Arts Commission - Regular Meeting

Alright. It is 03/25/2026 at 05:44PM, and we are I'm calling this meeting to order.

Alright. Roll call. Catherine Cargill.

Here.

Rick Garcia.

Here.

Haslyn Holley. Here. Sheridan Schafer.

Here.

Arthur Simon. Simone. Arthur Simone. Simone.

That's me. Hi. Here.

Jason Weems? Here. And Sarah Wheatfield?

Present.

Very good. Next up, Susan, comments. There are none present, and nobody signed up. Next up is minutes. Consider approval by motion of the 02/25/2026 meeting minutes.

And motion

And motion from Sarah. I'll second. Alright. We have motion and second.

Uh-oh. So fraud, all all in favor?

Aye.

And none opposed? Motion carries seven zero. Alright. Next up, we've got the new arts commissioner introduction. So item two, introduce new arts commissioners, Catherine Cargill, Sheridan Schaffer, and Arthur DeMalt.

Hello. I'm Kate or yeah. I go by Kate. So I'm excited to be here, so thank you.

Welcome. Thank you.

Do we here we'd love to hear a little bit about you as a artist, what brought you in, if that's possible, to see, like, what what your thinking in art or why you decided to be a part of the Sure.

So I have a degree in art. So I'm originally from Dallas. So I always grew up going to museums and everything between Fort Worth and Dallas. And then my husband and I moved here, 2019 And so I always been, like, loving the arts, and I think San Marcos has a good art scene and things to that nature. And so it's always been, like, in my blood of, like, doing something.

And so I decided when I filled out

the application to be on the board if selected, and here I am. So I hope can do some positive with you guys.

Wonderful. Thank you.

Thank you. Arthur Smith? I'm Arthur Smith. I've always been part of arts organizations. My grandmother founded the symphony in Louisiana, Marjorie Lyons Playhouse. My mother has always been an arts educator, and I've wanted to be others myself. I've always been a painter with the Stause and Studio Tour. I think this time around, again, with the Mothership San Marcos studio tour, which is two weekends away.

Uh-huh.

I invite all of you guys to come check out my spot on number 77. It's very high. I have a lot of new paintings that I'm excited about because I took a long break from painting when my child was born and throughout the time of pandemic. I got all of my brushes on full of rocks. Sculpture.

I'm also a professional on a lot of things. I have a child now. In particular, it's in San Marcos schools, and I just wanna be part of the community at large. I also sometimes do the artwork at Art Square, the workhouse. So I've always been involved in a lot of different things. Oh, and in in Austin, where I lived for a number of years, I was one of the cofounders of Coldtown Theater.

Oh, okay. Cool.

Comedy club. Still is a comedy, but I sold out my share long ago. But I'm very familiar with what it takes to keep a arts organization running and in space and all the trials and tribulations. And I wanna ease the suffering of the artists of tomorrow so that they

may focus on curves and angles and light.

That's it, man.

That's it.

You. A little bit for that.

Think you can.

I really can. Thank you. Sheridan?

Hey. I'm Sheridan. I moved to San Marcos in 2020 from Austin. Huge arts fan. I think it's a hugely vital important part for community health, vitality, really creating a sense of place. And I think from what I've seen in San Marcos, it has a really good thriving arts scene, and I just wanna do anything I can to help keep that moving forward and keep it bigger you know, make it bigger and brighter. Love all the murals. I you know, long time theater student. I did acting a lot of acting programs. I was in band.

I play percussion and piano. And just we yeah. My husband and I used to go to the East Austin studio tour for years and years in Austin, and so seeing that now we have our Is it the third annual Santa Barbara studio? Yes. Yeah. It's just so exciting to see that we have that happening here, and I'm just excited to be involved and to get involved with this city. It really feels like this is gonna be our forever home. So it's about the time to step up and get involved.

Well, thank you all for joining the fun and for saying yes to life and getting off the couch. I think that's wonderful. We're excited to be with you, and we're all excited to get to know you as we as we work together. I'll introduce Should we go ahead and go around? Okay. Yeah. My

name is Aslan Haulier. I moved to San Marcos myself in 2021, December 2021. I and then I also had a kid simultaneously. He came the next year. So like Arthur was saying, I'm, you know, really big on getting involved in the community.

My art background comes from I have a theater degree in theater performance and creative writing. And I am also a certified chef, so culinary artist. And I've done a lot of teaching for, like, kids acting studio. I've taught kids how to cook and act and bake and all kinds of stuff like that. So that's kind of my art background. And I started this commission in December. So I'm fairly new to the whole thing, so we're all in this together.

Yeah. And then that comes. Oh, yeah.

Great.

I'm Rick Garcia. I own and operate special events facility called Eastwood Hill, which is northwest of town. And we're a 20 acre property, which I am still developing as an artist community. I am also the founder and the owner of a nonprofit, the Meister Arts Project. I'm a I'm a theater artist, and I have created this organization to support primarily rural young artists and rural educators that don't have access to urban arts.

And the organization funds. So for camps for kids, training for directors that are thrown into directing the UI when I play, and they have no idea. They're going theater, so I train those individuals as well as provide scholarships for those kids that need a little assistance to get into college in their fine arts training, which created a very unique scholarship where we award a current junior and high school monies to assist them to even begin the college search process, which is a unique sort of scholarship that we provide. Okay. So that's sort of me. Thanks. Glad y'all are here.

I'm Jason Weems. I am you know, for most of my life, I've been a singer songwriter, and that's kinda how I sort of came up as an as a young adult, and that's still a big part of my life. But I also joined into tourism, and that opens the doors. Like, I wrote The History Lovers Guide to Austin and The Texas Barbecue Adventure Guide, so I'm a lot of barbecue. And I worked for a company that does virtual tours.

Now they have an in person company in Atlanta, but I've worked for their virtual side, and I'm their event designer. So I'm a writer and a graphic designer and an event producer. And that you know, I have a weird resume, so that's kinda like in my it wears a lot of the hats I'm I'm comfortable with. And whenever I moved to San Marcos, it was in 2023 or so, and I wanted to from South Austin. And I wanted to get into music, and I wanted to get into some sort of volunteerism.

So I joined the art commission, and for a long time up until very, very, very recently, I was the cohost of the San Marcos songwriter showcase, the Monday open mic contra, and did the interviews and the booking of the curated part of that. I'm taking my show to KCSC now and doing that on a larger platform as a a way to hopefully make the life of artists a little bit easier like we're talking about a minute ago, Arthur. You know, ways to make songwriters have a few more doors open. So that's kind of my passion is, you know, bring people together, opening doors, and and incubating young artists that are coming up in the scene, you know, make it a little easier for them. And, yeah, I think that's it.

