Planning Commission - Regular Meeting

Alright. Take two. We'll call tonight's meeting to order at 05:31. And then, clerk, can we have you call roll and announce the video recording? Yeah.

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top, Kelly?

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Alright. We're gonna call to order at 05:35. And if we can have you call roll and announce the video recording, please, caller? Yes.

So commissioner Deborah Polly?

Present.

Commissioner Frechette?

Here.

Commissioner Hewn?

Here.

Commissioner Raymond is absent. Commissioner Stoss? Here. Vice chair Stevenson?

Here.

And chair Molding? Here. Molden. Thank you. Tonight's meeting will be recorded via Zoom and can be viewed on the city's website within forty eight hours of adjournment of this meeting.

Thank you. And commissioner Sauce is gonna lead us in the pledge of allegiance.

Salute. I pledge allegiance

to the Republic Of The United States Of America and to the republic for which it stands,

one nation under God, indivisible,

with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you. On that note, excuse me, we'd like to recognize commissioner Sauce's birthday. We will not be singing happy birthday because yours is very welcome. That's my gift to you.

Thank you.

But we have a cake with a lot of candles.

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Alright. Moving on to public comments. Members of the public wishing to address the Planning Commission for any matter not on the agenda may do so at this time by completing and submitting a speaker card to the Planning Commission clerk. For items on the agenda, speakers will be called by the chair at the point on the agenda when the item will be heard. Speakers are encouraged to keep comments to three minutes or less and to state name and community of residence. Under the provisions of the California government code, the Planning Commission is prohibited from discussing or taking immediate action on any item not on the agenda unless it can be demonstrated to be of an emergency nature or the need to take immediate action arose after the posting of the agenda. Consent calendar items number five. Consent calendar items can Actually,

our general public comment period Thank

you so much. Can we open public comment?

Yes. I have one speaker card from Helen William Thank you.

Greetings. I'm Helen William Bashaw from the Tiffany area. I'm going to bring up a pet peeve that I have at every one of these meetings. I cannot hear you. You're not talking into your mics. You need to turn your mics up because almost everything you said tonight, mister chair, I couldn't hear you. You're speaking like you're talking to a group of friends. There are people out in the audience. Please make it known. Speak a little louder. Speak into your mics. Thank you.

I have no additional speaker card.

Excuse me. Sorry, bud. Have I made my

He was are you not on 7.1?

Oh, I'm sorry. You're not on 7.1. I was the opening.

Yeah. This is the the general.

I stand correct.

Okay. I just wanted to make sure that your general public comment or for okay. Then, yes, Mr. Ladd, please. Sorry. That was my mistakes. I

speaking of many candles, I'm pushing 70. This is a voice from the previous century speaking to you. And the comments I wanna address to well, Monday is Groundhog Day. If you've seen the movie, it goes over and over and over again. So on Wednesday, the federal government starts this open debate on the safe level of perchlorate in drinking water, which is a Rancho Cordova issue.

And I've been through five plus of those processes, so it's been over and over and over again. Now when this city was formed, the magic moment when we got approval from LAFCO was when Lauren Hammond, then Sacramento City Council person and future gaming state gaming commissioner, received information that the drinking water limit for perchlorate was gonna be one parts per billion. And and that she tipped her hand when she said it would be up to the people of Rancho Cordova to decide what was safe drinking water. So, since and that's gonna be you all's decision. I'm not gonna be around when this finally gets resolved.

So I'm just calling that to your attention that that debate is starting again. And, close with a quote from my trench buddy, Dave Roberts, this room is named after, since Rio Del is here. Back in 1996, Dave Roberts was fond of saying, Rio Del Oro is Gold River spelled backwards. And, the the sentiment is, you know, things didn't go very well for this community water wise when they created Gold River in 1985. So that's why I'm asking you to pay attention, to the upcoming debate about what constitutes safe drinking water, especially for the older part of Rancho. Thank you.

I have no additional speaker cards for this item.

Okay. Thank you. Then we'll close general public comment. And on to consent calendar items. Consent calendar items consist of matters deemed routine and noncontroversial by staff. Unless a member of the Planning Commission wishes to pull an item for individual consideration, all items will be approved by one motion. Are there any items Planning Commission wishes to pull from the consent calendar? Clerk, are there any public comments related to the consent calendar?

I have no speaker cards for this item.

May I have a motion to approve the consent calendar?

I move.

K. Commissioner Deborah Polly?

I'll second.

And a second by commissioner Forschette.

Clerk, can we have a call roll, please? Commissioner Deborah Polly? Yes. Commissioner Forschette?

