Code of Ethics Adjudicating Body - Regular Meeting

Testing So good evening everyone welcome to the Board of Ethics meeting for June 4th call this meeting to order Let's go ahead and start with public comment. Can we play the recording please?

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Do we have any public comments? Person, phone?

I don't see anybody waiting. There's nobody calling.

Oh, okay. So, item number two was supposed to be presentation, so I guess we're moving on from that, correct? Okay. And then the next one is the consent calendar. So, do we have a motion to approve the minutes from the consent calendar from the previous meetings? If you want to speak up, just raise your hand, please.

I approve it. I do have a motion to approve the minutes.

And do we have a second?

I have a second.

Okay. So let's go ahead and vote.

Chair Hernandez, you're voting on the consent calendar, please? So that its entirety, there's one more report on there. So just the consent calendar in its entirety.

Okay. Do we have a motion to approve the consent calendar in its entirety?

I make a motion to approve the consent calendar in its entirety.

And I second it.

Okay.

Let's go ahead and vote.

I'm having a problem. I agree.

I'm going to clear the vote so you can reboot give me one second sure okay please vote mines I don't think is working I apologize I'll do a roll call vote just I'm not sure what's wrong with this Okay, so I'll just call by vote. Member Perkins?

Yes. Member Threno?

No. No. Okay. Member De Herrera? Yes. Member Vega?

Yes.

Vice Chair?

Yes.

The motion passes unanimously with one no vote.

Oh.

Okay. Let me just switch back.

Okay.

There we go.

Is my name still under the bottom of you? No, your name is over there.

Oh.

Thank you. Next one is item number four, correct? No, five.

Number five?

Oh, because I told you I had to record you. Oh, okay. Sorry. Okay. Item number five, ad hoc committee proposal, charter amendment recommendations for the charter review committee. So the whole point of this one was to kind of review what we had gone over in the ad hoc committee and to kind of open it up for discussion to get some ideas from the other members, their feedback and opinions. so from what Gil and I have put together so far from the ad hoc committee on the amendment to the Charter Review Commission is number one is obviously adding the Board of Ethics to the city charter similar to the Community Police Review Commission The other one was, instead of the city council members and the mayor appointing the board of ethics members, it would be the inspector general that would appoint the board of ethics members. And those are just two ideas that we have so far. We kind of wanted to get some feedback from you guys, what your ideas were, what your thoughts were. No thoughts? You can raise your hand. You got to move here to be heard and over there to vote. Kill you playing musical chairs. So the whole point of adding the Board of Ethics to the city charter is so that, you know, obviously given prior incidents and or prior hearings and comments that were made by city council members, about the Board of Ethics is so that the Board of Ethics is written into the city charter and cannot be, you know, the Board of Ethics can't be dissolved or removed, things like that. the purpose of the inspector general once appointed appointing the Board of Ethics members moving forward is to decrease or to remove bias from the city counts from the Board of Ethics because what happens in some instances is there's complaints filed against city council members and then people have to recuse themselves if we don't have enough board members to move forward with a pre-hearing because of that as a result if they know the city council member if they're friends with the city council member or sometimes there may be like a feeling of loyalty to the individuals that were appointed to them appointed by them That would, you know, obviously eliminate that with the inspector general appointing the board of ethics members. But again, thoughts. If you have.

This is sort of like a reorganizational type of thing. And you all, especially if you're new, you're in the right place, right time for this. Because what we're trying to do Fairly, you know, we've done the research with other cities, and we found that this is a common trend, you know, throughout all of them is the ethics board or whatever they call it. You know, they have their own commission or what have you. IT'S AN INDEPENDENT ENTITY, WHICH GIVES THE PUBLIC MORE CONFIDENCE OF THE FACT AND MORE REPRESENTATION OF THEIR, YOU KNOW, OF THEIR NEEDS AND SERVICES. AND NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE WOULD SEE IT THIS WAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY INTRODUCING A NEW, YOU KNOW, Fairly new approach, but not so new because it's common with several other cities. And we're growing. We're out there and we're looking at the future for our public that we serve. So are you saying that for other cities, they're not appointed by the county members for their work? No, the other cities, sometimes they have a different type of setup. And in fact, we're kind of attracted to looking at some of that for us here. And it's just a matter of changing the environment. think you know we're we're due for a change anyway and I think that that the hope you know I think the process if we you know Mr. Hernandez and I especially you know encountered what I think would benefit you know City Council our ethics board itself in our whole whole entire governmental organization itself and be helpful And it's just a matter of, you know, trying to work the Kingston and things like that to just see our, because we have to kind of do it in our sense, in our way, before we start to grow. And to, you know, we're keeping that in mind.

