Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

I call this meeting of the Seaside Planning Commission to order. Please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

All right. Can we get roll call, please, Debbie? Present.

Vice Chair Mitchell. Present. Commissioner Hoffman.

Here.

Commissioner Klesik.

Here.

Commissioner Montero. Here. And Commissioner

Thank you. First item on the agenda, approval of minutes. As we did not have a quorum on May 5, we do need to have a motion to approve the minutes first from April 7. And then I will ask for a motion to approve the minutes from May 5, 2026. Are there any corrections, deletions, or additions to the draft minutes of April 7, 2026?

I'd like to make a correction to April 7th, or a clarification. The way that the minutes are set up, it has discussion of the draft comprehensive plan, and then underneath there it says planning commission and other agency comments, and it says there were none. Is that one planning commission comments on the discussion? Because there were multiple, there were many.

No, it was two separate things.

okay so then i think that it needs to say more than that 3j consulting went over the draft comprehensive plan updates because we had lengthy discussion okay about the the comprehensive plan draft got it thank you any other corrections

um all right so please let the previous minutes reflect these changes all in favor to approve minutes as such say aye aye aye opposed carried are there any corrections deletions or additions to the draft minutes for may 5th 2026. I DO HAVE ONE. SECTION 7 IN THE MINUTES TALKS SECTION 7 IN THE MINUTES TALKS ABOUT HOUSING CODE UPDATES. ABOUT HOUSING CODE UPDATES. HOWEVER, AFTER DISCUSSION WITH HOWEVER, AFTER DISCUSSION WITH DIRECTOR FLORY, SHOULD HAVE SAID DIRECTOR FLORY, SHOULD HAVE SAID COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DISCUSSION COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DISCUSSION WILL BE CARRIED ON TO JUNE 2. WILL BE CARRIED ON TO JUNE 2. ARE THERE ANY OTHER CORRECTIONS?

ARE THERE ANY OTHER CORRECTIONS? CAN WE CLARIFY THAT

Yeah, on section seven on the previous minutes, it says that the discussion for the housing code will take place on June 2nd, right here. Yes. And it shouldn't say housing code update. It should say comprehensive plan. Carries to this meeting. We're not having the housing code dates on this meeting.

Correct, but that item is the housing code discussion item. So there was no setting of the date for the housing code, just to clarify. And then there was just a setting up in the carryover of the comprehensive plan was a different, is not part of that item.

We'll clarify that tonight's meeting is about the comprehensive plan, not the housing code update, and ensure the minutes reflect that. what was actually said at the meeting. We'll review the video and correct it.

Thank you. Thank you. Are there any other corrections? Please let the previous minutes reflect these changes. All in favor to approve the minutes as such, say aye. Aye. The minutes for May 5 are approved with changes. WELCOME, EVERYONE. THIS IS THE TIME AND PLACE DUALLY ADVERTISED FOR THE SEASIDE PLANNING COMMISSION TO HOLD ITS MONTHLY MEETING. AGENDA ITEMS CAN BE INITIATED BY THE GENERAL PUBLIC, ANY LEGAL PROPERTY OWNER, SEASIDE CITY COUNCIL, CITY STAFF, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION. DOES ANYONE PRESENT FEEL THAT THE COMMISSION LACKS THE AUTHORITY TO HEAR ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA? Hearing none, conflict of interest declaration. It is standard procedure for members of the commission to visit the sites to be dealt with at these meetings. Do any commissioners wish to declare ex parte contact or declare and explain any conflict of interest?

I did visit the site for 76926-000017PLNG on holiday.

Thank you. Commissioner, anybody else? All right. Public hearing. The following public hearing requirements apply to the items on our agenda. The applicable criteria for the hearing items are listed in the staff reports prepared for this hearing. Testimony and evidence shall be directed toward the applicable criteria listed in the staff report or other criteria in the plan or land use regulation which you believe applies to the decision. Failure to raise an issue accompanied by statements or evidence sufficient to afford the decision maker and parties an opportunity to respond to the issue precludes appeal to the Land Use Board of Appeals on that issue. The applicant will testify first, followed by any others in favor of the request, and then any in opposition will testify. Then the applicant will be given time for rebuttal. For testimony, we will hear from the in-person attendees followed by electronic attendees. When the time comes to hear from members of the public attending electronically, there will be a feature in the new attendee view that allows you to electronically raise your hand by clicking on the control panel at the bottom of your screen. Phone attendees can raise their hand by pressing star nine. You will then be placed into a queue, and when your time comes to speak, you will be unmuted and can address the commission. Our moderator of the comments, Debbie Kenyon, will monitor this area and let us know when citizens that virtually raise their hand are ready to make comments via Zoom or by phone. Background noise must be kept to a minimum while testifying, or your testimony will be ended early. Prior to testifying, please state your full name and your address for the record.

Public hearing items.

We have public hearing item 769-26-000017-PLNG. The applicant, Ben Meyer of Low Key Properties LLC, is asking for conditional approval to develop an apartment building on the vacant lot. I'll now call on planning director to provide the staff report.

Thank you, Chair Kraft. As you said, this is a conditional use application for development of a four-unit apartment building on South Holiday Drive near Avenue E. This is adjacent to the church and an old hotel that was at some point converted to residential use to the north there. The applicants provided a basic site plan, shows the parking availability for the units. They're parked at two spaces per unit, which meets our code requirements. Each unit is proposed to be three bedroom units, more of a family style as opposed to what we've seen recently with a lot of one bedrooms and two bedrooms. These are larger units. Staff's provided the approval criteria, recommended findings, and recommended conditions for this development. One item of note is the proposed condition eight requiring fencing to shield the parking area from the residential use to the north but as this commission has discussed previously with similar applications for similar developments on this this specific area fencing was CONDITIONED ON OTHER PROJECTS TO PROTECT THE STREAM BANK AND PROTECT THE RESIDENTS FROM POTENTIALLY INADVERTENTLY GOING OVER THE STREAM BANK OR YOUNGER CHILDREN THAT MIGHT POSSIBLY LIVE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT. AGAIN, I'LL EMPHASIZE THIS IS A THREE-BEDROOM, THESE ARE ALL THREE-BEDROOM UNITS, SO THE CHANCES OF FAMILIES RENTING THESE ARE HIGHLY LIKELY. With that, there are seven conditions recommended with one condition eight proposed with the fencing that the Commission can discuss and make a determination on. The standard condition of minor modifications is number one. Two, we'll want a detailed stormwater plan for Public Works to review. There are parking lot standards that need to be met. Condition three will ensure that that four inch curb and the parking spaces are four and a half feet from the property line. A lighting plan to ensure that the lighting proposed for the development meets the city's lighting ordinances. Bicycle parking will need to be shown on the final development plans and the setback off the mean higher high water line Well, the applicants provided 20 feet 25 feet is is appropriate for what the the code says and then a trash enclosure will need that to be Site obscured as well. So it's not visible from the public right away with that I'll turn it over to the Commission and the applicants to discuss the finer points and details of the project

THANK YOU. AT THIS TIME, WILL THE AT THIS TIME, WILL THE APPLICANTS PLEASE COME FORWARD AND APPLICANTS PLEASE COME FORWARD AND HAVE A SEAT. HAVE A SEAT. IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND TEST IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND TEST YOUR MICS AROUND, PLEASE. YOUR MICS AROUND, PLEASE. IS THE LIGHT ON? IS THE LIGHT ON? NO. NO. GO AHEAD AND PRESS THE BUTTON. GO AHEAD AND PRESS THE BUTTON.