Aye.

Commissioner Hune?

Abstained.

Commissioner Raymon is absent. Commissioner Stoss? Aye. Vice Chair Stevenson? Aye. And Chair Molden? Yes. Motion passes with a five oh vote.

Thank you. Okay. Item six. There are no consent public hearing items. And item seven, clerk, will you please announce the subject?

Rio Del Oro Business Park major design review project number PLNDDDash0925Dash0139. CEQA exempt per section one five one eight three projects consistent with a community plan, general plan, or zoning.

Thank you. And we have a staff report.

Alrighty. Good evening, chair commissioners. My name is Nick Sosa with the city's planning department. Tonight, I'll be presenting the Rio De La Aurora Business Park major design review project.

So

for some background on the project, the subject property includes three lots totaling approximately 18.7 acres and is located on the southwest corner of the intersection of Goldridge Way and Rancho Cordova Parkway. So the property is zoned MP, which is light industrial within the Rio Del Oro specific plan, and this specific plan provides the applicable information for the site regarding allowed land uses, development standards, and design guidelines for development within the area. This specific plan along with the Rancho Cordova zoning code were utilized for review of this project. So tonight, the applicant is requesting a major design review for the development of three industrial flex buildings. These buildings include approximately 252,730 square feet of warehouse storage space and approximately 26,000 square feet of accessory office space.

As a warehouse project, the design also includes AD loading docks and also all required side elements such as on-site drainage, basins, parking areas, landscaping, and lighting throughout the site. So shown here is the project location, both an aerial and zoning map version of it. So in the red on both maps, you can see that the site is located south of the existing Amazon building on the corner of Gold Goldridge and Rancho Cordova Parkway. On the right is the image of the zoning and showing the surrounding area. And you can see that to the West is a BP zone parcel, which is business park.

To the North is Light Industrial, which is where the current Amazon center is. To the East is a community park and a high school and middle school location shown there in the green and the blue colors. And south is a green belt followed by medium density hounds housing just on on the opposite side of that green belt. Shown here is the overall site plan for the project. The site plan includes three ingress and egress locations, two along Gold Ridge Way and one along Rancho Cordova Parkway.

The project proposes three buildings. Building 1 is the largest of the three. That's the one to the north, and that's along Goldridge Way and includes a total of a 112,825 square feet. A 105,000 square feet of that is warehouse storage area and 7,000 is accessory office space. The building also includes 30 loading docks in the rear for this building.

Building 2 in the back of the site is a total of a 103,690 square feet. That's the one located to the south. 94,690 square feet of that is warehouse storage space, and 9,000 square feet would be accessory office in that location. This building has a total of 29 loading docks in the rear of the building. Building 3, which is the building to the east, is the smallest with a total of 65,920 square feet.

55,920 of that is warehouse storage with 10,000 square feet remaining as accessory office space. In the rear of that building, you'll have 21 loading dock doors proposed. As you can see on the site plan, the orientation of the buildings of has the storefront areas facing outwards with the loading dock areas in the rear internal to the site. For the curve along Goldridge Way, it does have some visibility of the loading docks from Building 3. However, the applicant is also proposing a screen wall, which you can see is that red line there.

So it's a CMU block screen wall, eight feet tall, in combination with, some landscaping along that edge as well. There will be a rendering later on in the presentation so you can see a visible the visible of that. So the site also provides adequate parking for warehouse and accessory office use in this area. The parking areas are distributed throughout the parcel so that there's no one area that becomes a sea of parking. Right now, there's no designated tenants.

It is being designed as a spec kinda warehouse storage building with accessory office. Any future tenants that are taken into these buildings would be reviewed at that time, for any additional requirements or anything that's required for additional parking or things like that. So so shown here is building one elevations. So the next couple of slides are the building elevations for each building. All three buildings maintain an overall design concept, so they are similar in appearance.

This building is the largest, which I mentioned faces Goldridge Way and Amazon. And you can see that the main entries are highlighted with metal awnings painted in an electric green color. So that highlighter green color there to highlight those entrances and storefront areas. It's all that accent color is also also brought into the tower features to help break up some of those longer, facade walls. And then in addition to the electric green, there is also a variation of light and dark grays throughout the building for an, modern industrial look for the buildings.

There's also a variation of materials with, metal siding, trellis features, and, of course, storefront windows for those entryways. Shown here is Building 2, which is the middle sized building that faces the rear of the site toward the future green belt. This building also incorporates the gray color scheme and electric green accent color, metal awnings, trellises, and, again, those storefront windows. Shown here is the smallest of the three buildings, Building 3, which faces Rancho Cordova Parkway. You can again see the gray color scheme, electric green accent colors, metal awnings, trellises, and storefront windows, which is consistent with the design concept for the overall industrial park.

