Commissioners - Regular Meeting

This morning, I just want to briefly recap several of the ongoing topics and concerns that I brought before the board in prior meetings. And I respectfully ask that any comments or response, of course, be held until after my full three minutes are completed. First, regarding the accessibility to public meetings, has there been any movement towards allowing remote public participation through Zoom or Microsoft Teams? Many residents cannot physically attend meetings due to work transportation, disability, and age. Public access should evolve with the technology. Second, regarding county board appointments and transparency. I previously addressed a complete list of, requested a complete list of the board's authorities or commissions or any individuals serving on them to be posted onto the website. A rights note was requested and submitted by Mr. Dunkel. And the county's response stated that there were no records responsive to that request. How is that possible? Does the county not maintain records of who serves on which boards, committees, their terms, or who appointed them? And if those records allegedly do not exist, how can the public evaluate qualifications, conflicts of interest, or opportunities for involvement? Has the county conducted a cross check for conflict of interest involving individuals serving on multiple boards? And has any policy been developed yet to publicly advertise openings so qualified residents have an equal opportunity to serve? Sir, let's not forget about the West End and the continuing quality of life. Concerns surrounding NSP Biosolids operations and related issues affecting nearby residents. Have there been any recent visits by you guys, the commissioners, DEP or DEP inspections, consideration of a public town hall, meeting with the affected residents. People there still feel unheard. And fourth, I want to address the account of video and audio system. We have spoken about that before. Respectfully, it's antiquated. The audio quality is often poor and difficult for the public to follow along online. Of course, smaller municipalities across Pennsylvania have clearer and more professional live stream options. And lastly, I just want to say one more thing. The MIS Information Technology, which is on the agenda for today, I believe that switching into the Information Technology IT is a super moot and more modern and appropriately entitled. With that in mind, The infrastructure development plan that you had last week, I had an opportunity to review that, and thanks for sharing that with me, Larry. However, it's not an ordinance. It is a guideline at this point. It may just start, but what is the timeline for an actual ordinance that's enforceable for county policy regarding the major infrastructure and data center development? Why does the county still not have finalized regulations in place? This was addressed months ago at our minimum temporary moratorium that should have been considered until the protection for established. So again, thank you for your time. Let's make the county be the leaders, not the followers.

Thanks, gentlemen.

Hi.

I own this town, Tremont. Given the three minute time limit, I respectfully request that I be permitted to complete my remarks without interruption. A few of us attended the Schuylkill County Municipal Authority meeting yesterday morning at 10 o'clock. They're responsible for the drinking water and the sanitary sewer services locally. We brought the exact same concerns we've been raising at these commissioners meetings for months. Concerns about our health, the fresh air, clean water, functioning sewage systems, and the overall quality of life in Schuylkill County. And honestly, the experience was eye-opening. There were six of us there. Me, my husband Joe, Dave, Roseanne, Claire, and Caroline. Dave spoke first, and he expressed the same frustration, concern, and anger over the landfill expansion that he has repeatedly expressed in this very room. I'll admit, I'm still relatively new to local government and politics. But what shocked me the most was this. They actually listened to him. The 10 to 12 people in that room listened attentively and respectfully. No interruptions, no dismissive comments, no arbitrary three-minute cutoff. Nobody needed a third party to explain to them that Dave was a good person. They understood that anyone willing to take time out of their day to attend an SDMA meeting is there because they genuinely care about their community and deserve to be heard with respect. Instead of saying things like, this isn't your courtroom, they answered his questions directly, intelligently, and in detail. I was honestly stunned by the difference. They understood that when someone raises their voice out of frustration, it comes from genuine concern for their family, their health, and the town that they live in. They understood it was not a personal attack. It took nearly an hour and a half for all of us to speak and ask all of our questions. During that entire time, we were treated with respect, no smirks, no heavy sighs of annoyance, no eye rolls, No visible irritation that citizens had shown up to participate in a public meeting. Our concerns were taken seriously. Our questions were answered with facts and detailed explanations. No tax answering issues. No shrugging shoulders. No, there's nothing we can do. No excuses like it's too political when it comes to simply stating opposition to the Tremont Detention Center, while at the same time trying to convince us how wonderful death centers are. They listened, they engaged, they treated us like residents whose concerns actually mattered. We heard because we felt heard because we were heard. Here's my takeaway from that meeting. We are United States citizens. We are Schuylkill County residents, and it is literally your job to protect the people of this county. We have a right to fresh air, clean water, sewage systems that work. We have a right to hospitals that are not overloaded, ambulance and fire services that are not stretched beyond capacity, and police protection that keeps our communities safe. Those are not luxuries reserved for just the wealthy residents. Those are basic rights that belong to every single person in this county. We are making sure people know about the Wednesday, June 10th commissioners meeting that is taking place here at six o'clock p.m. Since there won't be another evening meeting until September. To everyone listening at home or from work, if you have concerns about landfill expansion, natural soil products, incoming data centers, or the Tremont Detention Center Come to that meeting, show up, speak up, make your voices heard. Because the people of Schuylkill County are paying attention. And to the commissioners, buckle up boys, your constituents are demanding that you start listening. You may find that you have to start doing your jobs.

Bill Wiskamp, Tremont, Pennsylvania. I want to reiterate everything Lara said yesterday was a much different experience. At the end, there was nobody calling out time. They asked, do we answer all your questions? They expressed over and over again that our concerns, our questions, our lack of information from the federal government was shocking and appalling to them and nothing like they've seen. There's much smaller projects that they put years of planning in to make sure that people of Schuylkill County's water and sewage wasn't affected. And here we are inviting 10,000 people into our town with still no plan, with still no engineering studies, nothing, jeopardizing our water, our sewage, our daily way of life when we're already affected with NXT. I'm going to ask the same question to you and see where we're at. I know Senator Dave McCormick has announced that Tremont's eligible for $7.176 million in an upgrade to the system. SDMA was very thorough explaining that we're running a deficit, that we are trucking water, that our system's at risk currently. And my concern is I'm all for this investment if it's for the residents of Tremont and Tremont Township and Fraley. But my concern is, is this part of the detention center? Because it sounds like there's no new source in the water. You can build a tank the size of Texas If there's no new water coming into the tank, it's just the truck water in and out. It's just to find more time. And we cannot have that in the West End. Have you spoken with Dave McCormick or anything regarding this money? Has there been any explanation as to how it's to be used and what the purpose of this is for?

