City Council - Regular Meeting

And uh call to order with uh Councilman Rowdy being absent. Councilman Hancock, Councilman Ma Goodri, Boozenbark and Allen all here and present. Missing today will be Josh. So Ryan will be representing Josh for the manager's report. And with that, if uh Councilman Goodri will offer us with an opening prayer, we'll follow that up with a pledge of allegiance by Chip Watkins. Our father in heaven, we're grateful to thee, the opportunity we have to be um residents of Roosevelt City for the good place that it is and the good people that surround us. We ask they as we meet this day that we will be conscientious of the needs of our city and those we represent but we will do what is in their best interest and have good discussions on what will best guide our actions. We pray father for the guidance in all that we do and this we pray for in the name of our savior Jesus Christ. Amen. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you. Um, one thing that was not on the agenda, uh, was the public comment period. And I'm going to open it up for the public comment period. If anyone would like to step up or you're like the only one today, so we all look at you. So, okay. Seeing that there isn't any, I will move on and let's go to the approval of business with our previous minutes. Um, I would move we approve. I didn't say anything.

I'll second that. Okay. We have a a motion and a second to approve the previous minutes. All in favor? Any opposed? All right. and the expenditures and financial sorry one on there too it okay I haven't signed yet I didn't you if you want you probably go on and come back to that one or do you want to wait yeah I can come back to that one, I believe.

Then that'll give you all a little bit of time to review it if needed and sign. So, is there anything out of the ordinary on the expenses? One of the big ones on there is that one for collab. That's our first big one for the gun range. It says Kob. Is it supposed to be collab? It's collab. Yeah. You might want to just fix the Make sure we get it right on the check. Yeah. That's the big thing. It just says page. That's funny. I I think I I would just move to approve. I think I don't see anything that was out of the ordinary there.

Let me Let me I'll let Mo sign that before we That's fine. Before we approve it. And the other one too. I know. I know. I hit 40, I start wearing glasses.

All right, coming back to point of order. We do have a motion on the table to approve the U expenditure and financial review. I'll second. I do have a second. And uh any further discussion? All in favor? Any opposed?

Approved. Okay, let's move down to our very first discussion item, which is our public hearing and a budget reopen. And I this would have normally been by Zeke, but Ryan, you want to touch on that? Okay. Sorry, I'm behind the computer right here. So,

um I'll go through these items for this reopen of the budget and a few of them. Um I've got Kirby from public works that'll discuss on on one and then also from the police. So, I'll go through and you should have that list. Yep. The blue one. Okay. Okay. So, the first one is just re it's revenue collected um from the tree from the enchanted forest. That's pretty simple on that one. We're just bringing in the 165 and then paying it out, right?

Correct. Uh the second one, this one's kind of a big one. Um, so in the original budget in the beginning of the year, we had money allocated for um irrigation system at the golf course. They are requesting that we move 90,000 of that over for blowers, gators, and a picker. And all this equipment is kind of dated. I talked to Mike today pretty for quite a while and and a lot of it just needs to be upgraded and to safer standards for their employees to be using. So that's what we're um asking there.

And the money's coming from where? It it was originally allocated for that irrigation system part of it. You know how there was Yeah. I thought that we had that money and it was going to go if it didn't go there, it was going to the golf to the cemeter cemetery. It It was split. It was split. So the golf course. Yeah. But now that we're close to the new budget year, the cemetery will get and the golf course will it'll just get freshened up because we're not going to put in irrigation system in two months. right

or an expansion. Um the next three um doctor if you want to go over that you need a microphone. I think you're all right if you see pretty easy. I need my glasses on. See where you're done.

Yeah. So, we have a homeland security grant which we go to uh the RRPC and we ask for a certain amount of money. We usually get $14,000 or something, but they had some money, this $3,500 that needed to be spent really quickly if we could do it. And so, that's just grant money that we need to add on because we already had put the 14 in. So, we didn't have any allocation for. So that's that's money that's coming to us that we need a place to put it. Where do you where are you looking to put that?

Well, we've already spent it. So wherever we spent it from revenue collected,

it's revenue collected. Yeah. So wherever Zeke wants to end up the other is liquor control. So the liquor control we get a grant or we get money for liquor control which is I don't know what the formula it is but it's the amount of alcohol that your area sends for sp or sells and stuff and they give it back to you for enforcement. We can use it to buy stuff. This year we bought some flashlights and some radars. We tried to get the radars here before the cars were being outfitted and so we moved money from one GL to another which we could do without city council but this money now needs to go back in to that which we're going to pull from um well we pulled it from just small tools and supplies. So we pulled it from small tools and supplies put it into the alcohol so we can spin it through the Now we just need to put it back into small tools. Okay.

And that that's like that's money that's already came in. So basically we just we skip we we had $15,000 that we budgeted but the check because of the differences came in at 192 like that. So this is this is pre and then the animal shelter we have we have some walls that need to be repaired. We were going to wait a little bit, but we don't think we can wait on it. It's becoming a health hazard with the mold and everything else. Um, we have a capital project which we're going to put some more kennels in a back building. We want to take the money. We're going to hold off on that, but we want to take $10,000 out of that and put it in to get these the animal shelter and then we'll mess with the capital project and the kennels next budget. Does the county ever help you with things like that or is that all on the city?

Yeah. No, the county they they don't really help with that stuff, but they have a contract. They pay $51,000, I think, for the contract. They don't help specifically with like repairs. Okay. And you think that's enough that they're the contract is way old. I think it's 2018. It needs to be up, you know, when it that contract. I I I think it's been up I think it was a two or three year contract. It's been up, but the county has still been paid. So, we need to look at that and update it maybe, but and Grant knows about it, too. I think he has a copy. Okay.

Maybe have that for the main evening as a discussion, especially with looking at budgets, etc. We probably have a Yeah, I think that's a good idea to cuz I agree the county is not covering it up and yet we've got the line share. Oh yeah. And they seem to forget we're in the county. Yeah. And if we when we look at that if we could have numbers of what I know we've seen those before, but they're percentage of what and some of them are hard to track. helpful. Yep. Just a few months ago, she pulled all the stats. Pretty much the county and city are half and half and then there's some they're about 40

the animals that the amount of animals that go she has the exact numbers. Any questions on those? Thank you.

Okay. Okay, moving on. Uh, the next one's pretty, this is a good story here. Um, APR, they they're wanting to move their funds into their all their donations. So, they have 11,540 dollars that they've received in donations. So, and a lot of them, I was talking to Zeke and they're like a lot of small donations added up to this. So, from registration fees or fundraisers that they put on. So, Um, that's a good one. Any questions on that?

Me a little bit and I think I maybe talked to you about it, but do we have as guidelines how if they're putting on a tournament, do we have guidelines in the city of how those funds should come? And are they should they be going if the city has put forth the money to sponsor help them with the tournament, should they go to a personal veno? Could there be a city account set up? So there's not I just feel like there's a little bit of not of a step there that maybe could be cleaned up a little bit so that the money's not being filtered through individual people. That makes sense.

Yes. Yes, that does. I Zeke would know the details of it, but I would actually suggest that we clean this up in our procurement policy and getting it fine-tuned there, which is on the agenda, but we're going to push it to the next council. Okay. Yeah. I tend to agree on that. I tend to agree on that. That would clean it up and your paper trails clean. Yeah. You say turn baseball, golf tournament. They do pickle ball and pickle ball. Okay. Pickle ball. Pickle ball's the example that came that I noticed, right? Yeah.

Well, the other side of that golf tournament, but I just think there's if it's a city kind of funded event, it should probably be funneled back, not other people, but through the city. Oh, yeah. I I think that would pick I think it would also protect whoever has the menu. Exactly. Sorry, that's kind of off the budget.

No, no, that's perfect. That gets us lined out for when we talk about it. So, um, the next one is, so in the original capital projects budget, we had $16,000 set aside for the clubhouse to repair cabinets and and part of the kitchen. However, um, with employees moving on and stuff, it kind of put us behind and we weren't able to um, get them fixed. So that money there wi with the tenants moving into the kitchen, we've come across a lot of concerns and other issues like the heating and air um lighting and plugins and the fridge and all that stuff. So we're we're requesting to move that money for that purpose, not just the cabinets, but the clubhouse.

Is is that amount enough? Will that cover everything for the next two months? Yes, it's for this budget year. Yes. Okay. Yep. And you'll probably see the cabinets on there for the next one. Um Bonnie Drive replacement. I have Kirby here to explain this one for 78,200. Yeah. So, you know, we uh uh finished our replacement body drive, all the reconstruction and utilities in the road. So I had budgeted 300,000 for the sewer line replacement and so it came in a little less as Ryan said the 70 what was it right

78 78 78,000

so in our new budget year where we could take this money and put it in the sewer because it is in the sewer department but not they're not the same account. So, you'd need approval from you guys. And what that would do is there's three different capital projects that would be scheduled for the sewer department that we have for next this July coming up. We could get those accomplished with this money. So, that's what I'd be doing. One's the grinder, one's a software update for the computers and the system and uh so those kind of things would be taken care of with this being transferred from the sewer department maintenance to basically the treatment sewer. Yeah.

