City Council - Regular Meeting

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Zelda House.

Madam Chair, we're ready whenever you're ready.

Good evening everyone. Welcome to the Sandy City Council meeting of June 23rd, 2026. We start our meetings with a prayer and a pledge. Do I have any volunteers for a prayer this evening? Would you like to?

Our dearest Heavenly Father, we are so grateful to be gathered together this evening to discuss the issues of Sandy City. Please watch over and protect all of us and our residents and our workers, that they would be able to be safe and to enjoy the upcoming July holidays. Please help us to make good decisions on behalf of the city. We love thee so very much, and we say these things in the name of thy Son, Jesus Christ. Amen. Thank you.

Will everyone please rise for the pledge?

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

And introductions. Dustin.

Thank you, Madam Chair. My name is Dustin Fratto. I'm with the city council office. One of our other council staff members, Justin Sorensen, is in the back of the room.

I'm Tracy. I'm council for the council.

Chris Edwards with the council office. Chris Nickel, District 3. Brooke Christensen, District 1.

Cindy Sharkey at large. Allison Stroud, District 2. Brooke D'Souza at large. Council members online, do you guys want to go ahead?

Yes, thank you. Marcy Hausman, District 4.

I'm Aaron DeKaiser, At Large.

I'm Mayor Zoltanski, and I'll be here till 6 o'clock when I have to excuse myself for other city business.

Martin Jensen, Deputy CAO.

Lynn Pace, City Attorney.

Alright, we have a couple of voting items should be hopefully not a really lengthy meeting tonight Fingers crossed everybody. We have a couple of counseling voting items a couple of consent items and an RDA meeting before us tonight I'm ready to jump right into the agenda We're starting off with a consent calendar which consists with two sets of minutes May 26th and June 2nd Would someone like to make a motion?

Madam Chair, I'll make a motion to approve the consent calendar.

Second. A motion and a second. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? All right. We are moving on. We're already on agenda item number three. Okay. So this is Brian Kelly. So Brian is going to ask us for consideration on Resolution 2665C. That's increasing appropriations for the current fiscal year. Brian.

Yes. Thank you very much. This is a public hearing tonight, and we reviewed this last week, but I'll just quickly reiterate this is we're cleaning up some transactions and the current fiscal year which ends June 30th one of these is our state Medicaid assessments we'd like to increase 50,000 and that's because of the increased amount of transports and that the fire department has done and it's a variable percentage of those and so we need to adjust that higher The next one is we've done a lot of surveying work in the public works department with outside companies for the annexations and the plat maps that have been done. So we need to increase public works for that, 85,000. And then the purchase of the Arbor building, we need to recognize that transaction and the bond and budget for the first three months of operations of the Arbor building. And then this past year in December we also closed on the health center theater building where we sold that What was paid off completely by the health center theater? We were able to retire the bonds that the city had outstanding and so that transactions here That's hitting a couple areas the debt service fund and And then we need to budget the money as part of the Arbor transaction for the council chambers remodel. It's $1 million. And the last one, I believe, was the waste collection fund, $200,000, because of the contract increase because of the index on the inflation. So that's increased $200,000 for the waste fund. So happy to address any questions if you have any. Otherwise, we could have public comment.

Brian no changes from the last time we saw this from you right.

Correct. No changes from last week.

Council any questions for Brian.

Thank you.

All right. This is a public hearing so I'll open the public hearing. I don't have any blue cards but if anyone would like to speak on this item they're invited to come up to the podium. And meanwhile Dustin if you'll go ahead and invite our online participants to do the same.

Of course thank you Madam Chair. If you're joining us virtually this evening and you'd like to comment on tonight's public hearing item number three. Now's the time. Go ahead and click the raise hand button on your screen. I'll call your name in the order in which you raise your hand and we'll have you have three minutes. Not seeing any hands raised, Madam Chair.

Okay. I should have maybe invited Ms. Nichols. So here's where we are on this. The resolution before us does not include Ms. Nichols' budget amendment, but it is on the agenda for tonight. So let's talk about that one. and find out what the council wants to do about that. And I'll leave the public hearing open for the moment, see if this item causes any more public input. So go ahead, Ms. Nichol.

Madam Chair, I'm going to ask that this item be tabled. Support for this has waned, and I don't think it definitely won't move through the process in the same time frame with now Crescent. on the table.

Okay. So do we need to vote on the tabling or shall we just move on?

No, you're welcome to just move on if Ms. Nickel is taking her proposal off the table for now.

Thank you, Ms. Nickel. All right. So I will close the public hearing then and I'm looking for a motion. And Brian by the way before this records the resolution itself has a resolution number of 24 dash 65 C. So you're going to want to fix that before it records. All right. Motion.

Motion to approve resolution 26-65C. I will second.

All right, we've got a motion and a second. Is there any discussion on this motion? I'm seeing none. So roll call vote, please, Ms. Edwards. Ms. Christensen? Yes.

Ms. Hausman?

Yes.

Ms. Sharkey? Yes. Ms. D'Souza? Yes. Mr. DeKaiser?

Yes.

Ms. Stroud?

Yes.

Ms. Nickel? Yes. Madam Chair, that motion carried seven to zero.

All right. And moving on to agenda item number four, Mr. Pace. This is changing the definitions on public works and public utilities for the expected merger.

Thank you, Madam Chair. As you recall, we discussed this item last week. This is the code changes to match what you did with the budget last week, consolidating the public works and public utilities departments. So you'll see there are amendments to Title IV. And then at Councilmember Hausman's recommendation, in giving credit where credit is due, you will find a list of 49 places in the code where the term public utilities department, department of public utilities, or public utilities director will need to be changed in accordance with these amendments. We did not attach those pages because that would have made for a very lengthy ordinance. So we just listed them in Exhibit C. But by voting on this ordinance, you'll consolidate those two departments and then make all of those reference changes as well. Any questions?

Okay. Any questions?

Thank you.

All right. This is a council voting item. I have no blue cards on this one either, but anyone who would like to comment is invited to step up to the podium. And Mr. Fratto, please.

Thank you again Madam Chair. Again if you're joining us virtually this evening on Zoom and you'd like to comment on this evening's council voting item number four, go ahead and click the raise hand button on your screen now. I'll call your name in the order in which you raised your hand and you'll have three minutes.

Seeing any hands raised madam chair same I'll close the public comment for agenda item number four and bring it back to the council for action Motion to approve ordinance 26-50 Second motion in a second any discussion on this motion All right

Ms. Christensen? Yes. Ms. Stroud? Yes. Ms. Nickel? No. Ms. Hausman?

Yes.

Ms. Sharkey?

Yes.

Ms. D'Souza?

Yes.

Mr. DeKaiser?

Yes.

Madam Chair, that motion carried six to one.

Right moving right along I'm agenda item number five is an RDA meeting so I will make a motion that we Recess the City Council meeting and convene a meeting of the sandy city RDA. Do I have a second second? I will second All right all in favor aye aye opposed All right, Casey

Thank you, Madam Chair. Good evening, RDA Board. First items up for discussion are both budget resolution items. The first one is a proposed amendment to the RDA budget, and the second one is actually the annual budget of the RDA for fiscal year 26-27.

