Council - Regular Meeting

Tuesday, September 1, 2026

The Riverton City Council proclaimed September 2026 as Suicide Prevention Month and approved a fireworks permit for high school football games. Key decisions included approving bids for city vehicles and disbanding the PAWS for the Cause Committee after extensive discussion on animal control and shelter services.

About this meeting

Government Body
Council
Meeting Type
Council
Location
Riverton, WY
Meeting Date
September 1, 2026

Transcript

310 sections

5:39 – 7:37Speaker 1

Thank you. . . . Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

8:05 – 8:20Speaker 6

of the Riverton City Council order at 7 p.m. Councilwoman Preston has agreed to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance, after which Councilwoman Borders has agreed to give us the invocation. If everyone could please rise.

8:38 – 9:10Speaker 15

Dear Heavenly Father, we thank you for this opportunity to meet tonight. We ask your guidance as we work together in our efforts to do what's right for our community. Strengthen us as we make tough decisions that are right for our citizens. We ask that you watch over our police and our first responders who protect us every day. Thank you for the many blessings that you have bestowed upon us. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen.

9:19 – 9:34Speaker 6

All right. Finance Director, that was a bit of a... Time warp. Administrative Services Director, Ms. Harris, could you please conduct the roll call?

9:34Speaker 23

Yes, Your Honor. Councilmember Karen Johnson? Here. Councilmember Kyle Larson?

9:39Speaker 23

Councilmember Carla Borders? Here. Councilmember Mike Bailey?

9:43Speaker 23

Councilmember Jerrica Preston? Here. Councilmember Eric Carr?

9:51Speaker 6

I can hear him there.

9:52Speaker 23

I believe he should be joining us, yes.

9:54Speaker 6

Councilman Carr, are you online?

10:00Speaker 17

falling asleep already.

10:05Speaker 6

Well, we'll note that we suspect he is here.

10:11Speaker 23

Mayor Tim Hancock.

10:12Speaker 6

I am here. I declare we have a quorum. I'd entertain a motion to approve the agenda as presented. So moved.

10:22 – 10:41Speaker 6

Motion by Councilman Larson. Second by Councilman Borders. Sorry. So many strange noises today. Any discussion, additions, amendments, subtractions, divisions, multiplications? All in favor say aye.

10:42 – 13:42Speaker 6

Any opposed say nay. Just listening for Councilman Carr. All right. Motion passes. I vote aye. Next up, we have Suicide Prevention Month Proclamation. I think I've done this every time since I've been mayor. This is a good one. Whereas suicide is a serious public health concern that affects individuals, families, friends, schools, workplaces, and communities throughout Wyoming and across the nation. And whereas suicide prevention is a community responsibility. Each of us have the ability to make a difference by reaching out, listening without judgment, offering support, and connecting those who are struggling with appropriate resources. And whereas September is recognized as Suicide Prevention Month, providing an opportunity for the city of Riverton and its residents to raise awareness, reduce stigma surrounding mental health and suicide, promote hope, and encourage meaningful conversations about emotional well-being. And whereas the strength of the Riverton community is reflected in the compassion and willingness of its residents, organizations, schools, health care providers, first responders, faith communities, businesses, local agencies to support one another during times of difficulty. whereas no individual should feel they face a crisis alone. And knowing the warning signs, asking someone how they're doing, listening with compassion, and helping connect them to support can save lives. Whereas we recognize and remember those whose lives have been lost to suicide, support survivors of suicide attempts, and encourage compassion to the families, friends, and loved ones whose lives have been forever impacted by suicide. And whereas we believe that every person in Riverton matters and deserves to know that help is available, that they are valued and that there is hope even during the most difficult circumstances. And whereas during Suicide Prevention Month 2026, the City of Riverton encourages all residents to learn about suicide prevention, check in on friends, family members, coworkers, and neighbors, foster connections, reduce stigma, share resources that can help individuals and families find support. Now, therefore, be it proclaimed that City of Riverton, Wyoming hereby recognizes September 2026 as Suicide Prevention Month. Prevention Month and encourages all residents and members of our community to join together in promoting hope, connection, compassion and suicide prevention. Be it further proclaimed, City of Riverton encourages individuals who are experiencing a mental health or suicide related crisis or who are concerned about someone else to reach out for help and utilize available crisis resources including the 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline available by calling or texting 988. And witness whereof, I have hereunto set my hand and cause the official seal of the city of Riverton, Wyoming to be affixed this first day of September 2026. So we have Tana Groomsmith, who is from the Suicide Prevention Task Force. Anything in particular events that are going on that you'd like to let the citizens of Riverton know about?

13:43Speaker 10

Your Honor, I would like to introduce Carol Harper, who is the newest member of our Suicide Prevention Task Force Board.

13:51Speaker 6

Why don't you come up to the microphone?

13:54Speaker 14

What was the question? I'm just kidding.

13:56Speaker 6

Do we have any events or anything that are going on that you wanted to make sure we know about in terms of Suicide Prevention Month?

14:06 – 14:55Speaker 10

There are currently several suicide awareness and prevention trainings. There is QPR, Question, Persuade, Refer, which is a two-hour training. Talk Saves Lives, which is a four-hour training. There's also youth and adult mental health first aid trainings, both. our eight-hour trainings, and then we will have an assist training, applied suicide intervention skills training, which is actually two full days. They will not all be in this month, but they will be over the course of the next three months. And we will get you all information about that.

14:57Speaker 10

May I introduce Carol, the newest member of the Task Force Board.

15:02 – 16:42Speaker 14

I have actually taken the Suicide Prevention First Aid class, and it's a very excellent class. And also the Mental Health First Aid is also very excellent. As you know, Mayor, Council, I'm Carol Harper, and I myself am a survivor of suicide and domestic violence. I wish I could tell you the number of suicides or suicidal ideation calls that our EMTs are called out to on a monthly, weekly, or daily basis. I can't because of confidentiality and protocols, but what I can tell you is that they are numbers that you would not like to hear. What I can tell you is that there are names, lives connected and associated with those numbers. I can tell you that as a member of the Suicide Prevention Board and as the Project and Outreach and Victim Trauma Coordinator with EMS and MMIP Wind River, the subject of suicide is a difficult, stigmatic subject to talk about, but it does need to be talked about. Most of all, it needs to be understood. I can tell you that the two biggest factors needed for victim survivors of suicide and domestic violence are hope and healing. Do we possess those two things as a community? And as we move forward in what is understood as the reasons and needs, can we be mindful and aware enough to be able to have those tough conversations? I think we need to, and I hope that we can.

16:45Speaker 10

We would like to thank you for the proclamation. Yes. It's very important and, of course, dear to us.

16:54Speaker 14

Yes, and it says it all in that proclamation.

16:57 – 18:55Speaker 6

I thought it was pretty well written. Appreciate you being here and would encourage folks to take it seriously. I had a friend of mine that... would call me regularly and threaten suicide on the phone. It's a little intense to deal with that just in terms of, I don't know the right answers, but I can say that one of the most important things you can do is be a friend to others and check in on them, take seriously when they are in a place where it feels like that's the only way out. And so I appreciate just the simplicity of calling 988. I know a lot of people are worried about calling 911 or whatever. I mean, having a specific lifeline for it I think is important. But I do think one of the most important things is just being able to talk to your friends. And it's a little bit weird. that we have something that takes so many people from us that we just aren't willing to talk about. And we pretend like it doesn't exist. I always find it interesting. In all my years, I have seen one obituary that talked about the way that the person passed being suicide. But I loved the way that they put it, that they said, you know, this person lost their battle with suicide. mental struggles, that kind of thing. They worded it in a very good way because we do talk a lot about people being cancer survivors or losing their battle with cancer or whatever it is. And having so many people taken away from us and you don't even recognize what it is or talk about it for fear like what it's gonna spread. So I think it's important for us to take it seriously, not make light of it, but also be aware of your friends and neighbors and families.

18:58 – 19:54Speaker 17

Your Honor. Yes, sir. Mental illness is improperly funded by all, and that's one option is suicide. We see a lot of that in society nowadays, and we need to do something. The city can't do a lot. The city is not empowered to do it. We don't have the money, et cetera. But we need to realize and make that topic very open and not, you know, hide it. The other one in here is postpartum after having children. That's mental illness also. And that needs to be addressed. Anyway, sorry.

19:55 – 20:14Speaker 6

Well, thank you for being here, ladies. Thank you. And for the work you do. All right. Okay. Moving on. Let me get to the next part. Council Committee Reports, Council Members Roundtable. Councilman Carr, are you on there now?

20:19Speaker 9

I am. Can you hear me?

20:21Speaker 6

Oh, boy, can we.

20:23Speaker 22

So can everyone. Yay!

20:26Speaker 6

There might be some people next door that can hear you, too. Everyone at Domino's is going to be like, I hear a voice.

20:34Speaker 9

I will speak quietly.

20:38Speaker 6

Can you tell me what you've been up to? Just give us a report or roundtable on what's been going on in the life of Councilman Carr.

20:47 – 21:21Speaker 9

Thank you your honor my apologies for being out of state on business. And I appreciate the opportunity to join by zoom. I'll be brief. The only a meeting that I had attended was the youth council meeting. After our regular council meeting, and we will be holding officer elections here in September. coming up here this week. So if you're able to attend, please do and look forward to that and another year with the group. So that's all I have. Thank you.

21:22Speaker 6

Appreciate it. Thank you, Councilman Carr. Councilwoman Preston.

21:26Speaker 12

The only meeting I had since our last meeting was a Riverton Chamber meeting and that was actually pretty beneficial. So that's all I had.

