City Council - Regular Meeting

Father God, we come before you to give you all glory and honor and thank you for allowing us to be here also for all the people that showed up at the meeting. Father God, we ask you to give us strength, Father God, give us wisdom in our decisions we make today, Father God. We ask protection over our police officers, our firefighters, and our ambulance service, Father God, for our military, Father God, for our leaders of our nation, our state, and our city, Father God. Give me all the glory to that, Father God. In your name we pray. Amen. Also, prayer for Councilor Corn for a speedy recovery. In your name we pray. Amen.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. Okay. So are we are going to be the active?

Okay. Okay.

Okay, so we'll have approval of the, I want approval of the agenda.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I move that we approve the agenda for the July 9, 2026 representative council meeting.

Second. Okay, we have a motion to agenda. Is there any further discussion? Okay. Seeing none, it's the clerk to call the roll.

Councilor Halvorson, will you be the second?

No.

Christine, that word.

I will say Councilor Arnold is second. Yes. Councilor Heldenbrand?

Aye.

Councilor Arnold? Yes. Councilor Orovesa?

Yes.

Councilor Moore? Yes. Councilor Johnson?

Yes.

Councilor Halvorson? Yes. Councilor Gass?

Yes.

Councilor Marrubo?

Yes. vote of nine affirming does negative get adopted okay now we have to approve of the uh consent agenda i think mr mayor i'm going to approve the consent agenda for july 9 2026 for our city council meeting second okay we have a motion and second is there any discussion IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY, STANDING OUT AT THE CALL ROLL.

COUNCILOR HELDENGREN?

AYE.

COUNCILOR ARNOLD? AYE, YES. COUNCILOR OTTAWESA?

YES.

COUNCILOR MOORE? YES. COUNCILOR JOHNSON?

YES.

COUNCILOR HALVERSON? YES. COUNCILOR GAS?

YES.

COUNCILOR MUDDLEHOOT?

YES.

BY VOTE OF 8, INFIRMING NUMBER NEGATIVE, THE ITEMS HAVE BEEN uh approval of the consent agenda had been approved okay and three through eleven 12. okay recognizing key contributors to the july fourth celebration council lady albertson yeah thank you mayor um

And I'm going to take a few minutes, because we had such a great celebration through July 4th, as well as the first six months of this year, just great events celebrating the 253rd birthday of the United States. So we've got a slideshow with a few slides that show you what we've been doing. These are some of the events we've attended and had help with the volunteers. And this whole thing only happened because of volunteers and sponsors, which have donated money.

Can you go to the next slide?

One of the big projects we've been doing in the new flag places for the holidays. So we did Memorial Bay, the cemetery, and as well as Pioneer Plaza. The scouts were a huge help. We've been putting a lot of flags at the visitor center. And in case you haven't seen them, we just filled the entire Pioneer Plaza area with flags. One of the other projects we just started doing, Carolyn Madison came up with this idea. So if you see a worn flag flying in your neighborhood or in business, there's a form you can fill out on the city's website. And the American Legion will go out and replace that flag. So we're buying the flags for that. So that's one of the great projects. I don't know how many of you have seen the mural at the Visitor Center. That was a community mural. So we have about 200 tiles. We have about 170 painters. So kids, adults, elderly, everyone just came out and painted tiles. And then, thanks to Home Depot, they built the frame for us. They gave us all the materials. TJ, Amanda, Sarah, we worked really hard to put the whole thing together. We were able to get it up on July 1. It was time for the festival people to see it. So if you haven't been to the Visitor Center and seen the mural, I highly recommend you do, because it's a really neat project that involves the entire community. Next one. There's a picture of the finished mural. Yeah, it looks really good. It was a neat project. So I was just happy to do that for them for this life. Thank you, Home Eco, so much for all your help and everything you've done on that. The fire maker project, that's been another community project. Poor Nancy Fleming, that's her picture I have of her. Are you here, Nancy?

Yes, and I'm wearing the same game shirt.

I really like that shirt. So I called her, and she was like, I'm so busy. But then she heard about the project. Same with the mural. She was a great help with the mural. um so she just loved it because she's so artistic she was the perfect one to come to mind to help with that and i do have the winners i'm going to name them off real quick because we did pick the winners today the judges um agnes bonner won first place and lily myhoff and jane jolly won second place sarah macarthur valley west won third place paulie paula martin she went fourth and she tied with demi salgado and eric rodriguez for fourth And then we have three ties for fifth, Monica Salgado, Kaylee Hembree, and Isema Pallentos, and Rosalie Janis. So they're up and down Main Street, but we also, people can still paint their hydrants in their neighborhood. They get ahold of Nancy at the Miniature Museum and Cures Collection. There's four you can fill out on the city's website. Just let us know where you want the... dehydrate and she will go wash it get it primed and allison's home supply they've donated all the paints so it's this is another great community project that's going to continue on through the rest of the year the ufo festival we have representatives here from main street bronco and tj and the city they did a wonderful job if you didn't go out you missed a wonderful festival it was a really good event there were so many people we're guessing 10 to 12 000 people attended It's hard to say, you know, because we haven't got the accounts here. The visitor center is still working on their accounts, right? Yeah. So place your eye on place that out of market visitors at 31 Husky.

Okay, so there you go. Okay, next one.

And then, you know, the big, big party we had, the Great American Block Party. It was such a wonderful event. There were so many families out there. We counted about 3,000 people. I'll go into the details that everyone who donated for that, like that flag they have here, I have here. So the parachutes flew in with the flag, and then the people that were at the event, they were all able to sign it for, and we'll try to get it framed and put up in City Hall. I'm always trying to space for it. And you keep asking me for pictures.

Okay, is that all?

Okay, so I'm going to go into speech and recognize the people. And I had to write a speech because there's so many people to thank. And TJ, if you come up with shelving, So when I call your name, if you guys come up and gather around here, we've got some goodies for you. And then maybe we can get a group picture at the end. So before I begin, I want to say that these thank yous are in no particular order. Every person, business, organization, and volunteer who has helped from Brussels to Tokyo, the UFO Festival, the Great American Block Party has been equally important. It truly takes a community to make something like this happen. I know I'll probably miss someone, but please, know how grateful we are for each and every one of you. So TJ Conyers, Sarah Mark, and Amanda Dickerson. I'd like to start by recognizing three incredible women from the city of Roswell. TJ Conyers have worked tirelessly helping organize so many of our events this year, especially the Great American Block Party and the UFO Festival. She also coordinated and designed the incredible drone show that so many people enjoyed on Thursday night. Sarah Mark created the Roswell 250 logo, that has become the face of our celebration and has volunteered at event after event, even spending hours in the heat helping with the block party setup and the party itself. Amanda Dickerson has helped plan and organize countless Rolls of 250 activities, the Eiffel Festival, and projects at the Visitor Center. Together, these three ladies were instrumental in completing and installing our beautiful American Eagle community mural. So let's give them a hand. Bobby Arnett has been an incredible asset to Roswell 250. He worked hard to find J&M displays to produce our fireworks show. And I think we can all agree if you saw it, it was one of the finest fireworks display Roswell has ever seen. He also served on our committee, donates his time, and even provided a tent for our Roswell 250 celebrations. Thank you, Bobby, for everything you do. Pam Boyd and Sybil Rotman. Coming up on my go to ladies, they have spent countless hours planning, organizing, sitting in the hot spot and making sure every detail came together. They simply don't know the word no. And every time I asked for help, they're there. I truly could not do this without them. Nancy Flemming. So Nancy worked with Allison's Home Supply to give us the paints for the fire hydrants. When I needed someone with artistic talent and experience organizing community art projects, Nancy Fleming was the very first person who came to mind. Nancy immediately stepped up to help She has coordinated our patriotic fire hydrant program, organized artists, developed designs, and even washes and primes the hydrants herself. Allison's Home Supply generously donated all of the paint for the project, and Nancy played a huge role in organizing the hundreds of community painted tiles that became our American Eagle mural. Thank you for sharing your talents with Roswell. Home Depot. A huge thank you to the team at Home Depot, especially Josh Ponyers, Matthew Maloney, Billy Duran, Ron True, John Seehey, Matthew Estrada, Valerie Christman, Nick Ruiz, and Betty Duran. Home Depot has volunteered at many of our events, hosted our Father's Day craft activity, donated supplies, and built and installed a frame that now proudly displays our American Eagle mural. Their partnership has been incredible. Rudy Chavez in the City Parks Department. So Rudy Chavez in the City Parks Department, Stephen Waters, Victor Ruiz, John Collins, Levi Youngblood, Walter Gensler, Nathan Morgan, Steve Dickerson, Gilbert Benitez, Jacob Garcia, Jesus Perales, Robert Castillo, and Monica Ruiz. They've worked behind the scenes on project after project, whether it's placing and removing flags, decorating the downtown planters, setting up or cleaning up, or helping wherever needed during the UFO Festival, they are always there. Much of their work goes unnoticed, but our events simply wouldn't happen without them. Main Street, Roswell, and Peggy Teske. The reviews we've heard about this year's UFO Festival have been overwhelmingly positive, and that doesn't happen by accident. Peggy Teske has dedicated years to organizing this festival, and her experience and leadership have made it one of Roswell's signature events. As she transitions her focus to the farmer's market, we want to sincerely thank her for everything she has done. Thank you also to Main Street, Roswell, Bell Journey, Debbie Lee, and Ellen Shanley. for serving as a fiduciary for Roswell 250 and for helping make these celebrations possible. You guys want to come up here, everyone?

The new executive director for my last announcement. I'm ready to serve you. Enrique Moreno and the Roswell Community Disaster Relief. Enrique Moreno,

deserves tremendous recognition for organizing the free food at the Great American Block Party. Working with Just Like Nana's Home Cooking Food Trailer and volunteers from Roswell Community Disaster Relief, they served nearly 2,900 free hot dogs, chips, and water for families attending the celebration. This is an incredible accomplishment and a wonderful example of neighbors serving neighbors.

I always count on, not just for this, but pretty much all my events.

Every successful event has these special people who quietly show up every single time without asking for recognition. I want to thank Malia Juarez and Landon Swans for always being willing to help wherever they're needed, whether it's setting up, tearing down, greeting guests, or pitching in behind the scenes, they never hesitate to lend a hand. I also want to recognize the scouts and leaders of the Peace Door Council. Time and time again, they answer the call to serve. They embody the Scout Oath and Scout Law through their willingness to volunteer, work hard, and give back to our community. Their service has made a tremendous difference to our roles and activities. The Pioneer Bank team. I also want to recognize my Pioneer Bank family. They are all wonderful, but these ladies and their families were there for me this weekend. Pam Roy, her daughter Sybil Rotman, and her grandsons. Pam, what are your grandsons' names again? Logan and Easton. Logan and Easton. Logan and Easton. I'm going to grab my other speech, sorry. Alexandra Bennett, Vanessa Bejarano, her kids and niece, Joe Ryan Ochoa, Aliana Ochoa, Ellie Bell, Sheila Serna, Marsha Daimler, and Susana Lujan, Tiara Aranda, Sandra Dutchover, and Terry Ramirez. They never let me down, no matter how early we start, how late we end, how hot it is outside, or how much work there is to do. They're always there to help with smiles on their faces. They volunteer, set up, tear down, hand out food, help with activities, greet visitors, and do whatever needs to be done without asking for recognition. I'm incredibly blessed to work alongside people who care so deeply about this community. Thank you for always answering the call and making Roswell a better place. Finally, and perhaps most importantly, I want to thank each and every one of our sponsors. Throughout the year, businesses, organizations, and individuals have stepped up to financially support Roswell 250 and make these events possible. There's a sponsor board, there's two of them in the foyer, recognizing their generosity. I encourage everyone to take a moment to thank them. They are listed on the board, so take a look and see who they are. Their investment in our community has allowed us to celebrate America's 250th birthday in a way that brings people together and creates memories from generations to come. And Roswell 250 is far from over. We have many more events planned throughout the year, and if you or your organization would like to partner with us to host an event, we would love to have you join us. I do want to add one more thing. We did come out with our publication, and if you haven't picked them up, they're at the entryway there. It's a never-did publication, so I encourage everyone to pick one up. And I just want to thank you for all our volunteers for making all our events possible.

You know, I gotta say one thing about this church. You know, Juliana, you did a fantastic job. I think we all need to thank Juliana for her imagination.

I would also like to thank the city employees. If you look, each department came along and everybody worked together, even, you know,

Mr. Burris was at some issues and he couldn't be here, but Rudy stepped up and all his team, everybody worked together, whether you were streets, putting in barricades, or whatever. Everybody in our city team worked together. And it was a pleasure to go out there and see all the people at every function that we had. It was really... Phenomenal, and it was really proud of how much, how all our people work together. It was not very well. Juliana, thank you again. Okay. One thing I also overlooked. Tonight, we have our attorneys are at continuing legal uh education courses in uh Albuquerque but we're represented by our new deputy city attorney Ted Garcia Ted welcome to Roswell we're glad you're here and he comes here from Abilene I mean Amarillo Abilene Abilene okay thank you sir okay next uh Moving right along here, we have our flood recovery task force. Mr. Chris Cortez used to be a councilman, then he took up the job. But we're glad to have you here. For people who don't know, Councilman Cortez was extremely helpful in solving a number of the water issues we have around fire plugs and issues. He worked with the staff. He's been working an awful lot on meters and other things too. And he spent an awful lot of time and he had to return back to his local work. So, but Chris, your turn. Help us on the flood.