I have talked to SD&A and this was in place way before the ice detention facility even came to any knowledge because there's been a problem with lots of water up there since before this. So yeah, this is what I understand by nasty man. They put in for this way before. That there was any vehicle that I could. Concerned buying property.

You can't refurbish the tank while you're using it. The idea is to build a tank inside the one that's there. water to refurbish the original tank to have more capacity available. If you read that plan, it's worth it. It has nothing to do with ice and the idea was to get the tank down and do nothing. We'll be out of water. A new tank will be used to supply the water to the old tank and use the original to have more capacity available. So if there is extra water, it can be stored in a deposit truck and be prepared to accept the fire.

Well, if that's its purpose, I'm in support of that. Okay. All right.

Thank you.

I really hope that this is out of date or incorrect, but the ACLU says Schuylkill County is only one of four Pennsylvania counties that is not complying with a 2025 state Supreme Court decision that says county election bureaus must let people vote who vote by mail know if they fail to fill out the return envelope with their ballot properly, which if they do it, if they don't do it properly, their vote is voided. For the past six years, I've mostly hand-delivered my ballot to the election bureau, and I was pleased that Workers only accepted it after making sure the return envelope was filled out right. But from what I understand, ballots that come in by mail are set aside until election day, and only then do workers alert people who fail to fill out the form properly. They have the option to cast a provisional ballot at the polls, but that doesn't really give them very much time. The court said that election bureaus must at the very least alert people of mistakes on the outer envelope. Ours, I guess like all Pennsylvania counties, they already enter a code in the Pennsylvania statewide uniform registry of electors or sure system, and that automatically notifies voters that their ballot has been received. So all that needs to be done while they're doing that, and that's done like shortly after the ballot comes in, all that the election bureau has to do is enter a different code that tells them a signature or a date is missing. And I believe that they can cast a provisional ballot. That was the minimal requirement. But some other counties actually sent back a defective ballot along with a new one. So it's basically cured. Failure to give people with deficient balance a chance to vote probably meant like next to nothing in this week's largely uncontested primaries. But the potential impact of November could really make a big difference in this purple state. And then the second thing is I'd like to know the status of our insurance coverage for the 287 activities by the Sheriff's Department. And I also have a few questions. What sort of additional costs are involved for this coverage? And I looked at the memorandum of agreement and saw that it was only signed by Sheriff Butler and someone from ICE. So I wondered if the commissioners had no input in it. And finally, has the department or the county gotten anything out of this agreement, which from what I read is heavily weighted in ICE's favor. one lawyer who looked at it said it almost, it makes, it almost makes the department a part of the subsidiary of ours.

Tell me. So we did find out additional insurance coverage for this would be about $8,000 a year. We have a meeting today with PCOR, which is our insurance carrier now for this kind of stuff. So we're seeing what that means what comes out of that meeting today, and then we'll make a decision on this. And we understand that Sean could enter in as the sheriff, but I think he would leave it on his own because there was a lawsuit in Bucks County for the same exact thing. And in Bucks County, the sheriff was allowed to enter into the agreement. So Sean mirrored his, the stuff that he filled out exactly like the Bucks County sheriff case that went to court in Bucks County. So that's what we know. Like I said, we're meeting with PCOR. And as far as I know, the agreement that we signed, it is not adding any extra duties to the sheriffs. It's only if they encounter a problem within their normal day-to-day duties as a sheriff. That's what Sean Bonnell, the sheriff here, speak of the devil. But, you know, so as far as we know, There's no, it's not like they're going to deputize our sheriffs and they're out kicking doors. It is within the confines of their normal day-to-day operation as a sheriff. If they have an incident here and are injured or something happens here, that they have some coverage from the federal government and also that they have proper training to deal with incidents like that here in our county, here in the courthouse. And there is training, Sean, and there is provision that Sean actually has some stuff in the works now than from them. So that's where we're at with the insurance coverage. Like I said, we found another, there is another company and the only insurance carrier in the entire country that is not covering this kind of thing for the sheriffs is Pequot. We checked, Travelers is the second largest insurer in the state of county governments. They did not drop in any shape or form. No other actuary has, only PCOR. So we're having meetings with them to ask to get more clarification on it and to explain that the sheriff is not doing anything outside of their normal duties as a sheriff.

Well, it sounds like, I know it says very clearly that they're in the agreement that they're being supervised by ICE. That's clear.

What we're doing is they're sending us their warrants and we're executing warrants.

That's all we're doing, you know. They've always had a ton of served warrants.

We've always done them. Now we're just being compensated. They're being compensated for it. ICE has always sent out detention warrants to the Sheriff's Office forever. We've always served them. They've always done them. It's just now, under disagreement, they are being compensated for doing those warrants before it was taxpayers paying for those warrants. That's the only difference.

Okay, because the agreement that I read listed other ones.

Okay, so Sean, like I said, we mirrored Bucks County's agreement exactly that it was vetted by a judge. That's what Sean mirrored when he entered in the agreement with ICE for this. numerous counties are entering into it, numerous municipalities are entering into it, because it opens up some funding and training for our Sheriff's Department. Now, we'll have to deal with the insurance issue, but today we're trying to figure that all out and what PCOR is going to do, because we have to buy an additional policy for $20,000 because of not having to come to PCOR. That's what we're finding out today. So I'm going to move on to the rest of the public comment. Please.

As far as the election bureau?

The election bureau, I believe they entered into the state program and the state contacts them. But that's the way that's the way it goes far away. OK, so. OK, so you have more questions, I'll stay after me. I can't. If I can ask Alvin Boskey, I'll have Alvin Boskey address Alabama. Good morning, Brianna.

Good morning. I like your chat.

Since I'm not here, . Brianna's all about the workspace. Why are the SCMA meetings ? Is that something that they'd be open to changing? That I cannot answer.

SCMA has had to be that way before I've been here.

I don't, I don't know if they, that's when they're scared. I don't know.

Can you tell them?

I don't know. I don't think they're going to ask.