ONE OF THEM DOESN'T WORK. ONE OF THEM DOESN'T WORK.

GO AHEAD AND TEST IT ONE MORE GO AHEAD AND TEST IT ONE MORE TIME. WE WILL HAND YOU A MOBILE MIC. THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, BOTH OF YOU.

BEN MEYER, 89120 ARROWHEAD ROAD, HORNTON, OREGON.

JEREMY CARO, 1320 PARK LANE, GEARHART, OREGON. THEN AT THIS TIME, TELL US ABOUT THIS REQUEST.

WE ARE REQUESTING TO GO RESIDENTIAL ON THE PROPERTY. We want to bring, like you guys have said, more of a family housing rather than apartments. It's going on like crazy around here. We're looking at four residential units. That's all I really, really got for you.

Anything?

All right. Go ahead and stay seated. Is there anyone here that would like to speak in support of this application? Is there anyone here that would like to speak in opposition of this application? Okay, then you guys can remain seated and this is your opportunity to respond to any questions or comments that were made by the public. Was there anybody online?

Demi?

No, there's not. Okay, so now we'll open it up for discussion with the commissioners. Ms. Montero.

Well, hello. Okay, I do have a couple questions. Jeff outlined all the conditions that pertain to this application. But I see that you are proposing a snappy fire pit, yes?

Yeah, the architect put it on there. Whether it happens, it may or may not. But most likely it's going to be just rock or grass or something.

Okay, and the reason I ask, now you only have four apartments, correct?

Correct.

So will there be on-site property management 24-7?

There will not, no.

There will not, okay. And Jeff mentioned the condition eight regarding the fence, certainly the west side. where the the water is um i'm curious uh the power pole um in looking at your um site plan it uh it's somewhat unclear as to where the the actual driveway is is that on the north side coming off a holiday yes it'll be to the north because that gives us 26 feet for fire truck and all the access we need Okay, and then what about that power pole out there? Does that interrupt? In looking at the photograph and driving by, it looks like that power pole is right there at that north end, so that's why I'm asking.

Correct. Originally, we were going to have the parking on the north, but that power pole is in the way from the south property line to the power pole. It does not give us 26 feet for the access for a fire truck that we need. So we moved it to the north. The north has 26 to almost 27 feet. That gives us enough for what we need when we talk to the fire chief, as he said.

So the power pole is not going to be an issue is what you're saying?

As of right now, it has no issue with driving and fire truck access.

OK, wonderful. Let's see. And you've already got the water and sewer. Let's see. Just a general note, when we have projects come to the commission like this, I would like to see elevation drawings. Giving a site plan is just not enough information. I would like to have elevation drawings.

They're in the truck if you want them.

Well, we need to all be able to share them.

They just finished drawing today.

Okay. Are there any discussions, or maybe that actually is in the picture, of a crosswalk across Holiday?

For us to have any? I believe there, isn't there one right there at G? Yeah.

Is that a crosswalk?

Which is just on the other side of the church, I believe. OK. Where G Street meets Holiday. I believe there's a crosswalk there.

Yeah.

OK. All righty. It actually looks like there's one on E right here. Well, that's what I was referring to.

That little left-hand corner? That's it. OK. And I'm sure I'll have more, but I will turn over to the next person, please.

All right.

Mr. Hopman?

thank you chair craft the only thing that i i do agree with the fencing on both sides uh for security is this is multi-family and they'll presumably be kids and stuff uh it looks like that there are um patios yes on the back yeah correct and are those going to be private or accessible by

The plan is right now to be private, so they'll be fenced off. Each one will have their own backyard completely fenced for dogs, kids, whatever.

And I do agree with fencing on the riverside.

Now, when you guys say fencing, are you talking about just at the backyard to the house, or are you talking about fencing off the river?

I think fencing off the river.

With a gate's okay, though?

Do they need access to the river?

No, but I might. No, that's fine. That offense is understandable completely.

Thank you. That's all I have. Ms. Klesak?

it's like the planning director knows the questions I'm gonna ask ahead of time so the I appreciate the need for the bicycle parking and for the fencing I also would just like to clarify something that was brought up because I didn't see the that there was going to be fencing around each individual backyard and so if we if that is part of the plan and because i don't see that written in here and there's that's not illustrated in in any way that i can say you know that's part of the plan um if there's fencing individually around of each individual's back then i am okay with not requiring a fence along that property line on that side um is it the i think it's the south property line because the north is the entrance in am i seeing this correctly yes yes correct south is where you'd have each individual yard no north would be the yards if you can see there kind of in the back there's a door that enters a covered patio and then there's 10 feet to the hotel or whatever it is now okay and then so the dotted area because this is different than what it's not the same as what we're looking at um so the dotted area is the concrete sidewalk or the gravel sidewalk

I can show you.

So this is north here and then these is a covered area and then this will be a 10 foot to the property line and then there'll be a fence, fence, fence. So that is 10 foot of backyard plus the covered area. And then this is the south which will have a walkway to each door.

Everybody parks there and then the rivers here the main walkway accessing the units has to be concrete and this shows a gravel path on the north side for fire departments Access if need be and the concrete will be the south side So the fire department access will be within the fenced in Visual yards this site plan didn't show the fencing so before any fencing is is proposed individually that discussion needs to be had with the fire marshal and

Okay, so, I mean, hence my confusion.

Yeah, and also this is very preliminary. Also with what you guys are going to require. It looks like it's more advanced than what we have in our packet.

Gotcha. So, yeah, I mean, how that is handled will determine fencing requirements for the whole property because if an individual yard fence is able to happen... per fire marshal, then it would be redundant to put a whole nother fence along the edge. But he was saying that would be completely enclosing, which would mean that each one would have a horizontal section as well.

Correct, yeah.