Okay, any questions for Casey?

Go ahead. So one of these is Allison's idea, right? And have you had a chance to look at it yet? Because we batted it around and we didn't get your point of view on it.

Yeah, I've looked at it. I support it. Talking to administration, taking direction from an administration, administration supports it. I support it. I think it's a good idea. I like how board member Stroud, her proposal as far as budgeting the money, and then letting staff, administration, council, council staff or RDA staff work through the specifics and then bring that back by resolution for approval. So this just actually allows the money to be put there with bringing the actual specifics of the program back. So I think it's a good idea. It's a good use of the money.

Could we put the money towards it when the particulars come forward?

You could. Okay. Yeah, you could do it either way. I don't see a problem with it actually this way just because it's budgeted. If you don't like the program or the specifics after it works out, it's as easy as transferring the money back to, you know, where the money came from, Southtown Ridge.

Okay. Do you foresee any additional work on your part that –

To be determined. It really depends on the specifics of the program, how it's designed, how that. I know Board Member Stroud has talked to staff about that a little bit and that is a concern of hers as well, making sure that we work together on who's going to and how the program is going to be administered. But we have done this program in the past, something similar, the Owen and Sandy program, 16 years ago I was here. And we did that and handled it within our department. I think this one will be a little bit busier. But yeah, it just depends on the logistics. But it can be handled.

Thank you.

Miss Housman, go ahead. Thank you, Madam Chair. My question was similar. So I'm just going to instead of ask the same question, I'm just going to say back what I heard to make sure I'm understanding correctly. So this is essentially setting money aside in the budget We are not allocating anything. There will be a process established by which recommended grants, for example, are brought before us as a board. And the board will still have a say in terms of the allocation of that grant, which would accomplish the vision of this in helping first-time homebuyers with a bit of down payment assistance. Is that correct?

Yes. And so that policy component, I will be bringing that back, working with staff, administration, to have the council review that and to make sure that we are all comfortable trying to move forward in that process. But yes, that would come later with board approval.

So thank you for that clarification, Council Member Stroud. So it sounds like it could potentially be a two-part, which is what I was going to recommend. And so I'm glad to hear that clarification. So one part is the policy, the implementation, the design, all of that, which you will continue to work on, bring back. And there will be board feedback. and then an official adoption. Then part two is executing that policy, awarding the grants based on those who apply or whatever the process ends up being. And then that's a whole other process the board will be able to follow in terms of awarding those grants, allocating what's been set aside.

And so yes, that first part with the policy, I'll be bringing that back for us to talk about, to discuss, to look at what we felt were strengths from the old Owen and Sandy, and then how times have changed. where that that program was less successful and where we can try to make it more successful so that is kind of that phase one the phase two will be sitting down and trying to work out with the RDA Department what all of that you know the grant allocation looks like you know and if that's if that's handled with you know strictly with with RDA if that's be if that's when it comes back and the I don't want to say council, the board, has that information to it and what that looks like. But that will come forth in the policy part of it for us to be able to decide on and to make that plan forward. So it is still kind of that two step of what you're looking at, of what I think the question that you're asking. But that could be carved out and the steps made clear in the policy part of it so that every one of us are comfortable with this.

Okay. So what you just described is a little different than what I was envisioning, and it's fine. I want to make sure I am understanding, though. So once policy is adopted and implementation processes are established, standard operating procedures, et cetera, each allocated amount will not necessarily come back to the board? You're saying... the department will just move forward and allocate using the policy as the guide?

So my intention was not necessarily, although you bring up a good talking point and a good question, of something to look at that in a policy as we move forward with it. It was more of originally what I had thought was that the RDA would be able to look at that and then following just the guidelines that we set aside. and clarify in a policy to say this person qualifies, this person does not. And just moving off of strictly what has been set aside. That way it wouldn't need to come back for our input or our, oh, we're going to award to this person or we're not going to award to this person. That primarily would be up to the RDA. But I'm open for discussion and questions because I really hadn't thought of it in that process. And that's probably something that Mr. Dunleavy and, you know, and council staff can look at. But that's an interesting idea to it, you know, and willing to look at it. But I had not thought of it in that process.

Okay.

Can I address that?

And final. Oh, sorry. Yeah.

Board Member Hausman, if it's all right, I'll address that as well. Like I said, we've done something similar in the past, run a very similar program. There's a lot of communities that have run very similar programs. And I think it makes sense, as Board Member Stroud, is you as a board will decide those amounts. And once that's been set in policy, then us as staff or whoever is over the program we will just administer the program. So if they qualify, we go through the list of requirements they qualify, then those numbers or that amount that's been based on the program, we as staff will be able to just go forward with that. That's very similar to what we've done and what other communities have done. So I think you as a board will just set those amounts as part of this program and policy.

That's helpful. And so last question would be, the cap is $300,000. So of course, it sounds like there's going to be several months still of identifying what the program is going to look like and how it will be administered and what policy will guide the administration of that program. Then staff will execute that policy. And once staff awards those those allocations or grants 300,000 is the cap and so it's first come first serve who meet meet whatever requirements we establish and then that's that's the end of that's end of it and and that's a

the vision of it right now. If for some reason the council is pleased with the program and it's running really well, or we can always look at maybe some other funding sources to come back to it. But at this point, it's that $300,000. Let's see what we can do with that. How far does that get us? how far does that get with residents and homebuyers, and looking at that. So it is just setting a cap right now that once that $300,000 is spent, then the program is closed.

OK. Last question, I promise. I thought of one more as you were explaining that. Very helpful. My question is, as we're building the policy, what measures are you going to bring back some recommended measures of success? So this is what success will look like. So as we're coming back and an update is being provided on the program, here's how what we are seeing stacks up to what we have considered success so that we've got actual data to inform whether or not we feel the program has been successful.

Yes, ma'am. And I would be, once we get into this this year, whether it's this time next year, whatever that is, looking towards updates to see how the program, how it's working, if there's tweaks that we need to make, if it's successful, if it's not as successful, if we need to adjust and move on from there, if it's something that maybe we look at and add more funding to it next year. But all of that, making sure that we're staying appraised of how it's operating.

And sorry, Mr. Dunleavy, could you answer that as well? The question about measures and what did you do in the past? Are you planning? I don't need to know what they are right now because I know that's coming back to us. But just I want to know that we are thinking about success criteria and measures.

Yeah, absolutely. We always, you know, think of that, of your KPIs and that. Yeah, I mean, we're happy to, you know, whoever runs a program, whether it's out of our office or a combination or that, we're happy to bring those measures back. And I think that can be kind of set up as we discuss the policy and how the program's set. I think that can be part of that. But we'd be happy to come back quarterly, biannually, annually and report on the progress of the program.

Thank you for that. Just wanted to make sure I had a full picture. I appreciate it. That's all I have, Madam Chair.