Second of all, I read the development plan. So thank you for putting it together. I'm excited to see some proactive movement around that. And I just wanted to kind of augment that hopefully as it moves forward. Emma Bass, the attorney that came here months ago, she's from Penn Future, and their website has a lot of ordinance, and it really goes into detail, especially for like off-referencing and things like that, so I've given it a copy, and you can find it on their website. And then I will send you that info today that I promised you last week regarding Tully and Barnabell and natural soil products.

Okay. Like I said, this is the first step of the state of Jersey, and if you didn't give it to me, to start looking at how they could put in the planning zone, how they could model it in the planning zone. If you get into the same situation that the municipalities got in two years, if you try to exclude an industry completely from an area, they can sue, because that's unfair, and I hate to say what industry it was, but it was the adult industry. The municipalities said, hey, we didn't have any orders as to where these places can go and where they can be, And they could open up a shopping mall because it's not addressed. They could say your ordinances are too restrictive or not restrictive enough. So that's why we have to address them. But this will only affect counties, fortunately, that people that are in planning and zoning in the county. It's up to municipalities that have their own planning and zoning to step in. So once we have our ordinances, Sue Smith has been looking at other states, other counties, what they're doing for data centers, and they're going to craft our recommendations and documents into an ordinance that will be applicable to the county. And I want to make sure it's end-of-life. Water consumption, power consumption, all those things. So, you know, we're taking a really hard look at it.

We want to make sure that we can come up. Same thing happened with North Carolina Council. They restricted that to our proposal. They didn't have enough adjustment codes to slap that in available. It would be true. Yeah, very, very close conversation with Supervisor Northman, because that is a very specific thing. I think we've had everything changed there.

So that's because they did that contract a little push for that. It goes through because they didn't have any sufficient zoning to say yes or no. And if you don't do that, it's off. That's when he gets the first one. So, OK, any other comments on that?

it's really not a big comment so i'm going to just say okay my name is rose and i'm working on the public i don't see anything like that in the rest of this topic there's nothing that's very anatomic But also, the value of environmental balance, the clean air, the clean water, that needs to be in here way more than the four years from now that you go from this. That's my opinion. OK, thank you. What? I'm not .

What I did write in was, well, if this is the first step, we had nothing before. So this is the first thing. This is the first step in the dealing with it. OK, so this is a project that's complicated. And like I said, we've got to look into the ordinances. But I'm trying to get data centers supposedly coming online in certain counties, 99.9% complete. I'm trying to see about getting a tour to this data center in a certain county to see hopefully the new generation It doesn't use large consumption from water.

So it's a direct-to-chip cooling. Direct-to-chip cooling, and we're going to close it. I don't know. There's nothing better than direct-to-chip.

Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying. This one is supposedly the most modern data center. So I want to try to set up a tour of it to see what it is that they're dealing with. Water consumption rates are disposed of. It's not used. Some of the numbers being thrown around with the The numbers that are based water they're they don't you know just not use what people are saying it's a lot of clusters once experimented with using my pool. And it's only when I understand certain ones out here that they have a massive or massive the point is, because of what our time looks all. They just open everything up and let the back of the pooling of it for energy it's a lot of people. So like I said, we're trying to set something up. I'm not 100% sure what those are kind of going online. It was pulled in play. Days or weeks away from going online. When that does, I want to take it forward. I just want it set up, yeah, no problem. And I wish some of these, honestly, some of these data centers that they're saying, with what they're saying is true, they should come here and say, hey, listen, let's get the critics, look at a lot of us,

And so we're going to have to go.

But I think it would be better instead of a public meeting, I think it would be better if they took some of the people that are working on it, put them on a bus and said, hey, let's go look at the next, the newest generation of data set. And give us the information on it and everything like that. They need to do a better job themselves, I believe, too, and educating people. The newer ones are more like the older ones. And we want our consumption to get better every day. Like you said, there's a recooling message coming to not as energy as they were some of them. And if they have to produce their own powder and produce base load, it helps everybody. If they have their own little packets of powder blend and they're putting something into the base load, that helps everybody because that more base load drives down to a little less per hour. So, you know, you just got to make sure it's done. If it's done, it's done right. If you don't want to take a funnel in, We don't want to be right next to people's houses. So what we have here uniquely in Schuylkill County is have a lot of moments. So why not change something that's completely negative into something that may get a positive?

Maybe we can put them on the moment so that people ignore it and don't call it a sound and the heating is not going to cause water issues in their backyard. OK. Well, the party will have to stay here and hold their township meetings. I like that. OK. Well, that doesn't . Okay, thank you.

Well, that's what I'm trying to.

Real quick, six people elected officials not here 940 this morning while making roughly $100,000 salary of benefits. Ms. Stevens payroll debacle still in the right to know back and forth after not getting correct info provided. Ms. Gaffney is not here with her FNLA claim. Also still waiting to hear on the missing evidence that was reported by the president judge and where we're standing with that. Moving on to more familiar topics. Bethlehem Landfill expansion plans reported by court ruling. This is the same company that was over on the farm when this was shut down. With waste connections and the FKV company and everything else, Mr. Dottie is on record representing that company. Wouldn't that be a direct conflict for him to be involved as a county solicitor in any litigation or possible litigation? If he represented the company at one point or still does, I'm not sure if he still does. Is that possibly why the oppositions and appeals and whatever else you were sending were not done properly, filed properly and can't be found online?

there's a lot of shady stuff hang on you know i always give you your time so we did meet with senator oregon dp and dave flasco with the center of our news office he said our letter is there because i asked where is our letter they said it was something there Okay. So hopefully that's found online because the residents can't find it.

It's just amazing that it doesn't appear, but Mr. Doughty was involved with this landfill when it began. And in this Bethlehem ruling, the one comment that stands clear, the harm of the landfill and the expansion, especially this one, 175 acres, and it's kind of clear right now, the harm here is not speculative. It's right in front of your eyes. I mean, it's disgusting. So moving on, Can a Pennsylvania county object to a landfill expansion? Yes. Okay. By asserting its fiduciary duties. So if you're not sure what that is, that's a legal and ethical obligation. As a county commissioner, you have a strict fiduciary obligation as a steward of public trust. You're all losing that very quickly. Legally and ethically, you're obligated and bound to act in the best interest of the county and its residents. You're required to prioritize the public good over personal preferences, financial gain, your donors, or political preference. Over three years, the West End has been fighting with the biosolids out there. And now everybody here wants a pat on the back because we're getting a meeting with DEP, but it's going to be closed doors. They keep kicking the can down the road. That's what we want to get. I seen Mr. Mueller had a post up on Facebook about his property again. His family can't even go out and enjoy it. Play in the yard, have a picnic, poop in a pool. You can't do it. And that's all for Mr. Cronmuster. who was the biggest spreader of the biosolids, which at least two of you are sitting up there have taken donations from.

