist on the can. Anyway, so he was there, too, which was kind of fun to see him. And Greg was there, too, right? And Greg was there. Greg is an artist on the cans, so yeah. Yep. And so these are a few more images from the second installation.

That's it. Thank you for the support. Did you say there was a couple of bands that are owned by Sunset? Yeah. And so are you not able to do them? We did those also.

They're okay with you?

Yeah.

Yeah, and we encourage everybody to look for Sasquatch. as soon as it can, and it has Sasquatch on it. It is packed away, so you have to explore.

This is named Waldo, we're in structure.

Yeah, exactly.

Thank you, Sadie. Okay, so we have one grant application to review today. It's piled up right there for everyone in a hard copy, so if you don't have it, please grab it. But before we get into that, I did want to say we actually have six pending grant applications at this point. 18,000 in the events grant, 9,600 in the arts grant. They've started. We don't have a complete application, so we can't review it yet. It represents the PBL tournaments. Nicholas Matsakis, A woman from Northern California that submitted for a mural and vital art. She didn't have a location. So, so I kind of require a location, you know, so Nicholas Matsakis, The Jazz Festival disc golf course up on the hill on our adventures have all become applications, but we don't have actually the one we do have is the bridge term I do appreciate the bridge tournament being very thorough and submitting a complete application right off the bat and doing it in a timely manner. So I will say that should have been great to work with. Asking for $3,000 to support this event. I don't want to get in the middle of it too much, but my The event has a hospitality budget that is not meeting like the needs of their constituents or something. And so they're not getting things like enough meals and coffee and things like that. And so that's what they're hoping the grant would cover. Dates are September 28th through October 4th. Tournament was profitable in 2025. However, less profitable than in previous years and these profits must help cover District 20 expenses for the year.

No. We have never received it. No.

How much do we have left?

HAB-Masyn Moyer- yeah 25,000 in both. HAB-Masyn Moyer- This is the first time the very first. HAB-Masyn Moyer- But this is an event. HAB-Masyn Moyer- Right. HAB-Masyn Moyer- 18,000 already in pending. HAB-Masyn Moyer- And they haven't no one's finished, you know, so I can't put it forth. HAB-Danny Teodorucci- 18,000.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- If you add up the ones that have started and not finished it you're already. Well, I don't want to talk bad about this event because I like the people from here. I think it's great for them. And it's been coming here 60 years. So it's not a new event. My name is intended to be a startup to get them going. They're already going really well. And I know it looks like they took a $20,000 bid last year from what they normally do. But their budget this year shows a $20,000 profit. It's struggling. Although last year, there could be a lot of reasons why they only made $12,733.

I think if there was an aim for growth, that might be something where I'd be more likely to be like, give them the $3,000. If they're advertising, if they're trying to get it out there, if they're trying to grow this thing by another 20% over the next three years, then that'd be exciting.

Or if they're Something that's going away. That's not going to be here in the future anyway. That stuff's going to perish because there probably aren't as many bridge players as there used to be. Does that make sense?

Yes. What are you trying to say?

They're old.

They're going to play D&D. Yeah.

Now, if we had a D&D tournament that wanted to get going, that might be better. But they've been doing it 60 years, and they're showing a $20,000 profit without our help. Yeah. You know, there's a lot of businesses that make a profit that wouldn't come to us for help, and that's kind of why I look at this as angry. But, you know, let's not talk bad about it. These are great.

Two things can be true at once. It can be not a great fit for this grant, but also be a great event.

Exactly. They're showing a $20,000 profit in the projection. I know they're worried because they took such a big drop last year. They still need $12,000 last year. Is our $3,000 going to make a difference one way or the other? I don't know.

As you said, it has been an established event. looking for assistance for lodging. I'm not so sure that that is the direction we want to go anyway. I mean, I feel like we're starting up new events. We don't always fund that part of it anyway. I mean, I would rather see it like what we saw with the jump rope thing, where it was more put into the actual event than that part of it, I guess, for me.

It's perfect for the people to come down here because they want to serve. It's kind of, is that what they're saying?