Thank you, Gil, for explaining. I should have given a little bit more explanation as to the context of the ad hoc committee because I know we do have new members. The whole point of this is there are other cities that we have been researching how their board of ethics are structured in comparison to ours. independent they are in comparison to ours and you know the structure so we have kind of compiled the research and you know kind of gone over different ideas as to how we would like the Board of Ethics structured in order to instill more confidence in the residents that they have the ability to file a complaint and there's more transparency and accountability coming from our local government. when the Board of Ethics is more independent of City Council, but also still has accountability through the inspector general position that has been created through the voters and will be appointed soon. So that's the whole point of what the ad hoc committee was designed for, and all of this has to be put together. before the Charter Review Commission obviously there's a bigger process to it than that but you know we have to have a plan and a structure before we do that and we wanted to bring our findings and our research to the rest of the board and have these discussions to see if again you guys had any feedback or ideas

So comment and question Vice chair the question I have is Are we able to have an outline? I noticed that both board members vice chair yourself you are mentioning cities and what they have done and where I think that if we were to have sort of an outline of the cities that you're describing and then also information about what you all discovered will basically support the board especially I'm just saying you know speaking out saying because you you've mentioned the cities and the differentiates that they have of what the city of Riverside currently have and I think that if I were to see our other board members were to see an outline of what your findings were, what you discovered, and that would support the board and the decision that you're asking for us to move forth with.

That's a great idea. This ad hoc committee is kind of... It was from a previous ad hoc committee that was looking into researching the subpoena power for the ad hoc committee, and then eventually we created this ad hoc committee in order to do more research. And we have come to board meetings. Obviously, again, I know we have new members, but... Obviously, some of those findings have been presented before the board, but I would be glad to put something together for you guys so that you guys have a better idea of what the other cities do, their structures, so that you guys get a better idea of what we're getting at. So thank you for that. I appreciate it.

And I appreciate you, Vice Chair. Thank you.

Any other questions, comments, concerns?

My question, I'm unclear on, are you asking us to create an ad hoc committee to address these items? Or are you saying an ad hoc committee has already been done and we would like to attempt to move forward?

We are, myself, Mr. Vega, and Ms. Fanning are members of that ad hoc committee who has, we rarely because that's my fault, but we have been meeting to go over some of this information and the research that we gather as individuals and come together and go over that research. So that how committee has already been created. We're already doing research. But again, we'd be happy to share, put something together to share all that information with you.

So what I'm hearing you say is you're looking at changing the structure of the board of ethics, but currently our relationship is with the city council. So that would mean that not only are we changing the structure, but we would also be changing the process. And so have we thought about how the process would change with the structure?

So the way it works is the way we want to approach it is the city puts together a charter review commission that meets. They're appointed by city council. They meet and they discuss issues. Topics that they want to put before the voters. This is how the Inspector General position came to be about is through the Charter Review Commission and then approved by City Council and then it was put before the voters and it was voted on and approved. This is something similar where, you know, other cities have, you know, their Board of Ethics have been created through the city charter rather than the municipal code. And we have something similar through the Community Police Review Commission, if I'm right.

Yes.

So they're written into the charter, but the Board of Ethics is not. We only exist through the city's municipal code.