I'll tell you what that means. I did not take donations from him.

Yes, you did. You might want to check your campaign.

As far as I know.

I'll bring that next week.

Okay. Then you might have to pay it back. So I'm requesting the whole YouTube pay him back his money because that's just, line and pockets of people that are terrorizing the people out there. Also here, how can a county object, public comment, and hearing legal challenge? Counties can join lawsuits or seek injunctions if they believe the expansion violates environmental law, conservation easements for public trust.

But right now, that's what I'm trying to say, and this was explained to me last time I was at the meeting. One thing, there is no expanded implementation in any material form. That's what they said. Okay, well, so when it comes, if they expand the county once again will say we're against the expansion and we will try to do what we possibly can do. But what I'm saying is right now, the thing everybody wanted everybody to project to was a private landscape.

I totally get that. We talked about that.

Exactly. If they go in for, I mean, listen, and Dave and I were up there talking, there was something that was brought up by DEP that I just said, I can't even believe that, you know, can go within 300 feet of a water source i said that's like ridiculous in my opinion and i said that's the only thing and i'm when we meet with g secretary i'm going to bring that up that like today's modern age 300 feet is like to me is mind-boggling like how can you do that but the one thing that is very common with this county you're new so you know give you the benefit of the doubt is that that's what you'll say to me always kick the can down the road

Always blame the people before. So the thing is, you've got to be proactive, not reactive. So you know this is coming. They're not paying that kind of money. They're not buying 177 acres to put a movie theater in a baseball field up there. They're doing it because it's going to be a dump and it's going to terrorize the people of St. Clair and it's all going to come down. I mean, it's terrible now for all the people that built those beautiful houses there. The stench and the traffic and the trucks rolling over and the fire department. Those guys were there all the time for accidents with trucks rolled over. I mean, it's disgusting. I'm urging you guys, I know your hands are tied right now, but become vocal, be proactive, and stop the stuff from happening. Because like I said before, it was in and out of control. And 100%, they look at Schmooke County as a sacrifice zone, and it needs to stop. And it's on you guys to make it stop.

And that's why we don't have the authority to tell you what to do. And honestly, we don't. Honestly, we had a meeting with Dave Blasco and Senator, and it was a good meeting. Right now, people have the biggest stake that could do something like that. That's what DEP does.

I get it. And it is significant to have that person come in. But on the other hand, some of these people have been coming here way before you were here, for years. And it's a dumping ground out there. And again, Boots, you took a lot of money from that man. And he continues to just terrorize. And Let's be honest, dump shit right in their backyard. I mean, that's disgusting. And you're going to take money from that man and you're going to sit here and look at me like, who cares?

Yeah, well, I'm going to sit here and talk about it, but hold on. We are, with NSP, this county has said, we are against NSP from the very beginning. We have tried since before I was here, they were trying with NSP.

Since I've been here... Are you against biosolids being spread right against somebody's house?

Well, yeah, they shouldn't. They're not supposed to be threatened by this.

But they are.

Well, I don't know. Now, obviously, yeah, we would have to address that, too.

But, you know what I'm saying? We should be able to contribute to either one of these.

We should be able to bring all these concerns up. And I have stuff to show them now. I can quantify the impact. There's a little reassessment. I can quantify the impact.

Right.

All right. We've never had that data. It was speculative. That's not right. You know what I mean?

It's a good word. I gave it to you when I started. Sure. The. That's probably a big lease, right? You want to buy part of it? And the answer was no, you buy the whole thing or nothing. Right now, there's 21 years of capacity available in Atlanta. They can't ask for this company for about five years, five years. So even after talking to your Growth Team, There's no better time now. Growth Team, To go. Growth Team, Next to the water, but the meeting with us yesterday on the meeting.

that the water is being tested in St. Clair at Everett's Wharf. There is no EVOP in it. There is no particular tenant. There is no, nothing bad at all. That's what they're saying from SCMA, from the meeting that was, I guess, in the West End. Well, listen, I'm completely, you know, I'm not saying they've got a company gap, but they can't control the smell. And they can't control the smell. They can smell the container of property. They're not affecting people's lives every day. That is not fair.

HAB-Danny Teodoru, Planner Item No. 1 And you're 100 feet from the top. If you have the consent of the homeowner to go even further, I'm just like that.

Mr. Lepashkin talked about the dry ashtray and put it up behind along with Sheppard Lake. 20 years ago I was on, before I got going into conservation, because of these proposed Cogean plants.

And like all these are important in a lot of research, you have a pilot qualified sitting here. Every time it rains, some sulfur becomes. All right, burn one of these plants with lime. Let me find something to sell online. Other line goes to the college ends. When it's done, it's inert. So the actual appliance is safer than the whole case. It might be done, which I agree. It's all standard saying that the fly accident called water pollution. It's not true.

And the cogeneration plants weren't cleaning up. You know what I mean? And they have a specific life cycle. Once the whole rack is all gone, that's the life cycle. And that's, you know, it's one tool and up. Like, if you just let it sit there, it works. Then if you burn it, you clean it up. And that's the way you do the cogeneration. But I agree that when y'all look into, and I'll call on this guy, as far as I know, he was told, well, I'm going to do it in half, and we're going to get life cycles. Okay, so I'll look into that. All right, thank you. Okay. Any other public comments before we move on to the meeting? The only thing I want to address quickly is the question about the extension of the lake. Yes, we did take into consideration all of their, all the questions that have been brought up, we brought them up. How can you put a facility in there that doesn't have water to work about? Like, it makes no sense to us. So those issues have to be completely addressed. If they weren't informed of this, then don't even know and break it. We did not get, we sent an email last week, got a response back to say that if they receive our email, they'll be in touch with us again because I want the county's tax payment for this year. Because if the county's tax bill went out, I won't be able to put taxes for the county this year. And the response is that everything is still under review because of the new director coming in. And once as soon as we hear something, we'll share it. And I just don't understand the water and sewer issues out there are massive issues. How can we address that? When we originally put out with Tremont, and when we came to here, we came up in Tremont Township, or Tremont, Maryland, a lot of stuff that was brought in, we took it back to the sites. Sorry, I didn't sign the resolution. There's no resolution in front of us.