And you're not going to pave it first and then do the sewer line. No. Okay. It was all done. No, no, no. We'll do it in reverse. Good. That's what that's about. Thank you. Thanks, Gordy. Thank you. And then we've got $600 for um the aquatic center that was for Natalie's um uniform allowance that just simply just got forgotten about and added in the budget from last year. So the next one's kind of the same thing. We we did it for the cell phones, but we forgot about the landlines. Yes, we still use the landlines. So

that's impressive. Yep. So, that was 10,000 for to make that hole there. Um, the leaf vacuum, if you remember right, in the last fall, we purchased that. Um, I guess some of you councilmen weren't here, but we had that purchase for that and it was on your PO packet today for that 36,500. All this is is just transferring that money over. We already had it. We just transferred it over. So, um, the next two are kind of the probably the biggest ones on the list. Um, and maybe I'll You know what? All right. Put you on the spot, Tucker.

Okay. With the generator since you've been spearheading that one. Are you all right doing that? Can you talk about this last time? Kind of. It's kind of slow now. I guess

that's why I had you do it. So this this is that same homeland security grant that we get every year. We usually get 14 that goes to the police, but about three years ago, we asked for a generator. And when we were in the meeting, somebody else, I don't can't remember, they said, "Hey, we got a generator. Was $160,000." And uh what it is is to power the building. So this is a big generator. It goes out in the parking lot. It's diesel. It powers the building in a power outage. We've got the fire department and the police department. And I think it when the building was originally set up, I think it was set up to have one, but they canceled it out. We never had one. So, fast forward a couple of years. And we get a bid for it and it's 300 is it? It's the 176 plus the 80. We got needed from the homeland security grant and that was going to be half. We budgeted in capital project another 80. So that's 160 plus the 170 equals it came up to be $350,000 once they actually got into the building, how they had to hook it up, how they had to go and go through the concrete and everything else to put it out here. And so the question is is do we want to bite the bullet and put a generator in? It would cost us an additional

1716 176 in addition to the 80 that we already have in the capital project. And this is the 80 that we're getting from the homeland security. That generator would just be stationary on like a cement pad. Yeah, it would be out Yeah, it would be out right here kind of by where the salt is to the police department and it's a big generator. Once the power it runs every month, you know, it's got a maintenance schedule and everything else and it will power the fire department. I mean, we've had we were talking to Ryan, you know, we've had times where the power's out can't even get in because it's all just digital keypads and everything else

and it it will be a fixed not not a mobile. It's a fixed fixed generator.

What's the ongoing uh maintenance? It's quite a bit. But yeah, I don't have the specifics on how much the maintenance part is, but yeah, it's it's quite a bit. Every month there's some maintenance. It automatically turns on and turns off and you have to do the fuel and all that stuff. So, there is some maintenance. You have to upgrade your gas line. Yeah, I think this one is decent.

Do we do we have it in the budget, Ryan? Yeah, Zeke, I talked to him this morning and he said it's coming from the general fund. So, yeah, it's in the budget. I like the idea of it. But our grid's getting more and more.

It probably should have been done quite a while ago, but it's not for sure. It's not going to get cheaper. No, that's the problem. Okay. We have to reign the budget by diesel. Another grant must drive a diesel truck. I don't drive mine anymore. Any other questions on the generator? No. Okay, the last one. I kind of wish Josh was here for this one. He's really good at selling things. I'm

I'm just here to present the message, I guess. But um so and mayor's involved a little bit with this. We had a meeting um with um the national fitness campaign and they they don't do this very often. They actually reach out to the cities and and counties and offer this grant. And so we were accepted to be awarded for the grant and it's 35,000. however, to put in and so this is for um a fitness pad, exercise pad. And I I actually got a picture right here so you guys can see what we're talking about. Um so this side of it is just half of what this proposal is. Um, and so to do it all, the whole complete project's 320,000 and 35,000 of it is grand. So, and the rest, the 265 we would have to come up with. Am I reading that right, Tommy?

Yes. Yeah. 300,000 total, correct? Yeah, it was 320. 320. Yeah. And that's for installation and everything. So, um, we thought we'd propose it to you. I mean, we we weren't signed one way or another. Um, it's just an opportunity that was presented to us and wanted to pass that along and and at least let you aware of it. And now, one of the locations that was thought about putting this is up at the Constitution Park where the volleyball just south of the sand volleyball fields.

There's there's actually two areas. I'm not sure which one if they were immediately south or the one just a little further south. They they were looking for shade and that was one of the locations that we thought would be best if it were to happen. So, yes. So, they actually approached me and it's an invitation only, but uh I don't know how exclusive that is. And the idea that we get a $35,000 grant was, you know, anytime you get a grant now, the only, this is my own personal feeling% though, like it's not a very big It's

It just feels like we're going to sell you a product for so much money and give you a discount. Yeah. Yeah. That's what it feels like to me. So, um, if the grant I would really be a lot more motivated about this grant if the grant was bigger, but 35,000 on 300,000 is like I 10 or 12 13% discount as well. If we're spending that money and we put something like that in, I will tell you what the public will say. You guys know what they will say? Well, that's what I was going to ask. You know what they will say?

Have we heard of a need or a desire? What they want is a splash pad and that's what that money could be allocated for. And that's we've done a survey. We've had input. The next thing that we should be working towards is a splash pad. That's this isn't something that even came up on any of the suggestions that they've said. And my my other thing too is I'd really like us to focus on something south of town and just adding another thing to Constitution doing that.

Well, that's I I thought this since we're talking about a splash pad, the parks at Centennial would be great for splash a splash pad because you could build it right into the into the park.

Right. Right. And the other thing um going along there um by those volleyball courts and I don't know if we've decided for sure Cody can maybe help you remember but as we take the walking path from where it ends at the Neola Highway and we're going to circle clubhouse drive come off Ariba and cross over to get to the walking park at Constitution. It's going to drop below that for this north ball diamond and come across there to meet up. So, it stays off the road that comes by your house, right?

So, we're not going to give up any of that parking for EBIC. It's going to come across um below that baseball diamond and then up along the road to get to the walking path. And so, I'm not sure where we landed there. Do you remember, Cody? would have to like have the engineers. Yeah, that could change. So along there there's kind of a plan to get the walking path to the existing walking path at Constitution, but also keeping them off the road so we don't lose parking for UVIC and ball games and stuff. So So this the site I mean it's not permanent. It was just a suggested site. But

um coming back, let me bring this back to the pad itself. I I really have mixed emotions about it. So I it I the concept I really like just I I I'm a no. Feels like more of a discount than anything. Yeah. Well, I'm a no. not just because that just because it wasn't really in what people wanted in the community and if we're going to represent the community, we ought to try to get what um they're interested in, what they would like for the community. And so, and this was, like I said, not on anybody's radar. So, I'm I I couldn't support this. I don't disagree.

Yeah, I'm I'm in tell Josh. I guess if you want to sell it, you better be here. Told you I wasn't a good salesman. I actually had a feeling where that was going. So, okay. But we just thought we should at least present it and let you aware of it. So, appreciate it. I I appreciate free money, but it's a little bit more appealing when it's We've had We've had better grants for our stuff. If I If the grant was 265 and the city came up with 35, then I would be like, "Yes, it'd be different." No question. Okay. Do we need to go into public hearing then? Yes. I I would entertain

I would move we go into public hearing to uh reopen the 26 budget. I have a motion to open the 20 to reopen the 2826 budget. Second and a second by Councilman Allen. Anybody any other discussion? Okay. All in favor? Hi. Okay. At this point, at this time, we have an opportunity for any public comment.

Seeing none, I move back session. I'll second that. Mayor, I move we go back to regular session. Seeing no public comment. Councilwoman Goodri second and a second. So, okay. All in favor? I. Any opposed? Okay, this is a discussion. Is it supposed to also be an action or we don't we need to act? Yeah. So now you Okay. So I would move we approve the budget except for the exercise pad the the presented um budget changes or budget amendment.

Budget. Thank you. Except for the exercise f. I'll second. I have a motion to approve the budget with the exception of the exercise pad or fitness pad fitness courts. And a second. Uh, any other discussion on that? All in favor? I. Any opposed? Tell gives a hard time. This thing says 2006. I don't know if you noticed at the top. I sure will. The date there says April 7th, 2006. Council pointed it out. That was just there. He told me to tell him who got it. So,

I don't know. Bonus points. Bonus points for Councilman Allen. Well, we're looking for bonus points. Fitness is spelled wrong, too. Finance. Finance or finesse? Yeah, finesse. Okay, let's move on down to uh we are going to table the 100 east and 200 east agreement. Drew's not here to present that. Mayor, I would say you're t or scratching the national fitness campaign grant. That was a resolution. So, if you were to accept okay this fitness pad, that's what we would have had to okay

accept as well. Sorry, I went straight to that because we had already nixed it. And the officer Tucker, are you up with the uh East Elementary traffic study? Yep, I think so. Kirby wants to do it. Question. Yeah. Um, if you remember, we had East Elementary that came and they wanted to maybe make some changes to some of the stuff. Kirby and I met with the principal is it Davis? Dave Taylor Taylor and uh we walked through and what we came up with is they wanted a lot more than we could just

of course put some paint on as a crosswalk or whatever. And it started to get pretty technical with where signs should be in relation to our school and stuff. And so we kind of we kind of thought that we think that East Elementary should pay for traffic studies and then we could make some decisions about that.