This is a rendering of Building 3 from Rancho Cordova Parkway, so this would be facing towards the industrial business park. Here is the renderings from Gold Ridgeway looking towards the loading dock area of Building 3. You can see the added screen wall there, which extends from the edge of the building outwards. It does screen a majority of the loading docks in the back. But, again, with that curve, there are some open areas.

But I'll go over it in the landscape plan. There are some additional tree plantings in those areas. So you can see this is the eight foot CMU block screen wall. It sits on the opposite side of the parking lot. So this is from about the middle of Goldridge Way crossing those lanes.

You can see there's a parking lot there, landscaping, and then you have the block wall. The image on the top would show landscaping at installation, so once it's installed. And then the second image at the bottom is an anticipated fifteen year rendering of what those trees and landscaping would look like, the shrubs, at that growth rate. This here is the landscape plan for the project. So the project includes three drainage basins areas, one along the rear, one right behind Building 3, and then there's a small one right there adjacent to Building 2.

Those basins will be landscaped with native grasses for filtration. The applicant also included a number of trees along the perimeter of the site to help soften up the look of the buildings and also to meet shade requirements for both parking areas and along pedestrian walkways. Evergreen tree evergreen trees were also strategically placed at the entrance between Building 1 and Building 3. That was kind of that curve area where there's some visibility of the loading docks, but we did ensure that those are evergreen or native live oak trees so that they are providing some screening year round. And, of course, throughout the site, there's also shrubs and ground cover.

So for staff's environmental review, staff determined that the project is exempt from further CEQA analysis pursuant to section one five one eight three, projects consistent with the community plan general plan and zoning. The proposed project was reviewed and determined to be in conformity with the existing zoning, community plan, and general plan policies that were reviewed in the general plan EIR as well as the Rio Del Oro specific plan EIR and EIS. With this project being in conformity, no further CEQUA review or environmental review was required. So with that, staff is recommending that the planning commission determine the project exempt per section one five one eight three and that they adopt the resolution for the Rio De La Oro Business Park major design review subject to the findings and project plans in exhibit a and conditions of approval in exhibit b. So before I turn it over to questions, the applicant did wanna make a brief comment just about their project, I can hold them up.

Good evening, chair and commissioners. Appreciate the opportunity to speak. I'll be really brief. My name is Tyler Williams. I with the developer, VanTrust Real Estate. We're a family held real estate company by the VanTile family based out of Kansas City, Missouri. I am out of their Salt Lake City office. We are so excited about this project, and I just wanted to thank many of of you that we've worked with. Nick Sousa has been so helpful throughout the whole process. We've met many, many times and over the phone or email and and in person.

Also wanted to thank, Arlene and Darcy and Ashley and Kwok and Margarita and Eileen, so many that have been involved on this project. And we really pride ourselves on communication, and we really like to receive feedback from the community. We did hold a neighborhood meeting. We had some comments. Not a not a whole lot of people showed up, but we we heard what they were telling us, and we've tried to really incorporate all the feedback to date.

Also wanted to thank Price Walker, who's here with us tonight, and all of his support. Obviously, he's had a huge effect on, this city and and, Elliot Holmes, specifically. So wanted to just touch on just a couple of things real quick. You know, we we heard through comments and through discussions with with Nick and others at the city, you know, we really have tried to orient our buildings so that they're not facing the street. So the truck courts are kinda internal for the most part.

We've added the screen wall. Done several things that we really, you know, thought were meaningful and helpful because we do care about nearby residents and and others. And I think, you know, the tenants that we're really going after, because this is a speculative development, are gonna be in that $10.15, 20,000, 25,000 square foot range. So smaller tenants, and we're gonna be, you know, catering to tenants like, Worldpac that's here in the city, that has some car supplies that they're distributing and warehousing. Gem Air, another tenant that we have looked at, HVAC supply type of company, Repcor plumbing.

So we want to help distributors and and businesses here in the city that have inefficient truck courts and don't have the ability to be as efficient. So we we we think that this product is really needed here, and we, anyway, appreciate your time. We agree with with, Nick's report here and and ask for your approval. Thank you.

Thank you. Do you have any public comment?

We received one public comment via email from James Garcia that was distributed to planning commission posted on our website and is available in the back of the room. I have received one speaker card from Helen Wayland Bashall. Can we open the public hearing?