MS. Ms. D'Souza. Thank you. I'll be quick. I don't really have a question, and I know that the policy is coming back, but one of the things that I had been thinking about between the last time this came up in conversation and now is maybe the inclusion of a loan officer or lender to make sure that what we put in place works for them or that they have maybe different insight that might help make this program more successful in terms of how it might be used by members of our community in their mortgage loan process.

And that is actually something I know that Mr. Frato and I had discussed a little bit of it just on the board, how we have some individuals that are very well versed in home, the buying and selling parts of that and using, you know, kind of your input and expertise in trying to help craft some of this to make it more successful.

Okay. I don't have the loan process.

But that's a great question. And I'm not understanding because I'm not in real estate. You know, but looking at the policy that we had in the past, you know, and crafting this and then working with, you know, possibly Dan. But, you know, where do we stand with this and what are the right questions that we need to be answering to make sure that we get as close to it as right the first time as we can.

OK, thanks.

So it sounds like we've got a long way to go and for a really good reason to be take our time be super careful I did have the same question as councilmember nickel on you know, should we be Funding this program now ahead of what looks like it's probably going to be a pretty laborious task of putting together a program and But I think you already answered that question, which is there's really no downside to doing so. We could, if we don't like the program when it comes out, we can just move the money back, right, and say never mind. Or if there were some kind of emergency that came up and we needed the money for another use, we could do that too. So there's no downside. Did you even have in your short range planning any potential conflicting use for this money in this project area.

No not at this time.

All right. Any more questions anyone. I don't see anything. Casey, do you want to go through all of the resolutions first and then go back to voting one at a time? What's your pleasure? What would you like to do?

We can discuss. I think that it makes sense to move on to the next resolution as well because it is the budget resolution. And I know you as a board have discussed this in the past. There was a public hearing that was open and closed on that. So I'm just open to any additional questions on the actual budget.

Any questions for Casey? This is on the budget adoption. Ms. Houseman, go ahead. Sorry, I was looking for my hand raise. I liked the real hand, not the AI hand. Yeah.

Just a quick question about the Civic Center North drawdown, if that's okay. Is this an appropriate time for that? And I just want to make sure I'm understanding the drawdown is from $17.8 million to $2.2 million, and that's because of the two key projects we are... I guess we could say investing in. This is an ongoing deliberative process, right? Like my previous question, we've got some performance milestones in place. We're ensuring that that obligation we are making is tied to some performance measures.

Yes, Board Member Hausman, can you just be more specific on the $2.2 million in Civic Center North?

We're coming down from $17.8 million, right? And booking in, setting aside whatever the right language is, $15 million. Did I read that right? That's the drawdown for Civic Center North?

Yeah, you're talking about probably our projects that we're allocating to future, but yes, those are all performance-based as far as any of the incentives we have. They will have to deliver projects, those future projects, and those, yeah, they have to perform on that, so absolutely. We don't... Just one of our basically policies of the RDA is we typically don't do anything incentive-wise or that without those being typically performance-based. So yes. To answer your question, simply yes.

Yeah, perfect. And that's what I was interpreting. I just had a quick question to confirm, similar to what I just asked before. It's kind of a theme for me. So I think I'm good. And then the occupancy of the new communications department, that's the next question. OK, I'm getting ahead of myself. OK, so then that's the only question I had budget related. Thank you.

Any more questions for Casey on the budget? Okay. I don't see anything, Casey. Let's go ahead and move to that, the next resolution.

Okay. The next resolution is Resolution RE26-08. If you recall, there was an interlocal agreement between the City and the RDA for the RDA to use $5 million to go towards the purchase of the Arbor Building. There was an amendment. that any time that the that was requested by the RDA any time there's a Suggested department from the city that would be moving into the Arbor building Us a staff would need to bring that back and get the RDA's approval and that Department right now is the communications department is the next department that administration is recommending move over to the Arbor building And myself or Martin can answer any questions on that I

Ms. Hausman, go ahead. Now's your time. Go ahead. Thank you. Thank you.

And I'm glad that it's coming back. My question was, this is This department is going into space that we've already been discussing. It is not going into space where we've lost a tenant, for example, and we would move them in. This is not giving up lease revenue in order to house communications, correct?

Correct. Yeah, this is vacant space that's already been vacated. No, so they're not taking space with the tenant that's leaving. Correct.

Okay. Just making sure for it because... That's important. That's all I had. Thank you. Ms. Straub.

Thank you, Madam Chair. And this isn't so. believe we discussed so RDA is planning on moving over there and this is not taking that space right are we talking about in different spaces and I think parks is as well with those I'll administration answer that question yeah as of today this would just be in addition and this is space that we hadn't set aside for anybody just yet so no other changes to the initial plan right now Okay, so it'll still be, so it's RDA and then parks and then now comms will be over in Arbor?

Correct.

Perfect, thank you.

Ms. D'Souza?

It would be helpful to know which space they're occupying because the resolution was, well, the last time this was discussed it was a little bit more specific and I don't have any information about where administration is recommending the communications department reside.

I can describe it to you. I don't recall the number off the top of my head but it's the the proposal is the first floor the one that's on the north side of the building down the hallway. It fits the communications team perfectly with minimal modifications just needs some new carpet some fresh paint a couple of Storage options in there, but that's where we're proposing for now Okay, would it be I Like to be thorough

Is this like a huge hurry? Can we get some more information? Can we get a map with the location that's being proposed? Because I think that's part of the amendment that was done was to provide the level of information that we'd need to ensure that we aren't, to Council Member Hausman's question, interrupting the revenue opportunities that made this deal possible. And so just for the sake of being thorough and making for following the precedent set by the first ask. It would be helpful to have a map and an office number for communications.

Yeah we can get that for you. Talking with Dan Nelson he would have been here he's out of town this week but the space that we're proposing to move communications into has had zero interest from potential leases so far. So he has shown it's been out on the market and there's no takers. So it's it's utilizing space that we is just sitting vacant right now. Okay.

Personally, I would still like to wait to vote on this particular one. I'm just giving my intention to my board members.

We could wait. That is okay. I am curious from staff, can you bring up the map from another agenda packet on another day? And if you want to...

We could try to track it down. We don't have it downloaded off the top of my head. So if you guys want to move on we could try to look.

That's what I was going to say. We could move kind of forward and backward and then by the time we're done with this if we don't have a map and have an answer to that we can just put it off until another day to vote on it. Although it would punt to we don't have a meeting next week. Did you. Did you.

Brian says he has found it.

If one of you guys just wants to, the easiest way would just be to send it to me and I can pull it up.

So Madam Chair I don't know it might take a couple minutes for it to come across. I don't know if you want to move on to other questions or move on to the adopting the budget resolutions and then come back to it.

Yes Lynn.

I just want to clarify something Casey said that I thought was confusing. I may have been the only one confused. Anyway, pursuant to the agreement between the administration and the council, any occupancy by city tenants during 2026 needs to be approved by the RDA board.

Good catch. Thank you, Lynn. Correct.

And that's fiscal year? Was that fiscal year or calendar year? Okay. Okay. Are there any more questions on this particular resolution, this particular item we're discussing? I don't see any. I also don't have any blue cards for any of the RDA voting items.