So that's where I'm wanting to get some solidified information about whether that's happening so that we know how to require fencing.

That's the plan. If fire changes that, then we're all on board on putting a fence along the river and keeping that secluded. Not only will it help for children, but keep the homeless from going back there as well.

Well, my concern with the river is twofold, is for safety for families and families. younger family members, those that may trip and fall, of whatever age, so that they're protected from going down the embankment, but also so that we're delineating the line of where you are not allowed to be and not allowed to mow or cut or disturb the riparian zone there. dual purpose fence i don't think i had any other everything else was covered in the recommendations just so i'm clear how do you want that condition to read for fencing let's hash that out so that we're all on the same page So I want to say that I appreciate the desire to have a fire pit on the west side and what part of that purpose would be to be able to see the river. So I don't think I would like us to require a fence that you can see through so people can still enjoy the river without being able to without physically being able to accidentally into that area.

Are you, when I was talking about the fence, I was referring to the furthest west edge. Are you referring to something separating the fire pit from the further east towards the property as well? So a fenced in fire pit, is that what you're getting at?

no that's not what i was looking at but i clear that i think that that would be their option i wouldn't think that we need to require that but to me we do need to require a fence along the furthest west yes absolutely yeah and because the fire pit is going to be there so that people can sit at the fire pit and see the river

Appreciate that.

Yeah, I would like us to be able to allow a fence that you can visually see Oh a cyclone fence like we did for others.

I mean, I don't think yeah, there's other options other than other options But I aren't you referring to? Should fire code not allow those vertical fences in between then a northern fence would be required across a property line east to west and

That's up to you guys. If the intent's to protect the riparian area and keep children out of the river, then you're going to want to fence that regardless. Regardless of the backyard. The backyard fencing, that needs to be addressed by the fire department before any decisions are made on that. We're not going to allow fire access to be blocked.

Right. So if the fire department does not allow the north-south divisions in fencing, then I personally would like to see a west-to-east northern fence all the way across. Agreed. So does that help you craft your statement?

West-to-east northern. So on the northern property?

On the northern property. There is one there. There is one there?

And just also so the commission's aware too, the code does require a site obstruction fence to separate parking lots from residential uses. So that northern property line out to Holiday is gonna need at least five foot, if not up to no more than six foot site obstruction fence to block the parking area from the existing residential uses. However, if the commission wants to extend that fence down to the west, to the top of the riverbank, and then across south, across the top of the riverbank, that's completely within your scope as well.

And I would say just for clarification, if there's a fence already on the property, but it's not part of your property and it's not on your property line, it's still your responsibility to provide a fence there. If the planning commission decides that they want to require a fence, if that's somebody else's fence there, that doesn't cover it.

Gotcha. So just to just to let's look at the proposed condition that I wrote. Let's see if that covers what The commission is thinking here and I'll read it so the public at large can hear it too. The applicant is required to provide fencing on the north and south property lines as well as along the top of the bank to protect the sensitive riparian area and adjacent properties. The site obstruction fence at least five feet but no more than six feet in height is required to separate the parking lot from the adjacent residential uses.

Is that, I mean, to me, I just want to make sure that it's clear that we're requiring the site obstruction. Only in the parking lot. Specifically on the parking lot. But the others could be, you know.

Yep, that's clear.

Anything else? From you, Kathy? Nope, I'm good. Mr. Mitchell?

No questions.

I HAD A CLARIFICATION AND I THINK I READ IT WRONG THE FIRST TIME. ON PAGE 11, SECTION 4.126, IT SAYS REQUIRED PARKING AND LOADING SPACES FINDING C3 ZONE DOES NOT DESIGNATE REQUIRED YARD AREAS UNLESS ABUTTED RESIDENTIAL ZONES, ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL ZONES. The applicant site does not border any residential zone. And then right below that, it says the applicant property borders a residential use on the northern property boundary. Just for clarification, that was permitted for residential use. It was not rezoned or is not a zone, correct?

Well, I won't say it's permitted. It's an old hotel that's probably an existing nonconforming use that was at some point converted to a residential use. There's the nuances in the language, residential use versus residential zone. All those properties along Holiday are zoned C3, general commercial, same as the applicant property. So there's no residential zone there. There are residential uses along there, though, that may be permitted. They may be existing nonconforming that were either permitted prior to an ordinance enactment or not permitted at all, but happened so long ago there was no regulation in place at the time.

Okay, thank you.

I just- I did that as well. I had to read it back over. I'm like, wait, what?

There's nuance in the language there. And then just because my grammar brain went crazy, on page 12, there is a formatting error. So as we're referencing this along, NUMBERING GETS MESSED UP STARTING WITH THE SECTION THAT STATES GROUPS OF FIVE OR MORE AND SECTION 8 IS ALSO MISSING SO JUST NEEDS TO LOOK AT THE NUMBERING ON THAT THAT WAY IT CAN BE PROPERLY REFERENCED BACK TO OUTSIDE OF THAT I HAD NO OTHER QUESTIONS I DID HEAR DIRECTOR'S FLORY STATEMENT WHEN I WATCHED THE LAST MEETING ABOUT HAVING I BELIEVE IT WAS THAT OR EITHER THAT OR THE PHONE CALL WE HAD ABOUT NEEDING MORE THREE BEDROOM APARTMENT HOMES SO I CAN APPRECIATE THAT POINT AS WELL. ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION?

I RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF 769-2600017 PLNG WITH THE CONDITIONS AS OUTLINED BY PLANNING DIRECTOR FLORY AND UPDATED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

I'LL SECOND.

So clarification, that was a motion. Councilor, sorry, Commissioner Monteiro, second. We'll now open it up for further discussion. Anything else? Okay, all in favor of the motion, say aye.

Aye. Okay, congratulations.

Thank you. Appreciate it. Sorry for the wait. No worries.

All right. Okay, so we have public hearing item 769-26-000030-PLNG, comprehensive plan and zoning map. So the city of Seaside is proposing the adoption of a new comprehensive plan and a new digital GIS zoning map to modernize the city's planning framework and guide future growth and development. The rest of tonight's meeting is dedicated to civil discourse, public comment, and questions for clarification and conversation. After the introduction of the presenters, we will open up for public comment. You want to?

Yeah. Thank you, Chair. Hang on. What was that? Can I just put it?