Yes. We'll go ahead and open public comment.

So if you could open public hearing, and then we can take public comment.

Yes. We will open the public hearing Okay. Take public comment. Again,

my name is Helen William Bashaw, and I'm from the Tiffany area. I'm a little concerned because I think they said the walls are eight feet tall. If you look at a b 98 and s b four one five, that effective 01/01/2026, the minimum height for screening structures within a project buffer zone is 10 feet. The structure must be used to fully screen new and expanded warehouses from sensitive areas, schools, homes, parks, etcetera, located within 900 feet of the project. I am concerned because of the landscaping.

You they talk about the landscape and my big concern is what does the city have to protect the builder from once the site is built that they rip out all the landscaping and put in a solar field? We have just, down the street from City Hall, there is a business that turned their parking lot into a solar field. That is a big concern because then it becomes an eyesore and it becomes an environmental issue also because it goes against the reason why you put shrubs in. I'm not sure if you folks saw or read the SB, the Assembly Bill, AB 98 or the Senate Bill, SB, one five. But currently, the project as presented does not meet the requirements of those two elements.

Thank you.

Thank you. Do you have any other comments?

I have no additional speaker cards on this item.

Okay. So we'll close the public comment period.

Can you close the public hearing?

Close the public hearing. Okay. And are there oh. Oh. Oh, hey.

Woah. Okay. Woah. Yeah.

Just in time for commission comments, questions. Who would like to start?

I'll go. Nick, first off, do a d 98 and the s p four fifty one apply in this case? Is was this adopted be I'm not sure. I know there's some depending on when the bills are signed in the law, may change as do those apply to this case?

So in speaking with the city attorney, the a b 98 is applicable to projects that are within 900 feet of sensitive receptors Mhmm. That as was mentioned is daycares, schools, things like that. At this time, there's nothing out there that's built in existing as a sensitive receptor, so it would not be applicable to this project.

Okay. We do know that there is a high school and junior high plan kitty corner across the intersection from this. So but because they don't exist, we'd just ignore that planning?

Correct. So because it's not currently developed and we don't know what that design looks like until until the school is designed, then it wouldn't apply at this time.

Okay. Couple of questions I had that came up, and I don't know if you can answer this or the developer. The metal on the building, is that painted? Is that anodized? Is that galvanized? I'm curious how that's gonna age.

We can have somebody from the applicant speak on that. Yeah.

I

believe that will be, I think I believe it'll be paid it on. Okay.

Another question for you since you're Yeah. Please. Your CMU wall, is that gonna be a smooth face, a split face, any kind of decorative design in the CMU wall?

Yeah. So we've envisioned kind of a split face. And I think I think in the package, Nick, we had a little image. Did we have the of the the screen wall there?

It's in the project plans.

Mhmm. Yeah.

Be both.

Split wall, CMU wall that has some some design to it.

Okay. Thank you. Well, I'm gonna stick with the wall because that was lower on my questions. But before, Eve, the questions about 8098 came up, I have a problem with the eight foot height given that your typical truck van is a 12 foot height. You know, I'd like to see either a 10 or even a 12. I don't know if the engineering allows 12 without some kind of without special engineering. But is there any reason that we couldn't go to 10 foot on the CMU wall?

So we we I appreciate appreciate the comment. I think, you know, we've explored several different options, I think, between landscaping and some screening. What we looked at was the view corridor, right, from the furthest away, which I think was across the street. We we kinda looked at it, and eight foot would clear all the trucks and all the docks. So that was kind of the justification for that.

The base is

It's just an angle. It's just the angle. Right? So Yeah. If you're looking at you know, if you're closer to the wall, you're gonna miss it completely. But the further away you get, right, so across the street, that angle completely, hides the docks.

Because this is a sensitive subject.

Sure. No. No.

Totally totally agree. Other warehouse projects that have been, before us and city council, they have been required to do a 10 foot wall. So Yeah. You know, that is something I would like to see that standard continue, yeah, as far as the wall goes.

If I could add something as well. The the loading dock areas are below grade.

Okay.

Though the trucks would be sitting a little lower than at grade dock areas, so that might help a little bit with the screening for the the viewpoint that Heather was mentioning from Goldridge Way.

Okay. I mean, I don't wanna sit here and add on a bunch of cost to a project, but it didn't seem like that was a big ask in terms of

You know, we're we're willing to do that. If that if that gets sorry, commissioner. I didn't mean

to interrupt you. No. Go ahead. Please.

If that's important, we're willing to bear that additional cost and make it 10 foot.