So, Madam Chair, I have that if you're okay with me pulling it up.

Yeah, go ahead, please.

Martin is this the image you need?

Yes. So for this version, I believe I saw the date flashed up there in February. Just as a reminder, as we've gone through this process, there's lots of ideas and iterations. So nothing's been set in stone. And so this version, the space where it says Scope Clinic is the space that we're proposing for the communications department to go in there. We looked at the Scope Clinic. We've looked at other various locations. Options for some of these spaces scope clinic didn't fit in there. It just wasn't a good function. So we moved on That's the first floor The one on the left.

Okay. So this map that we're looking at is this an old version? This isn't the one that we discussed last time, right?

Yeah, I mean I just saw miss Dustin was moving through February so we voted you voted on that after that time so

Okay. Yeah, it would be helpful to have more information because, again, like the whole point of it was just to ensure that we weren't giving up rental income that, again, made this entire deal possible. And so I personally would like a little bit more information. But the other question I have is what, so if communications moves over, what's going to happen to the space that they currently have in the office on the second floor?

To be determined still still working on that and just changes happening right now with Shane moving out me moving in just to be determined.

So can you help me understand like why? Communications would be moving out if we don't have a plan for that space. I

It's it's a process and so communications with with Councilwoman Houseman's proposal elevating the communications division to a department. We felt that it was appropriate to separate them from the mayor's office for increased access. One of the themes or messages that we heard was wanting to make sure that as the council has their new communications person that there's access to some of these communications channels. And so that was the thought of moving them out of the mayor's suite. And so as we move forward and finalize plans we'll come back and share some of those as needed.

OK. Thanks for answering my question. That's all I have right now.

All right, any more questions about this item? All right. And then you have two sets of minutes you'll want us to vote on as well.

Yeah, actually three sets of minutes. April 21st, May 5th, and May 12th, 38 meetings. Okay.

All right. I'm going to open up public comment on all of these resolutions. Once again I don't have any blue cards. If anyone would like to comment on any of the resolutions we're entertaining tonight for the RDA and step up to the podium and do so. And Dustin it looks like we have a commenter online.

Thank you Madam Chair. If you're joining us virtually this evening you'd like to comment on this evening's RDA agenda. Go ahead and click the raise hand button on your screen now. I'll call your name in the order in which you raised your hand, and you'll have three minutes. Madam Chair, up first is Steve Van Maren. Steve, I'm going to allow you to begin speaking. Please remember to unmute yourself. You'll have three minutes.

Thank you, Dustin. Good evening, Council. As I opened the document, RD 2608, the tab on my PDF reader says Morgan County Community Development and Renewal Agency. I don't know if you know, but in Adobe Reader, when you display, when you open multiple documents, they have tabs now. And I think that probably needs to be adjusted just like the resolution number of the budget that was passed by the city council. Thank you for your time.

We're not seeing what you're seeing, Steve. It must be a Draper thing.

Madam Chair, can I speak to that? So I will all concur with Steve. I actually noticed that on Friday as well. And so I looked up how to adjust that. And it's like a metadata issue within Adobe. And so I went in and changed the metadata to fix it. And so on mine, it now does not read that way. But it sounds like on some people's, it might still. So I'm not sure. Why that is, I would guess that maybe the resolution was produced by the RDA attorney and maybe he used a template and the metadata on the back end was off. That would be my guess.

Yeah, it was produced by the RDA attorney. So we can look into that. But on our end, it's never been a problem. But we can look into it.

Okay. You can't think of any problems that it creates in adoption or recording or anything like that?

All it is is the name of the tab when you open it up in Adobe. Okay. So yeah there's no impact.

Okay. Well we're going to keep an eye out for that aren't we? Okay.

Madam Chair. If I may, just one other thought on the communications relocation, and it's an important thought, is one of the other reasons we're looking to move them out is we have three people in one office up there. It's a slightly larger office, but moving that, we... moved one of them out and then would bring the director back in. It's putting three people into one space and it's really extremely tight. So just looking for a better work atmosphere for all of those employees.

All right. Any more commenters Justin.

I don't see any other hands raised Madam Chair.

All right, I'll close public comment on the RDA voting items. And, Casey, we will go back to you. Do you want to step through?

Sure. We'll start with Resolution RDE 26-07.

Okay, this is the budget amendment. Do I have a motion on, or does Casey have a motion on RD 26-07? I'm looking for a motion. Motion to approve RD 26-07.

Second.

Okay, roll call vote. Board Member Stroud?

Yes.

Actually, let me start over. Board Member Christensen, sorry about that. Board Member Stroud?

Yes.

Board Member D'Souza?

Yes.

Madam Chair?

Yes.

Board Member Nickel? Yes. Board Member Hausman? Yes. And Board Member DeKaiser? Yes. That passed 7-0. Next resolution, RD 26-06. This is to adopt the annual, RDA annual budget for fiscal year 2026 ending in July, beginning July 1, 2026 and ending June 30th of 2027. So I'm looking for a motion on that.

Motion to pass RD 26-06. Second.

Sorry, Marcy. No, you're good.

Board Member Stroud.

Yes.

Board Member Christensen.

Yes.

Board Member D'Souza.

Yes.

Madam Chair.

Yes.

Board Member Nickel.

Yes.

Board Member Hausman.

Yes.

And Board Member DeKaiser. Yes. Okay, the next one, looking for a motion on resolution RDE 26-008. This is the resolution of the RDA approving occupancy in the city-owned building, 126 Siva Lily Drive, Sandy, Utah. Looking for a motion on this.

Madam Chair? I'd like to make a motion that we bring this resolution back with an accurate map that depicts where the current offices are in the proposed office and the ability maybe when Dan is available or somebody can answer more questions about the arbor building and leases.

I second.

Can you include a cost for repair, what it will cost the city to make the repairs in the new office in the arbor building?

Sure. Although I think that that would, I mean, I imagine that that would be part of the discussion or opportunity to ask questions of somebody that had that information.

Cool.

So do you want to specify a time certain to bring it back or leave it up to Casey?

There's no time certain. So I'm just looking for an accurate map and office numbers where this is proposed, where everybody else currently is from the last time and somebody that might be able to answer more specific questions that relate to leases and costs.

No, you don't have to put it. It's just something I'll be asking. So if you could add the cost, it'd be great.

So the very next meeting that works, I mean, I'm fine with that.

May I add to that, Madam Chair? Sure. I agree. That's why I seconded this. I mean, I think it sounds like an appropriate move, but I have very similar questions around that. I know we've been told that that has been on market, and we don't have anyone interested. And yet, once we fill that space, it will be very difficult to find. I mean, at that point, finding a tenant will be difficult. So I just want to revisit lease note. what is coming in from all of our current leases. And I just want to, I think it deserves just one more pass before we move forward with that, just to verify we are still accomplishing the goal and not missing out on potential lease revenue.

You understand, Casey? Yeah. OK. All right, you want to take a vote on the motion?

Yeah. Okay, appreciate it. Board Member D'Souza? Yes. Board Member Hausman?