Mr. Mayor counselors, my name is Chris. I am a 58 Riverside drive in Roswell, New Mexico, which is a very auspicious location given what we're about to talk about. I'm assisted here by Matt Rogers Rogers. I'm a flood recovery chair task force chair and what we want to start with here. We really just want to show you some mapping. We've been working on. The flood recovery task force meets every Wednesday at city hall following city council so we'll be there next Wednesday. At 10 o'clock in the morning it's getting a little exciting in there, so we want to start and just show you guys some stuff we've been working on, and I think this is a really. Good place to start, so we got MAC here we're going to zoom out a little bit. This is a GIS maps geographic information systems map it's probably going to be a little hard for you guys to see you have to zoom in a little bit back. And what we're going to show you is a series of layers that are here located and hopefully we will have a lot of technical issues which will make it go very excitingly. resume out a little bit so those white lines which are a little hard to see, can we get the color lines, maybe you could go north a little bit back. And we should, we're trying to show you to start, this is the floodplain. Gonna have to zoom in, it's really finicky on the distance it shows. This is the FEMA floodplain. So this is the special flood hazard as currently mapped by FEMA. These maps are circa 2008. If your house is in these blue areas and you went to get a mortgage or insurance, you probably have to get floodplain insurance. This floodplain, that one on the north there, that's the Spring River corridor. You can see downtown Roswell. That's a special flood hazard area. And what that means is if we have a 100-year flood event, you are likely to be flooded at that location. I want to stop for a second because this is a misnomer. 100-year flood event does not mean once every 100 years. It means that there is a 1% chance every year it'll happen. A 500-year flood event is 0.02% chance every year. They are, if you remember your probability, they are independent events. So just because it flooded two years ago doesn't mean it's not going to flood next year or this year, though we hope that it won't. So that's the floodplain. You can zoom out, go maybe a little bit to the west. Roswell is known for, Roswell's actually built in a big drainage channel the Pecos River Valley, all that exists. If you go a little west, you'll start to see the Spring River Corridors to our north, and these things starting to color in right here, that's the Hondo Corridor. So that's the Hondo, the Rio Hondo. And 75 years ago, there was significant enough flooding in the Rio Hondo that the City of Roswell passed an ordinance to build the Tren River Dams, which is the rest of Roswell. So these are your floodplains and apologies, it does depend on what zoom level you're in to get that dialed in. So that's kind of where we are. So we'll zoom in a little bit and they should pop back up. Those are your floodplains. Now notice the colors end right there. That's the Jennings Farm there south of McGaffey, east of the relief route in orange. And you'll notice these white lines continue on and they're not colored though. So what that was or what that is, That was the original 2008 floodplain. However, there was a letter of map revision done, a LOMAR, as they call it in the parlance, and that area was removed from the official floodplain in 2008, 2009, around then. So that is old floodway, or old floodplain, but was not in the final mapping, or it was revised out of the final mapping. So that's what you're seeing right there. Now we're gonna show you, now we- No, that's the white lines. Between those white lines where you don't see any color, that was actually floodplain, but was removed from the floodplain map. See how it kind of just randomly ends right there on that Jennings pivot right there? It actually would have continued through, but it was revised, okay? And we'll bring that up a little bit later. The next thing we want to show you was we took all the city of Roswell damage inventory that was provided to FEMA and we mapped it and that's these dots. So when you see these dots and they're color coded right now based off of different FEMA categories, but all these dots on the map and what we might want to do is turn off the labeling there. but on the roads, but we'll worry about that later. All those dots are where the city recorded flood damage. And zoom in a little bit and you'll see. You see those dots? They're probably hard to see, a little bit faint. But all those dots are areas that the city of Roswell reported damage on the flood of October 19 through October 20, 2024. And if you notice, they're pretty tightly correlated to the floodplain, the FEMA floodplain. which is there. But notice they're outside of the floodplain. And that's because this is a hundred year flood event. And generally what we experienced October 19th and 20th, 2024 was considered a 500 year flood event. So you would expect it to be of greater magnitude and width. So here's your damage. So that's those dots right there. Now, For everyone that's wondering about the flood recovery task force, we're primarily, as a city task force, we're primarily focusing right now on damage to city properties and utilities, not to private property utilities. Though we obviously are concerned about that. I myself was personally damaged by the flood, so I know a little bit about it. We have started, we have an inventory of damaged private properties, residences, and Mac and I are working to plot those accurately on this map so we can show you where those properties sustain damage. And we hope to have that for you next time we meet, or if you do, any of you want to show up to our Wednesday morning meeting on the, you know, at 10 o'clock. What we've noticed so far, just preliminarily, and when we say the word preliminary, we're still working on it, a lot of the damage in the private properties occurred in the area where Mac has his cursor right there, which is not in the floodplain proper, but in the old floodplain. And so that's an interesting thing we're starting to see. And as we plot those things out for you, we hope to show you more of what we observed and what's happened. Okay. So this is the floodplain. This is the damages. We're gonna show you another thing. This is the LIDAR study. LIDAR is a type of satellite imagery using data clouds and points. And this study right here was done by the state. This study is a very pretty collage of colors, which unfortunately reflects depths of water for a hundred year flood event. not a 500 year flood event and not the flood event that we happened on the 19th. Though obviously this is a representation of a modeled estimate of if we have a 100 year flood event, this is what the LIDAR data says, and this is preliminary as well, because there you have to come in and work some more localized details out, but this is what the LIDAR data shows. So this map shows, where if we have a 100-year flood event, this is where you would have 100-year flood damage. And the color code is depths, anticipated depths of water at that location. And obviously, blue is better than green, and red is obviously the deeper of the channels. And you can see it's pretty diffuse. Come out a little bit, Matt, just so we can give a big picture view. And what you see See that channel going along the north above Roswell, that's actually the Blackwater Draw and the Barendo. That's the Barendo where it goes, you guys go over this bridge all the time when you go to Walmart. And if you're older, you say we went to the mall. And that's the Barendo, that's the south Barendo. And if it rains out there, that thing will go run. And you'll notice sometimes in July of last year, June, July of last year, the Barendo ran And the spring river ran a little bit, but the hondo didn't run. So a lot of it depends on where the rainfall falls west of us in what quantities and for what duration as to where the water's going to go.

Okay.

But one thing we do notice is that when the hondo runs, it goes right through our friends at Brown brother ranches, right across where Bobby Thompson's hanging out and it hits the relief route and it goes north. across that Jennings Farm, across McGaffey, it connects back west of my office on West 2nd and the main trailer sails, and it ties, go up into your west, north and west, and it ties into the Spring River Corridor. So when the Hondo floods or when those drainage floods, you get water into the Spring River Corridor, but you also get water from the Hondo channel, which goes over land and ties into the Spring River Corridor and adds water into that corridor. And you can see that very clearly. Another thing we have, and we'll have to talk to our colleagues at the DOT, sorry, Councilor Johnson, is the relief route itself is a manmade improvement that has changed the flood dynamics. And if we go over to Dexter and parts of Roswell, we'll see where the railroad, our colleagues at the railroad have created what we would call a bit of a dam, and that also causes areas of inundation. Right now, you can see north of right there with the red, they're saying a lot of water, depth of water will accumulate right there on the west side of the relief route, a man-made dam. Everyone really excited at this point?

Chris, do you have the same problem with the railroad tracks there by Dexter?

Yeah, the railroad tracks at Dexter. What's interesting about Dexter, and I know we're city of Roswell, so what's interesting about Dexter during the flood event of 2024 is it only rained like 0.2 inches in Dexter. But all these big drainage features came across and the west side of Dexter flooded. and the east side of Dexter did it. And the major reason for that, which is pretty apparent, is this big dam, which is the railroad. And we can't say fully what happened there, but the west side of Dexter took three to four feet, the east side of Dexter took a couple inches. And it didn't even really rain in Dexter. The water came in Dexter, if you go west of Dexter, it came down these big draws, 13-mile draws, and the Zooper drawl, and it came across there, because it was raining way up there, all accumulating and all moving across the land, and then there we were. So.

But you know, you have the railroad that causes Fist Street to flood as well, and it floods into the courthouse every time you have a halfway rain, because they have four, four-inch or five-inch culverts that go under the railroad tracks on Fist Street, and everything else is a dam. So there's a lot of problems with that. And the railroad is extremely slow about fixing anything on the railroad. The county's already had all the money to fix Cottonwood Lane, and the railroad doesn't respond. And the money's there, it's all budgeted, but they won't respond, and they have to tell you that they can fix something on the railroad.

Historically, railroads have been very powerful going back to the 1800s, and they have a lot of autonomy over their property, and they exercise it. It's very difficult to do project work on BNSF railroads. It's very challenging to do the work. Okay, so now you're starting to see this picture come together. You're seeing where the damage is. It's that the city occurred, and we'll try to get the private property damage put up on this map to add to that. And there's just a couple things I think at this point we want to talk about and get out of your guys' hair. You guys have an item tonight on your agenda 19 that is a bond agenda. That's based off our NMGRT that we passed. One of the great things about my experience as city councilor was getting to raise taxes. It was very popular. And I was very happy to go out in public afterwards. But we did raise that for a reason. And here's the reason why. So everyone in public hears us. When we get money from FEMA, we have to actually do the project. We actually have to have the money. They don't give us the money first. We have to have the money, do the project, and then they reimburse us a percentage. So you have to actually do the work. Another thing to know about the FEMA projects is they have to approve all that, and there's a delay. So we passed the tax to accumulate GRT, and that fund is restricted to be used to secure bonding so that the city has money to do the repairs to then get reimbursed. And that's very complicated, but that's what's happened. As of today, Mac, do you have an estimate of how much GRT we've accumulated? Through June, we've collected $5.86 million. Your three, all of ours, because we all pay it, our .375 GRT increase in the last year has accumulated $5.8 million to be used to secure bonding, to fix our city, and get reimbursed by the federal government, a certain percentage.

If I can, Chris, do you have an estimated amount of how much it's going to cost and let them know how much it's going to cost to fix it?

We have an estimated $170 million in damages total citywide.

That does not include any damages to the flood commission that lands outside of it. That's the difference. They are not funded back. And we had a flood commission of $70 million for the project.

That's correct. pretty significant generational event for those of us that live in roswell and see a couple young people here the decisions we make now are going to affect multiple generations of roswellians as it comes to the money and the repairs it's not going to happen overnight but we're all going to be here dealing with it and our kids will be dealing with it and our kids kids will be dealing with it and just fact of life okay so that's kind of where we are on bonding and grt so obviously we encourage you guys to pass that in the public hearing so that we can get the money to do the repairs. I want to talk briefly about some of the major features of Roswell and the city of Roswell that were damaged. So there were seven, Matt? Max might, now if you guys don't know Matt Rogers, he's been working, I just get to stand up here and say cool stuff. Matt Rogers works on this project every day since the flood occurred and lots of city departments have been working on this. I just get to take all the credit and be in paper. But Matt actually does all the work and I just get to stand here. So, max seven? Seven. There were seven significant city of Roswell owned properties in the flood plain. that were damaged. The first was that canoeing park, the park's IT building, and our vagabond IT people are still roaming around, which is right there. That has been deemed significantly damaged, so it can be replaced. Over 50% of its value was lost in the flood. There used to be, I didn't really know what this was called, but I guess there's a little brick building, rock building over by the tennis courts where we all play pickleball now. because we're old, and that is the old tennis pro building. That has also been significantly damaged. That's the city of Roswell building. As you go east and we come across Union and Washington, we have the Boy Scout building on the west side of Missouri. That has been significantly damaged. We have the Roswell adult center, significant damage. Going east further, We have the Roswell Museum, which not only the structure, but also lots of our irreplaceable items were damaged. We have the Roswell Convention Center. The Roswell Convention Center has not been deemed significantly damaged. Its damage estimate is 46% of the value. 50% of the value is the mark that it turns over. And the museum's still being determined? Yes. Yes. We've submitted a version to consider substantial damage And a lot of this really technical damage stuff, one of the best things the city did shortly after the flood, we got very lucky because I think their proximity to us through Redoso, we hired some very sophisticated FEMA consultants, and they are usually attending our flood recovery task force meeting, DEV and JET, And they are fantastic in maneuvering through this federal money quagmire. It's very complicated. We're not going slow because we want to, we're going slow because we have to. We don't have a choice. And then, so the convention center has been not deemed significantly damaged. It's at 46% of its value. What we're testing now is the cost of mitigation efforts and what that value will occur. And then there's the old Roswell, we call it the parks, what do we call it? Storage building on 12th and Virginia. That's been significantly damaged. So all of our city buildings are in the current floodplain, these seven buildings. And the floodplain is not likely to get smaller. The floodplain, if anything, might get bigger. FEMA can change the floodplain. I believe, and this is just purely speculation on my part, but I think it's a really good guess, that the floodplain will increase in size and likely in depth because of this event. And I would be willing to bet a body part, probably a non-essential body part, that we will see the floodplain that was removed from the floodplain increase and be put back in. We don't know this for sure. We're just saying there's a likelihood that there will be a change in our floodplain, our depths, the latitude, the breadth, and everything like that. So that sucks. So fortunately for me and Mac and the Flood Recovery Task Force is we actually don't have to decide how this is all put back together. All of you get to decide. or ultimately get to make the decision, your city councilors, all of you, everyone you know gets to contribute to what we do and what we expect out of our community. Because what we do get to do is we can decide not to do certain things and we can take money from certain areas and we can consolidate project money into other areas. We can consolidate certain functions in certain buildings and we can relocate them if we want to. Now, where we relocate these things to, what we provide for the community is up to you guys and decided by these guys. Our job as a task force is just to give you the facts, even if they are not pleasant, give you some advice, provide you with some technical data, and walk away. We're all part of it, we're all in it together. So the next part of this is you've got this tax and you've got this bond and we have this money coming from FEMA. And now there's one more thing we need to do. Well, we have a lot of things we need to do, but this is another key part of it in my work, which is our, for an engineering company, we would call this a critical path and we have to be able to chew gum and walk down the street and rub our bellies at the same time. Flood is something that we can't control. We can't control the weather.

Maybe we could a little bit.