I'm currently serving the commission as the as the vice chair, and and we're all gonna be doing some shuffling around. We'll talk about it later, but, yeah, I'm happy to help and serve as much as I can.

Sarah?

Sarah, I I my parents are been an artist.

I

started dancing. And

so then in high school and middle school, it was like

musical theater, visual arts, sculpture, all that. So

I have a associate's degree in dance and choreography. I have a bachelor's in in arts and entertainment technologies, the anthropology and cultural focus. Mhmm. And I am currently pursuing my master's in digital communications. I am the digital media specialist at the Meadows Center for Water and

Okay.

Grew up in Austin, so I participated in couple of months out there. Lots of local dance and movies and things like that. So my sort of main focus is performing arts and getting more of that. I mean, bring more space for that here in San Marcos. We've got a lot of action at artists, but not a lot spaces that are necessarily a lot of parade for rehearsal or moments.

Fill that up. So that's kind of the,

I guess.

Mhmm. Also, we have the people that we work with at the city. Right now, have Trey and Rettendo. We've lost a missing one person who's usually here often here, Charlotte, if y'all haven't heard yet. Shay, would you say hello? Yeah.

So I'm Trey Pad. I'm the arts coordinator for the city. I've been doing that since the 2018. And then before that, I was in the communications department for City. And then my arts background is creative right. Kind of what drew me to this position from the communications department.

I'm Rebecca, and I have no arts background whatsoever, but I enjoy music too. So that's my art, the love of art, of music. But I've been employed with the with the invention and visitor bureau and visit San Marcos. We've had some meetings, transition, and now we are at Visit San Marcos for thirty years. So I have this is my hometown. Moved here when I was my parents moved here when I was two and a half, and I'm very fortunate to have this job to promote the city. But we have a wonderful team. There are seven of us, and everybody does a great job and makes me look like I do such a fabulous job.

The website is amazing. Yep.

I'm sorry? The website is amazing. You. You. That was a collaborative effort of a lot of staff members, but Simple View is the company that that we work with. So but we have a great team. Trey and Charlotte do an amazing job of overseeing the arts program.

And just for those who are new, especially, you know, Trey, Charlotte, Rebecca, and the whole team are just amazing. Help us make sure we can color in the lines, if you pardon the pun, as we figure out how we help. You know? They'll help us make sure we stay with the city and allow and stay away from what the city can't. So that keeps us from having to waste our time and our efforts on things that are dead ends. And so that use it, you know, ask them to have conversations. And another person who I hope will hear from a moment is, Philly.

Actually, we can just segue to this.

There we go.

But with You didn't. Yeah. Next next. Here's the next item.

Yeah. So should we go ahead and go to our next items on the agenda?

Absolutely. Item four. Oh, three. Almost hit

you. I

know. Right?

I've received a presentation presentation from for formal arts commission chair Kelly King Green.

Okay. Well, I'm

no. Feel free. Feel free.

It's very casual. I'm Kelly King Green, and I had the privilege of firming out. I reached my term limit, which is wonderful because we get to hear fresh voices and part of the reason why y'all are all here. Someone else also turned out at the same time. So this is kind of unique for staff to have so many new commissioners come in at once. And so they asked me to just kind of share some, like, point of view, tips and tricks, what I learned along the way, like, ease y'all in, but then also

go back.

So you can get Thank you so much. So I started well, professionally, how I connect to the city and to the arts is I I'm the creative director for Texas State University's marketing and communications office. So I yeah. I work for the university. So I've but I live here, and I'm a graphic artist.

And I love to do all kinds of art, and I love to advocate for art. So personal stuff. That's what brought me to arts commission in 2020. And I started serving during COVID, which was all this very interesting transition just like everybody else was experiencing. And I think some things I've been trying to fit since staff asked me to come and talk, tried to think of things that were either, like, key findings or learnings or I mean, I had the best experience serving for six years.

So congratulations. Because it is more than just a volunteer position once a month. One of the things that I think is was really helpful for our group, which became very productive and efficient, was to get to know each other outside of the meetings themselves. So sharing cell phone numbers as practical as that is, being able to talk in between, but you have to be very careful in pauses in of the open meetings kind of regulations and rules. And so Trey and and Charlotte can definitely help you understand, like, who you could talk, how many people you could talk to, when you can talk.

It's tricky. It's tricky to get work done with kind of those those parameters, but there are workarounds. So texting one off person at a time is completely don't be intimidated by open records rules. I guess it's something I would encourage you. I was very intimidated at the beginning and felt like I could only talk to folks in this room once a month, and that's not true.

In fact, I think it's really helpful to think of and Jason and Sarah and Eslan and Rick, I think, would agree. It's helpful to think of this time once a month as a time to either have a productive conversation and reach a consensus or vote on something. And then the time in between meetings is really where you put your head down and work on the projects. Mhmm. So if you can kind of, like, dedicate time outside, it is absolutely essential that you dedicate time outside of this monthly meeting to work on the projects that are kind of, like, laid down and agreed upon by the group.

Emailing staff, they're wildly receptive and really helpful, but also have, you know, full time jobs doing convention and visitors bureau responsibilities. So really, it's it's doing the work in between meetings is is a really kind of productive way to think about it. Also, I would say that we worked well as a as a group, and we really kinda hit our stride when we would have short term goals and long term goals. So we would just we would outline kind of these are the projects we're working on right now, and at the same time, kind of stagger what we're envisioning to come down the road because you will learn that it takes it takes a long time for public art to get administered. It sounds like there's plenty of experience and knowledge in that.

It's not something I have to tell this group because you already know that, but there are multiple phases of a project, and staff will help you understand what those phases need to be. They'll add structure to the projects. But it's good to have something kind of running in the foreground and then working towards the thing in the background, which we got really good at kind of helping with staff phase things out. Okay. We're gonna work on this one, and then we're gonna focus on this one, and then we're gonna focus on that one, and always keeping something in. So there's some projects that are y'all are gonna inherit it because they've been moving forward. What else do I wanna say? Get people's cell phone numbers. That was huge. That was really helpful.

I I've had plenty of nice productive art. It kind of sessions, you know, over lunch. You know? Lunch would take them. You know? Like, so that if that's feasible, it's possible to do that. Don't give it to me. You know, we're artists. So if someone gives us a rule,

then we do, but I don't wanna break a rule. Yeah. What

else? Some projects that have been really amazing that we've been able to see in the last six years kind of come to fruition. You know, one that comes to mind first for me, and I think it's because of the just the sheer scale of it, is the mural. We call it the gateway mural, but the massive mural behind like, on the physical building of industry restaurant along the train tracks

that took time. And

it got really in the weeds because Trey had to advocate to even get the railroad commission to approve for that to be done. So this is the kind of thing that you're gonna you're gonna know way more about. But I think a piece like that really it all came together in such a way where everybody was aligned, and the budget that was allocated was appropriate for kind of an international artist to come. The call beautifully administered. The support, the artist was hardworking, and it it all shows in the quality of the work.