21:35 – 27:05Speaker 19

Okay. Councilman Bailey? Thank you. I did attend the Riverton Valley Recreation Center committee meeting, and again, they've been very busy trying to work out all the details that it would take to get a recreation center here in the community. You know, we've got a long way to go, but we've divided into some groups, and we've looked at the economics and We're looking at different possible land areas to put the center and different funding things that would be available. And so it's a huge project, but we want to thoroughly investigate it and see if it's something that we can't pull off. I think it's a very broad spectrum of the citizens that really would like a recreation center here. And the trick's gonna be just if we can find the money to build it and operate it and do all that, I think it would be a great asset to the community and give people a lot of things they could do. And so we're busy working on that. There's about 15 people on that committee that are all doing their piece for that. So it's very productive. Earlier in the month I did go down to Cheyenne to the local government liability pool of which I'm on the board and that is the city and many other government agencies in Wyoming's liability provider. So that's always interesting to get input from the other communities and the things that pop up there and so it's helpful. to know where the liability spots are that we need to really be careful about. And of course, it's human resources and trying not to run over people with snow plows and all those kind of things that go on that we gotta be careful of. We're running big equipment and it's big and heavy and dangerous and so we just have to be careful and try to prevent accidents and injuring people and all of that kind of stuff. It's a very interesting board that I'm on and I appreciate being able to do that. I did attend the force committee meeting again earlier in the month and again they're busy this summer doing Riverview and the slurry seal project and concrete replacement and so I think those things are progressing pretty well. uh... they've started the process again of looking at next year and the things that we might have on our list of projects and so i would encourage the public to let us know that committee's very open to having people come and visit or you can probably talk to public works if you have an area that you think needs work And so they prioritize all that and again we take the money that we get from the one cent sales tax, the force committees, I forget what it's called exactly, but the one cent tax that we have, the fifth cent, and that money all goes to the county and then they divide it up by population and so Riverton gets a portion of that and we have the force committee here that goes out and very frugal bunch of people that look at projects and what we should do and all of that kind of stuff. My only complaint is they did slurry seal up in my area of town, and then Visionary Communications came and painted lines all over the place because they were locating for the fiber. So they painted green and yellow and red lines all over our nice pretty black street. I also got a chance to meet with Congressman Hageman, when she was in town here a week or so ago, they were all here for the debates, the CWC public radio debates, and I got to meet with candidate Barlow and Congressman Hageman, and so that was very informative, and that was right before the primary, so they did very well. After that I left for Alaska to go pick up my granddaughter, who's staying with her dad up there, and so we got to go up to Alaska for a week, and it rained about four out of the five days that we were up there, so that was very pleasant. It was a nice reprieve from the warm weather we've had here this summer. And then I see that the airport project, Taxiway D runway improvement project is in full swing. They're up there rotomilling and getting ready to replace and digging up power lines to fix the lighting problem that we've fought at the airport for many, many years, so it's gonna be nice to get that solved and taken care of and operating. And again, it's encouraging to see the employment numbers that we have at the airport. It's holding steady, so we're right on par to be where we were last year. which was about 25,700 people, got on the airplane to go visit somewhere. And, of course, most of them came back, too. So it was great. Thank you very much. That's all I have.

27:06Speaker 6

Great. Thank you. Councilwoman Borders, how are you?

27:11Speaker 16

I'm fabulous. Good. You look fabulous. Well, thank you.

27:15Speaker 6

What's going on in your life?

27:17Speaker 16

I'm glad I came here tonight.

27:19Speaker 6

Somebody had to tell you.

27:21 – 28:42Speaker 16

I guess. Well, let's see. We'll start with the reason I missed the last meeting on August 18th was Election Day. I've been working as an election judge since 2010. So it's been a while, and it was a great turnout. I'm hoping for a better turnout in November. It's always great to see people. I get to work in Shoshone since I'm elected office here in Riverton, so I see people that I haven't seen in a long time. I won't say how long. But I really haven't had any other meetings. The rec board, I believe, meets next week. I did want to mention the Paws and Pearls, though. It's coming up, Paws and Pearls, September 12th. It's a speakeasy theme, so it's 1920s. I'm excited to see what everybody shows up wearing, and there's gonna be wine tasting, costume contests, I think. silent auction, live auction. So if you are interested in tickets, you can get a hold of anybody that is involved with PAWS on the board or if they work there. Tickets are $50 a piece, or they do have tables available, too. I'm not sure the price is on that. But that is all of that.

28:43Speaker 6

Okay. Thank you.

28:45Speaker 6

Councilman Larson, you look fabulous, too, by the way.

28:50Speaker 17

Thank you Harold.

28:52Speaker 22

You're welcome.

28:56 – 30:00Speaker 17

I have not attended any meetings, but I've traveled Wyoming and hit the high spots, Yellowstone, Yellowstone at Lake Lodge, Yellowstone, Yellowstone Lodge, and had dinner there. But the most important thing was my trip to Jackson last week was the pinnacle where we got to see young buffalo the side of the road and there were no patch marks on these Buffalo because they were not throwing tourists as they do in Yellowstone but they were thinking about it Jackson Hole is live and well and very busy And my wife went there for cataract surgery, and it was successful. But let me tell you, it is something else. That place is alive. That's all I have.

30:01Speaker 6

Thank you. Councilwoman Johnson, you also look fabulous.

30:06Speaker 11

I was going to be really offended if you didn't say something.

30:10Speaker 6

These two, and I haven't even seen Councilman Carr yet today, so I don't know. He could be in pajamas right now.

30:19 – 30:46Speaker 11

Obviously, he doesn't look fabulous. I didn't have any scheduled meetings. I've had plenty of meetings in the last week, but most of it's been playing catch up from the week that I was gone. So I don't have anything to really report on. I am thankful that we're having a discussion about the electric scooters next week. Still receiving a lot of correspondence about that. So I'm glad that we'll be able to discuss that next week.

30:48 – 31:03Speaker 6

Didn't we just have a DUI via electric scooter or what was it, Chief? Okay. I might say more about that later when we discuss electric scooters.

31:03Speaker 11

There's a lot going on with it. Yeah. I'm glad primaries are over. I'll say it. I'm glad it's all done.

31:11Speaker 6

I think everybody is. Yeah.

31:15Speaker 11

I have so much more room in my mailbox now.

31:18Speaker 6

I feel like nobody likes me anymore. I'm not getting anything.

31:21Speaker 11

I'll send you a hate mail. We'll keep it going. That's all I have.

31:27Speaker 6

Mr. Butterfield, let us know what's going on with city staff, please.

31:32 – 35:37Speaker 5

Thank you, Your Honor. A few points just from logistics to let the public know about upcoming meetings. There will be a Fix Our Road Citizen Committee meeting on September 13th at 11 o'clock. That's in the bullpen area, and members of the public are always welcome to attend that, especially in the sense that we want to receive their feedback. The committee wants to receive their feedback about infrastructure needs throughout the community. There will not be a planning commission meeting held this Thursday, and Mr. Michaud's department will be sure to communicate when the next planning commission meeting will be held when there's business before that body. And it was just mentioned, but a reminder to folks that the work session is scheduled for next Tuesday, and the start time for that is 6 p.m. There will be two items on the agenda, the first of which is addressing electric bikes and electric scooters, and the second will address our property violation and abatement code as it relates to drop-off centers and allow the council to have discussion on that matter. Staff was recently able to attend a public open house sponsored by the Wyoming Department of Transportation. It was held in Lander. This is part of the rollout that the Aeronautics Division for the Department of Transportation performed for the economic impact study. That study denoted that there is a $3.4 billion economic impact across the entire state of Wyoming because of the commercial and general aviation airports that are here in the state. There will be deliverables and more materials available, but this was a good kickoff opportunity for YDOT to interact with the public, have their consultant explain the methodology of the study. But Mr. Ransom and myself will have opportunity to ensure that those materials and deliverables are available to anyone in our community who would like to see them. We're happy to report that the Community Development Department is fully staffed. Mr. Michaud has been hard at work at replacing some of our long-term employees and other employees that we really appreciated having, but they found other opportunities. And today he is back to being fully staffed and we're happy for him in that regard. Though I'm sure he's looking forward to the day when he's not constantly doing onboarding. The police department will be doing physical tests next week for applicants for the patrol positions that are vacant. We hope to find new and engaged applicants as we continue to strengthen our police force. I'd like to note that we are still waiting for approval of a couple grants that we have submitted, the first of which is related to police officer staffing. That's the COPS grant. We're hoping that the word will come down from the federal government this month. and let us know if the two additional positions that we requested in that grant are approved. We're also waiting on word for our CSO grant and our opportunity to continue that very successful program that Chief Hurtado stood up for our department. As it relates to other grant opportunities, It's important to note that by our policy, we do not seek grants without the council's approval or at least consent. The police department had opportunity to seek a grant from the National Rifle Association. It is one of the smaller grants, but it's going to help us with the procurement of ammunition and supplies for our shooting range. It will be in the amount of roughly $1,000. We've gone after this grant in the past, but pursuant to our goals, we want to make sure you're aware that we're submitting that, and if there are any issues, we can pull it back. But I assume it would be your will that we continue with that grant.

35:38Speaker 6

Anybody have an issue with seeking an NRA grant? I think we're good.

35:44 – 38:35Speaker 5

Thank you. And I do commend our police department for the active manner in which they're seeking funds from several sources to support the service they provide. Along that line, the Public Works Department submitted today a request for an additional 2.63 million in funding from the Wyoming Water Development Office. This is a part of the funding proposal that we, or package maybe is a better way to put it, for the upcoming Main Street Water Line project. If you remember, we sought funds from the Water Development Office to the tune of about 5.17 million. and we also receive funds through the State Loan and Investment Board. We learned recently that there is more funding available and we were encouraged by the office to submit a request for additional funds. We didn't bring this before the council because this additional request of 2.63 million that we're making is actually part of the original resolution that the council passed. What happened is the office awarded us less than what we had applied for, but now we have a chance to go after all that we applied for, if that makes sense. So this still falls within the authority that you had previously granted via resolution. And I commend the Public Works Department in working with the office to be as aggressive as possible in ensuring we have as much available in funding to support that important project on Main Street. The Willow Creek improvement project for Safe Routes to School will begin next week. You'll notice that it will mostly be exploratory excavation and the larger efforts to install the sidewalk and curb and gutter will not occur for at least another couple weeks. That includes mostly shoulder work as storm drain improvements are made, curb and gutter, and sidewalk. So it should not impact traffic or folks that are taking their children to school or to soccer games this time of year. It was already mentioned that the Taxiway Delta project is underway. The electrical canisters are being replaced and updated and we are excited that that's happening. That project is supported with federal and state dollars in addition to the local dollars that were approved in the budget. I'm checking my list and I think that covers my update, but there is one last thing that I'd like to mention. I'm really happy that Mr. Bruce Ransom is here this evening because I want to recognize him. Mr. Ransom recently received the airport accreditation through the airport executive American

38:38Speaker 6

What is that acronym? AAE, Accredited Airport Executive. Thank you.

38:42 – 39:38Speaker 5

Through AAAE. I'm so used to saying the acronyms that I tripped up on what it actually meant. But I hope it doesn't take away from the prestige of what Mr. Ransom has gone through. I can say unequivocally that receiving the AAAE designation is one of the hardest designations to receive in the airport industry. Not only does it require extensive study and experience, it requires a research paper, it requires a test, and then also standing before a board and answering questions. It is the gold bar or gold standard of accreditation, and we're really fortunate to have someone on our team that has gone through that process, which has taken several years. And I just wanna highlight Mr. Ransom for going through that and congratulate him. With that, Your Honor, I have nothing else and would stand for questions.