Yes.

Board Member DeKaiser? Yes. Board Member Stroud?

Yes.

Madam Chair?

Yes.

Board Member Christensen?

Yes.

And Board Member Nickel?

Yes.

And then the last one, Madam Chair, is just looking for approval of the minutes of April 21st, May 5th, and May 12th.

I'll make a motion to approve those minutes.

Second. All right. Casey?

I think this can be an all or... Voice vote. Yeah, voice vote.

All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed?

Got what you need? Yep, thank you. Motion to adjourn the RDA meeting.

Second. All right. All in... Sorry, reconvene as the Sandy City Council. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? All right. Okay. Yeah, we're going to that. All right. It is our general citizen comment period, and so I have one card, now two cards, I'm hoping. All right. To Linda Larson. Come on up, you have three minutes.

Yes, I'm Dr. Talinda Larson, and I'm a resident of Sandy. And I have two issues I'd like to comment on. The first one is the Central Wasatch Commission. I understand that last week its budget was zeroed out, the dues. Sandy's been a founding member. And I view this as enabling the gondola by giving such abrupt notice and by not recognizing our role as a steward of our valley, of our relationship with our other organizations within the Central Wasatch Commission. So I definitely feel that that is eroding trust and enabling the gondola. And I want to thank Council Members Shroud and DeKaiser for standing up to this and voting no. I thank you very much. You both have publicly been anti-gondola, and I appreciate that. And I think all of us who are anti-gondola appreciate it. The second question is very puzzling to me, and I don't understand why the council has not moved forward and confirmed our police chief. It doesn't make any sense to me. He's been in position since April, and here he is without confirmation. This has such a strong impact on our community because they are leaderless. Yes, there's an interim, but we need to get our police chief confirmed. It's really impacting, in my opinion, the morale of our police department, which is so essential, such a basic essential service that you as the council should be addressing. So it's having an issue of accountability if there's an issue that comes up. And it's also having an issue with recruitment and succession planning. So there's a lot of issues. I just really am dumbfounded that this council has not stepped up and done your job and confirmed our police chief. Thank you very much.

Mary, would you like to come up? And you'll have three minutes to address the council. Thank you.

Well, I don't know if this is really a discussion for everything. But I have a large lot in Sandy. And I'm just wondering if they've ever decided to base the rates on the size or the water rates based on the size of the lot. I took out the front lot. ended with Brock, but my back lot is very large. I got all the odds and ends of seven homes and I have over 50 trees on there. So for me to water everything, instead of it looking like a lot of my neighbors who have let everything completely die, I wonder if they've ever thought of basing it off the lot size or the tax rolls, or maybe a quarter acre or half acre. Mine's 0.73. And for me to get the same thing that someone has like a 0.14, seems a little unusual. I don't know. That's just my comment. I just would like to see someone discuss that or think about it. I know Waters. But there's so many that are right. My next door neighbors and several up above me, it's just two foot high dead weeds. So I'm waiting for fires to start on those. So I don't know. That's all. Thank you. Thank you.

Right, that's all the blue cards I have. Dustin, do you want to invite our online participants?

Could you state your name for the record, please? Alicia Rios. I'm a Sandy resident. I've been working with Ryan Mecham. He was supposed to call me back, but he hasn't yet. I'm talking about the squirrels that are taking over all of the neighborhoods. We have, at any given moment, seven squirrels in our yard. And we have a very small yard. and i called animal services to see what to do about them and they said that we could give them a 75 check or credit card to hold so that they could give us traps and then we would catch the squirrels, and each squirrel needed its own trap. OK, so then I was like, OK. So then I called, and they're like, oh, well, we only have six traps for the entirety of the city. They have six traps. I had seven squirrels in my yard at that moment. And so I'm just wondering if we can do something a little better to the red squirrels are going everywhere. My mom lives in White City. One of my best friends lives on the other side of White City. And I live in the Draper City border, Draper-Sandy City border. And we're all being overrun by these brownish red squirrels. And there's only six traps. And then I asked, OK, so how long do I need to wait to get the traps? They're like, when someone brings one back. So there's only six traps. They have no organization of how better to get it to everywhere. She said that there was one guy that's caught 100 squirrels in his yard. And I don't doubt it, because they're all over. And they're coming out of my neighbor's car like they parked their Jeep in their driveway. And I see them crawl out from under their car. So I don't know what they're nibbling on in there, but that can't be good. And they're just everywhere. So I was wanting to come to the city council to see if there's something we can do better about that.

Thank you for coming, Ryan. You want to raise your hand and maybe? OK. Yeah, anyway. Thank you. Thank you. You bet. All right. Online?

Thank you, Madam Chair. If you're joining us virtually this evening and you'd like to comment on any city business, now's the time. Go ahead and click the raise hand button on your screen. I'll call your name in the order in which you raised your hand, and you'll have three minutes. Not seeing any raised hands, Madam Chair.

Okay. I'll close general citizen comment for this evening. We have a closed session on the agenda, but we'll roll past that for the moment, and we'll go to council office director's report. You ready, Dustin?

Of course. Thank you, Madam Chair. Just a reminder to everybody that we are canceled next Tuesday, so there will be no meeting. It's the fifth Tuesday of the month, and so typically we cancel the fifth Tuesday. And then the following Tuesday will be the first Tuesday of the new fiscal year, and so we will have the election of council officers at the beginning of the agenda that evening. And then one other thing I just wanted to make sure you were aware of, tomorrow there is an emergency management event over at the soccer stadium. The time for that has been changed. And so it used to be in the afternoon but Chris has updated your calendar and now it's from 945 a.m. until noon if anybody plans on coming to observe. Just didn't want someone to show up after it was already finished. And I think that's it for me tonight Madam Chair.

You have to remind us that there's no council meeting next week.

That's the biggest news. That's the first thing I said. I'm glad you were listening.

All right. Well, it deserves repetition. I want everyone to mention that. All right. So moving on to council member business. Ms. Nichol, do you have anything?

Yeah. The Sandy Clubs Carnival is on Thursday at 5 o'clock, if anybody would like to go. Maybe someone else can address the question. I haven't heard that the police chief has been brought back for advice and consent. So maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. I just haven't seen it on the calendar. And I don't think it's a holdup on our part.

MS. Ms. Christensen, do you have anything tonight? MS.

Nothing, although we do have quite a number of squirrels as well. We've named them. And they've started coming into our garage. And there's like a million. So the traps is an issue we should talk about. CHRISTIE WOODARD- Ms. Stroud?