Mm-hmm. just so you're aware on the staff report for this dated May 17th it reads seven six nine two six dash zero zero zero zero one seven the same as the previous application so I just so anybody can change for our next staff report for the next meeting great just enough okay

All right, I'm going to jump in really quick with the staff report. So there are specific criteria to implement and enact a change in our zoning map comprehensive plan. There are review criteria in the ordinance or in the staff report. There's findings that the commission will eventually be asked to review and adopt or change. And then From there, we'll discuss, we have a couple of options tonight. The options have slightly changed since the staff report was written based on feedback provided to us by the Department of Land Conservation and Development. So staff is recommending the commission keep the record open and continue the public hearing until the July 7th, 2026 Planning Commission meeting. As of right now, this will be our only agenda item for that meeting. And again, it'll be the regular time, 6 p.m. here. So staff's recommending we'll listen to our consultant, Scott Fregonesse from 3J. OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE'LL HOLD THE PUBLIC OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE'LL HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE'LL HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN TO THAT JULY MEETING AND HAVE HEARING OPEN TO THAT JULY MEETING AND HAVE HEARING OPEN TO THAT JULY MEETING AND HAVE DELIBERATIONS AND ACCEPT FEEDBACK DELIBERATIONS AND ACCEPT FEEDBACK DELIBERATIONS AND ACCEPT FEEDBACK ALL THE WAY UP TO AND THROUGH ALL THE WAY UP TO AND THROUGH ALL THE WAY UP TO AND THROUGH THAT MEETING. THAT MEETING. THAT MEETING. WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO

Great. Thank you, Jeff. Thank you chair and commissioners for having me tonight and allowing me to do this remotely. My son had some baseball earlier today, so I'm a little bit red from the sun, but I appreciate being able to do it virtually. I think this is an exciting time for the entire community and myself because got a lot of work into this. It's a really big deal to update your plan. A lot of cities have have very outdated comp plans. And hopefully once we get through this process, we'll all be proud to be one of the cities that have a new, fresh, usable comp plan that really sets the direction for the future of Seaside. So the next one, the next slide is just, you know, it's all about the comp plan. I just wanted to remind you all that We did a lot of community outreach over the last couple of years, and this was really important to the development of this plan. So just a quick reminder there. The other thing I'd mention is a lot of these slides you've seen before, but I do want to go through them again because I like to repeat this because there may be people that are viewing this meeting for the first time. So a lot of community outreach. We actually will have a part of the one of the deliverables is kind of reflection. A memo on the outreach that will kind of be left for the city on what we think we did well, what we think we could have done better, and really what influenced the plan. Next one, please. So we started with the vision statement. This was really important because this kind of sets the tone for the comp plan. The vision is the introduction to the comp plan. It had six key elements, housing, strong economy, nature in the city, inclusive neighborhoods, accessibility and safety, and history and culture. So those were kind of the overarching themes of the vision statement that really flow throughout the entire chapter, all the chapters of the comp plan. After this was developed, after the vision, we moved into the next slide, which really lists all those chapters. So we have 10 chapters. I've mentioned this before, but there's 19 statewide planning goals. and your comprehensive plan is required to meet all the requirements of each of those planning goals. Now there's not 19 chapters because some of these goals are lumped together. For example, in the coastal resources preservation one, that's a couple of different goals. There's also a couple of goals that are not pertinent to seaside like the Willamette Valley Greenway. So that's why there's 10 versus 19. Next please. Kind of already talked about this, but I think one of the biggest things in terms of the ability for staff and the citizens and developers and anyone who wants to use a new zoning and comprehensive map is that this is now updated. And I think I've talked about this a lot, but this will be provided in the GIS format. People can move around, zoom in, turn on different layers. And this has been, this took a lot of work to update. It was months and months of work working with the county and with the state to make sure that we were accurate. And there were some ordinances that were adopted, but were never really reflected in the zoning or in comp plan map. So we made sure that that's all up to date now.

scott i'm going to jump in really quick just yeah please just so you're aware we've got about now 30 to 40 people in the room um okay to hear our presentation tonight and uh i want to reiterate that we did not change the zoning of of properties um everything that we've done to create this zoning map is is to update previous zoning maps the city has had where property owners have requested zone changes and BEEN GRANTED THOSE BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL HOWEVER THEY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN CORRECTLY REFLECTED BEFORE THIS THIS MAP COMBINES THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS INTO ONE SOLIDIFIED MAP THAT WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE STATE TO ACKNOWLEDGE FOR CLATSEP COUNTY TO HAVE AND FOR US TO USE AS OUR PRELIMINARY ZONING MAP and only zoning map for for the city but again we did not change zoning on properties the notice that the public received uses language is required by state law but the the zoning of your property is is not being changed