They're playing around with it. But we can control our flood control structures. Come out, Mac, a little bit. Part of flood recovery, and we did the hard part. We already did the really crappy part, which was get up that Saturday and Sunday morning and the weeks that followed And we cleaned up our city and we tried to help people clean out their houses and it sucked. Now we're getting the money. Now we've got a LiDAR study, but we need to do one other thing and that's, we need to do a drainage study. And that was on the ICIP list last year. We have funding for it. We need to get professionals, not people like me, not people like my company, I don't know of any professional working in Roswell, and there are a lot of technical professionals in Roswell, that has the qualifications to do what we need to do next, which is figure out, given these conditions, what are the things we can spend money on, which we can get reimbursed for, to reduce the effects of flooding, because some of what we've done is we have modified our environment. We have built a relief route. We have paved more land. We have created things. We have affected this course. And there are things that we can do. And they're not necessarily expensive or super expensive. There are things we can do to affect future floods. And in order to do that, and everything accumulates, if we do something back here at the relief route, like tell the DOT to put some more culverts underneath there. No, that's coming, Darrell. Just get ready. that will change what this looks like. If we put in big storage retention ponds in certain key places, that will change what happens. But all of that, from back here to the west, through our city, and not just up on the Spring River Corridor, but also down on the Hondo, all of that can make us more resilient to future disasters. All of that can improve the situation. not going to guarantee it goes away that's impossible if it rains like it did again it's not going to be great and it could or it might not and we would hope that it wouldn't although we do like the rain so it's touch it's hard we can do things in order to do that we need a comprehensive drainage study done by technical professionals that will tell us what we can do Things that we can do that can be reimbursed by FEMA and we can increase the resilience of our community to future disaster. Peter Drucker says, good management is doing the right thing or doing things right. Good leadership is doing the right thing. We need to do the right things right now, even though we're not going to be around to see the results of it. We've got to plant the trees our kids take shade under and we have to create around these problems and see what we can do. So we got the bond. We got the taxes. We got the FEMA money. We need to study because we don't want to make decisions, in my opinion. We don't want to make decisions now that any of the money we spend, it floods again. We got to try to make this better. I don't know what that is. I have ideas, but I don't know how to do it. We need to pay someone to do it for us. And I would encourage the city council to do that very aggressively. And I would encourage you guys to come to the flood recovery task force and start talking about the community aspect of our museum, our convention center, the department heads. We hope that you guys will come and talk about the problems you have and the things you need. We don't want to have any more fire trucks in the drain. You know, anything we can do to help you, Chief, you know, just a little procedure, that's all I'm saying. It's not very painful, but it makes a big difference in the long run. We've got to do these things, and we've got to do all of them at the same time, because they're all going to converge. We know what to do, we've got the money to do it, and we know what the community expects us to do, and then we need to go do it. And if we can do those things, we'll be better off than we were. Okay? And that's it. Any questions? Mr. Mayor?

I just should You should point out that the capacity of the Hondo River Channel is 1,100 cubic feet per second. If you have water coming out of the two dams, Rocky La Jolla is 450 feet per cubic second, and it does not have a gate. It does have the storage capacity of 120,000 acre feet of water. The Hondo River Channel has 450 cubic feet per second coming out of HIF, and it has 12,000 acre feet of water storage. But that is 900 cubic feet of water coming down the 1,100 foot channel. That means 200 cubic feet to go through Roswell. But the problem is you have from Rocky Arroyo's Dam to the corner of the base gate, you have the possibility that that is nine and a quarter miles. And according to Dick Smith, our last flood engineer, that has the capacity of having 10,000 cubic feet per second coming off that land, and all that's gonna have to end up going into 200 cubic feet per second of water. So you're short 9,800 feet space for the water. And so that's why we have to look on the drainage and see where to go to get the drainage water. When you move it, you really can't move it straight downhill because it gathers speed and it is uncontrollable. You need to meander it. And then when you go across and take it across the 285 is one thing. chances of getting it across the train track is absolutely unbelievable because they do not respond to issues and problems that are there. This is a constant problem with the trains and we have a small problem with the highway. Yes, the trains are a huge problem and they flood an awful lot of material and they don't get too excited about fixing things. but you have to get that water to the Pecos River as quick as you can without getting so much speed in that water that it does damage to all your structures that you're moving the water in.

Let me show you what Mr. Mayor has talked about because he knows this really well as the flood person himself, Commissioner. So turn over dances out here on the hondo and there's rocky rojo and that's one of those channels right there, there is no gate on rocky rojo. So there's no ability to close it and reduce them. So what he's talking about in very simple terms on the map is right there right now when you're cursing. Then the Hondo comes down, and it has a gate. That gate was not automated, so that gate was unable to be stopped very quickly. Then that water went across Brown Brothers, and what it actually looks like it did, Mr. Mayor, if you look at the LIDAR, is it did go over the channel and went overland and didn't actually extensively go down the Hondo channel. There's obviously a constriction there around the landfill, and those are little things we've got to look at. No silver bullet. There's no one thing we're going to do that's going to make it all go away. But there are lots of little things we can do that can make the situation better, right? There's a gate. We used to, the Conservancy District, which we all pay taxes for, has a right to divert Hondo floodwater into the Hondo Reservoir, which is west of Roswell. There are lots of little things we're going to have to commit to, and we need to know what to do. Anyone else? Counselors? Thank you all for listening to my TED Talk. I got more than three minutes, Councilor Arpeza. Thank you, sir. We appreciate you guys very much and the opportunity to serve you guys and continue working with you. Come see us Wednesday at 10 o'clock.

Before you should come and walk down the street, would you clean your hands so you don't get anything on your belly? I won't.

I've been trying to work on my belly, sir. Yes, sir. All right. Goodbye. Thank you, Matt. Thank you, everybody.

Next, we have... Omar Gonzalez for airport updates and including my ability with challenges here. Our bodies here too, so we gotta give her a little credit.

She is here. Thank you Mr. Mayor. That's pretty tough to follow. Pretty tough act right there. But uh. It's gonna keep you guys kind of a small update. The AEC didn't meet this month, but uh. Little bit of updates here. We got the generator. It was submitted. They did submit the specifications and Molson said that they are preparing bid documents. There's not a schedule yet when they're going to have the bids, but that's coming. As far as the electrical vault, the FAA has confirmed the funding approval for it. The offer should be in soon. Construction will begin as soon as that grant is in place. And then we're going to talk about the master plan, which we've been waiting for for quite some time now on that master plan. We finally got approval for it. We finally got the master plan in. And because we got the master plan, it doesn't necessarily mean that we're going to be getting – that we have the projects approved, right? What it does is it sets the airport up for the opportunity to do – future projects in the future with the FAA, and it sets us up in a better spot to be able to get more grants, more funding to help grow the airport for future businesses that are going to come in. The BLM taxiway, that one should have been completed, but that one ran into a bunch of hiccups, I guess. They ran into a bunch of problems. The rain came. That delayed it some. I've talked to constructors and they should be getting their electric part that they worked on. That's gonna be inspected and they have told us that they should be done by the end of the month on that project. So that project's coming to complete. The Taxiway Charlie was completed. We did have a walkthrough on Tuesday. I believe it was Tuesday we had a walkthrough on that one, so that one's completed. There's a few minor issues that we did spot out when we did the inspection of it, but the instructor said that they will be on it to fill those holes. They're right on the edge line of the taxiway, which could serve as... It could be dangerous, right, for the airplanes. The airplanes, when they're taxiing down there and they veer off a little bit, their tires could go in the... the cracks, so we're getting those filled in. The multi taxiway project is still under review, still being in development from Lochner. Okay, as we move on, we move on to the southeast water line, the southeast sewer line and project that is carry over from last year. We continue to make significant progress on the south sewer line and water line project funded through the city's $6.5 million that the city still has from the LEEDA grant. The utility improvements will extend water and sewer services to the southeastern corner of the air center, providing the infrastructure needed to support future commercial and industrial developments in this area. The LEADER grant also is funding the construction of a much needed new lift station that's out there at the base. This lift station provides utility services to the whole entire airport and base area. So the whole area goes right to that lift station and the lift station pumps it to the wastewater, which is on College. The addition of these utilities is already generating interest in the air center. So recently a firm expressed interest in approximately 105 acres on the southeast corner of the air center. So this job is Project Seeker. It's going to provide 300 jobs to Roswell. They've already conducted phase one of the environmental study. This company does recycling of batteries. They do recycling of aircraft parts, turbine fans, and so they have a patent on all of these. But we do appreciate Mr. McCormick's continued assistance in securing the advance of the granting for this project, which is helping position the Air Center for a long-term economic growth and investment. So now we're gonna move over to, The airlines, United Airlines, they reported for the month of June, they reported 151, I'm sorry, 1,539, which brings it to 51% of their passenger boarding, which also, and I think we got pictures, which also has produced... didn't get them loaded okay so which also has produced another another problem i think we've talked about this before which a good problem but it's still a problem is the parking out there at the air center i don't know if you've been out there lately but um it's just it's overflowing now into the the grounds into the field so all the parking lots full It's just the overflowing now into the street right there with it goes down to what is that Challenger? Challenger Drive. It's overflowing the Challenger Drive. And, you know, which is, like I said, it's a good problem, but it is a problem.

Does the master plan have a plan in here for that?

You can have it let you build up.

Correct. And so finally, we're going to talk about the restaurant. So for the month of June, the restaurant made $13,623.09. So I'd stand for any questions. Did you say anything about the boarding of American Airlines? I didn't. I didn't get that one, no.

Questions of Omar? Yes. I was thinking that you told us we were on percentage. Our last thing we're like for United was up to like 71% or something somewhere.

No, I don't think it was that high. I think it was, there's still 50s. It may have been 47. I think it's, but it has gone up. It may have been 47. I can get that number for you and I'll give it to you. I'll email you.

Okay. Can you get it to us?

Yeah, I sure can. Appreciate it. Thank you. Okay. Next we have... Mr. Towns, here for an update. Welcome to the day.

Mr. Mayor, honorable members of the council, thank you very much. I just have a few things that I'd like to talk about. The first is, I'm delighted to say, with the help of many people, the emergency runway is actually finally under development. The equipment is in place. They are smoothing the ground, and at this point, I believe by mid-August, we should be complete. It'll be 6,000 feet, 5,000, which will be paved, and then two 500-foot overruns at each end, 60 feet wide, and that is moving ahead. Secondly, as I I must have been slowly optimistic last time we met. I had hoped we would have over 100 aircraft. Well, we at this point have registrations for approximately 90 aircraft. That's 31 more than last year. So if I'm doing what all good statisticians do, You play with your figures. That's a 50% improvement in aircraft that will be raised. It's mainly because the Unlimited, which stood down last year, and the Sport Class Unlimited are already raised with 15 aircraft. Sport has 16 aircraft at this point. Jets also have 16 aircraft. And they will be using the new, what they call the mock force. The FAA has approved a larger force that we've never used before, never had available in Reno, that will be permitted to have planes flying up to 600 miles an hour. So they've nicknamed it the mock force. I must say, It will be interesting, we in the jet category have two Russian MiG-17s registered. The MiG-17, as you know, has afterburner. As the head of RAVRA, I've been haggling with the jet class to say that at least in this first year, and probably forever, I would not like to see them racing with their afterburner engaged. And I would love to see them bring a demonstration of the effectiveness of the afterburner for the crowd, but not on the race course. I have not necessarily won that one yet. There's one aspect that helps my argument, though. The MiG-17 does not have very large fuel tanks. When they kick in, Bobby knows better than most people here, when they kick in that afterburner, it sucks a lot of fuel. And so it's not clear that they could run it very long in any event. The T-6 class, my class, unfortunately, we're down to eight aircraft. As I said earlier, the accident in 2023 cost me two of my finest racers. To the accident, as I had to say, it cost me four racers, two wives, who basically said to their husbands, I hope you have enjoyed racing your T6 because you're not going to race it anymore. And because it was a post-race accident, it really shook up a good number of the spouses. So right now we are rebuilding our class, Formula 1, 12 biplanes, 12 install. I believe it will come in at 12. At the moment it's registered at 8. So we're looking forward to this. We expect to put out the list today but it is being held up i won't name them one of the hot the hotels that we had arrangements with seems to be finding it difficult to live to their contract and the point is the minute we put out the full list of races it's my belief that the fans that have been waiting to see how many unlimited sport guys put back will then be buying a great number of tickets and taking up the hotel because the hotel in question was the one that we have allocated to support the sport plan until we resolve this issue we probably won't release that list i'm hoping Before I leave on Sunday, we will resolve it by tomorrow night, and we will get the list set on Monday, and we're very much looking forward to that. So with that, I would like to share two quick videos that are part of our advertising campaign. But before we run the first one, almost all of you, I believe, are well aware of the phrase, last ratio on deck. It refers to literally the last plane from our races is down. That is the moment in time when my anxiety level drops about 80%, because it means, like last year, we had no accidents, hopefully. So we have created a new character called Elrod for last race you're on deck. And LROT is going to figure prominently in our advertising. Indeed, we have little LROT caricatures that will be available for sale. So this, if you haven't seen some of LROT online yet, this will be your first introduction to LROT. I think we have the short video first, and then a 30-second one. I think that follows. So if you could...

Are you ready for thrills, action, and excitement?

Then bring your crew to Roswell, New Mexico for the National Championship Air Races and Air Show.

Thank you.

Are you ready for... And then we have... I think that was the long one in the end. So now we have the short one. With the exception of the Unlimiteds that you saw in that picture, which we obviously had to take the footage from the last Reno race, the crowd scenes and everything else were from last year's event. So I'm really pleased to say these are, with the exception of sport representation and limits, these are all from the filming we did last year. So these are running in airports, in our drive markets, and our mid-range markets from Dallas, and they'll be running in Albuquerque. They're on YouTube, and they're being fairly widely distributed. But I hope you like Elrath. It was our best effort at combining a little of the Roswell alien story with our future activities nourishing. So with that, I'd take any questions if you have any. And I'd just end, as always, by thanking the city and the council and the state for everything you've done to make this possible.

Do you have questions for Mr. Kell? No, I'm all right. How many days will the Thunderbirds be here?

So the Thunderbirds rise, who's the head, will arrive on Wednesday. And then on Thursday, the full team comes in. And on Friday, Thursday, they're probably going to do a raffle and everything. Then on Friday, they'll do the full routine. which is practice officially, but it's literally everything they do. And then Saturday and Sunday, both days, full routine. And then on the Friday night, the 18th, working in conjunction with the city support and the county. there'll be a Thunderbirds public reception being held on the courthouse lawn downtown between 6 and 9. And we picked that location notwithstanding some challenges, but partially because we wanted a location off the airport that expanded the chance for the public to come. And then when we say meet team. We need the team. The Thunderbirds are a team in total of 70 people. The pilots are the pointy end of the spear. Those other 60 plus people are what are necessary to keep those aircraft running in tip-up shape, available for everything to be done. And I will give a positive shout-out to AFLITE. Not always my favorite group, but They will be doing all the handling for fueling, so it'll be a great event for them, but for the sport and the unlimited, we use high-octane fuel, 140 slash 160, and that requires special handling, and so we're working with Bobby and the App Flight to get browsers that can handle all of that fuel. Honestly, again, borrow from the mayor's comment about the city services. Everybody is pulling together to make this event happen. But that's the Thunderbirds. Anything else? Ticket sales. Ticket sales are over a half a million. Our belief is as low as it is at this point because a lot of the fans are It costs us reputation in last year when the NLM is dropped out.