What are some of the things that they're wanting? One thing that that we thought would would be quite a bit of money and we didn't know if it was even done is they wanted one of the crossing walks to go through that's a T intersection like this and which I don't know if that's even to do or not but where they wanted the crosswalk is a big culvert dip like it would have to be all reworked and everything else and then as strange as it is where that sidewalk is the post box is right in the middle of the sidewalk and so is the Moon Lake Pole. And so it just kind of made lots of obstacles.

Lots of obstacles. And then it came to where signs should be as far as statute goes and stuff. So an engineer kind of needs to decide what's best. Then we also thought the thing at that intersection we're talking about where they'd like to cross one. It's an uncontrolled intersection. So that is that on the north side of the school. Mhm. Yes. And that would cause some concerns where it's uncontrolled for the children and stuff and being into liability and the multiple sign changes and everything should be a study done in my opinion by them on the request. They want this stuff done so it's done legally and safely you know for the children and everything everybody involved. You say uncontrolled you mean there's no existing stop?

No stop. Okay. So you're talking like six east and the church. Do you have a ballpark what those usually run? Just a study. A study? Yeah, usually about $2,500. Okay. Is that is that your recommendation then? Recommendation is a traffic study. I think that the cost or if the new district should do it or if wants to do it up to you guys. I don't know.

I I'm just because I'd like to be good neighbors with the district and and again I'm on the board so I I probably shouldn't speak much but I wouldn't mind if we split the cost with them on that so that we can help keep kids safe as well. And everybody wants kids safe. We just want to be the same. Right. And I'm not saying you don't. I'm just saying I think if we as a city said we'd be willing to split the cost, right? One one thing to keep in mind too that I can't imagine that all the other schools aren't going to want to be the same. Once the cost or once the study's done, whoever pays for it and it comes back and says this is what needs to happen and we have to change a covert that will be on us. Correct.

Or will that be on the district? I'd probably be on the bus. I would kind of lean towards the district paying for the study. If we're gonna have to pick up the cost of the signage and the cost of the other things, I kind of feel like let's let the district, especially if it could mushroom to how many schools we have in our boundaries and let them cover that cost and cover the cost of what needs to happen on the What if there's signs? Would they have to put those up or would we

we, you know, we don't have an issue putting the signs up, but the placement of them and what's allowed is part of the study. You know what I mean? I think we're taking on too much liability without having the study done. Well, I think there's time if they can get it done quickly. Is is this also a motion that we need to do tonight or what do we need on this? Just a recommendation. Yeah, probably just get with uh the superintendent or whatever and just say our recommendation is get a study and then we'll work with that. Yeah, I'm good with that. How was the process to discuss with Moonlight to relocate a Sorry.

For free. No, I'm not saying for free. Postal service. We had to move the one up at the gun range that cost us service move is a lot different than 30,000. Yeah, they're not cheap. Especially I imagine that's in sidewalk. It's like right in the middle of the sidewalk. Is it that the franchise agreement? I'm not answering. I just have a question. And I don't know if it's required to be moved. It was just some It was just an observation.

Okay. All right. Any other questions on that? All right. I will move down to the um the CIB priority list which is tabled.

But you do have a copy in your packets to take home and if you will study that and then if you have any questions bring it in. And if you don't mind me commenting, mayor, the probably the most important ones that first year list. Those are the projects where if we need to go to CIB right now, it's got to be on that one-year list. So, make sure that that year one list is what you guys all agree with. So, and prioritize them. Okay. Do do you have Ryan, do you have an idea of when this needs to go to the CIB? We've got a couple months. So, we're I think we'll have it on the next

we'll have it in the agenda in May. Okay. And uh with that, I will move down to the Cedarview Monwell discussion. I'll leave that to you, Grant. I've been left out of the loop on it where I haven't been invited to meetings. In fact, I've been expressly uninvited. So, I don't know what's going on with that. the the the last uh email that we had on that. Did you did you see those proposals that they sent? Josh told me about one and he was going to I did get one that I was confused by and Yeah, I did too. I got that one.

And then Josh told me that there was another one which might clarify it, but I wasn't included on that. I I would just like to comment having talking to Sawyer, maybe Sawyer be better to speak on it, though. Um they want some money 15 cents added to help with the the tank, but yet we're holding water above them and they're we're running water uh their water through our system and we're not charging them, but they want to charge us. So, water there's water being through our system that we brought actually Ryan and I spoke about that just a little while ago

with them. No, just before we came into here that that needs to be looked at as well and you know maybe maybe when they see what it would cost to do the same they might well I guess

the amount of water being wheeled might be greater on our end. They were supposed to get us some information because they were concerned about a couple things on our last meeting. I haven't seen that. The proposal they sent didn't make sense as Grant mentioned. So I I think if we have another meeting, we need to make sure Sawyer's there um as well as Kirby and uh Grant if possible if they're willing to to meet with him. And then we need to get this hashed out because I think though there's some things I I'd been told before and I've forgotten when we met with them they were kind of a little bit testy about some of these things and so we were just trying to calmly meet about stuff, find out what they wanted but I I I still think we're not there yet.

Yeah. So, can can I talk a little bit on So, today I kind of was just because I knew this was going to come up for the willing fee. And so, the length of pipe that they're asking for the willing fee, it's just this yellow portion right here. So, if you can just visualize the green, the light green's our pipeline and the yellow's theirs. This is 3.2 miles, 3.25 miles. Well, from this point to our source is 9.25. So, if we if we reciprocate the the fee, they're going to end up owing us a lot of money.

Yeah. So, I I just thought you would want to know that information, kind of get a visual on where we're talking and how much. So, and we're storing water in our tank up there, too, right? And then they they want to charge us for storing in theirs. And I'm just like, plus we have pump costs and chlorination a cost.

That's right. You mentioned that last time we talked. I forgot there's some chlorination and some pump cost. So I just we need to meet again, but they need to be aware that there's other uh things to consider that we hadn't brought up. And I just have forgotten since it been a while since we talked about it. And of course, uh, JR was doing a lot of the negotiations with them and I wasn't as involved, but I think we've kicked this can bar up. We need to get it done. But we need to bring those things up with them, I think, before we can make it. Did we Did we 14 years? Was that the correct?

They said 12 to 14 years, something like that. That it's been kicked down the road. And so Grant, you mentioned earlier that you've been removed from the situation or from the They the meeting that I think you went to, right, Don? Um Josh called me as I was on my way over here to it and said that they said that if I was there that they would leave. Is that Was that because they didn't have counsel themselves present? They just didn't want any counsel attorney whatsoever. Okay. Yeah, they didn't have counsel either. So, well, aside from the email that I didn't understand, I haven't had any updates.

Yeah, I I think part of the the the idea was they don't feel like they've gotten anything out of their own representation as well. Well, I'm I'm not I'm not on board with the wheeling fee that we take from them. Well, I just think we need to figure out what we're going to do on that with us having water. If they're going to charge us, then we should charge them. Initially, I was like, okay, I get it. We are wheeling our water. But then that was there was no comment on the idea that we we're also wheeling your water. Well, it sounds like stoing it a few other things.

Well, yeah. And if they really wanted to, we could set two different base rate or two different willing speed because from where they where we tie into their tank to where we tie into the other side of their system is another two and three miles. So we could if you wanted to play that then we could have one willing feed to their tank and one willing fee to their connection. Okay. I just think that they're not thinking of that or they're not they're hoping we won't think of that. So, we need to Yeah. I mean, ideally, I would like to not have any of our water being wheeled to be honest.

Well, that was always the plan initially, right? And then we thought this would be cheaper to access that, but it's just been a pain to work with them on this. And I understand they're a smaller entity. They're trying to get what they can, but we're they shouldn't be doing on the back of the Roosevelt taxpayers for especially when we're helping them out both at the at our tank and and wheeling water for them. So, can you try to meet with them, mayor, and see if you can That's Yeah, I have not heard anything back from them. I

reach out. I will have Josh reach out and set that up. Okay. Um so that he's in the loop as well. But let's at least make sure if they don't want counsel, I mean I would prefer that if we had, but if not, let's make sure Sawyer and Kirby are there on that. Maybe you if you've been there. Yeah, I'd like to sounds like pretty familiar on the issue. Yeah, I'm happy to be there, too. I just want to make Sawyer and Kirby I think are are more versed than I am but yeah and Ryan you attend those as well right? Yes some of them there was a period where I got booted like Grant for a minute now I'm back in

Okay. All right. All right. Well okay. Yeah. Initially the meeting was it went south real fast and then we kind of we were able to pull it back and after that it was it was okay. Yeah, I I made a few snide remarks at the end though because I wasn't happy but I tried to not do too much at that point. All right. Are we up to the next one? Yes, we are. Unless we had any other No.

Okay. So, now we come to uh what you've been waiting for our KK agreement. So, just a little bit of uh background there. Well, maybe I'm not going to steal your thunder. I'm gonna let you steal my thunder. You two you two want to step up and and come over and um June 30th is correct is our the end of the contract the current contract.