You will get a kind of a push and pull sitting in the seats to advocate for local artists. And while that is all well and good, I I I always took a point of view that part of San Marcos is growing, and it needs to be drawing visitors. A large part of the funding of this group is funded through hotel occupancy tax. So I would encourage all to understand and set out projects that are with an understanding of how the project is funded. So we wanted the group where we we saw a lot of merit in hiring people from outside of the community, like, artists to grow the collection of San Marcos.

So that's one that comes to mind. We're putting the art, all the sculptures in front of the library.

If you haven't walked through that, kind

of naming that space, working on that space, being purposeful about that becoming an outdoor gallery. Rick has a big vision that we've all kind of agreed that being cognizant of where we're placing art so that we create a purposeful experience of art within the community, which serves, obviously, you know, the local San Marcos residents as well as visitors so that there's kind of a a pathway and a strategy there instead of it being haphazard, which there's some key markers. You know, there's some public art, and there's some gaps to fill. So that was one of the things we all agreed upon. Trying to think we brought a kite exhibit to the library.

That was a really productive project because the it wasn't a huge burden on staff, and it wasn't a big burden on the commission. It was something that already existed in the world that just needed a place to be housed and shared. So it's beyond kind of, you know, if there's a if there's a group you wanna bring or performance you wanna bring or existing body of work that belongs in San Marcos for a rationale and would drive visitors to come, that's something you could think about as well. That was really.

And the the library's glass project.

Yeah.

I mean, a major part and thank you for bringing that up. Because a major part of the service of this group is to administer the grant funding allocations. So you'll be overseeing grant proposals, which Trey has improved that process over the years. That's really changed since I started in 2020. It's really a good experience.

You review all the grant proposals, and then as a group, you decide who gets how much money, and it's difficult. It's difficult to do that because we all care about our and they give you a good guidelines of how and what why people should be funded. But in that funding, we got a grant a few years ago for a multi location, which is one of the first projects ever. Why am I blanking on the artist who is from San Marcos that the stained glass window is inspired by puts the famous artist.

Yes. I too am blanking.

Yeah.

He's an African American artist, and he became known in our world in the sixties and seventies for minimalist

art. Yeah.

He's got a

really important artist that was unearthed by someone at the galleries of Texas State, but then Bill Hudson.

Bill.

Hudson. Thank you. It's okay. I have the art map open. Thank you. So

that artist the city or the city in conjunction with the university, in conjunction with the library became a multi destination exhibit of his work. He had a home selling brand or his family because he wasn't able to join. And that was so well received, and then the community became aware of this art through this process and through that grant, which was an amazing grant. Mhmm. Then an artist the the artist at River City Glassworks did a stained glass window that was inspired by his piece called home.

And so that's kind of that's how interconnected these things and these thoughts and these ideas can be. Really, truly, like, a grant proposal can turn into a multistaged event that then can turn into a permanent piece of art. And conversations that you have with each other when you start picking up on the themes of things, then that's kind of what has been productive for us to pursue. Right.

That's all I can say. And then we'll go over some of that in the next in the next Yeah. Item.

Thank you, Kelly.

Okay. Believe you. Thank

you, Kelly.

Nice to meet you, Kelly.

You Enjoy your time. Thanks, Kelly.

Your work,

Nice to

meet you. Thank you.

Thank you, Kelly.

Father, pray a lot.

Okay. Get on the agenda.

Bye.

Alright. Next up, receive a staff presentation on duties and responsibilities of arts technician. Yeah.

I will

In front of you, you have our handout. Yeah.

Alright.

Yep. So we put together a a presentation just kind of as an overview of Parks Commission's duties and responsibilities, guidelines, and everything. Often, we will do this for individual commissioners. But this time, since we have three people coming in at the same time, we decided to do this as a presentation here in open session, and then also let people who were who have been on commission just have it as a referral. And then you also got printouts as well, Atkins.

So first off, our mission statement is to support a tribute to the artistic vitality, first cultural heritage, and economic prosperity of our city in an effort to distinguish it from other communities while promoting tourism in sand markets. Our meetings are four Wednesday of the month at 05:30PM. Use it at various spaces in the community, various spaces being here. We forgot to We used to

be in different locations, but now it's just easier to have it here with with Teams.

And the technology has been upgraded as well, so that was a capital part of that as well. Meetings are in person, but we use Teams to record them. And then, citizen comment can be in person or via Teams. So the duties provide oversight for the expenditure of city and hotel occupancy tax funds for the promotion of the arts and recommended policies to government's placement of temporary less than twelve months and permanent display of art, twelve months or more on city property for approval by the city council. One of the things that we have going on is the 50% well, this is the term you'll hear a lot.

So each fifth fiscal year, at least 50% of arts hot allocations for the city is reserved for public art programming, while the remainder funds the annual art cultural grant program, which we're gonna explain later on here. So, basically, 50 per you know, up to 50% for public art programming and then the other 50 for grant programming.

So a 100% of the hotel on this text goes to no.

Okay. He'll talk he'll go into details later. I knew I knew that would be confusing. I'm glad that you asked that, but so we'll talk about it later.

Oh, the art.

Art. Art. Yep.

I wish.

But Yeah.

Definitions, public art includes those major art forms that will enhance the arts and cultural life in the sit in San Marcos and encourage tourism to the city. And so this long list here is taken straight from the states state law, basically. So we just the the opposite of that. So public art includes instrumental, vocal music, dance, drama, folk art, creative writing, architecture, design and allied fields, painting, sculpture, photography, graphic and craft arts, motion pictures, radio, television, tape and sound recording, and other arts related to presentation, performance, execution, and exhibition of these major forms. Our funding sources, 2026 fiscal year for grants, we've allocated 900 or crunch.

99,000. Almost gave us a big raise. 99,000, and this must generate tourism here. And then from general fund allocations, 95,000.

Which doesn't have the tourism No. Apartment attached.

Correct. And then for permanent art, we were allocated 5,000, but we have approximately 500,000 in reserve funding. So, basically, we kinda carry over funding that wasn't spent in previous years. It was is held over. And so, basically, it's it's accessed through a process that when it comes up, we'll get with Rebecca and

let's see.

That's how that that happened. Oh, we've hot use. So majority of the city's arts programs are funded with, hotel occupancy tax revenues pledged from local hotels. And so this has to be spent according to state rules and encourage tourism to San Juan. And then the city also provides locally collected general fund monies, can be used for programs with primarily local interests such as children's art programs, etcetera.