Yes, sir.

And so I think a lot of people are basically waiting to see the roster, which is why we're trying to get that out. And I'm hoping that's Monday of next week. We are budgeting for 2 million ticket sales. So I'm an optimistic guy. My wife says I'm ever optimistic, and then she consoles to say, Yes, Fred, but frequently wrong. I'm hoping that's not the case this year. Thank you very much.

Fred, there was one thing. I noticed that Elrod was standing in the cockpit. Was that Bob? I mean, she's the only one who can stand up in a cockpit like that.

Well, Elrod's not very big either, but, you know, he's a wonderful, smiley, green fellow. So I think everybody will love Elrod, and we'll be doing a lot of In our advertising locally, borrowing from the old, we'll be doing some contests for people. Where did you see Elrod? They'll be popping up all around this city. Thank you very much. Appreciate everything you do.

Thank you. Okay. Next, we have Alex Maycrabble. If we could... On page 78, for everybody's knowledge, the only out-of-state travel we had was for the police department for a K-9 unit. Anybody have any questions about that? That's all we had. They were going to Texas. Honey Grove, Texas. So, okay. Okay, so we've got that now we have public participation and these items are limited to three minutes. There's a general rule, so please try to keep good. We have first we have Miss Julie Seiler. You've heard of Miss Seiler before? Miss Seiler?

Hi, Mayor Jennings, City Council members. My name is Julie Seiler. I live at 1504 Taylor Drive. As you had mentioned, I was in front of the City Council at your last special session meeting in regards to my neighbor's dog who attacked and bit my sister in my backyard on June 12th. This has been an ongoing situation since October of 2025. I've gone to the neighbor's home several times about his dog running at large. Each time he says, you need to prove it. I've showed him numerous pictures and videos and he has agreed, yes, that was his dog. He also makes the comment that he and his girlfriend work in law enforcement. The dog owner was only given a citation for a dog running at large when my sister was bitten. I think a medical report from Eastern Mexico Medical Center ER doctor would trump any report from an animal control officer. I investigated and I found the definition of a vicious animal in the City of Roswell Code relating to Vicious Animals Ordinance 18-07 and it states, for purposes of this section, a vicious animal is a dog that without provocation bites or attacks human beings or other animals or in a vicious or terrorizing manner approaches any person in apparent readiness and attitude of attack. why I'm wondering this dog was not considered a vicious animal at that time. I have been talking with Fry since January of 2026. He has not been supportive with me. As a matter of fact, he argued that my sister was not bitten even when he had a medical report in front of him with the diagnosis of a dog bite. The stories about Fry go on. I recently found out something kind of interesting. I didn't know who my neighbor even was. I found out his name is the owner of the dog, Miguel Barrientos, who is a detective for the Roswell Police Department. The writing is on the wall for me as to why Fry has not helped me. Fry works for the Roswell Police Department as well, and he is over animal control. If this isn't the blue wall of silence, I don't know what is. My sister still has not received documents of Miguel's dog's vaccine records, and this incident happened on June 12th. Barry Antos pled not guilty. I was in the courtroom when he was in front of Judge Szczeski on June 23rd. Judge Szczeski told him there better not be any more reports of his dog running at large. July 3rd, Miguel Barrientos' dog was in my yard again. Miguel Barrientos obviously has no respect for authority. Law enforcement officers should enforce the law. Barrientos can't even follow the law to keep his dog in his yard. No one is above the law. I sent pictures and videos of the dog in my yard on July 3rd. to Chief Aldonado as well as Frye. I called RPD and Animal Control for them to come file a report. No one came. I do have to say Chief Aldonado has been wonderful to me.

He is very, very supportive.

And he's been very supportive. I see that he truly puts citizens of Roswell as a priority. Frye has not contacted me, even though I asked him to after this July 3rd incident. I do know a lot of wonderful law enforcement officers with RPD, and it's a shame that Fry and Barrientos have given RPD a bad reputation. I think this should have never gotten this far out of hand. Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay. Next we have Mr. Cortez. I think he's already through so we're happy and then we have Mr. Gabriel Cobos. Mr. Cobos.

Hey Mayor, hey city council members. How you doing today? One thing I want to know about is are we going to get a data center?

Yeah, we have. I'm not aware of any. There are people, there are plans, people that have plans for data centers, but I don't know if they will focus the city. It's in the county. It's in the county, so I have not focused the city on anything about.

Okay, the public needs to know about this and the public needs to make the decision on that decision. Another thing that I want to know about is Why are things not being done with the rivers, you know? With the hundo, with everything, you know, with the flood, you know, yeah, we already had, what's the name, to talk about that. But, and another thing that I want to know about is, for instance, the situation with the safety corridor on South Main. Y'all had spoken about this and it was posted on Facebook that on the daily record that y'all know that there's a problem with the safety corridor going south and north. Y'all are moving slow enough, but y'all are going to move even slower even though it's a safety concern. There needs to be a paved shoulder. There needs to be adequate turning lanes to turn onto the entire roadway.

We had an issue we did with turning lanes on sunset. I'm not aware of anything that's worse about our streets. I think we have this. Do we? No, we don't have the safety.

Well, there's been multiple accidents on South Main. I talked to you last morning. Yes, and. You know there needs to be.

It needs to be paved shoulder. Mr. Nahar tried to quiet me up and put the millings that were left over from the work that was done. It needs to be paved. I'm surprised that Coca-Cola hasn't said anything. I'm surprised Pepsi hasn't said anything. And then it would be nice if we would have our south side of Roswell beautified. That way when people leave the airport, it doesn't look ghetto. That's fine. I don't know the game's working.

I could just say on the, in looking at where we're going, Main Street, as it goes to the base, all that, the only thing the city owns really is the street. And that was some of the decisions made years ago. We have a number of issues on roads, a lot of them related to the flood. And we're looking at that on the rivers and everything else. We've been working with the FEMA and those people to get things together so we can get plans together to work on the fixing the river channels all the way up and down the river. And I thought we just got some funds the other day on some of that, but I could be wrong on that. I thought they just said something.

From Joppa north, I mean from Joppa up to the base, it does be hill. There's no doubt. There was a mill in Overfield, I believe, from Joppa all the way to, I believe, Hobbs. But, you know, it's...

there's a lot going on right now there's already cracks that are from the east to the west i mean it's yeah poorly done by our talks uh first i uh thank you mr mayor uh i just want to say thank you for coming out and talking it means a lot that you take the time and have these thoughts and share them with us

I do want to actually express, when it comes to the data center, I've seen a lot of concern about that on Facebook, but I do want to point out there that the county commission is the one that has actually been looking at that for a good moment. We haven't had any real public feedback on it, on what they're deciding, but I will say, correctively, as far as I understand, it's not near the city limits. It's far out. don't want to hear well and that's what i'm telling you because i'm not there but what we need is we need community members to inform the county commission of your thoughts i'll be calling the county commissioner yes so they vote on it and they meet once a month 9 a.m i believe it's on thursday morning so please please i keep asking people right here i'll be here thursday thank you

They working on it. I think the airport now does all the grounds and all that stuff around there. Did y'all go back to having different crews to different areas?

Can't the airport put like some of the money that they get from the racist thing to do improvements? Because considering everybody that comes and lands sees everything that, and I mean, I've had people come from out of state and tell me, wow, it looks like I'm in a third world country. That's embarrassing.

There's a lot happening in the master plan, Mr. Cole, also at some of those things. I also live at the base, so I understand what you're talking about, how it looks. And coming in certain, you know, certain needs. When you come down to the base, it doesn't look real bad right there right now. But back off in the back where the planes are going to be or people are going to be driving through, that really looks bad in that place. That was supposed to have all those pretty, beautiful trees. That was supposed to block all that industrial stinky smell and all that. never happened, all the trees are dead, and they promised we were going to have trees that's going around the whole thing where that grass is, all those trees are dead, there's garbage there again, and so I understand what you're saying because I see it on the record, so I'm not coming You know, I hear what you said. And so that is something I don't know when we go through with the airport. I don't necessarily know. You know, I complain about the trash and the, you know, those things quite often. But like I said, when they're going to drive through to get to the airport, they're going to see all those back, not A Street, I Street, G Street, and all those really rough areas. People coming on those planes and driving around going to that airport, that's what they're going to see. They don't have to come to their front gate. They can go around the back. And that's where it's really rough, off and off in the back. So I don't know who would be in, you know, we're going to be having these multi-million dollar air races and things like that. I think they ought to do something more, you know, once the Air Force gets situated. You know, you want to beautify it around there where the people are going to see. And I don't know who that gravel place is, but they're not living up to their word about beautifying that neighborhood. you know, with their trees and the water and all that stuff, they're not living up to that. I remember when we fussed, when I fussed about them blocking that street, that that was going to happen. And I thought that was going to happen. That's exactly what happened. They didn't live up to their guard. Like I said, half the trees are dead. We need to walk them accountable.

They need to get sighted.

Ms. Barb, you were going to say something? Oh, that's right. You were ready to say something. And so I understand. So I just think if you're going to have half a million, however many people they say are coming through here to see that, look what they're going to see. So we need to be careful, you know what I mean, careful what we ask for, because we're not going to take care of the, you know, they're putting the trees up in the front, in the middle, you know, when you come up, they got the trees growing and the water and grass, all that, but when you go around where they are, the rest of the people are going to see it doesn't look as nice. And so, and everybody keep telling me, y'all know what y'all going to say, y'all don't, I'm sure my name will be in the paper about it, that there is a north-south difference. You can say there's none, but there is a north-south difference. You can see when you pass, like most cities, when you pass a certain area, you know what area you're going into. Once you get to a certain part, you know where the money stops. And I do understand that the county gets part of that, pass the relief route on, but it's a mess. It's a mess. The dead grass, grass is this tall at the rehab and all those places over there the grass is up this high no one touched the grass it's a mess and so i think as we get ready for these races we need to consider what the people are going to be seeing when they come in just to see come in and see the races thank you okay thank you mr provost yes so right there where he's talking about where the trees are at i think that's city

Excuse me, right there, we started about, I don't think that city on property and then, like, the rehab we're talking about. I know that that property right there still owned by the state. So we're constantly calling the state to come over. So then you keep cutting that grass. We had a fight with them to come remove those trees that all fell down. Um, but yeah, there's a lot of property out there that that is overgrown. I agree with you, but a lot of it's not city owned property. So. We reach out to those fields that are right there next to where Ileah's at. Those are privately owned as well. But we do, we reach out to wherever we can to the owners to come cut the fields.

What about the gravel place?

Which gravel place are you speaking, are you talking about on the backside?

but you're talking about the emotion plant that emotion plant the air gone it's a company name yeah it's a company place yeah we gave them that street and all that they promised to make that so that all the trees will be pretty and grow up and so that all the neighbors and i think they're the ones that own all that property right there yeah um we can reach out to them

Thank you.

And there's trash on their property too, so, you know, I just, there's a couple things I think they need to be taken care of. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Gold.

Next we have item 17, the public hearing. The whole public hearing on votes on a restaurant beer and wine with on-the-premises consumption with a patio service. application number BLA 5 zeros and then 18225 Kelly's Cafe doing business as Hell's Mexican Restaurant located in 2601 North Main and Roswell and I believe she's here so we can have Councillor Hillibrand Thank you Mr. Mayor

I move that we hold a public hearing and vote on the restaurant, beer, wine and spirits license of the compromise's consumption and padding of service for L.A.'s restaurant doing business as L.A.'s Mexican restaurant located at 2601 North Main Street, Roswell, Mexico.

Second.

We have a motion. Who's the second?

I'm the second. Councilor Arnold first, that one. Okay, do we have any discussion? Yes, sir.

Mr. Mayor, we need to swear in.

So anyone who plans on testifying, if you'd please stand up so you can be sworn in.

Can you raise your right hand, please? Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you're about to give is the truth, the full truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? Yes.

You said, yes, yes. Okay. Okay. Thank you, ma'am.

Thank you. Thank you. Mayor council members. If I may. Real quick, I want to make a correction. It's 36 of 1. North main, it's correct on on the application and everything else.

It's just on the abstract. Yes. Thank you proceed. Yes, sir.

Under the statute, the governing body is required to conduct a public hearing on the application and must roll call, vote, approve or disapprove the requested application. This hearing is quasi-judicial in nature and must be conducted accordingly. Helles Cafe, doing business in Helles Mexican Restaurant, application VLNA 18225, located at 3601 North Main Street, Roswell, New Mexico, has applied for a restaurant, beer, wine, and spirits license. with on-premises consumption and with patio service. In considering whether to approve or disapprove the application, the Governing Body may only disapprove the application but find substantial evidence to support one of the following. The proposed location is within an area where the laws of New Mexico prohibit the sale of alcohol beverages or the issuance or transfer would be in violation of zoning or other ordinances in the Governing Body. Under the zoning verification letter, per the request of Angelica Woods, the owner, it certifies that according to the City of Roswell official zoning map, the property located at 3601 North Main. Is Z2 under the ordinance Z2 community commercial district section 2 use regulations permitted uses are as follows 2 or 20 restaurants, food, drink, lounges and liquor. The city of China has approved the notes. Um, of council's consideration of the application, do the time constraints liquor control act applications do not go to a board or committee. City staff does not make any specific recommendation, but notice the following of city council consideration. Because alcohol and gaming division has granted preliminary approval of the application, the application has established a prom of facial entitlement of the license. The burden disapproval is then shifts to the city. The Mexico case law has held that the director of the gaming division of the new Mexico regulation and licensing department may still issue a license. There does not appear to be evidence that the location is in the area where the sale of alcohol beverages is prohibited by law. There does not appear to be evidence that the sale of alcohol at the location will be in violation of any zoning law or other ordinance. And you can see the application in regards to the attachments. The address is correct there as well as in the zoning verification letter. Any questions.

yes mrs wood would you care to make any statements okay the questions from members of the committee for the council okay uh seeing no questions um a motion by councillor halebrant second by council carl if the clerk would call the role counselor helen brand all right

Councilor Arnold? Yes. Councilor Oropesa?