Thank you, Jeff. Very good clarification. And if there is any other clarification that needs to be made, please jump in or raise your hand and let me know as I'm going through this. It's a pretty brief presentation. I wanted to leave time for any questions. Next one. I just wanted to mention that we did do part of the review process was reaching out to a lot of different stakeholder and groups that were influential in the plan that will be needing to use it. So from you all, the planning commission, city staff, county staff, Department of Land Conservation and Development, Oregon Shores, Surf Rider Foundation, Chinook Indian Nation, Mechanicum Watershed Council. So we really tried to do our best as we were developing this plan to share it with these groups to get input because these policies are really something that everyone has to deal with. So I think that was that tended to be something that really was successful because it helps build support for the plan. And I think that it was a very good strategy and it really helped us actually hone in on making better policies that worked for everyone. So now I want to talk a little bit about comp plan adoption, which is really where we are tonight. This is our first public hearing. It's the first formal process in adopting this new comp plan for the community. Next please. Put together this timeline. So this is probably, you know, we are now in June, July. I probably should have kicked this out, but I think now we're going to be moving into August, September. But we will have another, at least one more planning commission hearing and then probably a work session with the city council and then move into formal adoption hearings with the city council after June. if the planning commission is moved to make a recommendation at the next meeting on the 7th. I mentioned this at the last meeting, but we now have live, I think it went live today, our last kind of big public involvement feedback loop. And what we've done is we've done an online survey. This is kind of the welcome page. So if you go to seaside2050.com, you'll get to this landing page, and you can look at the survey link, and it will take you to this introduction page, which talks to you Talks to you about, you know, this is how we did the comp plan and this is how we need your input as a link to those Oregon statewide planning goals. And then also links to the chapters as well of the comp plan. So and this is just a little example of how they look. So this is a goal statement two, which talks about prioritizing access to engagement opportunities for all seaside residents by encouraging the benefits and impacts of growth and shared equity. equity and systematic inequities considered. So basically we list the policies. We let people say, are these, is these goals and policies on the right track? Yes or no. And then we have an area for each of the people who are taking the survey to be able to type in an open ended comment, whether, whether they can, if they say, yes, we're on the right track, they can say, I think you're on the track because of this. or if they say no you're on the right track it's because they might say you missed this or you you need to address this issue too so i'm hoping that we get you know a lot of people to weigh on this because you know this is the time when we can share these results to you uh as a planning commission and ultimately to the council when they they get to weigh in on on the formal adoption next one I just wanted to highlight this. This was the policy tracker sheet. We call it the policy matrix. I mentioned this the last meeting. Unfortunately, I don't think you had it in your hands during the last meeting, but it's since been sent out. What it does on the left is it lists all of your goals and policies that were in the existing comp plan. In the middle, you have kind of a color-coded action, which is to keep, modify, add, or remove. So you'll see that some of these policies were either irrelevant or the city had already done them, and so they were no longer necessary to have in the plan. If they were good but just needed some brushing up and modifying, we were able to do that too. There were some that were missing that just needed to be added. And some were just fine and were not changed at all. So this is a great tool when you're going through because it's kind of like a cheat sheet to the comp plan because it has all of the policies for each of the components. plan chapters in it. One other thing I'd like you to note is that things in red are policies that were updated or added or modified based on the comments that we got at the March Planning Commission meeting. So hopefully you'll be able to take a look through to those and make sure that we address them properly as we heard in the meeting. And what we'll do with this revision tracker is as we move forward and if we do hear that we need to make some further changes between now and next meeting and between now and the recommendation to go to council, we can track them. So it's really nice to see how these change as we move through adoption. So I really encourage you all to use that as a tool. And so in terms of how the planning commission can help, I think I've already mentioned this, but provide feedback by commenting on the plan. You've already done that. I'm sure you'll continue to do that, and I would encourage you to do that. You know, general comments and guidance, or, you know, I think one of the other cool things is we got some comments about, oh, there's a typo here. There's an image that's duplicated that needs to be taken out or replaced. So those are all helpful comments as well. And I think, you know, the next thing is you can do is move into formal adoption with a public hearing, which we're doing tonight and the next meeting. And then once we get to council, we'd love to have you be there to support the plan and answer any questions about how you help shape the plan. The other thing I would say is we asked the same of the steering committee. to kind of help when we get to adoption to come and say, hey, I was on a steering committee for two years, we worked through this, we had many meetings and this is what we did and this is how we got there. Because it's not just, you know, it's not a consultant plan, it's not our plan, it's the plan that was developed through the committee and through the community. Next one. I just wanted to put this in here. I don't want to read the whole thing, but Jeff mentioned this a minute ago. We did what's called the post-acknowledgement plan amendment. And all that really is, is it's noticing the state or DLCD, Department of Land Conservation and Development, that, hey, we're making amendments to our comp plan and our zoning map and our comprehensive map. And we want to make sure that the state's OK with this. They need to say, yeah, you did it right. So we're and we've been in that process. They have been given. We posted that and they are now having their experts review it. So we got this email from them basically saying they would love for you all to consider Keeping this record open and keeping this hearing open for another month so that they have time to continue their review and provide feedback for us. The other advantage is that you all have time to do that as well as the community through the survey. I wasn't too shocked to see this. I was actually happy that they're supporting that we started the adoption process. and that they were requesting some more time because it's a big plan. They have areas of expertise within the DLCD that each of those people need to review those specific chapters, the coastal folks, the urbanization folks, transportation people. So it really is important to make sure that they all take a look at that. They did get a chance to review this back in November. So I want to highlight that, that this isn't the first time we've been working with them. We sent the very first draft that came out in November to them to help review. So it's been interesting working with them and having them help make sure that we're compliant with state law. That's really key. And I think that's the last slide. No, I got another one, a couple more. Just next steps. I already talked about the community survey that went live today. Next steps are these public hearings at the Planning Commission, so tonight and on the 7th of next month. And then we will schedule a council work session before going into council public hearings, which will probably be two public hearings at that level as well. And that's the end of my presentation for this evening.

Scott, I'll just reiterate real quick for the folks that are new to the process and new to this project. Don't feel like you have to make your comment tonight. If you want more time to review, there's going to be additional public hearings. We are required by our ordinance to have at least one public hearing with the city council. And as I've recommended to the commission to review, keep this public hearing open until the july meeting that'll give another opportunity in july for in-person public comments and of course while the record's open we'll always take written comments of of any kind if anybody wants to spend time to review it and write a comment that goes to the commission it'll go to the city council as well as we go through this adoption process

Yeah, thank you. And I think, honestly, really the best way to do it would be use that survey because that'll really let you hone in on the pieces that, and it helps us keep that feedback organized. So, I mean, there's lots of ways you can provide that feedback, but that's really the reason we set up that survey was to have kind of a streamlined way to gather that feedback. So thanks, Jeff, for clarifying that.

Yeah, and the survey is live on seaside2050.com. That's the website. The comprehensive plans there, the old comprehensive plans there, if you want to see what the city was focusing on back in the 60s, 50s, we've got that information there as well.

I have a question about the survey. So when people fill out the survey, are the results that they are inputting immediately available to see someplace?

I don't have access that goes to 3J.

Yeah, not publicly. We can look at them as they come in, and we will provide a final report on the survey. Typically, they're anonymous, but we will have statistics and graphs and all that fun stuff and all the comment logs, which is actually the most valuable part.

So for the purposes of a public hearing, those need to, if they're to be used as part of the public hearing, they need to be public.

They're part of the record. They'll be part of the record, not necessarily part of the hearing. But the record will remain open.

So if people want to make comments that are part of the public hearing, they cannot use the survey as that tool.

This is true. If you want to make comment.

Just want to make sure we're clear with our people that are here.

That's but but Jeff is correct to that they will all be we will that report will be put in the record as we move forward so at the next meeting will pull those survey results and we'll share them with you. And we can share them publicly to.

Great. DO WE NEED TO DISCUSS THE CONTINUATION OF THIS 277 NOW CONTINUATION OF THIS 277 NOW BEFORE WE OPEN IT OR AFTER?

BEFORE WE OPEN IT OR AFTER? GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. HEARING. DON'T CLOSE THE HEARING. DON'T CLOSE THE HEARING. LEAVE IT OPEN AND YOU CAN HAVE

Great. At this time, we open this portion of the meeting for public comment. When you come up to the mic, please state your name and address for the record. And as there are many individuals that would like to speak and give comment, we must limit each person to three minutes. Please remember, we are only discussing topics pertaining to the comprehensive plan. So at this time, do we have any volunteers? We have one.

We have a sign-up sheet over there that people signed up on.