Yeah. That would be important to me. Yeah. Will do. Appreciate that. Will do. You bet.

We can we can add that as a additional condition of approval so that we can continue to move forward.

Perfect. Thank you, Nick. Then and I I had some questions that I had mentioned earlier. I'm a little curious about traffic with the Amazon facility directly across the street. You know, we have up to, saying, less than a thousand trips daily, but I interpret that meaning up to, well, nine nine, you know, nine nine nine.

So the combination of the potential traffic generated from this facility depending on, you know, who the tenant is in Amazon, I'm curious how that's gonna work. You know, what are the routes that we would expect that traffic to take? I'm concerned about the adjacency to the middle school and high school, both with traffic, and are there other issues? And I know that staff has done some work on the traffic studies. Is there anything you can share with me on that?

Sure. So for the traffic review of the project, we did review it with our public works department. Kwok and his team are here. If he could speak a little bit on what that process looked like for that review, that'd be great.

Good evening, chair. Good evening, commissioners. Yes. Public works did do, review a traffic study related to this project, and, there was a map update from the 2016 to the 2025. And with that map update, there was a a decrease in the amount of industrial land related to to Rio De Oro. And we from the traffic study, with this proposed project, this development would not substantially, change the, transportation network or the connecting, streets to the network.

Okay. I'm curious about the interaction between that traffic and, you know, the traffic that will be generated by the schools when they are built. What does that look like? Do we know yet, or has that been studied?

I would have to have support from our our consultants engineers here.

Good evening, commissioners. My name is Mario Tamblini with Ford Rogers, and I worked on the traffic memo for this project. So the question was related to how this traffic and potentially traffic from the Amazon neighboring project would interact with the future schools. So our study specifically focused on these industrial park, business park areas. So from the this business park project, from the Amazon warehouse, the neighboring industrial and business park parcels.

As Kwok mentioned, this project would actually result in less trips than what was originally zoned at this site. So there is a slight reduction in traffic project from this particular use, you know, which is good. We will see there could be a lot more intensive uses, higher trip generation, uses allowed under the specific zoning in this area. This is considered more on the lower end. We didn't specifically look at how the rest of the area would build out, so we don't know in our study specifics about that school site and what, you know, routes they would take, where their entrances, drop off areas would be, things of that nature.

So, you know, that's not something we really have details on. We we weren't looking at those portions of the specific plan area. But, you know, in general, I can say the the truck the trucks that are gonna be going in and out of this project, you know, there's gonna be tenants that come in. Those aren't known yet. And, typically, when they do, there's kind of truck routing plans for how they get in and out of the warehouses, and they're gonna be required to stay on specific roads, specific routes that have the least conflict, please.

You know

what those routes are yet? Or is

that Well, we don't. Mean,

that Okay. Typically decided when the tenants come in and those agreements get firmed up, at least in my experience. But you know, there'd be every effort typically to avoid going right by the schools or causing conflicts with arriving parents and children.

Okay. With the current traffic from the Amazon site, all that traffic comes on through Goldridge, and it's all accessed through Gold Dredge and through Fitzgerald and onto Sunrise. So it avoids Rancho Coral Parkway altogether.

Okay. Alright. Moving on away from the traffic, I'm a little it's not a it's not a deal breaker. I'm a little concerned that we all know there's gonna be a school there, and yet we're not we're kind of I'm not comfortable, you know, with the well, I'm just not comfortable that we're not acknowledging the school and planning for what the effects are. I'm not saying that there's necessarily bad effects with that, but I just feel that we need to air that out. Arlene, you wanna jump in, don't you?

Yeah. Commissioner Fischer, think I'm looking at Price here. I think he wants to make a comment about the

school, potentially. Love to hear your comments on this because I'm not trying to go negative on this, but I do wanna

I I appreciate it. Price Walker, vice president of Elliot Holmes. I I think that's a really good question. Obviously, the high school sites there, the elementary schools, all of the sites have not changed since the original specific plan approval. The only really things that have changed is a little bit of the reshuffling of of the industrial uses. Yeah. And they're all pretty minor. The overall traffic numbers from the from those minor changes are all down. Amazon, certainly, the size of it and and and what we ended up with was not necessarily what we contemplated, obviously, fifteen years ago. What a warehouse is today is not we didn't know what a logistics center even was.

Right? Never heard of the term. The overall numbers, though, from Amazon are much less than what could have gone on there with with, say, office buildings. This user is much more of a local user, a plumber, a tile guy, a a landscaper. So they're coming and going throughout the day differently, even a lower intensity. And so the overall numbers are down, commissioner. The but the overall traffic numbers have not changed from the the the residential, from the high school, from those. Those those were still in the projections. And so, certainly, staff, when they looked at it, took that into account. I think, overall, the traffic will actually be better.