It's too critical what it's the detention center, but data centers for huggings.

Well, no. That's 100% false. We're not plugging data centers. A data center, if we do not have rules and regulations in place, they can buy any land anywhere and put a data center there. And you have no data. You have no nothing.

Buy from the government. So that we can . They are .

The water and sewer issues have to be addressed before anything would go in there. No, we haven't done anything for updates from ICE about the new taxes and all the stuff that we've asked questions on. And unless they answer those questions, we're going to need a loggerhead with them. So, and with data centers, you're saying about abrasion data centers. Go back to the rules and regulations in place, because if not, they can put them anywhere and sue you and put them wherever they want. And so, so you're telling me we shouldn't do anything? It's not a great system. You're not listening.

Read that. No, but either of you guys, read that. Read that sentence in this county if there's a problem.

would save a lot of your tax base for the account of your family. But you . You said to be respectful and let me have my comments. Now I'm commenting, and you don't even let me finish. And you get mad. And .

And you don't want anybody else finished. Because if it's not, just hear so. I've been sitting here for half an hour. We are OK. Everything SCMA has said, we addressed in that letter. But what hasn't been properly addressed? Water consumption.

what are they doing with people what are they doing with fire protection what are they doing with hospitals what hasn't the county addressed with ice other than not doing exactly what you say tell us to do what have we not addressed you're concerned no we didn't stream on notice what you're doing no we didn't appear we didn't talk to anyone we came to your meeting

Because I told you to not be ashamed of yourself. You need to come out and talk to people. They don't know what's going on. They don't know what's happening.

They don't know what's happening. Once again, we came to the meeting, I addressed the concerns, and we're working towards a resolution that does what we're doing. And you guys are like, we're not doing nothing. You don't think we can make contact with them? You don't think we can make contact with them? How can they do this? There's papers here. There's this meeting. I'm letting the president stop. And once again, when it comes to David, when it comes to David, I'm not their user. But you talk to him. Yes, I do. But he's on the same phone with us. That's here. Well, he hasn't been here. Well, Steve, this is David.

We have to talk to you. It's too long.

Oh, okay, but you act like we're not getting in data centers. If they're top running, but have a massive benefit for this county from the tax base to have that type of growth. Okay, I agree, but okay, so when they go to put warehouse and stuff here, where? Okay, in this county, somebody doesn't put a warehouse in it. Everybody's in opposition. Housing developments. So how do developments go to foster clients with right now? show how long it took to get through the permitting process and all the fighting about itself 18 to 20 years and that's okay but what we were saying is and the benefit they could have from the county's tax base is immense our financial officer has done that The biggest thing I hear right now, and I know people are going to find this hard to believe, isn't ICE detention facilities, isn't data centers. The biggest thing I hear right now from the public is, don't raise my taxes, and we want to check the land, and we'll be good. They are the biggest, honest to God, they are the biggest things I hear. We want to grow our restaurants, we want more stuff for the county, and don't raise my taxes. So data centers should have the ability to stabilize the tax base for the county, and whatever school district or municipality they're in, immensely. You could have a situation where you will have to raise Spoon County taxes at the county level for 10 to 20 years. Now, how can you not responsibly look at that? Different houses would have to be developed across the county to equal that tax base. You don't have those complex. You don't have those parts. You would have no different warehouses where warehouses would take to equal that type of tax base. just by three data centers being mounted in the right locations, down the right way. You know, we're looking at a bigger picture than, yes, there is concerns about data centers. 100%, we're gonna try to address them. But if we don't address them, they can sue you and just go anywhere they want. And you can't stop them. So as government, you have to address those concerns. And that's what we're trying to do. With the tree vault detention facility, we brought in police. I am amazed that they even bought it. I, in a million years, never thought we were going to buy that property because of the water, sewer, and the logistics of it. Never in a million years did I think, hey, this is a great location, but they don't have water and sewer. So they can't come here until they address all those concerns, 100%, even by the DEP, by the government. And that's only six months in. Well, that's okay. But they said they were going to be open by spring.

I don't see that happening.

Well, hey, listen, my last conversation was, if they're not continuing to build a curb for the town, what am I going to do? I'm going to do taxes, food, everything. What? But I'm just saying, that's the biggest thing. So it's another Republican. Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think so. We should do it. Yeah.

That would be the only reason you came.

No, that's not true.

That's the only reason I'm sorry. Watch the video. It's all private. Watch the video. It's my work, Tommy. Watch the video. Ma'am, the reason I said, I was going to have nothing to do with it.

Would you stop until I finish, please? Promise to stop. Put a pin around the button. Like what I said, if you promise. Promise to do that. Yes or no? Trust me. Well, I'm not the copy of it. Maybe the button, you know, strikes me. Trust me. Oh, she's not. Yes, you're wrong. So who's asking that? I'll try. She wants to make. We had the first hearing with DHS. I'm injured by training. I have any comment? There's not enough capacity for water in the sewer. got the hs it wasn't going to finish our box to serve and be to what an issue for the matter i said you know what the quality is yeah it's possible but it's um to put a system in so in my mind instead of this one

Well, if you go the next time you see them, any of them, tell them that you are angry, and you'll see that you went into Shremont, and they don't like you.

Tell them they don't like you. We do not tell them that. We do not. We do not tell them that. The residents of Shremont Town Square, Shremont Borough, the surrounding area are, because they're short on water, that they worry that if there's a fire, that a house can be put out, a fire can be put out, that they have sufficient drinking water, and that the sewer plant isn't overwhelmed. Do you actually think we don't bring that up to them? I bring it up every time we talk to them. Every time I say these things to them. We blame your concerns to them. You might not believe it, but we do. And as for that meeting, that night, and I'll be honest with you, that night is my dad and daughter. And the reason I didn't want to come to that meeting is because of how people were yelling and carrying on at the commissioner's meeting and to bring my daughter to that because I wasn't sure how it was going to be. That's the honest kind of truth. I'm not afraid to come to anything. And plus, by us, we paid. I went around to my family, I took my daughter so I could come to that. But I wasn't going to bring her. I didn't take my daughter to a lot of things. I was not going to bring her to that meeting after an ounce of people acted at our commissioner's meeting that my daughter couldn't sit out here during the meeting because people were yelling and carrying on to them. And I'm not saying you were. I'm not saying you personally. There are a few people that are sitting here in the front, telling the reality, and carrying on and calling names. So I will bring my daughter to that. That we came to the meeting, and I think, you know, I answered all the questions, and you actually, truth be told, you had to come to the meeting. Your husband did.

