Human Services Advisory Board - Regular Meeting

Well, everybody, welcome to the May 20th, 2026 regular meetings, the Human Services Advisory Board. I'm calling the meeting to order at 6.01 p.m. Thank you all for attending. Carol, will you please call the roll for the record of board member attendance?

Okay, no one hearing? Don't see our vote.

Present.

Raymond Vest. Here. Linda Harper-Williams.

Here.

Ethan Graves. Here. Sharif Gassis.

Here.

Madeline Smith. And Lisa Ramirez.

Here. So with six out of seven budget members in attendance, we have a quorum. All right. It is now time for the citizen comment period. Anyone is allowed to speak on any topic for up to three minutes. If you'd like to speak during the citizen comment period, will you please raise your hand?

And our guest is the first speaker. So unless Alexis wants to go get her, she says. We have no going on for our citizen.

Okay, perfect. We'll move on to the minutes. Now we will consider approval of the minutes for meetings held March 25th. April 8th, 15th, 22nd, and May 6th, 2026. Do I hear a motion to approval the minutes for all five of these meetings as written? Thank you, Yancey. Do I get a second?

Second.

Thank you, Ethan. Does the board have any discussion or corrections regarding the minutes? No? All right. Carol, will you please call the roll to vote? Okay, Yancey Rivallo.

Yes, ma'am. Raymond Best. Yes. Linda Harper-Williams. Here. Yes. I'm sorry. Beth Morris. Ethan Graves. Yes. Shereen Scussies. Yay. And Alyssa Reniers.

Yay.

All right.

We will receive an approximately 10 minute presentation by the following applicant agencies for each program for which an agency has applied for human services grant funding. Each presentation will be followed by an approximately 10 minute question and answer session between board members and the agency regarding their program or application. Carol will introduce each presentation and we'll keep track of the time. Yeah, on the floor is yours.

Okay, thank you. Doug, I kind of did the technology wrong again this week. So will you please turn off your camera and mic just so that the focus can be on our first presenter? Thank you so much. Okay, our first presenter is in the room. It's Guillermo Lopez, and I'm sorry, I didn't write down your title. He is with Any Baby Can, and he's presenting early childhood intervention programs.

brought some packets of pie last year i'm mainly in the room so i apologize oh are you gonna make some copies so i can send them on the pdf for you as well right okay hello i'm guillermo lopez on the side of eci early childhood intervention senior director for the program and for early childhood we are programmed to provide services to families that have children with disabilities or a significant development delay or have hearing or vision impairments as well. We work solely with children between the ages of zero and three years of age in one of 39 programs in the state of Texas. We work in collaboration with families to develop goals and then to make sure that we embed some routines and techniques so they can achieve outcomes as well. The team is usually made up of occupational therapists, physical therapists, speech therapists, and then they also get an assigned service coordinator or case manager to help with resource navigation and any kind of assistance that they might need. The model itself falls under IDEA Part C, which is the educational piece of the Individuals with Disabilities Act. And really, it's just to help families be able to be ready for school. And we help transition families from ECI to the school systems here in San Marcos. I gave you some information about the ECI program, about the state, and then also the rate of return there is for the Early Childhood Intervention Program. Again, we're part of a subcontractor for the Health and Human Services Division for UCI. I'd rather answer questions that you might have. I guess we can start if nobody has any other ones.

One quick reminder, the mic is over there. Yeah. If you speak quietly, the room thinks your background noise, it will cut you off so you won't even be heard over the internet.

I'll try to carry. So for the, I'm just like looking at the map that was in LinkedIn, all kind of, all service areas, K's and Travis, right?

That's correct.

So what would you say, like, I guess how many, people in San Marcos specifically were not able to service, how many families, and then also, and what percentage of like your .

All together we probably have average monthly enrollment of about 750 families are enrolled in ECI, in Travis and Hayes. Out of that, we have about 60 families, 50 to 60 families that we might have enrolled at one time in San Marcos. It's about 8% to 10% of the total number that we actually serve in both counties. San Marcos is a big city, and, you know, it's Austin, San Marcos, Kyle, and then Buda. So that's kind of—and then Dripping Springs are starting, you know, the little— Cities might have, you know, one or two children, but, you know, for us, that's a lot of children in one condensed area. You know, there's a high need for sure. You probably get about 20 referrals. 15 to 20 referrals a month for the program itself. Not everyone is eligible. They have to have a good about standard deviation and a half. So they really have to have a significant delay. It's not a borderline delay. It's a significant delay in order to be qualified. And we do standardized testing with the BDI-3 or the DAISY-2 to determine eligibility for it into the program.