I hear what you're saying. Uh, my question is more right now. The process is the board of ethics. From my understanding, we'll make recommendations for the city council based off of our findings. And so with this structure, uh, change, would we still be able to make those recommendations or are those, um, change from recommendations to requirements under the inspector general?

so it would have to go these recommendations would have to go through a process and it would have to go through yes through City Council the Charter it would have to be put before the Charter review Commission and then sent back to City Council so my question is kind of circling back is one of your recommendations moving forward

would be once we get an inspector general then how the board of ethics is put together like the members is the inspector general picks the members instead of how it is currently where the council member chooses the members to be on the board is that one of your suggestions correct

You know, this is more like it's a developing process. And so there are still some aspects that are unclear. So we understand that you're trying to get the clarity here. What we're really saying is this is an evolving process. And we will have more detail in it But we're trying to make it so that it's our system which really works like any other city in their process for handling ethics issues. But right now, that's exactly what you were just saying. We're even looking at the fact, how do we fit in, or how would ethics fit in with the inspector general involved in that process? And even at this point in time, even the inspector general office is still in its developing, evolving process, too.

sorry i have another question kind of a weird tangent question um for the city attorney do we have like a rough like eta on when we're gonna get an inspector general like does is there like a deadline like we'll have one by 2027 or is there like is there a deadline for when we're supposed to have that position filled do we know i know it's very vague sorry bad timing for music sorry

Your question is clear. I do not know when the inspector general is to be appointed, so I know that council has been discussing that from time to time, and I don't know when that's on calendar again.

But do they have, like, a deadline when they have to have it filled? Is that a thing, or is it just open? Because you know how, like, for example... In some job postings, for example, if you do a city or a county one, it has a deadline when it's closed. I don't recall from the last voting if we have a deadline or when it's just a very vague, it gets filled, it gets filled type of a thing.

So to my knowledge, there is no deadline. I know that they have gone through the application process and they have been taking applications. But as far as a deadline, they don't have a deadline. I know that they're working hard to try and appoint someone, but there is technically no deadline to my knowledge.

Yeah, that's my understanding also. We can look more into it and give you an update at the next meeting if you would like that.

And then I have one more broad question too, sorry. Okay, so let's say, for example, if we take this recommendation of saying that for the Charter Review Committee, a recommendation would be that the Inspector General is the one that chooses and appoints the members of the Board of Ethics. But let's say we don't. have um an inspector general then also too we should have a byline where it's like okay if there's no inspector general to a point then it falls upon back to the other source of being appointed by the city council members like that should be something else that we consider where

don't have an inspector general and like we have these spaces filled then we go back to sorry we go back to how it used to be where it's the mayor and the city council members yeah and that's the board members and that's a good idea and you know again that's why we're presenting what we have so far to you know to get ideas to flesh it out more because you know for the most part it's only been the two of us right um and this is the whole point of us bringing it to everyone to get some feedback to get some new ideas some fresh ideas um because that's that's important to us to as far as how this develops and comes together so i appreciate your feedback

and just when you know adding on to the fact that in in the process that what we're doing we're learning too and we're seeing some other options as well as to the you know the aspect of this whole setup would would really you know have the benefit of all the cities that we looked at and And, you know, what we've seen so far is not that bad to a certain degree. And there's some other things, you know, we can pick and choose as we go in the process. But we're just about there. We've just got to get it together and then make it sort of understandable for all of us to understand.

And I totally appreciate both of you guys, like, taking the time to do the research, do research. like the reaching out and everything, because that's huge. And you guys bring us all the information so that way it's easier for us to digest and as a group have good conversations. So thank you. I both appreciate your time doing this.

Yeah, I don't think it's just on a whim. I mean, we've met with other Board of Ethics members from other cities. We've had sit-downs and discussions. You know, how they're structured, their process, you know, San Diego, L.A., what's another one? Oakland. Oakland. So, you know, we've met with quite a few individuals over this process. to come up with these ideas and how we think we could best serve the residents in the process and the structure for the Board of Ethics. So some of the other ideas that we had were making the... the pre-hearing process and the complaint the complaint process private because I know I've seen it many times where near an election time whether the complaint has merit or not you know people can weaponize the complaints because all of it gets made public A lot of times there's over-dramatization of the complaint, in my opinion. And we believe that if the pre-hearing process and the complaint were kept private until the Board of Ethics determined that there was enough evidence to move forward with the hearing and then made that hearing public.

but again just an idea and we wanted to get some input and some thoughts you know and this will this will start to gel in a little bit as we proceed and and add on we're going to have you know we have a lot of information and and it's just a matter of putting it in in a any presentable, understandable ideas. And it doesn't have to, you know, that's not, you know, it doesn't have to be considered the model for us. And that's when all of you will come in and you can take a look at it and look at your input and even ask questions because, again, we all represent the public.