39:39 – 43:42Speaker 6

Thank you. Congratulations, Bruce. Thank you. If he wasn't going to say it, I was going to. Mike and I were up here. We were ready. Thank you, Your Honor. I even had to look up the acronym because I wanted to make sure I got it right. That's good work. It's not... It's not that easy to go through and get accreditation and make sure you're getting recognition from your peers. And you've been doing a lot of good work up there at the airport, certainly. Yeah, it's been good. All right, a couple of things then. First off, I've had the opportunity and I don't think I've reported yet that this has started. I had said I was going to do it, but we have started the Law Enforcement Academy at CWC. That started last Monday. Have eight students in our first class, group of cadets. What would you call them? Cadre? Class? Class. We'll call it a class. And they're from across Wyoming. We've got some that are, of course, we've got three from Riverton, so I'm familiar with them, and I make fun of them regularly. And I give them extra work. No, I don't give them extra work. But we have three from Riverton, we have one from Green River, two from Glen Rock, and two from, oh, I can't, it's Wheatland, it's gotta be Wheatland, yeah. And very good group of students, very attentive, very... Just excellent, excited for what this is gonna offer and appreciate that CWC is leading the charge on that and certainly appreciate that we got Travis Bartlett who's the new director over there and then we have Andy Hanson who's been one of the other instructors and Pete McCall from RPD is also one of the firearms instructors and Dwight McGuire. who you may know that name because we have Ambry McGuire, who's one of our officers. And I just found out the other day that's her dad. And he's one of the instructors over there too. So very good group of people that are doing the Law Enforcement Academy. FCAG, we just had a meeting. We are looking for an EMS director. So it's getting real in terms of where things are going to be going. So to be transitioning from the county doing ambulance to FCAG taking that over. One of the first things we're gonna be doing is having an ad out for an EMS director. So if you know someone who fits that, encourage them to apply. Let's see. Of course, very excited about election day being over. Also very excited that the three-quarter cent tax passed. I know that's something that people have been concerned about. One of the things that I would encourage is that rather than just dismissing concerns that have been expressed, I think looking at it as an opportunity to increase and make sure that we're being very transparent. That was one of the criticisms of the previous tax. So however we handle it, whether it's through FCAG or the Riverton City Council that we are very careful to make sure that whatever we're doing is being very transparent to the community about how funds are being spent. On that note as well, it's my understanding that we're gonna need bridge funding. I don't know, I wanted to think of a better fun word that's an airport kind of word. but I can't think of anything better than the bridge funding. Is there something better that we could be using for that, Mr. Butterfield?

43:42Speaker 5

We need to extend the runway. Extend the runway. That's good.

43:46 – 44:19Speaker 6

But the reality is we're not going to start collecting the three-quarter cent tax until either March or April. So that means... We already have known that we're running out of runway here soon, so being able to extend it, my understanding, you're going to be speaking to the county commissioners, going to be speaking to the Lander City Council, and have any unobligated half, or yes, half-cent fund money that would go towards that. So hopefully that goes well.

44:21Speaker 19

Just a little correction. The tax actually goes into effect January 1.

44:26Speaker 19

But by the time we get a first check, it will take two or three months before that happens.

44:31 – 45:19Speaker 6

That's correct. Yep. They don't. And as a matter of fact, we still were collecting some of that even not recently, recently, but sometimes it takes a while for funds to get trickle into the state for whatever reason. So. uh... that's it for my report though i think i would say we have some folks here from the youth council so we encourage you to come up and let us know if you have anything that you want to report on maybe come up and tell us your names not your full name just your first and last name maybe uh... we don't need your social security number i'm royce hancock and Well, you guys can introduce yourselves.

45:20Speaker 1

I always introduce myself.

45:21Speaker 3

I'm Caitlin Bauer. I'm Capri Miller.

45:26 – 46:49Speaker 1

Yeah. So we're just like, we're very happy once again to be in front of you guys or the council again. A lot of very important things that we've been talking about and a lot of cool things that are going to be happening. More particular stuff that hopefully these guys can touch on. We will be setting up, we have re-elections that will be happening for the different chair positions or the different officer positions. And hopefully we will get that done. That'll be tomorrow. And... it'll kind of be a good way to be like hey it's the first term over and it's kind of a year that we've been able to be a part of this program so with that i would like to say thank you because this program has been able to run it's been able to do well and we've actually been able to have a lot of really cool things happen thanks to the council and i'm very glad it that opportunity and I hope that it can continue to go on for many more years to come and I'm very glad that we survived a year. That's always grateful. It's also I wasn't able to be there but at the last council meeting we did get a new member and that was really nice. We got Kira House and I'm glad to see how things go moving forward with that. That's all that I have to say but I'll leave it to you.

46:49 – 47:05Speaker 6

Very fun to have Kira here. She came in here. We had four generations of her family that were here all together to encourage her and everything. That was a lot of fun. They were all from Riverton, too. Ms. Bauer?

47:07 – 48:05Speaker 13

So at our last few meetings, we've been able to fill the spots that former Youth Council Member Pearson left on his committees. I also made a list of all of our committees so everyone's able to see which ones they're on. It just keeps everything organized. And one thing that Youth Council Member Thacker brought up was creating standing committees. So we have committees that are more ongoing and are less specific. They're more broad. and so we were thinking about maybe making some of our officer positions like they have committees with them and so then other youth council members are able to do that job and see how it works and it's not just one person doing everything for it but the officer would obviously be the chair of that committee and so since our elections are tomorrow we're probably not going to make any of those committees until after them so we don't like have a new member and then they automatically have a whole different committee that they have. So we're gonna wait until after to do any action with that. That's all I have.

48:06Speaker 6

Great, thank you. Ms. Miller?

48:09 – 49:11Speaker 3

Okay, so at the last city council meeting that we addressed that youth council member Thacker approached the Mercy House and was asking if there was any way to volunteer and got some contact information for us. And we actually, I got in contact with them And so we are doing like a citywide like hygiene drive for them. I think we're putting up posters in a few days, but I've contacted some businesses and have some boxes. So we're going to get that started September 11th or 12th. and then it'll go on for two weeks and it has like a list of some things that they specifically need and then just says like and more so anything that people are willing to donate they can come put them in these boxes and then we are trying to get it up on our social media right now and contact some other people to like put it up on the social media and yeah yeah that's it for me

49:11Speaker 6

All right, good. That sounds great. Do you know what kinds of hygiene, what you're needing in the hygiene kits?

49:19 – 49:30Speaker 3

I know like they need like trash bags and dish soap is more like not as much hygiene, but then just like shampoo, conditioner, body wash, things like that. Yeah.

49:32Speaker 16

Your Honor, do you have any idea where your boxes will be located?

49:37 – 50:03Speaker 3

Yeah, I know like... here probably, and then I've talked with Cindy, and she said we could do the chamber, and then I've talked with some other businesses, so like Murdoch's, Sutherland's, Forest and Fawn Bookstore, and a couple other ones that I can't think of off the top of my head. So yeah, we've got a couple locations like throughout this city, so people in different areas can go.

50:03 – 50:18Speaker 6

There's a lot of people up here that work at a lot of different places that might be willing to have you put them there too. I'm just saying, and I'm leaving it open for them to volunteer too. That was me kind of.

50:18Speaker 12

I will step up and say that the Hampton would host one for you too.

50:22Speaker 3

Okay, that would be great. I'll contact you.

50:29Speaker 16

Sounds good.

50:30Speaker 6

Sounds good.

50:31 – 50:53Speaker 16

Your Honor, I just want to say to Royce that you talk about how the council has helped make this happen. Well, without you guys, I mean, you've done a phenomenal job and I think you should all pat yourselves on the back because you're really, you're showing what the youth can do and I love it. Thank you.

50:55Speaker 6

Councilwoman Johnson.

50:57 – 51:12Speaker 11

I just had a question. I don't know if there's... I had heard that you guys may have had a hand in some cleanup efforts down in the All Nations Trailer Park. Did you guys help with that? I don't know. Wasn't it you?

51:13Speaker 1

It may have been an individual effort by somebody, but... Another committee?

51:18Speaker 3

We'd help with so far as the rotary cleanup. That was a couple months back, a few months back.

51:24 – 51:48Speaker 11

I might have been a part of it. I don't know. But you guys were mentioned, and I was just going to echo a big thank you from that area. A couple of the residents had reached out and were very impressed. So thank you for what you guys are doing. It is. It's good to see them doing positive things. And you guys have rocked the first year. You set some high standards. So good job.

51:49 – 52:52Speaker 6

It's a very good point. Yeah. Well, like I had said when you were first sworn in, right? You're the foundation for it. So you're going to be the ones that are the first members of it. And people are going to look back in years from now and you'll look back years from now. I mean, heck, even Kira, right? She could get older, she could have kids, and they might serve on the council. So it's just kind of fun to be able to look forward to where things can go in the future. And you're setting that foundation and that expectation in terms of what you're doing, and you're doing great work. So keep up the good work. Definitely reach out to us with any questions or things that we can help with. And I mean, we're meant to be resources from you. If you need something else from Councilman Carr, just let me know and I'll, try to convince him whatever you need him to do. I'm, I'm kidding. I just wanted to give him a hard time. Okay. Thank you. Appreciate you being here.

52:53 – 53:44Speaker 1

Well, and, uh, kind of with that, um, There are going to be some more changes, especially with these re-elections coming up. There may be some pretty big changes to how things go or how things work, but I think it is kind of important that we do recognize that throughout this first year, there have been things that we've been able to do and the leadership has been able to step up and really been able to do wonderful things. And I think like in the council alone, you guys are definitely right. Maybe we should give ourselves a little bit more of credit for how things have been going. You guys definitely have been kind of an inspiration for how we should do things, what we should do, and the impacts that we should make. So still very grateful for the way that the council has been able to support us with that.

53:45 – 53:57Speaker 6

Great. All right. Well, thank you. Thank you for being here. Thank you for your report. Anything else? No. Okay. Keep up the good work. All right.

53:57Speaker 1

Thank you. Cool. Appreciate it.

54:01 – 54:53Speaker 6

All right, next up on the agenda, we have communication from the floor, citizens' comments. I've decided to try to simplify this, because I end up talking for like five minutes about what we want you to do. So here's the simple explanation. If there's something on the agenda that you wanna talk about, get my attention and cut them up during the agenda item. If there's something that's not on the agenda you wanna talk about, now would be the time to do it. Try to keep your comments to five minutes. If you're an individual, 10 minutes. If you're a part of a group, split it up. And just try to make sure we keep good decorum during the meeting without having it turn into a ruckus. I don't know, a fracas? We could have any other kind of us words. So, if you'd like to come up and speak, now would be the time. Just let us know your name and group you're with.