Well, I mean, they just asked, they're saying that. But again, I feel like, you know, we have other events that seem to be limited to that. Based on just that.

You know what the hotel credits are listed in their income? It's over $5,000 in hotel credits.

So that's people, and that's what I'm saying, because, like, I often put bridge... you know, a discount. So I'm like, so now, not only am I going to give you the discount, but we're going to help pay for it.

But they're showing that as income.

Yeah.

So how is it discounted? Probably in kind. Because like, so like for me, so it's like, are they getting the rooms and then charging the people more for it? How does it show as income then?

Because like for me, it's a buy one, get one. So you stay the first night, you pay in the second night, three or vice versa.

It was shown as an income on the balance sheet.

Unless it's against the director of hotel expense.

Maybe. It would be that much higher. I don't know. Good question.

They're probably using that for, like, tournament referees and stuff.

It's like a director of hotel, director per diem, director of transportation. Yes.

Yes, it's kind of like the same thing we have with fur dancing. Some of the other ones that have been around a long time still have.

There's also companies, like we've been approached for volleyball by a company that wants to sell packages, and basically they buy the hotel rooms and then sell them to the participants, and then ultimately give us a kickback, but they're taking a portion too. And so, I mean, I don't know that that's what's happening right now, but it's potential they could be working with. It's unlikely to decide to do that, but you don't know.

Oh, I'm not looking at kickbacks. I mean, I just never thought of that. Yeah, right. It is weird. I was confused too while you were showing it on there. Right. HAB-Masyn Moyer- figure it out today, or can we wait to see if we should probably get an answer.

HAB-Masyn Moyer- yeah I mean you're going to sign up to do it, or you can decide to wait on it with feedback about certain questions that you have, or you could say i'm waiting to see what else comes in, I don't know but it's kind of a few guys. HAB-Masyn Moyer- When it's the deadline into all the. December 4th. Oh, and their tournament's in October. And they're not going to be in front of it that long.

Yeah.

So it could be. There was laughter.

It's also not going to a local organization. But again, this bridge tournament's on in October. It's usually a week. So that is a lot of people that play. Yeah. So...

And I always, we are busier. I mean, it does bring people in. I'm always a little surprised. Yeah, yeah.

I know it does help a lot of the restaurants. I won't lie about that.

In the mall, they come into the mall and they help my, they help some of my, not the arcade, but they almost like the leather store.

They're not doing Loser Town.

But you know what, they're,

They're helping other stores that aren't as busy. Right. Families don't. The families don't visit a lot.

Yeah. Yeah. They're buying like the leather goods, the leather store and sweatshirt. They probably pack things up. Yes, they do. I see that there's a recommendation. Yeah.

It's on board. Oh, yeah.

That's always a great mention.

Between, between, uh,

I mean, yeah, they did many hours. I guess I'm going to recuse myself.

It's an interesting point, though, because it actually brings up one of the bigger issues they're having is the lack of coffee. And my mind immediately says, well, maybe they could strike a deal with a local business to get coffee. However, there is a contract about that.

Well, there's four. So... I guess they don't really want to pay for the coffee. Right, exactly. That's why they want their hospital. Nobody wants to pay for anything, but yeah. I pay for a lot of coffee. I like coffee because you get free refills usually. Best bang for your buck.

So I'm hearing no or wait. So do you guys want to?

I guess if they were asking for, if they were saying, like Keith was saying, like this might not happen if we can't get this, right? It's not like coffee is a requirement for playing bridge, although I probably would have it. It might be. Maybe so. Maybe something stronger. But if they said, you know, we could use the fees to subsidize the convention, less expensive venue and be like okay well this this absolutely we want to keep them here they need that fee for the convention center okay but not for paying not for for paying for um uh usables consumables but even in that situation the fee from the convention center

That business is run through the same bed tax that's paying for this. So it's almost like maybe the convention center, they could negotiate or try to negotiate a lower fee instead of taking some of our grant funds. You know what I mean? If that's important to the city, I don't know.