Do you all operate like purely on referrals for like real estate clients or something like that? directly for services?

We have a great question. We can get referrals from medical providers. We can get referrals from daycares. Like a parent could be an at-home mom and have concerns and call us directly, and we would then go by to see the family and do an evaluation and assessment and let the family know what the findings are.

What is the cost per family?

The cost for families if they don't have the ability to pay is zero. If they have no insurance, it's zero. If they have Medicaid, we will bill Medicaid or private insurance as well. But again, the state uses a family cost share system, and that's dictated by our legislators that felt like if the families have the ability to pay even $10, then they should pay $10. But for the most part, some of the families that we serve here in San Marcos do not have the ability to pay in the cost shares.

And for your staff, Do you have bilingual or multilingual staff?

We have, absolutely. We have three of our search coordinators are bilingual. One of them is ASL. And then the two speech therapists are, one is bilingual, one is monolingual. And the motor therapists are both monolingual. But, like, the supervisors for the program are also bilingual as well. Overall, for the program itself, we have about 65 staff, and I would say about 45 of them are bilingual.

And sorry if I missed this somewhere. I was familiar with Any Baby Can because I lived in Austin for a really long time. And that's where I got acquainted with it. And so now I'm here in San Marcos and just wondering, do y'all have satellite offices in different areas or kind of like, you know, when your families are enrolled, how do they, if they're here in Hayes County, how do they engage with you guys?

Yeah, we have two offices. We have the main office in Austin. And then the other offices were part of a collaboration with the action and work at the village of San Marcos. So we actually have a on site office, you know, on the road that we're there sharing the office and always working with our partners as well. We we give referrals to each other, you know, against the action that they don't qualify for early childhood intervention. Then we can refer to the parents teachers program if they need that might need some client assistance with utilities. and for a while with rental assistance then we can also use community action as our partner and we meet with those partners um every other month on odd months you know just to kind of see how things are going and update each other so that would be the clinic that's there um and then wit and then the pre-answer but yes we were here housed on ryan perfect so about how many staff

are there here in San Marcos?

In San Marcos, we have, dedicated to San Marcos, we have five early intervention specialists. We have two speech therapists and two motor persons. That would be an occupational therapist and a physical therapist dedicated to San Marcos itself.

And do they service children outside of school hour? Is that zero to three? So is it in

know daycare early childhood centers or what does that look like yeah um it's in the natural environment so the family is home we go to their home if the family had a child in daycare and they want us to go to daycare we'll do that uh and again there's It's inclusion based. It's educational based. So really, there is no we're not going to pull a child out of daycare to provide therapy. We'll do it there with the teacher and really consult with her to see what the strengths and weaknesses of the child are. And then develop the program individually for that child to say, have you tried this? So the child is also part of the classroom itself. So it's not about. Yeah, it's more of inclusion type model, educational coaching model than it is about pulling kids from the daycare. If a family says, I want to go to the park and my child is throwing tantrums or at HEB or Walmart, then we'll also go with that family to the park or HEB or Walmart and go through that routine and then give coaching to the family and say, let's try this or give them a choice or set limits for that child as well. Or, you know, just be, you know, just again, coaching and providing intervention as well. Sometimes we work with children that are autistic. Sometimes we work with children that have Down syndrome. Sometimes they might have just speech delay, like no communication skills. And then we just work to build those up.

And so you guys kind of just, you know, adapt to what the family needs and what the child needs.