Okay. I appreciate that. I just wanna make sure that, of course, benefit of the public that we're acknowledging and we're aware of.

Can I ask you a question tying under that? Yes. So when those schools get built Yes. I mean, that path of travel

Yes.

And that flow, is that going to be negotiated with the city at that point to take this into consideration? Say you do get a high end user that's blowing up Yeah. The road, like, will we take I just can imagine some, you know, 25, 16 year olds trying to barrel down that with all this stuff. Percent.

Rancho Corvo Parkway, which is the street right there along the building is it 3?

Yep.

Yeah. Building 3 and the high school is a six lane road. So it's it's it's designed for, obviously, a lot of traffic, sim similar to Zinfandel or some others. So it has been contemplated already and designed anticipating some pretty big traffic volumes, including the high school.

So I guess I would say my concern would be living off Coloma, which is the high school route now, is there's an accident every week. You know? And I know that six lanes is a freeway. So is there a way to mitigate that so that the to get to school, they're not going

that route?

Can we look at that?

Don't let 16 year old boys drive.

Right. Here. I'm just saying that that I

think the answer to that.

I think from the future, like, we're doing the infrastructure planning and our new general plan since we're talking about it, maybe finding a different route for the high schools.

Like

I mean, engineers look at look at traffic volumes, and, typically, what they do is build wider roads. Right? I mean, so we have we have six lane road out there. So I think the volume or the capacity will be there. I think it'll be really important that we signalize the right places, set stop signs the right places, do all the mitigation to keep the speeds down, or or you'll run into those same issues you have on Coloma.

Yeah. Sorry. Okay. Thanks for stealing your thunder. No problem. Couple more questions, and I'll try to, move out of here. Are there and, Nick, you may have the answer. Thank you, Price, by the way. I appreciate your comments. Are there any provisions for maintenance of effort with the tree plantings?

I know that my neighborhood, which is a great Elliot Homes development over in Stone Creek, You know, we had problems. Some of the tree plantings didn't take because we're in an old quarry, and that's to be expected. And, you know, that's the same thing we're dealing with out here. We're building on top of old dredger tailings and dredger slickens. And I would expect, I mean, you should expect that there are gonna be some failures from the tree planting. So I'm just curious if there's any mechanism set up for maintenance of efforts. So as that happens, those trees are you know, the whatever landscape doesn't take the first time is, you know, rejuvenated and

Yeah. So we we do review landscape installation once we do the planning approval and the building's built. So we make sure everything's built in its place and installed where it needs to be for the landscape plan. And then once it's installed, then we do keep an eye on survival for the the trees because I do understand what you're saying. It's kinda rocky out there.

And if there is anything that maybe dies or isn't replaced right away, then we do reach out to the property owners to have it replaced. So that's kind of we work with code enforcement on having having them be our eyes and ears out there, especially when trees that are required for, like, shade requirements, things like that, and screening are definitely a priority for us

as well. The city does already have a mechanism in place for ensuring. Yeah. Perfect. That's great.

Thank you. I guess I think my last question, which kinda went to the the heart of the approving the exemption has kinda been answered already by our public work staff, so I'm not gonna go into that. Just my last comment on this is that the traffic isn't necessarily a stopping point for me. It's just a point of concern that we're acknowledging that there are issues there. Overall, you know, we have this big long flight path in the city that kinda cuts through some prime area, and this is one of them.

And this is actually, you know, development like this. Warehouses and stuff is one of the few things that you can build there, and it seems entirely appropriate for this area. I know that, logistics centers and warehouses have been a point of contention in the city with in some of the neighborhoods, but this does seem, in my view, to fit well in that area. And it appears to me that there's been some pretty good work done to make this facility, even though we don't know who the tenant will be at, you know, fit in the future. And, you know, my only real concern or heartache was on the eight foot wall, and that seems to have been resolved.

Thanks to, you, Taylor. I appreciate that commitment. So, you know, I think at this point, I'm pretty comfortable with the project. Thank you.

So I have just a couple. The the the elevation details don't show the depth of the recessed docks. How how far are they recessed it down?

I'm not the applicant might be able to answer

that. Foot.

Four foot? Traditional. Yeah.

Four foot.