Go ahead.

Yeah, I echo what everyone has said. Thank you so much for taking your time to do some of the research on this. I know I am a newer board member, but I've kind of been thinking about this board in three areas. The first area being the members itself. The second area being the code of ethics itself, just how it exists. and um and then the third the violation of the code of ethics and i think what i'm hearing you guys say is you you've thought through um the first two of the structure and then also the code of ethics itself the area i look forward to hearing more about is how this structure impacts the complaints and when a complaint happens and then we go through the conference process. What is the result of that process or what is the result of the conference? Because right now my understanding is Um, the result is that goes to city council. And so if this would that go instead to city council, to the inspector general and just kind of what would that structure look like there?

Right. So that's a good question. And we did think about that because obviously, you know, we wanted to know as well. And, you know, the complaint would still be filed with the city clerk. There's not a lot of change to the structure of the Board of Ethics. It's just changing certain things. Again, just to add to like the whole transparency, accountability thing. And to make it so that the Board of Ethics isn't weaponized against public officials as well. So we want to be able to even it out. So as far as the process, it already exists. You know, the complaint is filed with the city clerk. You know, the city clerk determines whether it was filled out properly and then brings it to our attention. You know, we then move forward with a pre-hearing to determine whether there's enough, if, you know, the complaint was, you know, has has enough merit to move forward with an actual hearing. The way we are thinking of having it structured is the complaint is still filed with the city clerk and then moves on to the inspector general. The inspector general presents it to the board of ethics. Essentially, what we're creating is an extra pair of eyes for the whole process, right? Because my opinion is that the more people that, in a way, the more people that are involved, it kind of adds to the accountability aspect of it. right so there's an extra pair of eyes you know the the inspector general brings it before the board of ethics we're actually um you know but the difference would be it would be kept private usually it's it's you know uh the way the process is right now is it's made public the complaint is made public and then the pre-hearing conference is public as well and i've seen and been through quite a few pre-hearing conferences myself to to know you know how how it unfolds and oftentimes there isn't merit to the complaint so this would have I believe would eliminate Wouldn't say eliminate. Maybe keep some individuals from filing complaints without merit just because it wouldn't be made public unless the complaint had merit and moved forward with a hearing. Do you see what I mean? But the Inspector General would still bring it before the Board of Ethics and the Board of Ethics would still determine whether the complaint meets if any of the prohibited conduct was violated and if there's enough evidence to move forward with a hearing.

And I know, you know, you're new, and so you haven't seen some of the aspects when we've gone through a hearing, but we're looking at... Frivolity in there. But one aspect that we discovered in our research is the fact that the aspect of keeping it private in the beginning and looking at some of the issues there, what it does is it protects really both the complainant and the respondent. Correct. So that way it's not a public mess out there at the same time, and it only comes out and it becomes public when proof exists. And facts have been probably...

Evidence has been looked at and determined whether there is enough to move forward with it.

Exactly. And that's good. That's one of the good parts. And that's what we want to keep preserving as we go through the changes in the process.

The other... Oh, go ahead.

So like in case you're thinking of like an example of, I'll give you an example of a previous hearing that we had that was meritless. Someone placed a complaint about a council member because they didn't respond to their email. And they thought that was like an ethics violation. That's like, it wasn't an ethics violation not to respond to someone's, email. That's an example of just one of the previous ones where I was kind of like, huh.

and you know that was that was the perfect one to bring up because again there was no prohibited violation there was no prohibited conduct violation but um the complaint was filled out properly and so because of that it moved on to a pre-hearing which you know then gets made public and you know

And it looks like, you know, that they got like an ethics complaint, but it wasn't, no prohibited conduct was done. It was just, they didn't get a response to an email type of a thing where, yeah.