55:12 – 57:36Speaker 2

Good evening, Mayor and Council. I'm Cindy Olsen-Rhoden with the Riverton Chamber and Visitor Center. For those viewing, I do want to say I'm really happy about the proclamation tonight. We just recently onboarded the Fremont County Suicide Prevention Task Force as a nonprofit member in July, and we're happy to be able to support them. The proclamation and the task force is near to my own heart, so that means a lot. We had a really busy August at the chamber. Lots of ribbon cuttings, I think four, and lunch and learn and our annual after hours at the career center with the RHS activities and that was a huge success. Again next year hoping to get even more businesses to attend that and see what our youth are doing. Another thing we're working on right now is we're in our second year with the Agriculture Appreciation Banquet. Last year they asked if the chamber would come back in and help with that. So I'm on the committee organizing, getting that going. That's October 24th. And I'm really excited for our Lunch and Learn this Friday. As you see the first flyer on the top, we'll have our very own Helen Wilson. CEO at the Wind River Visitors Council, talking about the lodging tax, which will be on the ballot this November, and it's the tax we do not pay, so we're gonna do a little educating on that, but what she's mostly gonna talk about is how the money captures visitor dollars and its reinvestment to attract more visitors that strengthens our economy. So it'll be a very good lunch and learn. And then we've got our after hours on the 24th, which is the second flyer. That will be out at the Riverton Country Club sponsored by 307 Financial Services, 307 Bar and Grill, and our nonprofits will be the Wind River Cultural Centers Foundation, which is the museum foundation, and the Riverton Rotary. So should be a really good after hours as well. And that's about all I have. Working on lots of things right now, so.

57:38Speaker 6

Well, appreciate you. Keep up the good work.

57:40Speaker 2

Thanks. Thank you.

57:47 – 58:00Speaker 6

Anyone else? Okay. Ms. Harris, Administrative Services Director, if you could please read the consent agenda items by title only. Okay.

58:03 – 58:31Speaker 23

yes your honor minutes of the august eighteenth twenty twenty six regular council meeting minutes of the september first twenty twenty six finance committee meeting and finance committee recommendations from september first twenty twenty six and and let's see who chaired the finance committee tonight mister bailey what are the what was the recommendation is your honor of the committee recommended passing of the consideration of claims to be paid in the amount of two hundred eighteen thousand three hundred fifty eight dollars and fifty two cents

58:32 – 59:01Speaker 19

Payroll and liabilities for 821 of 26 in the amount of $516,664.34 for a total of $735,022.86. And then was there also TAD funding that was discussed and approved as well? Yes, the reimbursement for expenses for the Rendezvous Balloon Committee for $10,000. It was approved in that also.

59:02Speaker 6

All right. I'd entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda as presented.

59:07Speaker 16

So moved. Second.

59:10Speaker 6

Councilwoman Borders with the motion. Councilwoman Preston with the second. Any other discussion? All in favor say aye.

59:21 – 59:55Speaker 6

Aye. Any opposed say nay. I vote aye. Motion passes. Public hearing in consideration. Fireworks permit application. Fremont County School District, number 25, where we have some... Well, not some people, a person. What's that? I know. Had some students here that might have been a good representation of... September 11th, September 18th, October 2nd, October 23rd, October 30th, and November 6th. So Ms. Harris, could you tell us more about that item?

59:56 – 1:00:42Speaker 23

Yes, Your Honor. The Riverton City Clerk's Office received an event application from Max Mills with the Riverton High School requesting the use of a cannon and fireworks for their home varsity football games and postseason games. The application has been filled out in its entirety. It is also accompanied by a letter of support from Chief Jesse Cassidy of the Riverton Fire Department who did suggest, yes, that they would be in favor endorsing the use of fireworks. The fire department will not be on site during the events, and there was just a clause for suggestion that if the weather conditions are unfavorable that they withhold from offsetting fireworks on that day. The application is complete and staff would turn it over to the council for approval.

1:00:43 – 1:01:14Speaker 6

Thank you. We'd have to start with the public hearing on that. So I'd entertain a motion to open the public hearing regarding the fireworks permit application. Motion by Councilman Larson, second by Councilman Bailey. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed say nay. I vote aye. Motion passes. I declare the public hearing open. Caring will be conducted in accordance with state statutes and other applicable laws. Anyone who wishes to speak about this item, if you could please come up, tell us your name and what you think about it.

1:01:20 – 1:02:07Speaker 7

I will be as brief as possible. We did this last year, it was approved last year. It added an incredible bit of atmosphere to the game. Crowd loved it, players absolutely loved it. We have Jake Tyra as a licensed pyrotechnics, lighting off fireworks, and then Samuel Doc Holloway setting off the cannon. They both do an incredible job and are extremely safe as they do it. And we take seriously the recommendation from the fire department about, strong winds or adverse weather, we won't be lighting off those fireworks. So definitely appreciate your consideration on this particular application and look forward to hopefully being able to do that again this year.

1:02:08Speaker 6

Thank you, appreciate it.

1:02:17Speaker 6

And this is gonna help them win, is the idea.

1:02:20Speaker 7

It worked well last year. It did, I thought it helped.

1:02:24Speaker 6

I mean, as a start to the game, it was a ton of fun to have the fireworks.

1:02:28Speaker 7

I loved it. And the cold spark machine, which doesn't require a permit, but that also added a nice layer as well.

1:02:37 – 1:02:51Speaker 6

Yeah, I agree. Well, good. It's great. Okay, thank you, appreciate you. Anyone else? entertain a motion to close the public hearing.

1:02:52Speaker 19

So moved. Second.

1:02:54Speaker 6

Motion by Councilman Bailey, second by Councilwoman Borders. All in favor say aye.

1:03:01 – 1:03:12Speaker 6

Any opposed say nay. I vote aye. Motion passes. Declare the public hearing closed. I'd entertain a motion to approve the fireworks permit application as indicated.

1:03:12Speaker 15

So moved. Second.

1:03:15Speaker 6

I do not know who that was. Was that you, Councilwoman Johnson? I almost called you Councilwoman Karen.

1:03:21Speaker 1

Councilwoman.

1:03:23Speaker 11

Whatever works, I answer to a lot.

1:03:25Speaker 6

Well, it was like in stereo, and I was not sure where it was coming from.

1:03:29Speaker 11

It just means we sound good.

1:03:30Speaker 6

Yeah. Look fabulous, sound fabulous. And Councilwoman Preston, you do too.

1:03:37Speaker 12

Listen, you don't have to say it now. Suck up now.

1:03:42Speaker 6

And Councilman Bailey.

1:03:44Speaker 12

It's too late. Moments passed.

1:03:51Speaker 6

Any other discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed say nay. Motion passes. Good to go.

1:04:02Speaker 6

Consideration of bid, water treatment plant operations truck. Let's see now. Who is reporting on this one?

1:04:09Speaker 11

Your Honor, can we take a break before we get into that?

1:04:12 – 1:13:28Speaker 6

We could do that, do we wanna do that right now? Okay, let's do it. We take a break and then we'll come back to you. You can get it all ready to go. We'll go ahead and take a recess at 7.56, we'll just take a recess until 8.05. 805. Chief, we don't have Gary yet. Well, we can go. We're back in session for the September 1st, 2026 regular meeting of the Riverton City Council calling back to order at 905. Mr. Carr, are you back?

1:13:32Speaker 9

I am, Your Honor, thank you.

1:13:34 – 1:13:53Speaker 6

Okay, thank you. And the volume is much better than it was before. All right, so consideration of bid, water treatment plant operations truck. And I was just saying, who do we have on the report for this?

1:13:54Speaker 4

I'm Eric Wimber. I'm the chief operator at the water plant. I get emails to you sometimes, Eric.

1:14:00Speaker 6

Yes, I think I got one today, actually. I did, actually, yep. And I forwarded it to Kyle because I was like, just want to make sure I'm not the only one in the loop.

1:14:10 – 1:17:26Speaker 4

Go ahead, Eric. Thank you, Mayor and Council. So the background on this report, During the fiscal year planning for fiscal year 2027, the city council authorized the purchase of a new service truck for the water treatment plant at the request of the public works department. You guys budgeted 80,000 for the total project. And that includes the procurement of the vehicle and purchase and installation of the required equipment, including a snow plow and a lift gate. State statute requires that the purchase of any vehicle be competitively bid. The bid was advertised from August 8th to the 24th. and bid opening was held on the 24th. We did receive two bids. They're listed below. Fremont Motor Company Lander bid a Ford pickup for the price of $67,437.99, and Fremont GMC, that's a Chevy, $67,596. The Ford price vehicle did come back $158.01, less than the GM. However, there was one note that they were non-responsive in the bid. We specified cloth seats. They have vinyl in there. That was the only thing that was missed in the bid. It will be. I forgot to touch on that. We're replacing a 2014 Ram half-ton pickup that we have. It has 115,000 miles on it, and we lucked out with it. Every other department that had it that year, they replaced engines at 80,000 miles in those. We didn't have to do that, but we have put a new transmission in it, and we're having issues with... their bag lights and things like that as well the new truck being a three-quarter time it'll give us the ability to uh... snowplow our lot and booster station and well sites we haven't been able to do that for years since our little tractor we had died so we've been hiring out uh... plowing every year Of course, not last year, didn't snow, but. So it'll allow us to do that, and then the Tommy lift is used for chlorine bottle changes at the well houses. They're pretty heavy, so we don't want our operators who may or may not be getting older lifting too much heavy things.

1:17:27Speaker 6

May or may not be getting older.

1:17:29Speaker 4

May or may not.

1:17:30Speaker 19

Hopefully they are getting older.

1:17:32Speaker 6

Yeah, there's only one alternative to that.

1:17:37 – 1:18:03Speaker 4

Or weaker, maybe. I don't know what the best word would be. So it's our recommendation based on Fremont Motor Company Lander with the one item that was... spec'd in wrong that we move forward with the Fremont GMC pickup.

1:18:06 – 1:18:39Speaker 6

Okay. And I think that's about all I have. So the Fremont GMC was responsive in all respects. The Fremont Motor Company lander was non-responsive in regards to the seats. Motor size wasn't non-responsive, but it is just important to note that we've got a 7.3 liter versus a 6.6 liter. And then the gross vehicle weight rating for the Ford was 10,000. Well, the GMC was 10,650, huh?

1:18:40Speaker 4

And I think it's important to note that they did both meet the minimum specs on that, so that's kind of a non-issue. But yeah.