They're not expected to generate tourism, and these funds are collected locally and offer the city more discretion there. The hot tax funded programming and arts and everything, we don't set the rules for how that's spent. That's state law. So, you know, pretty cut and dry. We we follow state law.

There's no real place to pay or anything. And then but every year, we're also allocated general fund money, and that's where we can do, you know, things like, you know, kids art programming and everything that is in no way expected. There's no way somebody's gonna come stay overnight from out of town for kids. You know? Kids aren't camp or whatever. Yet we still Grandpa. Kids. Well,

we target that the programming for general fund is for our community. It's for our local individuals. So we want to invest in that as well, and that's why city council gave us money gentleman many years ago. So it's for the purpose of marketing.

Yeah. Kind of follow the the whole thinking is that a place that residents enjoy and think is cool is going to attract visitors because the visitors will think it's cool if we think it's cool. I have

a small questions. Sure. Your Airbnb's pay. Yes.

They should register. They should register. And when they register, they're given a packet on how to collect and pay off to Martha.

Yeah. The efficient policy is up there, Martha.

So we have I do see. Have approximately 85 that are registered with the city. Now there's many more than that, but that's what we have registered. And we do have a program through our neighborhood enhancement department, which is part of the code enforcement. They that's not their software, and it calls the web the Internet.

And so it'll find anyone that's in San Marcos that may be listed on websites, and then that's when our staff or not our staff, but the neighborhood enhancement staff will then reach out to them to get them to register. So there are city ordinances on how and actually operate and where you can operate in their beauty or short term rental.

So going back to the arts and cultural grants we've heard so much about. So we've got we've we've got grants that are funded through hot tax and through general fund. We have the tourism smart grant. Those are hot funded. The community grant is general funding.

Maximum funding for each application is 50% of the program's budget, with the exception of spark grants, which is 90% with a maximum award of 3,000. And they can only have received city funding for up to three years. So the Spark grant is kind of our incubator grant to get people started, and, hopefully, they graduate to our tourist grant. Application window opens in the summer, and as we get closer to that, we'll put it to the public, obviously. And the arts commission makes the work decisions during the October meeting.

So that meeting is the single agenda item, and that's to allocate the arts funding.

Okay. But this one so then there's other grants that are complete signature classic and then impactful events grants, but these grants are not managed or approved by the commission. Those but they're in the staff committee, an internal staff committee of our staff and then throughout the entire city on who the amounts those received. Signature events are those that have been in existence for three successful over three or more years that have an economic impact that generate over 5,000 people to the event, but 50% of those must be from out of town. So Sacred Springs, Powell, Summer in the Park, and Sights and Sounds, those are all three our three current signature events.

And then the classic event are those that have been in existence for, like, I remember the years, but it would be farmer's market, Heritage Home Tour, and just for fun qualifying, but they have to be a nonprofit. So that's why they haven't received anybody. And then an impactful event would be a new event, three years or less, and the current event that qualifies for that is airshow.

And then as we get closer to to our tourism and community grants opening, we'll give you more detailed instructions about how that goes down. But it's a it's a process. This the this past or currently, we've got, I think, close to 30 grants out. So that is thirty thirty applications that you'll be reviewing. We've got online web portal.

And what Kelly was talking about with the homework, you know, this is one of those things. So you once we release the grants for review, you'll go into the web portal and actually grade them according to, you know, according to how you feel they they should go. And then one of the one of the criteria that you're grading on is what do you think the what do you think is a fair amount to award? And so we take the averages of what everybody thinks the award should be, take that average, and that's kind of the starting point for the, you know, for the discussion for the the grant allocations. And, like, literally, that's you know, we'll have a spreadsheet up.

And so, okay. Here's how much we've got at the top of the spreadsheet. Here's all the requests. Here's what y'all thought it was worth. We're x thousand in the hole, so let's start adjusting. Or, you know, previous years, those would be blank, and it would just be like, what do we think, guys? And so I think this is a I think this is a more You know? To you

know, it gives you kind of a

a starting point.

And Yeah. And into the larger point, if we individually can put a little bit in outside of here, then when we come here, we can actually accomplish something in a little time we have. Yep.

Okay. The eligibility for the grant. So you gotta be in either nonprofit nonprofit tax exempt organizations registered with the IRS and in good standing with city and a

Texas opt for a lawyer.

Double check and make sure that they're still actively, you know, in good standing with the. You know, states, you know, web search and everything. And in good standing with Citi means they have to fulfill all the requirements of any previous grants. Also, arts focused businesses and the individual artist projects are eligible. It depends upon the grant type.

So the hot tax hot funded grants, you can have individual artist projects and arts focused businesses. But then for the, community grants, those have to be nonprofit. Applicants must have fulfilled all requirements than previously funded projects, including final reports, and applicants may not receive funding from any other city department, board, or commission who distributes, hot tax funds or general fund, including in kind donations. So there's no getting a grant from the arts commission and then going to streets department asking for barricades and everything. That was a a a point of discussion of previous years.

So we've I think we've done a really good job of kind of, you know, bringing reigning the.

Do you think that the Only nonprofits can qualify for the community grant, so individual artists in the community can't get funding unless it generates tourism? Correct.

Yeah. Alright. Also, the mural arts program, three of you will be elected to the mural arts committee later on in the in the agenda here. Both of you here, though, the city's mural arts program deters graffiti and beautifies the community with murals placed on both city owned and on private property. The program's funding hot revenues, so whatever murals go up have to be accessible to the public and promote tourism.

And they also have to discourage vandalism and graffiti. This fiscal year's funding is 3,000, but we've got approximately a 148,000

in reserves that we've accessed. And can I just make a brief comment? Once a year, I think, the hot tax here's a hot tax. What is it? So we have a guy that comes in and and

gets An educational session.

Yes. Like a seminar per day or something like that. It's actually really helpful. Whenever it comes up, you should definitely try to take it. But what he tries to get across is, like, as a hotel, they agree to pay these extra as a hotel group, they agree to pay these extra taxes, and so they wanna make sure they're getting some bang for the buck. So for artists, like you mentioned, that they they have to add a element of of tourism to it. You know, instead of making a one day event, make it a two day event. You know, it's little things like that. Like, it's a way of if we can think broadly and inclusively about this organization that's providing the money, then it makes it to where the burden on the artist becomes an asset sometimes. You know? I just wanna bring up.

Yeah. Sure. Thank you. Yeah. The the the tourism part of it comes up sometimes because we'll have we've had, you know, apartment complexes come to us. They're like, hey. We want a mural, fire, or pool. And the question is, cool. Do you want public crossing your fence and looking at the mural? And the answer is no. No. So that's and then also, like, you know, industrial buildings and stuff. Schools. Schools can't yeah. You know, anywhere.