So, um we So, uh in in mayor's uh words, he's not stealing the thunder in any way. Um maybe to preface what we're want to talk about a little bit. Uh November 1st of 77, 1977 to be specific is when KK and Roosevelt first started doing business. So next year being 2027 will be 50 years. And uh we think it's kind of cool that we've had a partnership, partnership, whatever, working relationship, whatever you want to call it, for that long. We met with an individual here not too long ago. And those of you who know who what or who Waste Management is or what they are, they are a national company. Um mainly service big cities, but they're they've got some rural roots as well. I met with an individual here not too long ago and he says, "Do you realize that your business is older than that theirs?" And uh we did not know that. Um but I guess my point with that being um we haven't chosen to go national. We want we've stayed here at home um and we'd like to stay here at home. So our we want to I guess make a proposal that if council is willing that we would like to enter into a new agreement once this one expires and uh and keep moving forward. And we do have some thoughts of of some promotions or whatever you want to say to um honor the 50 years that we have

been in business. and so forth and so on next year. And so, um, there were there were a couple of items that maybe just some cleanup, a little bit of, uh, like building clean up, I think, what they were working on or the city's working on, I think. And we had we actually met uh, when did we meet? It's been about a month.

Been about a month. So, we met in here. It was actually I would I thought it was a great meeting and uh they were even uh willing to come in later to fit my schedule. So uh but it was a really good meeting and will Did we set up a second one? Did we How are you feeling on that? Do we need another one? I I think one of the things that that the mayor is referring to there a little bit is is um there there are lots of you know and this is this is not something that we really want. Okay. But within the contract, there's not a a lot of things and my verbage, my English is terrible, but that supports or backs KK. Does that make I'm assuming that's what you're going with with what you were talking about. Is that correct?

Yeah. I mean, just in general, there were some billing things that we needed to

clean up and come to agreement with. you know, we're supposed to be paid by the 20th and we only stay till the 28th, for example. Like, we we really don't have any way. there's no real enforcement of us getting a paycheck or um there's a variety of things that are within the contract that really don't that certainly protects the city which as from what Josh told us the way the contract is currently written because Grant Grant is the one that wrote it up and stuff if if for some reason it ever went to litigation ation. According to what Josh had mentioned that day, uh the courts would most likely favor KK because we did not draw up the contract. Doesn't we're not going to litigation, so that don't really matter. So, but there are some checks and balances that that we would like to see improved in a new contract.

And there's also things that are within the current contract that we feel could be clarified or there's a little bit more backing, shall we say?

Um, and you know, for example, uh, we submit changes um, and sometimes go three months before a change is ever made on the building side. And we my opinion that's unacceptable. It cost us money and it cost you money too and you know I think that there's an email that goes back and forth on a weekly basis if we could somehow just make sure that those things are being taken care of on a weekly basis. I mean,

we mean like a can being needs pulled or someone's being not being filled, you end up getting the service. We we with our new system like I don't want to with our system, we have actually found accounts that this that the city uh is not charging water or sewer for garbage. just keep working the free act within the city limits. Um

would is there a possibility or suggestion that u I'm just thinking off the top of my head like a sit down with accounting your accounting accounting here. I I'm just throwing out options. We we've done some of those and and we've come a long ways. We still have a long ways to go. That's my feeling. You guys you guys build the county residents um direct direct bill, right?

Um and and I'm just asking out loud, would it clean up things if you just direct build Roosevelt City with the citizens the same way?

That's a great question. I I'm just asking because I because I know I was talking to someone the other day and one person got three bills for the same can. One from the city, one from you guys, and one for a mother that also was somehow included. And so I think there's I agree with you. There's stuff we can do, but there's probably a few things that way we need to clean up. And I'm not sure. I'm I'm just throwing out an idea. Um, and we used to, I think in the past, you you guys we talked and I remember you talked about how we have leverage, but we really don't because the the we don't turn water off right away. So, sometimes we'll go a few months before we finally have to shut water off on someone. Um, if, for example, if the if certain entities are helping the people that are, you know, less fortunate, need some help financially, they'll pay water and and sewer, but they won't pay garbage. So, and then in the past before this agreement, we had some issues with sometimes,

you know, we weren't getting paid and and yet we were still paying you guys. So, the city was losing money. So, I'm just all I'm saying is if if we could clean it up, it might be easier. And if it's not, I mean, I'm happy to negotiate. I'm just throwing out an idea. the you're not wrong in anything that you're saying because we have it's been brought to our attention that those very things have happened like what you're saying. Um the the the twist side of it is as in with our meeting with the mayor and Josh, it's really nice to get one bill that that side of it. The other side of it is if we do that, we do have to increase our rate because of postage,

right? You know, so those those are just two small things, but the the other side of it is uh city ordinance states that everyone in the city has garbage service. And so for the city to implement that and make sure that that's happening, it's best that they take care of billing. Yeah. And I agree with I think that's the biggest part is the management. And how do we make sure I think I think if you separate it then I'm I'm just visualizing like where my apartments are. I can see a neighbor is not getting a can and using my dumpsters or you know and control of that

and that's fine. I'm just talking out loud. I'm not that's why it's called a work session. Yeah. So, I I I think to Mayor's point, I think we do need to to to sit down and go over the contract, especially because it's it's coming up and we need to redo that. And I will throw this out there, there is we do have the ability to sit down and negotiate a new contract or extend the contract with some finite detailer. But I I I think we need to those I'm just throwing those options out there. We have that ability either or so we can discuss it more and and

well it sounds like from we probably need to review it and and edit it. Um but we also want to make sure we're still protecting citizens but the same token requiring people to have one and if we can work on getting better um and especially it's not fair to them to be paid late. Um, so I agree with that and if there's changes made, we need to make sure those are done. But it also does require a lot of extra time on on our employees to do that. Sometimes it doesn't, you know, get done. So we have to work on that as well. So

yeah, we're open to identifying pain points and where we can get a little better. Just just grateful for the service you guys have provided for people. Yeah, you guys did a great job. The service has never been the problem. It's just the logistics this part of it that's always a little bit of a pain. We we actually did at least I mentioned the alternatives and I won't say anything else but well I like I said I think you we just need to get a meeting sit down hash out details and then bring it back to council and probably good if mayor and and maybe one other yeah one or two other

council I plan on being at our next meeting and they were really good to say hey you know 4:00 or later. That's great for me. So, we we like I say, we in no way do we want to come across as we are perfect in this in this scenario because we are far from it.

We we have a ton of room for improvement and stuff. The other uh twist side of of this whole thing is has been jokingly mentioned uh the fuel side of things. It was not in our plan to talk about money. Um, but we all know where it's at. And in the current addendum to the current contract, it goes by the consumer price index. Uh, the consumer price index as of March 11th has gone up 2.4%. Um, we don't want to ask for an increase, but at the same time, the price of the pump is

Yeah, we probably need But that's what I'm saying is I think with the negotiated contract that needs to be included. Um, but we're, you know, I mean, you understand where we're coming from. We're just trying to protect citizens and we've been very fortunate not having raised water or sew or some of those things and we're trying to really avoid that. I realize

I realize this comes from a like it's really easy for me to say this. Um but for side of things that it's not so easy. um at one point in time um you know not not this this may sound like a gruff comment but nowhere in the contract then it's saying you know Roosevelt city employees will allocate 5 hours a week and that's the amount that need they need to be compensated for for what they're doing. Um, at one point in time the the city was keeping, you know, $1.50 per

right like account. Like I said, I realize this is really easy for me to say. Um, but if it truly is an issue of how much time employees are spending and the time that is being taken May I venture to say that you know maybe that thing needs to be back there so that your employees I say your employees like your fault it's not so that the ways of communication can be better and the time element can be allocated in a little greater detail. Does that make sense?

Yeah. No I that's what I'm saying. I think we just need to have set up a meeting, sit down, talk about those things, work something out so when we get to the end of this, we can we can have our contract in place ready to go and then we're not going to be missing a beat there and and I think all those things need to be addressed. So you mentioned the software is that you're using is that something that you could allow a user here to have an account and extended license? Absolutely. Because that would probably save some time sending you an email with changes back and forth. That's a great idea.

The biggest problem is is on our side we have all learning curve

right on our side per se. you know, there is a pin allocated for every resident within the within the city limits. Uh the problem on our side is is even though we have that pin allocated, it comes across as a zero dollar amount for us on our side of the system obviously because we're not. So the dollar amount aspect of it is kind of where I see some struggling for the drivers um because they are watching a tablet the customer has two cans. Um it does say on our side you know resident two cans. Um but the struggle I see as much as anything is I share if we share that with you it'll come up as a zero amount on the dollar amount. with all of the customers are going to show that. So, it's not going to mean a whole lot to your people as far as how much is being built unless you can compare that name with your system.

Your system is just allocating who was paying for how many cans, not necessarily what they're paying for. It honestly needs to be this is one of the areas where so when we a year almost two years ago when we switched over to this system we got it print out we submitted it to the people they did an implementation um Donbar two cans Hancock didn't actually have any service because of where he lived at um uh not take that back because of the HOA side I I had two cans for a minute and didn't realize But you know the situation. Yeah. Yeah.

So it you know there was several things that come up but basically the name side of it and this is one place where we talked today that is a little bit of an issue. If for example that you guys said you know what K y'all just need to do the building. The name side of it is ex lacking extremely from two years ago. Yeah. If that makes any sense. the address as we have strived to keep the address in cahoots if that makes any sense whether it's one can or two cans or whatever it is but the name side of it is

you're lacking in that piece be because of the communication factor of between the two of us well I think you guys can help us out based on your comment earlier about people getting water sew or not paying if if you can help us out. And that's what I'm saying is I think that that's why we want to have that relationship with you guys cuz you can help us out. We can hopefully help you out in a way, but we want to make sure it's fair and it's reasonable as best we can.