I'm vice chair and board just wanted to mention this to say that it does not go through I know there's plenty of research with I too appreciate you all doing the research but say that it stays with the City Council for the selection of the Board of Ethics would there be a possibility to add closed sessions um to the bylaws for the board of ethics that will provide an opportunity for such hearings to be in closed sessions just in case um you know it doesn't go through with the inspector general being the appointed or appointee, you're appointed by the inspector general. Just a thought there. Secondly, we're mentioning the previous claims from the claimant to certain city council members. Just want to add that all previous Board of Ethics and some of the other commissions are online, and then also the minutes and agendas as well, just for the record, so that we can also do our research and go back and review some of those claims. Just wanted to put that out there as well.

So that would be the process for the pre-hearing is, you know, to have it in a closed session, again, so that, you know, there's no, you know, it's not made public and it's not, again, the way that we're trying to approach this is so that it's, fair to the public official, but also still gives the residents the opportunity to bring about complaints against the public official if they did violate the prohibited conduct. So in our research and the way we're structuring this is we're trying to look at it and trying to even it out as best as possible so that it's fair for both sides. You know, obviously, again, some, you know, a couple of us have been through some pre hearings and some hearings. So that experience plays into our research and our you know, our approach to some of these ideas. So that's the whole point of some of these is, again, to structure it in a way that makes the board more independent from city council, but at the same time makes it fair for city council so that the board is not weaponized against them when there isn't something like a violation of the prohibited conduct. So, that has been our approach the whole time when it comes to this, and this is why we're, again, we're bringing it to the rest of the board to get more ideas, to see, you know, if you guys have any other ideas, opinions. Because we want to get that feedback because, again, the more ideas, the more people that take a look at it, we feel like we would be able to flesh it out a little bit more to get better structure. So, again, any feedback is welcome then. We appreciate it. Any other questions?

Yeah, I don't want to. Yeah, I didn't want to add into anything else like that. I said, let it digest a little bit. But in a sense, we're not saying that we're dealing with enemies here or anybody else. But when you look at the whole picture, what's going on. Like essentially right now, we as the ethics board go through the process of a complaint. Public person comes in, they make the complaint. It doesn't matter what type of complaint it is. It's the opportunity for them to complain. And that's their right. And so we don't care if it's, you know, frivolity, you know, it may be frivolity to you, but it may not, you know, it's not to them. And they go through the whole process. So at least they see that process. But what happens is, in some cases, and, you know, again, I'm not trying to demean anything or whatever, but most of our cases that we had was against the city council. Now, the process is, you know, we go through it. We make a decision. But the final decision goes with... The city council. You understand what I'm saying? You know, I say, so we have complaints against the city council, and we're filtering through, and then we have a recommendation to the city council. The city council don't have to approve that. And it's against them. So that's... you know that's what what prompted this to to come into being uh again like what mr hernandez was saying uh we started out really was you know um uh well uh we started out with uh uh uh the legal the the legal uh what would um how do we start out with our researching outside council yeah um um having having you know certain powers along that way yeah yes what was that subpoena there you go that's what i'm trying to think i forgot so with that when as we went through the process we started learning a whole different field all together and it started to realize that that you know even some of these meetings you know that we have with the mayor you know being with the city of Riverside, we're moving along and everything else. We found out, wait a minute, we're falling behind. We've fallen behind in certain cities as far as these processes of which the ethics board was a big thing. If you ask San Diego, L.A., Oakland, San Francisco, we've done all those. You ask them all. The bottom line that's common to them is the fact that the ethics board is an independent entity to the government. It's very important to have that and give confidence and to really educate the public as far as why that is so important to protect for their own rights and well-being. And we're getting that together. But you'll start to see that's the whole process. Every entity we have, anything in government, there's got to be somebody they answer to. And that's what keeps government transparent.