CHRISTIE WOODARD- I was just trying to look through my calendar and make sure that I've got everything here. First and foremost, so thank you, Ms. Nickel, for bringing up the Club for Boys and Girls. The Youth Council will be volunteering there. I think we have seven or eight new new council members that'll start with volunteering on that. And then they'll also, as part of so tomorrow with the mass casualty event that the fire department is running, we have youth council members that will be volunteering at that as well. So I guess continue with the emergency prep. I was able to attend the emergency prep class that Chief Larson did. And it was on sanitation and great presentation. He always does an excellent job. don't believe I think it's in August be looking at you know having one that's a little bit longer I don't know if we have to kind of get with you on that one I know you took better notes on that but each month they have kind of a theme that they go through different things so you know it's the third Wednesday of each month so you know Come take a look and listen. It's over at the brand new 31 building. We also had a police swearing in ceremony. So we had two officers that we were able to swear in, plus an animal control officer. The plain air art competition up at Seagull Lily Gardens. And there was quite the crowd this time. A lot of kids and a lot of adults that were participating in that. The farmer's market had our public utilities were up there and giving a lot of information on water conservation, water-wise plant landscapes, and No parking up there farmers market. So you go go early that has grown so much in the past couple of years and it's always you know a great place to go out and You know enjoy some good food and grab some things up at amphitheater Park Thank you, the only thing that I wanted to mention tonight is I have this council cash that I I

had been working on for a while. And it took me a little bit to remember to meet with everybody that I had to meet with. But this is for Chris Edwards on behalf of the council. We wanted to thank you for all of the hard work that you put into organizing the various events and tickets to various events. So thank you very much for all of your hard work. And I'm going to bring this over. And you're going to have to administer it yourself, I've been told. There you go. Thank you.

All right. Ms. Housman, go ahead. Sorry, that was me doing silent clap for... Do you have a report to?

That was not me trying to draw your attention. But yes, I do have several updates. But first, I want to qualify it with this is for Chris, not for me. A few updates. So first, I walk fairly frequently the park there on 17th East, 714 South Mill Canyon Park, walking with my dog. And I've been watching the playground go up there. And I just love it. I just want to thank our Parks and Recreation team for the diligence they're showing and just sort of evaluating and determining which parks get an upgrade. This was long overdue. Well, that sounds negative. It's very, very welcomed. And the sunshade. Councilman D'Souza always advocates for that. So the buzz is already in the neighborhood. People are talking about it. And it just looks really good. So I wanted to say thank you for that. Also wanted to provide an update. Yesterday was the Wasatch Front Waste and Recycling District Board meeting. There was a lot that we covered, but the highlights I would share, an excellent audit, clean, unmodified opinion, which is what we're always looking for. So great to see that. The district has submitted to an RFP for Draper City that they've put out, and so the district responded very quickly. It was a short time frame, but the Staff worked really hard to respond to that RFP, so waiting to see what that looks like with a potential fold-in with Draper City. And then, of course, what occupies still a good amount of the conversation is Harriman City and its It's official filing to formally withdraw from the district. That's about 12.6% of the district's customers. So there continues to be conversation around that. But it is an allowable thing that Harriman City can do and now there's there's all that comes with that and obviously there will be potential impacts so in terms of representing Sandy City on that district and our city city residents who are served by the district being very mindful of the impact of Harriman City's withdrawal and what can we do to ensure that the gap that is being left by that withdrawal is not just automatically passed on to residents. know that we're continuing to have those conversations. And finally, it's been very fun to represent Sandy City on the district as they've been discussing what they call bulky waste, but how they want to do a little more curbside pickup. Because the demand is significant. And so I've been able to just offer insights and recommendations of who they can speak with at Sandy City for what we've done in terms of curbside pickup. And then the last thing I just want to share, I've had kind of the week to process on the presentation we received last week on Crescent View Middle. I recognize that we're still learning more. There's more information to come. But I sort of wanted to just voice my support for Crescent us as a council, and I've shared this individually with each of you, but also want to share it publicly, for us to support placing this on the ballot to get perspective and get community feedback on whether or not the public would support a bond to purchase in whatever form that might take. I know there will be a lot of options presented. But I think it's appropriate, especially because taxpayer dollars bought this land. Taxpayer dollars built the school. Taxpayer dollars maintained the school. It's why we get first right of refusal as the city in which the school resides. So I think because this has been such a taxpayer-funded property and building, I think it's really important that taxpayers have an opportunity to voice. So I know there's a lot still in discussion, but my hope is that we as a body can signal support for that and that administration will move quickly to get the information that is needed. I think it's a generational decision. It's 17, if I remember right, 17 acres and I don't want to miss the opportunity to give the public a chance to weigh in on whether we will as a city get to do something with not just the building, but potentially the open space around it, or if it will You know, the next in line, as we heard from last week's presentation, are developers who are ready to put, you know, have the entire thing be housing. So I'm hoping that we'll get some additional information as quickly as possible and hoping that we can move forward and support that. And that's all I had. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you. Mr. DeKaiser, anything tonight?

Thank you, Madam Chair. I just have two items. Last week, Councilmember Hausman and I attended the mayor's intersection safety team meeting and received a great analysis and recommendation for the intersection at Alto High School, which I look forward to receiving when it comes to the council. The second thing I just wanted to address, I don't know if other council members have received these emails, but I've received some from residents asking the city to ban fireworks. We even had a related public comment tonight. And it's something that kind of comes up every year. And as I think about it, we've got all the budget stuff happening. It's kind of too late to do anything if we could. But I just wanted to say that I understand those concerns and share them. Right now, the valley is blanketed in smoke from I think there's five fires burning around the state. And a few weeks ago, the mayor and I witnessed firsthand how quickly that Enzyme fire spread near the Capitol. Prior to that, we had the incident near Dimpledale. And these events and the current situation remind us that fire danger is very real. And I just want to be clear, many residents ask year after year that the city prohibit fireworks. And it's something I've looked into many times. And I just discussed the issue with our legal counsel today. And I think it's important for the public to understand that state law limits our authority in this area, that the legislature largely preempts local regulation. And we can only do things under certain statutory criteria that reviewed by I think our local fire marshal and the city cannot ban fireworks. So that said though, I really do believe, like I said, year after year, I get these comments and I'm sure you do too, but I believe it's a conversation that we continue to have. So I just wanted to be on everyone's radar and encourage the council to, it'd be great if in the next month or so we could have a discussion with the fire department and maybe our legislative representatives about whether there are additional steps that are available to us to better protect our community during periods like now of extreme fire danger. But also since state law does not provide municipalities with adequate tools to respond to these changing conditions I think it's something that we should we should really examine so I just wanted to be clear on that for residents as the holidays are coming up in the meantime I just encourage everyone to exercise extreme caution and and follow the restrictions that are in place throughout the city and be safe thank you