It has to be public.

It has to public. Public space.

There's a

there's a mural that somebody said recently got painted over by, I think, Sesam.

By Tatron?

Or By Yeah. On Sesam on Sesam Drive. Yes. And that was due to all the graffiti. It was constantly yeah. It was just unfortunate that just people kept tagging it. It was there to deter, it really did attract it because of its location. So yeah. Yeah. That was one of our projects.

But, you know, mean, I don't know. Did I already say it like a permanent I think I said it somewhere on me. A permanent project is actually a year. Right?

Like, 100 more. So yeah.

I mean, it served its purpose.

We get our we get our money's worth as we say in five years. So if it's up there five years, then

How long is that?

Five years before COVID. Yeah. Just prior to COVID. Yeah.

So kinda it's it's like dead people's I mean, it feels like that to me. It's like when it feels aged, the society does its thing. The ants come in.

And and then something else about that one that that was kind of a lesson learned is that drainage feature often is, you know, flooded with water. You know? Also damaged. So so just from the the normal use of that drainage feature feature was damaging the mineral, And then, also, you know, it's getting overgrown. And

The humidity of the that was because of the water that inside the.

Yeah. So we've got we learned some learned some valuable lessons with that. So

We had good intentions.

We had good intentions. So we're going, you know, going forward, we we avoid painting any kind of water features or anything like that. We learned the hard way. Something else we learned the hard way is we refined our our building use agreements. So with with murals that are on private property, we have the building owner sign an agreement that will be filed with the county and be attached to the deed of property and transfer to, you know, future purchasers buying the property over to keeping the mural up for five years.

And that's always been the the rule is five years. It's gotta be up for five years. Before, we were just having them sign an agreement, and we thought that was that Not enough. And ask us how we know that it's not enough. If you're if you're familiar with Ervingburg or Hopkins with that nice big white wall and everything, we had a we had a mural on that, and it was Less than

a year?

Less than, like, couple months maybe. And then the owner sold it, the new owners first put their own advertising type mural over it, which opened a whole other can of worms for them because we've also got the sign worms. Where where was this? This is not an octave place.

It's not true across from

h b, little h b.

They have my chicken place that's been there. Wage changed.

Yeah. Okay.

It actually heats Holy shit. Oh. Oh, so But but somebody posted on social media that he had her back. It wasn't him. It was his nephew.

I know what we're talking about now.

Yeah. Which is urban urban. Right? Yes.

Oh, man.

We we've learned

Crazy stuff.

We've

Over the last three years, we've,

Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah.

But, yeah, just some just some things to be aware of with with the mural arts program and everything. So the communities, consist of three arts commission members, city staff, so two art staff. So, currently, it's me in Charlotte, and the neighborhood enhancement representative Amy Tamides, who is now the

Interim interim director. Of neighborhood enhancement. We had the director of neighborhood enhancement and the assistant director both retiring. So Oh, wow.

And then we also have a Texas State University art representative who's Michelle Sodolongo. And I am her her title was the university escaping

me right now, and she's been a long time. So

there's to ask her, seek out good locations for mural placement, whether it's city owned or privately owned property. Consider requests from building owners seeking murals on the property. Finalize project locations, and call for artist language, and then make artist selections for projects. Alright. Boot Nelson, mark arts master plan.

So this kind of this doc that kinda guides the kinda gives the the overall goals and reasoning behind what we're doing. So it it kind of works twofold. One, it kind of tells us where we need to be going, but it also is a document that we can point to and say before our projects and say, hey. You know, we wanna do x y z. It answers these three goals in the arts master plan.

And if if anybody has any questions about why we're doing anything in particular, at least, you know, city justification for it. So, you know, guiding documents for city officials has accept policy related to arts and culture in San Marcos, including, you know, city council. If they have any questions about, you know, hey. Why are we allocating funding, you know, to arts or in this you know, these amounts or whatever? We have an adopted master plan that they can refer to.

It also serves as a road map, but not an itemized task list for our arts commission or staff. And then we also encourage local arts and cultural organizations to read and use it as the findings and recommendations were the results of extensive public input. It is available online. If I haven't already, I'll send out a link to the PDF. It's good

to read. Y'all should check it out. I'll be getting a handle with the city Yeah. Things we should do. And then

I know it's a lot. Thank you so much for a great serve on the arts dimension. If you have any questions, email, me or Charlotte. And then our website is San Marcos. It is smtxarts.com. There we go. Both of

on that website, it will have a map, and there is a map an art map, and it'll list every single project that we've overseen, and there's a few others that are not art commitment projects or art mural projects or mural art program.

And they need.

But they are listed, there's 94 total listed and about eighty eighty two of those are arts commission and mural art program projects. They're funded with Oh.

Are there any that are under your purview that's far outside the city limits?

No. We can only spend our funds within the city limits. Yeah.

And that's all for that. Like I said, if ever have any questions, email Charlotte and me. It's on the subject of emails just to be sure. You know? So when if you have anything that needs to go to the full send it to us, and then we will send it to the arts commission. Don't send anything to artscommission@SanMarcostips.gov because that's an instance both meetings act violation.

So So I do wanna share that I'm so sure which I was supposed to prepare the this for him, and I forgot. So the city collects a total of $3,700,000 in hotel occupancy tax for programming for the city. We also collect 2%, so 7%. When you go to a hotel, you spend the night in San Marcos, you pay 15%. So six of that goes to the state, seven goes to city programming, and then 2% is the tax that is approved by citizens of San Marcos to pay for the debt of the conference center.

So eventually, we will go as a city, we will have a program or a project that we want to use a 2% for. So until then nor take it to the citizens. But until then, the 2% will continue paying the dental conference center. So that's the $1,000,000. So of the 3.6 3,700,000.0 that we collect, 15% max of that 3.7 can be used for arts.

So that includes staff, all the staff time. Now that we have an arts program, it's easier to calculate exactly how much we're spending on arts. So that is one reason that if you amend the presentation, the arts programs only received either 5,000 or $3,000. It's because we gave up money to create an arts manager that the job hasn't been posted yet, but Charlotte will be moving into that position because she was basically doing two jobs, the creative side of the of the marketing, and then she was also overseeing arts. So she will step into that role.

So hotel motel is taxes aren't doing so well, so that's another reason that we decrease those amounts. But we because we have money in reserves, like you mentioned, $500,000, and traditionally, we would receive between a 100 and a $150,000 per year. So we weren't spending it all. And then during COVID, we also didn't spend it all. So there is money there. It's not that we don't have it, so that's why it was only allocated to 5,000 and the 3,000. So

So do we have a date for that new position yet?