1:18:52 – 1:20:11Speaker 5

Your Honor, I can help with that. So after the report was compiled and put in the packet, further conversation was held with Public Works Director Mr. Coleman, and we reviewed the bid specifications and found that those two items, as it relates to the gross vehicle weight, and the engine were not items that I think the council could use to determine whether or not one bid was responsive or the other bid was responsive. Both met the minimum requirements of the bid specification. So while it is listed in your packet, I appreciate Mr. Winberg clarifying that the only non-responsive item as it relates to the Ford bid was that the bid spec'd cloth seats and the Ford bid supplied vinyl seats. So the recommendation is not to go with the low bid, but with the high bid, that's $158.01 difference. You as a council have the ultimate authority by statute to determine where this bid should go. But from a standpoint of what is responsive and not responsive, I think Mr. Wimber has accurately portrayed that. And at this point, you as a council have opportunity to choose which of the bids you feel are most responsive for the needs of the city.

1:20:11 – 1:20:31Speaker 6

Okay. Anything else for Mr. Wimber? Chief Operator Wimber? Just Eric's fine. All right. Thank you. Appreciate it. I entertain a motion. For either one, where are we at? Where's the council at? Yes.

1:20:31Speaker 19

I would move that we accept the bid from Fremont GMC in Riverton for the three-quarter ton GMC pickup.

1:20:42 – 1:21:00Speaker 6

Okay, and that's the $67,596 unit price. Okay, motion by Councilman Bailey, second by Councilwoman Borders. Any other discussion on that? All in favor, say aye.

1:21:02 – 1:21:13Speaker 6

Any opposed, say nay. Aye vote aye. Motion passes. Next up, we have a sanitation truck, and this one is Mr. Staley, who I didn't recognize, but I'm glad you're here.

1:21:14 – 1:22:57Speaker 8

Glad to be here. Well, Mr. Mayor, members of the council, I'm Colin Staley, operations division manager. Excuse me. And so under big consideration is a refuse truck that was approved with the fiscal budget of 27. He approved $420,000 for the purchase of this vehicle. The truck that will be replacing is a 2010 Mac. We're starting to have some issues with those. This one has over 10,000 hours on it. And per state statute, the bid was advertised at the beginning of August on August 8th and closed on August 24th, the bid's opening on the 24th. There was two bids, um, Jackson Peterbilt group, $423,421. And, uh, one from Floyd's truck for $453,013. And that one is actually non-responsive on a few items. Um, so the staff proposes that the city award the bid, uh, Jackson group, Peterbilt and Casper for $423,421. If awarded, the extra $3,421 in funds would come from another capital project in the sanitation fund that has not yet been awarded. The sanitation fund has nine projects approved in various stages of work and improvement. Those projects are on your packet. If you want, I can go over, but it's looking like the fleet shop air compressor was where that would come from at this point. I think that's about all I have on that.

1:22:58 – 1:23:33Speaker 6

Okay, thank you, appreciate it. Any questions? All right, I'd entertain a motion to award the bid for the new cab forward refuse truck From the Jackson Group Peterbilt, $423,421 even. So moved. Motion by Councilman Larson, second by Councilwoman Johnson. Any other discussion on those? All in favor say aye.

1:23:36Speaker 17

Governor, one question. Will this truck be able to be serviced here locally at the Peterbilt place across from Mike's?

1:23:48 – 1:24:12Speaker 8

Yes, sir, this truck will be able to be serviced here. That was one of the bid specs was that at least all warranty work on the chassis side of it has to be within 30 miles, be able to be warrantied within 30 miles, and that's where the auto car from Floyd's did not meet that spec. As far as the engines, Cummins, so that there's plenty of availability for Cummins engines to be worked on within the area.

1:24:12Speaker 17

Yeah, we've got several.

1:24:14Speaker 8

As far as like the actual trash body, unless it's something we do in-house, that's pretty much kind of goes out or to a fab shop.

1:24:26Speaker 17

Cool. Thank you.

1:24:27 – 1:25:18Speaker 6

Any opposed? All right. I vote aye. Motion passes. Thank you, appreciate you both being here. You're welcome to stick around. I'm not saying you have to leave. Do whatever Kyle tells you to do. If he says you have to stay here and look pretty, I don't know. Your Honor, they're welcome to leave if they'd like. Always good to put faces to names. Eric, I've gotten enough emails from you. I don't know if we've actually sat down and talked. So I feel bad because you've been there a little bit. I mean, anyway. All right. Okay, Airport Cafe, lease agreement amendment. And let's see who's doing this report here. Is this you, Mr. Butterfield? Oh no, Mr.

1:25:20 – 1:26:25Speaker 20

Tell us about this. So up for consideration with the City Council is a lease amendment one to the agreement with Mom's Place, Libby Lenza, the leasee. And what this lease is going to be is for internet service, which would be a dedicated internet line for the cafe. In that area up there, the cell towers are a little bit weak simply because based on its elevation and where the cell tower is on the hill, it's almost the same level. So the city has a lot of capacity within the airport with the fiber optic line. And so this would give us the ability to give her a dedicated line. And the budget ramifications would be $40 a month for this line and $480 for the year. This was exactly the same agreement we had with the previous leasee. So we would hope that the council would consider that and approve this.

1:26:27Speaker 6

OK, so basically what it is is we're adding in section under rent says 1000 per month and then Internet use fee is AI Roman at either.

1:26:37Speaker 20

That's correct.

1:26:39Speaker 6

OK, thank you. Appreciate it Mr Ransom. I'd entertain a motion to approve Amendment 1 to the current lease agreement with Moms Place LLC.

1:26:49 – 1:27:01Speaker 6

Motion by. Councilwoman borders second by Councilman Bailey. Any discussion? All in favor, say aye.

1:27:02Speaker 6

Any opposed, say nay. I vote aye. Motion passes. All right, now more airport stuff, but this is gonna be Mr. Butterfield.

1:27:12 – 1:28:06Speaker 5

No, that's correct. more airport stuff airport layout plan more airport stuff indeed tonight we're seeking your formal approval of the airport layout plan this is an important document when it comes to receiving funds from the federal aviation administration we're required to have the alp is what i'll refer to it here on forward so that it projects forward the needs of the airport, and also the existing conditions of the airport. So every time we propose a project in our capital plan with the federal government and the state, we reference back to the ALP. The master plan project is coming to a close, and as part of that master plan, we had our consultant work on the ALP. All these documents are included in your packet. We recommend your approval. And with your approval, we will then forward it on to the FAA. Thank you, Your Honor.

1:28:06 – 1:28:33Speaker 6

Okay. Thank you. I'd entertain a motion to approve the ALP, Airport Layout Plan, for Central Wyoming Regional Airport, or RIW. I almost was going to say RWI. As presented, authorize staff to submit the ALP to the FAA, lots of acronyms tonight, for review and approval as part of the Airport Master Plan or AMP. Actually, that's not one of the acronyms, but I just wanted to do that. We have a motion?

1:28:34Speaker 16

So moved. Second.

1:28:36 – 1:29:11Speaker 6

Motion by Councilwoman Borders, second by Councilwoman Preston. Discussion on this? Okay, all in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed say nay. I vote aye, motion passes. Nice job on that. Great, next up, wayfinding signage, ownership and responsibility agreement.

1:29:12 – 1:31:04Speaker 5

Mr. Butterfield. Thank you, Your Honor. This agreement will be between the City of Riverton and the Wind River Visitor Council, and it pertains to the wayfinding signs that have recently been installed. An example of those signs is included in your packet, but I hope you've seen them around town. They're beautiful signs. After a committee worked with the Wind River Visitor's Council to design and find the appropriate location and assets to denote in the signs, they were installed. This agreement now allows the Windover Visitor Council to step out of the project and also allow the city to take responsibility for the signs moving forward. I would state that a very similar agreement has been adopted by the City of Lander who was participant in this wayfinding program as well. And we used basically the same provisions that the City of Lander and the Visitor Council used in their agreement. You'll notice that while ownership transfers to the city of Riverton It is left to the city of Riverton's discretion as it relates to the future maintenance replacement or expansion of the wayfinding sign project And while the city retains final decision authority the agreement provides that the city will still coordinate with the visitor council and provide them advance notice if there are any major changes about the removal of the signs and Your Honor, I think that's very fair in the sense that the Visitor Council did the hard work to ensure that the funds were received and then also managed the contractor and the project. So we're very thankful for that partnership. And those are the high points of that agreement. Staff recommends that the City Council execute it. And I would recognize Ms. Helen Wilson here in the audience and thank her again for her work on this project. Thank you, Helen.

1:31:06 – 1:31:19Speaker 6

They look great. All right, I'd entertain a motion to approve the wayfinding signage ownership and responsibility agreement between the City of Riverton and the Wind River Visitors Council.

1:31:19Speaker 16

So moved. Second.

1:31:21 – 1:31:52Speaker 6

Motion by Councilman Larson. Second by Councilwoman Borders. Any other discussion? Okay. I don't know if it's a positive that this is the same one that Lander signed. I want to do our own thing. I'm just joking. We could. That'd be a great idea. As it is, we're looking at maybe being able to. I'm not going to say anything. I'm not going to jinx it.

1:31:52Speaker 16

Yeah, you shouldn't do not.

1:31:55 – 1:32:11Speaker 6

All right. All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed say nay. I vote aye. Motion passes. Next up, airport lease amendment. General Services Administration. You again, Mr. Butterfield.

1:32:11 – 1:36:04Speaker 5

Thank you, Your Honor. General Services Administration, or GSA as I'll refer to it here and now, has a lease with the city of Riverton on behalf of the federal government. And this really pertains to the leased space that TSA, or the Transportation Security Administration, has at the airfield, and more particularly at the terminal building. Because we're a commercial service airport, we are required to ensure that passengers are screened as well as their luggage, and TSA provides that. Recently, the President issued Executive Order 14398. This addresses DEI discrimination by federal contractors. DEI stands for Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. The Executive Order is included in your packet. It centers on NOT ALLOWING DISPARATE TREATMENT BASED ON RACE OR ETHNICITY IN AREAS INCLUDING RECRUITMENT, EMPLOYMENT, CONTRACTING, PROGRAM PARTICIPATION IN THE ALLOCATION OR DEPLOYMENT OF RESOURCES. GSA AFTER THE EXECUTIVE ORDER ISSUED ITS OWN ORDER THROUGH FAR 52.222-90. THIS IS HOW THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WORKS. They are proposing... Numbers, letters, all of that. Acronyms, letters, and numbers. With their adoption of requirements as it relates to the president's executive order, they are proposing an amendment to the lease that they hold with the city of Riverton. The lease identifies the city of Riverton as the contractor. So as you look at the executive order, it ties back to contractors with the federal government. Essentially, the clause in the amendment adopts FAR 52.222-90 and prohibits as the contractor from engaging in racially discriminatory DEI activities. It also states that subcontractors to the contractor or the city or the lessor must follow those same provisions. Noncompliance by the city or a subcontractor may result in suspending, canceling, or terminating the lease. It could also jeopardize the federal government's payment decisions to the city under the False Claims Act. The staff has done some preliminary research on this. I was very curious to know what subcontractor meant and if it was all inclusive to every agreement the city of Riverton has. And after speaking with several other airports and legal counsel, I was able to confirm what I put in my staff report that's in your packet, that it is not an all-inclusive provision for every agreement that the City of Riverton holds. It would only be as it relates to the leased space under the GSA lease agreement. As an example, If we were to hire a subcontractor to work on the HVAC system that supports the lease space at the terminal, we would need to ensure that that subcontractor complies with the executive order and also the GSA FAR. But it does not pertain to anything as it relates to a contract we may have with the police department to procure anything. So I wanted to make sure I highlighted that because that was an area of concern as we enter into an agreement. I wanted to know the breadth and depth of what that would be. With that understanding, staff recommends the execution of this amendment and also give signatory authority to me as administrator to sign that. I've been receiving this amendment every day for several months now. And I'd like to execute it and make sure that we get it off our plate.