I guess just the funds used for something like that, where it was infrastructure or trying to get more people to come or putting more beds in beds, but that's not technically what it's for. People are not going to not come to the Bridge Tournament because the coffee is not available all day.

So it's $10,400 for the Conferences Center. So the expense. I mean, they're there for a lot of days. And then the hospitality.

local unit that 35 seconds per table.

yeah. Sir.

Right now they're only spending $400 on advertising. I don't know. I guess I am a fan of the attendees coming, especially for that time, but I just don't know that that $3,000 is going to pay off for...

additional visitors to Seaside.

The very first meeting I went to, I saw a whole bunch of people. I didn't want to find them. So I feel the same way about this.

I guess, yeah, I just don't feel like this is changing.

I've been pissing off people for years.

I've been pissing off people for years. I think there's a budget that could be reduced. I've been pissing people off since.

Does anyone disagree with you? Exactly.

I don't know why they can't even budget enough for lunch.

They should know how many people are there, you know? How much the lunch costs.

Well, and also, like, to pay into the tournament. Okay, so I actually didn't see how many people it was, but to pay into the tournament, they're saying lunch is included with the tournament?

I mean, yeah, they could make that. I know. They just pay them.

HAB-Jacques Juilland- I know why. HAB-Jacques Juilland- Oh yeah, I said, I think it's a great event. HAB-Jacques Juilland- But I don't think I think they're doing well enough that we don't they don't need her are out right.

HAB-Jacques Juilland- Again. HAB-Jacques Juilland- I have any updates on our side. HAB-Jacques Juilland- Are we going to probably going to need to keep it on your. I mean, we could, if you want to monitor it. It's pronounced this way.

I did see that they installed the fire sign. I did.

Yeah, because when I'm going home, it covers up our sign.

Yeah, it does. Yeah. I'm not just kidding. I recorded.

I know. This is just a discussion. So at the Oregon Governor's Conference on Tourism, our partners that we use for leads and our email platform, they did a new promotion or I guess I would call it where they're doing a new thing where they're basically making these posters. They're trying to kind of work with DMOs to like sell these posters. And they're pretty cool posters. I'll show it to you. It's hard for us because what they're set up to do is to be a source of revenue for the DMO. So I could see it being popular for certain chambers that run welcome centers or things like that because they have these artists who make these posters and then you can order them on demand. For us, that doesn't really work. We don't sell things or really want to be in the business of selling things. However, because we work with them on the email platform and we work with them on the leads processing, they use Seaside for a bunch of their spec work. And so it's worth seeing. I mean, they're pretty cool. We actually got a bunch of their posters they sent over to us. But I just want to open up a discussion, just in case you see a place where this could fit in Seaside. OK, so this Seaside poster, obviously, it's a little Yeah, there's steps. Not quite, not quite right. But you know, it's just, this is, again, spec work. Where are the beans? There we go. It was Carousel Mall one.

Oh, that's cute.

It is cute. It reminds me of, like, 1980s posters or something.

Wow. I would love the aquarium to be there. It would be like...

What's the $115 option? It's a sizing thing. Pick your size and make it pretty large. They're really nice work. It's just I don't know how to make this work in our visitor center other than we could buy some and give them out. They're not priced for that really.

You don't sell anything here?

We don't sell anything.

You're not set up.

Nor do we want. You should see the look on people's faces when they walk up. They're like, how much for this? Everything's free. What? Then they go back and grab 16 more things.

When we do the beach discovery program, it's like they're afraid to go out on the beach because they don't want to trip. That was free. What do you mean?

We're extremely lucky to be in a position of working with Well, not only being a city department, but working with Travel Oregon to subsidize the stuff we have that we can offer everything free. I don't want to change that. But this is still a cool thing. And so I just thought I would throw it out there in case anyone here had any ideas or wanted to stew about how we might do it. One thing that did occur to me as a possibility is that we could work a cover of our magazine in the future year. And then we could have posters that people could get of it, variation on that possibility. But yeah, I don't know. It was just kind of a fun thing. And it was just cool to see all the seaside stuff that just came of their own, sort of a love for the seaside. Now for discussion, but if no one has anything either, that's fair.

i'm definitely the wrong person to ask because i just i wouldn't be a purchaser of that what if that was on a garbage can i mean well that's worth my money for the 34 by 40 or whatever yeah really big garbage yeah yeah well well feel free to call me or email me or if something pops continue

I want to buy them. I want to get them and sell them. They're cool. They're cool.