Really, if you think about those things, Think about it like this. We really work with a child, but we're really educators to the adults, to the caregivers. We're really here to really talk to parents and then help them kind of navigate what's going on and what they need help with. Again, we have specialists, physical therapy. If they're not walking, then they'll help them with, let me show you how we can build some foresprains. some stability, some balance. If they're having problems with eating or feeding, sometimes we have cardiac babies that have needed, they're an NG tube and they want them to be independent feeders. So we help them kind of wean them off the NG tube to help them, teach them how to. But again, it's not me going into the baby and holding the baby and doing it myself. It's me saying, mom, here, hold them this way. Just position them upright. Make sure you check the throat. So he doesn't choke and then just kind of support the cheeks and then hold the bottle this way and then just, you know, slowly build it. And then the mom gets confidence and then she's able to do it throughout the day. So then the therapist doesn't have to go three or four or five times a day. So it's really that model where we're maximizing the expert, which is the caregiver, and then we just teach them how to do it. And then we come back and say, oh, yeah, that looks great. Or sometimes we have to give feedback and say, just try this a different way so that we can have positive outcomes. Our goal attainment overall for the program is really high. It's about 80% to 85% on goal attainment. When you look at standards, that's a pretty good attainment for all families that we serve. But again, it's the secret sauce for us is really meeting families where they're at and then providing that level of intervention.

Any other questions?

And Madeline has joined us. She's also a board member, so please feel free to join in. This is anybody can.

Things like everybody's good.

So that's all we have for you. Thank you very much.

Thank you again, Carl. Thank you.

Take care. We are online. So what do you call your name? Lauren Foy. Okay. I was thinking that and I was like, okay. That runs on, so we'll go ahead and go to Community Action Central Texas. I'm going to go ahead and make my presentation.

Hi, everyone.

Hello, and then we also had Jessica Soto, I guess, listed as a presenter, but I'll see her online.

Yeah, she's not here today. She had class. Yeah.

OK, so now you're presenting is Doug Pudd. He's presenting for Community Action of Central Texas and the specific program is the Community Services Housing Program. So Doug, please feel free to take about 10 minutes for the presentation.

OK, first I need to be able to share the screen. Oh OK, hang on. You got you. You gave me access. I'm sorry.

I changed your status. Sorry about that.

Okay, no, that's okay. I'm making sure I'm good here. Let's see.

Okay. Okay, can you all see the slideshow?

Yes, that looks good.

Okay, perfect.

Okay. Hi, everyone. Are you all ready for me?