1:36:06Speaker 6

You'd like to not be receiving it every day?

1:36:09Speaker 5

Your Honor, that's correct, but I also wanted to make sure before we recommended execution that we knew exactly what we were getting into, and I think we do now.

1:36:18Speaker 6

All right, and this is just for the amendment. We're not having to sign the whole thing over.

1:36:23 – 1:36:34Speaker 5

Your Honor, that's correct. Included in your packet is the current GSA lease and the other amendments, and this would just be signatory authority over this amendment as it relates to DEI practices. Great.

1:36:36Speaker 6

Okay, and we could say, hey, let's thumb our nose at the federal government and quickly lose our airport.

1:36:42Speaker 19

Fair enough? That they fully fund.

1:36:44 – 1:37:08Speaker 6

Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, I'd entertain a motion to approve the amendment to the LWY00285 lease agreement between the City of Riverton and the United States of America acting through the GSA, incorporating Federal Acquisition Regulation 52.222-90, and give signatory authority to the city administrator so he can quit receiving these emails.

1:37:11 – 1:37:51Speaker 6

Motion by Councilwoman Johnson, second by Councilman Larson. Any discussion? All in favor say aye. Aye. Any opposed say nay. I vote aye, motion passes. I guess the airport continues, Mr. Ransom. A little bit of tongue in cheek, but it's always interesting when the federal government is like, you will respect my authority. All right, pause for the cause committee clarification. Police chief, tell us what's going on here. Thank you, Mayor and Council.

1:37:52 – 1:42:33Speaker 18

On May 5th of this year, the City Council established the Paws for the Cause Committee through Resolution 1552. The resolution identified the need to explore solutions to promote the mutual success of PAWS and the City as each organization strives to fulfill its independent and codependent roles. Following the committee's establishment, several lengthy meetings have been held. The committee has discussed a variety of topics relating to the relationship between the city and PAWS, including statistical and operational information derived from both city and control and PAWS. The committee's discussions have provided an opportunity to better understand the services, responsibilities, the challenges, and data associated with both organizations. However, as the committee's work has progressed, staff believes additional direction from city council would be beneficial in establishing clear objectives and determine the desired outcome of the committee's work. Further, staff is seeking clarification from council regarding the intended role and purpose of the pause for the cause committee. The language contained in resolution 1552 provides a broad objective to exploring solutions to promote the mutual success pause in the city. However, the resolution does not identify specific goals, deliverables, policy questions, or anticipated timeframe for the committee's work. As a result, the committee meetings have included substantial discussion on a variety of issues, but staff and committee members may benefit from additional council direction, which issues should be prioritized and what the committee is ultimately expected to accomplish. Among the potential areas that Council could direct the Committee to explore are animal control, shelter, capacity, and size, such as using criteria to project future needs, include capacity, animal intake, the average length of stay, and a future demand. City and control regulations, city and PAWS roles and responsibilities, data and performance measures. Data could be used to evaluate the intake, adoption rates, return to owner rates, the costs and other relevant outcomes. or future planning. These are presented as potential areas to focus and are intended to limit the council's ability to provide a different direction. Staff is also seeking council's direction regarding the anticipated duration of the committee Council may wish to establish specific goals or deliverables that once completed will allow the committee to conclude its work Alternatively the council may determine the committee should continue meeting for a specific period and return to council with recommendations at designated intervals Establishing clear objectives and an anticipated endpoint may help to ensure the committee discussions remain focused and provide counsel with useful recommendations or information. The counsel also has the option to consider that the committee has fulfilled its obligation and could be disbanded. Staff is seeking the council to provide additional direction focusing on purpose, scope, goals, and anticipate direction of the cause committee. With that, Your Honor, I'll stand for any questions. Okay. Thank you.

1:42:38Speaker 6

We have two representatives from the Pause for the Cause Committee here.

1:42:41Speaker 14

I'll yap about it.

1:42:44Speaker 6

Oh, yeah, that's true. We have three.

1:42:45Speaker 14

There's three.

1:42:47Speaker 14

I tear this one.

1:42:49 – 1:43:00Speaker 6

I agree. I guess I was saying up here on the diet, but soon enough. Thoughts? Chancey, do you want to jump in?

1:43:01Speaker 21

I'd happily be available for any questions or clarifications or perspective at the council meeting.

1:43:06Speaker 6

Okay. Councilman Johnson?

1:43:08 – 1:45:39Speaker 11

Yeah, I'll speak. I think that the committee has served its purpose after attending several of these meetings, and it has gone in multiple different directions, none of them being a real clear direction, but there has been a lot discussed, and there has been a lot of things brought forward. And I think that it would be in the best interest for the city to disband the committee and allow our staff to move forward with an agreement. But with that being said, I do wanna make a couple of points. Over the last month, Forever Found in Fremont County has been accepting our animals. PAWS has consistently stayed at their limit and able to accept what we've brought to them. And so now we have a bill, an additional cost for these animals be going to another location. Looking objectively at that, is there anything that says that we must exclusively use pause or can we split what we have going on between the two foundations support them both and how always always have a place to bring animals so that it's not an issue ever again it would reduce i think the uh the overcrowding that pause has They would obviously be different contracts that we would have because PAWS operates out of a city building, whereas the other one operates out of their personal property. And the only issue that I can see with it is PAWS had put in for the contract for service funding, whereas Forever Friends had not yet. But I do believe that they will be doing that going forward. But I think to reduce the amount of traffic that PAWS has and always have a place to take them to avoid euthanization altogether, it might be in the city's best interest to utilize both organizations and fund both organizations to the best of our ability.

1:45:43Speaker 6

Councilman Bailey.

1:45:46 – 1:47:17Speaker 19

Again, I didn't make every meeting, but I've made most of them. Again, I think, as Karen stated, you know, We discussed a ton of different things. I don't know that we came to any really good solutions for any of the ones. Again, as in the beginning, I stated, you know, to me, the city of Riverton's main responsibility is for code enforcement, picking up strays and that kind of stuff and having a place to put them for our... in a required five to 10 day hold, depending on the circumstance. That has happened some of the time that paused, but also quite a bit of the time they didn't have room, they were full. So again, I think we have to look at that and I think we need to really look at the lease that we have on the building and the contract for services With that perspective, I fully support Paws and anybody else that's taking care of animals and finding and fostering them and getting them adopted and all that, but that's not the city's primary responsibility. Ours is to make sure we don't have ornery dogs and cats running around the streets unattended.

1:47:18Speaker 11

We have to have a place to take them and we can no longer be told no, right? That's not gonna happen. I'm sorry.

1:47:28 – 1:48:15Speaker 16

I would like to know when pause runs out of room. What are they supposed to do? I feel like they're being held to a standard. They cannot help that. And I understand the city has an obligation, but I feel like all the weight is being put on pause. Right now we have an MOU that is not signed, and they have not received their money, And how are they supposed to operate? Because we've been holding things up. And I don't know what a solution is, but having pause hold the whole weight of this is really starting to make me mad because it's not accurate. It can't make space where there is none.

1:48:15 – 1:49:34Speaker 6

I agree. And that's where it gets... That's where we're having... What we're seeing is this balance between animal shelter and animal control that is so difficult. Because PAWS operates as an animal shelter and not purely for the animal control portion, the funding that we have provided for them has been under the auspices of... animal control and providing space for our animals. And so the whole purpose in my thought process, the purpose of the committee, which I know how it goes. It's hard when you get in a committee and you've got so many different people with different visions and everything like that was to say, what are the answers we can come up with for animal control? And it sounds like we've got an organization that's very willing to help out with Forever Found in Fremont County. Did I say the wrong name wrong? fancy do you have anything to add I just want perspectives from everybody I really appreciate that I appreciate the weight that's on pause too I would echo some of what all the council members have said so far my perspective includes

1:49:36 – 1:50:30Speaker 21

an echoing of the statement that the city's requirements and the requirements of a shelter are closely related, but they are not identical. In my perspective, there is a very clear line in the sand that can be drawn regarding the city's requirements and the funding that is given to any organization in order to uphold those requirements. and a clear understanding of what the expectation of service in return for that is. I think that overcrowding and population and animals in and animals out is all data that should be considered, but I don't think that the data supports the claim that PAWS cannot receive the amount of animals that the city brings. Hmm.

1:50:32 – 1:50:45Speaker 6

Okay. So the question then, though, becomes why not? Is that just because of lack of getting animals adopted out, or where is the issue?

1:50:46Speaker 21

In my opinion, looking at the data, the number of days that an animal spends at pause is extreme.

1:50:54 – 1:52:59Speaker 6

Okay. So then, and that's where it gets difficult, right? Because the city has an obligation, and this is where it's, and just to be frank, it's where it gets kind of hard, is the whole reason why the city had Paz take over that building, which used to be a city building, is because... we needed to have somewhere for the animals to go. That was the purpose. City property that had previously been a pound where animals were euthanized regularly. And then they say, we will take this over and as a part of it, and I'm not saying this is historic truth or anything, but it's the general thought process as a part of it, we'll take in the animals, but we're also going to operate as an animal shelter. And it's almost like it's mission creep where there's like we started with an idea that part of it was going to be a guarantee that they're going to be taking in our animals. And their mission of being an animal shelter became primary. But the issue then becomes it almost turns into now the city has to be operating an animal shelter rather than just operating animal control in the sense that if we want the space what could we ever do to help them have the space and if not why would we have pause in that space if it's not providing what we need and that's where it gets kind of i don't want to say we need to kick out pause that's not what i'm saying but i am saying if the city is having an issue with animal control and we have space for the animals that could be held And PAWS is not able to provide the space that we need for animal control. Why would we keep with that relationship without figuring out different ways to adjust it? And that's been my whole concern. Hold on just a second. Do you have anything to add to any of that? Okay. Councilwoman Johnson?