So you could, if you wanted to buy them, you could resell them. Yeah. A carousel might, yeah.

Well, that was my question to them, too, is, like, can we get a wholesale price? Like, what is a wholesale price to get these? I haven't got that answer yet, so I'm not sure.

And not just not the carousel, but the seaside, the pool ones. That could be something. You can mix up with your cows to hand out on Tuesdays.

Yeah, they're cool. Yeah, it's just the price point.

Yeah, they're spendy though.

I mean, that's more like, I think will be more like for a shop. Yeah.

Well, and that's kind of also why I wanted to bring it up in case like, well, maybe should I put shop owners in touch with these guys? They want to sell these. I don't know.

I'm sure.

I always loved the TWA posters from the 60s and stuff. I think doing something like that would be kind of cool, like a TWA.

What's TWA?

Remember that airline?

Oh, okay. I thought it stood for something. I know what the airline was.

They, for a long time, produced these amazing travel posters. And they're just... With the airplane.

Right.

I have the San Francisco one. This one right here. I just love this old style. I think I'm doing like a retro style, but with like a specifically modern, you know, seaside with things that can be identified nowadays. But just making this style would be really kind.

Do you know what happened to that company that did the posters that were drawn in the maps? They were drawn. They had advertisements on them. There's one at Baker's store still that they have.

Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. We have a frame one. We have a frame one. That one's a puzzle?

Well, there were some that were puzzles. Yeah.

But yeah, I know you mentioned that.

We didn't pitch that from time to time. I mean, I think maybe five years ago or something, we got pitched on it. And I brought it in here. And you guys were like, yeah. The report's an interesting one for that.

Can you email me a link to this if I could buy directions? I don't want to buy a bunch, but I think it'd be kind of fun to frame them all the same and hang them in the mall in some of my You know, it's an artwork. All this stuff around seaside. I got some bare walls. And I got some walls.

And then I'll reach out to Chase when he runs that company and just give him a heads up, like, if it's possible to get, again, like, wholesaling price. Yeah, I can see you thinking about it.

Because I could see that. See, like, what their vision is, like, selling this. They've clearly had success elsewhere. No, no, it's just started.

Oh, they haven't done it before. Yeah, and they were hoping that Seaside would be one of their first things. But again, we're just not set up for it from the DMO side, really. And they're really set up to be a revenue source within like a

chamber wall and center. Yeah. I feel like, like you said, people want me to buy something at the visitor center.

Although almost every week from through the wall, I hear how much are these postcards? Yeah. Like, yeah. A lot. How much are the postcards? How much are the postcards?

Yeah. Yeah. Made from a DMO or a traction or a logging property.

Yes.

So. Yeah, I think that that local fish house is up all streets. It's good to see it.

These are just, again, these are just spec work. They have them for sale, but they will custom make you something if you want. They have a whole group of artists. I think this woman who did this one is Ukrainian. I can't remember this guy's from overseas. Definitely never seen C7. Is it just like on Fiverr? No, the guy who runs this is a really interesting guy. And he came out of the art world before he got into tourism. And so it's through his contacts.

If the sun sets, they were in trouble.

It's not a sunset. It's the atomic blast.

It could be the blast, yeah. The next thing, there's more of them up in the room. Nice.

Okay, well, just let me know, Allison. Yeah.

Okay. Any comments?

Yeah, one. I don't know if you guys are aware of seal something. That's what I've been getting.

We're not talking like Florence-type exploding.

No, not that. The population explodes. Not little seals popping in the air. So you'll be getting calls on seal funds. Leave them alone. Let us know.

You guys go out and set up cones?

It's signs. Signs that aren't real obvious. No big orange flashing lights. Just things that people may not see when they're going by.

And all the government know all right call this meeting adjourn at 306 record.

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