Yes, we are. Okay, okay. Hi, everyone. I'm Doug Mudd. I am the Executive Director for Community Action, Inc. of Central Texas. I certainly am glad to be here. And thank you all for what you do to contribute to this work. And I know it's a lot hearing all these presentations. So thank you for doing it. And we appreciate the funding that's offered to all the programs, including ours. So what I'm going to be talking about is the tenant based rental assistance program. after 2023 we did a needs assessment regarding um just all the community needs in the area and we found that housing was the number one need so we since then community action traditionally hasn't been involved too much in in housing but we became more involved because we we saw such the big need for it in the community especially in san marcos so i just want to uh just Speak right off about the request. So we're our agency is requesting 15,000 from the city of San Marcos to pay for 20% of a full time case manager to to help us oversee the rental assistance program that program. And that money goes to, like I said, a full-time case manager, and that case manager shares two different locations. Jessica Soto works with us three days a week doing the TBRA program, and then she also works at Southside. So we kind of work together collaboratively to provide this case manager. So, and this is about, this $15,000 is estimated to be about 5% to 7.5% of the total programming cost, and that range is depending on the family needs on our waiting list. So I want to talk a little bit about what the TBRA program is. It's the tenant based rental assistance, right? So it's a HUD funded program that provides rental subsidies to low income households for up to two years. So we help clients, their families with rental assistance. Sometimes they pay a portion of it, you know, sometimes 30, 70 percent, depending on what their income is. So and then the rest pays through the client. OK, and then here's our TBRA funding characteristics. So it's a reimbursement program. So we pay up front, we get reimbursed on the back end and it's through Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs. They pay 10% of the rental draws for administering the program. So there's not a lot of funding to start the program. So that's why I'm requesting the funding here. We must submit each application from the Department of Housing and Community Affairs for approval. So it's application by application. So we have to get all the documentation, send it through TDHCA, and then they approve it or not approve it or talk about some deficiencies in the application and what we're missing because there's a lot of documents required. And then they send it back if it's not correct, and then we work on that. So I guess I'll explain that because it takes a long time to process this work to get them through the applications through. So also there must have agreements in place with the landlords. So we work with landlords, And then there's a requirement for publishing, for marketing, and that we have to do a lottery system. It's not a first come, first serve basis. It's through a lottery system. We collect all the applications and then put them through a lottery system. Of course, the vulnerable populations receive priority. So they go first, but and so, yes, so here's our most vulnerable populations that we serve the disabled persons with substance use disorders person with HIV or AIDS. Victims of domestic violence, we serve farm workers, homeless. Obviously, and veterans, and then those transitioning out of institutions, including, you know, jail or foster care nursing homes. So our current program, so we've done this for a year. So we opened up our applications last January 15th through February 15th, 2025. So it was a full month according to the HUD rules. And we have 132 families on the wait list, 98, I'm sorry, 98 participants are prioritized, which are the high vulnerable, um population um we provided our first assistance to uh one family in may 2025 and so now we're serving 12 families 92 of them 11 out of 12 are san marcos residents and um we receive funding for this case manager through through um city of san marcos but then a few other um Okay, so here's the problem. So it's a slow on-ramp to get started with this program. So TDHCA provides the rental assistance funding, but they only offer 10% of each rental assistance draw to pay for the staff to do the work. Since May 2025 to current, we drew, this is most recent data, we drew $93,000 for rental assistance for the 12 families over time. So as we get their application approved, then we go through the process of the next applicant and that next applicant. So some are getting approved, you know, they started in May and then, you know, maybe two got families and got approved in June and another July. And so, so up to 12 families, but we think at this rate in three years, We hope to serve at least 36 families drawing about 279,000 real assistance funding. So that's the hope in a few years we'll have a lot more families and therefore a lot more that 10% draw down. So that will eventually be able to be self sustaining. Through. Okay, so I'm going to quickly go through how it works. The client applies for the program, right? So we have those 98 on the list. The wait list is based on a lottery. TBRA process starts, you know, with the client. The household gets pre-approved. Once they're pre-approved, the family looks for a unit. Sometimes they already have one in mind. Sometimes we have to help them find a unit. then we develop a partnership with the landlord. The landlord has to be okay with us paying for it or a portion of it. We also do a unit inspection to make sure the environment, that it's a good house to live in, a good apartment to live in. The agreement is then signed. And then from there, our case manager does all the work, financial literacy, budgeting. We help with utility assistance. We use all our other resources programs to help the family, you know, with, you know, basically become self sufficient. So the agreement is signed, I'm sorry, I already said that we then we get every year, the family has to get recertified. So it's once a year, and then they only have it for two years. Okay, so the case manager responsibility is to administer the payments, to conduct the inspections, to provide the tenant support and the case management, to ensure compliance with TDHCA, and then obviously to facilitate the communication between the landlord and the client sometimes, and just having that dialogue to ensure self-sufficiency is happening, that they're working together on common goals. OK, so the landlord's responsibility and they have to, you know, do a MOU, but they provide safe sanitary housing, maintain compliance. Of course they still collect rent. We and we provide some of the rent. As I said, some sometimes a client pays a portion as well. Notified TBRA of issues. I guess it's notifying TDA and us of any issues and then of course follow the fair housing laws. And then the tenant responsibilities, of course, are families. They have to pay their rent share, follow the lease terms, you know, report any type of changes. They are involved in a self-sufficiency plan, and then, of course, they have to allow the inspections to happen. As I said, they do it early on the first month, and then they have to do it after another year. They have to make sure that everything looks okay in the house. So we think it's a good return on the investment. The housing remains, of course, and y'all know this, remains a high priority need in our community. The program, the TBR program will sustain the cost, we believe it will sustain the cost of a case manager in approximate two to three years. These funds contribute to also that case manager that works at Southside as well. As I said, she works Southside two days a week and at Community Action three days a week. Serves mainly San Marcos residents, 92%. And obviously the investment and a case manager leverages tens of thousands of dollars in rental assistance over time.

And that's that's that's it. Any questions?

Perfectly timed.

So we have about 10 minutes for questions. Of course, Linda and Madeline, please feel free to just jump in.

All right, I'll go. Hi, Doug.

Hi.

Hi. Thank you for being here. Absolutely. I just had a question. So I think from your presentation, you said that about $93,000 went to serve 12 families. So if my math is correct, it's a little over $7,700 per family. Is that a typical average that you guys allocate per family you serve? Or is there a typical average?

That is a good question. That's $7,700, I guess, for, and that's, if you think of that, it's like basically one year's worth of rent. Right. For each. So, I mean, that's. Seventy seven hundred divided by twelve.