Hi, my name is Barbara Fox. I live at 3127 Bayview Terrace Seaside in the Cove. And I live in house number two that was built in 1948. And we have drainage issues. And I know there's some vacant land that's out toward Tillamook Headmore up in that area. on your thing that shows that it could be developed. And I just want to make sure, because there's drainage issues here and there's drainage issues up in this hill over here, on one of the statements on your page, I think 24, I'm not quite sure because I didn't get a copy tonight, but it says that in the planning for drainage that it would be by the city works person in charge of streets or an engineer, not saying that the City Works person is not capable of doing that right now, he's awfully bright guy, but we're talking a 20 year plan, 24 year plan, that I really think more specifically of having a drainage engineer on board to rectify, because any hardscape that goes up creates water, creates water through the environment, through our streets, through our homes, through our basements, and I'm really concerned about the property value there. So I just want the Planning Commission to be aware that I don't agree with that one statement on that plan.

Thank you. Okay, next. Again, please state your name and address for the record.

It's Derek Hamilton. I live at 440 Avenue I. Thank you. My first comment would be, do you know your map is wrong? Avenue Franklin is not a drivable street from Avenue G past that, and you have it as a whole street going all the way to Avenue K, and that's not true because the city does nothing to maintain it at all. It's a grass path past a condo that to an overgrown part behind another condo to the part by my property where it was gravel at some point in the history, but there's two giant trees there. And then after you cross I, you couldn't drive more than like 50 feet past that. So that's my first comment is your map is completely wrong on that. My question is, I keep getting a letter saying that something you're gonna do may devalue my property, but cannot find any information anywhere As to what that might be at all. And I'm aware the city owns that strip of property in front of my house. That's not my question, but there's no way to find out what it is. You send me a letter that says I might not be able to do certain things and that my property may be devalued, but there's no answer at all, which is very, very frustrating. And I don't even know how to find that. That's it.

Thank you.

I can address that if you'd like. The language in the letter that property owners received is very specific and provided by the state of Oregon. We have to put that in there and I know it comes off as there's rights being taken away or potentially taken away with a comprehensive plan update with zoning code updates with zone changes, that is a potential, yes. However, with this particular project, we are bringing our comprehensive plan into compliance with state law. So the sections in the comprehensive plan that pertain to your property may not pertain to other properties. So there's no way for us to determine what exactly could potentially be part of your property in this plan. The best way to find out is to call our office and we can talk about your property specifically.

so either myself or debbie will will be happy to answer those questions thank you but and just to clarify this plan is not a rezoning plan

That's correct. There's no properties being rezoned, and there are no, at this time, there are no ordinance updates being contemplated by the commission or the city council.

And the plan doesn't change the urban growth boundary?

It does not change the urban growth boundary, no.

And there are some maps that I have seen that show that there's a street there. Those are just placeholders for streets that could be there.

There is a platted street there. Whether the street is developed or not? there's lots of places around town where we have platted roads that have never been developed. And that's just how the original subdivisions were laid out. So those are dedicated rights of way that the public can access, whether they're developed or not. And this particular section happens to be a non-developed platted street. Thank you.

Next. My name's William Donilon. I live at 2350 Ocean Vista Drive. We are a little concerned that we may be losing our rights to a second lot that we've been paying taxes on since 2012 when we bought the property. I don't know if you're familiar. We live right next to the tides, right on the ocean side. So we have one lot where our home is on, but then there's another lot that we're not allowed to erect any structures on. But we have kind of maintained it, cleaned it, and we have neighbors to the south of us, quite a few of them, that have put a little fence and have put a... a lawn, basically level it off and, you know, they play croquet on it, whatever. And now we just heard from, I heard from my wife and I heard from a neighbor that this is not, the zoning is going to be changed and that little length there goes from like maybe the tides down to the cove where the parking lot is there. So then we were we we first started beginning a little concerned about this when Last year we didn't get a tax statement for this second lot and and I was been reading this plan and there seems like You're communicating with Clatsop County too and they have I guess they have a zoning map or something because I and when we first moved there we spoke with the Clatsop County Assessor's office and they They're the ones that told us that we could build a fence and have a lawn there, and we've seen a lot of our neighbors do it, and we're planning on doing it too. But now we're a little concerned that maybe this is not an option anymore for us to do.

So I guess that's all I have to say. I'll address that. If you have questions about your specific property, you're going to have to call our office. So we have all of our tools available to look them up.

My neighbors are also concerned they weren't able to come.

Certainly give us a call and we will work it out and try to figure out specifically.

Are you aware of what I'm talking about?

I'm not aware, and I'm not aware of the vacant lot that you're discussing either, but I'm certainly willing to look it up. I'm certainly willing to look it up and see what the situation is particular to those properties.

Can I make just a quick request regarding the AV? Instead of having the thank you screen up there, can we have the actual person be more visible than the thank you screen? Having been online lots, that makes a big difference. When you either can see us or somebody else rather than a big slide.

See if I can make that happen.

Press the two arrows in the upper right. There you go. Okay, perfect.

Okay.

And then I do want to make a statement real quick that when we started this process or when it first came and was, you know, being discussed, I know that the discussion also, Jeff, was how many different versions THE ZONING MAP DID YOU HAVE AT THE OFFICE? THE ZONING MAP DID YOU HAVE AT THE OFFICE? YOU HAD LIKE THREE OR FOUR, YOU HAD LIKE THREE OR FOUR, CORRECT?

CORRECT? WE HAD WHAT DLCD HAD. WE HAD WHAT DLCD HAD. WE HAD WHAT CLATSUM COUNTY HAD WE HAD WHAT CLATSUM COUNTY HAD AND WE HAD WHAT SEASIDE HAD. AND WE HAD WHAT SEASIDE HAD. WE HAD THREE SEPARATE ENTITIES WE HAD THREE SEPARATE ENTITIES WITH THREE DIFFERENT MAPS WITH THREE DIFFERENT MAPS THAT WE CONSOLIDATED USING THAT WE CONSOLIDATED USING WHAT SCOTT MENTIONED IS THE WHAT SCOTT MENTIONED IS THE PAPA PROCESS THROUGH DLCD. PAPA PROC And that is the clearinghouse and the database for all of that information as it happens live for every city and county. So utilizing the resources at DLCD, we were able to compile what the official zoning map is. And that's what's being proposed here. And all of those zone changes were all zone changes that were initiated by the property owner or the original zone changes from when our zoning map was first acknowledged. Okay.

Thank you. Okay, next, I think you had your hand up. Yeah.

Chris Holtz, 420 Avenue I. I think you've already done this to some extent, but if you could again clarify just for me what the difference between the comprehensive plan and the ordinances and what changes to policies and goals are different than changes to actual rules in the ordinance and are all of those things available on that 2050 site?