Then the other reason we wanted to tie the Board of Ethics to the Inspector General was instead of the Board of Ethics having investigative and subpoena power, the Inspector General will already have those powers. it would come through you know let's say there is a process where there is evidence presented but the board would like you know more information the inspector general has the powers to be able to proceed with that but we have the idea that it would come through like a vote through the board to be able to request that you know the inspector general proceed with an investigation and look for more information so that the board itself doesn't necessarily have those powers because that was one of the concerns of city council, but it still exists. through the inspector general and because the board of ethics would be tied to the inspector general they would work hand in hand it's kind of like that again that the level of accountability where you know one body doesn't have more power than the other

so like another possible idea that we're thinking of is, so we go through the pre-conference and then we go to the conference and then if we find them, um, you know, in violation of one of the prohibited, um, conduct or conduct prohibited, you know, by, um, the ethics, then instead of so we're thinking instead of it going to the city council for what the repercussions are going to be of the violation, maybe instead it will go to the inspector general to decide.

Correct. And we're still looking at that because, you know, obviously San Diego, all of these cities have a different process as far as the penalties. Because that has always been my problem with the structure is, you know, again, where Gil mentioned is, you know, we find that a city council member violated the prohibited conduct rule. But yet we have to provide the recommendation to city council to, you know, to either censure themselves or something else. It's like if I went to my son, you know, he broke a rule and I said, hey, son, you know, what do you think your punishment should be? He's going to be like, I got this, dad, you know, like, you know. So I think with the Board of Ethics having that independence through the inspector general, you know, It just works really well, and I believe not only would it make it fair for the city council members, but also for the residents who are filing a complaint. Again, the privacy thing isn't just one way. As Gil mentioned, there's a lot of individuals who... would probably refrain from filing a complaint because it gets made public. They don't want to be embarrassed as well. What if they go through the process and it doesn't go through? So, you know, it's for both parties. And that's the process that we've been looking at through all of this is, again, how can we make it fair for everybody?

Thank you for that clarification. That answered my original question is because we're doing a change in structure of our board, then that means there is a change in the process. And if there is a validity in complaints, then that would no longer go to city council. You're suggesting that that would go to the inspector general.

Correct. Well, so far, the way we have it structured. And again, it's merely ideas based on the research that we've done so far. We're open to different ideas. Again, none of it is set in stone, obviously, because we haven't brought it technically before the board to vote on. It's just ideas. So we will present a report. to you guys to give you an idea of like some of the research that we've done how we want to structure it that way we can bring it up for further discussion and you know if you guys have any ideas to better the the process the structure we're we're always open to that sorry when is the charter um review committee when do they meet is that in august or in july when is that

OK, so per the charter, they're supposed to convene every eight years. So there is no charter review committee yet. But once the election of the council members for awards two, four, and six are installed, OF NOVEMBER, THEN THERE WILL BE A RECRUITMENT FOR THOSE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE MEMBERS, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO PROBABLY CONVENE THEM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE IN JANUARY OR AS SOON AS POSSIBLE IN 2027 SO THAT THEY CAN CONSIDER ANY AMENDMENTS AND PRESENT THEM TO THE COUNCIL BY MAY OF 2027 FOR THE MARCH 2028 GENERAL ELECTION. That's the tentative timeline.

Thank you.

So we still have some time, but obviously that can go by really quickly, especially since we only meet once a month. So like I said, that's why we're getting the process started with all of this as far as bringing it to the board because we want to have something to present before city council and governmental process committee and all that stuff before it moves to the charter review commission once the members are appointed. So any other questions? Any feedback? No? All right. So we can go ahead and move on to...

I'm sorry. Go ahead. I'm sorry. So for this ad hoc committee, are we going to keep that on the discussion calendar, or do I need to ask?

At the end of the meeting. You already did? No. Oh, wait, what? I thought we had to do it at the end of the meeting.

So we'll do that at the end?

Yeah, at the end of this agenda, we could ask for what's coming for future items. Okay, perfect.