It's like seventy seven fifty per family. Yeah. So that the ninety three thousand and twelve family. Yeah.

Yes, exactly. And that's like about six hundred and forty something dollars a month. Right. Per family. So they're paying a portion. of their rent and then the program is paying a portion of their rent. So yes, I think that's right.

Okay.

So that's what you guys typically spend per family that's in the program.

that's this year i mean we this program's new so we've only got one year's worth of data but i'm hoping that we get more families through um than we have for next for this next year thank you sure

So for the families on the waitlist, have they been on the waitlist for the last year?

Yes, they have. And certainly we, you know, and they're the vulnerable families. Well, there's 98 of them that are, I guess, less 12. But yes, so we try, what we do is we refer them to other services, Southside, you know, we're partners with VR3T. to help them while they're waiting absolutely and also we do all every one of them typically use us as our for utility assistance i mean i can't say that for sure 100 all of them and also the tbra program i did not mention this but they also do utility assistance um here and there um so we have the that service as well if you know, if they, once they fill out the application, because it's this same long application that TDHCA has.

Snow Rush.

All right. I think we're good on that one. And then the next one coming up is also Community Action Central Texas. I've got to move. One person Francesca is on as well.

OK, let me stop sharing. Hey, thank you all.

OK, thank you. Yeah, I know you were going to stick around. I see Francesca and then it's going to be.

So actually I'd love to stick around. Just I'm going to hide out. I'm just going to hide, but I'm going to be listening so I don't freak out.

So next we have San Marcos Senior Center representatives, so Francesco Ramirez and April De Leon. It's the San Marcos Senior Center run by Community Action Central Texas. So y'all are welcome to begin. Did you need to share your screen or anything?

Yes, ma'am.

Okay, you should be able to now.

Okay, can everybody see that?

Yes. Okay, perfect.

Thank you for having us, everybody. My name is Francesca Ramirez, and I am the Community Services Director for Community Action.

I am April DeLeon-Huggard, and I am the Center Director for the Senior Citizen Center.