And if if there is cans, you know, right now I think it's 50 cents per can that you all are keeping, which we don't care. $5 doesn't matter to us as long as we get what's in the contract. Exactly. Um train was that um shoot we like I said we could really care less about that right

on your guys side but there but for example at the same time 50 cents as I was saying I remember if there's 100 cans out there that aren't receiving a a second can fee. There's $50 that right is the administrative fees back in the city's pocket that could help cover. You want I'd say let's get a meeting set up, mayor and then whoever on the council can or wants to go, you could just invite and let's get it hashed out and get it done before

because I know last time that was part of the problem. we were in the middle of stuff trying to do it while we were on contract and and so doing it now is much better so we can be done and hopefully next year for the 50 we do something fun. And so I just a quick thought we could start with the cleanup week and really start celebrating that week, you know, and you know,

so and and and then as you mentioned that, you know, that was the other thing. Cleanup is coming up again here, right? Directly. Um, mayor and Josh indicated you guys want to be on board with that and I actually have a deal. If it's all right, we'll leave it at the front office and they won't they won't put it on the front window or whatever. And that um mine's laminated though. Oh,

no. And and I think that's what's really cool is that that service and and and I know the city helps cover some of that cost for you guys to to just for example, we could fry a hamburger that during that same time or somebody put on some Dutch ovens or something, you know, Dutch oven cookout contest. Yeah, there you go. Bring it in. Please don't tell where the food came. Well, thank you guys. Um, thank you. With that, no. Do do you need anything else from us? I don't think so. We just um we just want to express

we just want to express our appreciation. Uh, on that note, it's the transfer station just for tidiness purposes. We have to when the trailer is full, we have to climb down in it and walk across it to make sure no boards or whatever sticking up or a new employee and that. And um Monday, I think it was Monday this Monday Monday of this week. And I climbed down in there to to clean up and stuff and he comes up. He said, "What are you doing?" Actually, I had been last Thursday. Last Thursday. I said, "Well," he said, "We're having lunch today, so I'm just looking for

Oh, that's hilarious. I know there's some roadkill in here." Well, thank you guys for your service and our leadership of the city. Thank you for your time. Appreciate it. I'll get that set up. Yeah. Is there a day that's better for you? We'll make any day work. Um, Fridays aren't good, but probably need to deal with Josh figure out. Yeah. So, is next week a good time? Like, sure. Except for Friday. Sure. Okay. Do whatever you like to do. Okay. Okay. I will get with Josh and we'll get that set up. Sounds good. Thank you. Appreciate

you. I'm just going to shout out to Brett. He helped with the parking for a week thing and kind of stressed him out a little bit, but the department showed up as well. Uh, threw some combs out for us. Um, they weren't there for very long, but the cones were very much appreciated as far as on the scenes. We might could even do a movie night at the park to celebrate. Just throwing some ideas out there. Thanks for that. It was great. K. Thank you.

So, uh, let me move on now to the procurement policy discussion that is going to be tabled. Yep. The water conservancy discussion. Kirby and Sawier. Yep. Oh my god. You're here. Kirby's like, I'm just here to support. Yeah, we we've had lots of discussions. How's the council doing this afternoon?

Thank you. So, we've been and everybody can notice we don't have a lot of snow on the mountains. We don't have a lot of rain coming. Supposed to be in the forecast that we're supposed to be getting more rain. So, hopefully that will help with a lot of our water consumption. Um I went up to Sand Wash the other day. It's probably about 80 85% full. Um, that's where we get a lot of all of our irrigation water from for our secondary. They're putting a lot of water into it, but we're supposed to start pulling here next week. Um, so where that ends up is going to be kind of up in the air exactly where it's going to end up. We do have uh 3,000 acre feet allocated for the city for the residents that includes parks, golf course and all that. um been thinking about um how to help implement our conservancy conservation plan where we do where we are kind of going into a little bit drier of a summer than we have in the past. Um just looking at our conservancy, our conservation plan and practices that we have in plan in place right now. Um just going to let everybody know we're going to be sending out flyers and Facebook on our bills especially where uh secondary kicks in next week. Yes.

Probably in the week after that. Try and get some pressure problems. the district just changed out some PRVs on their side. So, trying to get full rate pressure to us will be kind of a a hit and miss the next couple weeks so we can work out things. But hopefully in the next two weeks, we'll be getting our irrigation system pressurized as well. So, I think that's great. I'm glad we're trying to be proactive as much as we can. People should know, but doesn't hurt to have a reminder. So,

I am this just looking at Facebook and watching people's reactions, we're going to have to be the biggest influence on how people handle their water, right? Um, they see us watering in the middle of the day in a windstorm, are they going to want to follow that same and those exact same thoughts? we have to be very conscientious that they're watching what we do as a city.

So, making sure that we have that under control. That way, if we do have to be a little bit more stringent on our conservation plans, it's easier for people to follow our steps.

So, do you do you have an idea how much water goes through the golf course? I think to last double check quite a bit. I know that on my last report, we just did the water usage report for last year. Not to throw them under the bus, but they used more water than the residents.

Well, yeah. Well, there's a lot more to be watered. The reason I'm asking is when uh you know, we had a couple of residents that have talked about when we power up the golf course and we power up the line and and pressure pressure up the line, sorry, their sump pumps go off. So that leads me to believe that we've got a lot of leaks in our golf course. If we had those taken care of, I I think part of what's in the CI for the new Yeah. So, but they there are some things they could do to make sure they're not watering the road. Yes.

Running out their neighbors. I mean, there's things that they could do to help too before that. But yes,

I'm curious to do you guys know if there's any like state funding incentives for businesses or anybody to do zero skating or things like that. I want to say USU is doing some um they had some we went to a conference two weeks ago and there was some mention of residential and a little bit of commercial funding for zero escapes even for like updating to like a smart sprinkler system that had like a rain sense and everything on it. That way if it it thinks it's supposed to rain, it's not going to turn on anything.

These weren't in Roosevelt City limits, but two businesses watering during our early rain we had last week. Kind of disappointing. Yeah. Going back going back to where you said the golf course just the golf course uses more water than all of the city Roosevelt city residents. But it's secondary, right? It's all secondary. More than all of the portal city uses. Yes. Okay. They'll hit just barely over a million gallons a day,

but they've got a lot of acres. The grass is shorter, but and and we also put a lot of water into the parks, too, as well. So, it's not just a golf course, but Well, a new irrigation line would help tighten things up, right? conservative could you get the humidifiers that go right into the ground and tell you when to water how much I think it'd be interesting to see if there is a savings once we get a new line in. Yeah,

that would give us an idea. If we ever get it in, we'll be able to compare and see. Yeah, we have reports we can show and and generally the golf course it it's hot months, cold months. It follows everybody's same and we can always they just add a lot more acreage. Yeah. They put out, you know, well, Kirby, let's let the rough grow a little longer. You have to water that. That's where I spend all my time anyways. there. I'm more worried about the sand over there. Yeah, me too. Okay. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you guys. Thanks.

All right. Don, I'm going to let you need the

So, I brought this up last time. Um there's so there's entities in Utah currently that do 410 island city midvail. Um Utah state government did it. Uh they find that there's less commute time. U people are actually happier. You can have hours open earlier and later for people that work traditional. It gives them more options. Uh I would I would recommend that what we do is we approve for maybe June, July, August on a trial 4 day 410s. See if there's feedback, if there's push back, if people are this is terrible, then we can always go back to the five, but at least we'll have some data from the citizens. Um but having been here on Fridays and it being pretty dead uh and it wouldn't preclude obviously if we needed we'd have people on call for any emergencies if there was sewer water I mean that's not going to go away we have that anyway I mean they have to be available weekends etc wouldn't uh all we're saying is is that

are you talking just the people in the city offices well I would say city employees park people the parks and the golf course people that. Yeah, some of them would have to go. But I I Does that work for your guys or is that Yeah, absolutely. We actually have been, you know, the answer works great for us.

Yeah, I just think we ought to try it and just see if if we have to tweak it or if we just say, you know, this isn't going to work, we can always go back. Um, but I think a three-month period and and again, research is showing uh that it's good for employees. Um, it's good for the citizens. Yeah, there's one day they're not open, but um having longer hours, I know people work till, you know, 4 or 5:00 and then they need to go to the city and they can't because it's not open. Yeah, I ran into that just yesterday. So, they got here 2 minutes late and yeah, the court was already shut down. So,

but I I mean I can we actually I'd rather I'd like to see like some projected numbers of what we think first. before we do it. Well, and that's fine. That's I um I tend I like to come down here on Fridays when uh when I'm not at work just to be available. Um I do like that. And um you know, being not where I'm where I'm not full-time here and being able to come down and be available on Fridays, I do like that. So, well, again, it's just my recommendation to try it, but

I think we should try it, too. I'm just gonna ask you why we start in June instead of We can start early if you want. I was just thinking summer months cuz I know the school district they do 410s. I know Moon Lake is currently on 410s right now. Lake doesn't like daylight savings time. So, I'll I'll speak to this just a little bit because I've been doing 410s over 20 years. Moonlight does 410 year round now. Yeah, that's what I thought. It's just Dan, I go 11. That's based on my experience. I'm feel like I'm way more productive doing 410s. Uh when we would switch, we'd switch for 3 months to 8 hours and I just didn't feel like that was enough. But we traveled a lot,

right? But another thing that did surprise me was when we switched year round, there were some employees that didn't like it. So I'd be curious to hear from city employees and just get their

Well, maybe that's what we do is we check city if they're if the employees are willing to try it and then we try it if they're if they you know if we get some push back from them. I don't I just like I said I've been here enough times on Fridays that there's nothing going on. People are just sitting here. I think we could be more productive on 410s. There'd be less commute time. Uh we could shut down offices, maybe save a few bucks. It's not going to be a ton of money, but if this is shut down, it would save a little bit of money uh on on utilities and things for the city. Um commute time of what, 3 minutes?