I'm sorry? Do we

have a date when that position will be

Well, it was supposed be in January, but and part of that is my fault. But we were trying to save money for the city because our hotel, Moto, Texas, is doing so well. So we were trying my goal was to save money. They asked us to consider that, and so we did. And now it's just trying to trying to finalize the job description. So

Thank you. You're

We sorry for that. We review the work events for the arts commission that's in the city code. I know

We'll provide that to you in the next packet. Okay. Okay. Or we'll probably provide it to you with email. A lot more detailed information if you wanna sit there and read it. And Okay. Thank you for asking. Absolutely.

Alright. That concludes this brief brief by us on, on the arts commission. Now it's, you'll you'll pick it up. You know? And then, again, as we get closer to individual projects and tasks and everything, we'll be sure to go more in-depth into, you know, what's in the.

Alright. Next up, item five, officer elections and committees. Hold elections on parts commission chair and vice chair for one year terms to begin 04/01/2026. And so, Jason, if you open up the boards and nominations Okay. And then you make nominations.

And

Alright. So do it one one at a time. Yeah. Let's do chair first. Okay. So we will open up nominations for chair for arts commission chair.

You can self nominate.

I will serve as chair if you would like me to.

I was gonna

I was gonna nominate.

All third by.

Better nominated again. And then second. Yeah. Second.

Oh, no. Sir, I'm sorry. I messed up a little bit. So we've got both chair and vice chair as a single agenda

item. So we'll it.

So we'll do it at the same time.

I'd like to nominate Sarah Lunfot as vice chair.

High second. High third.

Alright.

It was almost like y'all just

Good job, guys.

I'm just saying I came into this thinking that anyway.

No. I I recognize your name, and I, like, thought I

was supposed see

you in a year. Okay. Let me see.

No. I love to know why I've never been. I'm it's interesting that you recognize my name. That's exciting. Yeah. Alright.

So we've got a print a real simple slate here. So we've met nobody else wants to be put in consideration for chair or vice chair. Because if not, then we'll need somebody to make a motion nominating Jason as chair and Sarah as vice chair.

So I have both Haslyn and Kate because they were the ones that nominated them, so I just wrote that down. Okay. So I'll make it easy and Motion. And one second. Thanks. Is that

okay? All I need to make

very soon.

The yes. Thank you.

So all in favor of Jason Weems as chair and chair for the arts commission, say aye.

Aye.

All opposed.

Motion carries seven zero. Congratulations. Thank y'all.

Yes. Thank you. Thank you.

Hope that works. Alright.

Next item is going to work the same way, but there's gonna be a a whole bunch of names on here. So nominate item six, nominate and consider approval of three arts commission members to serve on the following committees. Three commissioners for the mural arts committee, three commissioners for the community engagement committee, and one commissioner for the downtown banner committee.

So does this roll over sorry. No. Does the number six, does it always is it like a year term on okay.

Yeah. We as long

as the year.

So if you don't like it, you can always

So I was just curious because I was like, if it the whole term, that's cool too. I was just curious if it's like sec okay.

And if if I think you can also say, hey. I don't have time to do this. We need to maybe we could do another vote and then put somebody in it. Okay. So so

I'm down for, like, whatever. I was just curious if it was, like, it's from sorry.

No. It's cool. So

the way I think we can do this is just kind of, like, cash out consensus for three Mural Arts, three community engagement, one downtown. I mean, it doesn't have to be, like, I don't wanna you know, it's like, you know, raise your hand if you wanna be on Mural Arts. And then also, real quick, I'll just explain three to me. So Mural Arts, we covered in during training here. But if you've got any more detailed questions before you, you know, consider one, we can

be on once a month.

Right. Yes. Meet once a

usually on online.

Yep. Yep.

Is it, like, beginning of the month or whenever time allows?

It is we have it on at 05:30 on, I believe, the second.

Okay. Cool.

Third Tuesday

Alright. Cool.

Of the month.

And So

if you do the ENC, you can kinda set it into your schedule and everything. You might get an email, hey. We can't do this month. Mhmm. But, generally, they try to do this.

Mhmm. So there's that one. Community engagement, that one meets just when when they need this. Basically, three arts commissioners getting together offline and bringing either reports to the arts commission meeting or they had some pretty interesting programming lately. I'll toss over to Jason.

Yeah. Yeah. I I've been on the arts commission that the the outreach commission, and I I love it. We've just been trying to get it going. There have been a little bit of there have been a little time where there wasn't a lot of mixers or things like that. So we've had a couple since I've been on the thing, but we are you know, Rick is on with me. We had lost one of the commissioners, so we need to do this to get it going again. But we've got two really great mixers under our belt. I think we have some great ideas for things to come. We can set a regular meeting date, but we're also able to be flexible.

It it's the mural commission has members from other parts of the city involved. So that's why it has to be more of a regulated schedule. Thank you. This one doesn't work, but it's just us from the commission. So since it's the journal, it could be a little more

Lightbox. Oh,

and I'm sorry. I neglected to mention the mural arts committee. We currently have no arts commissioners on it. They all roll on.

All of them.

Yep. Community engagement committee, currently, it's Jason and Rick. Yeah. We lost one of those. Then downtown banners, I'll talk about that in a sec

after you No. Go ahead.

Okay. The downtown banners committee, Charlotte could tell you more about it.

Don't only meet staff needed. Only need need and then last year, we did not meet because we didn't have any new new banners. So it's an as needed program. The banners are provided and funded by the downtown program. So they this coming year, we will or they want to create a new art banner, retire Renee Betis' banners. Those are the official banners we had. Retire those. So then the committee meets to select the artist and then select the art.

Can we get an explanation on, like, what that actually means, like, the banner and what is up now currently?

That sounds great. So the banners are 60 or so banners that are located in the downtown area around the square, LBJ, Centimeters Allen, part of Opera Reno part of Opera Reno Hutchison, and Hopkins Street.

Oh, they're

stretched on those

I'm sorry?

They're stretched on those lampposts.

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I That As soon as you said the square. Yeah.

Four not even four feet. But they're on they're it's a pedestrian banner, so they're on pedestrian poles. So it's not the long six feet ones that we used to have before Mhmm. Or five feet ones. They're much smaller. And so we have some currently that have Texas State on those, and those are the ones that are currently hanging. We currently have those with football season, and then we switch to something in the spring. But because we don't have new banners to place, we've kept those. And then we also have we have different art banners. We have three different collections, and then we have a a winter holiday banner.

And that was just something Charlie created. That was the second banner. Actually, that was our first banner we created. We're holiday banners that were downtown, but we get our light bulbs. So that's what that is then. So I was just thinking for us.