Yes.

Councilor Moore?

No.

Councilor Johnson?

Yes.

Councilor Halvorson? Yes. Councilor Gass?

Yes.

Councilor Mariposa?

Yes.

Motion passes 7-1.

Okay, thank you. On a motion by Council Hillbrand, seconded by Council Arnold, item 17, a public hearing on a beer and wine license has been granted to beer and wine application number 18-225, Kelly's Cafe, doing business at Kelly's Mexican Rooms, located at 3601 North Main, as due and passed by Rule 7 of Parliament 999. Thank you very much. Next, we do item 18, Ordinance 2605 of Public Hearing, to consider adopting the proposed ordinance 2605 ordinance for the issuance of industrial revenue bonds for the Gallagher solar LLC project. And it's the execution of a bond purchase agreement, indentured lease and sublease. Councilor Cavanaugh, would you please?

Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to hold a public hearing to consider adopting proposed ordinance 26-05, an ordinance authorizing the issuance of industrial revenue bonds, an execution bond, purchase agreement, and future lease and sublease.

I have a motion by Councillor Arnold. Is there a second? Second. By Councillor Halverson, a second?

Okay, thank you mayor counselors Gallagher. Gallagher solar seeks to develop a 2.7 megawatt community solar facility on 2 parcels of land. Also known as lots 1 and 2 of Gallagher summary. Replant located at 1612 East 2nd and Roswell. The project was granted a conditional use permit under zoning case CUP-25-0046. And the applicant intends to develop all property as a community solar facility. The 2.7 megawatt system will provide credits to approximately 600 homes in XL service territory. This facility will constitute an industrial development project. The governing body has approved the IRB's inducement resolution in March of 2026. Community solar projects are competitively chosen by the New Mexico Public Regulation Commission, and I believe we have a representative online from Gallagher Solar. Stand for any questions.

Okay, is there... Is the gentleman online? Yes, sir. This is Pierre Jornel. Can everyone hear me from CB North America?

Okay. And your name one more time?

Yeah, my name is Pierre. That's P-I-E-R-R-E. And last name is Jornel. J-O-U-R-N-E-L. Okay. Okay, Pierre, go ahead. Yeah, so good evening to the council members of the City of Roswell, Mayor Jennings, and everyone in attendance this evening. And thank you for your time. I want to particularly thank City Manager Mr. Hesantema, as well as the City of Roswell Legal Committee for the incredible help and support throughout this process. We've met multiple times and have begun discussions around this IRB structure since November of 2025. So as I mentioned, my name is Pierre Jonelle. I represent CB North America, which is the developer for Gallagher Solar LLC. I'm also joined today by our local council, Eduardo Duffy from Southern Thayer and Brown. And I do apologize that I could not attend this meeting in person tonight. So along with our submission of various documents related to the IRB process, I did want to provide a brief update on the community solar project and where it stands today. The project is approximately 2.7 megawatts of solar generation located in the city of Roswell on the east part of town along Second Street. For the benefit of everyone here, the project is located right at the city limits adjacent to the trailer village art community park. It was mentioned just before, but about 2.7 megawatts roughly constitutes approximately 500 to 600 homes. in terms of renewable energy production. The project is located on two parcels of land, which are approximately 15 acres, and are owned by a private landowner, Mr. Chad Yowager. We've signed a lease with the landowner for a 20-year duration, guarantee long-term lease payments while also allowing the development of the parcel of land for renewable energy generation. This project has a signed interconnection agreement with Xcel Energy, the utility, and will also constitute significant distribution line upgrades within the local distribution grid. It was mentioned earlier, but the project received its planning and zoning approval from the City of Roswell under case 22-020, COC, as well as case 22-021, And then lastly, and most importantly, this project will be part of the New Mexico Community Solar Program. I know it was mentioned earlier, and then in fact got a call from a member of the city of Roswell, but I do want to confirm that this project has made it into the community solar program in New Mexico. So we're between disciplines. Contrary to large scale utility projects, the power that's going to be produced here distributed locally for residents in the city of Roswell. And in addition, as part of the New Mexico Community Solar Program, residents will be able to subscribe to the project and receive a significant discount on their monthly utility bills. And this is, in fact, the whole principle around community solar, which is to allow access to the benefits of solar for residents without needing to install their own solar panels. So right now, this is really one of the approvals that we're seeking. Ideally, we'll kind of finish developing the project in the fall of 2026, and we're seeking to pull our building and our electrical permits towards the end of the year and hopefully start construction in early 2027. With that, I'll yield my time and I'll happily answer any questions that anyone may have related to the community solar project, and I appreciate it. Okay.

Anyone in the audience would care to speak for or against this? Anyone in the audience would care to speak for or against this? Anyone in the audience would care to speak for or against this? Questions from members of the council?

If I may. Okay. Is the equipment, American Navy equipment, the panels, acceptable?

This is Councilor Johnson. yeah i'm happy to answer that so yes we do we in fact based on the tax credits that we um intend to receive for the project we're we're trying to source american made equipment um so yes the answer to that is yes thank you council uh council hillary thank you mr mayor could you uh tell me how many full-time employees you want to look at payroll once this project is complete and in service yeah Yeah, if I heard the question correctly, was it related to employment once the project is operational?

Correct. How many employees do we have on the payroll once this project is complete and in operation?

Yeah, so it is very limited. Truthfully, what we do is we usually outsource the operation and maintenance, and we try to go with really local companies. So I'd say maybe one or two full-time employees. that will go out periodically to maintain the facility, whether that's to mow the grass or take care of the vegetation. But a lot of it is remote monitoring. Now, I will say that as part of the New Mexico Community Solar Program, we have a local partner to actually build the facility. And so we intend to work with a company called Affordable Solar, which is very big company in new mexico and is a local player for actually uh constructing the facility but once the once the facility is operational there's very few employees that are have on full payroll and and in charge just of this facility thank you any further questions now it's my understanding that some of the homes in this existing area will receive

some lower uh lower electrical rates because if they uh get credits if they decide to participate in this project that's absolutely correct sir so so what's really exciting about a project like this is that you know we use we said that approximately 2.7 megawatts is about 500 homes

As part of the New Mexico Community Solar Program, we'd like to subscribe 51% of our customer base to be low-income households. Those low-income customers will receive a 27% discount on their utility bills for the first five years. And then that reduction will go to 10% for the remaining 15 years. And then for the remaining 50%, it'll be a 10% discount on their monthly utility bills. So overall, as we see electricity prices skyrocketing, this is definitely a benefit for local residents that choose to sign up for community solar through their local utility to receive a discount for this.

Are there any limits on whether or not they have existing solar?

they do not need to have existing solar so they they can sign up through whether their epe excel whatever utility territory they're in they can sign up for the project um and then they'll receive the discount on their utility bill but they do not need to install solar on their own homes or or or on their own parcel of land okay thank you any further questions from council members

Seeing a motion by Councilor Arnold, seconded by Councilor Patterson for the ordinance number 2605 of this public hearing for adopting Proposed Ordinance 2605, an ordinance authorizing the issuance of industrial revenue bonds to Gallaudet Solar LLC and Execution of bond purchase agreement indentures lease and sublease on a motion to pass that if the clerk would call the roll.

Councillor Hill-Cabran?

No.

Councillor Arnold? Yes. Councillor Orovesa?

Yes.

Councillor Moore? No. Councillor Johnson?

Yes.

Councillor Halverson? Yes. Councillor Gass?

Yes.

Councillor McLaughlin?

Yes. I have voted 6 in the Affirmative, 2 in the Negative. Ordinance number 2605 has duly passed the Council. An ordinance authorizing the issuance of the Industrial Revenue Box for Gallagher Solar LLC project Yes, the bond purchase agreement and dentures. Indenture and lease and subloans. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you Sir. Next we go to item. Thank you very much. Yes, item 19. Oops, excuse me. I have 19 in ordinance number 2606 to hold a public hearing. to consider adopting proposed ordinance 2606, law areas in the execution of delivery and loan agreement between the New Mexico Finance Authority for the improvement projects related to their flood commissioners. Counselor Yaz. Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to hold public hearing to consider adoption of proposed ordinance 2606, which authorizes execution and delivery of a loan agreement for the New Mexico Finance Authority for improvement projects related to flood damage. Thank you. And we have a motion by Councilor Gage, seconded by Councilor Moore for the ordinance number 2606 to hold a public hearing to consider adopting the ordinance 2606 to authorize the execution and deliver the loan agreement with the Mexico Finance Authority for the improvement projects related to flood damage. Okay, Mr. Mack.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. As part of the 2025 legislative session, Senate Bill 383 allowed for the issuance of an increase in GRT to fund flood recovery bonds. And in March of 2025, council passed an ordinance increasing the GRT. Approving this ordinance would keep the city on track to sell these flood recovery bonds in September. We have an estimated 60 to 70 million in capacity from the ordinance we passed in March of 2025. um as mentioned earlier we've collected 5.86 million through june and grt revenue for flood recently the new mexico finance authority board has conditionally approved our loan in the amount of 24.3 million and we've got i believe we've got our bond council and bond advisor on the phone if you have any questions.

Okay. Is there anyone in the audience that cares to speak for or against this? Is there anyone in the audience that cares to speak for or against this? Is there anyone in the audience that cares to speak for or against this? Seeing none, councilor, do you have any questions? Seeing none, I would just point out I would like to thank our city attorney at the time and manager, because we sat down and put together this after we had the flood. It's three-eighths of a cent, so we had sufficient money to pay the 25% local cost share that is funded for all the money we get from FEMA. Uh, this, uh, hope we were hoping to get 75,000,000. We still want it for trades. Maybe it'll get up as high as 75, but that would pay for us. If we had up to $300,000,000 worth of damage, uh, that would be the, they will retain. This would be our, uh, max 25 minutes for each a hundred may. And it's what our max is unless they give us a special. rate to go and I think they can go down to 1.8 instead of a quarter and we hope to get 12.8 and we'd have more money than that but Hess helped me a lot. We spent a lot of time going back and forth to Washington to get this passed and that's what allows us to be ahead of the game so we have the money to match whatever FEMA comes up with. So I would encourage you to vote for this any further comments seeing them on a motion by councilor gas signal by council lady moore on orders number 2606 uh to adopt the proposed amendment authorizing issues and delivery of law agreements with the mexico finance authority for improvement of flood projects related to flood damage if the clerk would call the roll

Mr. Mayor, for the record, Councillor Kevin joined the meeting at 7.54.

No, 7. Welcome, Councillor Kevin.

Thank you, Mayor. Go on.

I don't even see any comments. Okay, no. Stealthy. Stealthy, very stealthy. Okay, we're going to call the roll.

Councillor Helmer-Brandt?

Aye.

Councillor Kevin?

Yes.

Councillor Arnold? Yes. Councillor Orovesa?

Yes.

Councillor Moore? Yes. Councillor Johnson? Yes. Councilor Halvorson? Yes. Councilor Gass?

Yes.

Councilor McLaughlin?

Yes. Item 9 of the affirmative, none of the negative. Item ordinance 26-6 has passed. For ordinance 2606, authorizing the execution and delivery of loan agreements for the Mexico Financial Authority for improvement of projects related to flood damage. Okay, next we have item 20, an ordinance The whole public hearing to consider adopting ordinance 2607 in ordinance to refund series 2017 joint water sewer improvement bonds. Councilor Gass. Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to the whole public hearing to consider adopting proposed ordinance 2607 in ordinance to refund the series 2017 joint water sewer improvement bonds. Second. And we have a motion by Councilor Gantt, second by Councilor Marullo. Okay. Mr. Rogers.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. The refinancing of the outstanding joint water and sewer bonds issued in 2017 would also provide a mechanism to fund a loan agreement reserve account and provide for the payment of the principal and interest solely from the revenues of the joint water and sewer utility system. It is anticipated by refinancing this bond that the city would likely save approximately $750,000. The New Mexico Finance Authority Board has also conditionally approved this loan in the amount of $12.8 million.

and again we have our bond council and bond advisor um online if you have any questions in the bottom council they're online did they identify themselves yes sir mr mayor members of the council my name is ian here and i'm with the model swirling law firm we're or the refunding of the 2017 bonds.

Okay, thank you. Okay, is there anyone in the audience who cares to speak in favor of this? Is there anyone in the audience who cares to speak in favor or against item 26, ordinance 2607? We'd like to just join Water Student and Sewer Bonds

refinance is there anyone in the audience who care to speak for or against this saying none counselors because the counselors who deserve to pay for this now for arnold thank you mr right it's actually just a technical question for mr rogers just uh i just needed clarity as i was i was studying this last night we've been kind of rooming off and running my mind tricks but if you look at page 232 Um, the actual. There's a break in the timeline and it shows June 25th, then July 23rd. I I just wanted to deduce that that was the typo, but then it just didn't make sense. So could you clarify if that sequence is correct on there? Not that it's a big deal. It's just for my mind only.

Um. Yes, I believe that is a typo as well. Our bond council may have something to add there as well.

My apologies. I'm trying to guess the page there. Would you remind me again which page of the packet we're talking about?

242. Now, this packet might be different. Your packet might be... It's right at the end of all your things. It's on page six of six. It's the next page after six of six.

If I may, Mayor, it would be item 20 if he's looking at his digital agenda package.

It would be item 20. Item 20. Item 20, thank you. I will find that real quick.

And the question is in reference to the New Mexico Finance Authority Board authorization of simultaneous marketing. It looks like that will occur in June.

um or is is july the correct date yeah oh yeah apologies that would be july thank you thank you so it's june the national board meeting is in june and then there should be july 25th or instead of on items So, okay. Is there any objections to the corrections? Is there any objections to the corrections? Seeing none, the document will be corrected. Any further comments on, any further comments, any chancellors, questions? Seeing none, On a motion by Councilor Gass, seconded by Councilor Arrujo, to approve ordinance 2607, an ordinance to refund series 2017 joint water and sewer improvement funds. On a motion to pass, is the clerk would call the roll. Yes.