Of course.

You should have come to the meeting.

Well, then we did, and you paid for a schedule to pay. We got a little bit of this process. We've been told to treat it like we're outside .

I've never said that to you. I listen to you know. Do I listen to your concerns?

Anything that you write down, give to me, Maria, I'm going to attest to this. Anything that she's given to me, I take it as a D3. Or no, sorry, dice. And take it as a D3. This is . She sent us the whole thing on the grad lab. All the information, all our studies, all the stuff. We are presenting that to D. We are bringing up all the finds. We have all the documentation on NSP. And if you notice, the one place the county actually has some authority over, because it's within our planning and zoning, is at Falmouth. And guess what? It's a county planning zone and we put safeguards into the planning and zoning because it's FOMA is in our planning zone. But if we do stuff just on a knee-jerk, we'll get accounted for. So we have to follow, and I know it's hard, we have to follow The law, the procedures, the rules that are laid out before us, that's what we have to follow, and that's what we're trying to do. How are you going to bring it? Bringing it up to the team to give out the ice detention facility. One of the things that's on our topic, even though he's only coming technically over NSP, we are bringing up grants. We are bringing up the Tremont facility and the lack of water and sewer. That's a massive issue. How can you do that? So we are trying to address these concerns. And data centers, some are bracing themselves up and on. We are cautiously, you know, looking at it, but it could be a huge benefit for this county to spend a lot of their taxes well into the future. Because I know our taxes, I know our tax base, I know our budget, and it's just one thing. And we have coal lands that can't be used for anything else. So why not take it negative and turn it into a positive thing? You know, and that's what we're trying to do.

We're looking at it logic. So go ahead. My wife and the birthday party. Wednesday about the meeting. My wife changed plans with the consulate. Calling me chicken is not appreciated. Don't call me names. Please don't call me names.

I do. If you listen to the video or watch the video, I said, don't be too scared to come to the meeting Friday. Because at that point, you weren't coming. You were pretty security. You had sound threats filed.

I did have.

Go back and watch the meeting. I did too. And I said, I feel you're not too scared to come. And that was why you came on Friday. Because someone, a woman, wasn't scared. If you watch the video. And we got security there. We paid privately for security out there. Right, right. They were not in this land, so you guys decided.

make sure you were safe well but honestly i forget that's what i overstocked okay and that's why it's not going to happen most people that are elected won't stand up in front of a large group like that take questions and and you respond and try to answer your questions in the best of my ability I listen, we listen to what they're trying to say and I will address this stuff. Hopefully she doesn't get mad because over a broader topic that will be initially after the panel, but that's what we're going to try to do. We finally got a DEP secretary to come. Even though we had no authority, we finally got somebody to come. And that's just because we took the opportunity to bring up the concerns of NSBA. And that's how that was facilitated. And you're going to bring all those concerns. Well, you might not think, but let's say what I am.

For the federal government, who's hiding, who's not answering its questions. We're trying to do it, but we're not going to what? We're not going to be here until this is resolved. At least my answer is we're not getting answers.

Once again, you said the federal government. The commissioners cannot control what they need to know. We have access, and I bring it up all the time. I bring up these issues. All the time. Well, tell them you're tired of being stuck. Trust me, I have said it in a lot less kind of words than that. I've said it to numerous people in less kind of words than that about being in the middle. So I 100% agree. We will try. Like I said, we are trying to be open. We're trying to be honest. The data center is nice. I'm trying to be open and honest. Yes, they're looking at coming to our county. I'm not trying to hide it. They're trying to come here.

So now they don't want to come here.

We're looking at will you notice they don't get a tax break, that they do stop in the right area, that the residents benefit from everything. I don't know how else to deal with it. Do you know what I mean? I'm literally dealing with it with the best of our ability. As soon as we know they're coming here, as soon as we found out the one was coming to find township, we started developing a plan. You know, we're trying to make sure they're safeguards in place, but also not just saying, No, no, no, not here. You can't overlook the tax benefit for the county when it comes to data centers. It's massive development without strong traffic. You know, newer data centers are not using as much power, not using as much water, and they're reducing their own electricity. And honestly, data center companies need to do a better job of educating the people like you said. They should have a bus here and say, everybody that's against this Come on, get on this bus and let's go take a ride and look at the boost generation in Davidson. Let us answer your questions. But that's on them to do that. We're trying to facilitate as much as we possibly can. Go ahead.

So Claire Kemp is our panel on Township. I was listening to everything that you were saying and you were saying everything that Rhiannon has said you have already taken. I'm wondering, and I haven't read the resolution, but I know fairly Township has signed it. Everything that I think is in that resolution, you already believe in your gut and have said out loud at meetings. I think if you were to sign that resolution, it would take a necessary step to give people who are concerned about your willingness to fight hard, if you would say, yeah, we're going to sign this resolution, I think it would be helpful. I don't understand your hesitation.

Okay. Thank you. All right. Okay, is there any other questions before we move on?

I just want to say that I've always spoke out against this detention center. And the resolution came in front of me over time. Because we heard all, I know data centers, which is good. It's the federal government. They snuck in here, did what they want to do. But the thing is, we need to make a stand. It's no good for our people. Don't wait for living just to make that easy thing. Yeah, we at the end of the day, we might be able to do anything, but it's that hard stamp saying that no, we don't want. Everything that you put together on the data center. You know we gotta stop slow, slow that pace up to make sure that they're putting in the right place at the right time and everything else that they perform. This is not what we have. slow them down we can say no we don't want this at all and neither does our all our residents and i'll put everybody in place and i think you think it's really challenging well 143 000 citizens we've served i think would say no we don't want so yeah

Okay, so does it a lot for people to read?