Okay. Then the other question I have is the neon green. That color is how did that get passed with our color? Because I'm I'm not sure I'm a fan of the neon green, to be honest. So I kinda wanna address that with staff. I mean, that's not in our everybody's laughing, so you must have all thought it. So talk to me about the neon green because I'm not I'm not on board with that.

We as for staff, we do encourage bold color choices and to highlight these entryways, but maybe the applicant can speak towards the choice of that color. If I can call the applicant to to the front, please.

You you like it?

No. Thanks for the comment. I think, you know, we're more flexible. And if we wanna look at some different shading, you know, we're totally open to that. So if if that's a a concern, absolutely, let's let's tweak that so to make it, you know, pleasant for everyone.

It's either that or I'm gonna go for bigger gallon trees in the landscape plan. So I'm I'm not a fan of the the green. That's just my opinion. But the rest of it, I concur with Lee. I think all my other questions were answered.

Yeah. No. We're happy to look at it.

Okay. Mhmm.

Yeah. Actually,

I have the traffic, question already discussed about so so long. So my answers my questions has answered. Nothing new for me. That's it.

Well, the color. There are a bunch of, warehouses over on Horn Road that you can see from, Folsom Boulevard that use the bold accents. And, while you know, I grew up in South Florida, and everything's pastel colors. Didn't like it. But when you do it as an accent like they did on Horn Road, it actually pretty cool.

And leave the the the extending the wall from eight foot to 10 foot is gonna add quite a bit of cost to the structural foundation, but I'm glad that stepped up to take care of that. My biggest concern is about the safety and welfare of the residents of Rancho Cordova and with the schools going in that really I I live right near Mills and Cordova High. And, honestly, if if if I have to drive 08:00 in the morning by there, I try to avoid it, or three in the afternoon. It is mayhem, and I I just don't feel comfortable driving around there. And to have big trucks running through, it's a six lane road.

I get it. Kids shouldn't be playing out on a six lane road like they do on Coloma. But it's gonna happen, and I don't wanna see anyone hurt or, god forbid, killed. But schools aren't there yet. Now these buildings, I'm extremely familiar with these buildings. They look I look at these buildings almost every day. I'm working on 16 of them up in Rockland right now, Placer Commerce. I did a lot of work on the ones in Tracy. My concern is that I don't want that part of Rancho starting to look like Tracy. To me, it's a blight.

But I understand that is the way commerce is moving. We're going away from shopping malls, going to this shopping online thing, and we need the fulfillment centers. We all love our next day delivery. I get it. But the other part of it is, and Lee frames it a little differently than I do. The way I look at it is I don't want my future self to regret any decisions we make today. Now we made a lot of decisions for International Drive. We made that into a six lane road because at the time, those buildings were the thing. Today, these buildings are the thing. Look at International Drive.

Almost completely vacant, six lane road, big investment, no revenue. Nothing's happening there. I don't want this to in fifteen years to turn out like that. So a few concerns there. I just and and the airline the the the air path, great application for this type of building.

But, again, I don't wanna build a whole bunch of these fulfillment centers and have them go vacant when we move on to a different way of doing things. What do we do with it then? But, you know, we talk about the traffic. You mentioned Repcor is one of the the potential tenants. I know them well.

They have one or two trucks per day running through there. And if the rest of the tenants are similar, my guess is gonna be in Etsy, things like that. The traffic volume, don't see as a huge thing. But it it it these big monolithic buildings just aren't a good look. I would like for us to if we're gonna continue to do it for economic reasons, spread them out, not concentrate them all in one area like they did in Tracy.

I'm not against the project. I recognize we have to move forward. I'm not a huge fan of these warehouses. I'm seeing so many of them going up all over the place, And I'm a little concerned about the rapid change in how we're doing things. If we're gonna change this rapidly to this, we're gonna change it equally rapidly to something else. And I can't remember who said it, but once it's built, it's built, and we're stuck with it. I don't want our future selves to regret the decisions we make today.

I don't have any questions. All my questions have have been answered, so thank you.

I'll just briefly add. I appreciate the focus on small tenants. I think, it's exciting to think that there could be 80 loading docks full of small business. And if that's the case, that there's trucks coming in and out, that means good things for the economy of Rancho Cordova. I also would note that the way the assembly bills are written about the wall is to shield those docks from the sensitive areas.

And that the way that building is positioned, Building 3, we're shielding those docks from Amazon and not the school. So I'm not too concerned about that either. You know? Although, it's important to be mindful of that. But so, yeah, supportive of this. You know, the colors is what it is. Not concerned about that either. So I appreciate the thoughtfulness. I appreciate your presence here tonight. I appreciate the discussion about all of this, too. So with that, would someone like to make a motion?