Thank you. I just have a couple of things, and then I'll ask Mr. Pace, because the subject is coming up, to kind of fill us in on a brief thing about the whole fireworks issue. But let me say first, we had a Convention Facilities Advisory Board meeting last week. Both the Salt Palace and Mountain America Expo Center are performing in terms of occupancy and usage well over national and even international standards. We have about 80% facility utilization in both facilities and 60% would be the national average. Salt Palace had over a million guests last year and Mountain America Expo Center had 800,000 guests. The planning for the full Salt Palace shutdown, which came as a surprise to us just a couple of weeks ago in an announcement, February 2027 will be a partial shutdown. of the Salt Palace and then full shutdown will be accomplished by September of 2027. And that is really just to try to honor some contracts with recurring customers that we want to honor before the shutdown happens. And then 2030 would be a full reopening. There will be a little bit more space and different kinds of space in the new Salt Palace. But also, even though this announcement about the full shutdown and the decision about the full shutdown is fairly recent, already the logical questions are, is there anything we can do at the Expo Center in order to maximize the space, enlarge the space? take some of the contracts from Salt Palace and move them to Expo Center. So it creates a great opportunity for development of the Mountain America Expo Center. And I'm really very excited to work with the Convention Facilities Advisory Board. Already, those were the roots of my questions in last week's meeting, is what are we going to do? How soon are we going to do it? and where are the funds going to come from. And we just don't have the answers to those things yet. But the assumption is that we will. So I'll be letting you know as soon as I find out more about that. I was happy to attend the 104th birthday party of Phyllis Okerman, who is a Sandy resident and a World War II veteran. And I told her I'll see her next year at her 105th birthday, but she is so spry. She is just unbelievable. I attended the last big hike of the Sandy Hiking Club, but round two is coming in August, so anybody else who are Parks and Rec's, Sandy Hiking Club is a great event. They'll be doing four more hikes in August, and anyone who's interested, please do. watch and sign up for that. So Mr. Pace, because this is becoming a really big issue, let's at least start the discussion now as to what Mr. DeKaiser said, because 4th of July is around the corner. So we are getting a lot of outreach. It's growing. And so could you fill us in and the public in on fireworks bans, what we're doing in Sandy, what we can do,

please fill us in with all the details certainly and others that's a good place to be okay generally the the general rule under your tuck code is that municipalities may not prohibit the discharge of fireworks that's the general rule except And then there's an exception. And the exception is in certain areas with hazardous environmental conditions as designated by the fire code official. Those hazardous conditions are we can prohibit fireworks in mountainous, brush covered, forest covered, or dry grass covered areas. or within 200 feet of waterways, trails, canyons, washes, ravines, or similar areas, or wildland urban interface areas. And then you can create a boundary. If it's easier to create a clear boundary, you can fix the edges so it's a clear boundary. And... All of those areas can only be prohibited if there's a determination by the fire official that those hazardous conditions have existed during at least two of the last five years. And if in response to all of that, the city produces a map by May 1. So here we are at June 23. The deadline for producing a map for this year has passed. And I will just say, and I think the fire marshal would concur with this, the city has already prohibited fireworks in all of the areas where we're allowed to do so. So basically everything, fireworks are prohibited everywhere east of 13th East and west of 13th East in mountainous grass-covered waterways, canyon washes, et cetera. So we have done everything state law allows us to do. And so when the governor says things like municipalities can do this, yes we can, with very limited latitude as dictated by the state legislature. If the governor really wants us to prohibit fireworks, he would call the legislature in a special session and ask them to change the law. I'm sorry, but I think that's the state of the code.

So it's your opinion that we have already banned personal fireworks to the greatest extent allowed by state law?

I am not the fire official, but that is my understanding.

I will answer yes.

And we have the right guy here to answer that question because I think that came under your authority, right, to make that call?

Yeah, and subsequent fire marshals.

Gerald, why don't you come up here?

So in 2006, the Wildland Urban Interface code came out. And at that point is when different various jurisdictions had to adopt or come up with their map, which we would determine as Mr. Pace just addressed, are crucial or critical areas that we would have to either limit or ban totally open fires or fireworks. In our city, our fireworks map is also our open fire map. So anytime somebody would want to have an open flame, say above 1300 East, they have to get with me to get a permit. A licensed pyro still can, or a pyro technician still can shoot off fireworks like what we've had at Waterford School, or I've done some at Lakai for weddings and things like that. They are licensed pyros. I have to license them. I have to permit them. I have to go there and inspect them. That's the only time somebody's allowed to do it. Under the law, I can't just willingly go say you can't do this because I deem this too dry this year. The map, and I've asked these questions every year, so everybody knows before May 1st, I need to know from the council or from someone from the city that you want me to look at something else in the city that you may think is a threat. We have identified for the past three fire marshals these areas. We don't have any historical data right now to support adding to those areas. With our NIFRS reports that we have to file for the National Fire Institute, every one of our fire calls have that data that's collected. And so we would have something that triggered back to us that said, yes, you had in this area this year fires that you may not have noticed. I could, at that point, say if we had all of a sudden Old Sandy, all of a sudden having fires there, now I could close off parts of those areas if that was the case. As I said before this meeting started, my department, my two deputies, myself, and a driven the city. We've identified the areas that we normally have the grasses cut down. We've talked to those individuals that haven't done it yet. This will be done this week. Other areas are already completed and so these are things that we normally will do to try to mitigate this in the areas that don't fall into the urban interface. So vacant lots are one of those things that show up every now and then.

So regarding enforcement, what will people see regarding enforcement? We all have concerns, right? Right. And we're all taking the maximum steps that we can take. And it's the legislature that's going to have to change something that allows us to take further steps. So what are we going to see in terms of enforcement this year?

OK. We patrol all of our band areas. and in part we control and patrol the whole of the city but we specifically go to those areas where we know we've had problems or issues in the past um I say knock on wood uh the last few years we've done really well with that mitigation we haven't had I hate saying it out loud because I don't want to jinx it, but we haven't had those types of fires. Usually the fires that we've had have not been the firework related, but that's years and years of education. Mitigation wise, we go out and patrol two days so we will have extra patrols on those days that we have the fireworks from the time they're sold to the time they're supposed to be able to light them. On the day of the holiday, we'll be out. Obviously on the 4th of July, we're a bit spread thin because we have so many of our personnel down here for the fireworks, but we still have two grass trucks and the on-duty crews will patrol their areas. We've done that for my whole career, so going past 20 years now. Something that does make a difference, but... Like I've said to some people, it's kind of hard to sneak up on somebody doing something in a big red truck that doesn't move very fast and is very loud.

So general rule of thumb, fireworks are banned, personal fireworks are banned from 13th East eastward, although we do have fingers spreading out in the west where it corresponds with waterways and parks and things like that. But 13th East eastward is our hardline fireworks are banned.

Yes, and that actually comes all the way from Salt Lake City to Draper. That was something that was legislated by our state legislation. And that was the last thing that they did to help us as fire officials and police officials to... We had too many pockets above 1300 East where some didn't fit into the urban interface category, but it was so hard for us to patrol that, that they did help us out by doing that legislation four years ago, I believe it was. So... As Mr. Pace said, yeah, the thing that we could really have this year would be to ask the governor to come to a special session if this is the way we want to go. I would love for the citizens to do that.

Yeah. So 13th East, east of 13th East, and any city or school district-owned properties, right?

So... Your school district properties, your churches, things like that are all private property. So people are not supposed to be on there lighting off fireworks unless they have permission. And I've had numerous people call my office in the past and say, hey, can I do this? Can we as a neighborhood do this? And I've always told all of them, if you can get permission from the church, or if you can get permission from the school district, which they have never received. Because insurance liability-wise, they don't want to take that on.

So basically, no churches, no school property, no city property, no parks.