Morning.

Morning, Commissioner. Morning. Good morning. Children, youth, that time of year, getting their contracts renewed annually.

First, we have an agreement with Access Foster Care and Adoption Incorporated, 4th Washington, Pennsylvania, for foster care services per diem rates as follows. Enhanced at $77.94, specialized at $94.75 with a term of September 12, 2025 to June 30, 2026. This item represents splitting off foster care services from an existing vendor for insurance business reasons. Next item is approval of an agreement with 360 Civic Incorporated doing business as Ironwall by Incogni. They're from Mission Viejo, California, and offer privacy protection services with a cost of $799 per person per year. The contract cap, $7,990, and determined June 1st, 2026 to May 31st, 2027. Third item is an addendum to the agreement, Speak Right LLC, Galveston, Texas, dated September 24th, 25. This extends the term period to include fiscal year 26-27 and current rates and terms with a new end date June 30th, 2027. Each of the following 10 agreements have a term period of July 1st, 2026 through June 30th, 2027. First of those is Outside In School of Experiential Education Incorporated, Bolivar. They offer community-based residential services with per diem rates as follows. Voyager's program is at $397. Pathway to Recovery is at $359. Guided Path is at $1,197. Next is the Children's Home of Easton of Easton, Pennsylvania, with community-based residential services and per diem rates as follows. Residential at $398, shelter at $453.70. The Zygmunt Hall Specialized Setting Program at $590.47. And then this provider also offers foster care with per diem rates as follows. Level one is $164 a day. Level two is $200.69. Next is with MiraKey of Harrisburg. They offer foster care services and per diem rates are as follows, foster care plus $114.02, enhanced $165.95, mother infant program that's $173.21, and emergency respite at $127.23. Open Door International Incorporated of Reading offers foster care services and their per diem rates are as follows, traditional is at $111.69, Specialized is at $126.70. The mother with infant program is at $184.82. Cornell Abraxas Group of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania is offering specialized residential services with per day rates as follows. Their intensive open residential is at $613.90. South Mountain Shelter is at $509.60. Secure residential is at $485.23. Secure residential treatment for habitual offenders and Sex offenders is at $836.83. Detention is at $829.04. We're renewing with All Shred, Moscow, PA, for their certified secure document shredding services every other week at a cost of $80 per 64-gallon container, $30 appeal charge per visit. Forensic Mind Solutions, LLC of YNSA, is offering counseling services with rates as follows. Psychological evaluation for $2,940. Non-offending parent evaluations are at $551.25. Parental capacity evaluations at $3,150. Psychosexual evaluations at $802. Polygraphs at $498.75. They also offer individual therapy with the rate of $176.40 per hour. Ivanko International, LLC of Reston, Virginia. It's our information system. Their renewal agreement includes Child accounting and profile system application caps at an annual unit price $65,910.23. CCWIS maintenance, such a communication aspect with the state, is an annual unit price of $13,732.22. AFCARS upgraded maintenance, and that's the communication with the federal government, is at a unit price of $11,100.48. They also offer consulting services with prior request and authorization. with varying rates based on technical need, ranging from $54.50 per hour for a research analyst up to $125 an hour for a project director. Alternative Consulting Enterprises, LLC, Shillington, Pennsylvania. This is an individual child-specific agreement providing counseling services for that child in another community with rates as follows. Therapy at $150 per one-hour session. Psychiatric evaluations, $275 per assessment. Men management, $150 per visit. Level of care of assessment is at $400 per evaluation. Finally, we have an agreement with the county of Chester, West Chester, PA, for their detention services for the per diem rate, $741. And their shelter services are at $530 per diem. Can you agree?

I do agree. $1,000.

Good morning, Melissa Hayes of the Schuylkill County Domestic Relations Office. A motion is requested by the Schuylkill County Domestic Relations Office to the Schuylkill County Board of Commissioners to approve six employees along with related travel expenses that are consistent with the county's policy to attend that annual statewide Domestic Relations Association of Pennsylvania training conference in Cranberry, PA. This conference is scheduled for Sunday, October 4, 2026, and it concludes Thursday, October 8, 2026. The conference allows staff to incorporate the provision of updates, federal regulations, case law, and statutes relating to child support matters, acquire knowledge on upcoming mandates, intergovernmental modifications, cybersecurity, unusual support guidelines, scenarios, and tax credits, fraternities, establish uniform parent-to-jack, moderate families, and inclusivity in the workplace. This line is also reimbursed by 66%. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Approval within the office of pension program technology group for software.

That was approved on March 11.6.

And for the renaming management information system department to information technology. What's that?

Two items of consideration next week, a motion to end an agreement with Green's Communications, possible for 24-hour maintenance of our logging recorder, cost will be $25,355. And the term is from January 1 to September 31, 2026. Second one's a motion to end into a master service agreement with Computer Technologies of Bethlehem, purpose of implementing a Northeast regional cybersecurity plan The plan has been approved and funded by Piedmont, Schuylkill County, and is designated as the new sharing administrator on behalf of this project. Participating counties are Carbon, Lackawanna, Pipe, Schuylkill, and Wayne, and the amount is $12428,460. It has to do with all the cyber security of all of that. That's everything that we have there. All our servers that are connected to the cat system and all our servers connected to our 911 phone system it doesn't it just continues to the one to the one we currently have in the one we're like so it doesn't it's on the back end so it's all the uh all the hardware okay that connects okay all right thanks it's not a new one right no absolutely not

Good morning, Commissioners. Deanna Orlofsky, Office of Senior Services. Approval of an addendum with Columbus Growth Care, LTV, and Pottsville in contract number 2025-373 to increase for additional $108,000 for personal care services. The revised contract cap for fiscal year 25-26 will be $332,000. If I hold on to the office today, I'm going to start at $3,000.

And I'm planning on joining the board for a plan to add health to them. Sweet Arrow Lake is a rock-solid setting. Good morning, Connectioners.

The next item on the agenda is presented by Attorney Mark Cirillo, who is the solicitor for the Schieda County Industrial Development Act.