I have to apologize real quick. So the question's been asked. on this, whether it's July 25th or June 25th, but you have the NMFA board authorization, the simultaneous marketing on July 23rd, so which is going to come first? The NMFA board meeting? To approve the board meeting? So does that date for the authorization need to be after that meeting meeting that day?

So I believe the authorization has already occurred on June 25th. And then our bond council confirmed that the simultaneous marketing will occur in July. So the timeline is correct.

The New Mexico Finance Authority has already conditionally approved the loan and the marketing will occur in July.

So June 25th is correct? Yes, sir. Proceed, Mr. Mayor. Yeah, so the item B, or the item which says June 25th is actually when the finance board moved to approve the loan so that they can, and they come back and they will have the simultaneous meeting the organization on the 23rd but the finance authority will approve that i guess if they're doing that that's right i believe that that item on the financing schedule here is just out of order yeah it's just out of order but it's not uh it's not incorrect it's just correct right okay everybody everybody understands that It's just out of sequence. Okay, I'd like to call the roll.

Councilor Halliburton.

Aye.

Councilor Cavan.

Yes.

Councilor Arnold. Yes. Councilor Oropesa.

Yes.

Councilor Corn. Yes. Councilor Johnson. Yes. Councilor Corn. I'm so sorry. Councilor Halverson.

Yes.

Councilor Gatz. Yes. Council Member Wood.

Council Member Wood. Yes. Council Member Wood. Yes. Council Member Wood. Yes. Council Member Wood. Yes. Council Member Wood. Yes. Council Member Wood. Yes. Council Member Wood. Yes. Council Member Wood. so we should be ready for this one uh this uh item 21 would recommend to the city council the ratification of adoption of the procurement policy okay and uh we have counselor cabin thank you mr mayor i'll make a motion to the city

an adoption of the procurement policy for the city of Roswell. And you're standing out here as you speak right now. And I think that we have, Tony's going to speak to us, but I don't speak also. So that's my motion. Second. Second. Okay.

21.

On a motion by.

It was a second by Arnold Arnold. Sorry, thank you. OK.

um mr tommy would you care to explain the procurement good evening mr mayor council members excuse my voice it's a little bit worse right now but um agenda item number 21 is to recommend the city council the ratification adoption of the procurement policy um it actually should say purchasing policy there not procurement policy And in your packet, your original packet, you were given the original document that didn't have the red line changes in there that were from legal. What you were just handed out now was the changes with those red line versions in there. So there were some changes on the amounts in there that were done in legal. And you guys should have those now. Give you a second to look at that real quick.

OK. We might be missing. Well, maybe not. I don't know if we're missing a page or a sentence. OK. Is there anyone in the audience here speaking for or against? Oh, it's not. Well, that's right. Okay. Ms. Tony, do you have anything you'd like to enlighten us on?

No, just that the special audit required us to have a more robust policy in place for purchasing and this is to accomplish that so that we mark off one of those audit findings that we had in the special audit. I know there is some other table items in finance right now regarding the ordinance on this. But this is just the policy for it right now. If you have any questions on this, I can answer those, and I also have Judy here as well if you have any questions for her.

Okay. Are there any questions? Council?

I believe when we talked about this, you go to page 4. Requiring required by approval part of the award to the value of the contract exceeds 125,000. we did not get clarification and. That could be in conflict. It may not be in conflict. And I think what that needs to read to the effect of the value of the contract is within the. stated ordinances correct no dollar amount should be put in there because that has not been finalized correct so whatever that wording needs to be i'm looking at the legal to get that wording proper and that's what we talked about i believe they were going to change it to um as stated in the ordinance or something to that effect that's what i thought we talked about and there was never a dollar amount As stated in the ordinance would replace exceeding everything else on it, exceeding the way I see it, up through the end of the line.

And so you can just replace all the colored uh stuff in our paper and in the black and just replace that with that statement you stated in the ordinance in current city ordinance in current okay mayor council if i have mine this is you know the josh city attorney um i'm hoping you can hear me okay if the

You can, of course, certainly make that motion if you want, and there's no objection to that. But as a matter of law, the policy is going to defer to whatever ordinance gets passed. So whatever the numbers, the ordinance will be, by operation of law, amended in the policy. And the policy will just follow whatever the law that gets passed eventually.

Mr. Mayor? Yes. Josh, you should state that. If that's what you're saying the law is, then this procedure should probably state the way you're saying it, which is what you said.

I thought that's what we talked about at the legal committee.

If anyone was there to correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what this thing should say. If you're saying no matter what the dollar amount is, then let's get the document right.

The only issue with that is the council, when it sees the ordinance, can amend that dollar amount at any time. And so if you want to have that dollar amount amended to match what we think the ordinance is going to feed, that's fine. But then if you change the ordinance, then that's not going to change. That's all I'm saying.

Well, what I said was whatever the verbiage would be, whatever the current city ordinance is, no dollar amount. Because again, you're right. You can change it any time at whatever council decides, five years from now, 10 years from now. And that will keep this document in line with that.

and that's all i'm saying so i that's my uh recommendation and that's my motion to change that that follows to the side of the current city ordinance and as long as what he is saying whatever the current city ordinances would be exactly whatever we adopt is the ordinance whatever amount will this whole policy will follow That's right. I mean, that's what I see. So, yeah. So I think, I don't know if there's, we still have to come up and come up with our ordinance. And that will set the policy to whatever this does. So this will upgrade our procurement process, but it will upgrade it to whatever extent is proposed in the ordinance.

and passed by the council okay that's right yes councilor or president thank you mr mayor just uh some other clarification uh do we currently have an ordinance that establishes a certain amount or do we have to come up with one

Um, I believe in the ordinance, it doesn't have a specific amount in there right now.

So, councilor, this in there should have currently currently there is not enough because that was the way the former mayor and former city manager. So you don't have the current amount right now to some manager could spend that. Well, unfortunately, we have a city manager currently that is very conservative with our taxpayer dollars. So until we do this, we really don't have a very good place.

Can you speak into your mic, please?

Oh, I'm sorry. So currently, we don't have anything in place. And I think that's one of the things that was part of the finding. And that's why we're going through this right now, to actually set that in place, that marker. And Judy, I mean, you've looked at this at the special audit and as the internal auditor. I'm sure you've looked at this, but I don't think that currently there is an outfit that is set in stone for the city management.

I have the municipal code sections here. And I believe that the only number threshold, amount threshold is in regards to change orders. And so I believe that that ordinance or that the city manager does not have a limit in regards to negotiating of contracts. But Josh, if you

Can I, ma'am, please? Yeah, go ahead. I, you know, I'm reading, and of course I'm going off our book here, but this would be section number 3A, the special note, where it says, well, on ours it would be page 240, on ours. That's it here. Yeah, in the book. But it states, you know, budget adjustments or change orders. The treasurer can approve the $10,000 and then the city man can do up to $60,000. And anything above that should be approved by the governing body. I mean, that's kind of the change order. He said that he didn't have a limit, but I believe there is a limit on that.

So it would be on page seven?

Page seven on the handout? I think so.

And then it would be initiating a purchase order, a purchase PO request, a note, right under a note. Okay.

It even says any adjustment between funds must be approved by the governing body. And I'm assuming, correct me if I'm wrong. Well, that's a DFA thing.

Well, any budget adjustment between funds has to be approved by the governing body per resolution from DFA.

That's right. But if it's in a budgeted line item, that only applies if you're moving from one budgeted line item to another.

If you're moving it from fund to fund. So if you're moving something from parks to streets i would have to come back to you for the budget resolution on that but if you're moving a line item within their operational budget they can do that um but you guys wanted some protocols in place on limits on how much they can do so as long as you stayed in the same department If you stay within the same department and you're moving it from one item to another line, that's perfectly fine to do per DFA rules. But you guys wanted us to report to you on that. So there was some limits in there put in there in place. So you would have the treasurer approve a certain limit, then the city manager would approve a certain limit.

And those are totally different than PO. So that's a budget line item adjustment.

That's not a PO. So 60,000 is for small purchases per the procurement code.

sometimes sometimes you're covering it because they don't have enough funds and they have invoices coming in because they may have under budgeted something could possibly yes so mr. Marin and counselors on that note on page seven is supposed to be

to basically shore up that we don't have individuals that, if there's, actually create the ability to purchase items then without the proper chain of approval. If you go to page 11 on item C, procurements exceeding 60,000, see item one it says purchases must be approved in the current budget through the formal budget process that includes city council approval purchases not approved in the current budget require approval by the city council prior to awarding a bid or proposal to a potential vendor and so that budget note actually helps eliminate any game playing with that line that says purchase is not approved in the current budget we don't want somebody making transfers without the transparency of the counselors yeah this is a check and a ballot that's correct right so this this protects the council from anybody putting anything to bid or purchasing anything it has not been approved by them correct right that's item 11 okay and then i do believe in this the secondary part of this then is in that line that counselor helderbrand was recommending to change because so you go from page 11 that says you know purchase a purchase is not approved in the current budget then require approval by the city council prior to awarding. And then you would turn to page 14 on item four where there is that particular contractual threshold that is given to the city manager to be able to then use that following all of the procurement code, then they would follow item four. have I I don't think there's there's any issue I mean I'm not an attorney but I don't think there's any issue by saying you know following the ordinance the stated value in the ordinance however though if there's no value in in the ordinance then How does that work?

That's interesting because for the last four years, we've been operating on a $60,000 financial when no one has said that's not the ordinance. We've been approving items.

I think that was the old purchasing policy that was in place.

But we've been approving items over $60,000.

Yes, you've been approving everything over $60,000, even if it was in the budget or not.

Right. And no one said that wasn't in the ordinance. So we've been operating as if it was in the ordinance.

Well, it was in the purchasing policy, so we had to abide by that purchasing policy at the time.

Unless we make our income.

Unless we make it. Unless you change it.

And wasn't that just that one page? Yeah. It was like a one-page threshold that was... I don't know if that was actually then an ordinance or a policy. I believe it's a null policy. I'd have to go back and look.

I've never seen it.

Yeah, it's like in 2017 or something. And it's like a one page that was, and I don't remember who the city manager was at the time. The point is, that we absolutely need to have a purchasing policy how can we have run a city without a policy and and giving the the guidance to the treasurer as well as something to teach and train the employees on on the purchasing as well as providing ethics section as well as is there disciplinary that I think that there's actually a disciplinary section in there as well then that if there are violations you have something to hold your employees with to train them to teach them and to allow your treasure and your see your your certified purchasing officer to have some policy behind their their job duties but you know if there's not a any kind of legal reasoning on why that we couldn't put then I'll remove my motion with the knowledge that I've received and we never had an ordinance

if you don't mind, Mr. Mayor, because now I've found that information, new information.

So I'll leave the $125,000 in there and we'll see what happens with it, prepare a code.

So, all right.

I'll remove my motion. Well, we have to... If there's never a second, we just made the motion and the discussion started.

Ms. Alverson's seconded it.

She's seconded it.

and then so if we remove this and we just sometime when we do another ordinance

And that would change this $125,000?

If you change that amount in the ordinance, yes. Because come back and revise this.

My apology, Josh. I didn't know that that was not in the ordinance.

So thank you. Okay, Councilor Johnson. So essentially what we've been operating in the past was policy of the state, right?

Yes.

Which is parallel to this, and we've been actually rolling pretty good. We wanted to tweak it a little bit for, I think, in the name of efficiency. I think that was, or, I mean, I'm not sure why we didn't, efficiency, to make it more.

Efficiency and then have a more robust policy in place as well, because we don't really have one.

Okay. Yeah, okay. I mean, within the more robust in regards to the audit findings. Yes. And it addresses a lot of things.

I would just say that in addition to efficiency, it's not all about efficiency, but there's also a value to purchasing policy that as Ms. Schroeder stated, gives people everything that they need to know. And once you have that if people don't follow it you have the sort of notice um that they should be following it and you have a much more possibility to you know discipline if that be not necessary or you know compel people to follow the policy and drive it along okay councilor

Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

I guess for my own understanding, this $125,000 merchant and item report, is that in relation to money already budgeted, or is that in relation to the new expenditures?

Yes, it is in relation to already budgeted items. If it's not budgeted, it has to go to the council, period.

Full stop. See, my problem becomes that if it's in the budget to buy 10 police cars, I mean, we can't even buy two police cars at their current cost without coming back to the council to do that. and everything is in the budget everything's there and you have to stop everything if you get a bid for 10 police cars or two police cars if you get two you have to go back to the council and the council has to approve that individual budget which means that if the bid's only open for 30 days there's a good chance it won't be moved voted on in time to do it that's why this And it's in the budget. This says all bids and requests for proposals, all bids. And that means we can't even buy, if we do this part here with $125,000, we can't even buy two police cars on a contract unless we go back and have a meeting and say it's okay to do it. Am I not?

Mayor, if I may, police cars are bought under price agreement. So that wouldn't even pertain to this. Vice agreement, it would just, you would purchase them.

Any other function, any other function, any RFP or any, you know, so they would have to come back and to get approval from the council, if it was an RFP or a bid that we all already had in the budget to do something that was within the money, You have to come back to the council. The council has to authorize it. I think that doesn't let the city manager manage. It tells him everything has to come back to him, to the council, every time, no matter what, if it's over $125,000. If it's in the budget and we do it, let the city manager manage the business daily of the city. This type of government that we have is a weak mayor, weak council formed government. And that's the way it's designed to let the city manager manage it. So we don't have it. Councilors tell them who to appoint or who to approve. Who to be the dog catcher, who to be the police chief. We don't have all that stuff or the policeman. We don't have that. No one interferes with the city manager's management of the elective. Officials, including me. I mean, that's why I think if it's in the budget and our finance committee that has it in the budget, then you let the city manager run the city and not require to go back to the council every time you spend over $125,000. But I think that's what this does. Yes.

Okay, that's a question for another day. Because that has been a table at the Finance Committee, and we hear you loud and clear. But that is an issue for another discussion.

So therefore, I'd like to call for a question.

No, you can't.

I don't think they're going to do that. I'm just telling you, that's going to be another discussion. on the ordinance that we have. That's what that's all about. So that will be heard at a later date. If that number's different than that, this will change to whatever that number is agreed upon at all of that ordinance. I'm just trying to enlighten you with what the process of the council has gone through to come up with this. But I also would say that this... I'm not trying to argue with you, Mayor. I'm just trying to point out the process that we've gone through. It will come back to this full council.