No. No. It's all good. And this would be you it's all the banners are provided. We are just responsible with finding the artist to create or design the banners?

The the committee will decide what direction you wanna take. Do we wanna call for artists? Do we want to select an artist? It doesn't have to go through an RFP process and or a call for artist process. And then the committee will have conversation of the direction, so that's all up to the committee. And it is staff and arts commission and mainly staff, like communications department has to be included because it represents the city.

Yep.

It is on as needed basis. So this we'll need them this year, and I don't think we'll need them even for another two years.

We can serve a multiple committee.

You know? And briefly, we so the trace, like, the difference, like, what are these what what the what's the what is the the task force?

Yeah.

We yeah. We've got the formal heart centered task force,

Researching?

I'm sorry. I didn't

understand what the community engagement committee does.

We are literally are trying to engage the community.

Okay. So it's like

Mixers, all sorts of stuff. I mean, dream it. We could possibly do it. But but, yeah, we, as our commission, would like to have an outward facing component as opposed to just, you know, paperwork component. And this is an opportunity for us to really truly mix with the community. And even here in a minute, we're gonna hear two different sort of things that are involved in peripheral aspects of them.

Like mixers or something like that.

What for sure mixers. Yeah. The numbers and stuff that's even beyond that next. Yeah.

A couple of because of the the mixture where we gather artists together just to mingle. Thank you. We we have, as arts commission, just done, like, field trips where we will go visit a a local artist and mingle with them. So we go to them Maybe studio. A studio to

see what they really

like, early, the same glass.

Even I think we even considered when we would relocate these meetings another venue. We would go to those places that have that they have been funded by us so that our meetings are being held in their spaces so it can become more visible. So those are examples

of you. No.

That that was awesome.

Good. Yeah. I'll I'll channel Charlotte because she used to actually be on arts commission, and I think this is modeled off of how that arts commission would do stuff. I mean, they Was it

early for the moment it is. So we wanted to get it moving. The quickest way to get it moving was to do things that were successful in the past. And then once we have that going, then we can bring the new future. Right? And yeah. But we had to get the new model. We had to move the momentum. I've been watching a lot of West Wing party.

That's okay.

We can talk and

talk later.

Just to segue on then, I I would like to continue volunteer myself to continue on the engagement, meeting engagements, and we'll start with that.

Why don't we do the yeah. For anyone who would should we start with community? Does it matter

to the thing? I mean, we're talking about community. So, yeah, let's just Okay.

So if you are anyone, if you are interested in being in the community engagement, raise your hand. I would like to so we have several people. So

I'll back I'll back down if someone else wants to yeah.

I know. You're both good.

I think it sounds like that's really important right now. So I would move the motion to have the two people who are already on it stay on

it Yeah.

And to probably get Sarah and Torres. She just wants to experience.

I second that then. That's a good that's a good point.

Yeah. I mean, think

it is wise at this moment, but I do think I love the attitude of one jump in, and I think the mural commission's a great way to do that. So if we if we said the three of us, Sarah, me, and Rick on that We still need three people for community engagement. Would the four of y'all have an interest anyone not have an interest in the mural?

Is there any concern with having all three people in the mural? Could it be new to the arts commission or not really?

Well, I don't know if it's not just us.

Yeah. Oh, that's trivia.

It's cool.

Because it's a part of a larger established with members of the staff of the city. I think

that's banner guy.

So maybe ask I mean yeah.

So we need Yeah. Listen.

Yeah. I'm gonna be on mural arts.

So if we do ask them that we have the three of y'all, we still need one person to do this banner thing. Does that

call it? Yeah. Yeah.

Like, so three of us were like, it's one, two, and three. Yeah.

We got

a t.

So do we need to do an actual vote thing?

Well, let me get the slate written down. Sure. So downtown, we've got Haslen. Okay. Community engagement, Rick, Jason, and Sarah. Is that correct? And then who from Mural Arts? I think so.

Alright. Alright. Before we do that, because there was so much interest and engagement, I also like bringing in new people both to train them as we cycle off, but also just the momentum, the excitement for it. Could we have four in the engagement committee? Or are

we allowed to do it?

I mean, I like the idea of,

like, if we could be trained.

You cannot because that is the

Oh, interesting. You will forum,

and you

have to post.

So that's why we have three or less

Okay.

MIDI because of the whole forum items.

And You

have You are

That was why we were the only three that could go to the Got It. Conference Center one day to meet.

I don't the task

force. Well, that's what I was saying. Because I'm on the task force, I don't mind dialing off of engagement just if someone else wants to.

So how many people would need to be

on a task force?

Right now, it's just Sarah. Okay.

Doesn't really as long as it's that important. Leave it at a

third. Right? Rebecca, Tracy Yeah.

I mean we could I

mean task force, is there a number of

people Three.

Has to

be placed. But right now,

it's currently just up to me.

But, like, so say, like, their three are committed to the community engagement, could one of us or the rest of us still help with ideas, like, off ideas, and then we just do the quorum

Only only if they you speak to them one on one Yeah.

That's what I'm saying.

Never have a whole conversation or a text group or anything All things. Emails No. For So

we could set a discussion here and have that conversation on the record in front of the room.

Saying that they're walking for them. It's like a big issue.

So so if y'all want so there is here's the other option. If y'all want to have four or more, the meetings have to be set at a designated time all the time, and we have to post those. So if you do want to do that, there is that option, but we would have to know two weeks in advance when the meeting is. It's preferred to keep it on the same the same time, the same day of the week or day of the month to then host it for consistency, and that can be done.

Well, you know, and just outside of the meeting, like, if there just needs to be some level of support or whatever from one other person, I just wanna be involved somehow, like, even if it is just showing up like I did that one.

Well, into this, I mean, like, especially for our our our for our mixers or whatever. That is the moment that these rules are suspended because it's publicly announced Mhmm. That the mission will be together in a public event, and that it's a you're welcome to come. So we're not gonna be having a secret meeting. We're doing it in at a at a patio somewhere. You're welcome to be there, have that moment with us. So for a mixer, even if you aren't on

Well, we posted, but there's a mixer.

Yeah. That's my point. Is that Yeah. Yeah.

So following the rules.

For those, yes, there is room for an art commissioner to come and be helpful, extremely involved. Big giant glowing yes to that. Absolutely.

So it sounds like as you listed with them, it's probably around two.

Yeah. Does sound

is everybody okay with that? We don't wanna just ram it in No.

I I'm I'm down. I like the setup.

Yeah. Totally have that. I I so just so I understand, it's one additional evening a month for the Mural Arts Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Yep.