Private property unless you happen to have their permission, yes.

Go ahead.

I just had a quick question about when you were talking about the prohibition on fireworks, you also mentioned open flame.

Yeah. So that would be if, say, someone, for instance, I had someone who wanted to do a pig roast where they dig the hole, they line up the rocks. happened to be above 1300 East, they had to get a permit from me to do that. Even though it was in the ground, there was really no open flame, in order for them to actually have that flame to make the fire to have that heat in the ground, they had to get that from me. The other day I permitted a fire dancer at Lakai for a wedding. So that's a licensed pyro through the state of Utah. I show up, I see that they have all of the extinguishing equipment that they do have their license they have to submit it to me a plan i check the area to make sure that there's no debris that would Be in danger of catching fire. They have to demonstrate to me that they are a professional and at that point I issued that permit So this is this is common for weddings Would that also include like a backyard Like fire pit that were so hard burning good question. Very good question. So Propane or a gas fire pit. We have a lot of homes above 1300 East that have these installed not required. They don't produce smoke so When say if they wanted to build a new one? They go through the building department and also myself We would sign off on that to make sure that they're built the way they're supposed to be built so they're allowed to have that I can't fire where they're having wood or like charcoal or something like that, they are permitted by law to have that as a cooked fire. A person cannot burn trash. So once you produce smoke and somebody calls and complains and we come, you have to put it out. Even if you're gonna roast a hot dog over smoke. So yes, you can burn on your property. And this is where it gets a little tricky as a fire code official. I can enforce a code for businesses, I can enforce them for neighborhoods, but on people's private property, it gets a little more tricky because your home's your castle, right?

Okay, thank you. Do you know what the fine is for discharging fireworks in a banned area or outside of the allowed time frame?

So minimum, I believe, is $500.

can go up to a lot more than that if you start with just that and then you have property damage from there serious yeah all right Thank You chief really appreciate glad you were here tonight to answer these questions anything else Lynn or who covered it haven't we all right do we have a mayor's report tonight do we have okay go ahead

Susan Wood speaking on behalf of the mayor tonight. First of all, I want to extend a genuine thank you to all of you, all city council members for working so closely with the mayor today to launch our outreach effort. regarding this Crescent View Middle School property. This is a super important decision that is only available for a certain window of time, so it's something that we need to explore thoroughly as Sandy residents from throughout the city. We need to help everyone learn more about the options that we're looking at and decide what we want to do as we move forward. So you will see a lot more materials in the next few weeks regarding this potential property development. where Crescent View Middle School exists. Second Sandy was the site of that big RSL watch party on Friday. The US played Australia in the MLS Cup Playoffs. Thousands of people came from World Cup thousands thank you thousands of people came throughout the state to converge on sandy and it was like ninety five degree temperatures so it was just fun to be able to host something like that uh... mayor zoltanski was also invited to be a panelist earlier in the week during the sports salt lake tourism symposium at america first field that was on wednesday and it is just super exciting to see our city be the hub of of of sports professional sports and what it means what is potentially going to mean to our local economy we now have four pro sports teams here so that was a very exciting event and i look forward to the future we all do mayors throughout the valley converged on sandy last week as we hosted the council of mayors on thursday it's always a healthy discussion where we can collaborate share ideas and address issues that face our communities mutually and A happy belated Father's Day to all the fathers and father figures, those who play the role of dad among us. So fathers are so important to any community, and we just extend our sincere appreciation for all they do for our families and our communities. Thank you.

Thank you. Do we have a CAO report too?

Yes, Madam Chair. Just a few items. As Gerald mentioned, there is a fire up in Dimpledale Park right now, but Chief McConaghy has texted me and said it is fully contained, and they have it under control. So no homes were burned or no damage, but just wanted to share that good news, thankfully. Just a couple other quick items. As a reminder Thursday this Thursday 2 to 4 Shane Pace's retirement party celebration up in the multipurpose room. Hope you'll take some time and come join us and wish him and his family the best. In that same note Jim McClintic also has a retirement party scheduled for Wednesday July 1st from 2 to 4 p.m. I believe it's up there as well. but just wanted to make sure since we're not meeting again before that that it's on your calendar. Of course we look forward to working with you and seeing you at the 4th of July events coming up. So the parks team everyone briefed us at cabinet this morning about the lineup of events and all the hard work you'll see stuff starting to go out up on the promenade and we're looking forward to that and hoping for some decent weather. And then also just a quick update, the Bell Canyon Playground that Councilwoman Houseman mentioned, it is nearing completion and we will have some type of ceremony, a little ribbon cutting, probably something somewhat informal. We don't have a date yet, but as soon as that is set, we'll make sure that you're aware and invited. So it is looking sharp and it's a fun, exciting thing up there. And that's it. Thank you.

Thank you. Ben do you have a rec center report for us?

So we're going with pictures again so we'll get that pulled up and go through that. So this is updated as of June 18th and so a lot of it's the framing on the exterior they're doing they're finishing up a lot of the exterior and starting to move in inside so this is the framing that is done on the west side this is the main entrance and then we're going to walk around the building this is still on the west side just to more to the south This is on the south side. You can see the framing is done now on the south side, and then you can also see where that brick is still being built there on the bottom left. Another picture just further down on the south side. See the walking track above the first turn there. These are the windows. The work continues on the east side for the measurement and the placement of the windows. And then this is the north side where there's a lot of general here, but just work continues on the north. And this is where more brick is being laid. So you're starting to see it all come together. This is a picture from the top. You can see that this is from two weeks ago. A lot more has been done. They're getting close to being wrapped up on the roof. And inside, this is above the gymnasium. The mechanical, electrical, and plumbing work continues overhead. So you can see a lot of that. HVAC and other items are coming in nicely there. That is the report there. We did get some reports of residents being concerned about the trees that are on the construction site. Right now, the irrigation's off, right? All the irrigation pipes are tore up. So the construction latent is watering those two to three times a week. every two to three days, I guess is what they're saying, and they're hitting it with 10 to 20 gallons. We're gonna have our arborists go up tomorrow and just kind of see what's going on, because they are starting to look a little dry. But they are getting water, they're resilient, they'll make it through it. I just want everyone to be aware.

Thank you that's great they're really mature big mature trees right. All right. Thank you. So council does anyone have a motion on the next agenda item.

Motion to go into a closed session for the character competence or mental health of an individual and then upon completion of that we will adjourn our council meeting.

Second. We'll need a roll call vote.

MS. Ms. Stroud? MS.

Yes.

MS. Ms. Christensen? MS. Yes. MS. Ms. D'Souza? MS. Yes. MS. Mr. DeKaiser? MR.

Yes.

MS. Ms. Hausman? MS.

Yes.

MS. Ms. Sharkey? MS.

Yes.

Madam chair that motion carried six to zero with one excused Madam chair.

Yeah I'm just hoping to have our council staff in the closed session. Mr. Cadell and Then mr. Jensen as well. Okay And then just for the record the closed session will be here at City Hall Thank you everyone don't come here next Tuesday night

Good night. Thank you, everyone.