I understand that. But now I'm also stating that this item was brought back to us from the legal committee by Council Halverson, I believe, brought it back. And they brought it to us. The bill that is in the finance committee is a different item, as I recall, because this came back to us as Council lady, how was it brought? I think, isn't that right? Who was it that brought it back the other day from? Oh, she brought it back. And I'm just saying, this is a, the bill you have in finance is different than this piece of legislation. It is different because you put the other one in finance, she brought this back up, which is her right to bring that back up in legal? Yes, you brought it back up. And so this is a different item before us right now than what you have in finance.

Well, Mayor, we're just talking about contracts. That's all we're talking about. So why don't we get back to what the city manager said. All we're talking about is are we leaving $125,000 in for contracts, even though it's legal? We didn't talk about that. We changed the number to 215, 125 on a different stuff. That's the stuff. All we're talking about right now, it was, are we going to meet in the 125? Are we going to take it out so we can go home with this permit? You got this purchase and agree. That's all we talk about is a purchase, a more meaty purchasing agreement. Is that what we're talking about? Am I wrong with Mr. Mayor? Yes. Councilor Caddy.

Councilor Moore.

So in legal, we looked at both the documents, OK? But my point is that we had what's before you that we've said that this is the policy, per se. The other one is one of the two numbers that what the mayor's talking about and what the councilor, your friend, is talking about. So those two documents right now, the one that we proposed with the numbers from people is implying it's on the table as well as the original document that was proposed both of those are sitting on the table in front of us so those still have to be passed before us probably i hope i hope it comes before us comes before you next my city council So when the numbers change in finance, it's going to come back. Whatever's going to change when we go to finance, whatever's going to change when we finish that, it's going to fix this. This is just a

That's correct.

Yes, that's correct. This is a purchasing policy and then the ordinance that is tabled in finance can change the overarching numbers of this policy because the ordinance supersedes and is overarching of policy. But this allows the management to be able to utilize, to train, to follow, and to conduct their business.

Can we call for a question now? No.

Just to point this out, this is all part of item 7. It starts on page 12. And so it's not just contracts. It's any procurements, evaluations, or awards. It's not just contracts. It's any of those things that are out there. Any procurements, anything you buy has to be this way if it's over $125,000.

Until the finance committee reviews the ordinance. But of course, the purchasing policy absolutely has to follow, at a minimum, the state purchasing

code, procurement code.

But it also includes guidance in regards to credit card usage. That's also part of this policy. So again, it's really for the treasurer and the certified purchasing officer to use in their daily business. The governance part of it comes when the ordinance comes off the table in finance.

Correct? This should give us a real good way to stop the problems we have. That's correct. You break a tooth that costs $500 off a brand new back of the bucket that you can't pay for until next July, which is exactly what happened with us because the tooth cost $500 and nobody makes you a purchase order to get it. And so Branded back on your $25,000 bucket for $500 too. I mean, that's exactly where we were this year. Okay. Okay. All right. So we have a call from the question. Okay. So motion by. I'm going to call the question now. All those in favor on the question, call the roll. I hear it. Councilor Hildebrandt? Aye.

Councilor Cavan? Yes. Councilor Arnold? Yes. Councilor Obesa?

Yes.

Councilor Moore? Yes. Councilor Johnson?

Yes.

Councilor Halverson? Yes. Councilor Gass?

Yes.

Councilor Monroe?

Yes. Okay, it's real close.

I just want to know when I get my V card.

I'm sorry you can't ask another question. On item 21. the ratifications of the procurement policy. Call the roll, ma'am.

Councilor Hallibrandt?

Yes.

Councilor Kess?

Yes.

Councilor Arnold? Yes. Councilor Orovesa?

No.

Councilor Moore? Yes. Councilor Johnson?

Yes.

Councilor Halverson? Yes. Councilor Gass?

Yes.

Councilor Monopole?

No. I vote for 7, the affirmative, and 2 in the negative. The 21 is doing pass. Okay.

Thank you.

Now I can ask you to come down and get my P card.

We'll have to order it for you.

Thank you. Because it says elected officials get P cards. Actually, we have an authority to approve.

Mr. Mayor, can I say that's it?

I wouldn't either.

I don't even know what we have. No, it doesn't.

I'd like to make a motion to approve and allocate $1.85 million to the fiscal year 2022 final budget for site-grading surface level drainage for Ebrick stormwater from within the air sac.

Second. Okay, for item 22. Okay, item 22, the approval to allocate up to $1,850,000 this year for the purpose of site drainage servicing and leveling and drainage and improvements at the, to redirect the stormwater flow at the Roblox Okay, we have a motion by Councillor Gass and a second by Councillor Cavan. Yes, sir. Cavan. Okay. Elrond, would you like to go ahead?

Yes, thank you, Mr. Mayor and Councilmembers. At the Finance Committee, the question of what is brought up We talked about the financing and the numbers during that time and where the funds were coming from, but the question was brought up, what exactly did this mean in quantities and production? So you've got a handout because if you go to the slide. So if you go to the slide, it would be very difficult to read, so your handout is exactly what's on the screen there, talking about the quantities of project in the process to get this done. There's several swales. that have to be redirected and piping that has to go in them to try to control some of the storm runoff, which is what this is meant to do. There's a great deal of detail. Back in May of this year, the engineers did the survey work, which improved all that. And they did survey work, and then the proposals that came in came against that survey work, which was quite detailed. And that's where these quantities came from on the engineering estimates. for these drainage improvements. And then you have mobilization, and on the airport you have to create a safety plan as well that has to be produced before work can start. So additional things that are required by the FAA to happen on the airport unfortunately do increase the pricing on some of these things. But this includes filling those swales, redirecting the water to a singular location from three separate swales, And then the asphalt work that's required and the piping that's required to do so. And I'm happy to answer any questions.

Mr. Mayor, we have a doubt or command.

Thank you, Mr. Mayor. As Bob, you see a lot of this, but I know one of the things that was being asked about in finance. I mean, is there some type of testament on the cost of this project?

Yes, that's the $1,850,000.

There's really not anything that's showing us any costs on here. Oh, on the abstract? On the abstract, there's no dollar amounts or anything.

You don't have anything for unit price or anything else?

Oh, the unit price? Actually, I have a copy here I can make for you. I probably, yeah, I saw the $1,800,500 on the abstract, but if you want the detailed price, I do have that here as well.

So can you just tell us what the figure is? Oh, sure.

So the pricing goes down. We have mobilization at $105,944. The safety and security plan that has to be prepared and approved, $52,972. Pollution and erosion control, $15,892. Saw cutting existing pavement surfaces. That was my line. Four. the saw cutting was 52 972 the excavation is 31 783 pavement surface pulverized and processed in place to a six inch thickness was 185 405 then we have uh concrete piping we had to switch the piping on this from the original engineering because availability of piping. So to go to concrete piping, transition and coupler is $22,249. Custom 9 plus drainage basin including locking, grate and inlet was $5,297. Existing drop and then includes existing drop inlet. Re-grating including cut, fill and surface and shaping 105, 944. And then a base course, a 4-inch base course is 428, 880. And then chip ceiling after that is 245, 073. Then they have to go back and do the apron marking. That's 15,892. And then construction staking and globalization, 52,972. So that brings us to 148, 542. And then one last item, the quality control and control testing and everything is $37,080. So what is the total? $1,850,000. Prior to the GRT. And then GRT on top of that. GRT is $147,402.03. What is the total? $147,402.03. And what was the subtotal prior to GRT? one hundred and eight fifty uh the full total is one million nine twenty nine six hundred and three cents right and there's crack filling involved cleaning sweeping debris thank you mr so a couple of questions uh

Desert West is not mobile?

Yes, sir.

So, $105,000 in mobilization? Yes. Is this a price agreement? Pardon? Was this a price agreement?

No, we actually had three bids on this project. Three bids? Yes, sir. Three bids? Okay. So it was done by... We had bids from constructors, J&H, and Desert West.

Okay. So... Where are they mobilizing from? The airport.

Well, they have equipment all over, so they do work all over the state.

Thank you. Council? Tony?

We just passed this purchasing process or procedure. We need to double check to make sure the GRT is correct on this building because some of these items are

exempt from grg and i'm not sure when miss thompson gives the grg number that that's all correct correct and they show uh we look at the percentage they show on there they show 8.2708 Yes.

Yeah, that was one of the conditions

Because we are a very scary 70 days away.

So when's their start date?

Their start date is with your approval.

So they already got equipment sitting out there?

They have some equipment sitting out on another project they're working on, but not on the equipment for this work.

So they got equipment working after being in charge hundreds, some thousand hours from today? And it's- To move it from one portion of the area?

Well, all they're doing right now is the micro ceiling.

Start date would not be until the PO's cut.

And just, I'm not trying to pick apart the mobilization part, but I do business with these guys. All companies, whether they're in Albuquerque, wherever their location is, it's from there to the work site.

On the constructor's bid, the mobilization was $120,000. They're in Carlsbad. And looking for the J&H. They're in Albuquerque.

They have a facility here, but they're out of work. That's just their game they play. Mobilization doesn't rest, it's really right here. And if there's a line item, and because this isn't a price agreement, it doesn't matter. Am I right?

I don't think it doesn't matter.

It's still about price agreement.

So whatever the charge, then there's a little bit better. Okay, now for gas. The mobilization really is sort of relevant having a part of a highway construction firm from media to first 12 miles out of Roswell. Because we're here, mobilization shouldn't have been so much, but because we had $350,000 payrolls for a month before we got paid by the state, we took money out of anything, drop in, let's say, hot mix, we might take $600,000 or a million dollars out of their footage mobilization because once you've started the job, your first pay estimate, you get that. So they're just asking for money up front to cover their costs in case they get paid more than one estimate. And my other question was, they'll be done by the air races, and you answered that. That's good. So that doesn't make them crooked by doing that? It doesn't make them crooked. It just means they're getting paid up front. They're getting paid less for their base course or objects. Their total price is the same either way. They could have put $5,000 in there, but if they get paid more than one payment, they want that money up front because they've got to cover their payroll costs. But in any event, however they labeled it in there, Yeah, they're getting the job done. That's right. For less money than anybody else. That's right. So we're splitting it. We're splitting it. Tomorrow. Okay. Any further comments? Anyone here speak against this? Anyone care to speak against it? Anyone care to speak for or against it? I'm sorry, I should have said for or against it. Okay, seeing none. Any further questions from the council? Voice vote. Are you sure? OK, we'll try a voice vote. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Oh, I think it was close.

Thank you, counsel. We'll call that 9-0.

OK.

uh i'd like to make a motion on the agenda item 23 resolution 26-37 adopt 2026 comprehensive master plan as the official planning guide to replace the 2016 conference and master plan for the city of new mexico okay

So, yes ma'am, will you care to tell us about the master plan and why it took you so long to do it, 10 years?

Good evening, Mayor, Councillor Cavan, members of the City Council. Here we are, a year-long process is completed and we are here for you to vote on resolution 26-37 to adopt the 2026 comprehensive master plan as the official planning guide for the city of Roswell to replace the 2016 comprehensive master plan. This is the policy document that guides the city's growth and land use development. Able City facilitated a year-long public input process with public meetings, open studio charrette, online surveys, steering committee, and focus groups. And over 200 citizens participated in that public input process. Quantum consultants contributed engineering and infrastructure components, including flood control concepts. And Victoria Chavez with Able City, the El Paso office and Viviana Fernandez are here this evening. This planning document went not only to one committee, but to two committees. On April 20th, the infrastructure committee recommended approval. On April 23rd, the legal committee tabled the document and requested a workshop with the consultant, Able City. On June 5th, the city council held that workshop and Victoria Chavez facilitated that meeting. And on June 25th, the legal committee recommended approval of the plan. And here we are. If you'd like to hear from Victoria, she's here. But you may proceed with voting on the resolution 26-37 to adopt the comprehensive master plan.

Is there anyone in the audience who would care to speak on this item, number 26-37, adopting the comprehensive master plan solution? Is there anyone in the audience who would care to speak? for or against this? Is there anyone in the audience here speaking for or against this? Okay, seeing none, questions from members of the council? Council? Go ahead. Council lady.

Okay, so the word comprehensive, this does mean that, and when you think about it, so that each of the areas bring their own, like, say, finding a zone to drop what they needed in. HR brought what they needed, and if it's just, or y'all just found where the, or as a group of people just put their input in and decided what needs to be done, not different groups or... Mr. Mayor, Councilor Moore, this is the Conference of Master Plan for Land Use Planning.

So this guides the development of the city. So where housing is going to go and what kind of housing is going to needs to be created. It's an assessment of our current state in terms of land use, economic development, transportation, housing. It's an overarching plan. So that doesn't mean that smaller plans, it means that smaller plans can be done or other types of plans like transportation plans. We've already done a plan for bicycle, pedestrian, and safe streets for all, and those kinds of things. The master plan is the overarching plan that guides the planning for all the other plans, whether it be transportation, economic development, housing, small area plans, neighborhood plans, infrastructure. More of the land part.

I didn't build the waterfront. That's why we didn't do that. It's more of the land part and not everything that's Correct. It's not administration.

It does include parks. It does include parks and recreation as a component of the plan. But that's a land use. It's not so much administrative. It provides goals and objectives for land use types of planning processes.

And the parks and recreation helped put their piece into this

On our steering committee, we had input from various entities. We've asked staff to come to the charrette so that they could be in the focus groups. Yes, ma'am.

Okay, Councilor Gage, when we had the workshop, we suggested many changes for those

Yes, not all changes were that were requested was made, but majority were so the main 1 was the annexation map. Based on your guys's comments, they're updating the lodgers graph. It was a little bit off. So we were able to fix those numbers. The infrastructure and utilities department was able to provide some comments of corrections on some aspects that we brought into it, so we made updates on there. And then some goals, refining on some of the goals and action items. What about the population? So for that one, we decided not to change it just because we needed more of a basis to kind of support a bigger growth. And I wasn't too keen on the, I agree that you guys are growing and providing the two options of optimistic and a baseline of population growth kind of meeting in the middle and not, it may not be as aggressive as you were mentioning. I just couldn't find the data that could support it.

significantly so that was the main reason why we decided not to change that the other thing i'd like to have a copy so i can see what we're voting on um we do have it available online but i do agree i completely understand we could have provided that this week i moved offices and i don't have internet haven't had it for a week got it so i couldn't do it so but i think we should have been given it so we okay next down to cabin uh thank you mr mayor so castle north will be on that workshop because we put that together after

We made sure to invite the corporate heads to be there for that workshop if they had any questions. I think they had to get it put to their satisfaction. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. OK. Are there any further questions?