Thank you. Any other questions? No? alright so now we're moving on to item number six communications so this is I guess the reports from the ad hoc committee updates the one on public the one on public education public outreach we haven't met so there's nothing to report Which other ones are there? The annual review of the Code of Ethics and Conduct. Again, we haven't met, so there's nothing to report from there. And then the annual report to City Council. That one's members Vega, Perkins, and Threno. And have you guys met? no okay so nothing to report there either okay and then number item number seven board member updates do we have any do you have any member updates from board members any meetings do you attended anything

So I'll go, Vice Chair. I volunteered to present to the Human Resources Board this past Monday, June 1st, related to the Code of Ethics. And one of the items that was, they appreciated us presenting, of course, but they also had just one question related to the Core Values digital online process. that was adopted by the city council on May 19th, 2026. However, we did have senior deputy city attorney, Ruth Ann Salara, who presented after me for the Brown Act. So she touched based on that question that was presented for the Code of Ethics for the Board of Ethics. And I did mention to the chair at the time of Human Resources Board that they too can send their recommendations to the city clerk. Nice.

Okay. Thank you for that update.

You're welcome.

Anything else to report? Any members? No? Okay. Item number eight, staff updates. Staff updates.

Thank you, Vice Chair Hernandez. I just wanted to share that we have given you a schedule of the upcoming Board and Commission meetings when they're targeting their Code of Ethics presentation and the Brown Act training. The Brown Act training will be presented by the City Attorney's Office, but the Code of Ethics is presented usually the Board of Ethics volunteers to go to their meetings and present that code. So we have three meetings still that we need to try to plug in For presentation, if you are available, we'd appreciate it. Or email us if you think you can make it or not. That would be great. And I think that's all I have. Do you guys want to share those with me? Yes, Member Drano.

For the review, I assume that the presentation is already created?

It is. The presentation is created. The presentation follows along the way the municipal code is laid out, section by section. We did highlight those most recent changes, and you just have to follow the presentation. So it's just laid out that way.

So I'll sign up for the Commission of the Deaf Wednesday, June 10th. That one's at 5.30 p.m.

Thank you. Appreciate you guys presenting those things, the Code of Ethics presentation. That's all I have.

So can we still discuss who can sign up for this?

Oh, you're very welcome.

We're a team here. Yes, yes. I was about to add myself to the Commission of Deaf, but Vice Chair, thank you.

Well, I work 8 to 5, so it's hard for me to make some of these. Yes. So, you know, if somebody wants to trade, like, I know there's someone who has, like, a 631. Where is that one? there's one at 6 30 and 5 30 uh miss perkins i believe has both of those so i don't know if if um you know if those if you're able to maybe do another one that's at a different time so that we can trade or That way you guys aren't having to carry all the load as far as doing the presentations.

It's my pleasure, Mr. Chair.

All right.

Please don't go anywhere.

Do we know if the airport commission meets at the airport?

Thank you for your question. All the board and commissions meet in this room, in the chamber.

Wonderful.

Yeah.

Okay. What does CAO mean?

Commission on Aging.

Oh. They say Commissioning on Aging assigned at the end?

Let's see. Monday, June 8th.

yes it looks so I volunteered for the Commission on Aging on Monday June 15th no I was wondering the letter CAO at the end City Attorney

Are there sign-ups right now?

No?

Okay. All right. And then item number nine, items for future board consideration as requested by us, the Board of Ethics. So any requests for future discussions?

No. You want to the, what was it, our ad hoc committee?

yeah the number five did you want that for the future to add it on the future you want to bring back that discussion regarding the proposed amendments yes okay I do have a question July 2nd is the day before the holiday weekend so I don't know

Can I get back to you? I want to do one, but I'm not sure yet.

We'll confirm your availability.

July the 2nd?

Yes. And then in August, you'll be considering your code of ethics and any recommendations by the other board and commissions. So at this point, this will be your only discussion item is the proposed amendment proposed. The ad hoc committee's report in July? Is that all you want in July? Yeah.

So far, yeah. Okay. And I'd still like to have a meeting that day. It's not like 4th of July, but obviously, hopefully the other members will show up too. Right. Okay.

May I mention also, if any of the other ad hocs happen to meet between now and the next meeting and you have something that you would like to present, it can either stay under an update, just as an update, or if you want feedback and you want discussion regarding your own ad hoc committee discussions, you can reach out and ask us to put it on discussion. Thank you.

So anything else? No? All right. I will go ahead and adjourn the Board of Ethics meeting for today. Thank you all.