Good morning, Mr. Chair, members of the board, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you, David. As you know, Schieda is the authority for Schieda County. which acts as a conduit or facilitator for tax exempt financings for the benefit of businesses located in the county. So today we're here to discuss the St. Louis Hospital of Bethlehem VA and several of its affiliates, which are doing a tax exempt bond financing involving numerous facilities in various locations in four different counties, including school. The total financing is $480 million. Some of that is refinancing of existing debt, but the project includes $94 million of new money capital investment in Sioux County, which are outlined on today's agenda, the purposes being St. Luke's acquiring the interest of Geisinger Health's interest in the Geisinger St. Luke's Hospital in Wilkesburg, the acquisition of medical equipment, and the development and construction of an expansion of the emergency department in Wilkesburg, and the development of another medical office building on the Wilkesburg campus. Tax exam financing requires a public hearing and approving resolutions of the county commissioners in the counties which are involved. such public hearings are referred to as a TEFRA hearing, named for the federal tax legislation under which such hearings are required. That TEFRA public hearing took place today at 10 a.m. Lehigh County by approval of the other counties and the various IDAs acted as the site for that. I received email notification that that hearing has been concluded this morning and there were no public comments, certainly no negative public comments. Notice of that hearing had been published including in the Republican Herald, so that anyone wishing to comment had the opportunity to do so. You will have in front of you before next week's commissioners meeting, a formal written report on that after hearing, so you know it was formally conducted. St. Luke's, with the support of Skeeta, is asking for you to approve a resolution, the form which has been submitted by St. Luke's Council. It's been reviewed by your solicitor, asking that you do this at your meeting next Wednesday, May 27th. Your role is in an approving capacity only. This involves no borrowing, no financial commitment on the part of the county. So on behalf of St. Luke's, the Skeeter Board, Mr. Zoukas, we appreciate your time and attention and for the important role you play in facilitating this financing for St. Luke's. If I can field any questions, I'd be happy to. Otherwise, you've heard what I need to say.

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More answers. We have a transfer of just in the mood from the department and the full time six one twenty six the rating. 26.4555. We have several information alive. As a counselor, auditor, advocate, effective 526. Two appointments in the public defender's office both as unpaid interns and applying as an heir to both the same start date 6-1-26. In domestic relations, the transfer of Nancy Dusky as secretary one from case officer eight effective 5-11-26. Two appointments of adult probation and interns in the adult probation office effective 6-1-26 for a duration of 12 weeks. Names are Jake Bobbin and Kate Engelman. Although spending drug test is physical, we're appropriate to all actions involving salaries, or we can reduce the fee and greater our funding salaries work for them. Any new business?

I have a question about number 12. Wasn't that a draft document? The expo . Yeah, but we have to adopt that.

Okay. This, this will be next week. This is just presented at this meeting, and then it's voted on 30 this week.

When things are at work session, that will be the week that people can see what's going on and have the chance to come and enforce the ones that are reactable. You're only allowing people a week

over the holidays to comment on this plan when you're going to mow it and all this other stuff?

Yes. Yes, that's what we're doing. Well, may I answer your question correctly? Yes, that's what we're doing.

I heard you.

I don't think that's what we're doing. No, I know you do. Thank you. Well, I probably don't.

If you want to, then I can't.

I'm just going to go ahead and go home. So before we get to the second question, I'll have more help. I want to make a comment . So they're yelling from the back.

Good morning, commissioners. My name is Rosie . If this is going to be approved next week and we don't have time to comment on that, like, would you do that in an executive session before the actual commissioners meeting? So when is the public comment on this? Or is there no public comments?

From now until next week. So how do we submit the comments? Send an email. To who? To the county administrator, and we'll email them and list it on the website.

Okay. Thank you.

You can do all of them here. What's that? You can do all of them here.

Yeah.

I was not going to speak, but I just wanted to address something that I saw my entrance into the building today. First of all, you know, Regent Township. There's job postings on the board out front that don't reflect or match, I should say, vice versa with the county website with some expired, I should say, job openings. So some of the posting days have ended. So I think that's a concern that we may want to, if we're looking for qualified people on a go-forward basis, that we are making sure that the information on the website under the HR department and job listings and postings at least is up to date and that those postings are current on the bulletin board. With that being said, I also wanted to ask when the last time the county may have done a competitive wage analysis. This being said, and I know we deal with the union, but this being said, I find it highly absurd that a 911 communication dispatch personnel is receiving $20 an hour, which is one of the most highly stressed jobs in this country. And we have secretarial or other positions within the county making an additional amount of money more per hour or annually. One of the things that I did notice that there is some postings that salary ranges that are non-union exempt could be from $14 an hour to $28 an hour. So you're going from $14 and doubling it almost to $28 an hour. It was like $27 and change. How is that even possible? What is this gray area in between? And we resolved this gray area. And the position I referred to is the administrative position for the tax success and all. I believe it starts at 14 and it goes up to the potential of $28 an hour. So I highly encourage that the county, if it hasn't done one recently, to maybe look at some of these positions that maybe you can rein in some of them, control some of them, or make sure that the people of the county or the courthouse are being treated appropriately for the positions that they hold. That's all I have.

It just depends, Chris, if there are unions or not.

Stapp, And I understand that. But again, I was just like looking at that one some $14 an hour.

Stapp, Days. Stapp, Certainly some of them. Stapp, It all depends on like certainly didn't see either. Stapp, All Stapp, Some of the skills and the things that they may have.

You know, however, I'm just looking at I see $20 an hour for 911. And I know it was increased.

But that is one of the most stressful training. Okay, then it goes up. And then after they're so long, it goes up a little more.

Okay.

Okay, okay. We're like the sheriff's department.

You know, Fortunately, with this game, some of the pay range that they get, I think it's a little mundane. From the business side, we don't have to go ahead and be, you know, do our fiduciary responsibility.

So I appreciate your time.

I just wanted to bring that up. Thank you.

And the patrol is up. It says now that for Connor, one of his parents and his mother are associated with $22,147, effective 5-26-26. An adult probation, set salary for Jake, Bob, The information injured 1428 and our 6126 for the operations that started for a single patient intern for $14.28 an hour effective 6126. That is all that a lot of doors outside. So hold on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, we don't need our information once . So we'll just have a second. Any questions? Commissioner Fedora? Yes.

Commissioner Hetherington?

Yes.

Commissioner Hess? Yes.

So we're good.

It's all there.