Yeah, so the comprehensive plan is the overarching document that guides the development of the city. It speaks to the 19 statewide planning goals or statewide planning laws and how cities are required, the framework in which cities are required to operate. So while our comprehensive plan isn't specifically a hard and fast rule, it is a guiding document that will ultimately lead to ordinance changes. in the zoning ordinance so right now we have a zoning ordinance that are the hard and fast rules of how property is developed and land is used within the city the comprehensive plan depending on those goals and policies can lead to ordinance changes Um, and for the specifics of which policies have been modified or altered, uh, if you go to seaside 2050.com, there is the, uh, the matrix that Scott showed us that shows all of the land use policies and what has been modified, changed, or kept the same within the, within the plan. Again, right now, there are no zoning ordinance changes being proposed. And until the plan is adopted, there will be operating under our current ordinance. Once the plan is adopted, then a new ordinance zoning code will be worked on to enact the policies. in that comprehensive plan. And Scott, go ahead and jump in if I missed anything here.

No, that was great. I really appreciate that, Jeff. That was a good explanation. The other thing I was going to say is that it isn't an ordinance. So you have ordinance that are hard and fast rules, as you said, but when making land use decisions at the city level, staff and planning commission, as you know, use findings, right? And if you were present at the previous application for the conditional use, staff had findings in there. And some of those findings come from the comp plan, particularly housing. And those findings need to support the proposed land use application. So there's both the ordinance and the comprehensive plan that do guide that development and the growth of the city.

Does that answer your question, Chris?

Yeah, I just wanted to clarify that we're not changing actual specific rules about what you can do with your property at this point. We're changing more the goals and the policies and trying to bring them into... That's correct. That's correct, yes. Thank you. At the time, and I will clarify, at the time those rules are changed, you property owners will receive another letter.

with the same type of language, because that's required by state law, and it'll list which rules specifically, or which sections of the ordinance are being modified. Thank you. Go ahead.

I feel Christine Minkey, 2085 Cooper Drive. I'm trying to make sense of the map. I'm new to this, so I haven't been at the planning meetings. And I had some confusion about R2, which is medium density PD plan development. And I believe I saw another map that said R2 PD going to R3 PD. So I'm a little bit confused. It sounds like there will be some areas on the dotted map map that will be increased in density. I'm curious how you decide what will be increased and what kinds of increases and when or how would I learn about that? It's not my property. I'm just curious because it is close to my property and there's not a lot of good roads for a high density. So I'm just looking at it from trying to make sense of the plan, kind of being new to it.

Sure. So I'll address the R2 PD first. Planned developments are a carve out in our development code that allows for certain requirements that the city can ask for from a developer by giving certain concessions. And sometimes it's we would like to build a new city park. So developer, you dedicate an acre and a half and we'll allow you to build to instead of a 15 foot or 20 foot front yard setback, will allow a 15 foot setback so it's a way for the planning commission to facilitate some public benefit with a developer where there's a mutual agreement that the developer can get certain concessions and it's it's in our zoning code if you read the plan development ordinance very specific things on which the planning commission can grant exceptions to and one of them is dwelling in a density for certain amounts of open space the planning commission can grant a density bonus of 20 percent Now nothing in this particular code update or comprehensive plan update is changing density. The Commission is discussing housing laws that we have to be in compliance with, so we are looking at housing code updates that potentially could change density, but that's not specific to this particular hearing, and that's a project that's being worked on right now that just started within the last two months.

So in question about that, then how would we participate in that aspect, which is where I'm most interested.

Sure. If you sign up for alerts on the City of Seaside's webpage, the agendas and the packets for all the Planning Commission meetings will come right to your email address, and you'll see what's on the agenda and if they're having those discussions on housing code updates. Scott, do we have a housing code update scheduled? I don't think we have. I think you guys are working on the code audit right now.

yeah we don't have one scheduled but that i would encourage you to be present at those and actually our planning commission here serves as our steering committee for that zoning code review and it's specific to housing only yep and that was discussed last month's planning commission so if you go onto youtube and find the planning commission meeting video you can actually see the discussion that was had surrounding that from the last meeting

OK, next.

Go ahead.

I'm Sharon Johnson at 1940 Cooper Drive, Seaside, Oregon. I just wanted clarification on how the community at this point, we are in the process, can provide comments or I know we do the survey on Seaside 2015. Where are we in terms of, OK, today and then July 7, we have that meeting. And then is there any other time frame where we have to give comments or attend things or anything like that to have it valid and included?

I'll go ahead Jeff so the the if the Commission chooses tonight they can leave the record open and continue the public hearing to July 7th which will allow for additional comments to be submitted once the Planning Commission closes their public hearing they will deliberate and make a recommendation to the City Council to approve the comprehensive plan by our code the City Council required to hold at least one public hearing of their own for this this project to move forward so there will be other opportunities at the City Council level to provide feedback ultimately the Planning Commission is not the deciding body on this they're making a recommendation to the council based on the work that they've done the work that the steering committee's done to bring this plan to fruition uh ultimately the city council will be the the decision maker on whether we adopt the comp plan and what form it is the city council could grab the plan and say yeah you know what but we're going to make changes here here here and here and that's within their purview to be able to do that which is why they also are required to hold public hearing to accept feedback on any changes or anything that they might they might make

So is this the one public hearing?

No. There will be at least one more public hearing with the City Council. And if the Planning Commission continues this public hearing until the next meeting, it's the same public hearing, but there will be more opportunity for public feedback at the July 7 meeting here at the Commission.

Is there a date that it's done by?

No, we do not have a set date because we don't know once the planning commission makes their final recommendation to the city council. We don't know how long the city council is going to want to look at this. They could do the same thing. They could open a public hearing and hold it open to accept as much more public comment as they feel necessary to make a decision on the project. And Scott, do you have anything you want to add to that?

Yeah, that was perfect. But I do want to reiterate that, you know, And I appreciate the desire to give us more input. That's really important, especially if you're new to the process. Maybe you didn't hear about this, but we have thousands of comments and thousands, you know, from large public meetings that we've held. We did a map exercise. So I just want to reiterate that it's been really important for us to try and reach out the best we can and gather as much input as we can over the past two years. And there's no reason to cut that short. So continue giving us your input.

Thank you.

Go ahead.

My name is , I am living in 2350 Ocean Vista. My husband mentioned a little bit about our situation, but I think that he mentioned about very fundamental situation, but my presentation is about my safety and my every night situation because This is the land where our house is located. Our house was built in 1923, very old. Small house in a big lot, relatively speaking. The house is very close to the small stone wall, close to the small stone wall, which means small stone wall is located probably at the TV. I can see the screen. The height is TV screen, that height. Behind the small one down stone wall, that is a vegetarian green space, which means toward the ocean, By tax law, we paid the tax very little. And when we bought the house, we were told that that is our lot, we have to maintain, we cannot build anything. But we can put that fence, which means now I am moving into the retirement age, I want to put the fence because often at night, I can see a man standing over there looking at me. This is my safety, my privacy. I need fence, which means if we want to increase public accessibility to the space and green space to the ocean, 100% I support that. At the same time, I am talking about my individual safety, which means I need a fence. I need to fence behind the small stone wall in the text rock so I can protect my night, so I can sleep better at night. Thank you.