Uh-huh. You'll have a heads up of if it's gonna happen or not. You'll have a calendar by sentence if there'll be, like, an email change. And for

that one, we we send out agendas and stuff because we'll usually have, like, at the very least reports and then also, like, stuff that's come up, you know, at the staff level. So, hey. We've got this thing cooking. What do

y'all think? There's a pipeline of of of things that are gonna be.

This looks great. So

Alright. I'll let me read back one more time, and then we'll get see if it sounds good. We'll be looking for a motion in a second for this slate. Yeah. So mural arts, I've got

Kate, Arthur, Sheridan. Community engagement, Rick, Jason, Sarah, and downtown banner, Azel. Is that them? Okay. Does anybody want to make such a motion?

Sure. I'll that we have Sharon Schafer, Arthur Simone, and Catherine Cargill Kate Cargill as our Mural Arts Commission Committee, that we have Rick Garcia, Jason Weems, and Sarah Bloomfield as our as our community engagement committee, and that we have Aslan Hoffler Hollier as our downtown banner committee member. I second. Second? All in favor, say aye. Aye. Aye. Anybody opposed?

Alright.

I said it.

Mhmm. Good. Motion carries seven zero. Alright.

That's amazing, y'all. That's for city commissions, this is real stuff getting done.

Mhmm.

Thanks for jumping in first thing. Because I know I was asked questions my first day.

What? What's going on? Who's on first?

Do it. Do it.

Alright. Next up, we've got two action items. Item seven, discuss and consider approval for a dance engagement activity project for the Hays Caldwell Center using general funding. And

oh So hold on. So as far as I'm giving you some history for the new ones. So this year, there weren't as many grants that we requested general funds. So we had $17,000 available. And so we, as a commission or you as a commission, decided to create or come up with ideas how to spend that money. That this is

One user knows the situation.

Yes.

Yes. General fund does not carry open. We have to spend that money within the fiscal year, which is in September 30. Okay.

Right now, Sarah is going to mention an idea that she's brought to us before, and now it's kinda developed. And then after she's done that, I have also a separate a complimentary idea that there's even I think we brought it to both, but we just wanted to present the ideas to y'all. And are we just discussing or are we voting today?

Discuss discussion and voting. So I'm Uh-huh. Wording these agenda items that we can do. Stole that from the parks and

rec. So

Sarah will be discussing the dance engagement active project for Ace Kallo Wolven Center using the subpage.

So one thing that we've discussed is potentially basically offering the the Hays Hall of the Women's Center the opportunity to utilize a dance professional for movement practice to help

do do you have the information for her? Is it

Well, I need to I need to get more information from them about facility stuff and coordinating that. But, ultimately, I really would like, I think the budget that we would really need is probably about a thousand to be able to do that and offer, like, a program. And that would potentially include if the the center decides that their folks are excited to to use them.

So what

we're thinking about doing is or what we've discussed previously is that we should do a pilot program initially and then get feedback on that to see if they wanna do it again for future instances. What I'm thinking is kind of just, like, the first one, one month, and then maybe two more this time around. And if they really enjoyed it, liked it, we consider it for situations like this. More about either

this this one here. Yeah.

And so one of the things that I don't know how much you guys know about dance and movement therapy, but it can be very, very, very center in their body, start feeling their emotions. I have few contacts in Austin that have that run a advanced movement therapy program through Boston Community College, and they have a couple of folks to recommend in San Marcos. So or

people that are one of those

travel here. So they would be I I

Yeah. And I've got somebody for me, by the way, that is already doing things like online.

Really? Yeah.

We'll do dance process of therapeutic nature. Okay.

Alright.

Is this strictly the a dance process for a selected client? Is there a performance component to this?

No.

No. And that's the beauty of this money. We don't have to do anything. Right. This is required.

So Is

is there a way that we could work something in so that it is more public and the community is aware that this is happening for future funding?

Not at this center.

No. That's not

the phase.

So this is

Yeah. This is not to be performative

I see.

But to provide. And I know that it would be to be able to shop from the report.

Just in documenting the number of clients that we are serving.

And Yeah. Not do it that way.

You would need to kinda think about how we're gonna do that for sure. But, yeah, this is one of those that's a little bit more sensitive. So One.

Number one, I love that it stands because we're so overwhelmed with the visual art. So thank goodness we're bringing in some movement ideas. I love that new sort of tonant to what the good discussions that we've had here. Right? So I just wanna get a better picture visualizing what you're proposing.

And the cost is amazing what we can get from small amounts.

They seem small to me. For insurance?

Yeah. I got some I I spoke with my contacts, and they gave me a number that was significant. So I'm kind of overshooting so we have you know?

I mean, is it viable to, you know, just increase the amount just in case, you know, and then not use the full thing? Is that a possibility?

Money by certain times, and you couldn't have it be where, like, they pick up a new check every week, but there's potential, and you could speak to this better than us, Rebecca, that maybe we make a contract with somebody for x amount for the year, and we pay the method before that. So also paid as long as the check is written before the due date, then the contract is made that holds to it.

No. That it all has it all has to be this has to be done by in September.

Or by that date.

Did you

also get mono amigo also had some, like, a dance for community members that were in the immigrant community, and it was like a yeah. Mono Amigo, which also services the San Marcos area, they just recently had had a Facebook event and everything, and they had it was, yeah, it was a dance. And maybe it's something we could consider if they wanna have another one. We could support them as well with their next one. I'm just saying if we're if we're needing to.

That's it.

It was it wasn't as much of, like, a therapeutic dance, but they have, like, I think, kratchy band, and it was kind of set up like a prom special thing. And it was just to kind it was called the the yeah.

Well, we are cultural culture

and arts, we are reminded.

You know? So

because it would fall.

Has to be used within city limits, and Yes. Does mean it has to service city residents? Correct. Okay.

And everything done by September 30 of this year?

Fiscal year. Because it's like, I work for ACC in the mental health department, so we have to use the budgets by certain times where we don't get that funding every year. It's weird.

Even Southside Community Center, I feel like they're in conference here.

How it

goes to the I mean, I don't wanna, like, put too much on our plate

stuff to

plan, but I just like this theme of, like, Which is a Dance. Yeah.

It's why I feel like just get your body moving because you need that, like, juice moving instead of a

Going back to Sarah, since you were leading this Mhmm. And the the board had the commission had voted to support this. So it's now what you do with it to move forward. So then you'll have something next meeting if more okay.

Yeah. Next meeting, we should be able to, like, finalize amounts and, you know, bit more details about, like, where this would be happening. Right?

So should the should should we move to postpone this the the action items next month so that we've Yes.

Got okay. At least for this one, we'll see that. Okay. Yep.

So Alright. My question is, so what is the volume