1:53:00 – 1:54:31Speaker 11

I just want to say that PAWS does provide services for the city, and that's the whole part in them utilizing the building. Unfortunately, the building was built as an impound and not as a rescue, and so it doesn't give them a lot of... operational space. And that's why I make the recommendation to use both of the organizations because both of them are providing a service to the city of Riverton, essentially, not necessarily in contract with Forever Friends, but PAWS would be currently. But if we can utilize the both of them, we can support both organizations who are finding homes for these animals How they operate or how they get these animals adopted out is their own success rate. We can't tell them how to operate. We can't tell them what to change in order to operate better. We just have the expectation that when we pick up an animal, we have to have a place to take it. So I think supporting both organizations, I think is beneficial to the city of Riverton in this instance. It's not what I had envisioned when we started this conversation by any means, but Forever Friends has been a godsend. And they're adopting them out quickly. So it's operational, in my opinion, whatever's going on. I'm not saying that they're not trying or they're not doing it.

1:54:32 – 1:55:05Speaker 19

Operationally, they're doing something different between the two organizations that one is getting them adopted out quickly and the other one is not But we always have to have a place to take them Anything to add councilman Bailey Well, I think the question is hand is do you and I would ask for chancy do you think there's anything else the committee could accomplish if we move forward or have we sort of reached this point where I You know, we've flushed all this information out, and we are where we are.

1:55:09 – 1:55:29Speaker 21

I think that if the council had specific questions that they wanted answers to, the committee may still serve a purpose. But if the council feels like they have a good direction and have some vision about the direction they want to go regarding the contract for service, the MOU, and the lease agreement,

1:55:30 – 1:57:18Speaker 6

Would tend to agree that the committee served its purpose if the council feels they have that direction the one thing that I could think of that I would Welcome from the committee is if nothing else Just some statistics. How many animals did we have come in last year? through the city and what was their disposition in other words a If we had 10,000 animals come in, I'm exaggerating. If we had 10,000 animals come in, that's a lot. But let's say we had 10,000 animals come in. How many of them were housed by HAWS? And then how many of them did we have to find somewhere else to put them, and where did we put them? I know some of the difficulty with this has been like Spillman. If you're going to log something into Spillman, it's like as evidence. And I think someone was talking about that and took umbrage with the fact that dogs aren't evidence. And they can be, actually, just on that note. But being able to have that number so that we going forward can say this is how many dogs we had come in, or cats. This is the ones that had been heard by PAWS, because I've heard so many times PAWS doesn't have room, PAWS isn't taking them. But then I also hear PAWS does have room and does take them. And so I'd just like to be able to look at last year how many dogs and cats came in, how many did PAWS take, and for how long? Because as we're looking forward to what this agreement can look like in the future, I think the best way to do it, rather than just having it be a lump sum, is have it be by animal.

1:57:20 – 1:57:36Speaker 6

That just to me would be the easiest way to make sense that you're saying, if you can take an animal, we will pay you to take that animal. If you can't, we won't. Not that we're trying to say you're doing anything wrong, it's just paying them for the animal.

1:57:37Speaker 17

paying them for service.

1:57:39 – 1:58:42Speaker 19

Right. And, you know, again, since we started the committee, I've been watching the numbers we get in our weekly report, and a large amount of them get picked up by owners. It doesn't tell us exactly how many days or whatever, but, I mean, quite a few of them get picked up by their owners, which is a great thing. unless they're like repeat offenders or something. We had discussed trying to sponsor some spay and neuter clinics a couple of times a year or something, or making it mandatory that we get animals chipped so that then the animal control officer has a way to contact their owner. And they're not just, you know, rogue animals running around. You know, it used to be we had to have a dog bag, but now it's the chipping thing. So I think the city could devote funds specifically to some of those kind of things and get cooperation from the vets and the other folks in town that, you know, would benefit from that.

1:58:44 – 1:59:26Speaker 11

With Councilman Bailey, what he was saying, that is true. We also discussed... an ordinance change in the number of animals that can be kept within the city limits of Riverton too. Setting a limit on households because unfortunately there are some that are trying to take matters into their own hands and they're bringing in a large number of animals and then giving them away online and that becomes an issue because then they end up down a pause eventually too. So we looked at the ordinance changes but I would agree that I think we should be paying per animal.

1:59:28 – 1:59:52Speaker 6

And I guess in terms of what we could do and what would be a deliverable perhaps from the committee would be showing that of all the things that I could sit there and say would make sense is animals that have come in, how many days they've been with paws, and how many days otherwise. And if we don't have a way to keep those records, then starting a system that we can use to keep that record so that we know.

1:59:53 – 2:00:22Speaker 21

Your Honor, back to your original comment about the numbers and the statistics. Like you, I've heard repeatedly... The difference between PAWS wasn't able to take animals, but they were. That data is hard to get a hold of, but a lion's share of the data that you requested, we've already put together and collated and looked at. I dispersed it at least to Council Members Bailey and Johnson. I'm happy to disperse that anywhere else you'd like. A lion's share of what you asked for is available.

2:00:24 – 2:01:28Speaker 6

And so, to me, just kind of at least coming forward with that, and I know it feels like the whole reason we had even discussed the committee is because we've been spinning our wheels around this for a long time, and we've not actually, we've talked about it, and we've said, hey, we ought to figure that out someday, and I think we kind of gave the committee a pretty vague directive, and I appreciate the hard work you've done. And it might be that it is just, let's figure out a certain deliverable that we can get, and then let's move on and figure out what we're gonna do next. And I think as best as possible, being able to figure out when we have had animals, when they've been seized, and then how long they've been at pause, so we can figure out what would make sense. in terms of funding for PAWS for that aspect of what they do? I don't know. Ms. Councilwoman Borders, any other thoughts?

2:01:28 – 2:02:28Speaker 16

Well, it's just that I feel like the relationship between the city and PAWS is very adversarial. PAWS feels very attacked. they feel extremely attacked, and all they want to do is rescue animals. They try their butts off to get them adopted. And maybe the pay-as-you-go is a good option to think about, you know. I think the problem is going to be where, how long do you house an animal? Do you go into 400 days you know i know that the city would like to go a different route that's not going to happen when pause is taking care of that animal they are not going to euthanize oh no there are no kill shelter shelter and they're not going to change that and i don't think they should have to no and i think that's and that's fine i the the point is though so just to

2:02:29 – 2:04:11Speaker 6

to put a little bit of this in perspective. I just got an email from an individual who basically was saying that they have been aware of quite a few vicious animal issues. Brings up that we've had pit bull that had injured another person's dog had some children playing in the yard right up near your area uh mike some people that had been going by bikes to jc park that kind of thing and they've just had all these different incidents that have been stepping up lately of vicious animals and the problem is we should be able to seize every one of these that's our obligation And in order to do that, we need a place to put them. In order to have a place to put them, we need to have a place to put them. So I do appreciate, I think, the relationship between this new organization and what's been going on there. It sounds like we've been coming up with some solutions. But I guess what I would propose is that we try to give a directive to the pause for the cause committee. For something to do to kind of finally finalize their work with some kind of a deliverable and then we call it good. Continue on with the contract negotiations between city staff and with pause and just kind of figure out where we go next. And yes, Councilman car.

2:04:12 – 2:05:14Speaker 9

Just real quick, I think it was my understanding that when we formed the committee that I had five relatively clear goals in my head, and I probably should have voiced them a little bit more, but I think, one, identifying what's required of the city through ordinance for animal control, how we're What are our requirements? Two, identify what's required of the shelter through ordinance, if any exist. And then three, identify potential ordinance changes that are mutually beneficial to both the city and the shelter so that we can close that Venn diagram and get more overlap of what the city needs and what the shelter needs. And then identify potential capacity solutions that meet both the city's and the shelter's needs. And then identify potential solutions to reduce the numbers of at-large animals throughout the city. I think those five goals are really what we need answered.

2:05:17Speaker 6

Those aren't too bad.

2:05:21 – 2:06:06Speaker 6

And if we want to continue to have pause for the cause, do that, we could. If we want to have that be something that we could basically give back to city staff, we could do that. I do think that for whatever reason, it has turned into something that has... not been able to stay focused on those things, and it's kind of turned into a lot of different discussions that have nothing to do with those five. So what do you think about disbanding the committee and kind of letting the, because I do think it's kind of gotten a little bit intermixed with the negotiations, with pause, with the contracts for services, and I think you've noted that too, Councilwoman Borders.

2:06:08 – 2:07:38Speaker 21

I would say in respect to Councilman Carr's five goals, I think the committee is ill-suited for addressing the first three. I think the requirements of the ordinances and the requirements of the laws are pretty clear-cut, in my opinion. I think if somebody wanted to look at those and try and create some clarity where they see a lack thereof they could. But I think the committee is ill-suited for interpreting and digesting ordinances and requirements. Where the latter two goals are concerned, I think that's where a committee would be more beneficial to bring a proposition to the city. But again, without a goal in mind, it's hard to propose a change in ordinance. one of the things the committee has done is taken some data and looked at where the data suggests an ordinance change may be valuable. Uh, but again, that data is lacking in perspective. Uh, as an example, uh, the, the data that we have easy access to doesn't inherently indicate why an animal became the city's problem. Um, so it's hard to identify. if it's overcrowding or a lack of spay and neutering or a lack of updated chip data because the individual animal records don't indicate why an animal became the city's problem, only that it did.

2:07:39 – 2:08:27Speaker 6

Would there be, I appreciate that. And I guess where I could see, if I were to say a deliverable that I could see the committee coming up with is it would be, what would you recommend in terms of changes so that we can actually keep track of these things better? What would be the mechanism that you would suggest in terms of how can we be able to get to the end of the year and say this many animals, were seized by animal control and this was the disposition of them. This is where they went. This is how long they were at pause. This is how long they were elsewhere. To me, that would be one of the most important deliverables because that would help us be able to make decisions.

2:08:29 – 2:08:44Speaker 11

I think the one thing that needs to be defined in that process is once the animal is relinquished to the organization, I mean, do we pay for it for 400 days or do we just pay a surrender fee?

2:08:44 – 2:08:56Speaker 6

Well, that's that was kind of my thought is that it would be if you were going to pay by day, you would be paying for that period. that it's the city's responsibility.

2:08:56Speaker 11

The five-day hold. Yeah, we pay for the five-day hold, but we should also pay a surrender fee if we're going to turn the animal over to them to care for until it's found a home.

2:09:06 – 2:09:19Speaker 6

And I think that would make sense. If we were going to do it where we would pay per day for the surrender, or I'm sorry, per day that they are there for the five-day hold, and then the surrender fee, to me, would make sense. Yeah.

2:09:21Speaker 16

Your Honor, so when we're talking about surrender fee, what does that include? Is it microchipping? Is it spay and neutering?