Well, the commute for for employees coming in and out, that's one less day for for commute. Plus, uh, they could then use varieties possibly for doctor's appointments or other appointments possibly like in the city, whereas now they'd have to take time off. So, we have employees actually at work where they could we we could request the plan. I know for example, Taviona and Alimont both are on a 4 day. All the ball games have to be Thursday night, Friday, Saturday. They can't leave during and and if they have to leave too early on Thursday, they can't. They have to wait till Friday morning to leave for a ball game. even usually plan that weekend. And so having seen Kirby out at the city at a doctor's appointment, it's just he had to take time off. You know, granted, that's not going to happen all the time, but if you can schedule a Friday for those kind of things, that just makes it easier. So, I'm just saying is I think

it's worth looking at. And uh like I said, I'm willing to just do a trial, get some feedback, and I'm I'm willing to do it. Me personally as a resident, I being on the board of Moon Lake, I wasn't happy with or tense. I thought the office up front could be open to take bills. People get paid on a Friday. They don't get paid on a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday.

Um, you know, so I've often thought it's like, well, go Tuesday to Friday, then have Monday off. But that's that was my opinion as a resident. I'm like, uh, I pay all my bills myself. It's not so much of a an issue now because I come in anytime I come into the office, I can pay it. But, um, well, some are now doing online surprises. Quite a few that still come in come in the office and come up through the drive up window. Well, the drop box is still open up there. Drop box. Yeah. Yeah. And we have a drop box, too. Well, I mean, one of the employees that's

But then I'm like, you know, as as a person that's working on a salary and 50 hours a week, it's like, oh, so now they don't have to take an appointment. They get the day off and they I have to take a day off and go to any appointment. So, when you said they don't have to take a day off and schedule it for Friday, I was like, I'm on I work at the wrong place. So, well, I did too when I worked for the district because I had I had to schedule after school or or I had to wait till summer sometimes. So, I maybe what we could do is have Brian uh get feedback from the employees what they think for him to cancel in May and then we can make a decision.

Yeah, I I would Yeah. Um Yeah, I would prefer that. Uh, and maybe even a projection of maybe what we think we might save. Okay. Going to a 410.

Yeah. I mean, I can spit out all the pros and cons too right here for me personally or or for the crews, but ultimately they got to have a say. So, I don't want to speak for all the employees. I mean, for me, I I think I'm already putting in 510 maybe. So 410 sounds nice, but um but again on the flip side, having a Friday to catch up on things and it's it is slow here. It is not busy at all. Um now, however, do we have people coming in? Yes, we do. Um but I would dare bet money on we have more people showing up late wanting to come in

after the after. Yeah. And that's that's a key element I think if we do this that we need to stay we need to be here. Yeah. At that prime time after. Right. And that's my point. They need to be open too. So would you open at 8 until 6:00 or 7 until 5? Didn't we go 7 to 5:30? Is that what it was? Yeah. So a little history. We copied we mirrored uh Moon Lake for years. In fact, when I was first hired, that's what we did is we mirrored Moon Lake on what they were doing. And the winter months, we Why did you go back? Um,

it was a different council and mayor changed. We did it several years. That's what I was going to comment on. We did it several years.

It ran smoothly. There was no issues. Yes. Is it a little different for each department? Yes. But my department in particular, I can speak for all my guys in my department works fantastic. Not only jobs you set up for, you get completed. You're not tearing back down. Resetting up one more day. And they do try to schedule. I ain't saying all the time, but they do try to schedule things on Fridays with their kids, dentist, or whatever it may be. And moralewise and everything is fantastic. And you do save in fuel, electricity. I like Don said, not a lot, but yes, you do. And it worked great for several years, but as we know, council mayor, there's different opinions of what may or may not be good for them.

That's right. And and back then it was before we had express pay, before we took credit card. So now there's options, right, to to pay and even Yeah. on call. So absolutely. Um, another thing to look at it too, I just I'm thinking here even for the admin here, we're always at either planning, zoning, city council, RPR, like there's always later meetings anyway. So, we're we're here and we're going to be here till 5:36 or whatever. So, but we're willing to try whatever. Um, if you want the data and you want us to compile some stuff and talk and and we're from the

employees said I think we get the feedback we can make decision in May and then would would uh feedback from residents be valuable as well? Well, until they online pull. No, I say I say we ask the employees and then we give it a trial run and they can get a lot of kickback and then Yeah, cuz I think you give you always the negative. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, on the contrary, the commissioners asked us to be open on a Saturday and so like I I would love to be on a 4 pin schedule, but if we were to do that on our side, it would be Well, you take your service. You'd probably take the Monday off and be open on a Saturday or something, right? Because that's your transfer station is busy. It It really doesn't matter. All I'm getting at is that we are asked to be there on Saturday and honestly what we pay doesn't come back in. Yeah. Not busy enough anyway. It's not. Yeah.

It's it it costs us money to be open on Saturday. But because of the fact that the landfill is 40 mi that way and 30 miles that way, we are asked to be open on Saturday. So there is there's opposition in in all of it. However, we have worked it out to where we are able to have a schedule for our guys where they have every other Friday off. They're in a group that works for one and a rotate group. And far as David and I go, we can't wait for Friday to come. I think I think you're making a point between private and there city county government or state government.

Private enterprise. You don't sleep really. I mean, I'm on call 24/7. So, and I I just want to make a quick comment on something like that. The confusion becomes with the residents. Last thing like this, you're off, you're off. There's not no gray area to where they're wondering, you're open, you're not open. It's that drive basically. You know what I mean? Like say half the crews here Monday, half the crews, you know, there Friday. it. I I do know in the past that that just doesn't work in the residence. Yeah.

Well, I think we have some information to gather and we can decide next time. I have a meeting in Almont I'm kind of hoping to get to, but we also have the police. You're here till it's done. Thank you, Mayor. Uh, no. Um, Grant, were you were were you aware of this on where you're on the training? Yeah.

Um, I'm ready to do it whenever. We do it every year. Uh, I was talking to Ryan about it though where Rowdy is not here. It's required for the council once a year. With Rowdy not being here, if we do it, he's going to have to figure out a way to make it up. For that reason alone, we postpone that until Yeah. And I'm able to do it anytime. Let's do that then. Okay. Uh Ryan, you're up with the city manager report. No, we got police department. I'll help you out. Sorry. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. I'm moving down too fast.

I've been waiting for this one. I'm excited for this one. These are our quarterly statistics from January to March.

Sorry, I thought I was at the end of the line. I'm just going to go through them a little bit. Our service calls, which is what dispatch gives us, we're 2535 for the three month. Was that dropped? No, I it's first time me that so I've monitored the these before. I know we have a certain person in the community. Yeah. Um could you elaborate on there when that would come up? First of all, I've watched these calls here. It they they go up and down. So, it's about an average. Okay. But we have and I left my sticky note there. 60 to 37 from that.

Yeah. 37 from the one individual. There was nine, but 37 in the city limits from that's a that's a lot. These these calls right here are all they can be just about anything ranging from citizen assist to actually astute for each. Our traffic stops by the officers were 1178.

You can add one more. I got stopped today. That'll be the next. Yeah, we're in April.

Citations issued, actual citations were 131. Written warnings were 245, which are and then the rest were verbal. Um, I think that's important for people to note that the in talking to the chief, we're not they're not just writing tickets right away. They're they're they're visible. They have the lights going. They're talking to people. They're, you know, giving warnings. If they have to give a ticket, they will, but they're, you know, I mean, to have 1178 traffic stops and only 131 citations, they're they're really trying to work with the citizens. I appreciate it. I think that's there to help keep the community safe.

Yeah.

Created 359 cases. Um, we had 89 arrest cases for adults and 16 for juveniles. That doesn't take in all the offenses for arrest. People arrested for multiple things in one setting. Um, so there were 226 offenses arrested for for adults and 48 for juveniles. And there were actually 98 adults arrested because in some of those cases we arrested multiple people and 22 juveniles. We had 42 traffic accidents in the city. Uh 48 animal related service calls. Um we have 35 uh CANRS. Those are child abuse neglect reporting. Okay. Uh reported some of those can be duplicated uh reported multiple times. So 26 of those received cases are investigated or have been investigated. Um, we have active cases, meaning they we're still investigating them, but detectives are investigating. There will be 17 of those that recreate that we still have open right now from that period. Um 236 were opened and closed out, meaning they either were arrested or there was no further investigation we could complete on those. And total active cases from the start of our reporting system is 61, meaning those are open cases, warrants we're waiting for, stuff like that that are still sitting. um long-term cases, homicide, stuff like that that we're holding on to. Those would be those. Um I broke them down into the the arrest into adults and juveniles. What we

arrested for? We had eight aggravated/imple assaults that were domestic related in this period. We arrested four, one evading, which let me just take note on that. I don't know what our stats are four or four years ago, but we uh it seemed like we had an in meeting every other weekend. We we did and there's a policy out that the neighboring agencies that they do not chase. I've elected to go the other direction with a strict policy monitor and and and supervisor monitoring. The other agencies seem to have them run them on all the time. And this right here shows that it's working.