So tonight we'd like to present the San Marcos Senior Citizen Center that falls under our agency of community action. So just a 60 second background on community action itself. This is our mission statement, helping Central Texans improve economic self-reliance through a wide range of services and community partnerships. this is our organizational chart of 2025 it it hasn't changed for this year so that's why i still have that one up and our board of directors is divided into three different areas between private entities public officials and representatives of low-income individuals and families these are the individuals that are currently on our board i highlighted karen lovin at the bottom there for the representatives of low-income individuals and families she has sat on our board a little over a year now and she is a member of our san marcos senior citizens center so the center opened 55 years ago back in 1971 and it is open monday through friday 8 a.m to 2 pm it is run by only two uh employees. They are full time at only 30 hours, not 40 hours. But April there in the middle in the blue shirt has been our center director for a little over 10 years. And then Erica Porter on the left there, she's our activities and volunteer coordinator since 2019. And then more or less each week, we have about three to eight volunteers who put in two to eight hours a week. In 2025, we had 16 volunteers that were new to the center. The only couple of qualifications to participate at the center that clients need to be age 60 and older, and they need to be independent. So meaning that they can kind of do for themselves, they can go to the bathroom by themselves. If they're in a wheelchair, that's okay. Or, you know, if they can't do those things for themselves, then they need to have a caregiver present. So what our center offers is a safe and welcoming family-like environment for seniors to meet others, for them to socialize, receive assistance with accessing a wider range of services, including April helps them complete our utility assistance application, and she makes referrals to the Area Agency on Aging in Austin. referrals to the food bank for assistance with SNAP applications. Depending on the circumstance, she does help fill out Social Security and Medicare apps. And just last month, she did assist six seniors with the rental assistance application for the TBRA program. So that in itself, I mean, can take almost a whole day to help one client fill out that application. Besides all of that assistance, Meals on Wheels does help us by providing daily hot lunches. And then we partner with the Hays County Food Bank on Tuesdays to provide fresh produce and meats to our seniors. This is just a small list of activities that go on throughout the week at the center, but for sure the seniors' favorites are Loteria. They play five to seven games a day. They do arts and crafts projects. They have a gardening and walking club. Health screenings, we have sponsors that come in and provide that for our clients. Education presentations. They get to shop a clothes closet every Friday to pick out some clothes. April and Erica do a really good job of celebrating their birthdays every month and then other holiday celebrations, including a turkey holiday meal distribution. And then the week of Christmas and Thanksgiving, April and Erica prepare a lunch for those seniors that don't have family to spend the holidays with. These are just some of our more common sponsors to the center right there. That's an example on the right-hand corner of Methodist Healthcare Ministries. A nurse comes in and takes the client's vitals. They check for blood sugar, things like that. We have a local restaurant in the area that is very generous and donates a lot of luncheons throughout the year and especially on the holidays. Senior living facilities and senior apartments come in and present, home health care providers, hospice care, funeral arrangements, insurance. People come in, talk about the different options that they can sign up for, rehab facilities, doctor offices. And most recently, there's been a group from Incarnate Word that have come in and provided a couple of grief counseling sessions for the seniors. We're really excited about our new sponsor that just came to us a couple of months ago. These are two social media content creators that live locally in the area that Melissa there has over a million followers on. Facebook and Instagram and TikTok so we were able to reach out to them and they are coming if not monthly than every other month with they're known for couponing so they collect all of these couponing items hygiene cleaning supplies and they are donating all of this to the senior citizen center so great pictures they've hosted loteria for us they came for a birthday celebration and donated all the cakes and coffees and heb bags for everyone full of these hygiene products and cleaning supplies so a couple of clients during the loteria won a keurig that they were super excited so We feel very blessed and very lucky to have them come so often. So just a few stats on what the past year's attendees look like at the center, kind of dating back three years. So in the middle of COVID, we were having 83 attendees come by the end of December 2023, the majority of all of these years are San Marcos residents. 2024, we saw an increase to 116 residents coming. And when we say come to the center, they're participating in at least one or more activities per week. They may not come every day, but they are participating in something throughout the week. December 2025, we just, I mean, it's basically the same number as 2024, just a slight decrease of four. But already four months in, this is the number as of the end of April, 95, rolled 95 unduplicated clients. So we are looking like we are going to break that record of 112 clients from last year or so. And then these are funding sources are operating costs to run the Center is a little over 100,000 and we have added extra funders this year in 2026 to. help us cover those costs St david's is our biggest funder this year with 24% Hayes county at 22. City of San Marcus at 19, as well as CAPCOG or the Capital Area Council of Governments. And then Burdine Johnson is new to us. They've donated 14% of our funding and our community services block grant with community action that's funded by TDHCA has contributed 2%. We've also done some in-house within community action fundraisers. So every year we do a Christmas in July where it's a competition between all our programs and each program contributes by donating arts and craft supplies, cleaning supplies, hygiene products things like that so fortunately every year since it began in 2023 we have collected over a thousand items to give back to the seniors and a heater drive that we do in December began three years ago as well and to date we've collected 69 heaters and these are just a couple of pictures of what that looks like we're about to gear up for our next Christmas in July and uh so the request for funding from the city of san marcos is 22 000 which makes up about 21 of our operating costs and this is this would be the breakdown of where that money would go uh between salaries and fringe benefits we're looking at about almost 9 400 and then materials supplies arts and crafts things like that office supplies would be a thousand The majority of the costs would go to the center operations, maintenance, janitorial, utilities at $11,419, and just some local travel at $200. And then, Carol, if we have a couple of minutes, I don't know if we do, but April would love to share a senior story.

I think that's a good idea. We're at 11 minutes, but it seems like questions don't ever take a total. So go ahead. Okay.

Okay.

So we had a gentleman join us in March and he has a diagnosis of COPD and struggling mental health wise. He lost his mother and he was in isolation. He has trust issues with people and he was in a deep depression in isolation and he came to us in March and it took a while to kind of gain his confidence and his trust, but, um, he started to, um, make friends and socialize and join our grief counseling that we just recently, um, started. And he is a success story because he's making friends and he's getting out of the house, even though it's very difficult for him. So, uh, we're very proud of him and he is one of, um, several that we try to help get out of that anxiety and depression that they are suffering, um, at home.

Thank you very much. We're just at 12 minutes. So y'all have eight to ask questions anytime.

That's pretty clear.

All right. I don't see any questions. So I think we'll go on to the next. I appreciate y'all coming in and presenting.

Thank you so much.

Thanks, y'all.

Thank you.

Thank you.