2:09:32 – 2:10:08Speaker 6

Well, and I think it'd be the same amount that they already would charge any member of the community to surrender an animal. But I'm just trying to think of... of ways that you can make it so that this is a contract for service and so being able to point to this is the service that's being provided this is what we're going to pay for the service that's provided what we've had thus far is we're paying for a service but the service is not being provided because they don't have the space for the animal so then it's why would the city be paying for a service if it's not being provided

2:10:11 – 2:12:36Speaker 19

So again, some of these costs need to be borne by the owner of the animal. It's really, it shouldn't be our problem as the city to pay for that if we find the owner. Now, the ones that we can't find an owner for, that's gonna be fall back on us, but I don't think it's gonna be every animal. And to me, that's one of the numbers that I think's interesting, is how many get returned. And back when Councilman Brothers was here, she had talked about, a dog got out, it come back, and it's $100 to get it back, let's say. Well, didn't have the $100, well then tomorrow it's $200, and then the next day it's $300. And you get into this funky debtor's prison kind of idea for animals. And from what PAWS says, they waive those a lot of times. But then there are other fees that get paid that PAWS gets to keep. Again, it can only be a one-way street. To me, there needs to be some, you know, I don't know that the city should pay to give the dog to them at the end of five days, but, you know, it's their decision at that point whether they want to take that dog or not. And I'm not an advocate for euthanization. But there comes a point, if you've got 400 cats at the shelter and nobody wants to adopt them, I don't know what you do. You look for other places to take them, and if not, dogs and cats. I don't want to be prejudicial. But it's the same question. Nobody wants to... see their animal put away, but there comes a point where you can't just keep building bigger shelters either. We've got to come up with a solution to that, and that's where I would be willing to see the city help with some spay and neuter clinics, some chipping, some of that, so that we focus on returning those animals to their owners and having them pay for the expenses that those animals have cost. But we want to always make sure that our animal control officers have the ability to pick up the animal because especially if we've got a vicious dog or something like that, we need to be able to take those animals and put them somewhere.

2:12:38 – 2:13:16Speaker 16

Your Honor, I just wanted to talk about a couple factors that PAWS deals with on a regular basis. So say they get a mom dog with eight puppies. That takes up capacity. If they take in a vicious dog, that takes up capacity because they have to be quarantined. They've only got a certain amount of quarantine space. So there's just so many factors. And I think it would be really nice. I really like Eric's idea with the five points because I think it gives you a better way to focus.

2:13:18 – 2:13:57Speaker 6

Would it make sense? So I could see this going one of three ways. And I guess this is my question for the council. Number one, we just cut our losses, we move on, we figure out some different solutions somewhere else because of just how much this has gotten intermingled with some other things that I think have caused confusion. And we come back to it with a fresh look later. But in either event, before the next fiscal year, because I do think we want to have some solid ideas. Number two, we keep going with the new mission that the council would be able to provide, maybe after a work session.

2:13:59 – 2:14:18Speaker 6

Another work session where we would specifically talk about this and we could discuss it there. Which is always, you know, this was the big thing in my Master of Public Administration degree was the do nothing, which is we just let things lie how they are and we don't do anything.

2:14:19Speaker 16

You can't keep operating like that. No. We owe it to the citizens to get it figured out.

2:14:27 – 2:14:51Speaker 6

So I guess from the council, what's the council's thought? Basically, we have one of the thoughts would be let's go ahead and disband it and get a fresh look at it, maybe with some different eyes or whatever that might look like. Councilman Carr's thought is maybe we reevaluate, get a new mission. My thought has been, hey, let's come up with some deliverables and then disband it.

2:14:52 – 2:15:57Speaker 19

Your Honor, I think... we should somewhere in the near future have a work session where we let Chansey present the numbers that he's accumulated so that we all know. Maybe city staff could look at the existing ordinances and what our responsibilities are on that end. And then maybe at the end of that work session or two, we would have the ability to come up and go, okay, we think we need to change the ordinance here. Here's how many animals we think we're taking in on a weekly basis. and come up with some ideas of where PAWS could meet us in the middle somewhere. If we have to go to a secondary person to retain them, we've gotta come up with a value for that that we would have to figure out how we're gonna balance that value with what PAWS is getting as opposed to the other person getting. And I think us as the council could probably come to those conclusions after we get the data And look at that.

2:15:58Speaker 6

How does that sound to you? I think that sounds like a great idea.

2:16:02Speaker 12

I would absolutely agree with that too.

2:16:04Speaker 6

So get us a report from where you're at right now and then we kind of decide where we're going to go next.

2:16:09 – 2:16:25Speaker 19

And I think with that being said, I don't think we need the committee to do any additional work at this point until we maybe come up with some other. You know, if we have something left over that we still want to work on, we can look at doing OK. Chief, how would that sound for you?

2:16:28Speaker 18

So just so I'm clear, we'll come back with a presentation of what's been completed so far by the committee?

2:16:35 – 2:16:53Speaker 6

Yeah. Come back and let us know where things have ended up. If there's anything you can let us know about where things are, and then we figure out where it is, and maybe the council just picks up the baton from there. Sounds good. But not make you have to go through another meeting to be able to get there.

2:16:55Speaker 11

So you're suggesting a work session with council rather than, so do we need to move to disband the committee then?

2:17:02Speaker 6

I would say we kind of hear from Chansey from where we're at at a work session specifically on it, and then... at that point we could decide where we want to go next.

2:17:12 – 2:17:25Speaker 16

Your Honor, what about just maybe instead of disbanding, maybe just put that on hold until we figure out so they don't need to meet and not get anywhere.

2:17:26Speaker 6

So your motion is to kind of put a pause on the pause for the cause committee.

2:17:33Speaker 6

And then come back and get a report and we decide what we want to do next. That was a motion from Councilwoman Borders?

2:17:41Speaker 12

It was, Your Honor. I'll second that.

2:17:44 – 2:18:19Speaker 6

Second that. Any other discussion on that one? Okay. So we'll just put it on you. To let us know where you're at, and then we'll figure out where to go next. Works for me. In the meantime, we'll make sure Mr. Butterfield can get all their negotiations in and come to us. I know that the plan was at our next regular meeting to have the contract to review and consider. So that's the goal there. Okay. Any other discussion on that? Councilwoman Johnson, you feel like you're still spinning your wheels with it.

2:18:19 – 2:18:57Speaker 11

I think it's a complete and total waste of time. But this has all been discussed. And I don't understand why we continue to have committee after committee after committee to talk about what the city needs when the city and their staff can make that decision. It's a waste of time to go to meeting after meeting. This is things that we can decide. It's what we're capable of doing, and we need to just disband the committee. Mr. Chancey is welcome to provide the data so everybody's completely aware of it, make a decision, and go with it. This back and forth is driving me bananas. Sorry, but that's how I feel.

2:18:59 – 2:19:16Speaker 19

Councilman Bailey. I would agree. I think we have the data we need. I think it's a little premature to make a contract when we don't know what that value of per animal night for the five days is. It's tricky to make a contract that's open-ended.

2:19:21Speaker 6

Okay. Any other discussion? Well, the motion right now is to pause. Pause for the cause.

2:19:28Speaker 16

Your Honor, I think I will rescind my motion and I vote to go with Karen's plan.

2:19:39Speaker 6

Just disband it?

2:19:42Speaker 6

I would second.

2:19:44Speaker 16

You rescind? Yep, I do.

2:19:46 – 2:19:58Speaker 6

Okay. Motion is then to disband the pause for the cause committee and carry on with the council and staff. You okay with that, Chair?

2:19:59Speaker 21

Absolutely. The will of the council.

2:20:01 – 2:20:28Speaker 16

All right. If I could, I would just like to know where PAWS stands with their contract for services because they still have a facility they're trying to run. And I don't think it's fair that they have to wait until everyone figures out what they're doing. They still have a facility to run. And they need the money. It's not like money's falling out of the sky. They need help.

2:20:29 – 2:21:28Speaker 6

Well, and I guess that's where it gets a little bit interesting because we did discuss this a little bit previously. The fact that in terms of what the city is doing for them has provided a space for them has, I think, done a lot in terms of things that, for example, the city would otherwise be able to collect, that PAWS is able to collect. That does have a benefit, and when it comes down to it, this is just my opinion, and I'm not trying to say PAWS is doing anything wrong. I guess my point is the whole idea of this contract has been a place for us to bring our animals. And if right now there's not a place for us to bring our animals there, I don't necessarily feel bad if we haven't provided them money yet. for providing a space for us to bring our animals. But I don't know what the status is. Are they full? Are they accepting them? Or where are we at?

2:21:28Speaker 18

They've been full since August 11th. Okay.

2:21:33 – 2:21:45Speaker 6

But that means they have been accepting them since or before August 11th. So I mean being able to get a number to that, which is how it goes. It's the nature of the beast.

2:21:45 – 2:22:11Speaker 16

Well, and the thing is, they've got space reserved for the city for animals. And they're feeding those animals, they are taking care of those animals. You want them taken care of with their shots and all that stuff. PAWS can't afford to incur all of that cost, so I feel like there should be a happy medium somewhere that can take care of the city and

2:22:13 – 2:22:55Speaker 6

pause that's performing this service and they've been performing this service for more than 20 years i agree and i think that's something that we have to kind of get staff on the contract and have them come forward with it september 15th and then we'll see where we're at and discuss it there but i also agree kind of with what we're talking about i feel like we're making you spin your wheels and and sit there and say, hey, why don't you take this thing that we want to get a solution to and you figure it out? It's hard. You've done very well, and I appreciate it, and I appreciate you serving as the chair, too. Okay. Any other discussion on the motion? All in favor say aye.

2:22:57 – 2:23:14Speaker 6

Any opposed say nay. Nay. I vote aye. I think... Whatever else we do, I appreciate the work you've done, and it was a valiant effort. Appreciate the, I think that means the motion passes.

2:23:14Speaker 23

Mr. Mayor, yes, just as clarification, so it was all ayes with the exception of Councilman Larson.

2:23:20Speaker 6

Let's verify that. Who had voted aye? Councilwoman Johnson, aye. Aye. Aye, aye, aye, nay.

2:23:28Speaker 16

Councilman Carr.

2:23:28Speaker 6

Councilman Carr, had you registered your vote? Are you a registered voter?

2:23:37Speaker 16

Thank you. Yes.

2:23:40 – 2:23:58Speaker 6

All right, that was our last agenda item. All in favor of, do we need to do an executive session? I love when we don't have to do an executive session. Me too. All in favor of adjourning? Anybody opposed to adjourning at this point?

2:24:00Speaker 6

Okay. We'll adjourn then without objection at 9.16 p.m.

2:24:27 – 2:26:09Speaker 1

Thank you. Thank you. you Thanks for watching!

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