Yeah, they run on us less than the east and county. County gets on fact like some people that's what they do. They try to run to you county or

Yeah, they do. It's just that means that policy in my my eyes is working. It's effective. Um other aggravated simple assaults were five. Um offenses and talks and stuff like that were 13. Um drug related offenses were 50. Um lar theft, burglary, we had six arrests. Other domestics which are which are like protective order violations, stuff like that. Um, we have nine traffic uh offense arrests are 58. That' be like your suspended licenses, stuff like that. Uh, arrest warrants, we were able to get 40. DUI, we had seven. Um, law enforcement officers killed just assaulted one during that period. Child abuse slash sex offenses were arrested on two. There are other felonies of six and like weapon offenses type things and then other things such as disorderly and stuff would be 20. We have 20 of those. Um juveniles seven assault aggravated three alcohol offenses. Uh drug offenses 11 restance pick which are juveniles or pickup orders usually one one traffic defense arrest. Uh one officer assaulted school related offenses such as disorder in school or whatever. Seven uh three other felonies and 14 other schools. You know, I remember when I first got on, uh, Lieutenant Tucker presented some stuff and it feels like just I mean these

numbers feel like they're lower in a lot of areas and it feels like, you know, like I said, I know they're they're out and about. I meet with the officers quite often and they're they're working hard to keep us safe and and it feels that way just looking at some of these numbers. You keep speaking with them more often. I know chief or do in the in the uh traffic accidents. Do we have an idea of how much of that has been like on Highway 40? I I could separate that and give it to you. I mean it's not important. I just was like maybe off the top of your head.

A lot of I'd say half of our things are accidents are coming out of businesses mostly just to get pile of them as stewards back in the but those are probably half of those. We don't see probably 10 of those are probably major accidents on that I would guess. Are there any data trends that give you guys concerns? I mean, you know, not to give me concerns, but there's I mean, we are high on on the drugs higher than normal. Not for the my experience from this area. That's that's a pretty consistent

concerning per capita. Yeah, we get a lot of come through from out of state with marijuana. We get a lot of that and and we get some from the neighboring agency that comes in here. So, we stay pretty high in that area. I'm concerned about the 37 calls from the one individual because it does take time and and money and energy to to deal with that. And I wish there was a way we could Is she still calling? Oh, yeah. She's picked it up very heavy again. Oh, really? She's living in her vehicle. I saw her

in a parking lot. She kind of migrates to church. She's not allowed at her dad's house. What kind of support do you need? That's a recorded meeting. So, I'm glad you went the other way on the meeting.

I I was pleased with that outcome. There's several things there that that we'll address and I'll You're done. I hope so. There's several things that we want to target. You know, my primary attitude coming here was deterrence and deterring the crime, deterring uh in one way we do that both visually and having these guys out here are or being seen is by having a uh strict enforcement attitude. And that has paid off immensely. the drugs. Uh I turned my attention on a little bit of some of the cases of Canar or child abuse cases that are going to the detectives right now. Uh a couple years back when we had our uh when our homicide aware after that I was kind of caught a little short on detectives. Since then the detective division has has uh beefed up. Uh just we I'm in the process right now of switching a patrol sergeant to into the detective sergeant's position and switching back out with the attitude of first the uh and he left really quick but uh Morant will be going to detective sergeant. He's going to help concentrate more on the ordinance enforcement and the uh animal control which the detective sergeant is the supervisor of. I think we need to uh zero down a little bit more enforcement and everything like that. We've had those discussions and and uh some of the animal calls and things we have. As far as what the detectes are doing, they're they're top-notch uh excellent detectives working really well. It's taking Clint over into uh patrol. I need these patrol officers. Uh when

you're on patrol, a lot of times you you grow so much without getting that investigative experience where Clint's able to show them more uh on how to talk and how to collect information, stuff to make the the case that much better from the very start. It's usually where you fall apart on a case is right there in the initial uh patrol or uh response section. Those are things I'm working on. Now, uh the other thing that we're working on that uh I'll be quite frank, I think we wish we didn't, right, LT is the accreditation. We are working on accreditation. We have been working on accreditation through Utah Chiefs Police Association and uh and we are moving um not too bad but it's probably be another year or so. Uh but we we are tackling it and it it can be painful. We're quite honest with you.

It's been painful. Yeah.

Lieutenant Tucker really taking he's taking the lead on it. he has his every meetings on Thursday mornings uh to sit down and and go through what we need to do and gives out assignments and everything and I walk out with a big stack or whatever. But anyway, uh that's kind of the gist of what we're up to and kind of the flavor that I'm trying to uh mold with the police department. Uh they've come a long ways. I've great success in the last several years with the department uh and it's and it's all credit to these guys. um and what we've allowed them to do in the investment that they have in their department and I'm really impressed with that. I'll answer any questions at all if you have

do let me come back to the youth and those breakdowns is are there areas within the city that they have they have more frequency happening. Yes.

Park well first it was uh first it was uh the college parking lot. They have since blocked that off and they seem to move. Now, unfortunately, we're in a small city and I'm not exactly there's not a lot to do. A lot of us have grown up in small cities. Um, that's kind of the flavor unfortunately. But right now, they are congregated up at the park. They were causing some issues. There's two groups up there. One group was starting to cause some issues. We increased the lighting up there and uh enforcement and uh and tried to interact with them a little bit more. That's alleviated some of the issues, but mostly uh Constitution Park is answering your question.

Would it help if we had more cameras there or just is the lighting? I think we're being effective, but where we should come out of there, they may end up in his front yard or they may end up or whatever. And he'll take them. He'll feed them dogs.

It's is and I don't know exactly how to tackle that. So, I think they know that we are watching and we only tolerate so much chaos and I we pretty well have it under control now. got out of control there for about a month or so. Um, just a ways back, but now that I set that up, I'm not going to cross anything. But yeah, and those juvenile arrests, I believe, is actually down. Yeah, I was thinking it was down. Yeah, they're actually down um from from years past.

Well, I was going to sneak out it unless the mayor Okay. Mayor said it stay, so I was waiting. for you. Thanks, Chief. We appreciate I I notice the amount of patrol cars that areable and how I see one every morning through the school zones and almost every time I leave the work. It's good. The visibility is good.

Do remind me. I think we've talked about this. The budget you have budgeted one more this year or two. Uh no, we uh city council graces us with one last year that uh we have filled. We're actually down technically half a one or a quarter one that we're going to try to finish building this next budget. So it's it was the uh it was the college position which they paid for half and we're trying to work with the budget to make up a part of that. if we can bring another officer on for a fraction of the price of of a full-time officer. That's what we're trying to do.

Okay. Would you prefer a full-time officer? Mhm. Okay. I know it was a dumb question. And and we intend on putting that extra position over into the detective division with an emphasis on the drug problem. That's one of the ways one of the things I'm fostering. I didn't know there any more other resources. Is that an open check after the question?

We've been very blessed with you guys and what we've asked for and what we've given. Uh and Mr. Bake has been really good too to hear us out and and uh we on this next budget here, we do have a handful of things. It's actually cost increases mostly is what's in that budget with the exception of of that detective we just talked about. Um the uh equipment we have new patrol cars that are out there. So you see the dangles on that lease program. Um you have them now. Yeah. Yeah. There's there's a few of them out there. In fact, Councilman Boobar can attest to one of them. Uh

what color are they? They're black and white. A couple of them are detective rides, which of course are unmarked, but we appreciate we definitely don't hesitate to ask or bring anything that we need for or whatever cost, but we appreciate that question. Likewise, you guys do you guys should have a initiation for all the counseling. I go wear the dog suit and catch a dog. We can do that. I think I'm the only one that's done it. We have that and also the taser. You can take your pick. Oh, I don't know about that.

The dog. So, at the end of the month, we have the Drew Cox Memorial K9 uh training that we host. Long story short, who knew Drew being here? Drew, he used to be a one, two, I remember.