If I could, before the motion is made because we're making changes to the project, for the motion, if you could add the added height for the screen wall from eight to 10 to be, that way we could have that as a condition if the commission sees fit. And then also to reverse revisit the color scheme if we

Sounds like I'm the only one that has an issue. So if that's if we don't have to change that, if the commission doesn't feel that way.

Okay. If we could just add the the wall height to the to the motion, that'd be great.

And I'm willing to make a motion. Palmer, correct me if I don't get this quite the way you need it, but I'm willing to move this staff recommendation with the addition of the 10 foot CMU screen wall. Does that satisfy you? As a condition of approval. As a condition of approval.

Yeah. And I'll second that.

We have a motion by commissioner Frechette and a second by commissioner Hoon.

I'll take roll call. Commissioner Deborah Polly?

Yes.

Commissioner Frechette? Aye. Commissioner Hoon?

Aye.

Commissioner Raymonis absent. Commissioner Stoss? Aye. Vice chair Stevenson?

Aye.

And chair Molden? Yes. Vote, motion passes with a six o vote.

Thank you very much. Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you. You so much. Alright.

And that brings us to item eight. Commission comments, ideas, questions. We start this way and go around. Back it up.

Actually, I like, Hoon's comment about this project today about building big buildings down the line. How do we view them down the line after fifteen years? That's good. We have interpreting feature. I never thought in that direction. Next project, I'm gonna look into that that the way. Actually, it triggered me that, yes, it makes sense to think like that, and I like it. And one more thing I noticed is in January, a lot of people are getting flu. My friends got flu and their family, and they suffered for three weeks. I don't know. This time, the flu is too hard on people. So careful. Stay safe. That's all.

I'm gonna shock you. I have nothing to say.

Oh, glad to be here. I feel blessed to be around fellow commissioners, chair, and, nothing really to report. Just continuing on with business and taking care of the family and whatnot, so nothing, new to report for me. Thank you.

Well, I'm gonna echo that. I don't have a whole lot to report. It's that time of year where, we wind up doing a little bit of traveling for, conventions and stuff. I'm doing a lot of that over the next few weeks, and just got back from a family wedding out of state. So I do appreciate commissioner Hoon's comments on, you know, what what are we building and what is it gonna look like fifty years from now, I think that's words to the wise. Thank you.

I don't have anything today, so just enjoying the sunshine today.

Thanks. Agreed. Okay, well, I've always got an event to encourage people to participate in. And next Thursday, I want to make sure you spread the word that there is a volunteer match making event here at City Hall with volunteer opportunities. There'll be organizations here that have opportunities to get involved.

And while all of you are very involved in the community, spread the word that if someone's looking for an opportunity to volunteer, get involved with an organization, it's like a speed dating thing with nonprofits. So there will be Heartstoppers will be here, the Food Bank, the air show. A number of nonprofits and organizations will be here as you from five to 07:30 here at City Hall. So encourage your neighbors and friends to come check out ways to get involved and give back to their communities and find a way to contribute.

Once again, I have to compliment you on mentioning something I should have mentioned because the community council is the sponsoring organization of volunteer date night, and I'm sure I'm gonna hear about the fact I didn't mention it. So I take a look

at it. It's all credit. No. No. That's it. Alright. Director's report. You're up, Arlene.

Yes. Just a couple of things. Reminders about Planning Commissioners Academy. Please respond to Kelly on their email so she can make sure that you have all of the necessary reservations done, the hotel quickly booked up. So she'll be able to get that finalized and get you all your packets for when that date is closer.

And then the other thing I just want to plug in, the general plan third workshop is happening on February 26. It'll be here at City Hall. It starts at 05:30. Planning staff, we have, like, stacks of flyers and stickers. So if commissioners have suggestions on where we can leave them in the community and post them up, we're doing that the next couple of weeks, just going around the library, the youth center.

We're going go to a couple of coffee places and just try to get the word out. We've worked with the chamber and with CCC on trying to also get on their their email lists to let the community know we'd like to have a big turnout. It'll be about the land use alternatives for the general plan. So really trying to get into, like, the bones and the meat of, like, the what, you know, what is involved in the general plan update. So we'd really encourage the community to come. That would be February 26, and it'll be at 05:30 in the American River rooms. So and that's all I had here.

You. Mhmm. Costco.

Oh, great idea.

Everyone goes to Costco.

Just will they let you?

That's true. We'll have to ask them, so to do a little tabling there.

Good idea. Great. Well, with that, we'll adjourn our meeting at 06:32. Thanks, y'all.