Seeing none, OK. On a motion by Councilor Cadman, seconded by Councilor Arnold, a motion to adopt Resolution 26-37, adopt the Comprehensive Master Plan as the Official Planning Guide to replace the 2016 Master Plan for the City of Roswell. And on a motion by Councilor Cadman, seconded by Councilor Arnold, Is the clerk's call roll?

Councillor Calderon?

Aye.

Councillor Cavan?

Yes.

Councillor Arnold? Yes. Councillor Oropesa?

Yes.

Councillor Moore?

No.

Councillor Johnson?

Yes.

Councillor Halverson? Yes. Councillor Gass?

No.

Councillor Marrero?

Yes. I go to 7, Jennifer, a resolution number 26-37 in the document Stopping the 2020 comprehensive master plan for the city around to replace the 2016 master plan has been adopted. Actually go to item 24. Yes.

Do we have anything that shows

what the old funds were. It's getting past that right now, sir.

The reason for this is, as you know, our court fees

And we're having a lot of problems with the traffic contractions and the fines haven't been adjusted. Do you know how long it's been since we've adjusted the fines?

No, ma'am, I don't. According to the abstract, it's been inadvertently omitted.

It's been a long time.

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You know, this is to go ahead and advertise this, but I would just, you know, there's some things happening in town that I think need to be addressed. And we've had individuals who will, in the last festival we just had, we had individuals with your knees in a cup and threw them on people in the stores. And there is nothing that happens to them because they have, maybe they are challenged or they have some issues with competencies. But at some point in time, something needs to be done for individuals who do things like that to put them in a facility. I know these are traffic, but I'm just saying. We all know right now when you talk about speeding and stuff is one thing. But you know, we also know that it's a revolving door for homeless people who do all kinds of things in merchants. We've had them come in here time and time again about whether they're dressing Out in the distance, playing open in front of somebody's store with their kids in it. We've had this stuff, and we need them. There needs to be some level of action if someone has true issues so that they don't endanger the public. And yet, just like in the state, we'll continue to not address it. And I'm sorry, but I think if they do something like that, which is a... is an act that i think is endangerment just like shooting at someone i mean you don't know what kind of germs they have and uh so i'm just saying those should be considered in the same in the same line and i don't think we do that i'm not after anybody with challenged individuals i'm just saying if their activities are totally contrary to the public health of the people and are truly a violation of the other people's rights, then I think that we should look at making sure that if they should be in a public situation, that we need to find something to do with it. So, yes. Now, Arnold, and then Board and then Karen. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

While we are talking about traffic signs, I do want to actually validate what you're saying and how imperative it is that we actually do look at it. I also want to say that some great strides have been made in addressing those very issues with creating funding from a state level for pretrial diversion that actually leads to AOT, which is actually mental health services. I'm just saying that because everything you're talking about is a large conversation that is happening in the southeastern region. So these plans are awesome because we are having serious issues with people speeding and dying. And so on both notes, I want to say that great strides are actually being taken in Chavez County, Eddy County, and Lee County. And so I'm very excited about a lot of the movement. So that might take two years. for the other aspect of it, but there is strikes being made on all of this. So thank you so much for the time, Mr. Mack.

OK. So has this been heard by legal?

No.

It started . Because the public city, the governor showed it on the public city first.

That's what it did. That's why they will send it. Is that correct? That's correct. It has not been the legal committee.

Okay, so if you back the legal committee recommended approval 5 to 0 on their making, and then public safety recommended approval 4 to 0 on their June 16.

Okay, so it's already been. So, Mr mayor, let me get real quick.

So, I proposed this deal for. What's up there because I can't remember doctors or something that used to, but it went, it passed for zero in there that we needed to move forward with something, but we wanted it to go to public safety. Okay. I think before we send this to a hearing, that we should table this back to legal and actually make sure that the numbers that we're looking at here for the consequences of this as you're saying okay the more than they are right now because there's a lot of life public safety is at risk here especially we've already had too many fatalities that are involving just five kinds of vehicles okay But it might be out on the street somewhere, or somebody runs over a mailbox out of Washington, going through the golf course, and it sends the correct sign there. So I think that before we put this out here with figures, we need to look at it more closely at what the consequences are for the violation.

General, quick, if I may, there. I think one court will be against this. It wasn't 4-0.

It's probably 5-0 on the label because I was on the offer. That was just to forward it. It wasn't to approve it. Yeah, it was to move it forward. So that would be my motion. I'll send it back to the label. Second.

I'm here with a quick question for the other people that I was going to address. These numbers like the fines, remember how we have in trouble like broken fines, people Paying them and doing that. Well, there's an issue with that. You know, like with the dog thing, we're having issues with the judge wasn't, you know, doing, you know, following through or whatever. Well, he's fine just because the numbers go up. What recourse will, I don't know. That's what I'm saying. Will there be any recourse, you know, because we can track it by this. There's no difference in our. yeah but i don't i don't want to not raise them because oh that wasn't the question it was just to make sure that that we had some yeah i put some more teeth in you know for them to back it up why raise it if the judge ain't gonna back it up yes ma'am both what the judge and that says the prosecution would would do and deal with um i just wanted to reiterate that not only is this dealing with

the elimination of the court fees but the underlying safety concern that has been brought up i think if you if you look at those numbers it's dealing with a lot of the numbers that are raised are dealing with a lot of those safety issues and hopefully that that is one way to help alleviate some of these concerns that we have in the city in regards to to speeding and and those safety concerns that we have

in the memory council with my mind yes this is the josh um i want to reiterate what mr garcia is saying here um this is just the penalty assessment chart for traffic citation it doesn't deal with all of the issues with the city's code and how to handle everything but In light of the, I would say, serious concerns with people driving in truly dangerous ways and causing injury and fatalities, there's a hope by increasing the fines that they will perhaps think differently about it in the future. That's principally one of the main issues here. The secondary issue in the ordinance applied to the penalty assessment chart is the amendment to the reckless driving ordinance. The reckless driving ordinance in the city's adopted UT . Here is the state's statute, which is kind of awkwardly drafted. And this fixes that problem by establishing clear and substantial penalties for persons that drive in a way that risks people, people's profits or lives.

So reckless driving every person.

first conviction not less than five days in jail and more than 30 that is correct the with the status statute that is drafted is it says a minimum of five days in jail but then it says halfway through the statute or a $100 fine, and judges struggle to understand what that means because it's kind of ambiguous. It sounds like it's a minimum penalty of incarceration, but it says, or you can just do a $100 fine. And the purpose here is to remove that ambiguity and make it so that if you are driving in a reckless manner in Roswell, The judge has the authority to sentence you to jail without that ambiguity. And in fact, it becomes a minimum penalty. You are going to be subject to incarceration for five days upon your first conviction. The facts depended. And without that sort of, well, we're just going to have a fun situation. I don't know if this solves all of the problems that are not intended there. It's the first effort to get Roswell's farm, which haven't been managed in a long, long time. Some of the ones that are truly pretty well. And the effort here is primarily to increase supplements substantially in areas of public safety and less so for, you know, jaywalking and window tint and other things that don't really implicate the safety of people and their property in the city.

Okay. Can I ask for more or do you have any questions? No. Okay. Not for gas? Not for gas. Not for gas? I think we should go back. I can't find running a red light out here, but that needs to be out here and it needs to be a significant fine because every, I mean, people die from that or at least have cars that are totaled or whatever, but running a red light should be one of your highest fines and it's a terrible problem in Rossville. unless that's covered under reckless driving but that's I mean I've sat at college in Maine stopped at a red light and had seven cars in the right lane pass me through the red light in the last month I counted seven on a red light and I'd already stopped I mean it's terrible I think it's on line seven

stop lamp signal. No, I'm sorry. Number eight, turning and stopping movements and required signals. Where is it? Line eight. And that's only a $50 fine?

Well, there's a void traffic control device on line 15.

Line where? There's a void traffic control device. I don't think there's one on the line.

I think it's good to go back to legal, but Runny Ridley.

If it does go back to legal, I recommend, I think, Josh, is there a place in there about riding the little, um, mopeds and stuff on the road? Dirt bikes?

Can I ask about that? So driving on mopeds and other... Mini bikes. Mini bikes, yeah. Scooters. Those are, um, it's a little more complicated in exchanging the funds um and those are going to be forthcoming uh strong with a few other changes but it requires a little bit more consideration of where the state law is prior to um creating an ordinance to present the challenge okay well you can see what you can do to include what counselor gas talking about

Mr. Mayor.

Councilor Preston. Call for a point of order, please.

I thought the motion was on the, to send it back to legal instead of discussing the order. That's correct.

That's correct. Okay.

And who had the motion to go back to legal? Councilor Cavanaugh. Councilor Cavanaugh. I second it. I'm sorry. Motion to send back to legal Councilor Cavanaugh. The second by.

All right.

Any further discussion? All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? By vote of 9, the program is done and ended. Thanks, legal. Thank you, counsel. The ordinance on zoning case consider adopting approach ordinance 26-009 to annex 9.56 acres in the municipal boundary to be consolidated with 409 East Bradshaw Road. Zone I-1 light industrial for Xcel Energy to build a service center and lay down yard.

and the legal summary is below so we haven't uh down through thank you mr mayor i'm willing to be uh consider adopting the purported proposal for this 26-0 line as you explained okay yes ma'am

Mr. Mayor, Council Members, this is Ordinance 26-09, it's Zoning Case Annex 26-0084. On behalf of property owner Southwestern Public Service Company, applicant and petitioner Kyle Brady, the Vice President of Furman Land Surveyors, submitted a voluntary petition for annexation of a 9.56 acre tract, tract 1B of SPS summary review plat. And that's the application. The proposed service center is for the Southwest Public Service slash Xcel Energy and the areas compatible with surrounding light industrial uses. This is located on East Brasher Road, the property in front of it or north of the property under consideration is a 10 acre tract that was annexed in 2024. Yeah, and it was also rezoned to I-1. So this is contiguous to the municipal boundary, and it's surrounded by light industrial uses. Brasher Road is a minor arterial, and to the west is Legendary Services, which is a water truck company for the oil fields, and it is already sold as well. These are just a couple slides showing the area, showing legendary services next to it, probably under consideration from a couple views. And the ordinance is in your packet, as well as the annexation map. the we just passed a new comprehensive plan but under the 26th conference 2016 conference master plan it showed the appropriate land uses industrial and then also this particular parcel is in the annexation map area one As of today's day, the Planning and Zoning Office has received zero written protests, zero inquiries regarding this case. Chavez County Planning and Zoning has provided a letter of no objection to the proposed annexation. On June 9th, 2026, the city of Roswell Planning and Zoning Commission voted 4-0 to recommend approval of Zoning Case Annex 26-00842, City Council. And I guess the public hearing was already held at the Planning and Zoning Commission, so it's come before you for a vote for a final recommendation. I stand for questions. And Mr. Mr. Brady is here as well, if you have any questions of him.

Is 402 East and the container exhibit B, 402 East Braxford, is that owned by Excel? Yes, it is. And so they're just adding another 9.68 to that property? Correct.

So they will have, they have 19.56 acres. Once the 9.56 acre track is annexed it will be combined and consolidated with a plat with the 10 acre front piece and then it will go back to planning and zoning for rezoning to light industrial so that's just that this property is just east of the frito light

It's two doors down.

Two doors down from . Correct. Yes, sir.

All right.

Good question. Yes, are there other utilities and water sewers already there?

There are. That's on exhibit B of the staff summary sewer and water on the north side of .

Okay, is there any further discussion? Anyone in the audience here to speak for or against?

Anyone in the audience speak for or against?

anyone else who just wants to sit there and came here to stay all night and not say anything anyone else care to speak for again okay just saying that what is is there any further discussion with the council um on a motion we have a motion before us by council herald branch second by counselor to approve ordinance number 2609 is the only case uh case number 26-0084 annex city consider adopting ordinance 2609 plan x 9.56 acres into the municipal valley at 402 east rasher in zone i one light industrial for xcel energy to build and Build a service center and lay down yard on 402 East Bradford. There's no further discussion on deferred proposal. Or do you want to do a voice vote?

A roll call please.

Okay.

Councillor Hillenbrand.

Aye.

Councillor Keven.

Yes.

Councillor Arnold. Yes. Councillor Otofesa.

Yes.

Councillor Moore. Yes. Councillor Johnson.

Yes.

Councilor Halverson, yes. Councilor Gass, yes.

Councilor McLaughlin, yes. By the vote of 9, it's been approved, the ordinance 2609 zoning case here. Case 26 has a 0084 annex considered and to adopt. The municipal boundaries be changed to 402 each fracture. has been adopted.

Thank you.

Okay. If I drape the face, can all that happen? Okay. Next, we have item 26. This is the whole of our meeting. I don't know where Okay, if we have... Mr. Mayor?

Yes.

Mr. Mayor, I move that we go to the closed session presumptive NMSA 1978 10-15-1 H2 to discuss loaded personnel matters regarding city manager NMSA 1978 10-15-1 H5 to discuss Attorney-client privilege communication relating to union negotiation in which the city is or may become a participant and pursuant to the NMS in 1978 10-15-187 to discuss attorney-client privilege pertaining to threatened or pending litigation in which the city of Roswell is or may become a participant. Second.

Okay. Okay. Discussion? Seeing none. Okay. If you'd like to call the roll to go into closed session.

Councillor Hildenbrand?

Aye.

Councillor Cabbage?

Yes.

Councillor Arnold? Yes. Councillor Otovesa?

Yes.

Councillor Moore? Yes. Councillor Johnson?

Yes.

Councilor Halverson? Yes. Councilor Gass?

Yes.

Councilor Mudderfield?

Yes. Okay, by the vote of nine, affirmative, none negative. We're going to go into closed session. We will be out. Okay.

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