All right. Drew uh was a Roosevelt city officer back in the day. Uh he went over and was my assistant chief when I was the chief in Naples uh for quite a few years. When I left and came here, he was the chief. Then he passed away from heart attack in his backyard. He is big on dogs. He helped me with my dog program that we had over in Naples. and he had a little seminar group that that attracted 20 or 30 canine handlers a year that we kind of hosted over in Naples. Since we're no longer there, I have one of the officers that remembers that uh Jared uh Harrison and he has since revitalized that and for the last two years, this is the third year, right? And it's at the end of this month for the week. Uh, and I tell you that because they are catching dogs. But just a side note, starts the 27th and they'll be around town here in Bernal with a bunch of dogs. Just a side note on that. I'm quite impressed with what they do. the state of Utah and the big agencies um West Jordan, Sandy City, uh the Utah State Prison with their dog teams all sent their dogs to Nevada and to Las Vegas to their schools obviously for big. They do not want to go. They want to come to ours

and that's quite a for what these guys or our kind our K9 guys do. In fact, we had to turn down a few dogs because we didn't have the instructors. This is when we land a helicopter too out in the field over here at the high school. Um so this last couple weeks at the Utah Chiefs uh association um conference I get approached by all the chiefs that I associate with telling me how them guys he they tried driving them to go to other if they want to come here. So that peak is that's quite impressive what we do. But if you want to catch a dog, we're catching dogs at the end of the month. Then just find me or find one of the sergeants. You can catch a dog.

So what do you mean by catch dog? You put put the dog on the dog catch you. Well, that's it. The dog. Yeah. I'm listening. You catch the dog. I'm trying to chase her. I don't There'll be a lot of that going on. And they do like they do like fresh meat. So, I can smell the fear. No, that's Do you have any questions for me? Appreciate. Thank you. That's April 27th. Yeah, that's that's the 20 27th 28th 29th.

Very good. Okay, now the uh managers report. Don't worry, it won't take as long as chief. That's an inside joke, by the way.

Um, just as a reminder, ULCT, we won't have city council in two weeks. So, you should have gotten everything from Rock, I'm sure, Cars Hotel and everything, correct? Hopefully. Okay. If not, reach out and we'll get it to you. Um, and then I'm just going to go over just a couple things I'm thinking you'll get phone calls or or questions about. So, little fires. Um, you're all aware of the golf cart situation at the golf course that there's no golf carts allowed. I talked with Mike today kind of get an update on that see where we're sitting in case you get hit up and it's not going to be exactly the 15th. It's going to be depending on the condition of the course. So it it's all but his goal is to be hopefully the week of the 25th um that he'll have cars back on there and be ready for that first tournament. partial 90s depending on the condition but whichever direction support.

Okay. And the course is starting to rebound. You can tell that

that storm just that one storm alone all of a sudden just didn't start growing. So um another thing that's shut down is the gun range we have April 15th but that could change with colog. They're not quite done with what they're doing. So, we may go a little bit further out than that. So, they could extend to the end of April depending on their situation. So, um I'm sure you haven't got phone calls on State Street and the light. Maybe you have the pedestrian crossing project. The light signal there that's controlling traffic. It was delayed at 10 minutes. Now, however, everybody's been getting impatient and just blowing through it and then they come up headto head to the track unit and wonder what's going on. So, this kind of has created a mess. So, they I talked to them today, they've lowered it to six minutes um delayed and I went through it just to kind of see how it was and it's really not that bad. You just got to be patient. So, but I knew that it was 6 minutes

when I've come and gone through there. I just fell through north and work around it and yeah, there's there's other options to get around as well. And they have said that the traffic has slowed down. But I did appreciate them cleaning up for Yeah.

that was nice. I don't I don't know if any of you know this, but after Holy Week, Ryan and I went and tackled there, they had a a hose that was rubbing on a rock that finally blew up. And anyway, we took a few minutes. Luckily, there was another hose that they had. We were able to grab that hose. It was probably took us longer to find the hose than it did to put the hose on. It was 2-minute fix, but we got her done. And so, kudos to Ryan. 2-minute fix and a hour clean up. Yeah. Buddy shoes.

Getting in the mud. I've been in the office too long, so don't save me. You know, you don't have to get dirty. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I did have one here secondary, but Sawyer already mentioned that. So, 15th we're still planning on. Correct. Yes. And then obviously the pre- dump week and kills took care of that. So that's how I had it. Unless you had any questions for me. So nobody. All right. Well, thank you. Thank you. That was quick remark. I'll take notes. Thank

uh committee reports. Anyone with a report? I will just follow up with our Holy Week walk. We had an awesome turnout. A lot of people came. A lot of help from the community. So, it was good. We had live animals. It was awesome.

We we filled the container that the city bought for them with all the things that they need. And so, that was greatly appreciated. And they were just really grateful for the all the support the city gave them. So yeah, I greeting at the front and as we had about it was about a 7 minute recording that they listened to before they went from station to station. While they were sitting and listening to that, each group that came in, I would try and do a head count and it's not 100% accurate, but my unofficial head count was 2,91 people that

actually did that. Now, there were some some that came in from the top and snuck in and then went with a group, but there were people at a different station doing their part and then they'd come go through groups. So, unofficially 2,91 people came through initially what would have been four hours but turned into five easily. So this my opinion this has potential to be a full day possibly leading to two days and then possibly even a Friday night, Saturday and Sunday. So you know it was we did probably the only issue is the wait I would think.

Yeah, people were some people upwards of two hours. They called Kim and got permission from Kim to I was never relate the fact that Kim had given the go-ahad but Kim Harding had the property there to the north of CB&M and we filled that up as well like that's the biggest dilemma is the biggest people

getting people through but yes parking was an issue as well but not really I mean it President had done his part by painting lines and stuff and we didn't have any I mean it's hard to get people to use the crosswalk. I mean they're going to do what they want to do doesn't matter but it was

I that was probably a big thing that but I did have everyone that said oh we you know despite the weight it was worth waiting for. It's awesome project and I think those that participated did a great job. So yeah. Yeah. So thanks for the support on behalf of interface. Good.

I do have um I do have one appointment that I'd like to make tonight to the arts parks and wreck. We had a couple. I did go to the arts, parks, and wreck um committee meeting and uh that will be Chavevel Henley on the arts, parks, and wreck committee. She actually showed up here tonight, but she was headed to another meeting, so I was like, "Don't need to be here. You're good." and she was endorsed by um Wayne Glenn

Glenn Glenn Wayne Labram. Oh yeah, I can see her as I walked in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, very good. And you and I have had some discussions on your golf committee and I don't know if we're ready to get you a committee going or would you like a recommendation on that as well? I just need to know the process to get it started and formed. I I'll hold off then and let's get you what you need first before I think Rowdy has some ideas and he's got some people he knows of that are interested might be a part of that. Yeah, just whatever it takes to get started.

All right. Um, with that, uh, the probably the last thing is with the council, are we are we I'm a little nervous as far as this summer coming up. We've alluded to lack of water. We do have a potential of a lot of wildfires and I think we've had a few callouts already that I don't know how many but there have been several that I do know that we've had called out on wildfires and I've seen them in Fort Chain. I've seen them above Little Mountain um uh Rabola Dougway. That one seemed to be pretty big. But are we interested in any management like emergency management training? myself I am and you know but I don't know if that would be something that maybe Josh and I coordinate and then update the council on or

when you say what is management training you need for the fire department specifically. No, I I'm like wildland fires or any natural disaster that the city I I say fire because that's probably the obvious one that is coming up this summer if it continues to be dry. Yeah, but I you know any type of a wild uh natural disaster training for the city if something was to hit you. Yeah, most entities and

you know utility companies they have those emergency management response plans in place. Um but yeah, yeah, I would coordinate with Josh and see what we have present. I I I would really like it. I mean, I'm I would like to be able to like I say when I go out and I get on a rig or whatever and it's like what can I do to get in your way is how I would feel. You know, trying to help and you're just in the way. So, I would rather be able to help in an emergency situation rather. I'd ask Josh and see what the area has in place and if we need to. Mayor,

if I can ask, are you are you referring just to the city council getting training for or all the staff or just Well, maybe because Duchain County maybe I can say leadership and they decide who in the leadership needs it. Yeah, we we would send a few to Duchain County. They would hold an emergency training once a month and we'd have someone represent the city there. Usually it was Dean and Yeah. And I went too. So Josh Phillips is the one now that that trains those. Okay. I can get with him and and see what Okay. He has on his schedule if you want. Yeah. That helps.

Yeah. I'm I'm just, you know, when we say wildfires in Roosevelt City, we probably within the city probably are not going to have that, but we have a lot of agricultural fields on the edge within the city that, you know, could lead to fires. And you never know, somebody's home burns down and you happen to get a wildfire that starts burning a house and then a house catches another house on fire and pretty soon you have 10 or whatever, you know.

Well, and and to add to that too, you've got something coming up here in a couple months that people like to play with. So, just be thinking ahead on that one as well. I didn't want to say the word, but we all know it's fireworks. Yeah. I burn this all the time, too.

Yeah. Yeah. And I think the county, did they just start a burn restriction? And I think the city adopted it as well, Lee. No burn. No burn at all. Right now in county, right? Correct. And city limits also. That's good to know. That's probably the last thing that I had unless Grant, did you have anything that you needed to discuss?

No, with the just a question on the training you're talking about. Are you thinking like a leadership training? So, uh, I'll u get with you with some statutes and u so you understand how the departments work together and who's in charge. But, uh, Josh Phillips ultimately is the one who is in the leadership position if there's that kind of a fire. Yeah. Well, I'll get the statues together and show you so you understand. Yeah. I mean, I'm I am so brand new that, you know, like I said, what can I do to get in your way? And I would be. So,

it's okay, Mom. I get that every day I work, too. Tell me about it. Yeah, that's okay. With that, I would entertain a motion to adjurnn. I will do that. I have a motion to adjurnn. Got a second. Second. Have a second. All in favor? I agree.