Thank you. And again, on individual properties, please do reach out to Director Flory, and he would definitely be able to give you some much more definitive answers on those specific questions.

I'll add too, if the survey is not for you, we accept public comments. You can drop them off at our office. Debbie will be happy to take them from you. You can email them to us at publiccomment at cityofseaside.us. You can bring them here to City Hall. Whatever method you'd like to submit them, we will accept them. The easiest way is through the survey so that it's compiled for us and our commission to be able to look at, but we will take public comments in any form. So don't feel like you have to use the survey if you're not comfortable with it.

Anybody else?

Hi there.

My name is Sue Coddington, 2152 Cedar Street, Seaside. I'm trying to decipher this map. And I'm just kind of curious. I really don't know what I'm talking about. And so I'm about to get a better education in the next month. But I mean, things like Sunset Pool, the library, they are in R2. But that is considered some sort of low density whatever this thing says in small print that I really could use a magnifying glass to read better. So is there any, I know you said there is no change that's proposed at this time. So I'm kind of curious for, you know, like my church is in R2. Does that, I mean, R2 versus A2 versus AF versus LW, I am working through figuring it out, but is there any threat to change that designation because those aren't homes?

There are many different uses allowed in different zones. You need to review the zoning ordinance under R2 to see if they are an allowed use or not allowed use. And in a lot of cases, we have non-conforming uses, which are uses that were permitted at one time, but they were permitted years before we had any regulations in place. Those are allowed to continue in the exact same way that they are. And again, if it's specific to specific properties, you've got to call our office because we've got to do the research to be able to look into exactly the circumstances surrounding that specific property. It's not a one size fits all.

It kind of sounds like we should all show up at your office and say, give me a picture.

Well, I can't look at the specific property and say, this is what's going on when I don't have all the paper files that exist because I can't bring them down here. So if you have a specific question about a specific property, please email us or call us.

And that map is digital and available online. So you could email Jeff and say, can you send me the link app? Thank you.

And you can zoom in.

And then you can zoom in so you can read the legend and that'll help you when you refer to the legend.

The map is on seaside2050.com. That's the landing page for it.

Say that again. Seaside what?

2050.com.

Got it. Thank you. Next.

Okay. Is there anybody else online? It doesn't look like it. It looks just like Scott and us. Okay. So at this time, it has been recommended that we leave the public comment open at least through the next meeting on the 7th of July. Do we need a motion for that or is that just a consensus?

I move to continue the hearing through the next meeting.

And we have a motion. Do I have a second?

Second. Will public comment open? Second.

OK. And we have a motion and a second. Up for further discussion on leaving public comment open?

want to make sure that everybody knows that this means that you can continue to make public comment whether that is via the microphone at the next meeting or sending an email via the public comment public hearing it is a special toggle for public hearing input or public comment at city of seaside.us

But if you send me an email and it says I want this to be a part of the record It will be a part of the record and it'll get sent to all of the Planning commissioners and we get them printed out and sent an email.

This is a piece of public comment So it is still open IN PUBLIC COMMENT IN GENERAL ISN'T LIKE TODAY I REALLY APPRECIATED THE FLEXIBILITY IN THAT WE WERE TAKING QUESTIONS INSTEAD OF JUST PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE NORMALLY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR A HEARING IS JUST HEARING WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY GET TO RESPOND. SO REALLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO GIVE US YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. SORRY.

THAT'S FINE. OKAY. SO ALL IN FAVOR? aye aye aye okay it will remain open through the 7th of july and good okay all right um on ordinance administration uh Director Flory did reach out to myself and Vice Chair Mitchell that due to this meeting and its potential length tonight, whether we wanted to move the conditions of approval discussion to another meeting. And is there anybody that is in for or against this?

It's not on the agenda, so I think that it's great that it's not on the agenda.

Correct, yes, but it still needed to be discussed because originally it was going to be on the agenda. Okay.

all right um next comments from the city staff just uh just one thing for me um as you noticed when i sent out the packets to the commission this time i put a poll in there uh please grab that and fill it out as soon as possible um commissioner klizek unlike what your email said you were first to submit so if i if there's a way to set that up so that it actually gives feedback to the people that are get you know responding because

I was like, if I can't find it in writing, it doesn't exist. It happened so long ago. I was like, did I respond? Didn't I respond? There was no trail or breadcrumbs to follow. So if there's a way to set that up, that would be fantastic.

It was my first time using it. I'll play with it some more and see how it works. But we need to know, more importantly, that you're going to be here either in person or virtually, or you're not going to be here. So we ensure we have a quorum.

i'm very happy that was the first time because i was apparently the only one that did not respond to it so great thank you for that clarification um okay okay comments from the commission nothing from me thank you nothing from me thank you i was curious if we're going to have any more discussion of uh changes in the um in that tracking sheet

it's it's it's your show you're welcome to have the discussions however you want and that would take place probably during deliberations and uh you know you're you're welcome to discuss this for as long a period as you want i mean we've been working on this for a long time we want to get it right so i don't want to i don't want the commission to feel like you guys are rushed to push this through so if you if you feel like more discussion needs to be had then certainly do that all right then i'll address that next time

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME YOU TO WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME YOU TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THAT IS YOUR FIRST OFFICIAL THAT IS YOUR FIRST OFFICIAL MEETING, CORRECT?

MEETING, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT.

I APPRECIATE IT. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.

I just want to say I really appreciate everybody being here. I think I kind of rambled on because it really is my thing to get the public engaged and involved and I really love seeing everybody here and hope that you will lend your voices to this process. I'm excited that we're in the middle of it and we're going to be, you know, digging in and people's comments are really provide us Some guideposts and some things to look at and I took notes the entire time you guys were talking So even though it was questions, they'll lead to looking at things.

So, thank you And then I believe just one since we have a room full of people tomorrow night at 7 p.m. Is the discussion about 101 and Broadway and what? is potentially planned for that correct and

Yeah, there'll be an open house with the options presented for the 101 Broadway interchange or intersection update.

So I would encourage you, if you can, to be out for that. And then again, July 7th is the next meeting. Everybody will be notified. As far as additional comments, thank you all for coming. And please, again, as we've said over and over tonight, please make your voice, have your voice be heard, whether through this forum or online as well. And I have nothing else. Going once, going twice. All right. This meeting is adjourned.